EP.10 90'S NOSTALGIA

In this episode we talk about 90's nostalgia.

Big love, Shane, Liam & Liam

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Yes, guys, and welcome back. This week we're gonna be taking it back. We're gonna be speaking about nostalgia, about all the foods that we used to love and all them good times. So back we was raised. Born in the 80s, raised in the 90s. Raised in the 90s. So let's take it back and see what you can remember.

SPEAKER_05 0:18

It was a fucking different world back then, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Mate.

SPEAKER_05 0:21

The internet wasn't well, it was kind of a thing. Very, very slow thing. Do you remember that shit?

SPEAKER_03 0:27

Windows 98. You used to race home. It's like MSN message. I'll never forget. It's like it was that dial the connection, and when it didn't go when it didn't go through, you'd be like, fuck.

SPEAKER_05 0:40

It was either use the phone or use the internet, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 0:43

But it'd go, you dial you'd dial it and do the tone, and then it'd go, You used to have a lead from the back of your computer, or they used to run down your stairs, down into your down into your telephone. Or your mum would be speaking to your auntie, you're like, Mum, I need to get an almost anything you need to read, quick. Or after six o'clock, it was free, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:00

Can you remember my computer at my old house? Yeah, yeah. So my old computer, like we I don't know what happened, but we didn't look after things best. I don't know what it was, a dog or whatever it was, but but um the front of the computer came off. So the way we had to the way we had to start our computer was literally hotwire it. It was the key.

SPEAKER_05 1:19

Put two wires together, two wires.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

So the button, the front came off the front of the um the is it the modem thing? The tower. So the tower. So the front came off and there was literally no button on it, and there was just there was literally just the wires came in out come out, so we'd have to touch them together to start it. Honestly, I was like, this is gangster. People don't even know about towers now.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

So it's all laptops in it, iPads. It's crazy, isn't it? None of that no more. We used to fight for it. I mean the sisters. I just think there was three of or three older sisters, aren't there? One computer.

SPEAKER_05 1:48

You have to have one, you have your time slot on the computer. Or remember going to the fucking library to use a computer for an hour slot.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

You got an hour slot, you've used to pay, didn't you? They used to be what would they used to be called 'em. Um CyberCAFs. Yeah. CyberCaffs, CyberCaff. You pay an hour so you go and play games, and then your hours would be like chucking like three quid an hour or something.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Or having to phone your friend and having to phone them and maybe speak to their parents before you speak to them. And then there'll be there'll be a phone upstairs and your sister could be listening in, or your parents could be listening in fucking.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Yeah, what nine five two one six five six? That's gone as number for primary school, that is. I don't even know how I remember that, Brand.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

953659. I can't remember. I loads of different numbers. But um, yeah, we'll be remembered as a three-way calls. Used to get three-way calls, you'd call a call one of the girls or whatever, and then you'd redial, phone down, type the number, redial three, I think it was. And then you'd all be on the phone. And then you'd be chatting away. I'll never forget as well as a girl. When we used to get back from school, I'd always had a prank call when I got home from secondary school, like year seven or year eight or whatever. And I'd get like a callback situation. And I'd be like, I know someone's pranking me. So I'd reverse uh redial the one four seven more seven. The same number came up every time, and I knew who it was straight away, and it was a girl from school. So then we used to end up ringing back and talking for ages. And I remember my mum would watch Telly and sit on the sofa in front, and I'd sit behind the TV with the cord, talking for ages, talking rubbish.

SPEAKER_05 3:28

It was oh the days were it's a different world, it's like these days, kids, everybody's got a phone, you're all connected in a way, but then real connections taken out of the equation. Yeah. Do you remember if you guys wanted to hang out? You'd have to go knock on your fucking door. Knock at all. You're playing out, mate. Do you want to come play football? Let's roam the streets, let's climb fucking trees. I know that sounds a bit silly, but that was the kind of things we did. We were active, we was out doing shit. Whereas nowadays people are being social on Call of Duty or on fucking Instagram or whatever that may be. It's it's very different, it's good, but then it had it has its kind of bad connotations, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Yeah, obviously, there's a lot of plus sides to social media.

SPEAKER_05 4:08

Like it's being able to start a business from your phone.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Yeah, I've started my business through that. It's it's one of them, but I think the positives of growing up in the 90s was we actually socialised. We actually went, we actually went outdoors. We played hide and seek. Do you know what I mean? You'd be I was allowed to play out until like as soon as the streetlights come on, you'd better hope that you're home, otherwise you're grounded, mate.

SPEAKER_03 4:30

I I was always one for that. I'd get get ground from your bombing home. I'd be back out the next week.

SPEAKER_05 4:35

Yeah, you'd you'd do your mum's heading to the point where you'd just fucking go out.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

You'd have your phone or your watch and your daddy'd be like, Your dinner's ready at half. This would be a Sunday. You'd your dinner's ready at half one if you're not back, and you'd be like, get to 15 minutes and you're 20 minutes away, you're legging it, mate.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

You're home. I never forget as well. There's one one time when I was uh when I was younger and I just got this brand new coat. We didn't have a lot growing up, so my mum bought us this coat, it was quite expensive at the time. And um it was I never forget, I think it was Michigan. Michigan Michigan. And um and it was like blue at the bottom, a bit of a puffer jacket, but it had yellow at the top. Kids are probably rocking them again now, they're quite sick again.

SPEAKER_05 5:14

A bit like a show jacket, kind of.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

Yeah, well it was quite it was quite cool, but it was cool. Anyway, I went out and I wore this brand new jacket, thinking I was dead cool. But we decided, remember around the corner there was a White House. Yeah. The White House ended up being abandoned for a while, and the top of this, there was a big white wall round the edge of it. Yeah. Um, and at the top of it, it had the old, I don't know if you remember this, but it had the old sort of like cement with glass, well like cemented in. She had this glass sticking on. I mean, you wouldn't be able to do that nowadays, so nobody would climb over because it was a little bit of glass sticking on the wall, and it'd have it had vandal grease on it as well. Vandal grease on it. It was all all black vandal grease and the glass. And uh, I decided to climb up it in my brand new coat. Went home with rips in my coat, vandal grease all over it. It's brand new. Mum couldn't afford anything, and and she lost her shit. And I mate just like You'd have been better off leaving it and saying I've left it somewhere. I lost it. It was awful. But that's but that's kids, like kids just literally shit happens, mate, isn't it? It's not like they're thinking, oh, I'm gonna go out and fuck this coat up. It was just uh you you don't you don't really think through the situation before you've done it. And I got back and I was I ended up being really upset because obviously I I got a paste in, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Um but yeah, it was uh thing is that you're fearless as a kid as well, like you're climbing up everything. I can be like climbing on top of school job. I mean, running, jumping, climbing up on the roof, then jumping back off the roof. But if you jumped off a school roof, not school jump.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

Your legs would be gone. How easy was that to climb school side? You had like the ledge on the window and then onto the next door.

SPEAKER_05 6:48

They made it so you could climb.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Yeah, yeah. And then onto the flat roof. We used to get chased by all the what's it? But yeah, takers. Yeah, good times, man. We we used to go around and play football for ages using jumpers of goal posts. Jumpers for goalposts. Sliding in dog shape.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

We built goalposts as kids as well. Really? Yeah, so we there was a because mine was a new estate, like around the side, all like the old, no, like the plumbing gear. Yeah. So all like your waist pipes. So we got all the waste, we got we dug a waste pipe in, we've got a 90, come across of another waste pipe, down, drilled the back, pulled some wood out of the back. Like as a fucking kid. As a kid, yeah, sick. And then my uncle, my uncle Base, he worked at Rolls Royce, so we managed to get this net in. So we pinned it, mate. It was like Wembley goals, like it was the goal. Mate, it was sick. As soon as you hit the net, it was like pimp pimp, like sick what we did.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

But yeah. I'm just so grateful. So grateful that I was able to grow up in that sort of era of yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:45

Being able to see the transition from no technology to technology as well has been really good because it's not like we were that generation that was left behind when we don't know how to use social media, we don't know how to use our phones. We've gone from having nothing to having almost everything. And obviously, there's a big gap between children these days that know how to use everything like that. And we can still be a bit slow to catch up, but we're in that generation where we're able to transition through it and utilize it efficiently.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

Yeah, we've been able to grow with it, haven't we? Yeah. But I just I just feel like the connection's a little bit lost now. I think everything's everything's forced, everything's um, there's there's no real connection anymore. It's like having to having to face as a child or growing up in in as a teenager, there's no real connection, there's no way to learn by or build confidence with having face to children's.

SPEAKER_05 8:37

Remember being a kid at school and having to go and tell a girl that you're fancy her or ask her out. That don't happen anymore. I used to get the end to that, couldn't you?

SPEAKER_04 8:47

My friend over there fancies you like thinking you're gonna go to the bottom.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

You're swiping, you're swiping left or right. That's that's the thing now, and that's that's the problem. And then also as well, you're not really seeing the real you might not be seeing the real person because it could be a catfish, it could be a catfish, it could be somebody who's dressing up or making themselves look nicer than they actually are, or whatever. There's no real spontaneous sort of feeling anymore. Like, I mean, I we've all done it. I think I might have spoken spoke about it on a on a podcast before on the podcast before, but what about when you used to text you only had credit, but you'd text a you text a girl and you'd be like, I'll meet you tomorrow, and then you've got to turn up at that spot and waiting. She might not have any credit to text.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

The thing is though, back then there was no blue ticks, you didn't know if she'd read it or not. So you're hoping she's read it. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 9:38

And then you get there and she might not turn up and you think, fuck, she might not like me, but then you might bump into her and she told you you hadn't she had no credit, and then you think different situation, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:47

It's there's just like you're actually dealing with rejection real time, or you're not. Whereas these days it's even worse because you could just get blanked on a message, and then you feel like that's rejection, but is it or is face-to-face rejection even worse because it feels more character?

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Of course it is, you've got a meet in person, and like you said, like everyone's everyone edits the photos now as well. Yeah. So it's seeing seeing everybody in the world.

SPEAKER_05 10:12

You can put yourself forward so much better these days than you used to be able to.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

I remember when we used to go to the was it Rolls Royce Disco. Rolls Royce. Rolls Royce Disco Disco every Friday. Every Friday night, wasn't it? And you used to like you you'd wait till the end of the night until I think I had my first kiss actually. It was and I'd I'd tell you this story actually, because my first ever kiss, and the reason why I remember it so well is because we went to Rolls Royce Disco, and um and it was it was brilliant. It was like a really good night, but it was when didn't we get to the end of the night and you're all like hanging around thinking, Yes, is this my buying somebody up all night? Yes, is this my own? I think it was the transition between year six and year seven, and it was the holidays disco, so it was disco between. And I literally, then the night had finished. I'd walk uh I ended up buying a bag of cheese cheese and onion crisps, and I'd ate the whole bag of cheese and onion crisps, didn't even think about it, think about it, and then randomly this pretty girl says, uh, I think she asked one of my mates, oh my mate, oh her mate came over to me and says, Oh, we will you will you get off with my mate? Get off. Will you get off? Get off, you get off with it.

SPEAKER_05 11:18

Even a little snug, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

And um, and I was like, Yeah, but I've just eaten a bag of cheese and onion crisps, and she was like, Oh, she don't care, she don't care.

SPEAKER_05 11:26

That's her favourite flavour, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

Anyway, I ended up walking over and I had my first proper kiss, and uh and I was like, This is great, I was a great feeling, and then I started to walk off, like all like shy and everything, and she went, all I heard was, oh cheese and onion. And I was like, but I I ran off and I was buzzing, and that's when I was with Kieran and I think it was my cousin Joe, and we literally ran across the field, and like I think like I was celebrating, like doing a little might be joking, like doing a little call. Sliding on your knees and stuff doing a little cartwheel and that and I and I did a cartwheel. Next minute I see Kieran come and do a turnover triple back flip somersault, and I was like, what the fuck? Didn't even know he ended up he was ex-Great Britain gymnast. Is that Kieran Anderson? I was doing a little I was doing a little flip and he came and did this, and I was like, I was like, bro, where'd that come from? And he was like, he says, Yeah, yeah. I'd used to do gymnastics. Little gymnasts, yeah. But yeah, that's my that's my little uh that's mad. What about yours? When was your first first kiss?

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Was I think we went to Watermeaders?

SPEAKER_03 12:34

I was with you on my phone.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

Neil Rossco, yeah. Yeah, and I was like, I was a I was just a I was a proper little kid when I didn't grow up.

SPEAKER_03 12:43

When the waves were on down that little side bit, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Mate, yeah, because you used to have the wave pool at Watermadders you've ever been. And then you two had like we'd come down the slides and you two had dipped off somewhere, and I'm like walking around on my own. Next thing you've pulled this little blonde chick over to me. You get off my mate. I mean it's his birthday, mate. Matt. First snug just thing, you feel like the man, don't you?

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Yeah, you do. I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

I can actually see that the little woody in your shorts, and you just had to like had to swim off underwater. No, I'm not in my little trunk, spot.

SPEAKER_05 13:15

So when I was at primary school, we had this thing called the nature corner, and obviously, you know, it was all built to have little ponds in and stuff like that. So you'd get a girlfriend at school, you know, you want to be my girlfriend? Yeah. We'll go to the nature corner and have a little snob. That was it for me.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

The nature corner. The nature corner.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

I think at one point I had like two or three different girlfriends who was just quite common. Nobody was really bothered. It's like, you're my girlfriend, you're my girlfriend. Should we go for a snug? Should we go for a kiss?

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Primary school or secondary school. This was primary school. Primary school.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

I was 13 when I kissed my first girl.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

Yeah, Jim rolls in with a leaf on his private. This is nature time.

SPEAKER_05 13:50

Some little wings on my back. Yeah, yeah, primary school.

unknown 13:54

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Nature corner. Oh man, yeah, there were the times that Rolls Royce discos on a and going on there and playing football. There was always nets on there, wasn't there? Yeah, yeah. Um that's where I first started football, actually, in the corner with Daryl Claypole. Yeah, yeah. And there was in the corner, he had like a little um a court. That's where I first started football. It was quite late, about nine, I think I was, because it was early, weren't you? I was talking about that the day, weren't we?

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Yeah, I was I started at six, six years old. I was yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:19

What playing for like a playing for a team?

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Mate, he was unreal. I was sick till I was about ten, and then everyone grew, and I was just a little boy. It's weird because he was like a man, wasn't you, like 10 years old.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Yeah, everybody everybody was shot past Maca, and then as soon as we left school like a shot up. Yeah, he just ended up just kept.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Everyone thought because I started a gym there, it made me grow taller. But I was just I didn't get an armpit. And what exercise was that? I got my first armpit here, bro, when I was 18 or 19. These men was like men at 12, and I was like getting changed in the change room like it was mad. Like some of the lads used to play against those like men like Psycho for Clifton. He was unreal. He was a great player, great player, but he was like a little man at like 12 years old. It was like Skulls, yeah. Little Skullsy, yeah, he was a great player. Some great players at our age, weren't they?

SPEAKER_03 15:06

Yeah. Do you know what? I've luckily enough I had a I got into football late, and the the friends that I've met through football and the times that I've had are brilliant. Obviously, growing up going to America and playing for Knots, representing county and stuff like that. And then school, we we won everything with some of our school. Dominated in school. Great team. We won at the North County ground, we won at the Not at the Forest Ground twice. Um yeah, we we smashed it.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

We won everything from year seven, from like the start of secondary all the way till year 11, wasn't it? Did we get to the national thing year 11? We lost in the semifinal, didn't we? Something like that, yeah. But we're not we'd not lost the game for like four or five, four and a half years, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 15:49

Yeah, it was something crazy like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

As soon as you got to 16, everyone started like drinking, girls, dropping off, everyone started dropping off football, and that's when we got to find out. From like from the age of 11 through to like 15 was unbelievable, weren't we?

SPEAKER_03 16:02

Yeah. What was your thing?

SPEAKER_05 16:04

What did you so I did play football when I was younger?

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Did you?

SPEAKER_05 16:07

You did, but yeah, we did play football, but I didn't I didn't have glasses or contacts, like we didn't know my vision was fucked, it didn't get picked up until I was like maybe 10-11 years old.

SPEAKER_06 16:17

Scoring in the ball.

SPEAKER_05 16:17

So I couldn't see the ball, bro. I'm playing football blind, so I was shitty.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Playing football with three balls on the pillars, and because of that, I didn't enjoy it.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

Yeah, because I wasn't very good, I couldn't see the ball, I didn't enjoy it. Then when I got a little bit older, it was kickboxing.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

I was gonna say you you're more combat, you're more combat, aren't you?

SPEAKER_05 16:35

And that I enjoyed because I was good at it. So that was something that I kind of delved into at all.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

You used to take us sparring and just kick our heads in. We used to love it. It's like, yeah, we'll just spar, we'll just take it like bop, bop, pop, and we'll just use this as a pushback to a discourse.

SPEAKER_05 16:50

You find that most people though aren't conditioned to getting hit. No, but most people aren't used to somebody trying to hit you. So you're just gonna look at the floor, you're gonna look away. I think it's important to be confident when somebody's putting their hands towards you to be like, actually, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look what you're doing, and I'm gonna be able to do something about it. So, yeah, spiral's gonna be the best way to.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I think to learn that from a young age as well is mega. So I want to get my little one into that from it.

SPEAKER_05 17:15

I want him to do something, not because I want him to fight, because I want him to feel confident if somebody puts him in a situation where they try and put their hands on him and he'll be like, actually, I know what to do. And you're probably gonna be less likely to be the type of person who wants to fight because you're confident.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

I was gonna touch up on this. I think the people that we used to roll with back in the day, if you go to town or whatever, the lads that could fight were never the lads that fought because they didn't have to. They never started fights. They didn't have to, they never started fights, but they'd you just know not to. It's just that presence, you know when somebody can and can't fight.

SPEAKER_05 17:45

If they're gonna tell you it's usually people that are unconfident that get pissed up and somebody says something and then yeah, and the hands are down that you'll fucking prick or knock you out. You can tell.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

Yeah, yeah. Talk is cheap.

SPEAKER_05 17:56

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

What questions have we got, bro?

SPEAKER_00 18:00

You've got a little plan, haven't you, today?

SPEAKER_03 18:01

I've got a little plan, yeah. Well, obviously touching base on nostalgia.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

I think nostalgia is a word, it's just incredible. Like it's what brings you back to certain things.

SPEAKER_05 18:11

You think of taste, films, TV shows, everything.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

TV for me in the morning, what I can first remember. It'd be a Saturday morning, I'd go down, I'd be that excited to play football, I'd go down, my mum and dad would have my kit out for me. I'd have my I wouldn't be playing till 10 o'clock, I'd be down at like six in the morning with my shin pads on, full kit on, ready to go. But they'd still be in bed when mum and dad I'd put the telly on, your big, your big, big widescreen, probably about what, 20-inch TV or something. I had five channels, but you used to put channel four on. Do you remember the Italian football that was on first thing in the morning?

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

It was like goalazio. Yeah, where it's like go Lazio, and I used to sit and watch Italian football, didn't have a clue what was going on, but just love watching any sort of football. So that was me on a Saturday morning. Live and kicking, cat nealy, yeah. It was cat nealy, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 18:56

Yeah, I remember Hey Arnold. Hey Arnold, hey Arthur Head. I watched look funny.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

I watched Hey Arnold the video, I don't tell you. He was on YouTube because I was putting like loads of old school cartoons on and that Hey Arnold was on. Hey Football Head.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

Remember football head. Remember that guy. The guy that used to come behind her, and uh she used to go the geek you are, and then she just cast me and break his glasses.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Brilliant. What was his mate's name? Was it Gus? I can't remember. I can't remember, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 19:30

It was classic, right? Let's go let's go back to primary school because primary schools obviously there's there's so many different times from primary school as that that really takes me back to my childhood, like school dinners. That's where we started school dinners. Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

That was uh that was always uh or sitting down on the floor in assembly, yeah, cross-legged on the fucking floor, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:56

Couldn't imagine that now singing, remember singing on a Monday?

SPEAKER_02 20:00

What's his name? Steve Steve. No, mist uh Mr. Smith. Mr.

SPEAKER_05 20:03

Smith, they'd have you singing like Christian songs and stuff with all give me joy in my life. Keep me on line of mine.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

Yeah, we've got them. And I'm guessing that they still do that now. You got Winnie. Remember Winnie? What was the one? She was about 105, he used to come in and play the piano for us. Yeah, I remember her. What about Mr. Doran? He um he sang one of his uh Jewish songs. Shalom my friend!

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Shalom my friend, shalom.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

Gloria That was a banger, mate. What a banger that is. Yeah, there's some there's some some great moments. But I mean I never forget as well, around Christmas time, and there was a a post Christmas post box, and there was always times where I think it was really, really good, but it was quite bad at the same time because if you didn't get a Christmas card, you'd be guttered. Oh, you'd be the one sat there, like it kind of it's kind of a popularity test. If you're popular, people like the most cards. And I was I I was always the person that I did alright, but not as well as I thought I would. Not as well as I didn't do it as well as I thought I would, but and I always remember as well, and they would not do this now, and this is what I mean about taking yourself back. They used to have Christmas dinner at school, and they used to put the Christmas puddings on the table and they'd light it and it would set on fire. And do you know what I mean? They used to put pound pound coins, pound coins inside the Christmas pudding. That's a good look. Imagine eating swallowing a pound coin.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Yeah, but a pound coin is worth what 50 quid now.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

Can you remember that? Yeah, yeah. We did it last year. There's just little things that that they do they did back then that just a little bit. They never even do anyhow. Because everything's just health and safety sort of times change, don't they? They do. Um, but yeah, school for me was I loved school, kids, especially primary school. That's what really helped us learn. And grow up and and now now seeing my son who's in reception now, seeing him grow up and come back and and uh see the different type of healing.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Yeah. Will he be doing his first nativity this year? He missed it. Did uh he missed it because he was ill. So So you'll have his first one this year coming. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

His first one was, yeah, school plays were great. Can I remember?

SPEAKER_00 22:22

So we are setting up.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

We had Peter Pan, didn't we?

SPEAKER_00 22:25

Did The Wizard of Oz do we? Wizard of Oz, and then listen to this one now. So I imagine you've we've all gone to rehearsals, and then you're singing whatever songs, aren't you? Then you get to then you get told what part you've got. I got Dorman at The Wizard of Oz. So when when they all come.

SPEAKER_05 22:41

Tree number three.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Don't don't let me tell my story. Let me tell my story. So when we get when we got given the parts for The Wizard of Oz, it was a moment where I'm like, I think I'm gonna get I want to be I wanted to be the lion. I really wanted to be the lion. Um and anyway, they started selecting the parts, and then the lion went and it got given to my cousin. So my cousin Joe ended up being the lion, so I was gutted about that. Then my sister got given Dorothy, she had the main part, my twin sister. Sarah could sing though. Anyway, all these all these um top parts started going. Tin mantle's gone, scarecrow's gone. Scarecrow's gone. And I'm like, okay, um, I must be, at least I'll have a a little part where I'm I don't know, one of the monkeys or something. Anyway, got to my part, I was one of the literally one of the last ones to the that they chose, and I was a tree. I ended up being a tree. You're in Lisfie. No, there was. I had two lines, yeah. And I had I had remembered cardboard where you could turn it inside out and it had the lines on it.

SPEAKER_05 23:45

Corrugated bits, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

So we did that, they painted it, they painted my face brown, as a brown face, and then had like a um a leaf as a hat, and I had to take on my shit. I literally had to stand there like this, holding two beanbags. Yeah, and then when Dorothy and Lion and everything was walking past and saying what they were saying, um, I ended up getting angry in one one of the scenes, and I my two words was why you, and then I threw the beanbag at the scarecrow, and that was it, that was me done. And then my sister had nearly everything in part. She was every part, wasn't she? Yeah, so that was a that was a tough time for me. I'm still a bit I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Mist thrower hated me though. She didn't like me. Because I was like good at football, yeah, and like we was always the popular ones, like towards the end of school, weren't we? And like so the teachers didn't like it, so they wanted to give all the other kids like give uh like chances, so we never got that. So I don't think she liked me. I wouldn't allow to go to we went to Oakley twice, didn't we? I wouldn't allow to go in year six. I had to stay at school while you lot went off on holiday. I didn't do the year six one. I didn't know that. No, I can't remember that. Yeah, so I only went in year five, and then I wanted allowed to go. What could you try to stay in school, me and Paddy Ryan? Yeah, much I was naughty. I didn't, to be fair, I didn't. I never thought I was a naughty kid, but obviously I looked back and I was I was more disruptive more than anything. I wasn't a horrible kid, I was just cheeky. Do you know what I mean? You weren't that bad at all. But for her to not let me go on a school trip, I couldn't.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

I remember that. She didn't like me for for a particular reason. No. Where we lived was such a tight-knit sort of community. Everybody knew everyone's business. Yeah. And when I was younger, um, I did something I shouldn't shouldn't have done, but I think every kid must have most kids want to go. So I went into uh I went into Safeway at the time, from a quick save in Safeway. Yeah, they were the supermarkets. So I went into Safeway and I stole a box of Astros, Cabrias Astros. Don't even remember them. Astros. Yeah, they were Cabrias, and they were like a little little ball with like a sort of like little planets or something. Yes, they do, yeah, yeah. And then but they were quite nice, and I thought, I'm gonna have some of them. So I put them, got them in my pocket, ended up walking to the exit, and and I knew that well I didn't I didn't know, but I seen my cousin outside, and I was like, ah, I went, got them, put them in my pocket. Anyway, I walked out, got to the got to the exit, and there's a guy waiting for me. It was what it was the guy that was um stop it. He was like the security guard security guard. Can you come with me, please? And I was like, oh shit. And then I seen Joe and he just ducked outside. I ended up going back, he took me into the office, and he took me into the office, and I'll never forget it, it was his office was practically empty, and there was a computer in there. Yeah, yeah. And he was sat the the the manager of the store. And do you know what this looking back now, he he played it brilliant. This manager did of this.

SPEAKER_05 26:35

He showed you a video of you taking it.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

Well, I don't even think we they had videos that that that they didn't have any. They had CCTV, but they didn't have um, I don't think they could have showed any playback or anything. But I walked in and he was he sat down and I was like, my heart was racing. And um, yeah, no, I sat down and he was like, um, listen, listen, you see this computer. He says, and we know what you've done. You've stole this, you've stole this these suites, um, and you are now gonna go on this database now to say that you've you've you've stolen something from the store and everybody's gonna be able to see it. Really tried to scare me. I shit my pants. I thought, fuck I fuck. He says, You're gonna have a criminal record. And he was really trying to like, yeah, I could see he was trying to teach you something. So I had to read they had to ring my parents, my mum was devastated, she was crying, everything, and my auntie had to pick us up. Thinking, oh, it might be my cousin actually. And then I went going back to my auntie, ended up going, Mum was crying. Bless her, she was, I didn't bring you up this way. And um, but I think the way he handled it was brilliant because it was like he put fear in me, but there was no database, there was no there was nothing bagged you. He blagged me to scare me to set to make sure I'd never do it again. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't ever have to do ever have to do it after that again.

SPEAKER_05 27:54

Do you know what that reminds me of one of the best parenting things my mum and my stepdad did? So when I was about 13, I started smoking, obviously, idiot. And I used to get£1.50 a day for dinner money. Now, packet of fags was£1.97. So I used to steal 50p out of Nigel's wallet. Sorry, Nigel.

SPEAKER_06 28:12

Big Nigel.

SPEAKER_05 28:13

I used to steal 50p, buy a packet of 10 cigarettes. On the way into school, I'd sell them 50p a fag. So I'd make 10, I'd make five quid, sorry, and then I'd buy another packet of fags and I'd have two pounds fifty. So I've bought my dinner money, I've got my fags, I'm signed. They started noticing the money was going, so they've set up a video camera in the corner of the kitchen. I'm obviously coming down on my day, du da du da da, see my sister, start taking money out of Nigel's wallet, go back, get back from school. My mum and Nigel are like, right, we know one of you's been stealing money out of Nigel's wallet. Who is it? I'm like, it weren't fucking me. It's like, right, come into the front room, put the TV on, stop, video, video of me doing it. So, so embarrassed. It's like I never, they didn't even have to say anything. You got to the point, I never did it again. Never ever did it again. But that was probably one of the smartest things they could have done.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:05

Because I would have just argued it to the death if they hadn't shown me the video.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Yeah, yeah. That was a good thing from parents when I was.

SPEAKER_05 29:11

A smart thing to do, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Do you know when they didn't have to say anything? It was just that look of disappointment.

SPEAKER_05 29:16

But then I just thought to myself, I was like, if you just give me the 50p, I'll be able to make the money back anyway. Tell them, tell them that you fuck him up.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Tell us, do you want to chip in with me? Like this is a business plan here. That's a good business plan as well. Yeah, I know those are kids that did that in school.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

Ollis Winsco was like that, wasn't he? He was brilliant, yeah. He and he still does it now to this day, the little little Rodney, little wheelier and dealer. Always trying to find a way to make the cash. Yeah, he's done really well.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

But he smashed it for himself, do you know what I mean? He's still had that mindset from the floor.

SPEAKER_05 29:41

We used to go to the market as well and buy like cheap sweets and then sell sweets out of our backpack at school.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

Yeah, that was one thing that's I mean, you just really took me back from nostalgia again. Um is the flea market. Can you remember the flea market on our Thursday night? Yeah, yeah. And it I used to love that. I don't know why, there was something about, I think it started at six, and it was always in it always felt like it was in the winter months for some reason. It was on all year, wasn't it? But it was always dark, wasn't it? It was always dark for some reason. And um you'd go and they had all the stores and it was just all random shit.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

Like a car boot in those, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

And they'd do all the stores and stuff like that, and it was it was all crap from people's houses. But I used to love it. I used to absolutely love it. And it was right next to the library, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 30:21

I used to get all my old toys from there. Yeah. Mum used to take me on there. Did they do that anymore? Every Thursday, I'd be able to go with her and my mama, and they'd buy me the old like turtle toys. There'd always be someone selling like these old.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

That massive cobby still doing it.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

No, no, I don't think they're doing it.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

I think they're building on the importance. No, they don't. Yeah, they're gonna be building on the echo still. Do you know what's that's the dying trade as well? Like it that that was great for people that are less fortunate. We can go and buy, get a banging deal. But there's again, it's all online now. They've got vintage. Vinted. Exactly. Yeah, do you know what I mean? They've got everything on vintage.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

You can't, can you? Facebook marketplace if you need anything a bit bigger. Yeah, you know. Well, Vintage is brilliant for the for less fortunate.

SPEAKER_05 31:01

Clothing, man.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Yeah, vintage is so simple. For kids' clothing, I was always like, no, your kids need brand new stuff. You see how quick your kids are.

SPEAKER_05 31:08

But how many people buy stuff like cell phones?

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Still got tags in it, hasn't it? Exactly. The majority of the stuff, so Vintage's brilliant. We get a lot of the boys' train trainers off there. I bet a few bits off Vintage, some banging bits. But you know, if you if you go shopping now, you see it in the shop, you're like, it's 120 quid, you're like, I'll check, you get the the I'll find that on Vintage for the time. I'm gonna find that on Vintage. Type in the same thing on Vintage, and it's half price, and it's still got tags in you're like, just seems to 60 quid.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

It's even going back though, isn't it? Going back to and this is ex this the same example is that the flea markets used to go out and talk to people. You go there, you'd be like, Oh, how much is that, mate? 50p. Oh come on, keep doing it for 30p. Well, like it's not like you're having a conversation with someone or you bump into somebody that you know, and you you're constantly social. So we're everyone's going on vintage now. You don't see anyone, you're talking to someone behind a screen.

SPEAKER_05 31:57

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

And and this is this is the thing about there's so many pros to moving forward, and everybody has to move with the times, but sometimes I I really worry for my kids, and and I wish they could have had a a taste of what we we was able to do.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Always wonder what avenue like they're gonna go down, in like in respect to like work and stuff like that. Do you know? Yeah, no, until 20 years past. It's the opportunities now, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 32:24

This is who you are now based on your experiences, and this is how I still feel based on mine. So it's gonna be hard to determine exactly how it's gonna turn out, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 32:33

It's also tough as well to to try and embed in them qualities that you had growing up. To and and try and teach them certain values of how you had it to move in with the times to to how it is now, and it's yeah, it's difficult because then you you kind of it's part of the stuff that you might embed them now, is is irrelevant, and you you have to try and learn with the time, move at the time. And it's like so it but yeah, I do try and and show some values of of what we got taught for sure.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

Have to thing is that we had respect and it wasn't direct respect, it was you need to be in before them lights come on. Yeah, you were home. I mean, you didn't want to get told off. Do you know what I mean? And your dinner was at a set time, or you didn't want to get grounded.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Your bedtime. Kids these days don't give a fuck. I can't leave the house. Okay, that's fine. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

You're gonna lock me in my room with my with my computer with all my devices, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

Yeah, so being grounded now is actually a bonus, is a bonus for kids, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 33:33

That's what they want, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 33:33

That's what they want. I mean, that's in fact that's all they do. If you say you're grounded, you're going out. Yeah. Yeah, you'd tell actually you're not grounded. No, please don't go in to go out. I don't want to go out.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Do you think now though, like, like back in our day, we was allowed out. There was less because we didn't have the internet, obviously there was still that culture of like paedophiles or whatever. You know, back in the day, we didn't even think about it, it wasn't a common thing. So we'd go to the park like miles away, it could be four or five miles away at this park.

SPEAKER_05 34:02

There was less worry.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

There's not a chance I'd let my kid get to a park now without knowing exactly where they are.

SPEAKER_05 34:06

Especially when under 10 or something, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

When eight tag on or something, do you know what I mean? Like back in the day we used to go there. Mum and was your mum and dad worried? I don't know. Do you know what I mean? Maybe, but we used to come back safe, like now. But why is less trust?

SPEAKER_03 34:19

What why is that? I don't I I think there is less trust, but I do believe that the internet's had a massive part in that because there's so many. Back then you wasn't you wasn't you weren't open or you weren't able to see certain things.

SPEAKER_05 34:32

No, you couldn't see where your children were. Like if you think about it now, if your kid's out and they're posting, then there's a way for people to say, Oh, this is where that kid is. Exactly. I follow them on.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

You've only got to go on TikTok, aren't you? And you put their exact location where the other is.

SPEAKER_05 34:45

Before, if we're out, we're out. Your parents don't know where you are, which means that other people don't know where you are.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

So it's it's easier for the predators now.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Yeah. Where before. But predators can speak together online as well. And there's that as well. Do you know what I mean? But a topic I want to get into, by the way, because it's weird.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

It's fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

But yeah, it is fucked up. But at the same time, yes, there was I think there's a certain element of now being with the internet compared to how it was back then, that there was I don't think I wouldn't say the trust issue with the parents. I just felt like it was it was more comfortable because every other child did it on most other children, unless they were super strict. We'd play, we'd play out on the street Kirby till Kirby. Yeah, well we'd play so sick. I'll never forget our street. I lived on a terrace street and it was uh it was a great street because there's so many kids. There must have been well over a hundred houses on our street. Oh easy. Over 100 houses on our state. Easy, but like the the beauty of that was going out and playing on the street until literally that dinner was on the table, and his mum would come out, lam, and she'd lam, dinner's been on the table for five minutes. You're playing football on the street with all the kids that's on that street, yeah. It was such a nice community to be a part of. Like, and I saw Sunday, Sundays, Sundays were like everything was closed, everything's shut. There's any put the only shop that was open. No, the little corner shop. The little corner shop opened at 10 and shut at two. Jack Bells. That was Jacob's shop. It was uh Heathers, Heathers Heathers on the corner.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

That was like the sweet shop. That was yeah, because that was on the corner of my mama's street. That was Mama would give you 50p, you know. 50p, you would come back with a bag of toughies, you know what I mean? Sweets for all you southerners, but yeah, um bag of toughies, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:30

Sundays. I can never forget it as well, because it was and I I think it's it's not around as much now, and everybody has a Sunday roast, or every a lot of people do have Sunday roast, but they've it's not how it used to be, like it was tradition, like Sunday roast every Sunday, one or two o'clock. And I never forget it. Mum would send us round the corner for a bottle of limeade, yeah. So you'll get a bottle of limeade, come back. Um, oh yeah, and if you're very unlucky at 10 years old, she'd send you for a bottle of limeade and a pack of tan packs. So you go in there and you go, depends on what time of the month.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

Can I have uh a bottle of limeade, uh some potatoes and uh some tan packs?

SPEAKER_03 37:12

Like that. And then you feel like a right knob just going there, walking home and going, Mum, don't ever send me for that again. Because everyone would laugh at you. Like the the older the older bloke would go, like that, Steve, there you go. Steve, yeah, ponytail Steve. Um, but yeah, they they were the ones. So you'd go home and you'd all have dinner together, apart from your sisters, they won't come down because it was hungover from the night before. Just you and Sarah. Me, Sarah, and mum. Mum was still hungover. She used to go out. Massive, huh? In the loft. Huge, wasn't it? Yeah, but in the winter that was tough. Yeah, I can imagine it was a little bit more. No whole shit. Nothing. But she had like massive, she had like a dressing room, bed, like silking wardrobe.

SPEAKER_00 37:49

She had everything on the original, didn't she?

SPEAKER_03 37:51

She did, yeah, but it was um she was that cold. Even in the winter, she would have a cover, put a cover over it, and she'd have a hair dryer, hair dryer under the quilt to keep her warm. Stop it. Yeah. Don't file, wouldn't you? Yeah, she used to do it all the time. You wonder electricity bill was through the roof. Through the roof. Um but yeah, they were the they were the times, man. They were the times. Where have we gone from? We've gone from primary school. Primary school. Sundays, Sundays, and uh kicking ball on the street.

SPEAKER_05 38:19

All over the place, isn't it, really?

SPEAKER_03 38:21

It's nostalgia, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 38:22

It's it's it brings so many memories back now. Even when you just said, let's go to the shop and get some limeade. I'm thinking like Dandelion and Burdock.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Do you know what I mean? What a nice drink. Popman used to come round in his Or the Milkman. The milk milkman, so the milkman, they were kind of like the same, weren't they? So there'd be milkman that came round with its and the little bottles of orange juice. Remember that glass shapes. Glasses of glasses of orange juice and they'd leave them, they'd leave them by the side of their house.

SPEAKER_05 38:49

Have you heard of the modern milkman?

SPEAKER_03 38:50

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I heard I remember Bora saying so. The the glass the glass bottles used to get left outside the front, so there'd be milk and orange juice, and we always used to nick them and run.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Yeah, when we got a bit older on a night out, I'd come walking back thinking or something. I'd miss a kebab, I'd just come past someone's ass. Imagine they'd gone like to make a coffee or make the cereal in the morning, they're like the milk's gone, and I'm just there on everybody. Little bastard. Nailing this milk. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_05 39:17

So if you remember on one of the last podcasts, we did a segment called Am I the Arsehole?

SPEAKER_00 39:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:22

So towards the end, I thought we'd get a couple more in. Let's do it, man.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

I'd love to do three, that was banging. I've got some I have got some questions to I put a question box on as well for the nostalgia thing. So we'll do that after.

SPEAKER_05 39:32

So, am I the arsehole for ending a relationship because I lost attraction after my partner had gained weight?

unknown 39:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 39:41

Controversial for sure. So a little bit of a backstory. I'm at the arsehole, friend in a relationship, because I lost attraction after my partner gained weight. We used to train together and live a pretty active lifestyle. Over time, my partner stopped exercising, gained a lot of weight, and had no interest in changing. I tried suggesting healthier habits and training together, but it also turned always turned into arguments and defensiveness. Eventually I realised I wasn't attracted to them anymore and ended the relationship. Friends say I'm shallow and abandoned them when they needed support the most. What do we think to that?

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Is this a girl saying it to a blower? I think it could go either way. It could go either way.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

But you've got to picture it neutral, neutral ground. I think if your first initial attraction is that you both go to the gym together, that's their attraction.

SPEAKER_05 40:31

And it could go past physical attraction.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

I'm picturing now this as that the girl has lost attraction to the man, so the man's not going to the gym now. So she's got with this fit lad. Do you know what I mean? Six part looks well, you know, and then he's then let himself go a little bit. He's got comfy in the relationship, but then has he then got lazy? Is his work ethic different? Is his way of life different? Like you carry yourself better when you're looking better, feeling better, you know. So he's I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

It's hard to ask hard to ask us this question because my answer straight away is whichever one it is, they need to just get their ass back in the gym. So I I I can't fault the person. I don't think they're an arsehole at all. I think that's that's how it should be. And I I I do believe that if everybody's got a bit of health and well-being in their life, then it's gonna it's gonna help them no end. So benefit them terms. Yeah, massively.

SPEAKER_05 41:31

Yeah, I think if you start getting lazy, then you gain weight, then you lose motivation, then there's no drive. It's like you're not just looking at somebody from a physical perspective, it's everything that goes with them. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

I think but they've also given them the chance to say about it. Do you want to get back in the gym? So they have communicated that that almost I'm losing attraction to you. Yeah, you need to do something about it. They've then gone on to do nothing about it. I don't think that they're also there. No, yeah. Yeah, no, unless it's for medical reasons or whatever, I don't think that they're also. They've given them a chance, and I think being fitter, healthier is only going to benefit you in so many ways. The way you carry yourself, the energy you give off to your partner, you're gonna have that more, that spark's gonna be there, isn't it? If that spark's not there no more, then it's a dead relationship, anyway, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 42:18

So unanimous decision is they're not an arsehole.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

I pictured that.

SPEAKER_05 42:22

Sort your shit out, mate.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

Yeah, but get in the fucking gym, mate.

SPEAKER_05 42:26

Okay, am I the arsehole for tracking calories even though my partner hates it? So am I the arsehole for tracking my calories, even though my partner hates it. I track my calories and be consistent because it helps me be like I'm in feel like I'm in control. My partner says it's obsessive and unhealthy and wants me to stop because it sets a bad example. I don't push it on anyone, it just works for me. Now it's become a constant argument.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Okay. Things though, if he is so he's tracking, he's tracking the calories, she's not over. I want to say it that way round. Then he then knows what he's eating anyway. So if it's causing her stress and you really like that person, you know if you're having 3,000 calories, you ain't got to go, oh, that's got keep picking up on it, pick up can of cocoa, oh that's got a hundred calories in it, or yeah, it gets a little bit self-obsessive about it how it comes across, isn't it? Yeah, it's the way you guys communicate. So I think if he wants to speak about it, that's then for it.

SPEAKER_05 43:26

But for some people it could be triggering, right?

unknown 43:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:28

Counting calories in front of them, like some people have their issues with food, etc.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

I've got it. I had it when I was first got with Taylor, Taylor had an eating disorder before. Of course, yeah. So I had to, I always track calories, I knew what was what. I've not spoken about calories since been with Taylor. I know what I have, I don't speak it out loud because she, out of respect to her, I don't I don't.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

That's me and so you that's because you've been there. You've been able to communicate and say and or understand the situation and go, right, this is the solution. I know this is what's going to work for me and going forward. So that's great. From your part, other people probably can't do that. Now, in my opinion, I I don't think that that person is the arsehole. I just feel like they need to get the shit together, talk about it, and and find a plan. Move past the see it how you've seen it, and maybe that man or woman, whoever's going through the situation. Just do it in the background and yes, do and just kind of mentally go. Look at yourself. I don't need to tell because it obviously there's there's obviously a dispute there because they're talking she's talking about or he's talking about it, and and then it's pissing one of one or the other one off. Also, that person that's not tracking has obviously got a problem with food, or is it that's yeah, that doesn't have that good relationship with food with food. So it all needs to kind of it all comes back to communication and my communication.

SPEAKER_05 44:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

I mean, I if say in my instance, like with me and Taylor, if she told me not to speak about it, then I continue to speak about it, then I'm in the wrong thing. Then I'm the arsehole. Yeah, I'm straight up the arsehole. Do you know what I mean? But like we've communicated that I respect her, and you move on, you don't and it's I'm not being funner. Do you want me to speak about calories? It's quite boring to me. It's quite fucking boring. As much as I'm an online coach and I help people get in shape, and it is about calories and tracking my careers. Speaking about it out loud on a day-to-day basis is fucking boring. No one cares, do they? Yeah. No. To look how you look for for how you carry yourself and your daily habits, so you don't need to speak about it, bro.

SPEAKER_05 45:21

So you say you've got some questions then, mate.

SPEAKER_00 45:23

Yeah, so I put a question box on Instagram. So obviously, you guys can add to this as well, by the way. Um, what do you like most and remember growing up in the 90s? Just to end this, obviously, we've been speaking about nostalgia, we've been speaking about primary school.

SPEAKER_05 45:37

I think again, just connection to people. Those days being down the park on a Sunday, there's 30 of you, you're all having a wicked time running around, it's hot, it's sweaty, it's like just those moments where you can think back to like that was a really nice day. Because it's it's memories, really, isn't it? That's what you're creating.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

So what I miss one manwembo and heads and volleys. Heads and volleys. Heads and volleys. Do you ever play red horse? Stingers.

SPEAKER_05 46:05

So yeah, heads and volleys, where if you got scored past five times, you'd have to turn around and they'll just wipe the ball at your back.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

I think you had like three lives, three or four. Do you have five lives? Something like that, yeah. Five lives, and then you get down to your last life, and then you had to score a header and a volley, and then you get stingers, wouldn't you? Yeah. Maybe they was the times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

So my mine is it's gotta be it's gotta be family. Family and friends, and like you said, Shane, that that face-to-face sort of um communication with no phones. Because and I was having this conversation the other day is is I think it was yesterday actually, family. We we used to do every Christmas. Our families used to get together every Christmas. We go to my cousins on a on a Christmas night, and it and I d I don't know what the aunties and uncles did back then that was different to today. I know it's completely different now, but the way that they used to organise things and the way they used to get us all together, and all the cousins used to play, and food we brought together. We my uncle used to do a quiz night on Christmas night, it was brilliant. Yeah, grandis. He used to get yeah, he used to get dead angry because nobody would listen, because everybody would have had a learned few to drink, and he was trying to try to read out the questions, he'd get dead angry, get his teeth out. And it was they were the times like taking me back to them sort of moments of just so heartwarming, and it's like that's gone. So it's like I'm really trying to create that yourself, I'm trying to create myself, but my heart, like I don't feel like there's a space big enough now because the families have got so much bigger. Yeah, yeah, everybody's lost that sort of connection now. And I really I it's not like it used to be, it really isn't. And that that for me, um family is everything, and and as you get older, you for some reason I think that connection has has been lost a little bit. And I love my family, I love every every one of my family. Um, my all my aunties, all my uncles, all my cousins, and for for us to kind of lost that connection, it's quite it's quite hard. So I I do take myself back to them times a lot.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

So I always think like do you know when you did that, you got that get together. Like, there was obviously a time when there was that last big get together, but when you were getting you all got together, you never knew that was the last time we were all getting together. It kind of just it just fades away. Same as like when you used to go out and play. When was the last time you went out to play? You didn't go out thinking this is the last time I'm I went going out to play, like I'm gonna fucking send it today. It just stops, didn't it? Yeah, do you know what I mean? But that is it is to bring it back though. I like that. Like you did it almost last year. Well, you did do it last year with the big gazebo on the back of the house. That was that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 48:35

But again, like it's weird as well, because I'll say it, I I had a gazebo in my put in my house, and we I got as many as we could. The house was full. We got this gazebo, we had 12 people, 12 of the family members, but even then, that's that's not a lot. That's a lot, yeah. And like my auntie's house was a four-bed. It wasn't a massive house, but there used to be nowhere like 60 people in this house. I'm not joking, and everybody would be having a good time, laughing, joking all night. God. Everybody would bring their own bottle. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Bring your own drink and just my auntie used to make this incredible sherry trifle as well. Sherry trifle? Yeah, and I used to be like, she was the best cook. I used to be the one that used to auntie Betty. Betty. So I used to, I used to um I used to ring my cousin, I had my dinner, I'll go home from school, I'll have my dinner, and then I ring my cousin and go, Yeah, yes, bro. What are you doing? Yeah, I'm coming up. Have you had dinner yet? No. Yeah, yeah. Save a plate for me. So then I used to go, so then I used to go to I'd ride my bike up to my auntie's and she'd be like, Yeah, dinner. And I'm like, No. And then I'd have the I'd have the another dinner at my auntie's, and then my mum used to speak to my auntie a bit later, and I said, She'd be like, Has Liam had dinner? So yeah, he's come here for come here again for another dinner every time because she her dinners were banging. Uh but yeah, they were the they were they were the times for me. Family for me is uh is everything, and uh I really feel like everybody, if you've had any sort of altercations with your family, if you've just try and take yourself back and try and understand that you like to say life is precious, you just gotta enjoy your family, you've got to try and cherish every moment with your family and and try and spend as much time as possible and try and try and still do them little things, them little meetups, because they're what matters. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

So everyone's at different chapters, aren't they? Do you know what I mean? Not everybody's gonna be able to get together, everyone's busy, but just try and make it make an effort. That's what it is. Make it if you make the effort like it's then you'd kind of know who your real ones are, then. Yeah, for sure. Right. So, yeah, this from the question box, I'll just read a few off and you guys can just kind of elaborate on it. So, what do you like most and remember growing up in the 90s? So, someone put you up riding bikes until the street lights came on and no one knowing where you were. Yeah. We kind of touched base on that. Very relatable. Uh, Saturday morning cartoons with a bowl of sugary cereal, unmatched. Remember that though? I used to get a bowl of frosties, bearing in mind there's a lot of sugar on frosties, put more sugar on it, and then you get to the bottom of that sugary milk. Yeah. There's wheater bicks for it. In fact, wheat bits.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

Sugar. Thick layer of sugar on top. Sugar, sugar wasn't bad for you back in our day, was it? Warm or cold. Wheater bits, warm or cold. Do you know what? I used to have it hot.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

I used to put hot water on it with a little bit of cold.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

Hot water? What the fuck? Yeah, put hot water. You've been dieting from days.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

That's why I'm peeled, mate.

SPEAKER_00 51:29

I've done it since four years old. Put hot water on it and then pour a little bit of milk on, then sugar. I don't think I'll ever do that. You wait till you get home, mate. Wrong mic.

SPEAKER_06 51:40

I'm not trying to.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Yeah, thanks for that bit of information. I'm never gonna do that. Mum man. Blockbuster on a Friday night was the business. Cavs on a Friday night, every Friday. We used to watch a movie, get we'd go rent a movie, then his mum would give us a quid each. Yeah, so we'd go to this one shop. Come on, what the shop was called. So the cabinet. Do you remember they used to rent like a PlayStation?

SPEAKER_03 52:09

You could rent a PlayStation. It was Sega Wegger Drive first. So this this was before, so I'll never forget the cabin. I'm glad you bought this off because that was that was just up the road from it, wasn't it? And that was a memory for me as well. And I can remember that the films, some films were 50p, and you used to get there and there was they were like plastic, sort of skinny sort of plastic um I don't know, like a sleeve on it. Like a sleeve, and it had like a bit of paper in with the the front of the TV, uh the the film front on it. So for example, if it was pulp fiction, it'd have the front of the pump filp fiction and then the back. And you'd flick through them. Oh yeah, I want that one. You take that one, and then you give it to the give it to the guy at the count and you can get you the VCR and bring it you back. VCR.

SPEAKER_05 52:52

Is it VHS? No, VHS. VHS wasn't it. VCR is what reads it inside the VCR.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

VCR is the reader of the VHS. Yeah, so it's like the what you put the video in. Yeah. It's what you put the video in. Video set recorder. God, bro.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

They were the days though. It's like stuff like that. And this is another thing about taking yourself back as well.

SPEAKER_05 53:11

Whereas now you just turn the TV on. If you want to rent something, you just pay for each of the cars. You just go straight up on the house and do it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:19

No matter what film you want to watch, it's on there somewhere. Exactly. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 53:22

Whether it's on Netflix or as it used to be an actual ordeal, leave the house, let's go find the video to put on.

SPEAKER_00 53:28

But you know, if that video got released that Friday, that you had to get there at a certain time, and say if you got there, say if they used to come back at six, you had to get there for like just before six, if somebody'd be bringing it back, and you'd be like, honoured a beer in a minute to bring it, then you'd grab it off them.

SPEAKER_05 53:43

Even getting a takeaway was like they did they did deliver, right? But most of the time it was you'd go to the chippy. It was, yeah. Or you'd go somewhere to get the food.

SPEAKER_00 53:51

And the ones you kind of got delivered back then was just the Chinese, on it. Yeah, usually. I'd go to my because I just walked up the road. Up the road, yeah. Chip shop was anything, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 53:58

Everyone went to chip shop Friday in the day. Friday night. Friday chip shop.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Yeah, the chippy was a banger, wasn't it? Batter bits. I still go to the same chippy. There was like, I can have um large chips, uh small fish, and uh bag of batter bits, please. I was like, batter bits. Yeah, some some places don't throw in it back. I can't believe they still do it. Yeah, mad. Go for a few more of these burning CDs and making the perfect playlist for your sit on a side side.

SPEAKER_03 54:24

Wow. I used to get done with it. Getting the most viruses on viruses. What was the other one? Um Kazor. No.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

Napster. Napster. That was the Napster was the original. Yes, okay. Sick. MSM Messenger.

SPEAKER_03 54:40

Oh man, the best. MSM Messenger. MSM Messenger from school for that. MSM Messenger and Blackberry BBM. BBM. BBM, Blackberry. Yeah, Blackberry Messenger. Yeah, can I have your pin? That was always your way in. So that was your way in to get a girl. You don't need to ask for the number because a number's too personal. So even if they they want that bothered, they didn't really like you, you could jump in. So then you'd say, can I have your can I have your your church? Can I have your phone? Chirps in that's all you can do. Can I have your pin, darling?

SPEAKER_00 55:10

Um Sonic the Hedgehog. Fucking hell, yeah. Sonic was a big thing.

SPEAKER_05 55:15

That was into the sake of Mega Drive, wasn't it? Yeah, Sonic was like.

SPEAKER_00 55:19

That was sick. Alex the Kid was sick. Do you know what was another banger? Paperboy. Do you have paperboy? Paper boy was a big thing.

SPEAKER_05 55:25

These were those games though where you couldn't save it. Never. If you played Sonic, you had to play it to complete it. Yeah. You had to play it straight. Yeah, it is. Like constantly. I think I completed it once or twice. You're like, Dad, dad, dad, I'm on the last level.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

No, bedtime, son. No. And then my daddy take it off me and he completed it for me.

SPEAKER_03 55:39

Because the better me to be honest, it was always Dr. Robotnik at the end, and you'd get you'd have to jump up or up him. You have to jump up and under his hands.

SPEAKER_05 55:46

But you could you could accumulate more lives throughout the game, couldn't you?

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Yeah, yeah. Collecting more rings.

SPEAKER_03 55:52

Can we have a bomber man?

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Bomberman. Bomberman, yeah. That was good as well. Wow. Playing snake on a Nokia.

SPEAKER_05 56:02

A 33 tag. Snake, after that. Well Nokia 402. Is that the first one with the little aerosol at 402? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:08

I think that was the first one. That was the first one with the games on it. It was snakes, I think.

SPEAKER_05 56:13

I think that was my first ever phone. A Nokia 402. And I remember thinking it was fucking bad boy. My mum took me to Derby to get it off a friend, I think her name was Sarah or something.

SPEAKER_00 56:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:23

And um I remember getting the SIM card for it, because obviously it didn't work without a SIM card. And then on there, just on this phone, madden out fucking for hours. I think back to it now, I'd get bored within three seconds of that.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

It's mad you used to get it. You used to get you used to put a five pound credit on it. If you bought a five pound credit, you got five free texts a day.

SPEAKER_03 56:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:43

You used to have to try and fit as many letters into the text message as possible.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

Yeah, and then you'd run out of it.

SPEAKER_00 56:47

Then you'd have to abbreviate it, and then you'd start putting words in without spacers, then press send that. That's definitely where it's come from.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

100%. Yeah. Just shortening the words. That's definitely probably because of that. Because of that, yeah. Because you had to just shorten everything and then it just became a thing, didn't it?

SPEAKER_00 57:02

LOL. Now you just send a message lol. Like it's like, just wasted a message, mate. But now we've got unlimited message, haven't we? Yeah, because communication these days is crazy. Spoiled nowadays.

SPEAKER_05 57:10

Like voice notes as well.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

You get always that one person as well that will send a Millie message like ding ding ding. You like just send it all in one message.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

I'm gonna I'm gonna start um wrapping up some questions because we'll wrap it up now because we've I've got a can I give the quote? I've got a good quote now. I've just got a couple more questions. Oh, you've got questions, yeah. Go on. This is just a these are wrap-up questions. Yeah, yeah. So is nostalgia dangerous or does it remind us of what we've lost?

SPEAKER_00 57:36

I don't think it's what we've lost, I think it's what we experienced and what we went through, and it's made us who we are today.

SPEAKER_05 57:42

Yeah, I wouldn't call it dangerous. Definitely not dangerous, it's always got from my perspective, it's always a nice feeling. When you think about nostalgia, you don't think about anything bad. It's always like, yeah, that was quite a fond memory.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

I think because maybe we've been lucky to have good childhoods as well. Yeah. You know, like good experiences. Like some kids probably had really bad childhoods, so yeah, nostalgia to them is any different things. They don't want to think about that. But being lucky as we are, like yeah, I think the word nostalgia makes me excited. If it makes me think of old music, old foods, old times, the way I used to feel. Good smells, playing on the field with my mates, like jupe, white white mosque, diesel, parentite, listen, Fahrenheit was my granddad's granddad's favourite, yeah, and my mum or I mean my granddad passed that two, three years ago now, but my mum has still got a little bottle of Fahrenheit in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_04 58:33

It's mud.

SPEAKER_00 58:34

Smells so good, man.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

It takes you back, smell it now. So good. Okay, are we improving life or overcomplicating it?

SPEAKER_00 58:43

We're making it easier for access, for jobs, for opportunities, but I do like the old ways sometimes. I definitely like I'm glad we grew up in that that era of being in both. Picture your grandparents, like my grandma now. She still plays Sudoku out of a book, she plays crosswords out of a book. She didn't want an iPad. I said, Mumma, I'll buy you an iPad. You can play as many games as you want. No, she likes it. We that's one present we buy for a birthday at Christmas. She likes physical, she don't want that. I have to pay 50p to send her a picture of my son because that's that's what it costs now, isn't it? To send a picture message to an old phone is like a 50p. I said, Mumma I'll buy you a phone so I can send you as many pictures as you want. No, don't want it. They're just old school, just set in their ways.

SPEAKER_03 59:29

I can't fault them to be honest. What parts of the 90s should we bring back? Ooh. Music.

SPEAKER_05 59:35

Music, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:37

90s old school RB, spice girls. No, that is me. There's no for me, is it is 90s RB. Because and I'll never forget it. My sister, she's probably the person that really pathed me to to like 90s RB because that's that is my music, that's my time, that's my jams. And I'll never forget being at my old house and she lived, she's in the loft. I can remember the wooden stairs that took me up to the loft. I just I used to sit at the bottom of there and I listen, she used to she used to be pumping up. Just listening to SWV, um, Drew Hill, all your old school Place Black stuff. Boy, Boysterman. Boysterman. And I used to be like singing at the bottom of the stairs, like to these songs, and then I get to school and everyone's singing, flipping spice girls and stuff. And I mean I get involved with that as well because that's the but then I had the it just kind of it's built into you. It's like I'm hoping my kids start liking the music that I liked because they're listening to that and not flipping K-pop demons on the city. But I think that's what passed that on to me.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Like I can remember going around your sisters and going through like a CD collection, and she had the Heartless Crew CD.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:39

Heartless with Heartless.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Trying to find Heartless music now online. You can't find it. Kids do not move on their own. But then you can't do anything else but listen to that unless you play for the premium, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:52

Now this is uh Heartless was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

Man, I think like Jake was he sent me a video, sorry, a picture yesterday of him and his daughter like singing along to um just an old school 50 cent song, and it's like been remade. But you think when we was born, 80s music was like old, like your dad's movie that was old. But now our two Fazer's music is the equivalent to their kids, the kids now. So that is the music what that we're listening to, is that is that an archival?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:21

I like classical music, mate.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:22

Sick.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:23

I listen to a lot of classical music.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

If you want to be in that right mindset, that Zen mindset and focused and just not have words, classical's wicked, isn't it? What? Songs of praise on a Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

Yeah, when you hung over. And what parts are we r romanticising because adulthood is hard?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:43

I think anything that takes you back to having no responsibilities, being a child, and it's just all about enjoying the day.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:51

Playing with your friends, playing a video game, listening to music, being at school, in the lunch line, just little things where you just think there was no care in the world.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

No responsibility.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:02

Yeah, no responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

Playtime at secondary school for me is quite a big one. When we used to go out and play football, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:09

It all just those doors open, you just run outside.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:11

Well, the worst noise you hear is Ding ding ding.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:14

Yeah, time to get the back.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

We had the good times, man, just going outside, playing. Going to like going to the woods when we used to go to the woods and that meat dense, making rope swings and climbing fucking trees and shit. It was crazy, like climbing up the biggest tree, then thinking, fuck, I've got to get down now. How do I do that? But you're up there. And you find a way. You find a way, of course you do. That's how you learn, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

I really don't want to end this conversation unless it's been that clear. I don't think we've touched off of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:38

It's 20 past. We could just run it to the end of the time frame and then make this a long episode. Or try and split it into two.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:46

It's one do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

I think it might be more difficult to stop and try and start another one.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

I don't. It's up to you. I can speak about it for longer if you want. I have to speak about it all day. I'm easy going. You know? I think we'll have a little toilet break. I need a toilet break anyway. Yeah. I'm gonna end the I'm gonna end on a quote that came up yesterday on Instagram. It was a picture of Tom Hardy. Love Tom Hardy, it's probably my favourite actor. So it says, Slowly losing friends is a part of growing up. We don't lose friends, we just learn who our real ones are. So that's quite a big quote.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:16

Very true.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

I like that. Because as you get older, your circle gets smaller.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:20

And if somebody's not relatable to your situation, then they're not bringing anything to your life.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:25

And it's not like you fell out with them, it's you both got different views on life now. You just drift apart, so there's no need to fall out, it's just everyone's just on their own different paths.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

So long as you've still got that respect for for your friends and stuff like that. Like you say, you're on different paths, and and that that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:41

And you've got friends that are on different levels. I've got friends now that I could ring up ten years later, and it's you'd speak like you've spoken your own. You can always reconnect with people, but then you've got your close ones like you two that we speak to every day when you decide to reply in the group chat.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:56

I just I'm just gonna say, um, I think we're gonna have to do a part two on this one because I just I thought it's been great, and I feel like we can talk forever. There's loads more I can see. So absolutely let's go to the toilet and then we'll be back. Guys, thank you so much again for tuning in. We appreciate you. And yeah, if you if you enjoy, then like and subscribe.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:16

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SPEAKER_00 1:04:31

Yeah, I want more like Am I the Arsehole, and especially like we speak about nostalgia today. Like, what was your good times? Like, how did you grow up? What do you what do you remember the most? Yeah, you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:43

Yeah, because this could go for all age groups, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

All age groups.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:46

Somebody watching this who's 50 in there for sure. Nostalgia is the 80s or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:49

I mean my dad's 65, he'll be our number one fan. We've only got one fan in this. Cheers, Pete.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:54

Don't forget all the other uh accounts that you've made.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:59

They're all 38. Right, that's great.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:01

See you soon, guys. Thank you.