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6. Women Gone Wild

Flick Hamnett-Day & Verity Curryer Season 1 Episode 6

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Join us for this week's episode, where we take a peek behind the curtain of what life is like for both Flick and Verity right now.

While yes, we did have a topic we intended to talk about, sometimes personal circumstances mean that there are things we need to say and get off our minds when we hit the record button.

We managed to bring the topic into the conversation, but we also took a very open and honest look at what it is like to be a female entrepreneur when your hormones are going haywire.

In this episode, we talk about some personal issues, our husbands (and how wonderfully supportive they are,) as well as talking about the topic of outsourcing when things are getting too much for you as a business owner.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome to Wildly Intentional, the podcast of business owners who refuse to play small.

SPEAKER_01

This is where we'll have bold talks, honest conversations and dig into what it really takes to create big breakthroughs in business and in life.

SPEAKER_00

We're Verity and Flick, we're two business owners who have built, broken, rebuilt and grown businesses in our own ways.

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And we're here to share the lessons, the mindset shifts, and the unapologetic decisions that have really helped us to level up.

SPEAKER_00

So if you're ambitious, you're gross focused, and you're ready to do business on your own terms. You're in exactly the right place. So let's get wildly intentional. Hi! Hi everyone!

SPEAKER_01

We're back. Sorry you can't get rid of us. No, we're not getting rid of us. I'll just say sorry in the first five seconds.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, you did. Literally the first yeah.

SPEAKER_01

First five seconds of our podcast where we say no apologies, and I apologize. Wow. Lack crist. Clearly, I need more coffee today. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think we both do. We were just like having a quick conversation before we press the record button, and it's there's so much we can talk talk about today. And we're so gonna go off topic, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, let's go for it. Because we're we're we're we're in a crazy mood today, folks.

SPEAKER_00

Um we're in a hormonal, exhausted, and just not today kind of mood today. So you know, let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, because the the this is what happens when when you know for those of you who are listening who are who are female or who identify as female and you have all the hormones and everything else that goes along with being a woman, and and this is not sleeping, any man that listens to us, absolutely not, but it's uh it's it's a wild ride being a woman.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, we we might want to put a little bit of a caveat in here because we do have male listeners as well. Um and actually we've just set up the Facebook group and I've invited a couple of owners, but here's the caveat for this one. If you're uncomfortable talking about um female topics, you might want to skip this podcast or at least skip until you know later on because we are gonna talk about something relevant later. But we need to get this out of our system because it's real, it's it's it's you know, it's happening and it's just part of the journey.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this is this is what it's like. This is you know, this is how we we face business, life, battles, everything. So, what's going on with you, Varate? Do you wanna you wanna start and explain what's going on with you? And then I'll explain what's going on with me.

SPEAKER_00

This is gonna highlight the age difference between us. Um, but you know, I am now of a certain age and I'm going through certain things and have been for quite a while. Um and today I'm just in a state of well, my husband is staying away from me because my latest prescription has done a runner. It's gone, gone, it's gone, nobody knows where it is. The doctors say it went, the chemist saying it's not here, and then the doctors are saying, well, they've claimed for it. And I'm like, I don't care. Just give me my HRT so everybody around me stays happy. That's all I want. Just give me the patches. Thank you. So, yeah, so um I might actually have to pause this podcast because I'm waiting for a call back from somebody who is going to tell me my HRT is in the chemist waiting for me, so I can pick it up this afternoon. So I'm kind of, you know, I'm three days without it at the minute, so I can feel the surge kicking in. Um, so I'm a little bit touchy right now, if I'm honest. And I'm trying to get like, I'm trying to smile my way through it. But you know, I'm clearly not succeeding because my husband's done a runner. So, you know, that's where I am today. What about you?

SPEAKER_01

My my husband, I think he's I think he's just vacated the the house as well. He's just like, you know what, I'll leave it to it. Yeah, and so most people, you know, if you followed me on socials, um, most people are aware that I, you know, husband and I are trying for a child. Um, and unfortunately I had a miscarriage last year, which was just oh, that's another story in itself. Um, but yeah, so we were still trying. And last night I had a bit of a screaming match in where he was just breathe wrong, everything was wrong, and like my nervous system was shot, and I was just I couldn't articulate thoughts in like a coherent manner. Like I just everything was screaming. Um, I woke up today, and of course, I've come on, and it's like, okay, I wasn't a crazy person, I'm just that time of the month, and all credit to him. I did send him a message this morning saying uh thank you so much that when I am having those crazy moments that you don't do the stereotypical male thing of going, like, are you on your period?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they've learned though that's dangerous. Don't do that. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_01

His exact response was I'm stupid, not suicidal. Well done, Rob. Bless him. That's just like yeah, so we're we're we're both on a uh hormonal roller coaster today and recording a podcast episode.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and we're talking about it, which is really weird. Not sure it's appropriate, if I'm honest, but hey-ho, we said we go with it. But it is it is relevant actually, because it is relevant to business because as women in business, regardless of age, we go through real hormonal stages in our life, and that that impacts us. And you know, if you add kind of the symptoms that come with the hormones, whether it's you know, perimenopausal, menopausal, or whether it's periods, they mess you up. Something wicked. Your brain frog kicks frog. There you go. See, it's kick this whether we eat frogs for breakfast, or we haven't brain frogs. We're mentioning you know animals, so we'll just go with the fact that I did that deliberately. Um God's sake. I need you swore then.

SPEAKER_01

Try not to I possibly will in this episode. Like we're trying so hard not to swear.

SPEAKER_00

This could really go wrong, I have to say, because neither of our heads are on straight. So this could really go wrong today. So it's either gonna be really entertaining or it's just gonna be like, what on earth was that?

SPEAKER_01

We're not gonna turn into a you know, like an episode of loose women or anything like that. But you know, that's that's where this this episode could could go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um but it does impact us. It does impact, you know. I don't really want to do much today. I haven't got a choice, I've got to do something. You know, I've got a job to do, I have to do it. But I've got to push myself to do it today, even though all I want to do is go and bury my head or bury everybody around me. Um, I'm not sure I should say that on a podcast, actually. Um I don't just, you know, for legal purposes, I do not want to bury everybody around me.

SPEAKER_01

Is this admissible in a court of evidence if I'm if I judge my court of my peers?

SPEAKER_00

Like God's sake. Yeah, so it's it's fun. It's a fun journey.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm I'm exactly the same. Like I got up this morning and I was like, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna do X, Y, and Z, I'm gonna get really focused, really, and I you know, I did the first thing, ticked it off my to-do list, and I went, right, I'm done now. I just want to go and you know eat chocolate and curl up and and feel sorry for myself because you know, as I say, we're we're trying for a kid, and this means it's uh another month where it hasn't happened for us, unfortunately. But you know, I can't do that. Like I've got I've got other things to do. I've got more client meetings, I'm delivering a training course.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that'll be fun. Sorry, folks, can't think of the word I'm looking for. Oh the yeah, I can't even eat the chocolate though, because I'm an actress intolerant, so I don't even have that. Oh life isn't even giving me that today.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I shouldn't be eating the chocolate because my doctor keeps telling me that if I really want to get pregnant, you know, I should lose weight because that's that's that's the advice.

SPEAKER_00

Everything's about weight, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

But you know, it is what it is. We have to we have to respond to the emails um and keep going in business, I suppose. It's it's it's the joy of being a business owner.

SPEAKER_00

It is. But on a happier note, we are celebrating today. Should we talk about that?

SPEAKER_01

We are, yeah. Let's talk about that because most most people know the fact that we're batch recording these and so we're then scheduling them ahead of time. But this is the first one that we've recorded since our podcast went live. Um, and people started listening to it, and we got feedback from so many people, absolutely loved all the feedback. Um, there was some advice in there as like how we could improve. Um, yeah, there's lots and lots of stuff, and we've absolutely loved reading it all, haven't we?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's been amazing. Um, you haven't shared the advice where we can improve, though. Um, however, I suggest you don't do that today.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's it was more on my editing skills. So for those who are listening, um, Verity is is a self-professed technophobe. Absolutely. She she does not do do well with with tech in any stretch of the imagination. So all the tech and editing skills come down to me. I think we did say that in one of our earlier episodes. So um, yeah. So when when you listen to certain episodes, if there's a pause because one of us is up to walk away from the laptop, I'm trying to cut it down so it's not too long. But even so, there's still the but we're not we're not cutting out what we're saying to each other in the episodes. It will just be like if so, for example, today Verity has said that she might have a phone call. Um, and if that's the case, I will do my best to try and carry on the conversation on my own. Um, but if I can't, then there might be a bit of silence, and we might say, you know, try and crop that bit out. So it was more on the editing skills, was the the the bits that we've had.

SPEAKER_00

Cool. So no feedback for me then. We're doing well. Just a review.

SPEAKER_01

We've got feedback that people think we're celebrities now because we've got a podcast.

SPEAKER_00

I know, I know. The messages that have amused me more than anything is the one saying, I feel like I know a celebrity, and it's like, oh my god. It's it's weird though. It's really it's lush, it's really lovely reading the feedback and the fact that people are listening, they're taking things from it, they're really enjoying it. Um, so yeah, so thank you if you have been one of the um people who have listened and downloaded. But we hit a milestone and we're really happy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's that uh we had we reached a hundred downloads this morning. Yay!

SPEAKER_00

You might need to edit this bit out because I don't know if you can hear it. My stomach is making some really random noises right now. So if that comes through, could you please edit that out? I'll talk about many ports, but you know, my my stomach issues. Let's not go there.

SPEAKER_01

My eyes are now watering profusely, and I'm trying to find tissues. Because as most people know, I wear a lot of eyeliner and eye makeup, and so when my eyes water, I end up looking like Alice Cooper. And that's just not the look I'm going for, really.

SPEAKER_00

That is so good, it's such a good look.

SPEAKER_01

It's an iconic look. There is there is that, but like, yeah. Oh, so yes, 100 downloads this morning. That's exciting. I can't.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it is exciting. 100 people actually wanted to listen to us, or at least several people have listened to both episodes. That's like it's fascinating.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I I will share the the other bit of um feedback that again I got from my my my husband. Um, he tried listening to the first episode, bless him, and he just said, you two are just like two excited squirrels that are just not puffies though, so we've been upgraded. It was just like listening to two squirrels chirp at each other. It was like, I love you and Mariton. You get so excited about stuff, but I just couldn't follow the speed in which you talk at.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, really? Rob, get a grip.

SPEAKER_01

Bless him. But even listening, he's he's supporting me, and that's that's what you need.

SPEAKER_00

One up because my husband keeps scrolling past the the posts. And I said to him this morning, we've hit 100 downloads, and he went, Oh, that's really cool. And I was like, if you could just be one of them, that would be great. He's usually really supportive, but you know, he's not he's not, and I don't want to be the one that says, Can you listen to the podcast? I actually want him to take the initiative and do that himself, but I might be waiting a while because he doesn't seem to show any interest in actually listening to this podcast yet.

SPEAKER_01

So by the time this this episode comes out, he will have listened to all of the backlog, and he'll then listen to this and be like, see, I do listen to it, and now I know what you say about me on your podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Do you know what though I read, I think you will. I don't think we're in any danger. In fact, there's a lot I could say about him on this, and he'll never know because he'll never listen. So it's all right. I won't though, because actually my husband is amazing, so you know, let's give him a bit of credit. But he's not amazing when it comes to listening to my podcast.

SPEAKER_01

No, we we do have very supportive husbands, but I think both of our husbands, I don't fully understand what it is that we do or that what why we're passionate about what we do. So it's you know, it's difficult for them to be, you know, excited by it. And I have the same with like Rob. So, you know, my husband's in the RAF and he'll he just loves engineering and he loves talking about like if he's gonna fix an engine, and I just sort of smile and just go, Yeah, I'm happy that he's happy talking about this. I have absolutely I have to keep asking him what certain planes are. I like try and guess what, you know, that we're watching reels or something together, and like his feed will come up with like different planes and things like that. And I'm like, is that a such and such a plane? Like a you know, like a four-year-old child.

SPEAKER_00

It's like Yeah, see, you're already a better person than me, because my brain literally just went, what is she talking about? I couldn't imagine anything more boring. I really wouldn't ask him what plane that is.

SPEAKER_01

That would just be I'm trying to show an interest in what he hasn't been interested in.

SPEAKER_00

See, I have the advantage, I have to say, because Paul is obviously training to be a teacher, so he's in his PGC year and he's going off to be a teacher. Um, and I, in my new role, am teaching um educational trainings, so apprenticeships and you know, high-level stuff, which is amazing. So we get to talk all the time because they kind of can't find the words, Fleck. I can't find the words. Like we use each other's materials, so it's it is interesting, but sometimes he comes home and I'm just like he looks at me and he goes, You've glazed. And I'm like, 'cause you've been boring. You're just not talking about anything I'm interested in now. Just but you know, we're babbling. Should we talk about something relevant?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, I was gonna I was gonna try and loop that back round to what we were actually wanted to talk about today. Go on then, go on then you glazed it. Wouldn't it be great if you could just outsource somebody to your insult in insight into your husband's like business or they could do it?

SPEAKER_00

Hold on, hold on. That one I'm gonna do. Oh, she's getting closed on. It's all right, it's my mother. I can decline that. Sorry, ma'am. Yes, sorry, mum, if you're listening. I'll just message it while we're talking. So you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna try and nicely segue that into you know how we were gonna talk about outsourcing today. If like, wouldn't it be great if like those jobs that you're listening to your husband sometimes when they're talking about a really b boring subject, you could just outsource somebody else to show an interest to that. I was trying, that was a really loose thread.

SPEAKER_00

That's a whole like, you know, I mean, it brings us on to outsourcing, but that is a whole new business idea. Outsourcing your husband to somebody who actually wants to listen.

SPEAKER_01

I thought that was gonna go a very different way there. Outsourcing your husband to hold it back.

SPEAKER_00

No, definitely not that direction. Um I don't uh this really mean, I don't mean I listen to him, he's really interesting, I love him, he's amazing. Um I'm only taking the mic, babe. I am. If you do ever listen to this podcast, I am just taking the mic. But yeah, let's loop it to out outsourcing. I nearly said outcasting then, which is probably more also not outcasting our husbands. No, we're not, we're not. They're useful, keep them around. Um outsourcing, yeah. So we glaze a lot, and actually to days like today, outsourcing is really key.

SPEAKER_01

Oh so much so. So much so. Yeah, if I could just like if I could go back and tell like my my beginner business owner self something, it would be seriously outsource the things you don't want to do. Um because you get told as a business owner when you start your own business, like, oh, you've got all these hats, and you've got you've got to be this person and that person, this bat, that, and the other. And you start off and you do, and you do it all, and you go, oh my god, why am I so burnt out? Why am I so exhausted? Um, and then you discover outsourcing, and oh my god, is that the best thing that I've ever discovered as a business owner? As a person, I don't think you even need to be a business owner.

SPEAKER_00

No, I outsource my cleaning. Yeah, I ain't got time. So I outsource I sorry, I don't care if you you know if that's controversial. I have a cleaner because I don't have the energy or the time, and I outsource the stuff I don't want to do in my personal life as much as my business. Um, I think it's a shame though, with outsourcing, that we don't realise it until we're so far in that we need it because there's this huge fear around it because it costs money and we don't want to spend money when we're first in business. But it goes back to so much that we've said on previous episodes around you will burn out and end up hating your business if you are only doing the stuff that you hate doing. So, outsource, you know, the ones that are really, really key and obvious are things like finances. Go and get yourself an accountant. I'm sorry, they do not cost a lot of money if you're a small business owner. Just do your accounts once a year. You don't need to be stressing on the 30th of January every year because you've got somebody doing it for you. It's not gonna cost you loads of money, get rid of it. Things like email marketing. I don't want to do email marketing. I hate it, it bores the living daylight out of me. Somebody's gonna do that for me, and they really like it, and it's great, they really love that. So go and do it. VAs are amazing, PAs are amazing, VAs are like all the things now, aren't they? I loved our VA when we had the agency, she was amazing. Kate, if you're listening, hi, I miss you. Um and obviously social media, that's another one.

SPEAKER_01

I think with VAs as well, if I can just stop you before we go with more outsourcing things, because absolutely I will talk about outsourcing social media, you know that. But VAs as well, there's so many of them that will, you don't have to have like a monthly like retainer with them. Um, you can just have like, you know, oh, you've got this big product launch, or you've got something coming up, and you just need a VA to do a couple of hours just so that you get them back so that you can go out networking, or you can go, you know, whatever it is that you need to do in your business, they'll do a couple of hours here or that, like, you know, and if you get a good one, you get a good relationship with them, and you can just like I mean, mine's you know, literally at the end of the phone. Um, and I just go to her, I'm like, I'm really struggling with this thing. Do you know, do you know, you know, do you have any help or support, or can you do it? Or she's always like, Yeah, I can do that, no problem.

SPEAKER_00

Like, you know, and it just just takes away that stress because I'd have to go off and go and learn it and research it and figure out how to to do it all and just give me what we need to kind of do is switch our mindset because we have this mindset when we're really on a business where I can't spend any money, but we do not value our time, and our time literally means money. So if we are spending hours and hours on a project that is not bringing us any joy whatsoever, we're spending too long on it because we're having to learn how to do it. That is your time being taken away from the business where you're not being productive and actually bringing money in. It's insane to me that people do not outset, out try that again. It's just gonna be that morning.

SPEAKER_01

Outsource from the outset.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. If you're ever gonna invest in anything in your business, it is getting rid of the stuff you can't or hate doing. It is so valuable. Shift your mindset from it's gonna cost money to actually it's gonna save you a load of money because it's gonna save your time, your passion is gonna stay within your business, and it's gonna do the job well that you're gonna blag. So just do it. I didn't swear.

SPEAKER_01

Didn't swear, but we know what the S stood for.

SPEAKER_00

But I didn't say it, so it's all right.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, it's absolutely because the the more time you spend on the stuff that you don't enjoy, the the less joy you'll have in your life. Um and it's you know, we are at the end of the day, um, I'm gonna throw some animal references now. We are at the end of the day, we're a pack animal, we're a pack creature. So even if you're running your business on your own, you know, we often say it takes a takes a village or something like that, you know, with with raising kids. But when it's on your business, yeah, you do need to find your tribe. Um, and you know, if you think of like a wolf pack is a great example of the fact that yes, okay, you have the alpha, you have the the leader that is spearheading, you know, where the wolves are going, but you'll have the hunters, you'll have the the mums who look after the the cubs, you know, you you'll have different roles within that pack. Does that make the alpha anything less of an alpha and the leader in that pack? No.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like laughing my head off here because the amount of animal references you manage to put in there, and I love your little anecdotes, your little anal allergies, not allergies, analogies to things. You you bring things to life through animals and a lot of cavemen.

SPEAKER_01

Through through storytelling, like it's it's almost like that's what I do very much.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, it is it is like it's like it's like what you do, Flick.

SPEAKER_01

I know it's like that's my passion to to bring stories to life and and make them meaningful. But yes, no, outsourcing is and there's such a stigma of you know, saying, Oh, I don't want to do that, I'm gonna I'm gonna pass it. Because when you don't like something, you instantly think that I'm, you know, by paying somebody else, I feel like, you know, when I first came to outsource, I was like, Oh, I can't pay somebody to do that because I don't want to do it, because that feels like I'm handing them like a second rate job. Do you know what I mean? Like this really, like, oh, this is this is beneath me to do this. No, it's not, it's just beneath my my joy level. It's beneath my enjoyment.

SPEAKER_00

There's a few different um mindsets around it, really. Obviously, the money is one, there is a fear of spending money, which is just you have to start valuing your time. That is the biggest thing that I could say about that.

SPEAKER_01

Your time is has a reason why the quote is time is money, my friend. Like there's a reason why that is a quote.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But there's also going back to what you just said about the stigma around it, I'm not sure there is this, or there definitely shouldn't be a stigma. But you know, we're talking to people who really want to grow their businesses. So if we use an example of a really corporate organization, a big organization, they don't outsource because they've got it in-house at that stage, but they have departments. So they have finance departments, they have marketing departments, they have all these different departments within the business. The CEO at the top isn't doing any of it. They've got the departments because the business has grown to the level they can have them in internally, but that is outsourcing. So if they're doing it, there must be something in it, you know. If somebody's got to the level where they've got a really big organization, so they've got in-house departments where they're outsourcing the stuff that they don't know how to do, there must be something in that. So start doing it from the outset. Get into that mindset if you are a growing business, you want a growth business, you cannot do that alone. You have to have a team of people, you don't need to employ those teams. You can have self-employed people helping you on your journey of things you don't love or things you're not very good at doing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and there's no shame in that.

SPEAKER_00

There is absolutely no shame in and I had a really another, another really valid point, and I just can't remember it now.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know whether yeah. I think when I first went to to my VA, and it was because I had a task, and it was that I had that mentality of like, I've got this task, I know the fact that you like doing admin stuff. Um, and I used to be an administrator, like I used to work for for big companies in their admin departments. Like, so it's not that I don't know how to do admin tasks. It was just I looked at this one particular task and I knew it was going to take me probably about six to eight hours to do this task, and it was really, really important. It was really something I've been neglecting in business. Um, basically, it was updating my CRM, which I had just been neglecting. I got a stack of business cards that I'd written on the business cards where I'd met a person, or I'd made little notes of you know what conversations we'd had or wherever it was. Um, and I got a stack of those, I got a load of emails that were like flagged of to be added to CRM and all this kind of stuff. And I just had this data everywhere, and I just needed to just collate it all into one CRM, update my notes, up, you know, and I contacted my VA, Nikki, she's absolutely fantastic. Um shout out to Nikki. If Nikki listens, I don't know whether Nikki listens, but I contacted Nikki and she still uses this story to this day in networking. I've heard her use it. Um, and I said, look, you know, there's a relatively simple task, but it's just time consuming, and it's not within my wheelhouse to do. Um not that it wasn't within my wheelhouse, sorry. It was just just apologize again. Um I'm not doing well today, folks. Brain is not braining.

SPEAKER_00

Um This is either gonna be a really funny one to listen to, or people are gonna go, why did you record this episode?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we should have given up and just started again. Um, but yeah, I contacted Nikki and said, Look, this is this is the situation, this is what I need to do, but it's really gonna help my business to actually have all of this information in one place that I can just access. And she blessed her, she was like, Oh my god, I love that kind of work. She was like, Yeah, send it over to me. And what I figured was gonna take me, you know, six to eight hours, she did in like I think it was like three or four, because she just sunk her teeth into it and she absolutely lives for that work. And I now feel really good about the fact that like I've I outsourced to her because it's like, well, she really enjoyed that. Yeah, um, why have I not done this? And since that moment, I'm literally every everything that I've got. I'm like, right, or somebody goes like, Oh, I need to do this thing, but it's taking me so long. I'm like, call Nikki. Go speak to Nikki.

SPEAKER_00

I think though that no, it's gone.

SPEAKER_01

No, she had a thought.

SPEAKER_00

I did, it's gone. Hang on, hang on, I'll get there now. I will get there. Just don't talk for a second. Um interesting listening on a podcast. I've got it. Let me say it before I forget it again. Um there are jobs you hate doing, but here's the big shock. Every job you hate doing, there is somebody out there that loves it, absolutely loves that job, and they can do it so efficiently and so well. Why wouldn't you? You are a classic example of that. Social media, how many times do you hear a day? I hate doing social media. Why are you doing it then? Why are you doing it? Hello, I'm here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Actually, if I I reckon if I had my a pound for every time I heard a business owner say that to me, I wouldn't actually need to be a business. I just I just actually I just live off that of people saying they hate social media.

SPEAKER_00

I love it.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I don't uh I don't think so. I hope not.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not aggressive.

SPEAKER_01

I've known you for long enough that I know. You know, I'm not being aggressive. No, we're just we're just passionate. We're being passionate, that's what we're being.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, very passionate. Go on, I interrupted you, carry on.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's just it is exactly that when people say, like, oh, I hate doing my social media, it takes me so long. And I'm like, So outsource it. Outsource it. When people go like, oh, I can't really afford that at the moment. I'm like, so there's your goal. Go out and work your butt off until you can outsource the things that you don't like to do, that you hate to do.

SPEAKER_00

See, you're so much nicer than me, because my answer would be to that, can you afford not to?

SPEAKER_01

Well, there is there is a yeah, there's the element of that of, you know, well, actually, how long does it take? And actually, one of my my longest standing clients, um, she said that in the fact that when she was doing her own social media marketing, um, it was taking her something like four to six hours a week. Yeah. Um, but because she's now outsourced that to me, um, she gets those four to six hours back a week that she can serve her clients, that she can charge her clients. So I she's she turned around and she basically said, I'm paying for myself because I'm giving her back that time that she can then go out and earn that money that pays for my services. And it, you know, so she doesn't even see it as a as an expense anymore because I still actually do wicked things.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you can't hear it.

SPEAKER_01

I can't, I can't, which means that they can't either. Because we have this with your dogs the other episode, didn't we? When you were like, the dogs are being really loud, the dogs are doing this, and I was like, sat here again, we can't hear it on the podcast, so you're fine.

SPEAKER_00

It's um yeah, I'm not I don't live in like an unreal world. I know that you have to get to a level before you can afford to outsource the money, it doesn't just happen, it doesn't appear. Um, but in terms of investing back in your business, I just think it it's a no-brainer. You've just said it, somebody's taken back six to eight hours. And you know, we talked on previous podcasts about working on your business instead of in it. What if you had those six hours to work on your business every week? And you have got the time because you've you're doing a task that you could outsource. So you've got the time there. If you're working on your business and driving it forward, imagine having six hours a week to work on your business, how far your business would go. That's crazy. And that's the element that's the kind of your time is so valuable. That's why you need to outsource it your earliest opportunity, because your time is what will drive the business to grow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and you can't you can't get back time. I think uh I remember listening to a speaker and I do forget uh the name of the speaker, but they turned around and said, you know, you can always make more money, you can't make more time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, you know, like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That was like a a a Wednesday Willy Wood wisdom thingy. A Wednesday what wisdom was that? Well, I've got it on the mind because the husband went in for the snip this morning. I just denounced that to the world too. I think that's wound me up, actually. Going back to the hormones, just going off topic, it wound me up because he went and did it, and I feel sorry for him. I do, you know, he's he's he's resting at the minute, and my husband doesn't rest. In his defense, he never rests, so I've had to force him to go and rest. But he got home and I was like, You really do have it so easy. Like it's a 20-minute procedure, it really does not compare to childbirth, to monthly hormones, to menopause. Or if I wanted to go and get, you know, the female version of that done, it would be completely different. Oh my god, they have it so easy. And I do feel sorry for him, and I know that it's you know an uncomfortable couple of days, but you know, I had an uncomfortable couple of months, yeah, you know, with the things that yeah, sorry. So that's probably why that came in.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I've been in a deep uh again ADHD hyper focus with some of the news things that are coming out at the moment, and actually in certain countries, like a woman couldn't have go and have her tubes tied without the permission of her husband. Yeah, but uh a bloke can go and get yeah, you know, his tubes tied from want of a better terminology on a podcast.

SPEAKER_00

We go way off topic now.

SPEAKER_01

Without, and I'm like, oh, it's just just there's female rage, and I'm like, oh, is that my hormones and I'm coming into play? And like I went into that like I literally yesterday I was reading so many news articles, and I was like, Oh, I've just I've just spent two hours reading the news when I should be doing other things. What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_00

And imagine, imagine if those two hours came back into your business. That'll never happen though. Let's be realistic, people. Okay, if you're a neurodivergent, you are going to lose hours every week that you should be working for your business.

SPEAKER_01

You see a word and you go, Oh, I need to research that because I I don't fully understand that. And then two hours later you go, hmm, should really not be reading about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so you're gonna lose those hours, so don't create more hours, go and give it to somebody else.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

So I think we've exhausted this episode, or we've exhausted our listeners, one or the other.

SPEAKER_01

Or we're just feeling exhausted from how we're feeling too.

SPEAKER_00

I think this was a real kind of hormonal neurodivergence special. Let's advertise it as this is a special episode. I'm not sure I've got any Wednesday wild words of wisdom. Yes! Okay, right. She said it. Yeah, Wednesday wild words of wisdom. I did it. Hormonal and everything. At the end of the time is valuable.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was gonna stick with the you can always make more money, you can't make more time. That's that's just it was such a powerful quote the first time I heard that, and it's not lost its potency. And I always think that, you know, yes, okay. So yesterday I spent, you know, a couple of hours, I don't think it was quite that long, but I just spent an awful lot of time reading news articles, and it was like, well, I can't get that time back, but actually, you know, I can work harder for my clients, work better for my clients by outsourcing the things I just don't need to do to make more money. It's it's yeah. So I'm gonna stick with that as my wild words of wisdom for this Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00

Cool, and I'm gonna let you have it this week because I don't think I can top it. Let's end it there before we really say things that we shouldn't.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks for listening to us this week. Yeah, it's definitely been wild. No apologies. Although I did apologise several times in this episode.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we're not apologising for the episode. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, we're still gonna put it out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. See you next time. See you next time. Thanks for spending this time with us on Wildly Intentional. If this podcast sparks something for you, take it with you and act on it. Don't forget to subscribe, share, and come and say hello online.

SPEAKER_01

And remember, bold talk leads to big breakthroughs with no apologies.