S1E10 - Fitzpatrick Earns Redemption , LIV Printing Headlines, Creating the Greatest Golfer

This episode covers the fascinating unwritten rules of Augusta, recent golf tournaments, and intriguing golf trivia. Plus, a fun draft of the best golfers' skills and a look at Masters-themed merchandise.

00:00 Superstitions and Unwritten Rules of Augusta
01:27 The Live Tour's Impact and Bryson DeChambeau's Success
11:20 TGL Finals and Golf YouTube Trends
13:52 Barstool's New Pro Golfer and Bob Does Sports' New Video
16:54 Houston Open Preview and Player Picks
19:20 Masters-Themed Releases and Personal Experiences
22:11 Blind Ranking Shocking Golf Losses
25:00 Name That Golfer Challenge
36:43 Emotional Moments in Golf History
38:01 Innovative Golf Techniques and Equipment
39:13 Legends of the Game: Resilience and Triumph
40:33 Heartbreaks and Near Misses in Golf
41:52 Trivia Time: Golfing Facts and Anecdotes
43:47 Building the Ultimate Golfer: A Draft Challenge

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Golf, Masters, Augusta, Golf Trivia, PGA Tour, Live Golf, Golf Equipment, Golf History, Golf Picks, Golf Merchandise

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

So, not to steal something from one of our favorite sitcoms, but Casey, are you a little sticious or are you superstitious?

SPEAKER_00 0:07

I'm superstitious.

SPEAKER_03 0:08

There you go. Well, because at Augusta, it's not only about your swing. There are a dozen unwritten rules that say if you slip up, if you do them, you are not winning the masters.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Can you name some of them? Only one I know off the top of my head is you can't win the par three contest the week the week of.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

That is correct. No one who has ever won Wednesday's famous family-friendly par three contest has ever gone on to win the Masters. They've had some close calls in recent years. The most famous one who didn't win it, but uh had a very memorable moment was Tony Finao when he almost broke his own ankle after he hit a hole and one. Um and then he actually did everyone was fading him that week. He actually did a top ten that week. So it was pretty amazing. We got a couple other ones on here that are pretty interesting. Apparently, if you look at the pressers, especially on Sunday, for a person in contention, they will not mention one thing. Do you know that what that one thing is? Say the green jacket. Yeah. If you look at a lot of pressers, even the night before on Saturday, if they're in contention, they will not say the words green jacket. And it's something I've never really noticed before, but that's also very fascinating. Then I found out about this other one because Mr. Ludwig Oberg accidentally did this and didn't realize it. But he stepped foot inside the champion's locker room during the week by accident. So if you ever go back on full swing, he did this. That's a big no-no. That might be a couple year long big no-no. The curse on that one. So can't do that. And then do you know the process for the bibs?

SPEAKER_00 1:51

I think it's the order in which you sign in the first day, correct? That's the number you get.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

It is minus one thing. Number one is reserved for the previous year's champion. So Rory will have caddy bib number one. Otherwise, it is based in on the order you show up and sign in officially to the masters tournament. There are some very lucky numbers. There are numbers that have won multiple, multiple times, but there is one short number that's been worn the most and has never gotten a win. Can you guess the number? 13. No what? 13 has three wins. It's actually pretty I I originally thought that as well. But no, number three. So early bird does not get the worm at Augusta. Number three has never won the Masters tournament.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Wow. That's pretty funny. That's, I mean, this reminds me, I think it might have been in full swing or something else that I read where players will like loiter around the area and wait for others to go and sign in first. Yeah, which I would do the exact same thing.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

Absolutely. Absolutely. So if you do any of these things, you're screwed. No one's ever won in uh masters of that.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Oh golfers. Has the game grown too much? Do we need more scratch golfers? I'm telling you, have to slow the game down. You can't grow golf because people are chunking it into the weeds all day. That's player.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Hey everybody, it's Des and welcome back to the Hack and Scratch podcast, episode number 10. We are at double digits, Casey. We're experienced. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 3:32

I'm doing great. Yeah, 10 episodes. I think we've covered a lot of cool stuff, and it's only getting better and better.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Absolutely. So I know you had a good week in Vegas attending March Madness, but were you gearing up at all for some golf come uh come Sunday? Or were you just strictly focused on uh basketball this weekend?

SPEAKER_00 3:53

I mean, I definitely was focused on basketball, but one thing I kept thinking of of like what is the March Madness for NCAA golf? You know, like or what is the equivalent? And I realized I don't know many of the NCAA players right now that are like probably top 10 of PGA tour use. So I looked a bunch of them up, and some of these guys' resumes are just incredible. Like they've won multiple awards for like college achievements and high school achievements. So it's definitely something I'm gonna start paying attention to a little more after seeing all these great NCAA basketball players is keeping an eye on the NCAA golfers because we're going to see them on the tour eventually.

SPEAKER_03 4:32

Absolutely. I, you know, I've only watched the NCAA championships a handful of time, but it is always super interesting. I mean, it always comes down to the wire. It's a team-based event and a solo competition. So you have both sides going at the same time. Uh, a lot of that team aspect that you see at the Ryder Cup also transfers over here where the whole team surrounding the last putt on 18 to win it. It's it's a really good vibe. I always like keeping track on that and always usually has a pretty good finish. But you're right, there's some great names on there that we'll see here in in amateur competitions. We'll probably see one of the top candidates at Augusta um for the amateur status and the wins there. Um and yeah, it's it's gonna be it's it's gonna be a really good one. Uh shifting focus to what happened this weekend, which is something that we don't see very often, but I I loved seeing it, uh, which is runner-up followed by a win. And so Matt Fitzpatrick goes from runner-up heartbreak last last week to winner this week, and you gotta hand it to him. He's playing some incredible golf right now.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Definitely. And I think this is why I always like picking guys based on how they've done the week before. Just because I personally don't think you lose something that quickly when you've placed so well, generally. Like, definitely you have your weeks where it just kind of all goes awry, but you you stay in that consistent kind of format of your swing and you feel comfortable, and that's how he looked the week prior. So for him to come out and and win, like I'm not too surprised. You know, they these players go on runs of of doing really well and feeling like everything's working for them. And I think that happened with Matt Fitzpatrick. So yeah, really happy for him. I think he's been hunting that win for a while now, and that's a good way to go into the the major season. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

He uh he beats David Lipskey, who is a 37-year-old PGA tour player, never has won uh an event uh on tour, but has kept his card for many, many years. Uh finishes a very close second um to Matt Fitzpatrick. It was a little bit of heartbreak there as well. He needed to birdie 18, didn't quite do it, gave it a good run. Um, I always kind of root for people who haven't won and have a chance to win it that late in life and uh or late in career, not late in life, late in career at 37, and um yeah, just couldn't quite do it. So he was gutted on the the last, and then speaking of gutted, uh our final pairing had a real rough Sunday um and uh couldn't quite get it done.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. So Sun Jim was was one of the ones that kind of collapsed at the end. And to be honest, I would have put my money on him on Friday, knowing how well he was doing. But we've seen that a few times of the final group kind of falling apart. You saw it with Ludwig Oberg and and Thor a couple weeks ago, and an addition Brandt Snedeker, which he had some great interviews over the week because he was playing really well. And you know, people kind of see him as more of a champions tour guy now. So for him to be able to compete with the young guys is awesome. But both him and Sung J just kind of fell apart in that final round, and it was tough to see. I I love it when a champions tour player who's, you know, still a part of the PGA tour will go and get a win. Like it's that's awesome to me. So I was I was disappointed. I wish that one of those guys would have pulled it off. But you know, when somebody's feeling hot, it they they just get it done.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

Yeah, it was pretty inspiring stuff. He was playing, he's playing so good. I really can't wait to see what he does here in the next couple weeks and leading into Augusta and and what we get there. So, like I said, last week, a lot of great headlines and just storylines forming as we get into kind of the really key part of the season. Switching to the live tour, man, they are having a just phenomenal run right now. They they continued to print headlines. You wonder why this wasn't happening all the time since the beginning. But DeChambo goes back to back, and as you mentioned before, quite an emotional win, it seemed like.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Yeah, and it to go back to back against some of the other best players in the world that are on the Live Tour is a big deal. And I think most significant is that he's winning right now in a time where you need to be in tip top form to compete with the major tournaments against players that you haven't you only play against a couple times a year now because of that live PGA separation. Bryson is winning at the right time, and he's setting himself up. I mean, a lot of people are already speculating about Augusta for him, and I'm not surprised. Like he he was in the final pairing last year. Um he's had some some close calls with it, and he's a multiple major winner, so he's gonna be somebody to look out for.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Yeah, absolutely. It's um it's gonna be interesting. If Scotty can pull it off this week in Houston, the stories are really writing themselves with all the top golfers in the world just coming into form. He's oddly enough, he's probably the one that's, you know, maybe not as far ahead right now as some of the other ones. But yeah, it's it's gonna be fascinating. He's Bryson is just striping the ball off the tee. The lines he's able to take right now with his distance is is incredible. And while, you know, by no means is Augusta a a bombing gouge, it very much can help the player to do such. I think, you know, obviously he had the very close call last year in in the Masters. I think he's probably most likely right in the mix again. So it should be really great. Uh, but it it marks his uh second straight live win, as we said, but also a win for his team, the Crushers. So that's another great thing. Is his team also won that event. It was the first ever Live event hosted in in South Africa. That's incredible. As such a great nation, South Africa is for golfing and the golfers that have come out of there. I'm sure the crowds were just absolutely fired up for this tournament.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, that that is one of the things that I will say about Live is that they they bring golf all over the world, you know, um Singapore, South Africa. Some of these places that you're not necessarily going to see a PGA tour, DP World Tour event. So they're taking advantage of uh kind of that missed market, um, which is pretty cool. And like you said, South Africa has a pretty uh significant golf culture with a lot of professional golfers coming out of there. So it only makes sense that they would want to do something.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Yeah. I'm sure there were a bunch of South African golfers on uh DP and uh PGA tour this week that wish they were playing in that. That's for sure. Yeah, 100%. Well, good. We have the TGL season is coming up to or coming to a wrap. We had the first, which we were kind of surprised of, first match of potentially three in the finals between Jupiter and LA tonight. Did you catch any bit of it?

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Yeah, I did. Um, and it was kind of a close match, especially toward the end. But yeah, shout out to my my LA golf club for pulling it off tonight. I think the the last hole was uh singles Saat Degala versus Kevin Kisner. And LAGC had thrown the hammer, they were down by one, and so they needed to win the hole in order to switch, uh flop the scores and pull it off. And Saat Degala was able to make Birdie. Kevin Kisner was not, and he had a chip in to tie the hole. Unfortunately, it was it was just off the mark. Did he skull it and hit the flag stick? He didn't, surprisingly, but he uh he came very close to holding it out, and that would have tied it, which would have given them the win. So kind of kind of dramatic end to it. But yeah, we were saying how I I I kind of forgot that that's the method that they did was best of three. And so it's like, wow, that it's over. They did it. Like, no, we gotta come back tomorrow night still. So I guess we'll find out tomorrow. We will.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

Yeah, we'll see. I I would have to assume LA can at least pull off one of those two victories. So looks like the Cups coming home to you, which is uh is pretty awesome. Yeah, great. Well, in light of March Madness, I feel like golf YouTube may have taken a back seat. I know all the all the Bob Dow sports people were busy doing live streams and watching events of of March Madness on Thursday, Friday. There just wasn't a ton of content coming out uh this week. So I did see a funny video of Grant Horvat getting a boat today. So that's that's the uh level of golf YouTube we had this week is instead of golfing videos, we had Grant Horvat gets a boat, which to be fair, I do know how much that guy loves to fish and just probably wishes he was out fishing instead of on the course sometimes. So to see him get his dream boat, very cool. Not not poo-pooing that at all. That's fantastic. It was a little cheesy, but very happy for him. It looks like a fantastic boat. People were in the comments saying it's quite an expensive boat, which obviously he can afford given his his his rise in in fame and golf YouTube. So pretty amazing. You know, that should be the headline is golf YouTuber can buy his really, really, really expensive boat.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Yeah, I'm all for it. Especially, I'm assuming he lives in Florida. So, you know, where what a great spot to have a boat. But it it's just it's funny. And I think, yeah, that is the headline is golf too, golf YouTube is so popular that these stars can go and buy their own boats. Yes. So good for him.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

They got yes, YouTube golfers got boat money. That's right. So the internet invitational, I said they've been releasing one by one episodes. This one was a pretty interesting match, another kind of more verbally entertaining than golf entertaining, but it was uh a popular video game streamer, Nade Shot, who I didn't really know much of. Uh, and Garrett Clark, obviously from Good Good. Then Peter Finch, who longtime YouTube uh golfer, instructional person, and then Jet from Bob to Sports. Hilarious match. Nade Shot might be the funniest person on the entire course, just dropping insane jokes and hilariousness. Peter Finch is a just stone cold killer on the golf course. He is a very, very, very good golfer. Um, yeah, it was pretty interesting, you know. Like, like I said, very comedic, very good. The big news going into this week, and you know, obviously you had to match tonight, but Barstool welcomes their next pro golfer athlete in Kevin Kisner.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Yeah, I I saw a little bit of that. I guess my question is, what what does that mean for Kevin Kisner specifically, like in the world of professional golf? Because I was kind of under the assumption that he might be stepping away from like consistent competitive golf. And maybe he already am I wrong?

SPEAKER_03 15:30

I think he is. I think this is an outlet. Obviously, he's on the broadcast. I think he's enjoying the broadcast work a lot. He's very good at it. So I think this is part of his plan. I think he will start winding down his competitive rounds on the tour, and I think he will take this role in stride. And you know, it comes with playing golf, it comes with being on a podcast, it comes with a lot of things. So I'm sure he's being paid well, otherwise, he wouldn't be doing it. And, you know, I think the bar I think Barstool adds like a really good component with that. So I know they probably had to pay up for it, but you see the the legitimacy that getting John Gruden for the football content has done. I think they wanted to emulate that with getting Kevin Kisner for their golf content.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

I think that's so smart. And I I think what a better there's nobody better to do it than that because he's got the personality to be fun, but he can also, he's still a professional golfer. And so he brings a lot to the table. So that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Absolutely. Well, Bob Does Sports had their inaugural video uh without ticket. So the first one without ticket on the squad, it felt that there was something that was off. They were trying to keep the vibes high. It was a drinking challenge, so it was always gonna be vibes really, really high for this one. Uh, they had to finish, I think, nine have a days in 18 holes. Good luck to them. That's just real rough stuff. Yeah, nine each. Uh, and so it it it had it had funeral vibes. I don't know. It was just like there was an air of sadness about like something's missing here, and they just kind of kept trying to plug through it, and I get it. There was a gaping hole, but um, they did it, they got their first video out with out ticket, and you know, it was good stuff. It was it was it was typical Bob to sports, some hilarious mostly hilarity, some golf mixed in, and uh it was good.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Yeah, I mean, I I totally get that, and I love that, yeah, maybe that's the way that you gotta cope with uh having a member of your team go find another job. It's like, oh, you know, this our buddy's gone. We gotta do something. Let's all just get drunk and and play golf. And I'm like, yeah, I probably would have done the same thing. So, you know, I still thought, yeah, it was very funny. Great marketing for have a day, which have you had one of their drinks, by the way? No, actually I haven't now that you mentioned it. No. Neither have I, but I want to try it now. They look good.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Yeah. Um yeah. Well, they drank a lot of them, so it's gotta be good enough to at least consume uh nine of them.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

And I I don't need nine. I may need nine over the course of uh maybe a couple weeks, but yeah. Do you remember like the most hammered you've ever been on a golf course?

SPEAKER_01 18:08

On a golf course? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

I didn't love it.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Like But I think it wasn't the right company. It was, I think if I was going with my boys, I think it would be fine and more fun because they were laughing at everything toward like whole seven there. And I'm like, look how they're having so much fun. Like, I just want to be there and experience this ridiculousness. But yeah, it it can it can be not fun.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

Yeah, it's funny. I mean, I love drinking on a course, but I've just never been so hammered that I couldn't stand over a ball. Like, yeah, I just I I value the time that I can get out there so much, I think, that I just wouldn't do it to myself. I need to enjoy and play. But there is some part that I would just love to see how my body reacts and behaves to being so drunk that I'm seeing like two or three balls in front of me at one time and and not being able to hit. I think that I think that would be ridiculous. So I get why these drinking challenges are are good fun for them.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Des if you if you want to go out and try it, you could you can just say that we can go and get drunk on the course. That's that's true.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

We might need someone to film it, but that that sounds like a good plan. Sweet. All right, so as we move into professional golf this week, not that YouTube isn't professional golf, but more professional golf. We have the Houston Open at Memorial Park. It's a long, long par 70. Now, the thing is that it's not too penal of a rough. This really is your kind of bomb and gouge. You you saw Min Wu get it done last year, who, you know, he's a big long driver with ball, not the most accurate. So he was spraying it all over the place, but you know, he was able to recover, hit some great approaches, and and took down Scotty Scheffler, which is my next point, which is quite a few young studs have taken down Scotty Scheffler at his home tournament over the years. You had Steven Yeager do it one year, uh, is kind of showing that uh Superman may not be as invincible as you think he is. And so I wonder, with all the storylines going on, are we gonna have a similar thing where someone just chases down Scotty or just inches ahead, just barely? Or does Scotty finally put you know the talk to rest and get a win at I think both scenarios are are very possible.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

I think Scotty's gonna be in the mix regardless. But he is one of my picks for this week. There's just something about playing golf at your your home location that feels different. And, you know, probably even more so to these guys. But like when I go back to Los Angeles and play Griffith or, you know, Sepulveda, I feel comfortable there because I've played the courses a hundred times. I know the city. Like there's just there's a comfort that you don't feel, maybe if you're at some course you've never played before, haven't spent much time at. So that's why I like Scotty a lot for for this week. I think he's gonna get it together. We're kind of getting down to the wire here where he needs to be in his top shape in order to be competitive in these majors. And so I think whatever he's been working on, he's starting to work out.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

So you've given away one of your picks. Who are your other two picks for the week?

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Yes. So my other pick is Harris English. Let me put pull up the note that I had on here for him. Where did this go? My bet. Well, one, he's been playing well consistently. I think, let's see. This tournament specifically, he has a tie for 18, tie for 29. The past few weeks, he's consistently been in the top near the top 20, which I know doesn't sound like a lot, but that's pretty consistent, even if you know you're not winning tournaments. So I like that a lot that he's just playing his game and it seems to be working. In the sense that he's getting, you know, multiple hundred thousand dollar paychecks every week. That's still good golf. And I think he's been kind of hunting for that win. So he's one of my picks as well this week.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

He always just pops off for a random win. You're just like, oh, Harris English won this week. It's just like it's it's not surprising at all, yet it, you know, comes out of almost nowhere. And he's just that kind of consistent a golfer. And when he's getting top 20s, it means he's he's obviously playing good golf. Uh just a few things need to click, and usually it's the putter. Um so we'll see. Obviously, they're switching to to Texas this week, and uh, we'll see how how Texas putting treats Harris English and if he can get it done. But yeah, I I I like the pick. Wouldn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Yeah. And the other one I have is Jake Knapp. Kind of same reasoning, but even more evidence for it. Is his last round tied for 11th, I think tied for eighth, eighth, tied for eighth, sixth. Like, that's come on, like that's almost as good as you can get for going on a run without winning. And, you know, he's finished his tournament tied for 15th before, so he he can play well here. And I I just love Jake Knapp. I think he's he's going to be even a better golfer than he is now. And I I'm just looking forward to seeing if he can get that one more win before a major because I think he's capable of winning a major absolute.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Yeah, I mean, one of the better swings on tour, just so smooth, mayor of Tempo Town. I also have Jake Knapp this week. I think he fits the profile here really well. And also he's been playing lights out. I mean, his ball striking is is top 10 across the numbers here. So yeah, I like Jake Knapp this week. I also like someone who's having a really great season who also can bomb it, you know, who we've seen in person bomb it this year. Uh, but Kurt Kidiyama, I think he'll be in the mix come Sunday, if not, you know, right at the top. And then I took a little bit of a value play here. I went Max Graserman. He has been playing some great golf this year. He had a horrible week last week, and so you're getting a lot of good value on him. But, you know, it's it's a total different style of play than last week. And I, like I said, the way he's been driving the ball, I think he'll have a big leg up this week. And so I would assume Max could could definitely outperform what he did last week, at least, and if not, have a shot to take it down this week. So I'm betting on some some young studs to to take down Scotty in a similar fashion. You know, history loves to repeat itself. So we'll see what we get this week come Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, sounds good. I think those are great picks. And I actually really enjoy these last couple tournaments because guys are focused on the majors, but they know that these tournaments count just as much because they they need to get the confidence that they can go to Augusta and really play well. So I love these weeks leading up to the Masters.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

Absolutely. Well, that's a good segue into our next topic, which is we are continuing to see release after release, limited releases of Masters themed drops. And we got our first bag head-to-head drop. So Vessel Golf, a very good manufacturer of golf bags, released their Masters limited edition release. And in the same week, Ghost Golf, who is kind of an under, I don't know, not underground, but just kind of more modern, younger crowd golf company. Uh, Ghost Golf releases their bag. They do it well as as well. So, what do you think you're looking at both bags right now between the Vessel Golf Augusta and between the golf Ghost Golf Augusta, which one would you prefer?

SPEAKER_00 25:47

I would definitely prefer the vessel because my biggest complaint of when you're doing a either course branded or some other style branded bag, whatever it is, glove, like this Ghost Golf one, you can't put the name of the company that big on the bag. And that's the thing that really bothers me, where it's like, this is our Augusta bag, but it's Ghost Golf. And I'm like, if they had just their logo somewhere else or something smaller, I would like it a lot more. I want the focus to be the bag brand like itself. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Yes, I totally understand what you're saying. You know, even if the ghost golf shrunk down a little bit, I still actually think I like the vessel bag. It's just cleaner, it's sleeker, it's like a modern Augusta. There's a lot of patterns going on with the golf ghost golf one, maybe a little bit too much. The one thing I really did like, and I know you probably can't see it because it's not zoomed in, but the hang tag on like the zipper tag on the ghost golf says patrons only. I think that's pretty sick.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

It's a good nod to Augusta, but other than that, yeah, I think I think you're right. Yeah, I'd go vessel as well.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Yeah. How much do those bags run for, do you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Uh probably I would say$399 on the Vessel one, and I'd probably say similar on the Ghost Golf one.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Yeah. Dang, I think I'd rather rather buy a new driver.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Probably. Although I think new driver now might be six, six, seven hundred. They're getting up there.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Maybe last year's used driver then. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

There you go. Um Barstool released a uh one of their new uh Augusta themed uh releases, which is a it's almost like one of those games where you describe like a fake scenario that's happening. So it is a teddy bear holding an Azalea in a glass, wearing a painter's suit caddy outfit in Master's Augusta Green. And it's uh it's a knitted sweater, very old money, very knockoff Ralph Lauren teddy bear polo. But for Augusta, you know, I hate that I like it a little bit. I I truly I despise myself for liking it a little bit. It just must be how much I love all things masters, but yeah, uh it's it's pretty cool, so go check it out. Um, it looks good. All right. Speaking of which, I had the craziest thing happen to me today, which I I I texted you. It it brought me to my knees, it how much pain. So I I ran a contest a couple or a year and a half ago, which you were in. You could you could have been the person I was sending this to, Casey. And the the the prize was tickets to a practice round in the masters. And so today from FedEx, I got the tickets in my hand to go to the Masters, and just instantly had to package it up and send it on its way to the winner. And it it really pained me to my core to hold tickets to the masters, something I've never gone to, always wanted to go to, and just have to let someone else live, live in the glory. Brutal stuff. Brutal stuff.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Yeah, you sent that to me, and I felt uncomfortable. And I wasn't even the one who am getting the tickets. But, you know, it has to be a weird feeling holding them in your hand, knowing like, yeah, you can't go. Yeah. Kind of reminds me of a conversation we had a while ago about what you would give up to play Augusta, but you know, that's uh that's rough. I also good on you for following through with uh your contest. I think some people might have been like, ah, shoot, you know what? I'm just gonna see if they don't notice that I'm gonna go instead. That would be that would be something.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

No. Yeah. If anything, I'm a man of my words. So but I might not run a contest that good ever again. We'll see. So speaking of contests and games, we got our games coming up. So the first one, we are blind ranking uh a very interesting topic. Some of the greatest golfers ever have never won tournaments that they absolutely should have. And so today we are blind ranking the most shocking losses. And I'm gonna run you through the list. There's eight of them. I want you to blind rank. One being the most shocking. I cannot believe they haven't won this tournament to eight. Eh, it's it's a little shocking. All right, you ready? I'm ready.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

This is one we've talked about. Phil without a US Open.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

That's that's a big one. I mean, I think the thing that I always have to remind myself is, and people will disagree, whatever, Phil was living in Tiger's shadow for years. Like, that's the reasons why he never did win a U.S. Open. So that's big. That to me, I would put it like number two.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

Yeah. You know what? It it's one of the ones here that you're like, I just really wish that did happen. Um, so it makes sense. Okay, this is another one we've talked about. Tiger never winning at Riviera. Crazy.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah, this one's kind of crazy. And I remember as a kid when I would go to the Nissan Open. I think then it was the Northern Trust, then the LA Open, now it's the Genesis. I would go with my dad and you know, we'd go watch Tiger and be like, God, I hope he wins today. And my dad would always say, He's like, Tiger never really plays well at Riviera. And I'm like, Yeah, but he's Tiger Woods. And like, still to this day, I have that voice from my dad telling me like Tiger doesn't play well at Riviera. And he, I mean, he still hasn't. And it's it's hard for me to I would I wish he would have won there, considering that's where his PGA tour career started, you know. So that that's a tough one, but you know, Riviera isn't a major spot. It's it's they're never gonna have actually I shouldn't say that. I think they are gonna have a US Open at Riviera at some point, no? Are they really? Okay, I could I could be wrong. So they used to, I think. I think they used to. Yeah, yeah. So it's a it's a major potential course still. Sure. So yeah, I mean, this is a long-winded way to say I that's a tough one, but I'll put that at a four.

unknown 32:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

Yeah, four's still high. Well, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here, and I'm gonna basically tell you over or under how crazy is it that Jack has also never won at Riviera.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Wow. I actually didn't know that. For some reason, I just assumed that he had. Okay. Well, I'm gonna put that one above that at three. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Okay, more surprising. Okay. Yeah. Uh we got some good ones left here. All right, so I'll give you some some easy ones. Here we go. This one's very relevant to this week. Scotty not winning his home course at Houston Open.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

I I think he will eventually. So this one's not crazy to me. So I'll I'll put I'll put that at the at the bottom at eight.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

Eight. Soon to be extinguished, just like Rory and the Masters. Got it. Okay. Yep. How about this? No major wick victories for Ricky Fowler.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

Yeah. This I think it was 2024, maybe 2023 US Open where Windham Clark won. Yeah. I wanted Ricky to win that so bad. So did everyone. As did everyone. That that's a tough one as well. I might save my number one spot though, so I'm gonna put that at uh I'll put it at six. Okay. Six.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

We've also talked about this one before. Norman at the Masters. Couldn't get it done.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Yeah. We we did talk about this because this one was a collapse as well. Doesn't bother me that he hasn't won the Masters. You know, I guess I am a little surprised, but I'll put that at a seven.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Yeah. Okay. I can live with that. This next one, and you only have two left. Kind of crazy. Is an established European career as this this guy has, Ryder Cup hero, masters win. Sergio Garcia has never won the open championship.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

Yeah, and you you know, I think a lot of the European players value the open more than the masters. So that that's a big one. I don't know if that's number one worthy, though. So I might I might save my number one, but that that is still a big deal that Sergio has not won at the open. So yeah, I'll put that at my five. All right.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Defaulting to number one, taking a risk here. I don't know if it has the gritude that that that some of these other ones do, but it is shocking. The man who helped co-design Augusta and one of the best golfers to ever play the game has not won at Augusta. Bobby Jones has never won at Augusta. Despite designing the course and playing in it many, many times, his highest finish is actually only 13.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Wow, not even a top 10. So I I actually am glad that I saved that for number one. And that's crazy. Because that's crazy. I would have least guessed top 10, top five.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

Yeah. I mean, he demolished a ton of tournaments in his time. And the fact that he co co-created this with Dr. McKenzie, like it just that doesn't make sense to me.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

That's wow, that's something. I did not know that. Yeah. Highest finish, T13. Crazy. Fascinating. Well, you did good. I love your list. It's well ranked. Yeah. Would you have moved anything around? You know, I do think just the fact that that Sergio hasn't won an open, or probably will never, well, you never say never, but most likely will not win an open is pretty crazy. That that that should be high up on the list. But I also agree with you. Phil needs to be up there as well. All the tournaments he's won, even in Tiger Shadow, should probably still have a US open. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Yeah. All right. Well, I realize that I read a lot about golf history, a lot of players and accomplishments. And so I thought we'd do name that golfer. I'm going to give you one clue and we'll see if you can get it on the first one. If not, I have a follow-up hint that should allow you to get it. If not, then I'll then you don't get it.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

You're really testing me wearing this damn hat today, and I like it.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Yes, that's actually the reason I saw the hat and I made these new questions for it. Let's do it. Because I want to seem smarter. Okay. So player number one. This superstar became the first male golfer from his country to win a major championship. I'll go Hideki Matsuyama. Ding ding ding, right on the money. Really proud to give his country that win. Probably one of the greatest players. Yeah, I'll say that. There's a few others as well.

SPEAKER_03 36:45

Yeah. I mean, listen, I obviously love the Masters. There are, and they there are a ton of moments that you could put up in frame from the Masters. However, one of my absolute favorite that almost gets me emotional just saying it is his caddy taking a bow on 18. Cinema.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Unbelievable. Incredible. Absolutely incredible. Yeah. That that was on the cover of either Golf Magazine or Golf Digest. I think Golf Magazine. And I still have that one because I'm like, this is the best cover that I've ever seen. Another thing, and we will do this another week, but ranking the Masters Champions Dinners. I think Hideki's might be up there a bit.

SPEAKER_03 37:29

He did some really just great things with Japanese cuisine. I know he had some really nice Nigiri and like special different cuts of tuna and toro brought in. I there were some people were really looking forward to that meal. That's incest. I agree.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Yeah. Well, nice job. First one, one for one. Good. All right, player two. At age 17, he cut down three iron to 60 degree wedge to be the same length. That's the easy one. Bryson. Okay. I thought you would get that. That's why I didn't need the following.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

This is the only psycho that would do that. Who would do that?

SPEAKER_00 38:09

Yeah, that's I don't know, but I didn't know he did that at age 17.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

That's I didn't know I didn't know he did it at as early as 17, but that does not surprise me.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

Yeah. And I guess a like a lot of people started following suit. He had his coach do it for him and saw off the clubs and fix them for him. But I was reading the reasoning was that he wants to maintain consistency in his swing at all times. I'm like, that that makes sense. Yeah. I'm so used to having my wedge much smaller, so probably wouldn't make sense for me anymore, but really cool.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh so two for two.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

One, but player three. He survived a near fatal head-on car accident in 1949, only to return and win the US Open a year later.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

This is cra I I my like just drunken memory, like just instant memory goes to Arnold Palmer.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

No. But you're in a you're in the right area of time frame. Give me that second. You want another clue? Yeah, give me that second. Okay. He's widely considered the greatest ball striker to ever live. I know that's still a vague clue. I mean, is it Ben Hogan?

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Ben Hogan. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

Okay. So I was, yes. I was in the right, right zone ish.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

You're in the zone.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

I was yeah, I was a little early, but yeah, or a little late. But yeah. Um Okay. I I I yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

I'm yeah. All right. Good. And I also have his book, Five Lessons, sitting right here.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

I yeah. You know, I picked that up a couple years ago, and I still do the Ben Hogan grip. That's that's the one thing I take away from that. I balance the the club in between the two fingers and the palm, and uh that's how I grip my club.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

My coach always had me do the Hogan drill, and uh, you know, I've been doing that ever since. And then I have his other biography here, which I highly recommend I've been working through, so I'll report back. Okay, player four. He has not completed the career grand slam, but he has finished runner-up at the US Open six times.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

I mean, that's weird because I don't think Phil has six runner-ups, but I I I'd have to say yes.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

I'd I'd have to say Phil. Phil is the correct answer. Six times that according to my research, but part of that we were just saying, like, what a way, like think about when he was playing, you know. I think the other players to, you know, to edge him out were VJ Singh and Tiger Woods. So, like all these other guys, you're just it's kind of crapshoot. It's gonna be one of the three of you, and it just happened to not be him. Crazy. Yeah. All right, player five. Uh, he is the only player to ever beat Jack Nicholas in a playoff for a major in the 1971 U.S. Open. Nick Faldo. Nope, but also in the right area. I think let's see if you know this one. He famously claimed he didn't fear lightning because even God can't hit a one iron. Oh, this is such a famous quote. I have another clue that will give it away, but they might give it away if you want it.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

Oh, I should be able to get this. This is crazy. It just sounds like something Gary Player would do.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

No, but that's a good guess. So my last clue is he was in the original Happy Gilmore film.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

Lee Trevino?

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 41:37

That's crazy. Okay, that's good. I would have never got that one. Okay, wow. Good for Trevino taking on a Nicholas.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

That's good. Yeah. Have you heard that even God can't hit a one iron?

SPEAKER_03 41:49

Yes, but I still wouldn't attribute that to Lee Trevino. That's funny. Oh, okay. That seems like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

You're right. It also does seem that way. Okay, player six. And one of the most statistically bizarre feats of his career, he won the 2006 Open Championship at Hoylake while hitting his driver only one time over 72 holes. I t I I had to read this multiple times. I'm like, this can't be true, but it's true.

SPEAKER_03 42:16

Well, okay, so the context clue is there, he's gotta be a big hitter in 06.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

And he won. God, who debuted in like 06?

SPEAKER_01 42:28

You want one more clue?

SPEAKER_02 42:30

No, give me one second. Is it DJ? It is not. Damn, I really thought I was gonna get that, actually.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Okay. This player took only 291 days from his first professional round to become the number one ranked golfer in the world. I mean, no way. Was it Tiger? It was Tiger Woods. He Can you believe that? Isn't that something? I know. I I had to read it multiple times. My guess is the wind. You you you want to keep everything low. Low. And by this time, he was slapping his iron so far with the stingers that it didn't. That's a good one. That's a good trivia question. Right? I had no idea. That's a good one. I like that. Okay. Yeah. I I knew I knew for Tiger, I can't just say like he wears a red shirt. You know, like you need something good that people don't know. I mean that yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:23

I don't know what other meteoric rises to number one in the world would be, but there's sure sh I mean, there's no way there's anyone close to 291 days. That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

Insane. Yep. All right. This next one's gonna be tough. This is player seven. He's the only PGA player to have a win on the LPGA tour. Seems like a trap. It's not.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

I'm assuming this was like a co invitational, co ed invitational.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

It was an invitational. Shoot, I meant to write down the. In Woolley. No, much older. They don't do this tournament anymore. I'll say that. I don't know. Okay, I'll give you one more hint because I think you'll get it on this. But he has 82 wins on the PGA tour tied with Tiger Woods for the number of wins.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

Sam Sneed? Sam Snead. So how did he win the LPGA tournament?

SPEAKER_00 44:26

Let me pull this up real quick. On February 2nd, 1962, at age 49, Sneed won the Royal Pointiana Plaza Invitational, an LPGA tour Battle of the Sexes tournament, where he faced off against 14 LPGA pros. The low woman was Mickey Wright, herself Sneed's equivalent in women's golf at the time, with the most wins on that tour. And he played in it the year prior and was beat, but he ended up winning this year. So he, if you look on his Wikipedia page and his other like official stats, he has a recorded LPGA win. You dug deep to find these ones, and these are good. These are real good. I I knew I kind of had the feeling you're you would have that reaction when I stayed the first clue, though. Okay, last one. So I think I think you're half and half right now. Um player eight. He was the ninth alternate in the 1991 PGA championship at Crooked Stick, and he ended up winning. How did he get into the field as the ninth alternate? It's a great, great question. Is that several players had withdrawn, and I think the last one was Nick Price. It's gotta be low. So he drove from Memphis overnight to make his Thursday morning tea time because one of the other players dropped out to be at the birth of his child. All right, you're gonna have to give me one. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take an early one. Hit me. He currently plays on the champions tour, which I know doesn't help that much. You know I can give yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

This oh god, it just no, it seems it's tough because like my mind goes to it was it wait, he has 19 professional wins. Okay, but it again, this just doesn't seem like he would need to be the ninth alternate. That's what's really throwing me. It's this golfers good enough to have 19 wins, but needs to be the ninth alternate on a tournament.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

But it was 1991.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

I know, I just I'm gonna get this wrong. I'll I'll oh god, I'm gonna get this so wrong. Uh, but I'll throw Ernie Els in there.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

That's a good guess, but it's John Daly. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Okay. I wasn't too far off. Okay. That is awesome. That is awesome. I should have known you would end on a John Daly one. Of course. What am I doing? Yeah. That's incredible.

unknown 46:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

That's that's kind of one of those those crazy, you know, moments of where everything just kind of aligns. You get the call. Hey, you gotta be here. I'm gonna jump in the car and drive eight hours, I think, to get to the the course. Like a little movie. That's epic. That's there is a good YouTube video of him talking about it. Uh so I highly recommend that. But yeah, a lot of interesting stuff with these golfers.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

Wow. That's a good one. I like that one. Good one to end one.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

You did you did very well. Like some of these were hard. Yes. I wouldn't have known any of these, most of these, had I not looked up these crazy facts.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

I feel like definitely on the second clue, my ball knowledge came in, came in handy. So yeah, I feel I feel respectable about that. The Lee Trevino one's crazy. I can't believe I missed that one. But that that's the only one I regret.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

Got it. Well done.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

Well, right.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

We have a draft between you and I to close the show tonight, and it's a good one. Do you want to intro it?

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Yeah. So I thought we would snake draft building the best golfer at any point in their career, but based on their separate skills. So we have five categories: driver, irons, wedge game, putting, and mental toughness. So we're gonna pick, we're each gonna pick a player for each category. You cannot use the same player twice. And at the end, we're gonna see who we think has the better team, or we'll let the world to decide. I love it. I love it. I will give you the honors of starting off with driver.

SPEAKER_03 48:26

All right. I don't yeah, okay. Yeah. It's just hard. Sorry. We're going right off the top. We're we're taking I'm going Rory. Rory off the team. It's a good one. It's a really good one. You could use them later. I get it. It but it's it's just it's a hard one to pass up on this. So I'm going Rory.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

I understand. Cool. So now I pick a driver and then an iron, right? I always get a little confused. Driver. I'm kind of since you took kind of the power play. Then again, I guess I'm gonna have to go Bryson to Shambeau.

SPEAKER_03 48:57

Ooh, nice. It's a good one because you probably wouldn't pick him for anything else. Yeah. That that's a good one. I I did actually think about doing Bryson, hoping that Rory would fall further down, but that's a great one.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Yeah. Irons. I am definitely taking Colin Morakawa. I just think he's just the best iron player ever. And he's smart with the rope X grips. He knows what he's doing. Yeah, he's my pick.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

All right. I'm gonna fight your uh I'm gonna fight your Colin Moraka with my Scotty Scheffler dialed in irons. Okay? Yeah, it's good. I'm going Scotty for for my irons. And now I get my wedge game. You're in trouble. There's there's two names that come to mind here. God, this golfer's so good already. I'm going, I'm going hands like no other. We're going none other than Phil.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

See, I I kind of was hoping you would forget about Phil from our earlier conversation.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

There is a there is an easy second, in my opinion, but we'll see where you go.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

Well, who who is it? You want to give them to me? Uh let me see.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

I'll just say this. You make your own decision.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

But P Reed around the greens is pretty deadly.

SPEAKER_00 50:18

That's true. That's true. But no, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna take Patrick Reed.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:23

Wedge, I'm going to take. I'm gonna take Jordan Spieth.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

I think he's always been really solid around the greens. I wouldn't take him for putting, but I'll get taken for wedge. So, all right, so now I need putting. Also, like nobody's taken Tiger, technically.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

I think we both have our eyes on one prize for Tiger. I know. Unfortunately, you have the first pick on that one. That's right. So that'd be a good strategy to take him now. That's kind of what I'm thinking. I think if you want to save yourself, you might need to do that.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

I think I I think I'm going to. I'm going to take like 2007 Tiger putting with the GS uh GSS Scottie Cameron putter.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 51:08

Um I'm going to round this out. I'm going goat for goat. I'm going jack on the putter.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Um, mental toughness. Obviously, Tiger would have been the goat on this one. Can I put Tom Brady in here? Mental toughness. Well, Michael Jordan is a golfer. Let's see. Mental toughness. Someone who's just continually got it done. You know what? Sorry. This is gonna sting so bad, Casey. I know. I know. I'm going a person who don't give an F about anything. Just show me where the first T is. I'm going John Daly.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

Wow. You know what? I think that is such a good pick because people like John Daly, what are you talking about? He doesn't, he doesn't care about anything. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He he's playing golf and he's either gonna win or he's not, and he's gonna feel exactly the same. Yeah, stings. That's a good, that's a good pick. I am gonna round it out with Nick Faldo. Yeah, we've heard Nick Faldo talk a lot as an analyst, talk, talk a lot about like golf in documentaries. And I've often heard him repeat that you have to just trust how you're going to strike the golf ball. And I think he says it in Tigers documentary as well. And that it's so true. Like he you have to trust that your game is game. And he did. And so I think he is one that I would pick for mental toughness. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:46

These are two extremely gifted golfers that we've created in our odd build-to-bear workshop. Yeah, these are too good. It's hard to decide. It really is. Um Wow, good. I like that game. That was a good game. We should we should run that back again. Well, cool. Any parting words before we before we end this week?

SPEAKER_00 53:06

Not really. We're getting into the most exciting time of the year for golf. So I'm I'm pretty stoked. Yeah, it should be a good one.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

All right. Well, that's gonna do it for us. Thank you for joining and see you next time.