COVID FIXER CAUGHT: Fauci walks...his man takes the fall

Five years on, the COVID cover-up is finally cracking open and someone is going to pay for it. Fauci's right-hand man has been indicted. And the man at the top? He got pardoned before a single charge could be filed. Is the truth about Wuhan  finally catching up with the people who buried it?

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SPEAKER_01 0:14

You're listening to the Cheryl Lacey show where curiosity meets courage, and it's really really quite strange to think that six years ago we were struck with this big COVID pandemic. And albeit that we might think that it's been and gone, it certainly hasn't. There's been some really quite uh important outcomes that have happened in the United States recently at the beginning of this month, where the top advisor to the NIH, uh virologist David Morens, was indicted for pandemic misconduct. Now he's facing 50 years jail for the way in which he behaved and advised the face of COVID, Dr. Fauci. Now we may not know of David Morens, but we certainly all know of Dr. Fauci. He certainly was the worldwide face of COVID. To discuss this, we have our resident US correspondent Lawrence Rojek on the line. Lawrence, what has happened with this indictment?

SPEAKER_00 1:26

Well, we don't know much yet. Uh we do know that a top aide to Dr. Bauchy has been indicted for some kind of misconduct and cover-up with regard to COVID 19. And uh personally, uh I think it's long overdue that we find out the truth. Um I don't know if we ever will, but I believe that there is a uh uh a figurative nuclear bomb just waiting to be uncovered. Uh shall I go on?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Look, I I think that's a great way to to phrase it. You've got this uh something about to blow up with all of this, particularly given that Fauci's five year statute of limitations is ended. So we know that Biden essentially pardoned him. Uh the Statute of Limitations is concluded. Can he be indicted as well? Is there a way around that?

SPEAKER_00 2:36

I doubt it. A presidential pardon uh is pretty comprehensive, especially when it wasn't for any specific crime. Uh in his c in Douci's case, the pardon reads that uh he's pardoned for any and all actions that he took or may have taken, which in itself is like an indictment, because in the whole history of presidential pardons in the United States, nobody has ever gotten one for crimes that they were never charged with or um detailed. Uh let's compare it for a moment to uh the pardon that was given to former president Richard Nixon uh after he resigned and uh when uh the new president Gerald Ford was he gave Richard Nixon a pardon, but at that time there was plenty of potential crime uh that he could have been charged with, uh you know, related to the uh the conspiracy to wiretap uh the Democratic headquarters at the Watergate Hotel and the actions uh related to the cover-up and the destruction of evidence. So there weren't a whole lot of questions about what he was being pardoned for. Now in Dr. Bauchy's case, a large segment of the public hails him as a hero who saved lives.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

We have just lost Lawrence Rojak. I'll have to get back to him. I don't know what's happened there, so we will cut to a short break until I try and get him back. Our sincere apologies here. We have got Lawrence Rozjak back on the line. Our apologies for that, not quite sure what happens there occasionally in the studio. We do have that hiccup. And Lawrence Rojak, our resident US correspondent, discussing COVID and the most recent outcome of David Morens, the virologist who was advising Dr. Fauci and his indictment on the first of May. And we subsequently moved on to these protections, if you will, uh that are stopping Dr. Fauci from being indicted himself. Lawrence, you're back on air.

unknown 5:23

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

Good. Lawrence, it's it's really quite it is i one of those issues where, as you said, you know, there's not a lot that can be done. However, that may not be the case, something else could unfold. I wonder if history might have something to do with it. I understand that Dr. Fauci was also in involved in a lot of trials regarding the NIPA virus, and that was uh a planned trial in 2019 just before the COVID outbreak, and that was also to do with bats and animals, and more importantly, he was involved in a major trial with HIV AIDS back in the eighties.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

Yes. Um there is uh there are a lot of mysteries surrounding Dr. Fauci, and there have been uh accusations against him going back to uh the AIDS crisis of the nineteen eighties. Uh now it's important to, you know, as a lawyer, it's important for me to mention that nothing was ever proven. However, um uh allegations sometimes have some validity, and one of the things that Dr. Fauci was accused of, that apparently does have some some foundation, is that uh during during the nineteen eighties he uh tested uh potential AIDS vaccines or treatments on uh black and brown children in orphanages without any permission from anybody.

unknown 7:05

He essentially used these children as guinea pigs.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Uh nothing ever came of that, um, but uh some AIDS activists uh were pretty vocal uh about those accusations.

unknown 7:22

Okay, but that's 40 years ago.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

With regard to COVID, uh it is fairly well established that as uh director of the National Institutes of Health in the United States, Dr. COVID Dr. COVID, excuse me, Dr. Fauci and Flook there, uh Dr. Fauci paid for and authorized research at this lab in Wuhan into what's called gain of function tests on viruses. Uh gain of function means how can you alter um a virus or a bacterium uh to um do different things of whether it may be beneficial or not beneficial, uh other than what the what the germ originally does. Now i it it it's it's not hard to connect the dots between funding gain of function research on a virus at the Wuhan lab and the fact that this virus allegedly escaped from that same Wuhan lab and uh uh sparked the pandemic. Th these questions have never been publicly explored when in in any case involving a death, you would think that uh those dots would be connected uh by an investigation, and yet for some reason or other they never were.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

No, they weren't. It's uh they haven't been, and sorry, they haven't been, and so essentially what we've currently got is the President Trump going to China to talk to Xi Jinping about a number of issues, particularly uh what's going on in in Iran, and it was President Trump that said China, China, the virus escaped uh in China, and it's the China virus. And uh has China provided sufficient access or uh the necessary data uh for perhaps a an international investigation as opposed just to a US one, Lawrence? And might that be a conversation that the President's going to be having?

SPEAKER_00 9:58

Yeah, uh to my knowledge, uh China has been very uh tight-lipped about whatever happened at the Wuhan lab, which is not surprising. I mean, look what happened uh um uh the way uh the Soviet Union tried to cover up uh the nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl, um governments in general, but especially communist governments, are um very closed mouthed about anything that might embarrass their regimes. Uh if it were, and this is just a hypothetical, if it were to come out that the Chinese government covered up uh the uh the circumstances of the virus escaping from that lab, it would uh severely damage the uh reputation of the Chinese government among the Chinese people, and uh that government is just not going to allow that.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

No, they're not. Uh and well if we're talking about that and uh the two countries in discussions, we mustn't forget also that uh the UK was the very first uh country to introduce the vaccine or as it was called, the jab. And definitions are very important in law, Lawrence. I'm always curious and have always been curious as to why they called it the jab. Was that essentially possibly because the uh uh necessary research hadn't been done or because there was awareness of a leak right from the outset?

SPEAKER_00 11:45

In my personal opinion, the circumstances of the COVID vaccine or the jab are very suspicious. But let's start with the fact that um it's uh the the COVID so the jab is not a traditional vaccine. Uh a vaccine, by definition, is a weakened or dead version of a virus or a bacteria that is injected into the body in order to trigger an immune response. The the jab is not a vaccine, it is an MRNA altered version of the of the um the virus which is designed to change the body's immune system. So it does not work the way uh uh a a traditional vaccine works. Uh and it there are a lot of unconfirmed reports because they get suppressed, uh, which allege that what the COVID vaccine does to the body is although it it does focus on COVID-19, it weakens the human immune system to make it more susceptible to other types of uh viruses and bacteria, which is why um a significant number of people who get the jab uh get sick from other things. So there's a lot of unanswered questions that should have been the subject of a huge inquiry, uh, and yet they haven't given in.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

No, that's right. And we mustn't uh for our listeners, we mustn't uh keep away from them and what is important to learn, and that is that this mRNA that you speak about, Lawrence, and rightly so, it's an altered version uh which changes the body's immune system, was first discovered in 1961. So we've got a long history of all sorts of clinical trials taking place as you've suggested uh that perhaps it's possible the HIV was one of those that was done on children. Uh so experimentation has essentially been taking place for decades. Now I wonder if that in essence is what was also a concern that that knowledge would come out and that would also have major impact on the way in which uh this ongoing research where a lot of money and a lot of countries are involved would be compromised.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

There's so much to unpack with regard to the COVID pandemic that it it's hard to know where to start. But let me start here.

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Dr.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Fauci would not have received a pardon unless there were some serious crimes that he could have credibly been charged with. And I think that the public needs to know what those at least what the allegations would have been or could have been, because there is, in my personal opinion, uh a cover-up of world changing proportions here.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Oh, you couldn't say it better, Lawrence. Cover-ups of world changing proportions. And when we are dealing with the vulnerable, and you mentioned a moment ago these uh black and brown children who were guinea pigs, there are guinea pigs all around the world, and i that in itself is a if you're going to refer back to the UN, it's etc. Albeit that that's a whole other conversation, we know that uh it is an absolute breach of the human right to have ownership of our own property being our own body. So there's a lot more to unpack here, and I'm so sorry that we actually did lose you part way through this conversation, but a very important one. And one I want us to keep uh front of mind because as this unfolds with David Morens and uh Fauci, certainly more is going to happen, and I'm very keen to find out whether or not it does come up in conversation with President Trump. So thanks for being on the show.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Thank you. See you next week.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Okay, great, see you next week. Lawrence Rozhak, our resident correspondent, and our discussion on COVID, and we could essentially say the COVID cover-up, which is not such a cover-up after all, with virologist David Morrins being indicted. So I wonder what he might have to say and what impact that might be on the world as we know it, and COVID.