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The Hidden Health Crisis Killing Entrepreneurs | Justin Roethlingshoefer
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What if everything you’ve been told about health… is incomplete?
In this episode of the Gold Coast Podcast, host Eric Winegard sits down with Justin Roethlingshoefer, founder of Own It Coaching and a leader in holistic performance, to break down the truth about mental, physical, and spiritual health.
From high-performing entrepreneurs burning out… to why discipline isn’t actually the problem… this conversation dives deep into what it really means to “own your health.”
Justin shares powerful insights on:
Why success can actually hurt your health
The biggest lie high performers believe
How stress is silently destroying your body
The connection between spirituality and performance
Why most people are living misaligned lives
The overlooked biomarker that reveals EVERYTHING
This isn’t just about fitness.
This is about alignment, purpose, and becoming the best version of yourself.
👉 If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or like something is missing… this episode is for you.
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Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Gold Coast Podcast. I am your host, Eric Weingard, and today we have a very, very talented and inspirational individual, Justin Rothlingschaufer. And uh he is the owner, president of Own It Coaching, correct? Own at Coaching. And this gentleman is doing some mind, body, spirit, impact like nobody I've ever met. And I'm beyond excited to dig in with you today, Justin. How are you? It's so good to be here. Appreciate your Eric. It is nice when you can meet them organically, though, because it's under, you know, different pretense. Yeah, different pretense for sure, you know. And uh, but it would be cool for me to interact with them one day. I I I know what I'm really this is a total different conversation. Alex is the GOAT right now. I'll get that out of the way. When it comes to marketing, you know, I follow all of his stuff, I try to implement all of his stuff. My skill set though, just to be selfish here for a second, is is I know if if I get a door open, I I blow it open, you know, and and I'm so I'm a marketer, but I'm a sales first marketer.
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_01Right? So like I I know a sales for, I know sales coaching, I know how to do salesmanship myself, I know how to build people to build sales leaders, which is an extra layer. And then I understand the value of networking, and I understand the value of paying$100,000 to be in a room. Yep. Whereas most marketers don't know how to do that other stuff. Yep. You know, usually they're they're not like Alex, I feel like is cool. He's like jacked, and he's he seems like a cool dude, and he I could tell he's I could tell he's wildly intelligent, I can see he's funny. And um, you know, but most of them are usually just kind of like nerdy little guys that just are trying to get leads, they don't know how to be the face of a brand the way the way Alex does.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's it's a very holistic experience. And kind of what you were talking about, it's it's not put all your eggs in one basket, but rather understand the entire game that goes into it. Because I I think you would agree with this, is uh there's no better equity than relational equity. And when you create relationships with people, you really start to be able to understand who they are. And when you have the right relationships, my God, all I want to do is I just want to, I just want to help you. I don't expect anything in return. And so if I know somebody that you need to meet, or if all of a sudden I understand your skill set and one of my buddies now needs somebody and I trust and like you, my gosh, why would I not make that introduction? Why would I not go and put you in another room? And that's the thing that um I think a lot of people miss in this entrepreneurial journey, is they focus so much on the sale and the short-sightedness of what happens now rather than the long journey that you're actually going on in business. It's some, it's it's something to run a business for five years, it's another run for 50. And I'm not in it for a short term, I'm in it for a long term. And I think Alex, uh, as you as you talk about that, it it requires that holistic understanding of marketing. It's not how do you win in the ads game, how do you win in uh the podcast game, how do you win in the YouTube game, how do you win in the long-form content game, how do you win in the email market? Because it's always gonna change. Yeah, it's always gonna change. But if you have a holistic like uh equity component of all those pillars that you spoke about, that's that's what creates. I call it the ecosystem.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yeah, it's the ecosystem, right? So it's like um, yeah, they all kind of help each other, or like a flywheel, it's like a you know, a circle with a bunch of spokes in it, or a wheel with a bunch of spokes. They're all kind of filtering to each other. Yeah, you know, like I can't tell you how many times, so I run a lot of ads in Boca, so people will see my face all the time, and I'm kind of recognizable, like you know, with the beard and everything.
SPEAKER_00So the Dan Belzarian look, dude.
SPEAKER_01Wait till uh wait till I get started on that. But a lot of times my salespeople say, Oh, Eric, you know, I met with this person and they remembered your ad. So it helped me close the deal. Dude, can we talk about that real quick? So this is a short beard for me right now.
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_01I told my guy shorten it up, but it's usually a little longer. But when I just kind of let it go, I have probably been mistaken for Danville's Arian five to seven hundred times.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. Five to seven hundred? Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
SPEAKER_01Want to hear a really cool story? So, so Patrick Bat David, like, so I'm part of uh, he has like this exclusive cigar lounge in Lauderdale. It's called the boardroom, and it's really cool. No cell phones are allowed and no cameras and everything. So I get these really cool invites, you know, randomly, like, hey, we're gonna do an emergency podcast with Andrew Tate. And you know, I get I get to go sit front and row and everything. And uh one time it was Eric Trump. So I get the secret invite. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say this. It can't be that bad, right? I don't think you're allowed to say it while it's going on, but after it happens, I guess. But you know, I get this invite hey, Eric Trump's coming on the podcast, you know, we want to invite you, whatever.
SPEAKER_00Well, you'll know if you're not allowed to say if your invite stop.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Fair, fair, fair. We don't have to post this. But um, but it was cool because you know, we got to watch Eric Trump, and then afterwards, you know, all of the platinum members got a chance to talk to him, shake his hand, get a quick photo op, you know. And um, so I see Eric, and and he's acting very presidential, super sharp guy, right? He's like shaking everybody's hand. I swear in my life, this is how happened. So I go up to Eric Trump, okay? I walk up to him and I go to shake my hand out. I see the total bro come out in Eric. He goes, yo, he goes, Dan, what's up, bro? And I'm like, and I was kind of taken back for a second. He's like, dude, you gotta come to the house, bro. You gotta come shooting. He pulls out his phone to give me his number. He goes, Man, I'll come shooting. I go, but I'm not Dan. So, like, there's been so many instances where like I've been mistaken for Dan Belzarian. Um, another kind of story, I had um, you know, my wife and I, another time I got mistaken for Dan Belzarian, my wife and I were out in Delray Beach. And my wife's beautiful. My wife is a 12, okay? So she's very secure in our relationship, you know. And uh this young pretty girl just like she was like starstruck or something. She just started freaking out all over me. She's like rubbing her butt on me, she's like grabbing uh her camera, taking selfish. She's like face-timing one of her friends, look, I'm with Dan Belzarian. So I get this like moment where it's like I kind of know what it feels like to be famous, even though I'm not Dan Belzarian, and my wife's just looking at this dumb young girl like he's not Dan Belzarian.
SPEAKER_00And I think what's funny about that is even when you start thinking about that's the power of brand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because Dan Belzarian has a brand, and the brand is everything you just talked about. The reason that that girl did all those things was because she knows that's his brand, and that's the what that's what's acceptable. And so that's what's that's what's able to be done. And there's no issue. So she's not thinking, oh, I'm gonna be like, there's anything wrong with that, is that's the brand that would be expected if that was truly who that was. And so that's the power brand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like the young guys that like slap me up, it the smile, like, you know, they just you can tell they just want to like go party with me. So funny. But I think he's a different, you know. I don't know the guy personally.
SPEAKER_00I don't know, I don't know anything about the dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think he's a changed man these days, you know.
SPEAKER_00He's on a he's uh he's he's definitely on a journey. Um and and I think you see that in like the cultural landscape, and I think it's really beautiful to see um like I I love the Lord, I'm a Jesus guy all day long. And um and uh I think you're seeing a um not just there's a lot of people jumping on the Jesus bandwagon um because it's the popular thing to do and it's the thing to get the click, but I truly um having been on uh I've been on tour with Brandon Lake and Phil Wickham for the last year, year and a bit, and um just truly seeing the hunger in our country for something deeper, something bigger, something that's more meaningful, something that creates uh that they're able to attach to. Uh, and I think you see that locally in in the city. Um, I mean, Rich Wilkerson Jr., what he's built with Vu and down in Miami and the movement of um uh that that that he's behind down there. It's it's it's wild to see the hunger of people and when the transformation comes, they just want more of it. And I think that's the the beautiful thing that you're starting to see. And there's people being more bold about it. There's people being uh willing to take a stand for it. Um and uh and it's reaching people like him who uh have been lost for a long time, and they're starting to ask questions because uh I I pray every single day, and Jim Carrey said it best is I hope everybody gets rich, I hope everybody gets famous, I hope everybody has uh unlimited resources because they'll realize that that's not the thing. And um there's always something deeper, there's always something bigger, and how do we find that true fulfillment uh internally in that one thing um that everybody's trying to fill is that Jesus-sized hole. How old are you? 37.
SPEAKER_0137. I'm 45. So you're born in 88? Yeah, okay. So I'm a completely different man than when I was young. Yeah. 19-year-old Eric was a wild animal. Yeah. Wild animal. And and I don't want to say demonic, sure. That's probably that's probably um that's probably aggressive, but playing in the devil's playground, yeah, you know, with you know, and what I realized was is because I fell into drug use, I fell into promiscuity, like really at a gross level, to be candid. And and it's like you think every time you're using drugs or consuming alcohol or some other female accepts you, it's like you think the accumulation of these things or something is is gonna fill some type of void.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But what I realized over time is that anybody that's a lot of times deep into drug use, you know, I get it, you're young and you're experimenting, I kinda get it. Sure. I'm not I'm not condoning it, yeah, but I kinda get a a dumb young person's brain. You get a little older and you continue that deep alcohol use and and deep um you know drug use or promiscuity, like you're you're running from something, I feel like, right? Totally. You're totally running from something, and and I feel like, you know, there's a place they need to be shown to run to. You know, and and and I have be um, you know, I've been on quite the spiritual journey over my life, and as of July, my wife and I are proud Christians.
SPEAKER_00Amazing, man. Praise God. That's so good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. We're very proud of it. So very proud. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think what I think what's so cool about what you're talking about is um, and I I want to know a little bit about like that journey for you, like how that how that happened. But you say everybody's running from something, and uh the culture has told us that uh we have discipline problem. We have discipline problem in um uh certain generations, or we have certain we have uh discipline problems in um uh in our culture. And the more that I've looked, the more that I've seen, the more that I've studied, uh I don't think we have a discipline problem. We have a direction problem because you have to be disciplined to build the business that you're building to reach to go after the money that you have. You have to be disciplined to build the certain life factors that you've allowed yourself to have these things with. Even to do to be a continual drug user, you have to be disciplined in the wrong areas. And so you don't have a discipline issue, you just have a direction issue. And we haven't ever really been able to disciple people along how do we create disciplines that are going to get us to the direction we're going for because we don't know the direction that we're going. And so there's this when we say that you're lost, is like you are literally lost because you're running into uh what culture tells you is popular, what culture tells you is great, which is I mean Romans 12, too. Do not conform to the patterns of the world, but rather be transformed by the renewing of your mind. It's the patterns of the world that will continue to pull you down, can continue to distract you, continue to disconnect you from your body, continue to divide you, and ultimately lead you to John 10:10, which is the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. And the destruction of this temple, this thing that has been built very good, the thing that God only said was very good, is always the downfall.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, not to make this a therapy session for myself, because I really want to learn more about you. But oh, going back to the very beginning, I do want to use this almost like the way Alex or Mosey used uh Tony Webb.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, full circle moment. Yeah, full circle moment. You like that?
SPEAKER_01I never forgot it. Well, you know how he kind of asks questions about his his own psyche and his own life journey, yeah. And I thought it turned into a great interview. I want to ask you some questions about my health. It's great moving forward. Yeah. Um, but getting back to that, I'm gonna spin it all over again. This is great, man.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, like health, health is holistic. Health is mental, physical, spiritual, emotional. You can't dissociate it. The moment you try to silo it is the moment people actually saw everything dysregulate and then continue to uh disintegrate. Yeah, um, and I think that's one of the biggest issues with health in our culture is that it's like, oh, I go to the gym and I eat well and thus I'm well. No, no, no, no. Like that's uh that's way, way, way uh inaccurate with the way that we've been developed, and which is why you've got people who have six-pack abs and rippling muscles and uh nail their macros, but yet are unhealthy as somebody who's got uh diabetes and uh chronic illness um in three different categories, and so it it's being able to see how every single uh portion mental, physical, spiritual, and emotional, all integrate together to find wholeness, which is what we were actually called to.
SPEAKER_01So interesting. So you you're so health is you have your physical health.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01Right, and I'm just talking through this with you. Yeah, obviously you have your physiological health too, right? And then I guess you have your psychological health. Yeah. Am I missing anything?
SPEAKER_00I'd say spiritual. There's a big spiritual component that comes into that because um I love the met I love the metric heart rate variability. Heart rate variability is the measurement of time intervals between each successive heartbeat. And what that does is it's our body's way of communicating, our body's language, as to saying how well we are handling stress and strain based upon our habits, behaviors, and daily life rhythms. The crazy part about this though is that our body cannot dissociate between mental stress, physical stress, spiritual stress, or emotional stress. So, for example, here, Eric, you could, um, and this is why this is why I just love this, right? So you could be living a life of duplicity.
SPEAKER_01I'm locked in right now. This is good, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00You could be living, you could be living a life of duplicity. You could go to the gym, you could be fit, you could be eating well, but you could be sleeping with a lady behind your wife's back. That mental, emotional, and spiritual stress would c would be cause so much internal dysregulation that heart rate variability would show that while at the same time lead you into some type of pre-diabetic state. Lead you into some type of insomnia state that then ultimately shows up in chronic anxiety. And we say we have a mental health problem, when actually no, we have a spiritual alignment problem because we're living a life of duplicity. Duplicity always leads to um uh fear and anxiety, where simplicity leads to freedom and joy. And so when we say this, and we come back to this, it's not uh I'll I'll even go back to this is you could go for a one-mile run, you could go and have a heavyweight session, you could go and have to fire a member of your team that I know is a part of your family, you could go and um be welcoming a new child into the into the world, you could go and be um um celebrating a life of somebody who just left this world. All of those are different forms of stress, but your body can't dissociate between them. Mental, physical, spiritual, emotional, past, future, or present, real or perceived, positive or negative stressors, the body just sees them as I have to keep you alive. And that's why health becomes so holistic and such this integrated play that becomes so fun to kind of work with people on.
SPEAKER_01Now, where are you from?
SPEAKER_00Canada.
SPEAKER_01Canada, I can tell. Where?
SPEAKER_00Edmonton, so way northwest.
SPEAKER_01British Columbia?
SPEAKER_00Uh Alberta.
SPEAKER_01Alberta.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01I got a lot of Canadian friends. Yeah. Ton of them. So I'm from Rochester, New York. Yeah. Which is on the border of Canada, basically, about an hour away.
SPEAKER_00My wife's from Buffalo.
SPEAKER_01Oh, no way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, cool. I'm a big huge Bills fan.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so are they. Or I guess so are we. Her family, uh Bill's Mafia Baby. Yeah, dude. We sit in it.
SPEAKER_01That's cool. Do you ever go up to Buffalo?
SPEAKER_00All the time. Yeah, I would say probably, I say all the time, probably twice a year.
SPEAKER_01Twice a year.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's a good amount.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So who's up there? What family's up there?
SPEAKER_00Everybody on my wife's side, but my wife's side is like 127 people direct. Whoa. Like a big, big, big family. So interesting. Yeah, birth control didn't exist in their in their family. Um, but uh it was um uh yeah, we we love going up there. They got a huge family. Uh her dad's a entrepreneur up there, mom's an entrepreneur. Um, yeah, just an awesome, awesome family, a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01The people are great up there.
SPEAKER_00It is such an amazing culture. Like, even um, so Eric Woods, uh, a good friend and a client of ours, and so just hearing the way that he talks about how the city just welcomes him and every coach that's ever been there uh has just loved it. A lot of people actually go and play in Buffalo and then actually retain um uh like their home there. Oh, because for sure. Because they just love it.
SPEAKER_01I think it's tricky. Like if you're uh it depends on your personality type, but if you're a 23-year-old guy and you know you want some night light, yeah, you're probably not gonna go to Buffalo. Yeah, you know, there's not a whole lot going on, but so I get it. You want to be in LA or Houston or Miami, but you know, it that's one of the reasons it's hard for them to attract free agents usually. Yeah, it's a young man's sport, you know. I get it. You know, there's a reason people aren't pounding on the doors of the Milwaukee Bucks.
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01You know?
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01But um, but yeah, you know, let me ask you a question. This is kind of a side note. Um, you know, you said that um you said that you brought up something that that I think about a lot, and you know, is men's faithfulness. Why is it such why is it such a common mistake?
SPEAKER_00So there's really two paths that you can kind of look at this, right? Um when it comes to kind of the direction they go. One is one is that they're trying to fill a void. They're trying to prove that they're man enough, they're trying to prove that they're um that they're that they are lovable, that they're good enough. And it's this constant pursuit. The second is, and this is oftentimes like where I see this, especially in like top 1% of men, um, like who are winning in business, winning in all these things, um, is that they've accomplished so many things, but there's this hook in their heart, there's unforgiveness in their heart, there's something that's separate because marriage is not easy, man. Marriage is a journey. Marriage is something that you have to constantly forgive, forgive, and forgive again. Um, you have to continually communicate, you have to continually start to uh find the reason and choose who you've decided to be with for a long time because uh God's put you with whoever you're with for a reason, and there's a call not only on your life, but on your marriage's life. And so, how do you continue to feed that? Or do you allow unforgiveness, resentment, bitterness start to creep in that creates division? And once that division hits, you start to go and look for the validation that you're good enough in other places, and all of a sudden, in that brief moment where you have somebody smile at you, you have somebody compliment you, you have somebody validate you, because they don't know you from Adam, they just know the superficial thing of what they've just said, it triggers that hook that's in your heart and goes, Oh my gosh, I can actually find what I used to have here, and all of a sudden you make a terrible decision, a terrible choice. And so it constantly comes back to uh honestly, men not being spiritually aligned, not knowing who they are, not knowing who they're called to be. And because of that, they try to find it in other places.
SPEAKER_01So I have an interesting, not challenging you, just an interesting take. An interesting take. I think sometimes, like once again, I'll be selfish again here. I'm gonna use myself as an example. Great. I remember when I was in my young 30s to mid-30s, sure. I started dating a girl. I kind of always always knew she wasn't the one. Yeah. To be candid, I fell in love with a stepdaughter. Yeah. Okay. But I fell in love, meaning like, sure, sure. You know what I'm saying? She's young, she's four years old, right? And but I did feel pressure to grow up, right? And you know, I thought 34 was old. And next thing I know, I get married, I'm in the wrong marriage, and to be candid, my eyes, you know, I didn't deviate, but my eyes always wandered in that relationship. Fast forward today, I fantasize about my own wife all day long. Right. I don't even think about anybody else. I I just, you know, if I think about that, I think about her. You know? And and yes, yes, I'm a different person today in a lot of ways. But part of me, the simple thing was, I feel like I just married the right woman and at the right time. And I and I feel like I observe a lot of these relationships. I think one of the common mistakes that people make is they get married too young or they have a child too young. Because as people are growing and maturing, they become, you know, a little bit different people here and there. And and yeah, what when you're a 22-year-old man, sometimes you are a freaking knucklehead, and it is a little bit tougher to maybe resist those urges than when you're mature at 35. How do you unpack that? Do you think there's some accuracy there?
SPEAKER_00So that there's a lot to unpack there. Yeah. Um, the f the thing you have to call out though is you are a different man. Like that's that's the fundamental component to it. You understand who you are better. You now have uh a faith center and uh that Jesus at the core of like what you do, and so there's a order to how you do things. You said uh there's a stat out there, I'm gonna get it wrong, um, but it's something to the fact where people who live in poverty, um, I think 75% of them uh are in poverty, uh, had a child before marriage. Um and then that number escalates to 90% if you've had a child before marriage and haven't gone to college. And so you you there there's an order to how things happen for a very specific reason. And our God is a God of order. It's a it's a God of order of how uh we is how we live. And when I say the disciplines of how we live, the disciplines of what we choose is do you go to bed and wake up at a consistent time? Do you eat a certain way? Do you um uh do you get do you allow God to get into your head before you get into your head in the morning? Do you have scripture before technology? Do you have all these things in order that help to shape you? And when we start to talk about even, and and I love the concept of men. I love discipling men. I think uh I was a lost boy at one point and uh became found and became um uh and became a transformed person. I think that's I think that's everybody's journey to a certain extent. Um but we start to look at like who are the mentors in your life, who's speaking into your life, who's guiding and developing you, and the the age of like 16 to 25 is such a transformational and formational years as to like who's the man that you're gonna be? Like, what's the values you're gonna stand for? What are you gonna actually start to um, who are you becoming? And when I say this, like I think a lot of people in the health space, they talk about intermittent fasting and your workout and your quiet time and your journaling and your sauna and your cold plunge. And it all becomes about the disciplines. And I always say that it's the disciplines were never the goal. The disciplines were always the path to the goal, because the goal is to become more like Christ, to become the man that you've been called to be, to be formed, shaped, led, and discipled into that person. And all the disciplines do is they start to chip away at who that person is not, because this is where we come back to the concept that I talked about of simplicity versus duplicity, is a lot of men are living a duplicative life, one way in public, another way in private, saying they're doing the work but not actually doing the work, pretending but not realizing and telling the truth. But when you're living a life of simplicity and you're and you're continuing, and I'm not saying simplicity is not perfection, simplicity is development, simplicity is growth, simplicity is exploration, simplicity is being spoken into and risen up and called up by somebody else who's ahead of you. You see all of these patterns. It's no different in leadership, it's no different in business, it's no different in um uh health, it's no different in marriage. You're always trying to move towards that person that you're called to be. And there's a learning path that comes with this, which is why mentorship and coaching and teaching and guiding is so um is so incredible.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, you're you're uh you got you got me a lot chewing on a lot here. It's good in a healthy way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I have a I have a really cool take on something. I want to hear your take on it. So um I've been around a lot of men in my life that are, and my wife too, by the way, that are I don't even want to say the word alpha because I I think alpha is the wrong wrong way to say this. Want to be alpha, right? So like toughness matters, you know, being the loudest in the room matters, yeah. Right? And that's like their perception of alpha, right? And unfortunately, one of the things that I had to deal with in my life, you know, um, my mother was very abusive to me when I was younger physically, and I was a very angry person. Yeah, you know, you don't go back and hit your mom, it's just a weird thing to do. Sure. So I would go around and hit people, yeah, right? And and I just learned, unfortunately, I learned to handle conflict with aggression. Yeah. Okay. Took me a long time to calm it down. Now, what was always going on in my head is I'm a strong, athletic, capable person, right? And uh, but in my head, like, unlike I feel like a lot of these other men, I think sometimes, like if you just see a guy who has a temper, and let's say he is on the bigger, stronger side, and he just has a temper, what a lot of people will say to him is that, well, that's just who he is, who he is. You'll never break through to him. Uh, that's just his ego getting in his way. Where my ego flipped was I have such an ego that I feel like I should learn how to control myself during times of conflict and not let myself lose control. So my ego took me to the point to where if if you do have a desire to cheat, if you do have a desire to do, I don't know, some recreational weird thing, I don't know, whatever, uh overconsumption of alcohol. Sure. Um, if you do find yourself lashing out at people, then if you really are an alpha and you really do have an ego, shouldn't your ego s be so strong that you want to become the best version of yourself? Isn't that what ego really should be? I I is there anything to on the back there?
SPEAKER_00It's unique. So I think, and and just in being in these spaces for a long time, I think the most, I think the strongest man, the most powerful man, yeah is the most submitted man. And it's submitted to Christ. Submitted to what he's wanting for you. And you become this obedient individual because you start to then obtain and uh walk with the fruits of the Spirit. Fruits of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, uh, faithfulness, self-control, all the things that you just spoke about, because you suddenly get in a situation and you're like, no, this is who I am. I am an obedient follower of Christ. And once you start to do these things, that's who I want to follow. Because that man has a light, that man has control of a room, that man has the eyes and the influence that everybody's actually looking for. But a lot of these alpha males talk about it in the sense of anger. And when you see it in an alpha male, I can pick it out a mile away. All that is, is that's an unhealed man. And unfortunately, an unhealed man bleeds all over those who he's trying to lead. And that's the hard part about unhealed men stepping into positions of leadership, and that's the unfortunate part of what social media has done. It's the unfortunate part of what even the coaching world has done, is that anybody can go and start a business who's really good at business and say, I want to create influence, I want to start shaping men, we have to go to war, we have to start doing these things, and they start getting just you can see them getting riled up literally in the moment. And it's not passion, it goes from passion to aggression because it's an unhealed heart as to things that they have not uncovered and dealt with. Just gaining awareness about something, gaining awareness about being abused as a child, being gaining awareness about um losing a business, losing a child, uh, divorce, just having awareness of that and saying, yeah, that happened and talking about it, that's not healing. That's not finding forgiveness. When you truly find forgiveness, there is a freedom that surpasses all type of understanding, and that's where the wholeness of health comes from. And suddenly the best indicator, because I'm the first person to say that I was a guy that was triggered all the time. My biggest fear was that I would not be impressive. And if I wasn't impressive, then I would be nothing, and if I was nothing, my soul would die. That was the story my heart told me. That was the story that um uh I told myself all the time. Uh I had been um sexually abused um in uh in college, um, and so I had a hard time trusting men. I had a hard time trusting men for a long time. Um I had a father who was amazing, an amazing man, um, but not available emotionally for me. Um and pressured me huge in uh in in hockey, and I found love in performance. And so I taught myself that if I performed well, I was worthy of love, and all of a sudden those that I was performing for were men, and there was this gap that came in as soon as um as soon as the sexual abuse happened. And so there was this anger that I had to, if if there was a moment that I didn't feel worthy, right to anger, like that was my thing, and I showed up in that of aggression, I would talk louder and it would show up in every relationship that I had. And until my heart was healed and I could talk about it, and somebody would, uh my wife would say something and challenge my character or challenge um uh challenge a decision I made, I no longer took it. Let me back up because that's not what I was trying to say. The moment she challenged me on a decision I made, I realized she's not challenging my character, she's just challenging the decision. And so that doesn't cause me to get angry because it doesn't trigger it anymore, because I've healed the wound of what I've actually had to go through, and years and years of years of those um hooks that had been in my heart have now been unhooked, and this heart is battled and bruised, but my gosh, there's a lot of scars on it. The problem is that a lot of men don't get to the point of scar, they stay in the place of wound, and wounds get infected, and when we lead from infection, we just bleed over all everybody else and infect everybody else. And we see this so much in male leadership.
SPEAKER_01Just so you know, wait till we cut that up. When you said that's wounded men and they bleed over the others, you watch how viral we make that go. That was that hit me. I felt that that gave me chills, that was really good. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what what this is, and you know, my background, I'll tell you kind of a cool story. Yeah, you know, I've always had a psychological brain, psychology brain. Yeah, I remember, you know, I was doing drugs, I was 19 years old. I remember we were sitting under a bridge, I'm with my group of friends. My brain has always worked like this. And I remember I looked at all of them. I think we were doing ecstasy or something, I have no idea what crazy stuff. And it clicked with me. I looked at all of them, and I said, none of us have a dad. Not a single one of us have a father. Yep. One buddy's father passed away young, the other one didn't have a relationship with, the other one didn't have a relationship with, the other one was in a coma, uh, his whole childhood, and and mine just, you know, I never had a father in my life, my mother never really gave me an answer. And uh it was impossible, and I knew back then that it made me realize how shaped I was by not having a father. Yeah, and even though I couldn't put my finger on how am I different versus you know, not having a father versus having a father, like, oh, am I, you know, do I talk different, do I move different, do I act different? But I knew in that moment, yeah, I was different because for better and for worse in so many ways. And but I just knew that that was impossible to be a um a coincidence, and then I knew that not having a father, that was the first time it really opened up my eyes that it had changed the trajectory of my life one way or another. And you know what? If I did have a good father, I probably wouldn't have been under that bridge doing drugs.
SPEAKER_00And and you know what's cool about what you're just saying is this is why I love I love working with men. I love being able to pour into men, disciple men, guide them, lead them. Because uh you want to change the culture of a country, you start with the household. You start with the father because the father influences the son, the father influences um the uh the daughter, the father influences uh the wife, but it has to come from a healed place. And the first thing that I always say to men, and I'll say it to you, is you may not have an earthly father, but men, you have a heavenly father that is far greater, far superior, far more loving, far more omnipotent, far more forgiving than anybody who you could have had the perfect father on earth. And when we start to realize that, there's a healing that takes place because uh I I I still remember the day that um I this is gonna sound crazy, but I still remember the day that um I met my parents for the first time. And what I mean by that is it was the first time that I saw my dad as David and my mom as Evelyn, not as mom and dad. I saw them as human beings. I saw them as people who had flawed upbringings, I saw them as people who um uh didn't have the perfect stories. I saw themselves as the people who were trying to develop themselves. I saw themselves, I saw them as people who um are are battling to do the best that they can for me and my sister. I saw that I still remember that moment. And instead of the anger or resentment, I had this deep like level of like compassion and empathy because I'm gonna be that person someday where I've got children that I'm trying to be the best and guide them and lead them. And what it put on me was suddenly it goes, I have to become the best version of me. I have to heal my heart, I have to walk in obedience to what I'm being called to. I have to go down this road and start to explore how do I get around really good people who are ahead of me. And so my wife and I have marriage mentors who are 70 years old, that have been married for 50 uh 51 years. Like, how did you navigate that? What does that look like? I've got men who speak into my life that are 20, 30 years my senior and are some of the best men that I know, that are not just winning financially, are not just winning physically, but they're winning in everything. Like, how have you been able to do that? And the commonality of every single one of them is they have a deep relationship with God. And what I've been able to say to myself is if I have a if I have a skill set that I am so proud of, it's that I'm obsessively obedient. Obsessively obedient not to what I say, not to my will, but to what God's asking, even if it doesn't make sense. And that is how I start every single day. That's where I rest every single day, that's how I uh begin every single day, it's how I end every single day. And that journey of being shaped, discipled, and healed has allowed me to see exponential growth and the fruit that other people desire. Because my gosh, go have the biggest house, go have your choice of seven different cars, go have your choice of women, there will be a lack of peace, there will be a lack of joy, there will be a lack of love, there will be a lack of freedom, and you'll be searching for something because it's just an unhealed heart.
SPEAKER_01You know, um I'm trying I'm I'm also asking these questions because one I'm interested in two, I'm trying to phrase them in a way that gets you to say something badass, and and you're you've been crushing it. Um I have a theory. Tell me if you agree or disagree. Sure. I believe part of the spiritual war is to keep uh try to keep us physically and physiologically unhealthy. A thousand percent. Because I believe it's harder to get in tune with with the Holy Spirit. A thousand percent. Because I've noticed for me, like when I'm you know, right now I'm probably like I've lost four percent body fat. Like, you know, I'm a strong dude, don't get me wrong. I'm probably you know, probably 19% body fat right now, about 252, 253, 6'0. So you know, I got some size on me, right? And and so I've lost a little bit of weight and and I'm I'm already I'm feeling so much better. And then what it does for my psyche is it just puts me in this I don't want to say fight or flight, but like uh that that's bad, but just such an alert state, yeah, right? And when I'm in that state is when I can truly open up, I feel like my spirituality even more. But when I'm you know, if I'm drinking on the weekends, eating like crap, not really doing my workouts, and I'm not feeling good, it's it's very tough to be in tune spiritually. Do you think there's something to that?
SPEAKER_00This is why this is why I love the health space. This is it's it's it's what's propelled me from uh all of my education to all of my experience to all of what I've lived through, is because what you're saying is 1,000% true. We are spiritual brief spiritual beings having a human experience. And when you sit in this and you realize that you carry the Holy Spirit, you're the only thing that carries the Holy Spirit, you're the only thing that carries your calling. And the enemy knows that. And so if he can distract you, if he can medicate you, if he can uh sedate you, then what he can do is he can ultimately keep you back from being connected with the one thing in which where you've been put on this earth for. And think about exponential growth. If your business this year does X, and next year it does X, next year it does X, it's exponentially growing. And so the impact and influence that you have today is exponentially smaller to what it will be in five years. And so if he can pull you down and hold you back and even knock you off and and and have cause you to die, every year after is exponentially growing. And so we are this the other thing that I want to call out that people need to know is um we live in a body, and this body, yes, although it is temporary, it has great value. Jesus came in a body, he walked out of the tomb in a body, and he will come again in a body. Your body matters because your body is the physical expression of the spiritual connection that you carry. And the way that we treat this thing is solely dependent on whether we can carry the calling that has been placed on your life. And when we start to establish the disciplines, the disciplines of uh the rhythms that God created in in Genesis, created the rhythm of breath. Well, we stop breathing. We hyperventilate when we get angry, we uh stop breathing when we're doing our work, creates anxiety. When we um uh fall away from the rhythm of seasons, allowing uh ourselves to have seasons of down seasons and seasons of push seasons. And we just now push all the time. We continue to uh find ourselves getting disrupted. When we forget the season of evening and morning, I I think this is the coolest one in Genesis. It says, evening came, morning came first day. Repeats it six times. We think that the morning starts our day and the evening ends it when we collapse into bed. We've got it backwards. Evening is sacred time to rest and recover, where the morning time is now time to go. It's time to go serve. And that's your day. And so when we start to get these rhythms in place and we start to get back in tune, we start to feel a level of completeness. We start to feel a level of connectedness because that's always what we're looking for: connection with ourselves, connections with others, and connections with God. And when you find that by rhythms, habits, and behaviors, the only option, the only option is to thrive. Because we were created to heal, created to thrive. That's how we were created. Cellular human beings. 30 trillion cells inside each and every one of you, uh inside each and every one of us. 84 um every 84 days, 500 million of those become completely brand new. That means that every five to seven years, you and I become a completely brand new cellular human being. We were built for longevity.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_00But the way we live pulls us the opposite direction, which is into decay and death.
SPEAKER_01I love your energy and passion. You know what I want to do, and I'm sorry we're sweating up a storm in here. I want to ask you some uh, I'm gonna put in your website real quick and I'm gonna go to chat GPT.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, and I'm gonna type in, Dave, we get this guy like a tissue or something. I feel like I'm just schwitzing here. No, you're we're just getting this dude's sweat. All right. That's great. This works really well for clips. So what's your website again?
SPEAKER_00Ow it um O W N I T. Ownit Coaching.
SPEAKER_01Oh, own it coaching, that's right.
SPEAKER_00Yep.com.
SPEAKER_01So I'm gonna ask you some rapid fire questions. We'll get we'll just talk about health. Cool. You know, actual but this has been great, man. I'm I'm really enjoying this. I love it. What's the biggest lie high performers believe about their health?
SPEAKER_00The biggest lie people typically believe about their health is they can deal with it later. Um, that it doesn't impact their performance, that they um because I again when you think about this, these high-performing people, high capacity leaders, they're typically in seats where they're serving everybody. They are serving their team, they're serving their family, they're serving their kids, they're serving their spouse, they're serving their community, they're serving their church. They're the people who have always been dependent upon. And thus it's been, and this is the coolest thing that I love about this, is it's always a slow drift. It's never like you went to bed fit, you woke up unfit. You went to bed with a bunch of energy and you woke up and suddenly had none. It was a slow drift over a number of years. And the unawareness or lack of awareness of what they're doing daily, a life by default, I call it, versus a life by design, ultimately brings people to that state where one day they wake up and go, How the heck did I get here? I'm exhausted and I can't figure it out. And that's where all of a sudden the marketing comes in of this health and wellness space, where it's like, do these three things inject this, um, do this, and we're gonna solve your problems when we actually haven't eliminated the dysfunction in how you're living that resides underneath it all. And so the lie that high performers uh often believe, or high capacity leave uh people often believe, is that they're one action step away and a quick fix away from transforming their life.
SPEAKER_01Okay. What does owning your health actually mean in one sentence?
SPEAKER_00Taking ownership of your health means to step into full responsibility of what you've been gifted with so that you can now steward the greatest gift that God's ever given you.
SPEAKER_01What is one mindset what is one mindset shift that changes everything?
SPEAKER_00The the biggest mindset shift is that your your body is something to steward. Just as your business is something to steward, just as your family is something to steward, your body is something to steward. I think we think about it as an afterthought. It's this thing that uh the world says is uh is is uh supposed to be um uh put up on TV screens and out for full display, and we're supposed to uh uh celebrate vanity. And the downside is that culture, again, celebrates the things that are not holistic. It celebrates the quick fixes, it celebrates the things that ultimately cause us to want to look for those things. Like, how do I get the six packet abs and the muscles? Because that's what is celebrated, that's what is vaulted. And instead, when we actually start to live a life by design, when we actually start to walk in uh full alignment with how we were created, we go back to our divine design and we get true with that. How wild is it that the consequence is actually what we were looking for in the first place? Which is to be fit, which is to be lean, which is to be energetic, which is to be mentally clear, which is to be emotionally stable, which is to be spiritually rich, and which is to leave live fully aligned, which is life and life abundantly. John 10, 10, the full promise. What's what's your body fat percentage? Right now, about nine.
SPEAKER_01Nine, you're pretty shredded. I'm looking at how your forearms and your biceps. So what's optimal body fat percentage?
SPEAKER_00For men uh for men, you want to be below 12%. Okay. Yeah, below 12% is really where you want to live.
SPEAKER_01I was at 30% at one point.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean not a 19, thank god.
SPEAKER_01Might even be 18.
SPEAKER_00I mean, when and and here's the thing, when you start to think about it, the the and and this is probably true for you is you're you're building something, you've got this creative gift, you've got this passion and this drive to help people and serve people in the avenue that you've been called to and created to go. And here's how we often find ourselves getting into these habits and patterns is you've got this vision for what this company is, has become, and will become. And the thing is, is that you've got so much drive for it that it's continued causing it for for many a year, it's probably caused you to drift from the things that you should have been prioritizing, that if you were to do the things that are upside down and backwards and put your life in proper order, everything that you were desiring, you would have more energy to do what you're doing. You would have more creative outbursts, you would have more revelations, you would have more time freedom. But we think if we control the thing that we are unaware of and we continue to keep pushing, continue to keep burning the candle at both ends, continue to keep driving, that we're gonna get where we want to go faster, which is the ultimate lie.
SPEAKER_01You kind of answered this, but I'm trying to give you a couple more good ones. Sure. What's the most important biomarker that people ignore?
SPEAKER_00A day the most important day-to-day biomarker people ignore and or have no idea what it is, is heart rate variability. Because this is literally your body's communication factor and communication center as to how is your habits, behaviors, and daily lifestyle rhythms adapt. How is your body adapting to them? Is it adapting positively or is it adapting negatively? Are things out of order or out of rhythm in your life, or are they exactly where they need to be? Because I like to think about heart rate variability almost as like a capacity metric. Is if you have a low HRV, that capacity is low. If you have a high HRV, your capacity is high. You're A, you feel better, you're able to think more clearly, you're able to push harder, you're coming home at night and uh you're not trying to go on social media or drown yourself in uh in your phone when actually you should be with your kid. There's an overflow that you're living for and or living from. And so I would always say uh a daily biomarker that we need to look at that's overlooked is heart rate variability. Um and then um, yeah, I would just I'd no dude, this is this is awesome.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to get some really good clips. Um yeah, no, well, after this uh heat onslaught, I apologize. Oh you're good. I'm gonna get on my team about it. Do me a favor, take a look into that camera with that handsome face of yours. Yeah. And uh that 9% body fat. You guys got me ready to go fasting for a week. Um, you know, kind of give your 30-second plug on your business, who should reach out to you, and if they do want to reach out to you, where's where can they find you?
SPEAKER_00If you're a business owner, an entrepreneur, and you know that you've got another level inside of you, but you have slowly drifted from where you're at. You've lost confidence in how you feel, you feel stuck in your health holistically, you don't know where to turn, you're confused and overwhelmed with what the step first step is to go. Own at coaching has literally been designed for the entrepreneur, for that high capacity leader, for the person who has a vision, who has a family, who wants to be the best both in business and at home. And what we've been able to do is we've been able to build your entire health executive team. Just like you've created an executive team to be able to steward your business well, we've created the executive team to be able to steward your health well. Everything from the deep intracellular testing, the DNA up genetic testing, the nutrition coach, um, uh, the strength coach, the functional medicine doc to go on this journey with you to not just transform your health physically, but to transform it holistically, mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally, so you can realize life and life abundantly. And that's the transformation that you're actually searching for.
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