THEY CHOSE ISIS: Who chose to bring them 'home'?

They left Australia to join one of the most brutal terrorist organisations in modern history. They watched, and in some cases supported beheadings, slavery, and mass murder. 

Now the Albanese government is rolling out the welcome mat. 

The women who left made a choice. Who's making the choices now, and are they making them for Australia or ISIS?

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:14

More curious conversations and a lot of courage in this next chat we're going to be having with Mike Holt, and he's our constitutional and lawful commentator who's going to be discussing with us this I don't know, I don't even have a word for it. The issue of the Isis brides coming, if I could say, home. Yes, they're Australian citizens, but we have no end of problems if we're going to welcome back people who are Australian citizens who wanted to see all manner of pain and suffering inflicted on Australians, and yet we are going to be also trying Ben Roberts Smith, who was defending our nation. It makes no sense. Mike, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Good morning, and thank you. Beautiful day in Queensland.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

It's not a bad day here, by the way, other than the fact that uh many of these ISIS brides and their children will be relocating here to Victoria. It's just been announced uh last night. So we're going to be watching this very closely. Mike, it's very concerning because we've had the and we've been discussing this on the show a number of times. We've had the issue of of ISIS and the Islam issues, we've had the Bondi massacre, we've got the uh anti-Semit Semitic uh laws that have come in, we've now had other laws that we've been talking about, uh ASIO. It's an it's a constant announcement of protectionism for Australians, and yet there's an open door for these people. Is that right? Do I have that narrative right?

SPEAKER_00 1:57

You do, but let me be blunt here. We're talking about the enemy. Now I've lived in Islamic countries since I was a young fellow. I I actually went to high school in Malaysia, which is an an Islamic country, um, and I've seen what Islam is all about. I've read the Quran. I got the Quran from the Islamic uh from the uh Pakistani embassy in Bangkok and I read it, and it is a disgusting document. And make no mistake, these people are not coming here to assimilate, they are coming here to attack us sni uh sneakily, they call it takir, which is lying, to fool the foreigners and uh sorry, the non-believers so that they can conquer us. That's the truth.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

All right, so if that's the truth, and I've been having a lot of conversations off-air with people regarding this. When Iran was in the seventies not in the position it is today, there were freedoms that were taking place, particularly, you know, you could there'd many photographs of of women's dress and and that very western looking environment. More Christianity, of course. And yet we say the Quran is one that has a particular message. That message wasn't being followed back in Iran in the seventies, so why wasn't there were there problems for the for the residents not following the Quran back then?

SPEAKER_00 3:22

I honestly couldn't comment on that, but I do know people, Iranian people and from um uh other Islamic countries that I've spoken to over the years, and they're all telling me basically the same story. Islam comes in and at first there's a few numbers and they're very nice and they look like they're trying to integrate, but in fact they don't. And then as their numbers grow to say about ten percent, then they start demanding demanding concessions for their religious beliefs. So for instance, halal and um FMG, female mit uh m uh genital FGM, sorry, for female genital mutilation, um you know, co uh cousin marriages, all sorts of things like this, right? And they impose this, then they start getting out on the streets and praying in public in mass numbers. This is all a show of strength to frighten the non-believers. So and and I can tell you one story that really stuck in my core was a Lebanese lady so she told me years ago when the trouble started in Lebanon, Lebanon was a Christian country, and the Christians and the the Islamics had been living side by side together for decades. And when the Islamic uh regime started, uh she lived in a small village and the local imam was ordered by those in the government to eliminate any non-believers. So he went to the next door neighbor and told them, You have you um being Muslims, you have to go next door and kill your neighbors uh because they're not Muslims and they won't convert. And that's exactly what they did. So these nice peaceful people who appeared to be so nice, all of a sudden, when they're ordered by their religion to do so, will rise up and kill you. That's that that's what happens.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Now, the UN has been working closely with Washington on this, and Washington has actually paved the way, despite the Australian government saying, Oh no, no, no, you know, we we weren't pursuing repatriation, you know, it's got nothing to do with us, we weren't doing so. The US State Department, the UN and the Red Cros Cross have been working hard to enable this to occur. So they're allegedly in uh Damascus Damascus at the moment, ready for reparation back to Australia. Why do you think DC is heavily involved in supporting this?

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Obama. No you only have to say that one word and you know everything.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Right. So the US State Department and Obama, what's the connection there?

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Well, Obama has quietly been um uh a ghost president, you might say, since um he was ousted. But he Biden was not really a president, he was just Obama's mouthpiece. And Obama is a c You're cutting out, Mike.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

You're cutting out. You're still there?

SPEAKER_00 6:41

Yeah, I'm here.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

I've got you back. Keep going.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Obama is a Muslim. He was born in in Kenya and my grandfather served with the British civil service in Kenya. My father was born there and uh they know w knew what was going on. And Obama we've seen I've seen his birth certificate. He was married uh Mary uh uh Satara, born in Kenya. Right? So he's not a true American, and how he became a president was just through Takia. That is the doctrine of lying in Islam.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Right. Now back to Victoria, back to Australia and the return of the ISIS brides and their children. Anthony Albanese, our Prime Minister, has said that the children themselves are victims of evil choices. At what age, because I understand that there are two adult children coming home with one of the ISIS brides, at what point do we decide if they can't if children can't access social media until the age of sixteen because they can't make sound choices? At what point do we suggest that listening to and being influenced by our parents is inappropriate? It's a bit of a mixed message here. Uh you know, parents are meant to be the primary educator and the one that is responsible for their children. And yet we're s we're protecting the ISIS brides from whatever it is that they were educating their children on. How does that work?

SPEAKER_00 8:22

It doesn't. Now I I've seen pictures of one of the ISIS brides husbands holding up seven heads and their child was holding one too. So you can't trust even the children because they are brainwashed from birth.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Well, we've seen brainwashing, haven't we, uh more locally? Oh with not just with this but with uh even looking at the gender issue and also the furries that we've heard about, where particularly girls decided that they wanted to identify as cats in schools. There's been all manner of this brainwashing. So Australia is well and truly aware of the ability for brainwashing to take place, which again back to the social media, is why uh allegedly this ban has occurred. This is making no sense whatsoever on any level.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

But that's what you expect from um Albo and and his mob. They're died in the wall communists, blind to reality, they're after ideology, imposing their ideology on Australia, and of course they don't care how they get it. And so they're using Islam and uh these ISIS brides to force us to do things that we don't want. And this is wrong. Now, there is a doctrine in law. When a law is shown to be inimical to the people, we have an absolute duty to disobey that law. And I'd say it's time for Australia to start doing that. You know, if you see a crime, you do a uh civ uh civilian um arrest. It's in the law. You have to do that. If you see a crime, it's your duty to arrest that person. How do you arrest somebody? You say the words. You don't have to lay a hand on them, but you say the words, you get their names and other details, and then if they won't march down to the uh police station with you, you go down to the police station and law um file a um an arrest warrant for them.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Well, that's something that uh citizens' arrests we've spoken about a number of times, and I know that you're very keen to see this happen more frequently. In the meantime, what do Australians need to be curious about so that they can have these courageous conversations about how we distinguish between citizens who are genuinely loyal and faithful to the country and those who are not, when we have what appears to be politicians who are not quite in favor of the Australian way of life.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Well, I think your your previous uh guest hit the nail on the head when he said that the government's um people or the parties collude now against the people. And therefore, we have no duty at all to obey these people, and they bring in all these new laws, like this new ASIO law, but before it was the anti-terrorism law, and all these laws we had good laws in place already to protect us. These are all just attempts to justify their continuing attacks on our rights and freedoms.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

It's I I I'm to be honest, Mike, I'm lost for words with the way in which any government can say they didn't know what was going on, or then they've got nothing to do with decisions being made. If that's the case, let's f let's for one moment accept that that is the truth, then surely that would mean this is a matter of international law taking place.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

I don't quite understand what you mean.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

So so the federal government has been saying that, oh no, no, we you know we're not involved in this decision, you know, we we haven't been party to the decisions being made. Yet they are responsible for all departments of the Commonwealth, therefore they are certainly in charge. So to say that they're not, is it feasible that there are orders from above being international law that is involved here?

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Quite possibly, yes. We know that the UN is corrupted, um and therefore we're under UN control now, have been since 1920. Um so it it's very possible that these people are telling our government what to do and how to do it. But of course, it all goes back to the World Economic Forum, doesn't it? They're the people really pulling the strings.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Well they are, and that's a conversation we're going to have to have next time. I really want to get into the the World Economic Forum. So if you could uh put that down in your notebook for next week, we'll have that conversation, Mike. Okay. Good. All right, great to have you on the show. We've run out of time, but uh for our listeners one last message about what they need to start thinking about and having conversations regarding this uh the ISIS bride situation.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Yes. Education, learn, read the Quran. There are a hundred and nineteen verses in there that command all Muslims to kill anyone who refuses to convert to Islam. That's the sad truth.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

It's a it's a truth that we need to to uh investigate and make sure that we are not spreading any inaccuracies, so it's good to have views coming across, and as you said, it's important for us to be educated and ensure that we are also uh truth seekers and can back any of those claims. Thanks for being on the show, Mike.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

My pleasure. Thank you for having me again.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Pleasure. Mike Holt, our constitution uh correspondent, if you will, and conversationalist regarding serious matters uh related to the ISIS Brides.