Making No Cents with Tom Sena
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Making No Cents with Tom Sena
The Secret Life of Sorority Girls
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Today’s guests on Making No Cents with Tom Sena are my lil pal, Isabella Burrell and Abi Heisinger, Anna Reiners and Tianna Wheatley. We chat about life in a modern day division 1 Midwest sorority.
Hi Tom. Hello, Letty. Have you guys ever been on a on a uh a podcast before? No. No, I have. Oh, excuse me. Okay, that's awesome. Um, let's see. Let me get first of all. Thank you guys so much for doing this. Of course.
SPEAKER_04Yes, of course. Anything for you?
SPEAKER_02Uh Iz is my bud.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02All right. You guys call her Bella though, don't you? Yeah. Bella. And I'm sorry. Is you you hate probably do you hate it when I call you?
SPEAKER_04No, I like when you use. You're the only person that does.
SPEAKER_02I was still hoping that's it. Like you were giving me a pass on that. Okay. All right. So let me get the other girls' names. What's uh let's go one at a time.
SPEAKER_04I'll start. Okay. I'm Abby.
SPEAKER_02A B B E Y?
SPEAKER_04A B I.
SPEAKER_02A B I'm just A B I. Of course, Abby. Next.
SPEAKER_04I'm Anna. A-N-N-A.
SPEAKER_02Right. He is on your horse. Um I already have you done this. All right. I'm sorry. It was your what's your name?
SPEAKER_03I'm Tiana. Uh Tiana. I'm sorry. Go on. Um P-I-A-N-N-A.
SPEAKER_02All right, cool. So are you guys? So where are you currently at? Our basement. In the sorority? Yes. Okay. Like you have a private room in there, you could close the door and everything.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh. Well, there's kind of a private. It's glass doors. Oh. You can see like out to the basement. We're in like one of the bigger rooms with like more like multiple tables, but there is like a smaller room that has just one, two, and then just like a main area.
SPEAKER_02Right on. So can girls come down or and see you guys in there?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Do they probably just assume you're like getting a like at a school thing, getting a lecture or something, or what?
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah. Yeah. You really only come down here if you like to do school or like we paint our banners down here, but other than that, you don't really come down here.
SPEAKER_02Right on. Oh, we'll get to painting banners, don't you worry? Don't you worry, Abby. All right. So I don't so I don't know if Izzy. I'm I assume she told you who I was.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_02Good. So we've we've we've got that covered. Nice to meet nice to meet you all.
SPEAKER_03Izzy, isn't this fun? I love it. I'm excited. This is so fun.
SPEAKER_02You're so sweet. I love this. Is why I knew this would be fun. All right. Um, so because like how long have I known you, is four years.
SPEAKER_04No, five.
SPEAKER_02Probably. I mean, like early, early. Huh? What? Six, seven? What were you doing?
SPEAKER_00I was at the table coming on this.
SPEAKER_02Right on. All right. So it's been a minute. I mean, we've known each other for a minute. Like you were like, and I feel like that was, I mean, and we'll get into some of this stuff because I'm an old man. So I want to like talk to you guys about your experience because right now in your life, things are so concentrated in regards to like every year is like such a huge step away from the previous year and onto your, you know, to a new year in your life. Wow, did you see that? Zoomed. I got a real interact. Oh, whoa. Okay. Anyway, um, I'm sorry, I'm not controlling that, but uh I'm using my iPad, so maybe it's doing that. I don't know why. Anyway, I see that. So I mean, it's like such huge changes, I mean, are happening in your guys' life right now. And that's that's part of why I wanted to talk to you guys. So that's the you know, my my next my next thing I was gonna talk about is just why are we doing this? So I thought um me and Izzy always have really fun conversations when she comes in. So just for the for listeners and viewers, FYI and this will be on YouTube and on uh podcasts everywhere you get podcasts. Oh, okay. Yeah, so you can do either. So yeah, I mean, thanks for cleaning up the place for me. So um we we have really I I love when Izzy comes in because well, because you guys know she's a sweetheart, but also because we have really good conversations just about life and about like uh I always just I'm and I'm entertained and um because I because I I love it. I always get a kick out of like what's going on in her life, you know, and she and so it's just these little these little glimpses of like it's I swear it's like a reality show for me, you know. Yeah, it is like I, you know, and we and then she's so sweet, she'll ask sometimes she asks genuine advice and stuff like that. And I feel like she actually hears me a little bit too. So, because I will always try to do my best to steer her in the right direction, you know, as far as like, you know, so if your parents are listening, I mean, trust me, you know, I I have their very best uh intentions in at heart. So uh anyway, so then I thought, you know what, let's do this, let's do a little podcast because I started doing these podcasts, and I like to talk to people from different walks of life, um, people that are like me that we could kind of compare and also people that are like nothing like me, so that I could like completely, you know, learn stuff and learn about their life and whatever. So that's that's a little bit more where you guys came in. This is like we just have such opposite lives right now. You know, I mean it just we're just miles apart. And I get a kick out of that. And I just really wanted to talk to you guys. And I think our viewers would be, you know, my listeners and viewers would be interested in that as well. So let's just give it a whirl, let's just kick it around. Um, you guys are living in because from what I can see, so Izzy and I, I became, we can't we became uh after I did her hair for you know a long time, um, we did uh uh we did a little uh video uh when I gave her extensions. And so I did a little uh like a before and after thing like that, and I wanted to post on Instagram. So we be we we got connected on Instagram and um and ever since then, and then I then we did another one a little bit more recently when we went lighter in her hair. So um and I always like you know, and she always is very sweet to she she you know puts a post about me too as well. So that's always sweet. But also, I mean, and I'll I'll admit in a you know, hopefully not too creepy of a way, but I mean I I catch your guys' or I catch Izzy's posts, you know, as as life goes on. And um, because I'm on Instagram a lot, probably more than anything else, just because it's just it's just the the doom scrolling, you know. Yeah, so I'm probably on that more than TikTok. I don't know if you guys are on, so we'll get to that. But I mean, so I catch little glimpses of your of your life just via uh Izzy's posts or whatever, and I'm just like, my God, they they have you guys are living in such a I mean, I I mean it is a bubble to a certain degree. I mean, and I just wonder like how aware of that are you that you guys are living it in such a concentrated moment in your lives? Um, because once you get out of college, I mean, and I'm sure you've heard this, and it was probably mentioned at every commencement speech we've ever heard too, you know. I mean, but you are going to scatter to the winds. I mean, the minute you guys graduate, it'll be like oof. Um, and you will make God, my Zoom is just going berserk. I mean, how how aware of that stuff are you guys? And do you guys talk about that amongst yourselves?
SPEAKER_04Um, I would say, like, as of now, like we're always like, oh, we like want to stay together, we want to keep in touch, but like we're also sophomores, so we haven't like had like the opportunities like presented to like us, so like we haven't faced like reality yet. But like her sister's a senior, my sister's also a senior, and like seeing how like half of her friends are going to Chicago, one's going to over to Boston, one's going to California, like all these different states. And it's like they're probably all fresh in your sophomore year in their sorority house. We're like, let's all live together, we'll just get an apartment, maybe we'll go back to Omaha. And it's like once reality hits, job opportunities and other opportunities aren't like a they're not like present now, but then like once we get there, they will be. And I think that that's when it will actually like hit us, and like we'll understand that like life does move on and we'll all go in different directions um sooner than later. I agree. I also think we see from freshman year, um, like my roommates, they were in different houses. And I know like they're roommates, so they've obviously stayed in touch. But with my roommates, even just last year, we were like, we're gonna stay in touch, we're gonna be great friends, hang out all the time. And I maybe have seen them like three times this entire year. So I kind of just think it's like we still keep in touch, it's not as much, but it's something where once you aren't physically together, it the communication is still there, but it definitely just takes a lot more effort from both parties to have that for relationships still. And I also think that it'll be harder for us because we are living together two, like two, maybe four years after this year, because we're all gonna get an apartment for next year. So I feel like that could be probably a little bit more scary if we all separate after senior year just because we have been together for so long.
SPEAKER_02Are all of you guys gonna get an apartment together uh next year? Oh, really? All four of you are? Oh wow, that's awesome. Um, did you have anything to say about that at all, Tiana?
SPEAKER_04Um, I honestly agree, but I feel like a huge part of it is kind of deming, like especially as we get older, learning what relationships are valuable to us and learning how to walk through life, like knowing that things are gonna change for a lot of people and we're gonna start prioritizing different things, but not really letting like our relationships with each other fade. And even if they do, like it's it's just a part of life and the love is always still there.
SPEAKER_02It is, and that's a great point. It is just a part of life, and it won't be the same forever, but you'll always remember this stuff. So have fun. I want to get into sorry life specifically, but I mean, like, for instance, what are your majors? Like, Anna, what's your major?
SPEAKER_04Um, I'm double majoring in sports media and broadcasting with a minor business.
SPEAKER_02Right on. Um, Abby, business administration, nothing fancy. Yeah, but it could be it could be anything and it could be fancy. Uh is how about you?
SPEAKER_04Uh, but nursing.
SPEAKER_02That's right. And piano.
SPEAKER_04And then I'm business law on the pre-law track.
SPEAKER_02Oh, business law. Right on. Well, so um those are pretty varied. I mean, as far as like you guys being so tied as you are, and you guys have completely different interests. Do you guys have a lot of classes together, or probably not?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I don't know anyone in like any of my classes. I'm with all guys. Like it's not gonna be all guys, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Really? I'm surprised. I mean, it seems like there's so many women in in like is it? Did you say a sports broadcast or just broadcast?
SPEAKER_04Sports media and then broadcasting, sports media and broadcasting. I mean, they're like the same thing, but yeah, I feel like there are some girls, but like they also have like this thing is called IPR, like advert advertisement and public relations. So like they kind of do a sports media nap together, but I did sports media broadcasting. So like so my processes are a little different. Well, I feel like the IPR is a lot more like social media, like yeah, uh like marketing fancy stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, gotcha. I'm thinking of um well, I mean, I I don't know, I just seems like users whenever you watch a game, professional games, it seems like it's almost becoming dominated by women's sportscasters anymore. At least maybe maybe it's just the fact that I'm just seeing so many more than I used to. But hopefully that's uh is that kind of what you want to do? Be a sports broadcaster.
SPEAKER_04I think it'd be so cool if I like worked for like the NFL one day or something and did that. I don't know like what like route I want to go if I do want to do like sideline broadcasting or if I want to like work behind the scenes to do like social media, but I'll figure that out soon.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like the next Aaron Andrews or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Very cool. All right, so let's sorority life. First of all, uh there too, it's just from my point of view. I mean, I think it probably for most people's when they look at it, especially if you have no, like obviously I have very little experience with sorority life. Um, what tell me, well, let's just start off by like, how do you pick a sorority? How did pledge how did like pledge week and all that stuff? I mean, tell me the the start of that. And like, is it is it as insane as what you see on in movies or what no?
SPEAKER_04It depends on school, but yeah, it definitely depends on where you go. It's definitely, I had a couple girls that I was friends with in high school at May Rush down in Alabama and Oklahoma, the big SEC schools, and that was really intense. It's definitely we don't have nearly as many chapter houses, so our open house is split into two days, and you're just with your groups that have been assigned. It's typically just on the floor you live in, and you go with them, it's very organized that you have a specific time down to the second because if you're even out by a couple seconds, like the sorority will get fined.
SPEAKER_02Um, and you're like And like in regards to what? Like what's timed?
SPEAKER_04Conversations, conversations, um so you can like an interview, basically. Basically, yeah, kind of yeah. So you you're in these lines, and then you go into the house, and a girl will pick you up at the door, and then you just talk with them. And the first two days it's very vague, very just like get to know you, and then after the second, the two open houses, you open your like cards the next day, and then it's you run to that house on the field. I was saying so like go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, everyone has like a very different rush experience. Like Bella and I were on the same floor, we were in totally different road camp groups, we didn't even know each other. Like Bella turned out to be my roommate, freshman year two, and like literally we didn't know each other. We met in AKO, she's like my first college friend, but then we've talked to other girls who are like my houses could have been like random, like A C A C D. And then I could have been like, I had like tridel, AKO. Like, are those your last two? No, those are one. Um, but like just everyone has a different rush experience. Some people only have one their last day. Like, some people could even get dropped after the first two days and have known houses. Like it's different for every individual. And so, like each chapter, specifically on this campus, and I feel like it's the same for a lot of others, is like they have specific requirements that you have to meet. Like a lot of houses will have to meet VA requirements. So after the first two days, if you already don't meet those GPA requirements, even if you love a house and even if they love you, they could drop you just because like their standards are a certain threshold. And if you don't meet that, then unfortunately sometimes it just doesn't work out. So it's definitely different for everybody. And it's really hard. I know there were a lot of girls after the first two days when you don't hear back from the houses you want, it's really sad. Um, because I mean, this is your first introduction to college and you kind of base your words a little bit off of what like your first week of what's happening, and like that obviously doesn't feel great if you get dropped.
SPEAKER_02Got it. So is this happening freshman year or is that sophomore year? That's all freshman year.
SPEAKER_04Right, we can do it any year though. So, like if you're a sophomore and you like transferred, you could still do it. There's really no grade requirement. I think it's just most common, like freshman year. Yeah, we then you move in a week before um our classes start, and then we move in like when you're in the sorority during actual rush week. That's when we rush the girls. But if you don't get a bid, I remember two of my roommates last year dropped out of just like formal recruitment, which is just a six-day process of going to houses. You have this thing called continuous open bidding, but we call it just cobbing. So you're able to reach out a lot of sororities. If they don't meet their numbers, they'll post and be like, oh, we're cobbing. So we have a couple girls in our house. One of my really good friends in AKO, she's a cob. So then she reached out to us and was like, Hey, I'm interested. And then girls will take her on a date and be like, Oh, I I really like you. Like, do you want to invite to our chapter? So there's always even if rush week, if rush week is hard, it's very draining socially, especially if that's your first time really away from home. Um, but there are different ways that you can still like be in a sorority other than just the formal recruitment process, which I think is super nice. And it's not a lot of people don't know about it. Um, so I wish that they did a better job at kind of advertising that, but it's a long.
SPEAKER_02So all right, now I I'm not looking for dirt, but give me something like uh for start for instance, like how what how what are you guys aware of in regards to like, you know, like I'm sure you probably talked to people that are already in this rority or maybe you have friends or sisters or whatever that have kind of gone through it. I mean, like, like what do you know what to wear? What do you know what to, you know, like are you like any is each house different? Or you just kind of wear like an interview outfit, or like what is that like?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so they'll give you like what a guideline, like before you enter. Yeah, can't help and give you like, oh, this is what you should wear. Like the first two days they give you a t-shirt, so you kind of just wear whatever bottoms, but then some chapters will go on their Instagrams and they'll post like outfit and spell like what we would wear these days and things like that. So then it kind of gives you a cue and so like I know we did that. Yeah, or even people go on pinch phrase, yeah. They look up oh what to wear on sisterhood, and then they'll give you like a whole campaign of all these photos of girls rushing. I had no clue. So they're like I had my oh yeah, no idea. I feel like this year or like last year and the year before they start doing the Instagram before I didn't know. I don't I don't think they did when we rush at all because my sister, I use my sister, but Wisconsin and Nebraska rushing so different. My sister, like, you want to wear like a Lululemon skirt, and then I'm seeing like people, they're like, No, you need to get like the super key, like mini skirt. And I'm like, Okay, I don't even know what to do. So I suppose like multiple options. I think it's crazy just how different, like again, my friends who go to school in the south in their suburbs compared to I think I mean rushing here is definitely a lot bigger of a deal than I thought it was, but it's not nearly as intense. But then I have a lot of friends who go to ASU and U of A, and the things that they wear when they rush, I was appalled, like so much kids. It was like so. My advice if you're gonna look up Rush Inspiration, make sure it's the same. Also, some schools, like I know in Arizona, they do the first couple of days on online. Yeah, so like you have to. I remember my friend going through recruitment, you have to take like a full video of yourself and be like, My name is so and so, I'm from this place. And so these girls are judging you like instantly based off of just what they're seeing on a video. And so it's like that's kind of a little bit different versus like the in-person experiences, too, where I feel like those are a lot more scripted and like it's easier for them to say no to you based off of just how you look to. Yeah, we work with online, yeah. But only all voted no. It's just yeah, not gonna work.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they they gave you the option of doing that much, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and we all voted no. They're really, really pushing hard for it. But I think it was just something that a lot of us were like, we won't be able to connect with people if we can't meet them in person because it kind of defeats the purpose of the first two days. It kind of goes back to what you were saying with like like our world is so like right now, I don't know, like condensed in a bubble. Because like we could literally, like, I could be like someone totally different and be like, I'm gonna act like super cool on this screen and I'm gonna like put on this face that's not even me. And then be like, this girl's so cool. She comes back after two days, comes to our philanthropy round, and like she's totally different. Yeah, and I think like honestly, like you want to show your authentic self. And I feel like you could retake that video as many times as you wanted, you can't show who you really are. Yeah, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02Well, to your point, you kind of want it's just like, well, do you want to have to try and pretend, you know, for four years like who you or do you want to ideally want to be yourself? Um so there is an element about there is an element on on looks to a certain degree, wouldn't you say? I mean, yeah, yeah. What so what can you talk about that? How does that work? I mean, do they is it is it based on is is there a look that they're kind of going for?
SPEAKER_04I definitely say some sororities are so stereotypical, like your top houses. I think a lot of them are a lot more critical or yeah, like criticized more on like kind of what you wear, how nice the things are, like how put together you look. But I think in our sorority specifically, we don't rate that, we don't judge on that. It's more just like their vibe. Like when we're like, okay, how's Ryan like to be click? But that definitely you have your stereotypical, I would say, in other houses, like they kind of all have a little bit more of a look or like for them.
SPEAKER_02Is there stuff that goes on, or are there unwritten rules that you guys are maybe like, I mean, and you probably can't answer this, but that you're not supposed to talk about. I mean, are there things like that?
SPEAKER_04See, I've heard about things in like even other states too, of like you have to leave the house. If you're leaving the house, you have to have like two of three things done, like your hair and your makeup, or like an outfit, a cute outfit on. But I mean, like with us, I've never really noticed anybody here having a follow that. I know within our chapter specifically, people I always I feel like we always say if you see us like Sunday through Wednesday, you don't know who we are.
SPEAKER_03If you see us like Thursday through Saturday, then I gotcha. I get it.
SPEAKER_04I will wear TJ if I brush my hair before going to your on days and you got your off days.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So let's talk a little bit, let's talk a little bit about that. Let's talk about some of your let's talk about your on days. What what would be a typical? I mean, like, is every weekend a specific party or a sorority event going on?
SPEAKER_04I would say freshman year, yeah. Usual year. I'll say like we have like they're called frostes, so those are like if you have for art parties. And I'll say freshman year every week, Thursday through Saturday, houses are thrown. Oh no, no. You would have Monday, you have Frat wedding. So it's like that we call them pinning. So if someone seniors have been dating for a while and it's with another brat, and that's quite the party. So Monday, you have pinnings.
SPEAKER_02Wait, wait, all right, hold on, hold on. Walk me through that again.
SPEAKER_04What is so a pinning, it's when two people have been dating uh for quite some time, and then when they're seniors, if the guy is in a frat and the girl's in a sorority, we have pins with like our symbols on them when they get initiated and you just swap pins and it's like a fake wedding.
SPEAKER_02Okay, and and that's a thing that the sorority participates in, like all the other ones.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. You do like speeches. Like if I was getting pinned, um, they could do speeches for me and tell like funny stories. Yeah, they're supposed to be funny and like a joke. So, like you would never say anything that said you're actually a wedding.
SPEAKER_01That would be pretty bad. But like a lot of like well, kind of kind of like a wedding toast.
SPEAKER_04So, like you know, and your friends will get up and they'll give you a lot of things to air now, or you're just like it'll like make your jaw drop. So then we're like, whoa. But right?
SPEAKER_02So and it and it just happens to be that it's like, well, you there's enough of these uh relationships that are going on that we've had what six this semester basically?
SPEAKER_04All in one. Yeah, six weddings this semester.
SPEAKER_02We had one this Monday, and then and there and these are senior couples that are like together, yeah, yeah. That just seems wild to me. That's like a a sanctioned event.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think those are some of the most fun nights I've ever seen. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So then it does it, so then is it like a reception after that? Is it signed up?
SPEAKER_04They'll a big party. Yeah, there's a big party, and then the upper classmen, usually those who are about 21 and then, they'll rent out a bar. So like they can go there, we just can't. But yeah, it's fun.
SPEAKER_00We have their kids done. Yeah. Um, all right.
SPEAKER_04So that's our Monday night, then Tuesday night. Bright night, Wednesday, morning, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, but then I feel like sophomore year is more like Thursday through Saturday, and then if you have pity like that. We don't, I mean, this year we've been hitting up the link stars a lot if there's not really anything going on. Like, I feel like now if you kind of have like the frass that like you have your friend groups in, like, I say like we're we're really close to like the sick guys and fight up, so like our front guy friends, like maybe we'll plan something to do with them. Other than that, we don't really have frostas anymore. So like we're not getting like dressed up to go like out to parties, we're going like to hang out with like our friends. Yeah. We're like going to like there's like two restaurants we like to go to that we can go out to.
SPEAKER_02So we're at So you're not you're not doing the sorority parties necessarily.
SPEAKER_04We're after like a weird age before everybody turns 21. And so it's like forest and year, it's all fun. Like you have a great time. And I feel like even the first semester of sophomore years like that. But then it's like usually everyone kind of splits into their own friend groups, everybody moves out of the frat and sorority houses. So then by then, you're kind of everyone's just all over the place. Like you're not really close anymore, you're not in a confined. And I think that that's kind of the age where like half of us are turning 21. So half of our eighth grade is going to the bars. Half of us are not turning 21, like me and Abby, until like the end of the school year. So then we're just kind of hanging out doing our whole thing until we can. Well then I won't be closer.
SPEAKER_02So how much? All right. So I don't know how much of this you you want to talk about on air. But I mean, like, like are I mean, do are fake IDs, are you got do you are those still a thing that you can even do anymore? Or yes, and get the thing.
SPEAKER_04I mean, like they're not good to have.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I've heard that.
SPEAKER_04I personally don't because like you can also get some that scan too. Uh that's just blue light. But if you want a good one, I've heard you need like the blue light, because that's they don't stand. They don't scan that bar, so they hold up a flashlight and look through one. Yeah. So it's like kind of speaking. If I were to have one, that's probably what I would try to get.
SPEAKER_02Right. If one were to do that, yeah. Yeah, I think. Um I got, I understand. Well, that's uh, I mean, you know, FYI people have been doing that forever. Um, and then wine Wednesday uh is like that happens maybe not at the bar, but just hanging out.
SPEAKER_04That would be fresh room. Yeah, that was like hanging out in like your dorm room in a bottle of what do you guys do that feel like no one actually drinks wine on wine? So no, of course not. No, some of the rats would get like um the wines with like the what are they in the box wine? Yeah, but getting in a box, so just a giant bag, and then you would just walk it around it, and then you have to slap it, get on one knee, and someone pour it into it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04It's a great time.
SPEAKER_02Personally, it's a lot to unpack there, but I'm not gonna get into that. What so you like maybe you do like hang it on an IV hook and just like wheel it around?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's that's hard.
SPEAKER_02There it is. Someone pick up one of those ivy things. All right. Um, well, so that's fun. That's that's I mean, that's kind of the college life that you that you would imagine. Um getting back to this pinning thing, I've I'm a freak, I'm a little freaked out by that. Um, because of this kind of fake marriage thing. How are are they always people? I mean, are there people that like do that and then like a week later you have you they break up or yeah, a lot of people is that like scandalous or anything?
SPEAKER_04Or honestly, we've had like a I don't know about us, but like we've had some where like maybe one of them like hypothetically cheated on one and then it's like, damn, you broke up, you already had your pinning. Like, yeah, like a lot of people watch like if you get penned in high school or if you get penned in college that the relationship's probably gonna fail.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, that that's that's a little bit about what I'm thinking. It's just like it's just it's a lot for that age to be like, you know, here we are, pretending to get married or whatever. Um, but I mean, how serious do people take? Do is it is it not taken very seriously?
SPEAKER_04It depends on the bad question. It's a celebration of like a relationship rather than like I think it's more like, oh my god, we've been dating for like most people have been dating like a year now for two years. Yeah, more like, oh, like let's just go out and drink and celebrate us. And so then all your friends can celebrate. It's never been like it's not like an emotional, like sentimental thing. Like it is a funny kind of yeah, I don't want to say tragedy, but it it's kind of yeah, yeah, it can get there. You dress nice, you dress nice, but you say it can say some tragic things. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And some during life to toasts.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. And sometimes the people will like say the most outlandish things that the person probably doesn't want anyone to know. Yeah. And they have no it's one of those things where it's kind of like your whole entire business is getting aired out to literally your entire sorority and it's their entire friend.
SPEAKER_02And it's like so it's like so you don't have to worry, so it's not like you're it's not like your parents are there or family or anything like that. So it's like so so you could kind of you could go pretty hard on some of that stuff.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I get it. And so probably people probably take advantage of that and be like, oh, I got some shit. I wouldn't talk about that. Yeah. All right. So if you guys were to talk about Izzy right now, what no, I was kidding.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I was kidding.
SPEAKER_02I mean, let's I mean, just for instance, let's hear some dirt on, let's hear some. No, I wouldn't, I'm kidding, is I wouldn't do that to you. Um, so how are your so you you guys mentioned that GPA had something to do with even getting in the sorority. Is that so that's your high school GPA that they're looking at? Yeah. Okay, so and then how are you guys doing? How are you guys all doing right now? GPA works.
SPEAKER_04I'm yeah, good.
SPEAKER_02Because I know I yeah, I know Iz is doing good. At least that's what she tells me.
SPEAKER_04So I am, I think she's doing good. I am doing very well. I think freshman year is really when you kind of see it all take a hit at first because that's when you're trying to figure it out a lot. And I know we've seen a lot with like especially girls from out of state, like you get homesick, you're trying to figure out how to do life on your own now. So, like that's honestly when most people see like the biggest decline in like grades and things like that. But like in almost every sorority here, we have ways to keep you in check. So, like we have a minimum threshold once you get in. You have to make sure you stay above that while you're in it, otherwise we'll place you on like things and yeah. Like on a probation thing or yeah, it's just ways to kind of help you like get your GPA back up and are is there anyone that like that like tanks and gets booted or what?
SPEAKER_02Does the government far or not?
SPEAKER_04Like a support system, so yeah, because like we have like our um, I don't even know what's called, like academic personal exec, and like she's there to like help you and make sure like you stay on track. It's more just like a big support system for people because like other like we're not gonna be like, oh my god, you got a 1.0 this semester, you're out. Like it's more like we want to see you like your grades improve over the few years. There might be punishments, but it's not booting. Yeah, it'll just be you're required to go to a study date once a week. You have to send in your grades throughout the semester or so nothing too intense, but I definitely know some of the houses are on the higher ends, like they require one of them requires at least a 3.75 for their minimum GPA. We don't, but some of the houses like they'll find you for bad grades. It quite honestly, every sorority is really different and super interesting. Yeah, and you don't really know those rules until like because it's in the sorority. I don't think there's a single sorority in the country that doesn't at least have some sort of academic check that you have to like make sure you're doing because you can't just join and then not go to school. And that's the purpose.
SPEAKER_02Do you guys think uh oh your guys are zooming now?
SPEAKER_04Um, do you guys think why is it mean we put this out?
SPEAKER_02Finally, it's like this is mine going in and out like crazy. Um, is do you feel like sororities do you feel like living in a sorority helps you stay motivated, helps your keep your grades up a little bit, or is it honestly for me, yes?
SPEAKER_04I think it's different for other people. I mean, like I always told myself like my biggest like thing was like also with my parents, like I'm lucky enough that they pay my dues, but I was like, I need to like because they're doing that, I want to like do well in school, like prove them that like I'm here like to learn, but also be with my friends. So I always told myself like I don't want to be on academic probation, like that's one of my main goals as being in one of the sororities, but I think it also differs for a lot of other people, but that was my thing.
SPEAKER_02That's your experience. And I felt like you were alone on that from the reactions that I saw from everybody else.
SPEAKER_04They're like, I don't know if it helps.
SPEAKER_02Does it make it harder?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I would certainly there are 50 girls living in this house. It's just constantly constantly loud. And I think it's easy to also be like, oh, we're gonna go do this today, like, and then okay, let's just go do that instead. And so it's easy for things to get pushed aside, and I think it's a lot harder too, where it's like sometimes, especially in college, like I feel like it was this way in high school, but I felt like my TPA mattered a lot in high school. But like as you're growing up and becoming an adult and getting through things, like it's kind of hard noticing how like that starts to change a little bit, where it's like now I'm going through real life things, and like there are other things affecting my life a lot and other situations. Right. And now you have jobs and things like that. So it's like it's really harder too, I feel like to maintain that balance too.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes yeah, but you're going to law school, girl. All right, we'll see.
SPEAKER_04Maybe maybe maybe I think it also depends on everyone's major. Like for me, I don't know. Uh, the only test I take laminate next time I start in check when I that's like gonna be my only test. However, like Bella has anatomy tests. Yeah, I edit, so I'm like super, like I'm in like video production, audio production. So I'm editing videos and like audio sequences like all week. And I think like for me, like I love doing it. Like, I personally hate the digital learning center. That's why I chose my major, so I didn't have to take tests. So, like, I love what I do for my school work, but like for Bella, like she's gonna love what she does. Yeah, who wants to take an anatomy test? So I've had to take so many tests these past two years, and like actually I had to like study for these tests. So, like I feel like I've had it like hard for me, but like now this time it's a bit laid back just because I'm practically like done with all my pre-reqs. I mean with my easy ones now, like I'm in two English classes, and so I just have to write papers.
SPEAKER_02So let me see what else. Okay, so you have 50 girls there, you said.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02How like how many floors is your house? How big is that house? Four. Oh, do they all live there or just the the freshmen don't live there, right?
SPEAKER_04The 50 girls is like the live-ins and then certain people on exact. So usually you have to live in sophomore year because you have to live in at least one year to be considered like uh when you graduate an alumni. Otherwise, it kind of if you don't live in, you technically have to draw because like the requirements. Yeah, you don't meet the requirements of being like an alpha child nine. It's for any chapter, I believe. So then you would have to just, I don't know, draw.
SPEAKER_01So within all right, so that's I mean, so that's a lot of that's a lot of people living together.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_02Um, what I mean, talk about dirt. I mean, like what I mean, I know you don't want to burn any bridges here, but I mean, you know, what like clicks, grudges, how does that stuff all play out in in such a close environment when you gotta, I mean, you know, when you got, you know, you're they're gonna be there next week too. I mean, so like that, you know, I mean, how does that work? I honestly guys have some stories.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I feel like with our story, especially people are really good about staying up to like people's faces. There's like I've heard for like in other chapters or something, people like kind of like they're like more like text around your back, kind of just being like shady like that. But I definitely honestly are those my glasses, no, there's no way have no sort of like I feel like um, especially in ours, like everyone's super close and like they at least respect each other enough to have something to say. Like, I know, like whatever, I don't care in my experience. Like, if I once I was like, hey, like this girl, like, do we have a problem? Like, I don't like I don't have a problem with you. I just heard something you said about me. We like had a conversation in person, solved it five minutes later. We hang out every weekend.
SPEAKER_02Like, well, that's a good example. I mean, that and that's great. I appreciate I mean, I'm that's that's the that's the adult way to do it. But I mean, my God, with so many people, there must be like a lot, and I, you know, I'm not just taking for dirt, but I mean there there must be some challenges in regards to that, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think like has there been any like any huge, like, oh my god, there was a I mean, any of that kind of stuff?
SPEAKER_04No, really. Yeah, I think I think that like biggest, well, I feel like it's not that big of a surprise is seeing how much people still live very much of like high school. Yeah, like the very petty drama, like things like that. And it's very interesting to see how some people never really grow up from that. Um, especially like growing out of like those mean girl phases and things like that, where it's like at this point, it's like we're all adults now. Learn how to communicate your feelings without being like, I don't know, like shady about stuff. So I think that's kind of the hard thing about like living with so many girls and that obviously, like, um, I don't know, I feel like it could be a lot sometimes. You can tell friendships change so much. That's yeah, it's not what changed what changes so much? Friendships. It is the most like I came into this school year. I wasn't really friends with them like until this school year, but I didn't have like I would say the most stable group of friends, and then I came here thinking nothing would change, but living in the house, I don't think like every friend group is different, every click is different, every like people will just stop showing up to the house. You won't ever see their face, like it is quite honestly. I was like appalled about how much changes living in, what's friendship? Girls who have been friends their whole lives now, like they they're not rooming together next year, they don't like each other. Yeah. So I living in, I think, kind of brings out the best and the worst of people. You see, like everyone's colors, it seems like just because you are with them every day. Yeah, but I also feel like, yeah, living with people also like that's kind of like an intimate space too. Like living alone, you don't work your own time. You live in shoeboxes, yeah. You live in shoeboxes and times, and like I'm one of those people that say in the mornings, especially when I'm like really tired, get out of bed. I don't love talking to a bunch of people in the morning. So it can be very challenging when you wake up at 7 a.m., hey, how's your day? And then you have like 15 people saying hi to you and having all these conversations. And I'm just like, where the where are you going? Yeah, and it's like the question is what are you doing? Where are you going? And it almost makes you feel like you're still living with your parents again. You're secondary 24-7.
SPEAKER_02No, I ain't here, yeah. Just to just to be asked, but just like, yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_04I get it the second a boy comes into your life, I swear more people know about your actual relationship and what's going on than you yourself actually know what's going on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, okay, great. That great segue, because I was gonna start to ask about that. Now, so you got 50 girls living on the bottom. I mean, now throw a guy or you know, guys into that mix. I mean, how does I mean how does that not go sideways? Like, how does that work out? Like having guys come into the mix, and like you said, everyone else kind of knows your business. There's there's some is there, you know, you get into jealousies, you get into anything like that, or like, I mean, you know, you name it.
SPEAKER_04I mean I think it seems like it is definitely dependent on it's dependent on any friend group here, really. But I feel like we've definitely seen some things go south with between some people when it comes to guys too. But it's yeah, really just kind of just out of boot. I never do it. I I thought it was fine. I don't know. Honestly, I wouldn't try to go. Oh, no, that's why I said some people, even though I feel like just I have not heard one word just I mean more so like girls hooking up with other girls' ex-boyfriends. Like that is more so what it's like. Well, right. I don't know. For me, I've always been a person where it's like any of my friends' guys are off limits. So then seeing other girls completely do the opposite, and like I think it's harder in a sorority because we pretty much deem ourselves like we are a sisterhood, like we are one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and and I would imagine, you know, between you four, I'm not talking about but Abby spell.
SPEAKER_04There uh there was just this one scandal. This girl was dating a guy on and off for a while, and then two years, I think two or three years, yeah. And then this other girl uh came in and started after they broke up, started hanging out with him behind her back, and then she said some really neat things about his ex, but she was the one in the wrong and she posted it, so everyone saw it. Yeah, and so that was I think a very fast way to just like a lot of people. I think if anything, just lost respect for her. Um but it was a lot of people did really I mean it wasn't our business, we all stayed out of it, but I definitely think people kind of if anything, it's your reputation that you kind of just lose.
SPEAKER_02Like sure. Well, that's it. I mean, you've got social media. I mean, and I know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna sound like an old guy here, but I mean, you know, you can't you got that social media, yeah. I mean, I but I mean I mean that's a real thing, and there's you know, between relationships and other I mean, credit to you guys, you know, for not having like you know a bunch of like, oh my god, it's awful, dude, you know, clicking off a bunch of million horrible stories. But I mean, I mean, I I assume it has to go on. I mean, that would be it would be very hard. I mean, that goes on in that goes on in real life once you get out too. I mean, trust me.
SPEAKER_04I think you've realized, like, especially like I'll just take like, and I'm not taking side, but like the girl who posted the story, I think she probably thought like she had a super close in a private story, had this super close group of friends. This is never gonna get get out. This me calling this girl a horrible name is never gonna get out. Fast forward, one of her good friends threw her under the bus, and then it's like because it's like I honestly do the same thing. I like you did you did it to yourself. You slept with that girl's ex. However, I think you also have to think about you're the only person who's for yourself. Everyone else is kind of against you. I mean, obviously your friends are there for you and all that, but you never know. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, it always gets up. It's just like you know the story, it's just like, all right, don't tell anyone, and then they say the same thing to another person.
SPEAKER_03Okay, you can't tell anyone, but like it's also how things get twisted too.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think, and I think the hardest part about growing up too is learning how many people lack accountability and being able to say, Hey, I messed up, I shouldn't have done that, like, and just being able to like construct that and apologize. I mean, it is a hard thing to do, but still I no hard lessons for sure.
SPEAKER_02And it will go on in, you know, when you go to your work, that'll the same stuff will, you know, you know, that's just humans, people just being humans. But like, is there like you mentioned this girl that like I don't want to keep harping on this this girl, whoever it is, but um uh but for instance, is there like this unwritten code where like you know, you someone broke up with a guy, no one else knew this guy. Is there a time frame where tonight like, or is it just like he's off limits to anyone that you know? I mean, which is pretty that's kind of like life too.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think it's honestly comes down to how much you respect the people around you. I think at the end of the day, like personally would never like like if a girl broke up with their boyfriend, I personally would be like, I'm never gonna give like that is like that was your relationship. I'm written code. Like I'll acquaintances with you, we might not be best friends, however, I respect you enough to not do that. And I think like some people don't really think about that. Also, alcohol plays a big part. Your brain sometimes goes a little delusional and shit happens, but I think at the end of the day, it's also how you come back from those situations. And if you don't come back and you don't apologize, yeah, that just says who you are as a person. Yeah, and I think like also too, it's a lot different, which is what we were saying in the first place when all of this happened. If you were gonna go to her, like, for example, hey Bella, I'm sorry. Like, I really like this guy. I know you guys dated previously. Like, it's life, I get it. Like, you're so the world is so small. People are bound to date, especially if you knew they dated friends like in college. People are about that's bound to happen, but at least having the decency, especially when it was fresh, especially when we're in the same grade, in the same sorority, to have the decency to just say that and be like, hey, I know this stuff's back. You really like him. I hope like you're okay with that, blah, blah, blah. And I also depend think it depends on the kind of guy he is, which I think was the biggest case in his scenario, which yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right, right. Yeah. And the reason why they they broke up in the first place and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, for sure. And you're right. I mean, that would be the way to do it. Be transparent about it, be like, hey. Um, but again, yeah, that's the kind of I mean, that's those are hard lessons that you're learning. It's probably maybe, you know, it's concentrated because you do have so many people all together. But sounds like you guys are navigating it pretty, pretty well. I mean, I'm impressed. How does the sorority, how does I guess Greek life in general, what would you what would be your assessment or your take on how do they handle gender fluidity or just even LGBTQ? I mean, am I I mean how how how do you guys, what do you guys, what's your guys' impression?
SPEAKER_04I think everyone has a place for someone, like no matter what house, I think you'll be accepted no matter what. I know in AKIO, we accept everyone for who they are. I also know that like if like they weren't really looking for a sorority, there are like different fraternities and sororities that do have like um options like that are more like maybe I don't know if we have one, but there might be an LGBTQ. Like, there's classic like maybe sororities. Like I know we have like some like um Catholic fraternities and sororities where like they can come together and they have like their faith together. And I think like you'll always find your place no matter where you are. I also think it depends on the school because I have a friend who is a part of the LGBTQ community, and he is in a FRAP in Iowa, but it's also like it depends on your region and obviously the area, because in some places people don't like hold that same sort of like acceptance as they would in other places, especially based off of how other people grew up, which is like I feel like here I don't it hasn't really been a very common thing that I've seen within like Greek life within itself, but I don't know why it couldn't be. Yeah. I think I'm from Colorado, and so I have a lot of friends that go to Steve Boulder or CSU, and I think it's a lot more accepted up there. You'll find a couple members of the LGBTQ and any sorority or fraternity that you go to. Um, and I think a lot of that also has to do with the like politics and just the like demographics in Colorado uh compared to here, and I think that's played a big part into it. Um paternities here I honestly haven't really heard of. I just it it's not common, but I don't necessarily I don't think people are against it. I know sororities, I but there's a couple girls in our house who have heard of LG Mates and Q, and no one no one minds, like no one cares. Um so I I quite honestly I I just don't really think people like I don't really think it bothers people that much, but it also not really that common on Greek Row itself.
SPEAKER_02I mean, and like you said, is that probably is that maybe more of a product of just like Lincoln as opposed to Yeah, it's I think it's just the little like the location.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it definitely depends on your region because I mean, like I said, I was not very far away, and I feel like Iowa and Nebraska can seem pretty similar, but it seems like sometimes they may be a little bit more accepting. It just depends on the region, I think, too.
SPEAKER_02So do you see anyone? Is there anybody have you ever heard of anybody or anyone like trying to make a change in regards to that? Or is that anything that you've seen? Uh like is there uh any kind of like you mentioned there's clubs and different things like that on the on the campus that may not be part of the sorority, but is it I mean, is there is there has there been any kind of a push in regards to being more inclusive in regards to that at all? Or have you not noticed that?
SPEAKER_04I haven't heard it. I honestly think like I mean, like there'll be like flyers up in the union, like there's like you can go like on the UNL website and you can see like all the different clubs and like how like everyone's like supported here, but I don't think it's ever been like I don't think well plus in your different colleges, you get like different weekly newsletters, and I know like mine, like I haven't really received anything like that. So I think it's honestly probably just like if you see around the union and like people like that. But yeah, I think when it comes to Greek wise like that, I don't know, it doesn't feel like sometimes at least here that is a very open space. At least I haven't heard about anybody trying to make that change and make that inclusion. Like it hasn't really ever been anything that's I feel like has been discussed within Greek wise here. Also, I think with um there's been a lot of budget cuts at our school recently, and a lot of programs have been cut. And I think a lot of people are requising more. If there has been anything, it's been more for like, hey, we want to support like these, we want to support our funding or the programs that are getting are getting cut. So I think definitely one day it can be a bigger discussion. But I think at the moment, um, there's other things going on in other programs that have just been brought more attention in.
SPEAKER_02Right on. Well, I mean, maybe. that's you know I I I guess it's a little surprising just to hear that there hasn't been uh that that it that hasn't been a a bigger discussion and not necessarily not you know necessarily with any fault of anybody then but I'm I'm just surprised that someone hasn't been like pushing that uh narrat you know that narrative in regards to inclusivity or whatever just because you see it just because you see it in all other walks of life you know yeah you know but maybe that's something that's up and coming and that'll maybe that's something that'll come to you know I can see that happening like Pan Hell or someone that gets in charge like Pan Hell is like head at all Greek life and like if someone goes into there and is like trying to push very hard I think it could be something. So how much of that, I mean and that and everything else not just that certainly but just how much of that of of Greek life do you feel is kind of um controlled to a certain amount by legacy donors all that kind of thing is do you feel like do you feel that do you feel like there is some control in regards to that?
SPEAKER_04I think legacy I definitely at UNL is not that big of a thing. My mom was a cap alpha theta I got dropped by cap alpha theta like I'm like and I'm a legacy technically like I don't I think like legacies were such a big thing back in like the 90s and like 80s and like it was so big. Like I'm technically a cap of legacy here too got dropped by them like you just find your house wherever like I mean like I think like donors are a big thing. Like I know some people who are big donors and help like renovate our house and all that I feel like that's kind of more of a bigger thing rather than legacies like we need the money rather than like the girls who like parents are like so involved and like and I feel like that's been a bigger thing with fraternities I noticed is that legacies and donors are way bigger when it comes to them because if anything they need more of the funding and like I know guys who are like sixth generation legacies in a craft and like you automatically are just giving a bid to the craft with your legacy. And I feel like here it's a little different really with sororities it's really a lot based on just like the person that you walk into the house being and how they like interpret that. Cause also you could still be a legacy and like in a set we dropped from the house. And well we dropped after COVID we handheld they dropped the legacy rule so what was a pinning on that is it like a I know if it's I don't I'm not sure how it's very I think it should follow your voice but I don't know. Oh back again. But I know after COVID they dropped the rule wearing four legacies um so they they don't even know like when I rush a girl I would have no idea that she's a legacy and then she'll be like oh my mom was in the sorority and I was like oh like that's great. Yeah but I we have no idea um unless they tell you so don't understand you're not feeling pressure from anyone to be like oh well we let her yeah my sister if you have a a sister in the house or a cousin it definitely helps my older sister uh we're in the same sorority and that definitely helped me out a little bit um coming in is she there she is yeah oh that's cool yeah so I siblings definitely help but if it's not a sibling it honestly doesn't matter yeah yeah so when uh like is there any I don't even know how they operate is there a board or something is there some governing uh board specific to your house or is it just is it just for all of the well we have panhill panhill runs like every head sorority yeah but then each chapter has their headquarters and then national nationals and inside your chapter you have an executive board so like your executive board like the president some chapters do like president vice president it depends some a lot like we don't do a vice president technically are those uh people that are in in the priority currently yeah okay but you don't you guys you don't have that or you do we do too it could be all grades you just for like some positions that are like higher up you have to be on exec for one year like if presidency like yeah yeah how big of a deal is that like the I mean the hierarchy of that is that is that play into your I mean Mike Biggs the president and I don't I honestly don't even treat her like she is the president yeah like it it kind of just depends like I mean freshmen are probably scared of her and they're like oh my god the president but honestly she just like a year ago she was just us yeah like right right right and I think even when it comes to like um the meetings that we have like with our executive board it's very like chill like you don't really notice a hierarchy and like obviously some chapters may do it differently. I know during our exec meetings we all sit at a table together and just so it's pretty much you go like position by position and kind of just give an overview of like what's going on and that's pretty much it.
SPEAKER_01I gotcha.
SPEAKER_04Do you guys get called out like if you get in trouble to go to the board or like yeah yeah you usually have to do something like pretty like not messed up but something like it should break wrong something like you kind of need to be told like that's not okay. Yeah. And so our we call that our CR standards board and so that's a different from our executive board too. So standards board is members some members can be elected and some of them are on um the board based on like your position in the chapter starting in my position I have to be on like the standards board but that just like with things like that happen usually it's like a we just try to figure out what happened and like where to go from there. Because sometimes things could be big misunderstandings too.
SPEAKER_02Right right I get it um so you guys never you guys have never been not called up to the I know surprisingly I have not double double secret probation or anything you're all good you're all good girls you're all upstanding young women.
SPEAKER_04Honestly half the time it's just like you have to explain yourself and it's just kind of like yeah move on. Yeah my thing is just don't be stupid and don't get caught doing it and you're fine like it's that's really good advice that we're gonna don't get caught don't get it there's not a single thing that happens and that's the thing that I will say about Greek life is things spread like it's like it's right around why like we all live right next door to each other. Yeah and we all have group chats and it's like the chapters to chapters so like I know like second things happen we know about it right away. I'm not I'm going to be completely honest. It's just sometimes you do pick and choose your battles of like man this isn't really worth the conversation but usually especially when it's big enough to cause a crowd of people talking about it we usually know about it right afraid. Well in the is that tough having everyone know your minutes I mean yeah well and there's this thing like yeah and yeah anyone can it's like but it's synonymous yeah anonymous if everyone has it post anything on it images chat and then people can like it and it's like so all of it is all of it's anonymous whether you like it or comment on it. It's all yeah all anonymous if you like it if you comment all of it if you post it. But if it's like you post something really bad like it does get report it does get you can report it and it does it does get traced back to like the cops like let's just say something really bad got posted or something like there's we could know who to actually get it but like it is anonymous like I could post about Abby right now and then like you could think it's someone like random in like a different sorority but it's well how okay so how do you oh so this is an app just as a public app right don't don't worry we're not gonna here we're gonna I'm gonna pull it up on the screen here let's no I'm just um banned I've banned on four phone numbers it's not I've never posted bad things okay so we went on like a feature app and like it was funny like I was like AI generating like photos of like some of the guys we were on and I posted them on Yik Yak like they knew I was doing it but like you can report it in the amount of times you get reported you get banned so I got so like I then was like no I was like hold on can I use your phone really quick got that phone number in so like banned but it's more just like because I got reported wasn't because I was supposed to think that people didn't know I was posting but like is this an app that you just downloaded okay so like how do you keep how do you know that it's just you got like your every college I'll show you what it was okay so is it by college or by school yeah and you can join the app and then you basically go to my school so that it'll populate by like everything that is being said like currently right now I think it's on help. So this is what's trending right now. So we have like a guy holding a rifle in our Episode and like that's a big trending and then our UNL alert send us like so like just actually one of the first things I see is is anyone going to the performative mail contest tomorrow at the union? So it's like sometimes it's really stupid. Yeah but I have noticed that Greek life takes a big hit on it a lot of the time from people that aren't it and so it's not just Greek it's it's every funny so I mean someone posted so we have these really cute sets they're really cute. I thought they were me on the red ones someone the other day posted on this app about how we all look like tampons walking around.
SPEAKER_02All right okay okay so you said sets you mean like so you guys I was gonna ask this um I think that was no um I don't think I noticed that I was just wearing that I did too I did too and then I remember so no but you so do you guys get outfits you like I was wondering that because it seemed like you guys had matching outfits in some of your is this posts and how and does that how does that get decided we have a person that makes a merch merch chair so they they make the merch.
SPEAKER_04So you can get elected to be on it and so we'll do like a drop of each semester there's like a spring and a winter drop and those are usually sets but then the same person also makes our shirts for basically every that we have so like any merchandise we need for like formals or uh what like recruitment they make all those shirts and we just are pretty much giving together like a bunch of outfits that they make like t-shirts, tank tops and then we just have to like accessorize with different shorts and jeans and whatever sounds a little crazy when you think about it. But it gets expensive though like something like $50 I bet. So do you have to pay for each of those you don't have a choice. You got one you have to have a choice unless you if it's winter like they come up with a set you have to buy it. I mean that's the deal for so for rush week and work week like our bid day shirts and our philanthropy shirts those are mandatory like we have to get those they're charging us but like she's wearing our mom's mom chicken sweat didn't have to buy that this is I think our fall line this was it came late so we didn't have to pay for these right but like sometimes that happens but like if it's like our winter or fall or spring work you can you sign up you sign up you can size it and then you'll get it but those are the only two like auctional sign ups you ever really have the rest of it you don't really have a choice. You get sent to size otherwise if you don't put in your size you're automatically given one. So yeah.
SPEAKER_02So like you're like you're like going out like your little hottie girl outfits all that stuff is that from is that also part of that sorority stuff or is that just the number one cardinal rule a Greek light in general this is a US national thing.
SPEAKER_04You cannot drink in letters like you it is the number one you can't do it. I I got I I got you but yeah in public if you went out in public or like anybody you know went out wear your letters and say they got arrested now all of a sudden someone's posting a photo of you in handcuffs with your letters on and everyone's like well we know who that is um right but just like more of a precautionary thing. But yeah usually the outfits we wear going out are just so fun to yeah you just buy them yourself.
SPEAKER_02So on that yik yak is there is that am I saying that right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah yik yak yik yak is there can you post people's faces or you're or is that like yeah the only thing you can't do is names right you can't post people's names otherwise that will actually get you like banned but you can post faces? Yeah yes in a way I mean I would say um from well actually personal experience because I'm banned because I did that it's more like it it's people report those sooner like obviously like I wouldn't go post a photo of Bella and just be like ha ha ha she's a loser like you know like that's so mean like that's right there like they would report it as like cyber bullying like that's me.
SPEAKER_02Well I don't know like I'm not even that like unlike both like if like if that happened that'd be reported like cyber bullying taking out like right right right so you can't say just oh but I mean I'm is there a lot of like I don't know I mean you could post a picture of somebody and kind of not be so blatant like you know Bella's a loser.
SPEAKER_04You could be like you know uh I don't know like a little shady or whatever you could probably oh you could be no you could be like TW and a Kyo is like you know like bird people would do like they're like a bird like initials but yeah Keanu Be but do TW. So then they'll drop pretty much like people will know who you are because they'll drop like roar and then most people the thing about like Lincoln specifically I'm sure a lot of colleges are like that is a lot of people went to the same school in high school. So most people are genuinely gonna know who you're talking about especially if you have some sort of nickname for high school people is it and then people will know who you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02So it's really I mean is that pretty much is that commonplace where people are identifying who they're talking about or who they are almost all the time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah I feel like it was a lot bigger for Funir than it is now but we did get a a letter sent out so last night on our East campus there was a guy walking around with a gun and someone called the cops and was like hey I'm sure like you guys have heard about this. You know it's been like 30 minutes we're kind of just wondering where are you guys people posted it all over Yik Yak, but no one called the cops. So we then got an email sent to us saying hey next time something like this happens call the cops and don't post on Yik yak. So yeah right yik it's it's pretty pop once here in fact at 7 a.m it was 9 30 so it was nine somebody get a picture of the streak roll it's all but like it's not banging on car windows like opening yeah and like an employee of the school they were in their like employee car because you can tell by the truck they have like University of Nebraska on them. So I think I can't remember if you or I were talking about it the other day we were like I wonder if they got that employee never got compensated for that happening to him. So was this just some random dude from yeah yeah nine in the morning in the city apparently someone I think said that he was like either from a mental hospital or it was psycho got yeah got admitted into the hospital for like psychiatric old but I guess he left and was just around campus naked. Yeah which was actually really sad but I think when it happened everyone's like what's going on it's nine in the I thought it was AI the whole time I thought that there was a shooting because it was at the business school which is right next to our sorority house and there was so many sirens. I look out my window because it woke me up and I was like what's going on street walk down cob cars ambulances and I was freaking out like what's going on yeah then to find out within a few minutes no just a freaker but he was running down to our 16th street which is like some of our Greek rows so it's down like going down by sororities he's running down then he makes it out to the cop on gets on his knees and starts like going like this. He starts yelling I love Jesus the whole time.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha well at least he had a nice message um yeah right on um says little birthday suit on um so uh so where do you go from here?
SPEAKER_04What are your uh tell me about your hopes and dreams uh Abby what are you thinking about future wise what's your hopes and dreams not just work but everything I'll give you the short term and then the long term right now I'm just trying to pass my Calc and account test that's my short term dream and then I would like to travel um we're studying abroad in Barcelona this summer so that dream will come true but I would like where where'd you say Barcelona. Oh yeah so it should be fun um but then after school I want to move I want to get into medical sales so I'll either move back to Denver but I'm hoping to move to San Diego. But if that doesn't fall through I told my parents I'm just gonna backpack Southeast Asia and Australia until I find a plan in life so are they down with that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah that's all I want to do I just want to travel but yeah are your parents down with that no that's why I have a backup I like the plan I like the I like the I like the backup thing.
SPEAKER_04The backpack thing I like that I mean you got time to you know do that for a year at least dying European travel really ripped man that would pay for me to travel I I would drop out of school and just say that I don't have a return flight yet for summer. I only have a one way right now there you go there you go.
SPEAKER_02How about you Anna?
SPEAKER_04You know I'm trying to think about my life and my mom say every day it says what do you want to do with your life and I'm kinda like I mean honestly I'm just a sophomore I don't really know. My big goal in life would be like to work for the NFL or like a big like network and like work go burn post. No thanks I'm like uh I don't know do that. I do want to travel like O yeah I'm starting sending abroad with her too says Tiana and fellas can come visit but um I don't know I think I just like I'm someone who like doesn't like to have a plan and like I kind of go with the flow and I think like after college like I'm obviously gonna look for like a job and like start off somewhere. Luckily like in Lincoln I do not want to stay here but like we have the huddle like we've had a huddle headquarters which is like for like an exporting agency which is really nice like for an internship so I might like look into that next year to get some experience so then once I graduate I can move out of the state. But I think I'm just gonna take it year by year and just find what I love to do. And honestly I think it'd be kind of cool to go into like sales but with like broadcasting because like we we had in class today we had like this guy that coming came in and he like talked about it and was like you gotta like the way you like sell advertisement of like sporting teams and all that like makes bank and I was looking like I can be kind of persuasive.
SPEAKER_02Like I was like yeah you know I might go that route sales no you can make some money um I didn't even ask you guys so are you all from where are you all from I'm from Denver I'm from Wisconsin.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh and then I'm from Minnesota.
SPEAKER_02Oh wow so did you guys you guys didn't meet each other until freshman year?
SPEAKER_04Yeah I met her the day before we found out we got the bid we lived on the same floor.
SPEAKER_03She lived like three or four doors down me.
SPEAKER_04We met this is actually a crazy story. I was one day we all lived in the same building and I we met after like our chapter our Monday meeting um I was in her room we gave each other tours of our rooms and I was saying like I'm from Colorado or whatever and she was like this is such a long shot but do you know this guy? And I was like yes he moved to my high school senior year like we were about to date and then turns out she was about to I was about to date too before he moved to Colorado my senior year. So we really bonded over that and became great friends.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely so now all right wait a minute how is the timing on that did that did not overlap.
SPEAKER_04I didn't overlap okay okay I'm gonna leave my dating him I'm dating I know your boyfriend too my boyfriend no did not overlap but yeah that's wild I mean what a long shot yeah where you say Denver uh just south it's called Parker got sure yeah um and where in Wisconsin are you from Anna? Um it's a small town 10 minutes north of Milwaukee it's called Whitefish Bay.
SPEAKER_02Whitefish Bay my sister lives in Milwaukee. Oh really yes she does she's lived there forever um well for a long long time um I know where you're from though uh good old Omaha um Anna do you want to so you want to get out of well do you want to live elsewhere besides Wisconsin or um okay so my parents actually moved to Colorado which is kind of funny so I was like an hour from Abbey now.
SPEAKER_04So like technically I don't have like a home there anymore but like I personally like I live there so I would love to move back there. I just honestly don't think like that's where I'm gonna get the best job opportunities right out of college. So I think like that's like once I like settle down, get married, have some kids, move back there. But I think like I need to like look more at like where my major and like where like those job opportunities are going to be because like honestly they're usually east coast area west coast like more like towards over there so I think like yeah like look more into that.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha. What about you uh Isley what are you wanting to are you do you think you'll stick around Omaha or what do you think?
SPEAKER_04Um I think for a while I'll stick around there but I do want to travel a lot. I do want to live on a beach at some point in time. Just don't know when but I do want to like live on a beach but I also was thinking about being a traveling nurse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah for sure for sure it's also worth it yeah I mean every yeah I just did a cow that's a traveling nurse I just did her hair the other day and uh I mean that just seems like that's the way to go.
SPEAKER_04It is especially for a few years to start off. Sure yeah yeah and I mean why not just travel around to do nursing yeah exactly um all right Tiana wake up Tiana I'm losing her all right what how what about you? Do you want word uh you're from so I'm from Minnesota like Twin Cities area um I'm in Minnetonka um which is west of the Twin Cities. I would love to move back um I don't know fully if I ever actually will it's not something that I can really see myself doing until like I probably like settle down and have kids. But um right now I think it's just more about figuring out what I want to do with my career. I think I've changed my major like four times but that's okay because I like a lot of different things and it's a good way for me to find out what I really want to do. I feel like especially when it comes to like owning businesses and things like that you kind of learn the ins and outs a little bit um and yeah so I'm gonna travel and then we'll figure it out there.
SPEAKER_02Right on that's cool. That's cool. All right I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you one more question but before I get to that is oh no oh no we can hear you.
SPEAKER_04All right here you go no go ahead okay sorry um is there anything that you guys wanted to get out on the podcast before I asked you the final question my best advice only thing I will say if you go to the same school as your brother don't get too close to his friends watch Abby only advice I say I'm not it's not personal it's just in general I've seen it happen.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh I have a feeling that's kind of you're being cryptic as to something that may or may not have happened with somebody else theoretically theoretically it was a different Aggie Heiz the year.
SPEAKER_02A D E Y all right all right it's out there it's on the air it's out there absorbing that's okay if you make your whole podcast just that advice yeah that's it that's gonna be my teaser college advice from a genius yeah all right um question is what are you all right so I'll just go down the line uh Abby what are you listening to That what's like something that you listen to music-wise that you always kind of go back to, even if it's something like that you grew up with when you were young, like that if you're like, oh, you always just put it back on, or when you jump in the car, something something that always pulls you back. What is that?
SPEAKER_04Some feel-good music? I'll do the eagles. I'll take that's a very like always pull back to that.
SPEAKER_02Do your folks like that?
SPEAKER_04Do your parents like that?
SPEAKER_02Do your parents like that?
SPEAKER_04Or do I just rock 80s, 70s? So uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I bet here, I bet if they heard that, that would warm their heart. They would just because I know I would love it. I'd be like, oh right on. Uh, and then what about new? What's new that you just like, oh my gosh, just like blowing you away right now?
SPEAKER_04Oh, Chris Stapleton. Without a note.
SPEAKER_02Okay, right on. Does he have a new album up?
SPEAKER_04No, no, but he's it just right on.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Little Tennessee whiskey.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right on. How about you, Anna? Old, what? Someone, what's that thing that keep that the oh that you just keep pulling get pulls you back?
SPEAKER_04Um, I mean, like I had kind of like a lot. I mean, like, if we're going the family route, this is just weird. Uh doesn't have to be song like Come On Feel the Noise or like The Twisted Sister, like that's not like my dad's actually Mom and Dad, little rockers, hard rock, a little hair rock. Yeah, me and my dad always are like another of my news videos. Oh my god. Yes. Like my dad and I would always like jam out to that in the car, so like we're going that route. Other than that, I would say like I'm super into country. So when I'm kind of in like a sad mood or like vibey mood, I always go to country because I feel like there's like so like variety. But if I'm kind of just in like girl pop era era, I'll just hit up like Tay McRae, Taylor Swift. Oh, I'm a big Swifty, but no one knows that. She didn't like no one knew I was a Swifty until like this year. So I feel like just kind of like a whole variety. Oh, I do like Sabrina Carpenter, yeah. I think it just all depends on like my mood. I've just more been in a country right now, just because like it goes with every mood.
SPEAKER_02Right on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right, is what's the old? What's what do you get pulled back to?
SPEAKER_04Well, well, pulled back to definitely Michael Jackson. My mom would play music videos all the time. Brittany Spears, but she's my go-to now, but they all pulled back that also. So Britney Spears and Michael Jackson. And then also right now, Lono Del Rey. No, well, we went to a southern city, and I think we listened to like five of Britney Spears songs together.
SPEAKER_02Really? She's your go-to. Oh, here we go. All right, Tiana. What do you got? What's your older that you can pull back to?
SPEAKER_04I have a huge classics playlist, which I love. I always listen to it when I'm like happy or just like chilling, but definitely Sleepwood Mac is always kind of my go-to for I love all of their songs. And then what am I listening to now? I feel like Olivia Dean, she's getting really popular.
SPEAKER_03Her songs, I love them. I love them. And then uh what I don't know how to say her last name, Deanna Sapiro.
SPEAKER_04Oh, Dean is gonna be the Australian girl. That I a lot of people are saying it's funny because my mom always says, like, your generation does not have the music that we used to have. Which is very true. Like, she would always ask, like, name someone who's as great as this person, name someone who's like as great as Adele, as great as Michael Jackson. I could never come up with a name. But I think now we're kind of starting to see that push a little bit with like more stars coming out to oh, I love Bruno.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, also Bruno's a party. Bruno's well, and I know what your mom's saying, but at the same time, I'm because I'm a musician, also I I played a band, some Olivia Dean. But I mean, and like her, for instance, is a good example. It's just like she's play there's like there's like an old throwback feel to her stuff. Yeah, yeah, that like your mom could dig, you could dig it. I mean, it's just like it's kind of almost energetic.
SPEAKER_04Really, like that's kind of where a lot of people are getting their ears. And I think like there's something really cool about like social media in itself, and like obviously it does do some harm, but it does a lot of good for people when it comes to like careers and like actually being able to like put things out there, like especially with music. I've heard so many songs and so many artists where I'm like, oh my god, you're amazing. What have you been on being on the top?
SPEAKER_02Uh, good list, you guys. Well, it was fun talking to you guys. Um, so yeah, check us out uh on YouTube. Uh, it's called Making No Sense, C-E-N-T-S with Tom Cena on YouTube and also on everywhere that you listen to your podcasts. Dial us up. And I'll probably, I don't know what I'm gonna title this one yet. What do you think?
SPEAKER_03My secret life of policy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02The secret I like that.
SPEAKER_03Secret Life of Bella Morrell. It is it? It's not about it.
SPEAKER_02Right. Oh, let's make it all about you is right on. All right. Well, I like the secret life secret life with secret life with sorority girls or secret life. Yeah, I something like that. That's a little bit uh that might that might get some people to watch.
SPEAKER_04Secret lives of Abby Beer Disciples.
SPEAKER_02We didn't want to go too deep on the uh into the secrets. All right, well, thank you guys. Thanks so much for having us. All right, I'll let you know when it's up. See you later.
SPEAKER_03Like a nice set.