Kinks, Chaos, & Sports Romance | An Unhinged Chat with Romance Author C.L. Rose

This week on What the Smut Are You Talking About, we are bringing the chaos and the spice with a very special guest, romance author C.L. Rose (aka Candice) 

She’s an Amazon Top 100 bestseller, a true crime junkie, and the mastermind behind some of the most addictive spicy sports romance books out there right now. And yes… she might just unlock a new kink or two along the way.

We’re diving deep into her writing process, how she’s pumping out absolute bangers, and the real behind-the-scenes of writing steamy emotional romance novels.

Expect laughs, a little oversharing (okay, a lot), and the kind of unhinged thoughts that make you question everything, including your Google search history.

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– Welcome to the Chaos

SPEAKER_02 0:01

What's up, Book Nerds? Welcome to What the Smut Are You Talking About podcast. We are a weekly romance book podcast where we talk about books and chaos. So, yeah, pretty much anything goes.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Join us as we talk about the books we are reading, what crazy shenanigans are happening in our lives, and who knows, we may have some fun guests drop by.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

So grab your favorite snacky snack and your beverage of choice and come hang out and see what the smut we are talking about this week.

– Meet Spicy Romance Author C.L. Rose

SPEAKER_02 0:36

Hey guys, welcome back.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Hi, hi, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

How's it going? Pretty good. I'm really excited because we have a special guest with us today. I know. Our guest, first published in 2024, is a true crime junkie, an Amazon top 100 bestseller, writes spicy sports romance with swoon and humor.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

And she is known to cause some new kinks or two to be unlocked. Let's give a warm introduction to C.L. Rose, also known as Candace. Hi, Candace. Hi, how are you? Good. Thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Absolutely. What are you currently drinking? And is it strong enough for this conversation?

SPEAKER_01 1:22

It's funny because my husband always calls me a beverage goblin. I'm like, I'm one of those people who needs like the coffee and the water and the Alani and the Coca-Cola, like all at once. Because and I will drink them all. And then I'll have like also like yesterday's coffee that's pushed way far away so that I don't mix it. And then I just kind of sit there and wait until he comes in and like clears it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Oh, love that. How many drinks are you drinking right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:56

I have got three by me right now. I've got a coffee, a Coca-Cola that I think is from today, but I'm not gonna chance it. And then an Alani. What Alani flavor do you like the most? So right now the lime slush is my favorite, but I do hoard the witch's brew. So I'll buy like a bunch of it and then like keep it through the year. So I love a bunch of that.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

I hear people talk about witches brew. Is that like a limited time, like I guess around Halloween? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

It's around Halloween, and I will absolutely my mom works at a grocery store. She's a manager of a grocery store, and she'll be like, okay, like it's in, you better get here. And I will go, I will fight people over this stuff. Like I will I will I will fist fight in an aisle if I have to. That is hilarious. Usually their distributor will bring like extras, just knowing that I'm gonna be there and I'll buy like I I have no problem buying like a hundred of them at one time and just being like, okay, I'll see you in a month.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Like I love that. That is hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

So, Court, what's in your cup for the day?

SPEAKER_02 3:08

You'd be so surprised. I am on a water kick right now. So I have some flavored water with me. I'm trying to do better, Mary.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Trying not to uh go through the diet coke like crazy.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Yes, I'm trying.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Well, I'm about I'm about as boring as it can get right now. I'm on plain water. So, Candace, on a scale of plotter to feral gremlin, what is your writing process like?

SPEAKER_01 3:37

It's like literally both of those things because when I'm first going to a book, I have no idea where I'm gonna go with it. Like I'll usually have like the tropes down, at least, at least some of them, like the main ones. But then like from there, I just kind of like let the characters take me where I'm supposed to be. And then when I get to about like three quarters of the way, like when I know that the the main like conflict is coming up, I will kind of start to like, okay, this needs to happen in this chapter, this needs to happen in this chapter, and then kind of like plan out the rest of the book, but that's when I uh already know, you know, what happened. So I do kind of try to let the characters drive the story because I find that when I don't, they do what they want anyway. So, and it's harder to like fight for them than it is just to let them do what they want to do. What they want to do.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Love that. Speaking of your writing process, how in the world have you like popped out all these books? Like, good for you, girl.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

I mean, I do it like full time. Like this is, you know, I I worked in radio before I started writing. Well, while I was writing at the beginning, I was still working in radio, but just with the industry, it's like obviously satellite radio is taking over, and you know, like the streaming apps and stuff like that. There I really wasn't making that much money. So it wasn't difficult for me to be like, okay, I'm done doing this. Like I need to to make another move in my life. And, you know, that's when I decided to just go full time. So I write all day, every day.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Yay! That is amazing. I am like in awe of you because I could never that is when I was like, I started like jotting down all your books, and I'm like, holy crap, this is amazing. And they're like good books too. Like every single one of them are complete bangers. And um I'm like, this is art, and it's just art. That's all you can say.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Definitely. I have a lot of stories going on in my head all the time. So I think that's part of it too, is where like, you know, you know like what you want out of a story. Um even if you technically don't know what the plots like where the plot line is gonna go, like, you know, it gets you excited because you're like, okay, I have this great idea for a book. Like, I wanna I wanna get it down. I wanna finish it. So that makes it easier too.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

That's amazing. Well, who has been your easiest character to write?

SPEAKER_01 6:17

I feel like my easiest character, honestly, just this most recent book, the one that's coming out on the 30th, red zone. Mm-hmm. I don't I feel like I don't remember having a hard time with any of it. Like I I feel like the characters were just especially Sydney, because she's been there since the beginning of the the series and she's been a an integral part of like everybody's story. I think it was just like a matter of like getting her, you know, getting to her story so that I could put that out there. But Steele kind of surprised me because I usually when I don't know a character, when they haven't been in anything before and they're like brand new to my world, I struggle getting to know them and I did not with him. So I would have to say, even out of the two of them, I think Steele was probably the easiest to write.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

That is awesome. Well, on the like flip side of that, have you had like a hard character that was just like super hard to write or just completely hijack a story?

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Honestly, I think the hardest time I had writing anybody was probably Arden from Double Play. Her anxiety is like a a mirror of mine. So there's a a scene in that one where she's like having a panic attack, and I started it from her POV. And the whole plan of that was to just stay in her point of view the entire panic attack and kind of describe it from like what she was feeling, what she was seeing. And it got so heavy to me that I had to switch it to Hawks POV and then basically just ask my husband, like, what do you see when this happens? So I think just being as close to Arden, like personality-wise as I am, I think it made it difficult to kind of crack that part of myself open.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

So it's a vulner it's a vulnerability that it really, and I did not see it coming.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

I thought I was like, this is gonna be so easy because I live it and I'm like, oh, this is not easy at all.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

And now I'm just gonna go sit in a corner and cry. Oh gosh. Yeah. Oh, that I can only imagine.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Yeah, and that's the one where like I can't, I can't look at reviews. Like, I if I have to go to the Amazon page at all for that book, like I I don't even look at like the star rating on it because I'm so afraid that people won't like that one. And I I always feel like it's the FMCs that are like that they have that kind of like depth where you know it looks one way from the outside, but it's completely different under the surface. I feel like those are the FMCs that always get the most hate. Those are the ones that I love. Yeah, I'm like if you hate Arden, like you hate me, and we're just gonna leave it at that. And I'm just gonna assume you hate me.

unknown 9:07

No.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Well, we don't, we don't hate you. No, and not at all. What is a tiny detail in any of your books that a reader will never notice, but you completely obsessed over?

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Probably the accuracy of the gameplay and like the the rules of the game and stuff like that. I really try not to be inaccurate whatsoever when it comes to the sports that my characters play. And like a lot of people, they would never know. Like even in scoring position where Ace like dances up to the plate, it's kind of like a Savannah Bananas type thing, but he's in the MLB. I was like, okay, they only have 30 seconds to get from the dugout to ready for the first pitch. I'm like, he he can't do this in time. So I had to like put that down in the book that you know he he managed to fit all of this into a 30-second time period. And I'm like, it just, you know, it would be so much easier if it was Savannah Banana rules because then he could just do whatever he wanted. But yeah, I'm I'm always worried that somebody's gonna be like, oh, that's not that's not the rule. That's not how it is.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

I had no idea that that was a rule for like MLB. Yeah. Only had 30 seconds. So you taught me something new. Sam. Oh gosh. Well, what is the craziest thing you've ever had to Google, you know, for research?

SPEAKER_01 10:40

I mean, you've read my books, so it gets crazy, but um I did um no, actually,

– The Wildest Things Authors Google

SPEAKER_01 10:48

the first thing that I had to Google, it was during the Blizzard series. It was when I was writing QB Keeper. And I ended up in a Reddit forum and got some pictures that I technically asked for but did not want. Um, I went into a piercing form because I was like, can you wear a cock ring with a Jacob's ladder? And I couldn't find the answer via Google. So I went to Reddit and I'm like, hi, this is gonna sound really weird, but I'm an author. I'm writing this book. Like, is this a possibility? And those people share pictures of their piercings.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

So oh my god, did someone send you a picture?

SPEAKER_01 11:39

No, they they didn't, they like replied with the picture, like it wasn't even like a private message or anything. It was just like, here you go. Here's the answer to your question in photo form. And I'm like, um, thank you. I'm never coming back here again. Oh my gosh. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

But yeah, no, the that was the the most memorable time that I've ever searched for anything. But honestly, just with red zone, there were so many searches. Like there was so much that I did not know about like chastity cages and different kinds of um like bondage and gags and stuff that I am not familiar with. And I wanted to make sure that I was using them correctly, so or that they were using them correctly. So a lot of Googling there was pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

I just had like a flashback because, like, you know, I've always been a huge reader, and I I lived with my grandparents growing up and during college because it was just like too expensive to live out on my own. And I remember like sitting at their kitchen table and I was reading Fifty Shades of Grey for the first time, and I didn't know what half of them. Yeah. So I'm like sitting here googling this, and like my face is getting so red. I'm like, I can't read this here.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

That is too funny. I have to admit, I've never read that one.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

That was where it all started for me.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

I feel like I feel like that was a lot of people's like awakening when it comes to like BDSM title.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Yeah. Cause you should have seen my friend trying to describe this book to me. I was like, what? She did what?

SPEAKER_01 13:33

And the thing about that too is like we were a lot of us were introduced, and that was just like maybe not the best introduction to like a relationship. I like that. Yeah. And like being so like not young, but like unaware. I feel like I wasn't really young, just unaware of this whole world and wanting to like try it for myself and be like, what is this? Like, that was like the worst introduction. That's honestly why I'm so worried about accuracy and consent and stuff like that in my books. Because I'm like, what if this is someone's like that? You know, like what if they're reading this getting their information? I want them to get it correctly.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

Yeah. See, I was already I was already in the indie space reading and blogging when that came out. And so I think that's why I just didn't do

– Writing Spice, Kinks & Getting It Right

SPEAKER_00 14:33

it, read it, because I was in indie and I didn't want to do mainstream. And I just never, I've never picked them up. So when you're writing, do you have a favorite snack of choice?

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Um, I like will burn my tongue off with atomic fireballs. I just I keep them coming while I'm while I'm writing, and then I wonder why my tongue hurts at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Okay, so what is this? Because I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

I have not had one of the I have not had one of those in years.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

It's kind of like a jawbreaker, but it's like cinnamon. They're very hot. Like they're very like, you know, spicy in that like cinnamon type flavor way. That is hilarious. And they're red.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

They're like your entire tongue and your lips red.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Yeah, fire engine red.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

See, I'm I'm the type of person, like I can't do anything spicy, even like chewing big red gum back in the day. Oh, that's it. I could not do it.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

I can do I can do cinnamon spicy or like the sugary, like the sweet spicy, but when it comes to like spicy food, like you know, hot sauce on my food, I struggle. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

My my husband's like, yeah, you need the hot sauce or just pepper. And I'm like, no, no, pepper's hot.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Yeah, I'm the odd one out. We've got like two shelves in our fridge of hot sauce, and pepper is a staple of cooking.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

So you currently have three series out right now. You got the Boston Blizzard, which is football,

– Inside Her Spicy Sports Romance Series

SPEAKER_02 16:10

and then you have Daytona Fury, which is your baseball series, and your current series, Rock City Renegades. Um, you just released your fourth book in that Red Zone, and it's also football. And I am here for it. And I can't wait for this one because you know, I I recently done Mr. Irrelevant on audio because it came out not too long ago. So I'm like impatiently waiting for the rest of them to hit audio. You meet the FMC in Red Zone in Mr. Irrelevant because it's like it's workplace, but owner's daughters. And so the first one is one daughter, and I'm really excited for this next one because I just love the whole dynamic of their family.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Yeah, no, they are just like the best family ever. And Sydney's story, I feel like I mean, it really hasn't been that long. Like Mr. Irrelevant came out last July, but I feel like I've been waiting like a decade to write Sydney's story for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Oh my gosh. Also, also, I will say Mr. Irrelevant taught me something that I didn't know was like a thing. Um, because he has what was it called? Why am I blanking so hard right now? Refract refractory? Refractory period.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Oh, his no refractory period, yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Yes. I was like, what is this?

SPEAKER_01 17:38

And then I was like he's a unicorn in that way. Yeah, so he doesn't need any recovery for two rounds.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

I was like, what in the world?

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Yeah, that was a little treat. This is a real thing. Yeah, he was really fun to write because you just like nothing was off the table for him. So he was fun.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

I have to catch up. I'm working, I'm working on the Boston Blizzard series. So I have to, I have to play catch up. And I fell in love with Run Game because I'm all about the dancer stuff and literally bought the book. It was my first book of years that I bought, and I bought it because of the point shoes on the cover.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

I love that book. I the audio is like, it's probably one of my favorite audiobooks of mine. That one just it it really like the emotion in it is just insane. I'm gonna have to listen on audio now. Oh, it's so good. There's actually one scene where Avery, the the female narrator, like if she's not actually crying in in the one scene, I like I haven't asked her, like, are you actually crying there? But I mean, like, we're all crying. Like, I'm crying, you're crying. Like, it's just I've never felt that kind of emotion, especially from like my own words. Like hearing it read back that way was just, I think that was my first, like, real time when I kind of looked at like this this thing I'm doing, and I'm like, holy shit, like I'm actually writing books that like might make people feel things.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Definitely. I have to tell you, I highlighted on page three in that book where she says that we're just going to put it in a box, lock that bitch up, and donkey kick it right into the ocean. And I'm like, that is so relatable. It really is. Like, who doesn't have a box like that? You know, like never open that again, ever. And I knew it was gonna be fabulous when I'm not even three pages in, and I'm like, we're highlighting that.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Oh my gosh, I love it. Also, in Mr. Irrelevant, like it probably has one of my all-time favorite fuck it moments slash Jersey moment. Runs up the steps to his house after the game. I was like, oh. It was like the perfect amount of tension moment.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

Yes. Oh, the tension in Sydney and Steele is I think I think their story is definitely the most tension-filled I've ever written. So Maddox and Libby were close because it was like that that forbidden, like, we shouldn't do this thing. But just with everything that goes on between Sydney and Steele, like it's I can't really say it without giving it all away. But it's just there are so many moments where they come so close and they're just like, nope, we can't. And it's like, oh my, I was getting frustrated with them. I'm like, can you guys just bang already, please? Like, I'm tired of this. Can you get to the fireworks? And I mean they do because they have a one-night stand, but that's not what I wanted. I'm like, give me the give me the real, the real thing. And they made they made me work for it.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

Oh my gosh. I love

– “Clock Play”… or Cock Play?

SPEAKER_02 20:57

it. Well, as I was noting this out, I put your next title of the series is clock play. But every time I look at it, my brain reads clock play. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

You're not the only one.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

I'm like, okay, no, I'm like so married to this title because it's perfect for his story. But I'm like, yeah, no, everybody's gonna see something different there. And I'm just like touche, though, really.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

It vibe checks with the story. It vibe checks with the story.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Oh my gosh. I just had to bring that up because I was like, I don't know how many times I've read that. And then in my mind, I say cockplay. And I'm like, I'm gonna end up saying cockplay.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

You're you're not the only one. It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Just a little Freudian slip. I'm crying. That's

– Upcoming Book Tease

SPEAKER_02 21:54

the kind of day I'm having. Have you released anything about the fifth book yet? Do you have like a date?

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Or anything it's gonna be about. Can you talk about it yet? Yeah, no, I can talk about it. It's I don't have a date right now because I'm working on two books at one time. Um God bless. And I've never done that before. So I kind of wanted to make sure that everything was gonna be able to get done. I'm shooting for the last, either the last week in August or the first week in September, which is a little bit longer than normal, but again, two books at once. So I will make, I will make sure it's it's worth it, worth the wait. And as far as his story, I think I think it's okay if I say that it's um Austin's gonna be getting himself a single mom. Ooh, we're here for that. I love him because he doesn't have a like the renegades are his family. His parents passed away. He doesn't have siblings, he's all on his own. The last like serious relationship he had publicly cheated on him. So, you know, the guy is just kind of not closed off to like just the thought of bringing someone into his life, but you know, he's definitely very wary of everyone. So he's kind of become like the dad of the renegades group, and he's just content with that, but he's about to get his socks knocked off. So that's gonna be a fun read. Same.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

That's and that's one thing I love about this series. Like every book in this series has some sort of like found family aspect in it. And yeah, I eat that shit.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I love writing that. I love writing that. I like to think that that's how like real teams are, and I I know not all of them are, but I don't know. Just as a sports fan, it it makes me happy to think like what they're doing on the field, like they do off it too.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Yeah. Well, is Clock Play gonna be the last book of this series?

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Yes. Um, but you will meet the the main characters of the next series in it. So it's gonna be a lot like QB Keeper, how you you met Rigza Monroe from the next series, like in that book. It'll be very similar to that, just because I feel like it slows me down to enter a new world with all new people. That was like my main issue with writing Mr. Irrelevant. And I like I got off to a slow start because I'm like, I don't know any of these people. Like I knew Jet from the Blizzard series that got traded, but I mean I barely knew him. So he was only in, you know, just his one little novella. So, you know, I was like, I need to do that again, where I'm bringing like a a couple from the one series and then turning that into something else. It just makes it easier for me.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

I love that, by the way. I love when authors have this whole world that they created and all the characters are kind of in the same world. And sometimes you may see a cameo or hear a cameo of their name being dropped. And to me, it I'm such an immersive reader, and when I read, I have like a movie playing in my head, which I know not everybody does when they read. And so when the author creates a world like that where everything takes place in the same universe, it just it hits different for me.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

I'm obsessed, obsessed with Rock City's world. So I can't wait to see what you throw at us next.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Same. We're just gonna switch up sports again for uh for a hot minute. I I love football, it's it's like my favorite sport. It's I eat, sleep, and breathe football, but you know, sometimes you need a little bit of a yeah break from it.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

It's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, for sure. I just love sports in general, so whatever you got, I will follow.

– What We’re Reading Right Now

SPEAKER_02 25:52

All right.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Well, Mary, what are you currently reading? I am reading Contractually Mine by Jennifer Chipman uh as an arc. But then I'm also so I am actually reading two books at once right now. Oh my gosh, which is a thing for me. I know. I know. Aliens have inhabited my body. So I am also reading Chasing the Ring by Lauren Rowe.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Fun, fun, fun.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

How about you? How about you, Courtney? What are you what are you diving into on audio?

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Yeah, so I am doing the Dixon rule by L. Kennedy. Because you know, we've been talking about Briar U's universe for a couple weeks now, just because of off-campus coming to Amazon. So I was like, I'm gonna do the the second gen series. So I'm on the Dixon rule. It's not keeping my attention like her other series was. So, but I'm also I also started Inferno by El Wilder and Which is like her.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Mm-hmm. So that is her, that is her very, very first series, I believe. Yeah, I'm a huge Maverick is a really good one. Like, if you're not into Inferno on Audible, I would say switch to Maverick.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

See, I I think like I like the concept of it, but I feel like maybe I don't know if it's because there's two different people writing it, or maybe if it was like the first child.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

She did write it with Brooke Asher, but like only on the first book, because like when you get to the second book, it's just her. But that was her, that was her very, very first series. And if I was going to steer you to start anywhere, it would be with Maverick with the Satan's Satan's Fury. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

I see that audible.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Yeah. Yeah. That audible is is awesome. I have it on audio and listened to it years ago on a plane ride and loved it. Loves the audiobook.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

What about you, Candice? Are you reading anything currently?

SPEAKER_01 27:58

I did just finish All Is Fair in Love and Malice by Jen Plummer. I get friend privileges, so I get all the books early.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

Ooh, fun.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

And I I also bought, which I haven't gotten a chance to read it yet, but um Darling Daffodils Farm by Brittany N'Cole. I bought that last week when I went to the bookstore.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

So it is so good.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

It is freaking amazing. I can't wait to start that one. I just I I feel like I never have time. I feel like if I'm reading, I'm reading my own books and I'm editing them and I'm, you know, hardly ever have time to actually read.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Right. Yeah. And like, especially and like when you're writing too, it's like you like that's like your whole life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

I don't know. I just like with with writing two books at once, I feel like I I don't even have time. Like I come out of my office at like five or six o'clock and then real life starts, and you know, yeah, I don't really get much of a chance to actually like enjoy a book very often.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah, I am in all of you, like I couldn't, I would get so much messed up.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

I feel yeah, no, I feel like if I didn't know Austin and like what I wanted out of his story so much, like I would be so confused right now. So I think that's the only reason why, like, if this was like book one of a series while I was doing this, I would be so confused.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Well, what about TV or movies? Are are you watching anything currently, Candace?

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Just sports mainly. I'm the NFL. We're in the thick of baseball and and hockey playoffs and stuff like that, and obviously waiting for off campus to finally drop.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

I'm contemplating whether or not to take the day off because it's like, do I just want to binge watch it so I no one ruins it for me? Or or you know it's going to get ruined.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

It's going to be ruined. It's totally going to be ruined. It's going to be spoiled. Like those clips are going to be everywhere. So yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

So I don't think we have a choice. I think the day off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Oh. May 13th should just be national PTO Day, okay? Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

I plan on working very hard on May 12th to make sure that I have nothing to do on the 13th.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Love it. How about you, Courtney? What's what's on your uh TV?

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Well, I am getting burnt out, I feel like. I haven't watched this week's Summer House. It's almost over. I haven't watched Rhode Island. I need to get caught up on that. But, you know, me and my husband started watching Millionaire Matchmaker on Netflix because season two dropped. And so that's basically the only thing I've really had time for. So just doing that for right now. What about you, Mary?

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Very nice. I am pretty much we've had baseball and the draft, the NFL draft on our on our TVs lately. That's been that's been about it over here. That time of year. It is that time of year.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

We have every single sport doing something, and I have like three TV screens playing different things at once. I'm trying to keep up.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

What is your favorite sport to watch, Candace?

SPEAKER_01 31:12

My favorite sport to watch is definitely football. Like I just I feel like because I have like such a a good grasp of like the rules in the game, just football. You know, it's easier. Whereas I'm I'm newer to hockey. So while I want to soak in everything and like make sure I know everything, it's a little harder for me to like, you know, to scream at the TV and do all the things I do with football and yell at the players when I can even kind of do what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yeah, I like watching football on TV, basketball and baseball, it's definitely so much better in real life.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Yeah. Like definitely. If I had to choose like what sport event I was going to, it would be a baseball game every time. Same. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Same.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Just watching it live is so much better.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Yes. Give me the boys in tight pants and my hot dog.

unknown 32:02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

And send a mask down every once in a while just to shake things up. Yes, definitely. Well, listeners, be sure to drop in the comments or our DMs and let us know what we need to watch, what you're watching this week, and what you're reading. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

And now it's time for our unhinged thoughts of the week, where we take our

– Unhinged Thoughts of the Week

SPEAKER_02 32:26

thoughts, no context, no logic, just vibes, and unpack it like it's completely normal. So, Mary, what unhinged thought do you have for me this week?

SPEAKER_00 32:35

My gosh, what unhinged thought do I have for you? I had one and then it totally went out of my head. This is my life right now. You you go first and maybe it'll maybe it'll come back to me.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

So it's been birthday party central over here in my household. Can I just say not only should we just normalize meltdowns in general when you have small kids, but normalizing meltdowns at birthday parties, I am like like it, like sometimes I just don't even want to go just because I know at least one of my kids are going to melt down over something. And it's just like all these parents are like looking at you like what, like I can control it? Like, and which I will say, you know, we are working on regulating our emotions. Like Sawyer started play therapy this month. So I'm hoping we can get him a little bit better. But man, like just stop looking at me. If anything, if you're gonna look, come help.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

Like agreed, agreed. And especially if you're a mother, because I'm sorry, if you if you actually Yeah, no, there's no way your kids aren't doing that too or haven't done it or whatever. Like exact, exactly. So if you are shaming another mom because her kid is having a meltdown, like I hope you step on a Lego. I think my unhinged thought for the week is people who create computer viruses should fall into a bed of cacti and never be able to pull them all out. My my my mother-in-law, bless her heart, calls me because she's on a MacBook. And if you know anything about computers, Macs typically don't get viruses.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

You really have to try very hard to get a virus on a Mac. Like you need to be like in 2000s Napster software.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

Which even took me back. Which even still, I'm like, I managed not to get a virus with Napster on my Windows PC. So we're we're good. But but she calls me and thank God I think it was just a pop-up. So she didn't click on anything. And I think just a pop-up happened from some other web page she was on. But she calls me and it is literally blaring in the background that you are on a site that would steal your identity and that um do not turn your computer off or you risk losing blah, blah, blah. And she sent me a screenshot, and it's like popping up with your windows is infected. And I'm like, this can't even happen. Like you can't have windows. Well, you can. I mean, if you do a virtual desktop and all that stuff, we're not, we're not diving that deep. But like traditionally, you don't have windows on a Mac. And so I told her, I said, just push and hold the power button, turn it off.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Yeah. So always unplug it and plug it back in.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

Yeah. Well, I didn't, she took it to Geek Squad and they turned it back on and didn't see anything wrong with it. And so they cleared her cash and her cookies and said it looked good. I haven't had a chance. We've had a lot going on. So this just happened yesterday. So we've had a lot going on today, but my hope is tomorrow to remote in just to make sure everything's on the up and up because it's malware bytes is on there. And that pop-up should have never happened, anyways, if malware was doing its job and running the way it was supposed to. So I'm like, I'll try to remote in so we can see what's going on. I but I do think the people who profit off of taking advantage of other people need to fall in a bed of cacti and not be able to remove the needles. Agreed.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

Listen, when you said that, the only thing my brain could imagine was um in Lion King, where the um hyena like like shooted into the bed of cacti.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

It's been so long since I've watched The Lion King. I'm like, I don't know that I remember that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

That's I love how the way my mind works sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Well, what about you, Candace?

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Do you have an unhinged thought for us? I mean, it is, but it's like unhinged is my baseline, so this is like a little higher than that. I feel like I'm on a a a different kind of unhinged level than you are. Well, we love it. Give it to us. I saw a thread earlier that said, and I cannot stop thinking about it. It said, if a woman's downstairs is strong enough to bleach a pair of panties, can it whiten your teeth? Oh my god. And now I need to know. Like I will not rest until I find out the answer to this question.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

So well, and you have to drop us a DM so we can have the oh my gosh. But can we say that can we recognize that that's not healthy either? Like, honey, go, go, go get you checked.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Yeah, but either way, I I need to know, and it's you know, it's gonna consume my thoughts. So that's where I'm at.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Wow, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

That's I mean, it can bleach a beard. So we're we're not far. I mean, that has been proven so right.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

So, what does it do to your teeth? And is that good for your teeth? Not that I care. I'm not, you know.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Well, no, but those are the questions that trigger down that rabbit hole because I'm like you. I would want to know, is it healthy?

SPEAKER_01 38:27

Is it like, am I wearing your enamel off? What's going on? Like they need to know. Exactly. Exactly. Do I need to get some special toothpaste next time I'm shopping? I obviously want to protect your teeth.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Oh, that's the best unhinged part of the deck. Yes, that's the best one I think we've had yet. I agree. Oh, we need to get more unhinged people, Mary. Yes, we do. Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

I'm at your service literally anytime.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

I love it. I love it. I wouldn't expect it any other way. Well, Cadice, what do you have up next for you? Do you have any events or anything going on? I do.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

I have Signed with Spice is coming up at the end of May. That is in Maine. It's in Bangor, Maine. I'm really excited about that one. And then the first weekend of August, I think it's like August 1st, is romancing the Glass City in Toledo. Nice. Right in my own backyard. That's that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Other than that, I like it when you you don't have to travel far.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Yeah. No, yeah, because Maine is far. It's like a and we're driving and it's 12 hours from our house.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

But also like flying for me, just because I'm a wheelchair user. So flying for me is like difficult as it is. And then on top of that, I'm like, how do you get all the books there? How do you get all the equipment there? How do you get like the table stuff there? Yeah. I'm like, no, we'll rent a car and we'll drive.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

Well, I just want to say thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us um and taking time out of your weekend to come chat. Thank you for having me. Yeah, of course. Anytime. You are welcome back anytime.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Before you go, please tell our listeners where they can find you at.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

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SPEAKER_02 40:29

We'll have all the links in the show notes so people can find you easy. Thank you. This week we're gonna double dip for you guys. On Thursday, we have an extra bonus episode coming out. So be sure to follow us wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss it. And then next Tuesday, we have a special guest joining us again.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

Yes, she left her morals at the door, makes you question them and your taste in men. She is a pet lover and fellow caffeine addict. So join us next week and find out who we are chatting with. And as always, you can catch us causing chaos over on Instagram at What theSmut Podcast and me personally at On Point Digital Services.

SPEAKER_02 41:14

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