Christians Who Founded First Certified Regenerative Farm in U.S. (w/ Blake and Stephanie Alexandre)

On this episode, Darren sits down with Blake and Stephanie Alexandre (founders of the first certified regenerative farm in the U.S.) to discuss their entrepreneurial journey and Christian business leaders’ God-given responsibility to care for the environment.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

That's more. Welcome to the Christian Business Leader Podcast, where Christ-following business leaders explore God's will and ways for business. This show is a ministry of the Center for Christianity and Business at Houston Christian University and features conversations with today's Christ-centered business leaders who are representing Christ faithfully in the business world. I'm your host, Darren Scheer, and if you want to make your work, leadership, and company's culture more Christ-centered, you've come to the right place. On this episode, we're joined by Blake and Stephanie Alexander. Blake always knew he would be a dairy farmer. Stephanie prayed she would marry one. Blake studied dairy science at Cal Poly, where he met Stephanie, who studied agricultural business. The couple fourth-generation dairy farmers founded Alexander Family Farm in Northern California, the first certified regenerative farm in the United States. Together with their children, a great team, they implemented adaptive rotational grazing, composting, and holistic organic land management on 9,000 acres. We got to thank the cows too, right? They had they probably had were involved in that, right? In fact, their herd of 5,000 organic cows produces A2A2. Am I saying that right?

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

A2A2 organic dairy products sold in natural food stores across the United States. Some of you know what I'm talking about. Uh, probably most of you don't, but you're gonna learn. Rooted in faith, the Alexanders feel called to live out biblical principles through stewardship of the land, animals, and people. Blake and Stephanie, welcome to the Christian Business Leader Podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Thank you. Thanks for having us.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

When did you first realize God wants to be involved in your work and business?

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yeah, great, great question. Um I I, you know, we we've been married and together for 40 years. We we've um been in business since 1988. Um and I I would say that it was in the early 90s when we literally bought this ranch and moved north here into Northern California to uh to start our own farm really separate and away from our parents on both sides. And as we ventured into this endeavor, um, you know, we we started seeking out organic and unique ways to really identify our farm uh differently from others. And I I think that's when God really had an influence on the direction that we ultimately take.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Yeah, when we bought this farm uh in 92, it was we realized as we were trying to buy it, it was the poorest county in California. And our parents were questioning our decision to go this direction, but we really answered and we just felt called to be here. It's just beautiful here. And no other dairymen really wanted this farm, so we were able to negotiate a good deal. And we just felt that in our heart that we had a purpose here, and it didn't take long for um me to come across one of my favorite verses now today. My life verse is Romans 8, 28. Um, that we know in all things work together for those who love him and are called according to his purpose. And he just gave us this passion for dairy, gave me a passion from the early age that I wanted to marry a dairyman that was so important to me because I love cows and and they were like the check boxes of a man I would date kind of thing, or and Blake um was one of them, and and he was the same way, just loved dairies. His license plate said love cows in college, so it was cute.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Yeah. So before you bought the farm, did you did you just always have this sense that God wanted to be involved in your work? Or did you was there a point prior to that where you thought, well, maybe to really be a solid Christian, I need to go to seminary, start a church, or do something more of a conventional type of a ministry?

SPEAKER_00 4:28

I think both of us always knew God loved us, Jesus loved us. We both grew up in faith. So we had that. And I think going through trials, you really realize how much you need him when you get to get on your knees. And that to me was realizing the um the need for him. But the passion, I think you start figuring out that when you are passionate about something, it's really your calling. And your calling is given to you by God.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

Yeah, I I I would just add that I'd say in you know, kind of the mid-90s, as we started um you know, stretching our ability and and of course um growing our farm and and owing money and um you know employing people and more and more people and being responsible for more animals and more land to steward, um, you know, we then had to lean on God more and and you know, and pray that and and listen and and hope that we were doing the right thing and look for direction. And and so as times got difficult, um, you know, I I would say that's when we were really dug into uh the concept uh in the Bible that fruit grows in the valleys. So it's the valleys of life. It's not while you're you know up on top, you know, pounding on your chest saying, gee, we're good. It's when you're really uh struggling and and you got to lean on God hard. Um, I think that's where we get most of our direction.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Yeah. And that dependence on God is fairly common among farmers, right? We were talking about this a little bit earlier and how the the regenerative farming uh that that industry, it it just sort of I guess as a as an outsider, it kind of makes me think of sort of the granola uh folks that in in a lot of cases are I would say more left-leaning, uh, not to not to get political, but um is this what you find that among farmers generally, I mean it's hard not. I mean, I I saw a a live uh a birth of a of a lamb on a farm one time. And I mean to see that it's hard to not just marvel at at God's uh power, at God's creative and the way that He just holds all things together, and you don't really miss that when you've got 5,000 cows and on 9,000 acres and just seeing just the wonders of God uh every day.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

That's very true. When we went organic, um the process started in 1999, and and we were like, oh, how do we do this organically? How do we become organic? What do we do here for treatment or whatever? And we went to a conference where the the keynote speakers at this conference in the Midwest for agriculture for um farmers really was uh doctors making a difference in people's lives by teaching them to go to the farm instead of the pharmacy. And really that's when we're like, wow, we have a purpose. This is this is purposeful as farmers to make a difference in the food system. And at the same time, um animal agriculture was being demonized, and yet I'm going to classes on nutrition where nutrient-dense foods and nutrient-dense foods are so important to the health of pregnancy babies and their growth, and all these processed foods that are out there and all the center shelves versus the perimeter of the grocery store where the nutrient density is, the milk, meat, and eggs, that's where nutrient density is. And when that processed food is eaten, it's displacing the opportunity to give nutrients to children, to babies, to adults, to any of us. And it's such a purpose to be a farmer in animal agriculture and where the nutrients lie. And the animal agriculture has been demonized. So again, it comes back to what the Lord called us to do, and that is make a difference in the food system for nutrient density, healthier foods. And we learned that in 2003 when we went to that conference. And Blake, who's a cowman, he was high individual at Madison for college, collegiate dairy cattle judging, he knows cattle and he knows genetics. And he became passionate about the soil and the pasture grasses and the variety of pasture grasses and what are the deep taproots to plant in our pastures and the rotational grazing. And it was just a beautiful thing to see him develop this passion again, because God called him to do that, go that direction. And for me, it was the nutrition. I was in charge of baby calves and and we had five little kids, and it was a struggle, but you just stayed on in that valley. And and through those times, we would look at each other. And somebody told us once, and I love this, that these are your good old days. Our kids were little, we were struggling in business, and these were the good old days, and God was through there with us through it all.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yeah. What's a time when you saw God's hand at work in business?

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Yeah, I I I think as we learned um first organic principles and management of land stewardship and began to understand the kind of the micro deep differences between conventional farming that the United States is really good at, and of course, what we were taught at college. And then we come into this organic world, which is ultimately a regenerative world, and the understanding, a deep understanding of the soil and how it's really alive and what it makes and what it what it's worth, and what how it works really. And so that's when we learn that you know, we got to farm in harmony with nature and and understanding what God's intention was for soil and for farmers as stewards of that soil. And then in return, the products and the the toil of the soil becomes, like Stephanie says, nutrient dense or or or more beneficial for all life, plant life, animals, and then ultimately people. And and so I believe that once we understood that you know, part of God's perfect plan for sequestering carbon and and and pulling nutrients and nutrition out of the dirt, the sand, silt, and clay of our fields, um, you know, through that those interactions, um is is really when we fully understood that you know this perfect plan is it's our responsibility to first learn about it, understand it, and then implement it.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

The first I would say a good example for me when um I really saw God's hand at work in our lives. Um, I mean, we saw it throughout, we knew it throughout. And and it's always a trust, a walk of trust. But we had a huge fire on um September 6, 2001. So five days before World Trade Center. And when I say huge, it was a 52,000 square foot building. It was about an acre big. It was all of our commodities, our equipment, our shop generator, well in this building. And it looked like um just a big explosion cloud when it started. It just was instant gone. And a couple weeks or a few weeks after we had minimal insurance on it. You always think you're gonna lose a corner of a building, not the whole building and all the assets inside. And maybe a month or two later, I um on a Wednesday, I was just fretting because there was no way we were gonna make payroll on Friday. Just no, absolute no way. And I was stressed, I was kind of crying, I just prayed out to God. And um Thursday I got an email from our insurance company, and they found a way to tie the milk barn insurance to that building, and we were able to make payroll and then some. So it was one of those God answered me when I needed it and told me you're gonna be okay. Um, and we made it through that. And of course, when World Trade Center happened, we were already numb. My parents were in town helping us with the kids and figuring out things, but he he was faithful.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

What a miracle! He's so kind, and I've never heard somebody answer that question, you know, what's a time when you saw God's hand at work in business and say, you know, it was just because everything was just going so well. Yeah, it is always, you know, the there was a stock market crash, and you know, we were going out of business, had a you know, uh our our property blew up. I mean, it this is just yeah, it's amazing how those are the those are the moments that we've if we will allow him, he will reveal himself to us in the most powerful ways. Um thank you for sharing that story. Wow. Um and so everybody was okay, everybody walked away.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Yeah, no one in no animals were hurt.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Wow. And so how many team members do you all have?

SPEAKER_00 14:10

We have about 180 when we're fully engaged. Um, we have about 30 H2A visa employees that are going home real soon, which is a joy to have them through the summer.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

So those are temporary work visas from other countries, uh, mostly Mexico, and you know, 30 of those guys come up for about an eight-month period. And so they're heading home literally this at the end of the week, and uh, and then we'll have 150 full-time all all winter.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Yeah. So do you actually uh Blake, Stephanie, do y'all actually cowboy, cowgirl up and get out there, you know, like people on Yellowstone? And or do you are y'all driving?

SPEAKER_02 14:53

But it's slightly different.

unknown 14:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Well, you know, um yeah just yesterday I was out. We I I I carry a clipboard with a group of cows, and I needed to check off about uh 30 or 40 of them to, you know, just to get my eyes on them and see make a plan with them. You know, is it time to to keep them or sell them? And uh sometimes it's time to go. And um, you know, I I really enjoyed you know doing that and getting out of the office and you know, away from Zoom calls and conference calls, and those seem to dominate our day. Um, but you know, right now we've you know, our our kids are are managing the farm in in in different aspects of it. And of course, the people that are involved in that, and then we have a lot of other managers as well that are taking care of our business uh kind of from top to bottom. And it still feels good to to get out and and help where we can and where I can. I was I I was on a bulldozer here for quite a few hours uh this past week and and uh on a tractor for a few hours. And so it's it's fun to get out and still be a farmer.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Yeah. Go ahead, Seb.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

I like to take walks later in the afternoon around the farm. I I have an eye for noticing things that where we can just make things better or ideas and stuff. So I make my list and give it to our daughter who is our dairy manager, or talk to the kids about it, nag Blake about it, things like that. I growing up on a dairy myself, and and I always, like I said, I prayed and married dairy farmer, but I also knew that I was capable of being a dairy farmer if I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

And that was kind of my attitude. But I married somebody that I could respect and love, and we have a great life together.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah. One of the things that I believe and talk a lot about on this podcast is that the primary purpose of business is not just to make a profit or to make uh make meaning, uh, but to make disciples. Uh, that's that's the great commission. Um, is is that what does that look like in your business, disciple making?

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Yeah, I I I would say in general, it it starts with feeding people. I just think of a generic family with a couple of kids across the country eating and consuming healthy meat, milk, and eggs, um, dairy products. And so we are now responsible for some of those products across the country, and and and that's a um a really wonderful feeling um and and responsibility as well. And and so it starts there. I think making disciples uh out of everybody we come in contact with, I would say it's first by example, letting them see our faith. And um we try to always mention God and Jesus and and you know, every time we've got the microphone, um, where no matter where it is in the appropriate setting, we pray with our employees, we we pray with our friends, we certainly pray at dinner and and every meal we can.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

And which includes um major retail buyers that come to our farm. Um, we are we've never never been ashamed to pray at our table.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Yeah, we we hand out little pocket crosses to everyone. Oh, there it is.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

I love that.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Yeah. Yeah, we always carry them, um, give them out whenever we have an opportunity, and we we always keep a few hundred of them nearby. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

When we're at a food show, we have a little um milk jar with them on the table, and people walk by and notice it and grab one, and and we're able to share our Christian faith. And sometimes they're like, gosh, I was having such a bad day, and you just made my day by giving me that pocket cross. And I said, Well, can we pray right now? And they're astoundish that they're at a food organic food show and they're praying with somebody. Yeah, so other brands know that about us now. So we find friends in the industry that are also Christians.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

And we just support each other. We we smile when we see each other and and know that why we're here and who we do it for.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Yes. Yeah. I I I was at our we're part of a group called C12, stands for in the 12 apostles. At a meeting um last week, Thursday, Stephanie couldn't make it, but I had missed a few meetings, and so the group was really anxious to get an update of you know what what's Alexander Family Farm up to and and um you know how's the brand doing, those kinds of things. And um, we meet with a group in in um southern Oregon. So they're not often here at our farm, but they uh they feel very connected to us. And so as we we talked, and I was explaining to them, you know, the highs and lows and the downs and and and um I just reminded them that you know when I joined or when we joined C12 five years ago or so, it it was like this wonderful weight off our shoulders that they gave us permission to put God into our employee handbook and God into our, you know, just into our business and and um you know, don't be ashamed. And we we already had Bible verses on our bottles and they were kind of subtle, and we're trying to now make that more more evident. But you know, it's just like you've got this political correct society working on you every day against you, and uh it just felt so good to tell them that you know it's been a year or two since we decided we only want to hire Christians as we move forward in in business. And that's not only, it's not I I also don't believe I can judge everybody. And so we we we hire um and fire based on character, not necessarily Christianity. And um, but I I just really think that God's rewarding us and rewarding our brand for that commitment. And and uh it became obvious that day by the questions that I was getting and answering. And you know, it's just it's it's it was certainly one of those moments when I think that God was voting in our favor.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

You look like you're getting ready to jump jump in there, Stephanie.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

I I love joining C12. It it certainly takes you to a new realm in business on um the level of peace I received and trusting the Lord more. Um, I pay the bills, I oversee finance, anything, finance and legal stuff. And and so I get stressed. And I I've done a tremendous amount of Bible studies and and sometimes on my own, sometimes in a group. And they're always I'm always looking for something that can just walk me through this walk of um being in business and a growth. And uh debt we're carrying and things like that. And so it's really helped me. It's given me C12 has given me that peace that's helped me developed my relationship with the Lord. I've always had it, but it just as you learn more about his words, the story in Kings and First Kings and all these prophets before Jesus and their walks and in the Old Testament was really fun. I think I always concentrate on the new most of my earlier lives. And then to learn that history has just been a great walk for me.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

Yes. How would you define the culture of the Alexander Family Farm?

SPEAKER_00 22:44

We're always working on it. Yeah, I was just saying.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Well, we would write a 31-page book.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Awesome.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Yeah, and it's our our our farm family core principles. And um, it doesn't mean that everybody's read it and everybody's uh you know a firm believer, but it's it's the type of thing that, well, Stephanie and I have been working on it for a long while, quite a few years, and we really just kind of got it published this year. And it's not really a book, it's just a little, it's a little pamphlet, really, with 31 principles, uh, you know, how character counts, and then we define character and and um, you know, just little things. And so the culture here, I would say, is hardworking, honest with integrity. And and and um, you know, people that don't share one of those values don't last long here, and they weed themselves out because they're uncomfortable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Yeah, and this um third 30 um basically tenets of what we want to um have as our core principles. The number one was have faith, faith in yourself, faith in your in your God-given talents, faith to trust in God's plan and timing. So that's the first one. And there's others too about safety, about um humane treatment of animal, about doing the right thing at every turn. And so it's something we hang up where the employees conjugate and have it in English and Spanish. And then we also have a little pocket one that they receive when they're hired. And we haven't 100% implemented yet. We just got them printed a few months ago and um we're changed, we've made some changes with our HR to where we want to really have a succinct uh launch of the whole thing, but we've given it to managers, and our plan is that every pay period we change a subject, and at the safety meetings or whatever meetings are had, we would talk about that um item and just a way of reminding each other of what we stand for, who we are and what we stand for. And so that's our goal to just constantly improve culture and um be a team player and things like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Yeah. And I would I would say that, and to encourage our listeners that you know, if if somebody was to ask you, how do you make disciples of Jesus and carry out the Great Commission through your company, um, that it's not just from an evangelistic standpoint of well, you know, I try to try to steer conversations toward um, you know, about God, about inviting people to church and you know, doing the what would we would think of as evangelistic tactics and method, right? But but disciple making is far broader than that, and it and it is to whatever extent people are conforming to the culture of your organization, which is Christ-centered, uh, they are being conformed to Christ, um, is is my is my view. Um and they might not have even prayed a prayer to accept Christ at that point because Jesus was discipling his disciples uh before they had ever you know prayed a prayer of of salvation. Um, and so it's it's getting uh it's getting immersed into a culture, into an atmosphere that is Christ-centered, that ultimately the Holy Spirit uses to lead people to Christ. And so, I mean, if if they are if they are more hardworking and and have stronger integrity as a result of working in your company, I would say that's discipleship, right? It's not just that they um even necessarily started going to church or that they prayed a prayer of salvation, uh, but that they are they are demonstrating kingdom values and kingdom uh a kingdom kingdom habits, really is absolutely agree.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

And yeah, it makes me think of um about 32 years ago when we started a drug testing you know policy, and um we we just randomly tested different folks. But I remember one fellow who still works here used it as a reason to quit drinking. And you know, it's like he just needed you know an excuse to tell his wife or his friends or whatever, and you know, gave away alcohol at that point. And um, you know, 32 years ago, that's a long time. And so it it's um clearly, yeah, these these you know integrity and character uh points are an absolute way of discipling folks because yeah, they it leads to you know, well, got more godly living.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Yeah. I mean, this this is discipleship. And outside of the workplace as an adult, where are you gonna get that? You know, it's it's not gonna be hopefully people are going to church and you know, hearing get you know, having corporate worship, hearing a sermon for 45 minutes uh to an hour, depending on where you go to church each week. Um, but I mean the statistics are showing that far fewer people are going to church now than used to, but everybody's going to work. Um, everybody's got to to make money, and that's the opportunity we have as business people to influence them, to cultivate Christ-centered cultures that point people to Jesus, that model the the ways of God, the ways of God's kingdom, um, which are all embodied in in Christ. And and we get to make the culture, and every company has a culture, and it's it's leading people in the pattern of this world, or it's leading people in the the ways of of God, uh, and as as followers of the way, uh, which is not just a way of doing things, but a person, Jesus, the way, the truth, and the life. But I I love the it sounds like that's really happening in in your organization. Is there is there a certain person that comes to mind that you've kind of seen this play out in their life? You mentioned the the guy who um gave up drinking as a result of that that program that was put in place. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Yeah, no, there's actually there's lots of people that come to mind. Um yeah, we've got wonderful employees and we really consider them you know part of the family and and certainly um also as friends. Um and the reason we would call them family is because as we're raising our five kids, we leaned on our employees a lot to you know entertain a five-year-old or an eight-year-old or a 10-year-old while um, you know, they were doing their job, you know, maybe driving a truck, a tractor, or something. And and so we realized that that's when this character counts uh attitude came that you know, we've got to surround ourselves and our kids with good-charactered people. And ultimately, good-charactered people leads to a lot of Christianity and and and church going. And and I would say we did it all more subtly as opposed to this open evangelical, you know, this is how we're gonna do it, um, attitude. And and um, that was just because of who we were at the time and our maturity level. Um, and and as we get older, it's a little more out there and and more open. But I'm also thinking of a guy that came to visit us maybe four or five years ago um from an African country, and he had written a book called uh um Speak to the Earth. I speak to the earth, exactly. And and it was all about the concept about God giving us dominion over the you know, the animals, the birds, the fish, and and um the creepy crawlers of the earth. Uh, but he also gave us dominion over the earth. And and I don't hear that spoken about at church very often or just in conversation, like you have dominion over animals. And so dominion over the earth is what really hit me as a farmer, because the earth is truly where absolutely everything comes from. Uh everything on this planet, everything invented, everything made, it's coming from earth, the rare minerals in the earth or the soil, and then you know, and there's this incredible army of uh biology uh making that available either for for food or for building or for construction. And and uh, you know, it's all right there in front of us.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

And made it all. That's where food comes from. That's where you know God had got it, the way God has set everything up.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Um this this is let me let me just put it this way the the the sun is the energy of our planet, you know. The sun, you know, created by God, you know, the earth is here turning around uh daily and floating around the the sun, where where the energy is coming from from the sun, it's all converted through plants, green living plants through photosynthesis, you know, and then that cycle goes down into the soil and feeds the biology. And it just it's it's it's literally the the the fuel that that runs our our our entire world. Um, and and that's you know a gift from God, of course. I'm just trying to talk about being a responsible steward of that and trying to have a deeper understanding that that's all I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Yeah, and this core process of organic regenerative um dairy farmers, we are certainly learning more about that biology under the ground. And the more good we do to it, the more we grow that organic matter, we are growing healthier, more volume in our pasture grasses, and that is creating more sustainable business for our cattle and for our pocketbook too. And we're doing it with biologics and not chemicals, we're doing it regeneratively to where we're doing all the good to improve that microbiome biology under the ground, and that's alive. And it's like people are starting to understand I want a healthy gut for my body, and then I'm healthier everywhere, and the soil is the gut for the plant. And as we do more good for that gut for the plant, we're gonna have healthier plants and more vivaceous and volume, and that's productivity, and that's been doing it with passion that we got from God to learn more about it.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Yeah, um, so so alexanderfamilyfarm.com is the website, and that's Alexander A L E X A N D R E, not E-R, um, Family Farm.com. Uh, what do you want to say about how people can connect and and um start to adopt some of your products?

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Yeah, I I I would say that you know, we we talked about a lot of things here, and and um when you get it right um on the farm and and through the animals, then it tastes better. And so our products are you know are are gonna speak for themselves and they're gonna speak individually to each person that consumes them. And we believe that we're you know doing our our our part in making the healthiest you know dairy products available that we can possibly do. And and so, you know, that that that I'm just trying to motivate your your folks to understand um that there's more behind the story, and then there's the the story is really what they experience in their house.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Yeah, we are on Instagram and Facebook, and through our website, you can reach out too to contact us. But we love to hear from customers all the time and um excited to meet new customers, possibly.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

And where are our products sold?

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Yes, we do have a store locator on our website where you can find out where we're we are in stores.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

What's what's your most popular product?

SPEAKER_00 35:08

We're excited about our kefir.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

It has um 300 billion or trillion, five trillion uh living colony forming units per serving.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Which is so good for your gut. We're finding people will reach out and say, My doctor recommended I take this every day, and now my gut's so much better. So it's super probiotic.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah, very, very, I guess it brings a lot of energy, and people that consume it feel better immediately. And and then uh, you know, all of our dairy products are more digestible than others, possibly. And um, you know, we we sell at high-end natural food stores, whole foods, sprouts, those type of stores, natural grocers.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Yeah. All right, everybody, get into Whole Foods and uh some of those stores that uh Blake just mentioned, and also to AlexanderFamilyfarm.com. Uh Blake and Stephanie, thank you for the the great work you're doing and reminding us to take better care of this amazing planet God has entrusted to us. Thank you, Darren.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

Thank you, Derek.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

We appreciate what you're doing as well.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Yes, love your podcast.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

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