EPISODE 14: SUPERGIRL - THE WORLD

ALL CHANGE!

This week, Eliza-Mariah is in the driving seat, having done the research and chosen the comic we are looking at: SUPERGIRL - THE WORLD, a new FREE title from DC COMICS, published on SUPERGIRL DAY, which is tying in with the new SUPERGIRL film opening in June. 

This is a taster of a new graphic novel that is coming out soon, with creative teams from around the globe, focusing on female artists and writers.

We talk about SUPERGIRL and SUPERMAN too, how the characters are changing with the times, and which versions we like too! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to Morgan Talks Comics. This week we're looking at a preview comic, Supergirl the World, because it was Supergirl Day last Saturday in comic shops around the world, as far as I'm aware. There is a Supergirl film dropping in June, which is the next big DC film to come out. And this week Elizabeth is in charge.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

I didn't want to go as far as to say that. I just did a bit of research. So I did the research and we looked at the um people involved in this, and I had how many? Four four people were predominantly involved, and I hadn't hadn't heard of any of them. Had you?

SPEAKER_01 0:48

I'd heard of Joelle Jones, who's done the cover. Um she's she's well known um as a writer and artist.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Um you've just told everything I was going to tell you. Oh, sorry. I just asked if you knew. Think you're in um a cult and somebody asks you a question, you just ask the question. Yes, dear. That's quite right calling me, dear. Well, the first one I I found was Anik. Is that how you say it? I think so, yeah. And this person's professionally known as Anik, but her other name, because I did research, is Marillion. I've it's a Spanish name, I'm sure I've mangled it. And well she's Spanish. She's well known in Spain and the US, and she white works in a wide range of genres. Um, she's associated with DC, Marvel, and Dynamite Entertainment. Have we encountered them?

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Yes, uh, we've not actually looked at any dynamite comics yet. Dynamites tend to do comics that are licensed, so a lot of the they do a lot of comics with older characters like Hanna Barbera and stuff like that, animated characters. I have got some of their stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Like, will we do one one day?

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Right. So she does that. She works on, and these sound interesting, bombshells.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

So bombshells was, I think, a DC title, and it was based around it's um female characters within the DC universe.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

Right, Poison Ivy. Is that a character?

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Poison Ivy is a character from Batman originally. Uh Poison Ivy has become a very popular character. There's um talking a little bit about what we're gonna look at in this episode, the the tides are turning in comics, and there are far more female characters and female creators coming out here. Quite right. So we've got a lot of female, sorry, we've got a lot of female creators here actually working on Supergirl. So there's um and the industry is definitely changing that there are far more female writers and artists out there, which is I was going to mention that later when I'd gone through my list and seen how many females were involved.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

We've got this bombshell poison ivy, catwoman. I think even I know Catwoman.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Yes. She's m done many collaborative projects w with Marvel. Yeah. I haven't got a list of them. I can't remember if I saw them. Probably not, otherwise I'd have written it down, wouldn't I? And for Rebellion, she does 2000 AD, which is something that you're really, really, really keen on, I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Yeah, uh we've already done an episode on the on a more recent issue of 2000 AD. 2000 AD is one of the oldest comics, British comics, in circulation. I think it's coming up for its 50th anniversary. Um, and as far as I'm aware, Annie has done work for quite a few characters in 2008.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

I've also got this this dynamite. She did something in what what is that? Vampirella Vampirella. What's that about? A vampire.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Vampirella is I know what little I do know, Vampirella I think started in possibly the 50s and definitely in the 60s. She's a uh female vampire character, surprise, surprise, who wears not a lot of clothes. Um and I think she was kind of like a cult character. Um did dynamite publish publish comics based on that on the character that I think the the characters owned by like a studio, you know, a film studio or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Right. Did you say something about them doing work under licence? They just say was that oh well that is into dynamite entertainment. You mentioned that five minutes ago. Right. She all they also said did Red Sonia, presumably that's a caveat.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

So Red Sonia, I might be wrong, but was created by the guy who created Conan the Barbarian. Red Sonia is.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

She's supposed to be a Russian, is she?

SPEAKER_01 5:12

No. Oh, um sort of red. No. Uh she's from the Conan the Barbarian kind of universe. She's a female barbarian.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Why is she called red? Is that blood or something?

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Because she has red hair.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Oh, that's boring, isn't it? Anyway, I found quite a lot about her. Unfortunately, after that, I wasn't quite so lucky. There was another person called Jan Krell. He's a illustrator and storyteller. He's German and he's done a lot of work on German comics. And that's all I know about him because anything I found, or most nearly anything I found, was in German. Now I have tried learning German, and I do know some words, but not enough to be able to do that. No. Right. Then we've got Mary Sain. I don't know if those two work together, do they? She's also German.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

They have worked together, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Right, she does German comic books and book illustrators, and again, most of the information I found from her was in German. So, um, well, my son lives in Germany, married to a German woman, so I could find out more in the future by saying, Would you translate that for you? So maybe we'll go back to that.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Right, her nose to my next gruffy notes. We come to Joelle Jones. That is a lovely name, Joelle. It is.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

I think that's because it sounds a bit like one of your daughter's names.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

It does sound a bit like it. It's just I didn't expect Jones to follow it. But never mind. She is a US person based in Los Angeles, and apparently initially she's from Idaho. I found an age for her, didn't find an age for anybody else. She's 46. And um covers her specialism. On Mar for Marvel, she's done Mockingbird and Ms. Marvel.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

What do you know about those? So um Ms. Marvel is was is a very popular title. It was recently made into a TV series. Um Marvel have been doing lots of TV series based on their characters. Um Ms Ms. Marvel is a young I can't remember what nationality she I think she might be Muslim. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

Um I've got I've got an itchy leg and it's underneath the table. Just stay there. Stay there.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

I'm holding it.

SPEAKER_00 8:01

Problem sorted. You were saying she's Muslim.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

Uh yeah, as I think she's a Muslim character and and that's they play they they use her heritage and life, you know, religion and all that kind of stuff is is is a key part of the comics.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

I've noticed that even though there's been Muslim people in this country for many years, that recently they are becoming involved in the bigger society. And yesterday there was um this was in Paris, there was a fashion show which is was um for Muslim women. Modest things. Right, that's totally irrelevant. Yeah, but anyway, Joel Jones, she's eyes nominated, and I'm impressed by that. Perhaps she'll win next time.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

But we couldn't find out what she was nominated. No, specifically, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

So we don't know if she was nominated as a writer or as an artist. She is uh as I said earlier, and and Lise Mariah had mentioned, there the tide is very much turning in in modern comics, and there are way more female creators coming up and female characters, but uh female characters written by female creators. Wonder Woman is going from strength to strength at the moment. Supergirl is really popular because of the film's coming up, so I'll just obviously DC think think that uh it's worth investing in by the fact that they actually usually they do Superman Day, so I think I believe that's the day that Superman was first published. This year they hijacked it and called it Supergirl Day because the film is coming up.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

So that's good. Um I noticed there that there's three women and one man involved in this, yeah, developing this. Yeah. I wish it wasn't called Supergirl. Now there is a Superwoman, isn't there?

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Not that I'm aware of, there's Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Oh I'm confused. Well, in that case, why on earth haven't they changed it into Superwoman?

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Because it's wrong that Yeah, whether it was because of the times, um Well it would have done when it was originally, but why not change it now? Yeah. I guess because the the the brand, Supergirl as a brand is so well entrenched now that um the it's it's stuck.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Yes, but it could there's no reason why it shouldn't change. It could be part of the story that she ends up and say, don't call me a girl, I'm 110 now. Yeah. Yes. So that's that's that's one point gone. And we haven't even opened the comic.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Yeah, like I say, the um the it's the comic industry, it was very typically male dominated. Well everything was, wasn't it? So it's just And it it's now that it's kind of hitting a bit of a renaissance with with women, you know, female creators becoming much more prevalent.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

So they were there, yeah. They would have been around.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

So we have who's I've forgotten so Joelle Jones has done the cover for this one.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

I rather like that. Yeah, I like that a lot.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Yeah. Um having had a brief look through this, I underst what I understand is that Supergirl the World is a graphic novel that's coming out. I think they're sort of again, they're tying in with the fact that the film's coming out.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Advertising.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

This is marketing. Um, but it's being created by creative teams from around the world. Yeah. So there are separate there's going to be separate stories by different creative teams throughout the world. So the American one, because DC is an American company, is uh Joelle Jones has done the cover, and then there are two other people doing the the uh the main story.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Right. So you hadn't seen uh well you'd seen it, but you hadn't read this before now, had you? No.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

These these were given. Have you read it now? Have you just given it? No, I've I've literally looked through it, um, but that say these were given away free in comic shops to celebrate Supergirl Day. Oh right.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

So these That was this week, wasn't it, didn't you say?

SPEAKER_01 12:25

It was last last weekend, so just just over a week ago, just under a week ago.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

We're behind the times.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

So first she there she is, flying around. Mm-hmm. Like she does.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

And there she is, not flying around, being a normal person.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Well, what's interesting here is that she's in she's in a gallery somewhere, we were seeing lots of like Goya and other famous paintings here. So they're being they're being dropped into the into the comic story.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

Yes, yeah. And do these people know she's superhero not?

SPEAKER_01 13:06

I presume not. No. Usually you know, in superhero comics there are a certain amount of characters that know that the you know the main character is a superhero, but then there's also a lot of other people that know them just as a normal person.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Yes. I can't I know you said about keeping my legs still 'cause I've got this on my lap.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

I can't. So I'm sorry, people that I can't I just can't think my legs still. What's happening there? Water coming in.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

So she's going flying off and it goes, it's the cursed mountain.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

Um it doesn't Oh it's not really clear, is it?

SPEAKER_01 13:48

It looks like she's going on to the and then she sniffs and it starts raining and there's uh what looks this could either this is either Spanish or Italian. I'm assuming Spanish, given that uh Annika is uh a Spanish artist writer.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Quick look up what what that means. Quick translate. You can't find your phone, can you? No's my one. Do you mind? I'm being a bit weirdly light-headed. Of course I can't find my phone.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

We're using it to video.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Hope you're not gonna edit that out. Give everybody a giggle. Should we just carry on? No. I've got to know. Oh, alright, well carry on and then I'll translate it later and by that time we'd be fed up with it, won't it? Anyway, there's these things, but some of it is in English, and I can see help. I got you! I don't know what she's got.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Because someone's fallen off a cliff, somebody's holding onto a cliff here, and they're falling down, and then Supergirl actually c actually cat catches her.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Yeah, you do a thingy might make seems bigger.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Magnifying glass.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Magnifying glass, that's it. To see that character, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Well, it's uh the colours are all very similar, so you you they they don't exactly stand out.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

No. I do like the cut the pat well anyway, I like it. The colours generally speaking. I can't see what's happening there.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

So she's talking to the character that she's saved, and she introduces herself and she says, Thanks very much, leading to for an introduction, and and Supergirl introduces herself as Supergirl.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

And she's not got a kit on, has she?

SPEAKER_01 15:49

She has, she has got her her uniform on. I think this is a contemporary take on uh her costume, so you she's still wearing the the red, red and blue with the big S on the top, but she actually wears like a cut-off leather jacket over the top of it.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

That's good. So she should have trousers on, shouldn't she? Yeah, she's she's gonna go up and fly through the air, you'd see her knickers, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_01 16:13

Well, there is this. She could be upskirted.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

Well, nobody'd have to do that really if she's flying through the air.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

No.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

I think next time you can do the pages, because I'm not very good at pages, evidently. I like this.

unknown 16:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

What's going on now?

SPEAKER_01 16:29

So it looks like there was some kind of like a volcanic volcanic eruption or something like that, and she's talking to the other character.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

And they're both looking out, they're they're looking for something. Uh they're they're sort of I don't know, like a almost like a vision, like a psychic vision. And there's a full, really nice full page of um it's very nice.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

A Hispanic looking character surrounded by or I think these are oranges at the top.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

Oh, these the what this one she's just um you know, should just rescue.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

It could be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Right, and we go on and Oh, we've gone to Berlin. Berlin.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

We haven't finished that so that's this is the end of the I assume Spanish story.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, but not but nothing's happening. She's going home.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

She's going home for tea.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

I don't know, she's flying off into the sky.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Yes. Well, we're bored with that. Onwards.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

So the next story we're looking at we're shifting into Berlin, which is where um Yam and Marie Marie is certainly from but we know she's from Berlin.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

And what's his name?

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Jan Krull. Krell.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Mm-hmm. And Marie Sam. Yeah. Sen.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

I saw that she's defin she she's got Berlin as her place of residence on on Instagram. On her feed. So presumably hey. I really, really like this style. It's more it's more of a cartoony animated style here of artwork.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

Which is really nice.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Yeah. I guess that's because I've I've grown up liking cartoons.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Well I I'd call that a cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Yeah, I mean to me, the the first story is more is more traditional in the way it's drawn. Yeah, traditional comic book. This to me is far more like animation, like an animated style. So really nice colouring and gradient stuff that I you know, you can you can tell it's been like coloured on a computer.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Yeah, I prefer the per the first one, even if the story made very little sense to me. But then it's just a taster, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 18:50

Yeah, so the yeah, these are these are sort of setting the scenes from from the graphic novel that's due to come out.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

I wonder where this place is, does it say?

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Well, I I believe it's actually set in Berlin because that's the that's the gate.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

That's the isn't it called the West Gate that's in Berlin? No, it's something else gate, isn't it? It's to do with the um um post-war stuff, isn't there? And the annexation of East Berlin.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

I like what they're doing here though. Each creative team is setting the story in their own in their coun in their own country.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Yeah. Now you've said the West Gate, I'm thinking no, that's not it, but I can't think what the real thing is. Oh well, more research. Or I'll just ask Julian, I'll vive on.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

So we've got uh uh the character here, Supergirl, is in there in a coffee shop talking to what looks like an Arabic person.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

I can't wouldn't be better.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

And then they're wondering oh, it's a taxi. She's off in a taxi somewhere. You know, she's looking a little bit cross there.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

So something put her in the some kind of So there's some kind of little creature here. It's it looks like it's an a kind of looks like an alien cat, and she um Supergirl is here to rescue the cat character.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

But it I think it's put her into a force field. Thank you. Bubble was the word I was actually looking for. Yes, moving on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

So Supergirl here whistles and crypto the super dog, because there is a super there's of course there's a super dog who's gonna be it's gonna be in the film as well.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

Now we've just been watching Supergirl on on yeah, we've been watching it on ITV, the Supergirl series.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Yeah. That's right. Where's the dog? Crypto hasn't come into it yet. Uh I can't I think crypto originated in the 1950s, and in this new universe that they're setting up, crypto is kind of like a sidekick to Supergirl as opposed to Superman.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

But where is crypto in the series we're watching? Is it going to come in?

SPEAKER_01 21:17

I don't know. I don't know because I've we're finding out as we go along watching it. I know I know little bits and pieces about the characters. But crypt crypto was you know, was their was the family pet on on the planet Krypton before they all left.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Well first I've heard of it. And I like I like Superman films or the original Superman films, because I quite liked Christopher Reeve.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Who it's very sad, isn't it? He played Superman in the films. Yeah. And I really like those films.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

In the late seventies, early eighties. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

And uh sadly he fell off a horse, didn't he? His back and broke his neck, I think.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

So he was completely paralysed.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

That's right, and he couldn't speak or breathe either, could he? And he had all um things that but in eventually he died. I can't remember why he died from probably a respiratory disease.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

I think he's got breathing complications or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

But he ran out of money for his um medical bills, isn't he? Because he's in the US where for some peculiar reason they don't have an NHS. No. Like we are, and I'm so grateful for my the NHS because no number of times I've fallen over, including last week. Yeah and bone bone in my foot. Anyway, but he ran out of money for paying for his very expensive bills, and that actor Robin Williams.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Yes. They were so Robin Williams and Christopher Reeve were at drama school together, so they they'd known each other since they were like in their early twenties. So that they they I believe they actually, you know, in a typically in America they say dormitories and quite often they'll share rooms. And I as far as I know, Christopher Reeve and Robin Williams shared a room when they were at drama college together and became really good friends.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Well, yes, they were proper friends too. If I've forgotten his name now, not Christopher Reeve, Robin Williams. Robin Williams for doing such a big thing and supporting his friends. So well, I'm so impressed by that. And then sadly, he committed suicide because he didn't think it was good enough, didn't he? That's really true. I mean, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Robin Williams did a lot for people uh when he was making films and stuff like that. He he put stipulations into the contracts that local people and especially homeless people must be given jobs working on the films and stuff like that. He he was a good person. He was a he was amazing. He really already.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

I wish I could tell him before he did that. Stop being silly, you have a good person. Yeah. But it's not his mental illness, isn't it? Yeah, he was by the way. Sadly. Yeah. Yes, awful. Anyway, let's come back to this.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Oh, they're in a bit of a Barney with somebody who's stolen the cat, or is it's trying to steal the cat creature, and Supergirl has turned up now in full co in full costume and has has stopped her doing what she's wanted to do, which is run off with this I shoot alien cat. Yeah, there's the two female characters.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Are you sure? Yeah. Very quite a flat-chested female character, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Definitely I would say they're definitely female.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

If you say so, you know best you're the artist. I must be wrong. And then they go home for tea.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

So she saves this little cat type character, and we see Supergirl and and Crypto flying off at the end. He's got a cape. Yeah, crypto has a cape. He is a super dog.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Oh my giddy, Alan. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

And now given that this was this is put out as a as a free comic, DC have taken the opportunity to promote do to advertise some of their other stuff that they're putting out. The um finest is like their sort of like flagship characters like Batman and Superman and so on.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Mmm. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

There's graphic novels that have collected with the stories in and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Build your DC five finest library. No, thank you. You've got one already, haven't you?

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Yeah. Yeah, I used I used to read so in back in the 80s when I really started to collect comics, I read a lot more DC titles. I don't think at the moment I'm actually reading a DC title. Um I'm reading if I'm reading mainstream comics, it's my it's Marvel. Uh but I mainly mainly read indie or small press comics.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

This is probably the most mainstream comic that we've looked at so far.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Well, there we are. Really, it's just taste of things, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

So this here, this this spread we can see here. So this is the it's a reprint of the front cover that Joelle Jones has done, and then it's given all it's listing all the countries that are taking part in this graphic novel, Supergirl graphic novel, it's telling you about the creative teams from each country.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Is this these the names I could of the people I've researched on there?

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

So if I'd have gone to the end of the I didn't see it all and before.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

But it's good that you no, but it's good that you did the research. It was a bit of a flip flip over this week because you've done the research and found out about stuff. I use what of the little knowledge I've got of DC comics and and their kind of universe.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Yes, yeah. I couldn't be bothered to do anything else really. I was just Well, I'm stuck here with a bro broken bone in my foot. More injuries, so I may as well do something useful. Alright, crypto.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

So last year there was a uh they did a a short mini series of um about crypto and using you know focusing on crypto as as the hero of the story. It'd be like Lassie, wouldn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

How many people are in the boat?

SPEAKER_01 27:29

I'm sorry, I've got to move. It's really good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

Mmm, and this is superhero girls.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

So this is this is again showing the slant in both Marvel and DC, given that they're the the two big publishers at the moment, they are playing up on female characters as opposed to male characters. They realize that there's a lot of girls who actually start uh uh do read as well as make comics. Yeah. So they're they're catering to their market.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Yes. Yeah. Silly Billy's not doing it before. It's the same as nearly every industry, ignore the women, and lose half your customers. Yeah. Superman, but it's not the real one. Real one's Christopher.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Yeah, this is from this is from the latest film, the film that came out last year.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

He's not the real one, I'm sorry, but not and this is just a load of advertising. Oh, you can spend money on t-shirts.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

You're no, I'm not gonna wear it, I'm not gonna get a supergirl t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Well, I'm definitely not. Right, and that that's other is that question.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

This Superwoman Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow was a graphic novel, um a series that was published a few years ago, and I think, from what I understand, is what they're using as the basis for the film that's just about to come out. So it's actually based on the comic the film that's coming out is actually based on the comics.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Yeah, I mean it's like watching that um series we've been watching. She's um an independent professional woman. Yeah. And they call her Supergirl. Now, if she was still at oops, I've just knocked the thing of my jig. If she was, you know, still at school and she was 15 or 16, it just makes me cross.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

I know it makes you cross. Because I I don't like people not saying and the back cover here is actually a uh poster advertising the film that's just come out. That's nice, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Yeah. I like the coat. I mean the the artwork on the coat.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

I think they're trying to make Supergirl a bit more edgy, a bit more sort of, you know, alternative.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

And not have all her boobs hanging out and everything.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Yeah. So there you go.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

That is well that's us cooked, isn't it? That was a bit of a muddle, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 29:52

A little bit of a muddly episode, but we were just we're mixing things up a little bit here with Eliza Moray taking the lead on on the research and Well and nothing that's in front of me. Yeah. None the why, severely. But yeah, so this time we'd kind of both of us have gone into it kind of blind. Uh I you know, I know a little bit about the character. I took the opportunity as these were free comic books, and it's nice to look at something from one of the bigger publishers, as we've mainly looked at independent publishers. Um, but there yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Well, I'm going to wait until all the films come on the television.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

I don't like the colour. I'm gonna go to the cinema and see it. I'll see you. Oh, I know what you're telling us. Yeah, yeah, yes. That is uh good. And I shall I shall ask um my son, yeah, I'll probably ask my son to do some German translating for me. We can always say it next week. And I'll do a little bit of Spanish translating properly, but it could be that's not a proper word. Could be. You know, it's like worshaw and or what have you.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

Anyway, I've fed up with doing this now. Okay. So I'm gonna say bye. Bye! Thank you, thank you. Oh, hang on, I'm thanking people for listening. I mean they need congratulating to get this far with both of us, doesn't it? So thank you for looking. Bye.