S1E21 - Cauley Gets His First, US Open, Father Son Golf Moments

In this episode, we explore the rich history of the US Open, discuss recent golf tournaments, and share personal stories about father-son moments in golf. Join us for insights, predictions, and fun facts about the sport.

00:00 The Origins of the US Open
02:55 Current Sports Landscape and Major Events
05:35 Bud Cauley's Remarkable Win at the RBC Canadian Open
08:16 The Curtis Cup and Emerging Talents
11:03 The Anticipation of the US Open at Shinnecock
13:26 Golf Predictions and Player Insights for the US Open
16:03 Guilty Pleasures and Golf Equipment Discussions
18:53 Ranking Memorable Sports Days Involving Golf
23:42 Memorable Sports Moments
25:43 Top Storylines for the Upcoming Major
31:24 Father-Son Moments in Golf
37:25 Truth or Lie: US Open Facts


US Open, golf history, PGA, major championships, father-son golf moments, golf tips, golf tournaments, golf stories

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Do you happen to know where the first US Open was played and approximately when it was and how many players competed in it?

SPEAKER_01 0:07

I know it was a very, very long time ago. We're talking like early 1900s, something like that. I don't know where it was played.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Okay. So it's in one of the I think they call it like the original founding US Open venues because the USGA had like five traditional venues, and and one of them is actually Shinnecock this week. But the first one was played at Newport Country Club in Rhode Island in 1895. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Wow. The one thing I I think I do remember hearing about it is that it wasn't a huge deal like it was now.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

No, it was actually played the day after the US amateur, which at that time was way more publicized and kind of popular than this. This was kind of an afterthought, and they were like, oh, well, we we gotta have a professional tournament, so let's just do it. So ultimately that led to guess how many was in the field? Very few. It was 11 players. Yeah, jeez. Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_01 1:03

It's so wild because it's just so different now. Now it's you gotta you gotta win the U.S. amateur to to play to get a spot in the US Open, or you gotta go Monday qualified, your local place. Like it's such a production now. That's such a that's crazy. That's such a shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Just a single day, 36 holes, 11 players with a cash prize of take a sw take a swing on that. 150 bucks. Okay, it's a little bit more than that. Believe it or not, it was a little bit more. It was $335 was the total purse. Unbelievable. They probably just pulled up on 11 players. It probably was just that's just crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

It was just your your regular Monday skins game.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Yeah, I need to I need to factor it for inflation. I bet that's probably like I don't know, the equivalent of like $3,000, maybe even more. No, it's probably even more than that. So I guess it could have been worse, but yeah, unbelievable. Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Has the game grown too much? Do we need more scratch golfers? I'm telling you, hack slow the game down. You can't grow golf if people are chunking it into the weeds all day. Scratch player?

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Wow, it is a busy week. We got the World Cup in full swing. The Knicks and Hurricanes are champions of the world. And the US Open is this week. Pretty amazing week.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

That, and we had the Curtis Cup this past week, too. And then the US, the women's U.S. Open last week. Like it's just what a time for sports right now.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Absolutely. You can't look anywhere without hearing a new headline from something else. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Yeah, it's a lot of fun, and it's brought me a lot of good distraction with having a newborn. There's a lot to watch, a lot to keep me occupied. So pretty fun.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Yeah, you probably could have done with a uh kind of European World Cup because then you would have had like all those uh 12 a.m. and and you know, early games to go for, but I guess this one's good as well.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

So that's true. What what is nice about this week is like I think the uh broadcast for the US Open starts at like 3 45 Pacific time. So I'll be up. So it's perfect.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Nice. Um all right. Well, let's let's recap what happened this past week. We had the RBC Canadian Open in Toronto. It didn't finish quite how we thought it was going to. I don't think I don't think many people saw Bud Cauley pulling this one off. Uh, but he finally gets it done. It's a it's an incredible story and just a reminder of never give up on your dreams. And just, you know, at no matter at what age, what start it is, you can still get it done. 239th start for Bud Cauley. Finally gets a win, closing with a 565, a very rainy TPC Toronto, but in an incredible story.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Yeah, I think this is kind of one of those things where you have to remind yourself how difficult it is to win on the PGA tour, how many things need to go right, and how many things need to go wrong for others in order for you to win. And I remember Saak Degala talking about this on the Netflix full swing documentary. Like, it's so hard to win out here because somebody just gets hot and then you know runs past you like Russell Henley did Eric Cole the week before. Like you just never know when everything is gonna come together for you. So very cool that it did for Bud Cauley, especially in those conditions, but he he kept it going and he was able to just rally and it's pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Yeah, pretty amazing. Uh he he definitely got hot on the back nine. He chased down a bunch. Yeah, uh, we had some really great names in the in the the mix of it this this week. We had uh Fitz, he made a a really great run with the 64 on Sunday. We had Victor Hovlin in the mix, eventually taking uh I think it was a T3 or solo three, and then uh Jackson Suber played out of his mind, but he eventually faded to about fourth. But incredible. I mean, incredible storylines, and it's awesome to see you know Bud Cauley take one down and knock it, maybe chased down by a Matt Fitzpatrick or someone who's been at the top before. So pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Yeah, and I I don't know if Bud Collie was already in the fields for the US Open. For some reason, I'm assuming not. There's no way. Okay, so now he is, and uh, you know, that's that's awesome. Like, what a way to to catapult you into one of the year's biggest tournaments, which is pretty fun. I have one gripe about the RBC Canadian Open, and I noticed this last year too, but ever since last year was appropriate.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

This year, not so much.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

What what happened last year?

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Well, no, I'm saying it was the year after. So it's a little bit because I know where you're going with this.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Okay. I should have counted the number of times they played a crazy drinking game. Yes, they replayed Nick Taylor's putt. Like I we get it. It's it was an amazing putt and an amazing way for him to win the tournament and beat Tommy Fleawood, who thought he had his first win kind of in the bag, but they just were beating that dead horse like no other. And I'm just like, oh man, you you got and you know, they changed the logo last year or whatever and did all this stuff. So I'm like, I get it, but you're right. It it was probably way more last year. Maybe I just noticed it more this year, but it was a lot.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Yeah, it really was. Um, all right. You watched a little bit of the Curtis Cup. How was it?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Yeah, I watched the I watched so much different golf. Uh I watching the highlights again from the women's U.S. Open at Riviera was was such a really fun to watch. But then yeah, I started turning into the Curtis tuning into the Curtis Cup uh when I was getting a little bored with the Canadian Open. And I was watching the US team, and there's this woman from University of Texas, her name's Farah O'Keefe. Uh well, she's a college student, but she went five her tournament, which is just like unheard of. And, you know, she's already one of the top collegiate players in the country. But after this, like she's probably got all eyes on her, and it was just really cool, just dominant. So yeah, the the U.S. went on to win. And what was cool too was this tournament was at Bel Air Country Club. So I know there were there were several people who were in the U.S. Women's Open who just popped over and played at the Bel Air Country Club the week after, which what a little mini tour they got to go on with the LA courses. Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

It's really cool. That is really cool. Well, great. I did not get to watch uh much of it. So uh that sounds that sounds amazing. It was kind of another quiet week. I don't know whether we're just going through a little bit of a slump or or what's going on, but YouTube golf took another kind of slow week. Uh, it did feature two uh Bob to Sports videos, one on the front end and one on the back very back end. Justin Thomas uh scramble versus uh Bob to Sports. Uh Bob to Sports got it done. I think they lost the first one, won the second one, and now there just needs to be a tiebreaker. I'm pretty sure that's how it works out. But uh yeah, no, they they played great. They're playing great. Even Joey's contributing, so that's looking a little bit better. He's still shanking it, he's still hitting them out of bounds, but he he's contributing a good bit now. He had like an insane second shot on a par five to about like five feet, uh, real nice. And then Justin Thomas, I just every time I find myself slipping on like, do I like Justin Thomas or not? He's hilarious. He is such a great personality, super competitor. There, it's hard not to like that guy. He he's he's really likable.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

I felt the same way, and I feel like I had the same pro thought process of like, how do I feel about him? And then every time I see an interview with him or something like this, dude is just he's cool. He's down to earth, he gets it. What I love too is like they went into playoff holes, and you could tell Bob was like, You you have time for this? He's like, Yeah, we're we're doing this, you know? And like I love that that he was so interested.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

I went to the Monday after the PGA championship. That was the Monday after the PGA championship.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Like mad props, you know. Any other person probably would have been like, Oh, that was fun, guys.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

We'll we'll we'll see. May not have even shown up because Thomas was in contention. I think he got like what, fifth? Yeah. Uh on the PGA championship. Unbelievable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

It just goes to show how kind of powerful YouTube golf is and like how important it is to some of these guys, but also just how competitive he is. He doesn't want to lose, you know, what whether he's playing in a major or to these knuckleheads batting the golf ball around. So I really liked that episode. I thought it was a great one.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Totally. And then we have the same style video, which I thought was kind of interesting that they put that on the similar week, but uh Bob does sports versus Bryson, in which Bryson also lost again. Um, I think that's two losses for Bryson, though.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

If I'm correct. So yeah, boys got it done yet again. Played some good G.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

They really did. And it's got me thinking, because you know, looking at the US Open field, it's like, oh well, Bryson has won the US Open twice. I'm like, based on the YouTube videos I'm watching, I don't have much confidence in him this week. So I don't know if it translates. I know it's just a very different mindset, but still it gets it, it makes you think.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Yeah. I mean, hey, we've been saying he's been struggling on these YouTube videos the whole season, and look how the rest of his seasons turned out at the majors. So clearly there might be a connection.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

All right, let's flip the script. Let's move over to the US Open. It's time, it's at Shinnecock. What an incredible venue. We were back here in 2018 when Brooksy won it. I remember that because I actually had a bet on Brooks 50 to 1 and it cashed, and I was very, very excited at the time. But yeah, pretty pretty amazing venue, one of uh the founding five venues of the USGA and an incredible setup. And it looks like the elements are gonna add to the battle that the players face this week. So it should be a very entertaining one and some decent carnage. You know, I'm always a fan of con uh golf contests that end either over par or right at it, and I think we probably should get that this week.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Definitely. What I love about US Open Week and a lot of the majors is that they have coverage all week. So starting yesterday, golf channel was like all interviews with people at the course, you know, broadcasters, but then they did a lot of talking with like the grounds crew and the the maintenance crew. And one of the guys said usually they have, I think, like 12 people on staff. And for this event, they have hired like 300 people for groundskeeping and maintenance just to make sure that it's in tip top shape, but in turn, making it very difficult. So it's just it's gonna be awesome. I've learned so much about the course and the history and the community around it and how it's it's on native, you know, reservation and all this stuff. It's it's fascinating. And they've really put in just so much effort to make this the most difficult test in golf for sure.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

That's incredible. With some of those battling elements, obviously, is the fescue, and we've seen images of it all week long, how tall it is, how hard it is to hit it out of it. There is some truth of like you can get a pretty decent line fescue, but you can also just be absolutely screwed. What you will be screwed at no matter what is some of that rough. That rough looks just as penal. So I think it's gonna be it's gonna be really challenging for the players who don't have that driving accuracy. I think I late made a lot of my decisions on on driving accuracy this week and it being just such an advantage. But then you also have to have the around the green, around the green game to go along with it because you're inevitably gonna miss some of these greens and it it's some hard work after that. So curious, where where'd you land on your three golfers this week?

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Yeah, I, you know, I really wanted to pick Brooks Kepka because he's won here before. And this is the type of course where experience matters, I think. And I when I was watching like the the broadcast from yesterday, they mentioned that Scotty has not didn't play here until like a couple weeks ago. And I'm like, hmm, that kind of concerns me. Not concerns me, more just like that's gonna be harder. Like he doesn't know the course, maybe like Rory or some of these other guys do. So I didn't pick Scotty. Um, I did pick Rory. I think he has the experience and knows the course to be able to play this type of golf. It's very much uh kind of Scotland style golf as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Yeah. So that plays into it for me. Yeah, it's very similar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Very similar.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Dunesland.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

So I have Rory, yeah, something like that. Also have John Rom. I just think he has been playing really good golf. And I think now that he knows his tenure at Live may be coming to an end, he might be putting in more of an effort to perform in these tournaments. I have no information on that. That is purely speculation, but that's my thought. And then last, and like can't believe I'm saying this, but Patrick Reed. He's done very, very well at a lot of the U.S. opens and hasn't quite tapped it off. But similarly, he has the experience. He he knows the course a little bit. And if there's somebody, I don't know. I'm just kind of going experience this week over everything. Okay, that's kind of my play.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Nice. I normally pick kind of like one stat or one thing, one kind of angle to dial in on, and then pick, you know, three golfers that fit it. This week I'm going three separate angles. Um, my first one is Russell Henley. I I think just driving accuracy is uh amazing. Um and then his approach game has been really great this season, has a has a win as well. Um so the confidence is there. I I think he could just like quiet, he's like, if he won it, it'd just be like a quiet victory, kind of like uh yeah, like right at even par every day kind of deal. And I could see that taking it home. The next one is Fitzpatrick. What a showing on Sunday. I mean, that I was gonna probably pick him before that Sunday, and then shooting that 64. I just feel like all right, he's really tapped in, he's in form again, and um, there's no grittier player. Like he he he he could really battle out some gritty golf, and I like that. And then just from a like last three or four starts form, I'm going Burns, which is not my normal thing. I I probably go entire seasons without picking Burns, but he's just playing too consistently good. So whether he wins it or is in the mix, I don't know, but I think he'll be up there. And you know, he's so even keel like Scotty. I I think he'll he'll just have that on his side this week. So those are my three for this week.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

I like those picks as well. I think you have good reasoning for all of them. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

Good. Well, I can't wait. Um it's gonna be a busy week for me. I'm up in Seattle for for the U.S. game on Friday and flying back down Saturday, gonna watch some golf in between there, and hopefully close it out on a good Father's Day on Sunday and watch watch some golf. And yeah, I know you're gonna be excited to celebrate your first Father's Day as well.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Yeah, I kind of didn't know that that was happening until you just said that. So now I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Jeez, you're in the thick of it. You must be in the thick of it with the the kid. All right, really am. Try to enjoy yourself Sunday. For sure. We have a guilty pleasure this week, and I just I hate myself for how badly I want this thing. I I truly I loathe myself for how badly I want this staff bag. And just saying the fact that I want a staff bag is horrible and disgusting. But damn, if I have not seen a better themed staff bag for a damn tournament that also speaks to my childhood, I wow, I mean, I want this thing. And I won't, uh you know what's funny? I I will get this thing and it'll sit in the garage for eternity because I would be way too embarrassed to bring that out anywhere.

unknown 16:42

But I want it.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

I really want it. I the tailor-made nautical themed Shinekock US open bag is one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

I mean, even if it just sits in your garage, you can look over at it from your desk and just let's art, feel happy. Yeah, it's art. And so I totally get it. And I think if you were to throw that over your shoulder right now, it would match perfectly with your shirt and your hat. So, like I don't know, we we gotta we gotta get you one. We gotta reach out to a rep and and see see what they're doing with those overstocks.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Well, I I happen to also know that your wife likes a good nautical stripe. So I mean, hey, she does if she wanted to get into the game of golf, that seems like the perfect staff bag for her as well.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Hey, she has a perfectly good set of yes Wilson clubs sitting right there that she's only used a few times, but she knows that she can pick them up anytime. And uh that's good. But you're right, I think it a nautical bag might be more convincing. Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Well, it it does look great. I like I said, guilty pleasure if I ever pull the trigger on one of those, but it it's all it's sweet. It and that the details on it, fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

I think the photo that they took as well is just perfect.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Sitting on the dock. Can you imagine how stupid that photo shoot is? Let's bring this golf bag to the marina and just put it on the dock. I mean, how stupid is that?

SPEAKER_01 18:03

I mean, have you ever hit balls into the water at the beach?

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Or it is yeah, it is a special feeling. I I did get those eco balls that dissolve so I didn't have to feel bad about it. Nice. Unlike uh, unlike LeBron, who's hitting you know shots off his it's probably eco balls. He's got the money to do it. Um, but yeah, that's a cool feeling.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Um the tower, the what is it, lighthouse in the back. They got the yacht, they got clearly a a planted rope uh tied to a cleat, and it just it looks great.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Uh yeah. I know it's gotta be like a thousand dollars, which just sucks. And then I it has the head cover that I need too, which is the old sailor. Oh, damn it.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

This is I think I think if if your pick hits, then you you're entitled to go purchase it. That's it. That's only fair.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

That's it. I'm going to up my bet on my three golfers, and if it hits, I'll get the back. That's it. I love doing stuff like that. Yep. Okay, perfect. That's perfect. Well, it's all a random Henley Fitzy and Burns.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Exactly. Let's let's let's pull for that. I would love that. That's incredible. This is so random, and I didn't add this to our notes here, but do you know anything about Cobra putters?

SPEAKER_00 19:17

No, I honestly. I I you know what's funny? I no, I I really don't. I I do love actually their dark, their uh dark speed, their dark speed's one of my favorite drivers. Their drivers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

So you know what's funny? Their putters are so different than the rest of any of the clubs that they make. And I'm like itching to go test out some of the new ones because they look so underrated. I really wanted one a couple years ago when they had they started like doing the 3D printing ones. They have this cool like stingray style one. But the thing that gets me, they have that the sick putter face, the Sik, where it's like the de lofting angled. The new ones that they've come out with look really slick and they look just like a uh like a spider tour. Okay. So I I don't have any information other than I've been looking at them and they're very moderately priced. And some of the YouTube reviews that I've looked at, people have really liked them. And I've been reading on Reddit and they're like, yeah, these are underrated clubs, and some like uh, you know, Clubhouse Pros and Golf Shop Pros have been like, yeah, we don't know why more people don't buy these, like they're amazing clubs. So you should check them out. I think I'm gonna go go pick one up, a used one, and try it out just because I I'm looking for something new and it it looks very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

You gotta make sure you get that Wilson Zero Torque Putter test in there as well.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

100%. That's that's number one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Good. All right, onto our first game of the day. So we were robbed of one of the best sports days ever this upcoming Friday. June 19th could have been the cut day at the US Open uh in Shitticock. It could have been USA versus Australia in Seattle in the World Cup, and it could have been game seven, Knicks versus Spurs. But unfortunately, it's not. But it does bring up the point what are some other great sports days that include golf? So I thought we would blind rank them today. We're gonna blind rank the best sports days ever that include golf. Are you ready? I like it. Let's do it. Okay. So we're gonna start off July 17th, 1994. Nick Price wins the open championship in Scotland, and it is the World Cup final in Los Angeles. Brazil beats Italy in LA. Wow. We got six today. We got six. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

I think it would have where's Nick Price from? Is he British or is he American?

SPEAKER_00 21:41

No, he is. Man, I knew you were gonna ask that, and I should know it. It is a crazy country. It's a crazy country.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Is he South African?

SPEAKER_00 21:49

No, Zimbabwean. Zimbabwean. Yep, Zimbabwean. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Dang. Because that that would have been cool maybe if he was if he was a Brazilian or something, but that's still very cool. I'll that out of out of four.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Okay. I like that. That's a great that's a great spot for it. Okay, four. We'll then go to Sunday, April 10th, 2016. The infamous Jordan Speeth Masters collapse. The Warriors chase 73rd win and the MLB and NHL are regular season are in full swing.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

I mean tough day for Jordan Speeth. Pretty cool, but I I'll I'll put it down a little further. I said four last I'll put it at five.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Okay. I do remember that moment when Steph, because they were both real good buds because the under armor connection, but Steph Curry saw Jordan Speith, or I think someone told him about Jordan Speeth's meltdown, like right during pregame and and uh Steph like I remember the video he like falls to the floor in just like agony because obviously he's a great golfer as well. Man. But yeah, I I remember that that was cool sports crossover. Um but good good place for it. Okay, here we go. Next one September 30th 2012 the Miracle at Medina you got NFL full slate sundae and MLB playoff race in full swing.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Cool. I feel like there's some other good ones that I'm gonna save for so I'll put that at the bottom at six.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Good I was testing you you've plasted with flying colors. I kind of loaded the back end but no you're good. Okay so we got the first we got the top three spots for the last three days. Here we go. Here's some of the heavy stuff June 15th 2008 tiger versus Rocco media playoff Celtics Lakers game five and the European tournament is in full swing.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Man so Tiger versus Rocco playoff like the 18 hole playoff on that Monday. That he had to hit the butt and 18 to to force yeah and then he limped around the the course for the next four hours wow that's up there that's one or two I'm gonna put that in number two.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Okay save some space for some good stuff. Yeah okay um on July 14th 2019 uh we had a just a crazy c like microcosm of sports things going on it wasn't like one particular thing but we had Wimbledon we had the cricket world cup which I think featured I think it was either the UK and Pakistan or UK and India but it was a big one uh F1 race I believe at Silverstone and then you had the you had the US open going on. Wow I I like that because that's just such a variety yeah that's pretty cool all right I'm gonna save my number one spot but I think that fits well at number three overall nice you've never done this before left the last one to to number one spot I'm gambling it's you're lucky it's a great one okay this is the turning of the tide this is June 17th 1962 Jack Neglas beats Arnie in an 18 hole playoff to win the US Open. Yeah while that was going on the World Cup final for Brazil in Chile when they defeat I can't remember who they defeated but no Czechoslovakia but yeah pretty pretty insane day and especially on the golf side that's where number one uh deserves to be too I think perfect well an incredible one maybe we'll get something special this year in July with the open and the World Cup final. Maybe we'll get some something special that would be really cool.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

And you know what would be really awesome is if it goes to a playoff and the two people in the playoff are representing one country that are playing each other's how cool would that be just putting it out there you're manifesting it.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

I love it. Manifesting it yep like it sounds good. All right well moving on there are always a bunch of juicy storylines going into a major I thought it'd be fun way to do it and talk about it by let's blind rank these top storylines headed into this week. Awesome. Yep love it. All right there's eight storylines this time we got Shinnokok returns as the single greatest U.S.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

open venue I mean I think that's up there. Like it's it's proving to be that's the talk is of how difficult this is going to be like sure we can have another U.S. open at Pebble Beach but we know what we're getting ourselves into. Like it it we know what the conditions are going to be like so I I I'll put this at three I I think it's up there. Hi. Okay nice I like it.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

Adam Scott chases Jack Nicholas's major longevity record.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Yeah I mean the this is such an underrated stat that I don't what what is it at now? Like a hundred and something like yeah that's crazy. No nobody what that speaks to is how consistently somebody has played over their entire career. Like that's meanwhile how many guys big names were trying to Monday qualify last week you know it's just it's amazing. I'll put that at four I like that. Scotty Scheffler chases the career grand slam. You know what's so funny? I feel like this isn't really being talked about because I don't think I don't think people will don't think it'll happen. I don't think it'll happen. I don't think people think it's going to happen. He's just not Scotty as people are saying so there's not a lot of talk into it. The one thing I did see is like it lists all the people with the career grand slams how many attempts it took for them to get there and you know it's like one one one three and then like 17 for Rory or whatever it was. I think it's gonna be at least another year before Scotty takes this. So I'm actually going to put this down probably number seven I just don't yeah that's fair. I don't think I don't think people are too into it yet. I'm gonna put my foot in my mouth when he wins on on Monday.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

We always I mean we always are for sure. Yeah all right the other counterpart Rory McElroy looks to keep his major momentum alive.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

I mean I I think it's a possibility he does. I don't think people are too talking about this much either.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

I think they should because if he goes on a run for a while he can get closer to that number of majors you know I just don't know I don't know I'll put it at six it's important yeah yeah that that makes total sense I like again I don't think it's necessarily Rory's week but he has nothing to prove anymore. So it's like whether he does or doesn't it's not going to be that big a heck Wyndham proudly dons the new villain mask and is ready to capture a second US Open.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

I think this would be a big deal if he were to do this because it feels like every tournament in the last few weeks he's knocking on the door and you know he's ready to stomp on some throats. So I I think this is going to be interesting. I'll put it at number two it's up there.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Yeah he's my favorite person to hate and love right now. Yeah I've been probably doing more hating than loving recently but when he put on that USA jerse or the Jack Hughes USA jersey on on a golf course during competition that's some in a in front of a stadium or a Canadian crowd in Canada. Yeah's man I don't yeah I'm sure he got very much in trouble for that uh yeah but that is pretty badass. So gotta give it to him.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

If that was me I would have put on a maple leafs jersey 100% no that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Bryson gets it back on track with this U.S. Open.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

I mean we'll see I think a lot of people are curious about it because you know he just talks such a big game like going into the masters he's like yeah I'm feeling good I'm feeling great and then he just is nowhere to be seen and he misses the cut. I don't think he's gonna get it back on track. So I don't know I don't know I'll put I'll I'm gonna put it I think I think it's I don't know it it it has me thinking.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

So I'll put it at five I okay the only thing I will say is either way this actually should be pretty news ending the week. If he misses a cut it's Bryson's the worst ever he's never gonna get it back. If he does great it's gonna be like he's silencing the hater so either way it's actually going to work out as a pretty big storyline. JJ Spawn defends his US open title does anyone remember that he's defending his title they're not actually I sure do I love JJ Spawn.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

You know but I I think you're right. A lot of people are like who's JJ Spawn I'm like oh man like he I I think he could he's still playing really good golf. I don't think it's the number one storyline. So unfortunately I think I'll put that down at the bottom uh because I think I only have one and eight left but you and everybody else yeah yeah it's probably what everybody's thinking anyway.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Yeah um all right you this is the second time with blind rankings so number one going up is the topic of Brooks Kepka and can he get back into major contention which is a great one.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Which is I maybe it deserves a number one spot but uh it's definitely a topic of conversation. It sounds like the stuff he's dealing with is not great and this is not things that are going to be fixed overnight. No. It seems like it could be a little more chronic I hate to say I hope it's not that way but we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Yeah anytime you're complaining about not being able to grip the club like you want that's that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

But hopefully he gets it back on track. He's a tough player tough person. Um if anyone can grit through it and still be competitive it's probably him and he loves this place. So he's defending it from uh last time it was here standpoint. Yep. All right well brings me to my next question which is golf the greatest father-son sport ever? Probably you know I can't think of anything better. Yeah I mean honestly it's it's almost synonymous just the way you have to pass the game on I just feel like it for sure has that spot unlocked.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Well yeah I am like one of my favorite memories growing up playing golf was my dad and I playing in like a father-son tournament and we're on the last hole and he chipped it in like to make birdie and I think we got third place. One of my I think the trophy's here somewhere actually I still have it but I'm like that's such a cool moment to to share that with your dad. So yeah it's pretty fun.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

For sure. Okay cool. Well that's gonna be the topic of our game today.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

We're gonna draft the top six so three a piece top six father-son moments in golf nice there's a lot of them yes there are I'll let you go first okay so thinking about this one I've seen the Tiger documentary several times I like all the history it and it's it's just a very heartfelt emotional you know documentary. One of my favorite moments is reminds me of the 2006 open after Earl died and Tiger still pulled it off and won and he goes in to hug uh Steve Williams and just kind of lets it all go. And it's just you know heartbreaking heartwarming in another way and then he's he's talked about that moment saying like he just felt completely like at peace on the golf course. And there's just something very emotional and kind of spiritual about that. So that was a really cool moment.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

I love that you picked that one there's a lot of good tiger ones out here and I'm sure we'll get to some more but um that's a great one. I'm gonna go with one that doesn't get talked about that much but I just think the evolution of seeing that you something you love and then your your son going on to just do it one better and just kind of evolve past you, I think is is so special. So I'm gonna go Justin Thomas wins the 2017 PGA championship his first major with his dad Mike who was a PGA pro his entire life taught him the game I'm even getting emotional talking about this is ridiculous. Being a PGA pro his entire life and then watching his son take home a major championship on unreal scenes.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

Such a cool connection yeah that's a great one and you know not maybe earlier in their career guys get to have that opportunity to have their dad on the bag and to be able to do that so early in your career and have him on there is just you're not gonna get moments like that ever again. Like that's really awesome. All right you're up yeah so um this other one this was more recent I think okay I might be stealing one of yours go go yeah so the PNC championship we always get to see father son duos and Bernhard Langer is one of my favorite golfers as well and I think he's won a couple times with his son who his son is still pretty young I think I I can't remember but just the generation of high quality golf is so cool. And you know Bernhard Langer I don't think is going to be playing much at all anymore. I think he played his last masters last year. I'm kind of winding it down but to be able to still do stuff like that that is new is so awesome. So yeah that's a big one for me. Really cool.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Yeah in that same vein the uh it won't be a separate one but just the fact that him and his son competed against Tiger and his son in the same PNC championship I just think that's cool as well. But yeah Bernard Langer came on top the Langers came out on top of the woods on that championship. So pretty cool. Yeah all right I'm gonna get my Tiger one full circle moment you could almost clip the the the two together and it it's just an incredible full circle like there's no way this happens kind of moment of you know Tiger winning in 2019 and and Charlie being old enough to run out and and give him a hug the way Earl did so many of the times before. Just I mean just absolute scenes. Yeah and yeah pretty special pretty special moment.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

Yeah I love the part in the documentary where they show that and they do a short quick flashback to Earl hugging him off after the 99 1997 masters and just like wow like it just what an incredible synchronous moment there really yeah unbelievable. So similarly I'm gonna I'm gonna throw one more tiger in there. Yeah Tiger in Charlie Woods also at the PNC when Charlie made his hole in one with Tiger right there. Like that's awesome. You know when I got my hole in one I was with other junior golfers and that was about it. Like I didn't really get any of my other friends or my parents to see it. But to be competing with him and get to see that that's pretty cool. I love that I think Tyler Tiger comes up and just shoves him you know did the dad like shove like oh come on man really so yeah really cool to to catch that first ace.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Absolutely I'm gonna do another one similar so I'm gonna go Jack Nicholas wins 1986 masters with his son Jackie on the bag. I just think you talk about playing a sport that you can you know still do at an age when with your kids and just allow them to see your greatness I mean I can't even imagine the feeling of of being on your dad's bag and he's winning the masters it's just gotta be so surreal to to just know that everyone talks about you know your your dad as the the hero and just like a godlike figure. But then to just be right alongside him doing it seeing it being a part of it just such a cool thing and I'm sure it just made it that much more special for Jack as well. But uh in incredible that that even happened.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Yeah it's truly a seat that none of us will get to sit in and experience and the fact that that how unique it is can only exist in that scenario is just it's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

Well that wraps up a really good father-son draft I there's so many more even past these six but um great ones to take on this week and happy father's day to to all those out there definitely all right you got the last game of the night you wrap us up yeah so we got one more so this is one of our truth or bad lie games and I thought we'd do some facts about the U.S.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Open because it's got a storied history and there's a lot of info on it. So we got some truths we got some lies you got to tell me if it's a truth or a lie. All right let's do it. All right so there's eight. The first one the original U.S. open trophy was destroyed when the winner brought it home to his home course and the clubhouse burned down destroying it in the process.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

I'll go true. It sounds crazy enough to be true.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

That is true. In 1946 Lloyd Mangrim took the trophy to his home course to put it on display and it tragically was lost in the fire when the Tam OShanter Clubhouse which is brilliant clubhouse name but since then there is a new trophy and that is the one that is still in production today. Nice. So nice one for one all right the next one the highest round recorded in US open history this is one round 18 holes was 157 strokes.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

I'm gonna believe in the the the quality of a professional golfer and I'm gonna say that's false.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

That is unfortunately true. It was a long time ago I just I accidentally closed that one tab but it was JD Tucker's opening 157 that is the highest round ever shot in a US open and looks like 1974.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

Man I mean I I mean in what world was he just blackout drunk out on the golf course?

SPEAKER_01 38:55

That's oh I'm sorry was this was the first time it was 72 holes and it was in 1898. Wow that's incredible so yeah rough rough show okay all right next one all right next one okay so kind of similar in 1989 U.S. open winner Curtis Strange took the trophy to a bar after his win and lost it for approximately two hours when a crazed fan put it on top of the toilet in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

Okay crazy details to not be true.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

Let's let's fire off another true that's unfortunately a lie I totally made that up but I thought it was a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

Yes you're good.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Thought that would be a great story. Okay so I got you on that one. Next one Sam Sneed made the cut in 1973 at Oakmont when he was 61 years old.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Sam Sneed was one of the best do it I gotta believe and he did it. So I'm gonna go true.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

That is true at 61 years old at Oakmont like that to me is incredible. You know how many probably like 25 year old dudes just got destroyed that week and they're being lapped by Sam Sneed at 61 pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

I feel like Freddie does it almost at every master's these these days I I feel I know he's not quite 61 but um yeah I mean it it is incredible. Hey Bernard Langard was doing it a couple years ago at 61 for sure. So yep that's that's incredible though.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

100% all right next one the longest par three in US open history was 300 yards also at Oakmont's eighth hole.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Yeah I know that one can play 260 I don't know why it would have played 300 I don't know why they would have set it up at 300 but I'm I'll go true.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

I'll go true I'm a believer it is true and apparently in in subs in tournaments since then not necessarily US open can even play a couple yards longer. So 300 yard three good luck like that's that's impressive. Yeah so pretty devastating yeah okay this one at the 2010 US Open at Pebble Beach Dustin Johnson hooked his drive on the 18th hole striking the boat of the Adidas CEO his main sponsor of that week I know he had trouble at the 2010 US Open, but I do not think it struck the CEO's of Adidas's boat.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

So I'm gonna go false.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

That is false but how funny would that be if you destroy your sponsor's boat? I think that's hilarious. That's a good detail I like it. Yeah okay next one in the 1974 U.S. Open at Wingedfoot a fan accidentally stepped on a ball hit by Hale Irwin in which he had to take an unplayable and lost the US Open by one stroke.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

Oh my gosh if we didn't include this on the worst cla or worst you know losses of all time that's a disrespect. This is crazy. No I can't I can't I'll go false.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

It is unfortunately false but how devastating would that also be but in in this one I was reading that the fescue and the rough was some of the most difficult that of that has ever been played and that in practice rounds guys would just lose their balls because there wasn't really anybody you know necessarily looking out for them in the practice rounds and it it really put a damper on guys' confidence that week. So must have been a pretty difficult U.S. open definitely all right so well done this last one in the 1955 US Open broadcasters declared Ben Hogan the winner and ended the broadcast early only for Jack Fleck to beat him in a playoff after a strong back nine the following day. That's funny I I could see how that would happen. I'll go true. That is true. This was the first time that they had actually broadcast the US Open and thought let's wrap it up this is Ben Hogan's tournament. It's done and then Jack Fleck just rallied and I can't remember if if it was a playoff the same day or the day after but he ended up beating Ben Hogan after the broadcast had already said like congratulations Ben Hogan.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Unbelievable that's incredible I I I need to see an interview of Jack Fleck from or not say I don't know written interview I don't know but I that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Yeah could you imagine like we were watching the US Open on Sunday and they ended at 6 p.m and we're like a way to go Scotty Scheffler wake up and Bryson won like who knows crazy. Yeah well well done I think I only got you on one of them.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

Yeah those were good though those were sneakily done that was those were great. Yeah awesome all right well that's gonna do it for us and uh hopefully we have an incredible US open and an incredible Father's day but thank you for joining and see you next time