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Episode 11: I DATED A REAL LIFE BILLY LOOMIS (GHOSTFACE)

Archie & Sam Season 1 Episode 11

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This episode of the Problematic podcast features hosts Sam and Art reuniting after about a month off. They engage in a candid, rambling conversation covering topics ranging from lifestyle updates to personal relationships and the challenges of dating.

Key Highlights:

•Catching Up: The hosts discuss their recent lives, including Sam’s experience "attending" Coachella from her garage (1:21–1:58) and Art’s humorous attempts at dieting and fasting (3:42–4:00).
•Dating and Relationships: Art opens up about reconnecting with a former flame named Richard (4:44–5:30), whom he has known since the MySpace era (5:42–6:50). They discuss the complexities of modern dating, the pressure to conform to societal norms like starting families (15:15–16:00), and the hosts' personal stance on choosing not to have children or get married (17:49–18:05).
•Past Heartbreak: Art shares a deeply personal story about a past relationship with someone he calls Anthony, who he met on a Scream 4 message board (21:50–22:05). He details the emotional toll of that relationship, dealing with Anthony's closeted nature, paranoia, and mental health struggles (22:48–24:15).
•Moving Forward: The hosts discuss the importance of being okay with being alone and why they prefer not to "start over" with new partners (27:40–28:05). They emphasize the value of self-acceptance and moving on from past trauma (26:10–27:35).

Important Resource:
At the end of the episode (29:58–30:37), the hosts share a public service announcement regarding mental health, encouraging anyone struggling to reach out for help via the National Suicide Prevention Hotline or Safe to Help Illinois (844-472-3345).

SPEAKER_01

What the fuck? Are you why is your phone ringing? It's not. It is.

SPEAKER_03

This is a stupid car. Alright, well, let's get into it. Hey everybody, welcome back to the channel.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, I do hear that echo now.

SPEAKER_03

See?

SPEAKER_01

Hey guys, welcome back to Problematic. You know what for the last few weeks? I was just like, I don't think we're ever gonna come back. Like, we're almost to like a month or like the last few weeks, you dumb slut. It's been like almost a month. The last time we recorded was March 31st. What are you talking about? Yeah, it was. I was just like, I'm like, shit, let me go get an application at the Burger King. You know, let me, you know, like I'm out of a job. But Sam's back, y'all, after she canceled on me without telling me.

SPEAKER_03

So I hear your life is in shambles. Talk to Dr. Sam.

SPEAKER_01

My life is in shambles, guys. Like, I've been going through it. Um, by the way, I just got back from Coachella. Thank you guys. Chella. Just got from Coachella. How was it? It was actually an experience. It was an experience because I experienced in my garage. I watched it on YouTube. But I was just like, oh, you know, I was watching the performances, I was watching Addison Ray, I was watching the XX, I was watching Justin Bieber, you know, going on YouTube, just playing videos, you know.

SPEAKER_02

It was it was a moment.

SPEAKER_01

It was a moment. Hey, by the way, you know, since you're first of all, can we just talk about no about the podcast real quick? You know it is April, right? And you know where I'm going with this. You know it's April, right? And there you are in your car, eating your life away, eating Taco Bell. Well, good thing.

SPEAKER_03

It's a salad, bitch.

SPEAKER_01

You're eating a fucking salad from Taco Bell. You are not eating a fucking salad. You are not eating a salad.

SPEAKER_04

It's a taco salad.

SPEAKER_01

So it's everything that is on the taco butt on the salad form. Bitch, it's the same shit as the fucking taco. What do you mean? No, it's not. Then why is it so crunchy? Why is it crunching over there? Why are you it's crunchy? I mean you have you have the shell, right? The shell at the toppings. But anyway, Sam, I'm not here to um fat shame you. You know, life is doing that itself. But it is April and you're over there enjoying your taco salad from Taco Bell, and I'm over here enjoying my um granola bar and an orange. What?

SPEAKER_04

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_01

Oh by the way, I'm starting to fast again.

SPEAKER_03

I know all the viewers right now are saying in their head, like, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01

Bro, I'm acting look at this crunchy like that.

SPEAKER_03

The only fast thing he's doing is fasting food in his mouth.

SPEAKER_01

First of all, bitch, that makes no sense at all. I'm but go off this. No. No, I'm just being dramatic. You know I like to be dramatic. No, life has been lifing. I've been working. I've been enjoying life.

SPEAKER_03

No sugar daddies, huh?

SPEAKER_01

I really need one.

SPEAKER_03

Life would be my Why can't there be sugar daddies that don't require sugar?

SPEAKER_01

I don't mind giving the sugar. I don't care. But we knew this though. Like, come on. It's like, oh, but I do want to say though, okay, cool. You know, I know this podcast is all over the place right now. I do have somebody who came back to my life that I used to talk to a lot, like in the last few years, and he's back.

SPEAKER_03

I forgot you texted me and you were bringing it up.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you read my messages? Because you never reply to my messages. All you do is like, and that's it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, I need a I wanted to wait until the podcast will talk about it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh now you wanna wait. Oh now you now you wanna wait. Oh now you care about my name.

SPEAKER_03

We owe it to them to tell them the tea.

SPEAKER_01

I told him I'm not gonna say his real name. I'm gonna protect your identity, you know. So his name is Richard.

SPEAKER_04

That's gonna be his real name.

SPEAKER_01

So Richard, Richard and I. Hi Richard. We you know what? It was crazy. Me and him, we used to like we known each other since 2007. Oh my god. 2007, because back in that day, that era, like I was like online dating some somebody. And then he Yeah. But I've never I've never seen him. Actually, I haven't seen Richard in person, like, until like maybe 10 years later in person. But back in that day, like I was like, you know, you know how you're young and you're dating people like from around the world. Never seen them. Oh my god. I was dating somebody that I've never seen, and but then like I guess we broke up, whatever. It's that time. And then Richard started dating him, and that's how that's how I know, yeah, but they went to the same school, you know. So that's how they know each other.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

I know, right? So, and don't worry, guys, we were all of age, we were all the same age. No, yeah, I no, no, no, no, yeah, I know. Oh, the MySpace. I think we did meet a MySpace Loki. Shout out MySpace, my type A. I know that top eight was brutal.

SPEAKER_04

I swear.

SPEAKER_01

If I I was not on your top, then I'm sorry, you can't be friends. But anyways, that's how yeah, so we were all of age. I was a little bit older, I wanna say, because it was 2007, so I had to be like maybe 18, 19, I want to say. And they were like in and they were like in a senior year. So maybe I was a little older. Maybe they were like 17, 18. So still, but still. I want to say, I want to say that because I don't think, yeah, whatever. That was back then, you know, we were it was, you know, no no one cared about that.

SPEAKER_03

Do you have a police iron so you can press it?

SPEAKER_01

Hold on. I don't I don't think I do, but I do have a yeah. But, anyways, and um, you know, so okay, me and Richard, like, we finally met each other like 10 years later, but then he was actually the the boyfriend or the ex of one of the guys I was really good friends with, which recently we started talking again as well. Let's call him Oreo. Not because I have Oreo cookies right looking at me, but let's just call him Oreo. You know, because it's so good and fluffy. But so yeah, so me and Richard, we started talking again, and and me and Oreo, we're we're you know, we we um we all hooked up with each other, anyways, by the way. I fucking knew it. Not at the same time, but you know, you know what?

SPEAKER_02

Honestly. So like dirty short, like I sit with kind of, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Because you know, in the gay world, because okay, Sam, you don't know this. Oh, by the way, guys, I want to say this about uh Sam over here. Once upon a time, I asked everyone if they wanted to go to voice town with me. Everyone said yes, but this one bitch here. Sam was like, no, ill. She said ill. That was extremely sure. That was extremely homophobic.

SPEAKER_03

I went to voice title, no return.

SPEAKER_01

Not with me, bitch. But when I asked you, you were like, ill, no.

SPEAKER_03

I went to voice title with Adriana with Adriana. This other girl that I we used to work with.

SPEAKER_01

Girls, you went with girls, you never went with me. After I invite I went with to voice title with fucking Lynette and Adriana. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02

You guys are best buddies. We used to be best buddies, but not. I wish you would uh me one.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, yeah, uh guys, Sam is homophobic, which you know my work schedules always flash. Uh, here we fucking you're do you're doing the same shit. And when I'm trying to record with this bitch, she's like, oh, the work schedules. And then finally, when we have a time to record, she doesn't even tell me anything until I had to text her. She's like, well, it's certainly because now you want to get into recording.

SPEAKER_03

First of all, please.

SPEAKER_01

Bring it out. Come on, bitch.

SPEAKER_03

Next time, oh, I'll let you know when I get home so we can record. Are you talking about like you're really bringing the story?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_03

I texted, never called. It's not like you were gonna record the next time his story, and he's watching scream for like the 10th time.

SPEAKER_01

It's not like you were gonna record at home. You're always talking about like, oh my god, I'm with my babies. I'm over here, I'm gonna be a mother.

SPEAKER_02

It's okay to be a mom.

SPEAKER_01

Whatever. Is it though?

SPEAKER_02

Is it?

SPEAKER_03

You're like going, oh, that's right. You don't have kids or nobody.

SPEAKER_01

Well, motherfucker, if I would have had kids, okay, but I didn't want to have kids, okay? There's someone in the dumpster. Wait, hold on. No, that's kind of mean. No.

SPEAKER_04

Well, edit that out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm gonna edit that out. No, if I wanted kids, I would have had kids. If I was a girl, I would have had kids.

SPEAKER_03

It is your horror story. That's what we all love.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, anyways. Uh but yeah, Sam's homophobic. So, anyways, back to my story. Yeah, we're all talking again. And Oreo actually lives like not that far from me, like maybe like five minutes away. Um and then Richard, he talks to me here and there and all that stuff, and that's all about the podcast. And he was just like, Oh, I'm gonna subscribe, I'm gonna listen. I'm like, all right, cool. So, Richard, if you're hearing this, this one's for you. This is for you.

SPEAKER_02

Have you ever loved somebody?

SPEAKER_04

That's funny.

SPEAKER_01

No, you know, hey, how are you? I know, you know, you and I have been up and down, you know, not as being today's topic.

SPEAKER_03

I said, shout out for being today's topic.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes, yes, yes. You are the main topic right now.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but finished.

SPEAKER_01

All right, cool. I'm just saying, like we just reconnected, and then, you know, maybe maybe we'll hang out this summer. Let's see what happens. Maybe there'll be some tongue involved, maybe some anal boy, maybe some ass. Maybe some like eating ass in a you know, in a rooftop during party, you know. It just, you know, the sky's a limit. There's no limit. The sky's a limit. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know how he loves country balls.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But the thing is though, like, they saw me, okay, oh shit. They saw me years ago, Sam. Years ago. Now they're gonna look at him and be like, what the fuck? Now, okay, now I I I bash myself a lot, you know. I talk shit, you know, this and that. I, you know, but the thing is though, like, like half of these guys met me when I was in my prime, when I was just like, when I wasn't eating, I was being anorexic, I was like, you know, I'd rather, you know, look good than eat, you know? Which Loki I always think like that again. But you know, I wasn't healthy. It was not a healthy weight. So, you know, during the years I gained weight, you know, maybe a little too much, you know, some might say. But you know what? You know, now I'm you know I'm try you know, I'm trying to lose it again, you know. I'm trying, you know, but it's trying to lose weight while still living my life and having fun. And it's okay. It not yeah, it's it's okay to to start over, but it's really hard. And now that you know I'm in my age, you know, I am I am I uh it it's it's hard with age, but I'm trying, you know, and okay, fuck. I have not tried, but listen, I'm gonna I will start trying.

SPEAKER_03

It's you know, it's there, but it's just to get into it. It's just so much to do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then it's like cutting out cards, yeah, counting cards, working out.

SPEAKER_01

See, and and the thing with me, like, I like to have a little drink here and there, you know. And I like to like just chill. The thing is though too, like, I lived my life already, you know. I I went out, I did my thing, I did my rounds around town. I traveled. Yeah, I still want to travel. I still travel, you know. But I lived like the party life, I already done that. So that doesn't intrigue me. My party life now is just me like chilling and listening to music in my garage.

SPEAKER_03

I think that's how we all everyone gets because that's remember the way I was, I was always outside wanting to do stuff, going out, going to the bars to go dancing. And it's like after so long, it's like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I know, so and I got I'm done all that. Yeah, I know. And and then like I had like a few coworkers of mine actually tell me, and then you know, because mostly all my coworkers, they're like young. They're like from they're from 19 to like 25, 24, right? The ones that I talk to, they're always like, you know, oh my god, you're man, you're that old, man. What are you doing? Start a family. What the what do you mean start a family? I'm like, y'all need to stop doing this and say this. It's the same shit as telling a girl who just got married to have kids. Maybe the girl don't want to have kids. Maybe she wants to live her life. Maybe, you know, she wants to travel with the husband and all that stuff. Y'all need to stop putting the, you know, saying this shit to people. Like me, I'm I don't want to have kids. I don't want to have, I don't want to start a family. Okay. For me, family, like look at my family right now. Shit. That's the that's my stress right now. And you know, to me, you know, for me, you know, saying it.

SPEAKER_03

I think too what people don't understand is that like you're obviously your sisters have had kids and you used to like watch them all the time. So it's like you did play that role already in a way.

SPEAKER_01

And let me tell you, and the best part was like, here, here you go. I'm gonna return them back.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_01

That was the best part. Yeah. So I'm like, you know what, I live my life. I already had my kids, and I don't want to do that again. Like, I don't. But no, but yeah, but the guys always tell me, like, you know, like there's this one guy. Uh I'm gonna say his name, whatever. But he was just like, man, you're like, you're that old, and yeah, start a family, like stop, stop going out, stop doing this. I'm like, first of all, you know, I can do whatever the fuck I want. Number one. I don't have many responsibilities. I have a house. That's the only responsibility I have. I have a job. What else do you want me to do? Like, what else? Like right now, I'm relaxing. Let me relax. Let me have my moment. Let me just chill. Stop rushing. If anything, you're fucking 22. You live your life because you're the one going out every fucking week and getting fucking drunk on fucking like three-day benders. You know?

SPEAKER_03

Why don't you tell him to have a kid?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's just like, you know, like, and and mostly I know they all come from families where the where the mom and dad, you know, are like pressuring them to like, you know, oh, to find a girl, find a guy, whatever, and you know, have kids and move out and all that bullshit, you know? How about you do that? How about you do that? But you don't want to do that because you want to be out there having your three-day, you know, weekend vendor, which is funny.

SPEAKER_03

Some people just don't want to have kids.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Some people don't want to get married.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. So I don't want to get married. That's one thing. I don't want to get married. I don't want to have kids. And you know, honestly, like if I live my life by myself, I will be okay with that. I'll be okay. Damn, that's like a sad picture I just painted right there. I'm okay to be alone. Okay, bitch, relax. You had like three whatever. You have three kids, so of course. No, like no, but the thing is that like you I feel like everyone needs to be okay to you know to be alone. You know, everyone wants a boyfriend. Yeah, everyone wants a girlfriend, everyone wants to be in a relationship.

SPEAKER_03

You need to find like if you're not necessarily everyone. Yes, some people when they're in a relationship for so long or maybe they're just not having the right luck with the per like other people, they're okay with being alone. And it's nothing's wrong with that at all.

SPEAKER_01

But I will say this though if I was dating somebody, I'm dating if I was looking to get married, okay. I'm not wasting my time just on any motherfucker. I'm dating to marry, I'm not dating just to have fun.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

You know, and what people are doing right now, especially the younger generation, they're just like they want to be in a relationship so bad. They want to fall in love, they want to be in love, they want to do all this stuff, but I say you're wasting your time dating or being in a relationship. I say date around. Date, you know.

SPEAKER_03

See what you like.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Date around. Don't waste your time on just one person. You know, there's a lot of fish in the sea, and all the little fishies have different sizes. Not so, you know, not you know, nice.

SPEAKER_03

And they all have different scales.

SPEAKER_01

Different scales. There we go. You know, and they have different things, you know, they can give you different things. You know, date around, see what you like, you know, get out there. Don't just like want to date somebody or just stay like like talk to somebody for like five months and nothing happening. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

If I was like it's like the same thing with getting married. If you're dating someone or you're with someone for more than like a certain amount of years and he still doesn't know or she still doesn't know if she wants to be married or not. Leave him.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

Cause you know what? Everyone knows within a short amount of time if they really want to be married or not.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It doesn't take them long to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this. I didn't see myself getting married with somebody.

SPEAKER_03

Hold on guys, because art's never told me this before.

unknown

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

And I wanna say Was it with this kid that broke your heart?

SPEAKER_01

Which one? No, no, Angel? The one that you like Yeah. No. This was years, years ago. This is actually before I met you.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, this is one guy.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? I wanna say I'm gonna say his name just for the fuck of it. But this is not exposing him or anything like that. But according to him, me saying his name will expose him because this shit came with a lot of fucking um name.

SPEAKER_03

Say it.

SPEAKER_01

It came with a lot of it it came with a lot of insecurities. I came in with like with a lot of like suicide thoughts.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, what's his name?

SPEAKER_01

I'm just gonna say Anthony. I'm gonna call him Anthony. That's it.

SPEAKER_04

So my god.

SPEAKER_01

That's his middle name, anyways. So Anthony's proceeding. So I met him back in 2011. I met him on a on a screen for message board.

SPEAKER_04

A what?

SPEAKER_01

On a screen for message board when the movie came out.

SPEAKER_04

That was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_01

I know. But come on, I met I met him on on like on on uh one of those little message boards, you know, watching Scream on four. So, you know, we started talking and it was kind of like a like an instant thing, you know, talking to him because we were just talking about movies and we like and then we got each other's numbers and we were like talking about movies all night. Like movies and And you know, life and stuff like that. And, you know, it got a little hot and heavy for a while because we were even talking about marriage and shit like that.

SPEAKER_03

That fast?

SPEAKER_01

Well, in the the little like, it was like a summer romance, I want to say. A summer romance. But, you know, he had more demons than I thought. Like he number one, he wasn't out. And I wasn't out either, but I was out to the internet, you know, because I didn't have family on my on my social medias, like on my Facebooks or or on Twitter or anything like that. So I was out there just like sucking dick and cock, you know? But and he was like, he he came from like a military family. His dad was strict. He lived with his grandmother. Man, he was very depressed and all that stuff. And I never understood that until like maybe later on in life. Because I, you know, every time I was like online, I used to be like, oh, I miss talking to you. And I used to say his name. So he used to get so pissed off that I used to say his name. But I'm like, bro, no one knows me, so it's fine. He's like, no, but we're following each other, they're gonna like connect the dots. He was very paranoid. He was very Yeah, so he was so paranoid that, you know, I couldn't even say his name. And then like he used to tell me that, you know, he's gonna kill himself if I keep calling him or he's gonna kill himself. Yeah, yeah. He was he it was like that, like, because he was so paranoid of people finding out that he was gay. Or according to him, he's not, you know. But and then years later, so that happened, but years later, we actually were connected back in 2022 when the last screen movie came out, the first, you know, the requel. He finally got Twitter and then we started talking, and he showed me his scars of what he did to himself, you know, when I was talking to him. And I remember I was in Vegas my birthday weekend, and I I cut it off with him because I'm like, I can't do this. But that whole weekend I cut it off with like mostly all my friends. Like all my friends I've been knowing like for that that I met during, you know, in the internet like 10 plus years or whatever. But I cut it off with this guy, Anthony, because I couldn't do it. I'm like, uh, it's just gonna be too weird, it's gonna be too rough, I can't. But then yeah, he said that he would never forgive me for him doing that to himself.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, then that's his own problem.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And that, you know, I caused him a lot of pain, that he wasn't ready to come out, and you know, he was just really not so happy with me. But yeah, but yeah, he said he let me go too. He goes, like, I need to stop using him as a scapegoat, and I I need to go write my I need to go direct my own movie. You know, since he likes using movie metaphors a lot. So I let him go, he let me go, and we have not talked to each other for the last four years. I think that's for the best. No, it's for the best, yeah it is. But there was like there was there's some some, you know, there's some there's times where I'd be like in my garage, just like listening to music, and he'd just like pop up, you know, and it just like, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, and you think about him?

SPEAKER_01

I do think about him, you know, not now and then, but but but it's just like I know that I'm never going to talk to him again, and then I I need to see him as somebody who has some has died already. You know? Oh yeah. I I need to see him as like, you know, like, oh, he passed away like a long time ago. I think in or in order for me to like get over him and his in the situation, because I'm I'm over it. It just like I I really wish that you know he would have like been accepting of himself because he was a good guy. But the thing is though, he had a lot of demons, and I didn't know what to do with that, you know. I don't know now, like I know he still lives, you know, where he like the same time, you know, he grew up and all that. But you know, sometimes I I feel like you know, I hope, you know, he's I do see like because we had mutual friends on Twitter, and I think and I do see some of his stuff getting retweeted, and I do see that he'd be going to the movies as well, and that you know, the same time I'm going. So I do see, you know, I do see a lot of him sometimes on social media. But, you know, just like I think like a month ago, I was just like, yeah, I gotta block him because I don't wanna I I really don't wanna see, you know. I mean, yeah, I wanna see how you're doing. I just I you know deep down I still kinda care. But I know that I used to think of you as somebody who has died. Because I feel like he's done the same thing with me. So let me, you know, let me return that favor too. Like, okay, you killed me, and I you know, so I gotta kill you now.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

I know. But yeah, that's that's what it is. That's why I don't want to date because of shit like that.

SPEAKER_03

I just wouldn't want to date all over again because I don't feel like getting to know the person.

SPEAKER_01

What's your favorite colors? What's your favorite food?

SPEAKER_03

Not even that, it's just like common sense shit. Like, you know how like everyone everyone knows when it's like the first couple months, it's like a honeymoon stage because it's fresh, it's new. But then you start getting to deep shit, like arguments about life, and now that we're older, there's like more stuff to argue about, like important stuff. And then it's just having to meet their family, and then what if their brothers and sisters are fucking weirdos or their parents and cousins are like full of negativity and it's just like you gotta start all over like no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

Sam, are you going through that right now?

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm using that as an example. I've been with my man for like damn near nine years, baby. We are good.

SPEAKER_01

Why have you never met him? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

How come I never met Alex? Wasn't there a guy after Alex? But you I don't think you took him serious.

SPEAKER_01

I never took another one serious, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03

You did with Pum Angel.

SPEAKER_01

You met Angel.

SPEAKER_03

I know I did. And I told you I didn't really like them.

SPEAKER_01

Why? 'Cause of Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_04

The fact you remember Guys, Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_01

My first boyfriend looked exactly like Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_03

He did. It was annoying.

SPEAKER_01

No one liked him.

SPEAKER_03

Cause we could I could I could tell.

SPEAKER_01

But no, but I was just like, no, he's a great guy. He would never hurt me. And what happened?

SPEAKER_03

And like he hurt you the worst.

SPEAKER_01

But whatever. I'm ready to have a kid now.

SPEAKER_03

Let's get married. Go get married.

SPEAKER_01

Hey guys, thanks so much for joining us on a brand new episode of Problematic. You know, on this podcast, we like to keep things real, uh funny, and sometimes a little messy. But sometimes things are bigger than us. If you or someone you love is struggling or thinking about harming themselves, please, please reach out for help. You don't have to go through it alone. You don't have to be alone. Contact a National Suicide Prevention Hotline or even a trusted person in your life. There's always someone ready to listen. There's always someone there. Save to Help Illinois at 844-472-3345. Once again, Save to Help Illinois at 844-472-3345. They're always willing to help. Always ready to listen. Thank you.

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This is some public service announcement.

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If you are hearing this, then you're probably probably a problem. This podcast is problematic. Let's go.

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