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What's up, good people? We are back, the Everything Under the Sun podcast. We are here with three of the crew. Bear running late, he's gonna be back. But of course, we got Bear Brown. We got the MJ of this podcast and shit, B. Gibson. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The MJ. Who is that? He's the MJ in Jordan.
SPEAKER_07Okay. No? Uh-huh. All right. She's like, I thought it was like master jackass, you know. Listen. I'm ready. It's been a long time.
SPEAKER_06You and your bag.
SPEAKER_07I got some shit up my sleeve.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you've been free. I knew that's baggy for freezing fire on social media for real.
SPEAKER_07I've been actually pretty, I've been, I think I've been subtled. I think I've I think I've calmed down a little bit because I've been trying to be like a model. Because I I have a I have like a plan for my future, right? Where I I don't want to scare my future husband away. Right. So I've been trying to do that.
SPEAKER_06You got a nigga in your life you're trying to smooth out for.
SPEAKER_07And this is Mo Jackson.
SPEAKER_06Mo Jackson, I'm here. I'm here with you. Exactly. She talked about the future. Now you give a damn about the future. No, exactly. Anyways. But yeah, man, we are we are excited to be back. Season two. Um, we got a lot, we got a lot to talk about. Oh, it's a lot of current stuff that's happening that we really need to discuss. And uh, we're gonna get right into it. We get right into it. So we could we could start out with gas prices.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you know what? I'm sorry. Let's start with it. Let's talk about I would think about shit as expensive, and I was like, oh, gas prices. Okay. Go ahead, man. Go ahead. Let's start off with gas prices. Okay, you know what? I'ma say this. I usually don't pay attention to gas prices. I don't because I'm like, yo, I gotta get gas anyways, right? So what's the point of even putting myself through that torture of just watching the numbers go up?
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_07But the other day, I usually my get my car is like a nice SUV type car type crossover, right? It's a crossover. So I my gas usually to fill my tank would be like $35 before Trump. Um BT.
SPEAKER_00This is like BT.
SPEAKER_07BT BT. It was like $35. The other day, I'm like, oh shit hit 40. Oh, hold on, 45, hold on, 50. And that's when it really hurt me because I'd never really paid attention. And we still can't do shit. But it's like one of those electric scooters that they rent on the side of the road don't sound too bad now. But like I'm so I'm so sad because like I used to brag about my gas, and I'm yeah, I can't. People that that put that 93 in that trying to be real bougie, like, oh my car only takes 93. All right, okay. That's for real. Yeah, oh it's uh it's for real. Yeah, but performance. Yeah, that's that's so it has to if you put regular gas in like a car that needs 93, what's gonna happen?
SPEAKER_06Start feeling you really like me to get the jitters.
SPEAKER_07You can tell I never had no luxury shit.
SPEAKER_06It'll start to mess with the oh all the so it's not like I just want to get expensive gas.
SPEAKER_07No, okay.
SPEAKER_06Oh nah, you think I would be getting that shit if I if I have to?
SPEAKER_07For real. Oh, okay. Well, excuse me, I never had a luxury vehicle before.
SPEAKER_05My car filled up with $74 the other day, bro.
SPEAKER_03$74. Yo, and it's crazy because like like me, I've always been an objection to like you gotta buy it anyway, man. Don't worry. And it's like, hell yeah, I'm gonna still worry simply because it's taking more out my budget than it used to.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But gas prices is about the same prices, ass prices. Like in the minute, man, people gonna be giving up ass to get gas. If the sex is like, when you look at it like like yo, man, like when you look at it like yo, a gallon of gas and a shot of liquor is the same fucking price. Like, what the hell? Drinking liquor, and then I basically man picked up and drinking again. My goodness. I was funny as hell, man.
SPEAKER_06I was like that too. I I never cared to worry about the gas prices, but that shit just kept creeping, creeping up. I go look at it. You got to just go get the gas, you know, take the help handle off, punch the the button with it. No, you're gonna go sit in the car. Like, I move over to this one and punch it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I'll just be like, shit. You know what? I'm only doing $15 worth of running around this week.
SPEAKER_04And then 30 gallons, 30, 30 to 32 gallons of truck, $1.50 per gallon more.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. To be exact, it's a dollar eighty-eight more than it was the pre-war. Right.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. So that's almost two dollars. I know that's hurting you. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_06One of the Mayweather punches in the gut.
SPEAKER_04So do you what do you do? Do you up your prices? Yeah, well, you got to. You you you change. You, you, I mean, depending on the type of event. Like if it's something where if if it's a straight pickup and drop off, it really, it really doesn't affect the price too much. But when they want you to sit around uh like modeling gigs and all that stuff when they want to go around the city and stuff like that, yeah, you got we gotta renew, you know, we gotta kick in a little bit more. It's like, you know, a day's cost. But yeah, right. That's the way of business, you know.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you buy it breaking by the bike. You can't go breaking even. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Breaking even makes no sense. Because you can't really break even because I look at it like this. If the cost of operation is the same as the cost of the service, yeah, the cost of my time is not even included. So I still never broke even. Working for free.
SPEAKER_06The customer don't realize that. Yeah, a lot of times they don't piss. They don't like so that's one of those things. Were you crazy? Was you busy for the prom season? Oh, yeah, it's still busy. Prom season's not over yet. Shout out to promenade going crazy. They've been killing it. Yeah, these kids have been going crazy. The parents, the parents are crazy. I'm about to say, it's God.
SPEAKER_04The kids might be the initial idea. It's the parents, though. Yeah. The parents, I I I've been doing the prompt thing 17 years now. Yeah. So I I started right after the social media explosion. And when I'm telling you, the ideas develop more and more and more. To this day, it's two parents, I'm not gonna say their names on air, but it's two parents who went above and beyond and set the bar. And those are two parents that use helicopters. One's child arrived in the helicopter, and one the first one was the one where they did the shoot with the helicopter. I thought that blew my mind. But then, but then one pair arrived in a helicopter.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I was like, and to that's to the to this day, no one's stopped that. Yeah. I had one who almost had their child uh do a shoot on a private jet, had it all lined up, but she the child backed out in a minute because he didn't he said he ain't he was the type of the mom was the attention seeker, the child wasn't. Child was an inadvert. Child was like, look, I just want to go to the prime. Yeah, I'm one only child when you're doing this, that, and the third, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you get you getting this private jet. You're gonna take this folks shooting. You're gonna live the life of which I live. That's what it is.
SPEAKER_03That's what I wanted about to know. You wanted that's exactly what it is, my parents. I'm living through you, you stubborn shit.
SPEAKER_07Parents is living by cares to the kids. They live in through their kids, yo. It's not even about the kids.
SPEAKER_06Shout out to the parents that went above and beyond all it, except for the ones whose kids don't deserve shit. Uh y'all need to stop.
SPEAKER_03Remember, your kid was a kid, boy. They do not deserve to go to prime. They probably doing drop pickups and drop the problem. We're gonna make some money too. Then they got it to the prime on the bus.
SPEAKER_04Pulling up on three wheels. I mean, pull up on the bus. But that's when you see it, that's when you see kids care about school, boy. Yeah, yeah. They could be doing bad all year. And then turn around, they done turn in every assignment, every homework assignment, they respect me teaching because they want to show out a prime, man.
SPEAKER_06But they did that though. I you know, I was riding around. You see kids coming, getting out the cars and going to the locations. Uh they killed it.
SPEAKER_04Salute to the kids and parents, man. Thank you for sure.
SPEAKER_07And all the graduates, it's that season, yo. Oh, yeah. Every the graduates are happy. A lot of graduates, like the weddings, the primes, it's that season. So it's it's gonna be a lot going on.
SPEAKER_06Transitioning to something not so uh uh enduring. Um, we had a situation here in Rochester, New York for all our our outside uh people where Trinidad and Tobago, especially yeah. Shout out, let's shout out let's shout out Trinidad and Tobago.
SPEAKER_03We are in the top five in Trinidad and Tobago.
SPEAKER_07It's Tobago, yeah. It's Trinidad and Tobago, tomato, tomato. No, don't do that. Don't do that because we don't be like Rochester, Rockester. You know what I'm saying? Don't do that. So it's Trinidad.
SPEAKER_06You mean we don't be you in Rockest?
SPEAKER_07Stop saying like it's Trinidad and Tobago. Put some respect to bagel.
SPEAKER_06We gotta say the bagel. Yeah, I'm definitely not messing with it. Trinidad and Tobago. Trinidad and Tobago. Yes, I'm definitely right, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, but we don't want to lose our following.
SPEAKER_07We won't lose our source down there, right?
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_06No, so so we we really we really are top five in Trinidad.
SPEAKER_03That's from that's really from our distributor, man. Bus sprout, that's for real. We're top five in Trinidad and Tobago. So yeah, yes. Hey, appreciate y'all. I it was part of that episode.
SPEAKER_06We talk about Rocky asking her if she's legal or not.
SPEAKER_04We in season two. We in season two, and we still haven't seen no papers, we've seen no specifications.
SPEAKER_07I got a real ID. I think that's a validation.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. And we all have real IDs with 15. Yeah, real ID. Like I said, I've been in Rochester my whole life. I've been in Rochester entertainment community for 30 plus years. Rocky is a plant.
SPEAKER_03Literally popular, literally a plant.
SPEAKER_04Ain't no history where you see, oh, she used to be a barback, then a cook, and then she hosted a couple parts. Yeah, baby steps for nobody. What somebody said Rocky B. I said, okay, where's she from? Everybody got get quiet. The goddamn thing in the cowboy movies roll through the scene, the world voice. Like, where the fuck she come from? She's a goddamn, she's a goddamn industry plant, and I'll tell nobody sell her. She just excel for her to excel over the years to where she at now selling out of she sells out on a birthday party. She sells out places where we bring national tour artists they can't sell out. She sells out on her name alone. Get the fuck out of here. She's a plant. Industry plant. She's an industry plant. She's gonna start the next thing you know, one of us go get uh replaced with a Caribbean. I couldn't make it this week. So I got my homeboy, Dominique, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello all. No, for that. This was hard work.
SPEAKER_07This was hard work and uh uh discipline and dedication to my craft. Shut up.
SPEAKER_03Oh, then she was on stage. You just had to just hire you. I know.
SPEAKER_07Yo, I played the because I played the back for a long time. Like I was friends with how you really got that spot. Listen, I I was friends with a lot of the women in Rochester at the time that was on top of the game. Like Esther, like she was a top of the hair game, you know what I'm saying? Like she was doing her thing with Bella Chevay, and I was true, that was my girl. Like, I was I was part of that crew, and then I just found what I was good at, and then I'd have to Esther. That's my dog.
SPEAKER_04That's been my dog since high school. You know, I was with the crew.
SPEAKER_07I was doing my thing, you know, doing fashion shows, and then I just kind of just found what I was good at and just and that's why you don't kick fit nil in this crew, yeah. Right, and I kick shit, okay? That's that's it, that's all. Shout out to Roger. That's all you need to know. That's it. That's all you need to know. I got a real ID of this shit. Okay, that's all you need to know. All right, okay. Talk about the situation.
SPEAKER_06You're still trying to get married in. Oh, never mind.
SPEAKER_03We'll save that for the next episode. There we go. Part two coming soon. Yeah, we have part two.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, we're jumping into a more serious topic. Uh-huh. Here in Rochester, New York, again, for all of our out of town uh viewers, uh, we had a real a real incident where a young lady um was allegedly picked up at a in front of a driving school here uh in Rochester and allegedly um sexually assaulted sexually assaulted, raped, or or whatnot. Um but it's been some some talks about it, uh, you know, the legitimacy legitimacy of her story. There you go.
SPEAKER_04I got it.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so legitimacy the legitimacy of her story struggling to get this shit out of the story. Allegedly.
SPEAKER_07Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07So what do you yeah, what do you want to know?
SPEAKER_06So, so the the talks have been, because it's questionable, uh or the legitimacy has been questioned, um, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. The the the the details of the situation. So she was picked up from in front of the uh the the driving school here, right? And uh apparently or allegedly she was picked up by this man, taken to his his home, um, which I which which from what I hear was upstairs in a building, raped or or sexually assaulted, and then um they arrested him on the scene right there. So the questions were the question that the questions that came about was, you know, is she telling the truth because a lot of things don't don't add up or not seeming to add up. Her cell phone was dead, uh, but then it got charged some somehow, and she was able to call her uncle and tell her tell him where she was and all that kind of stuff. Um so it was question. Some you know, let's let's let's have at it. What y'all think about the story that for those that have.
SPEAKER_04Well, um just from I've actually done a little digging into the story, not so much from a uh journalistic aspect, just from so in the neighborhood where the situation allegedly occurred, I know some of the business owners and people from around here. And a few conversations occurred. Like I said, all of this alleged. And I want let me say that I I'm extremely careful about how I discuss these things because this is uh one, I don't want to ever victim shame or blame because uh we don't know a hundred percent what happened. We don't know, we only know what's been reported. Right. Number two, we have to be careful because we don't want to take away the impact or the the authenticity of stories from individuals who have actually been sexually assaulted. And I didn't and I I I'm careful when I discuss this because the narrative that becomes uh credit we try to uh attack the credibility of witnesses and uh victims and all that stuff. I don't want it to be that. All I'm just saying is the things that we're we're only thinking we're talking about things that have been discussed in regards to the story. So shout out to anybody who's been who've been affected by this or any other situation like that. Our prayers are always with you, but and our thoughts too. But um one of the things that we got that got me and Brandon was talking about online was the fact that the gentleman in question, who's the alleged perpetrator of the uh the situation, was indicted recently. Right. Um with the part that a lot of people missed, a lot of people say, Oh, if he's innocent, why he got indicted, blah say blah. On the list of charges that were presented to the grand jury, he ain't got indicted on one of them. I'm not saying anything about the case, I'm not saying which one or anything like that. It's all public knowledge. If you research it, you can research it. But and I was telling people, I said, just because you get indicted for something doesn't mean you're guilty at all. Enough information was presented to the grand jury where they felt like they could proceed with the case. Right. That's it. There's people that beat like I said, I spend I spend a ton of time down in the uh down in the courts. There's a ton of people that walk from major cases all the time. These murder charges, assault charges, weapon charges. I mean, it's if this if you ever watch any of these trials unfold and see the evidence and information that gets presented during trial, I've seen times where the defense, in the middle of a trial, where the defense will come to the the the come to the prosecution, present something behind closed doors, and they'll come back after lunch and be like, trial over. Yeah, like we're we're dropping all charges. Right. Uh, and the judge will dismiss the case in the middle of trial. After after that, after after yeah, yeah, and this is well after the person has been indicted. And some of these people can't afford belts and they still sit in jail during these cases. And I've seen the uh the prosecution, I'm sorry I said defense, I've seen the prosecution just drop all charges, right? Listen, we're done pursuing the case, new evidence has been permitted, blah clay blah, whatever, whatever. Anything can happen.
SPEAKER_00Okay, right.
SPEAKER_04So but I've speaking spoken to some of the businesses and individuals who are where the situation had occurred, and uh a lot of them have taken offense to the young lady's story, and they said that during the trial information will come out that other people may not be privy to. And like I said, because of this ongoing, I'm not going to state which what. But there's quite a few people, even on the legal legal side, who are just stating that there's there's issues with the information, there's holes in the story. And I and my the one thing that affects me, I've I had a close family member who was sexually assaulted 75 feet in front of my home coming coming to see me. And during the trial things the information that gets relayed is horrific. For some victims they have to re recount. And it made the the alleged the alleged perpetrator painted a totally different picture of my family member with things that got released. But whether it was true or not, which it was untrue, of course, but whether it was true or not, you're presented in front of the jury. And if uh some certain people aren't ready for that scrutiny for the spotlight to be on them, sometimes, even when they're telling the truth, they can cast doubt. So this thing is just it's insane how these things play out. If you ever watch it from beginning to end, I've actually been privy to a couple from beginning to end. And in this situation, it seems like uh the alleged perpetrator has uh a lot of support, so to speak. Uh more so than I would think in regards to the situation. So it's from for me, it's definitely gonna be interesting how it plays out. Yeah, it says a lot.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm very curious to see how it goes.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'm I I think, yeah, I think the whole the whole city is is is watching this very closely. But my only thing is, you know, regardless of the relationship that they had, if they alleged if they had a relationship, it's just a bunch of stories that are out here about that incident, right? Whether or not the driving school was open, it was it was just you know, driving cars, school cars are usually marked, you know. Um so it's a it's a bunch of holes, but whatever that is, regardless of that, if if a woman is in your presence and she says no, whether she agreed initially or not, once she says no then and there, it's it's no. Right? And and if you decide to even even move forward or or act on your own personal lust despite her saying no, you're wrong. You're wrong. Right? And and that would be her strongest argument. If she said no at any point, regardless of anything else, I I I assume, because I'm not you know, I'm not privy to you know these type of cases and the terminology and what goes into what and da-da-da. I'm not privy to that. I don't I never practice law, but um I would assume that at any point if she said no and you still force yourself the case to be closed. Um and that's and that's the only thing I would I could say about that. No is no. Um and we'll see. We'll yeah, we'll see. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um as far as the issue, like I really think that it has a lot of layers in a sense. Because like Rock said, like, for the guy, his real problem is that if they had any kind of relationship, like, she could have fully agreed or have been agreeing to uh engage in a relationship of transactional pleasure, to say the least. And but at any point when she takes away consent, it will still be a crime. And also a rape kit, it doesn't determine consent. Right. So that's not gonna be in his favor either. Um whatever the determinant is, I'm just more on the side of, and when you do this, because we live in this ridiculous world now where there's no gray area anymore, it's either you all the way love something or you all the way hate it. Um I just wanted to be clear. Proof. Because if you look at the statistics, a black man is three and a half times more likely than any other man to be wrongly convicted of a sexual assault crime. In fact, out of all of the um exonerations or overturned and guilty verdicts, um, 75% of the men were black men. If you look it up, there's a famous case called the Grovelin Four. Um, if I'm not mistaken, a couple of them were actually executed. They're from Groveland, Florida, for a rape of a woman in 1950. And 70 years later, they just got exonerated like in 2022, and two of them were murdered by firing squads.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So they lost their lives for lies. So I think that is very important. Uh um just to make sure that they have cold, solid evidence on it. Um, however, it goes either way, I'm fine with it. It's just that the same way that people say you have to believe all women and give them the benefit of the doubt, at the same time, when it comes to black men, you should have full proof because history has shown us the same, the same way that it has shown to women as victims, that it's not been kind to them, it has also not been kind to black men. Yeah. And more importantly, innocent black men.
SPEAKER_04One of the things that whenever I we have these kind we have these type of conversations, they become so passionate. And sometimes in the in the discourse, uh personal feelings come up and people feel personally attacked when you say whether you lean heavily towards the woman's story or lean heavily towards a man. And one of the things I always stress, I said, I just hate to see anybody's life affected by a lie. Right. Um I had I've again I've had a friend, I've on the flip side, I had a friend who was uh accused of a sexual assault. And it was all and this was back in like I think I want to say high school, I want to say high school. And as a kid, we don't back then it wasn't it was it wasn't any social media, it was just a close in this circle of people who may have known the truth or may have not. Right. And later on it came out, the young lady admitted that she was lying, she was hurt because he was cheating on her. So it's this is her saying it. The and the the guy that I that was being accused, he knew he he never changed the story. He said, I can't believe she's doing this to me. Now there was no so there was no, they were all in high school. Only thing that ended up happening was his parents, because the the girl who said it was really popular, the parents ended up moving him to a new school before it got crazy, and she didn't go any further with the case. Later on, uh at a uh one of the teachers' funerals, one of our teachers that went to our school, one of the funerals, she told a group of us, like she said, I, you know, I've been she asked us, have anybody seen him? He had since got married and moved on. She said, and she admitted that she made the whole thing up, but it you know, it wasn't any social media around, nothing like that, so the story didn't get blown up. But she said she lied. Yeah, and I don't think she understood how much it changed his life. He was playing football, yeah, he was on his way to school and everything, but he had to leave because of the scrutiny and embarrassment, you know, and this was a popular girl. So I I hate to see if you if you if you say look for the truth, it seems like you're trying to discount what the the young the woman might say. Yeah, and then if you lean on heavily on the woman and you find out later that it's not true. Like I look at that story, uh the football player, Brian White, I think his name is.
SPEAKER_03Brian, no, I think it's Brian Burns or something like that.
SPEAKER_04Well, some uh the the football player who lost out on his career because a young lady said, I mean, it's multiple cases. Why? But that one they just made a movie about. Yeah, they made a movie about, yeah. And I'm like, and then you look at um one of the most impactful cases ever, Emmett Till.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04When they said that he whistled at a white woman, that the mob crucified that young boy, right? Tortured and executed that young boy. You know, all what they was stated was a lie. You know, I mean like I don't want to weaponize uh those those cases to say that women lie or anything like that. That's not the case. I'm just saying these things happen. He's this is actual history, right? But I don't want to use it to say that you know the discount, because there's cases of also those actual cases of husbands raping wives.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And you'd be shocked to hear, like, what? You know, like I remember when I was young and I heard how can a husband rape a wife? Like, you know, but no means no.
SPEAKER_06Right. In any situation like that is serious. And that's my one of my I I think that's one of the worst crimes you can commit. Um you know, aside from from from taking someone's life um and and and then you know, touching kids.
SPEAKER_04Um Imagine how terrifying it is for the woman. Yeah, yeah. Like God.
SPEAKER_06But but you know, we we're we're a podcast and we gotta bring up these topics. Um but staying on that topic and and and and you know getting getting away from this actual situation. I do not want to um um correlate this with that situation is this next question I'm gonna ask. So in cases where the women did lie, we've seen it happen, we've heard about it happen, we've seen the case go through and through, and it, and, and, and, and do we think that those women that lie are being punished enough for that lie?
SPEAKER_03No. Like um, like somebody may suggested this on Twitter, and and I honestly man would think that it would uh bring a lot more truth. And they say that, and they said that um and when someone brings such an allegation, if it is completely factually been proven to be a lie or fabricated, then you face the same penalty that they face.
SPEAKER_04I 100%.
SPEAKER_03I truthfully believe that that would really bring more more of a truthfulness.
SPEAKER_04Yep.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, why doesn't that happen? That's I mean, that seems like you gotta think about the worst you can do is you perjure yourself if that person pressed charges, like defamation.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man, but that's not true.
SPEAKER_04But I'm I'm like, okay, say, God forbid this that ever happened to me. And you gotta think about the impact of whatever you do in public, you lose everything. Yeah, you know, like even Jay Jay Z, he was talking about what uh with uh Tony Busby did to him. He said, even though most of the country, a lot of the country knew it was some BS or hoped it was B. Let me say that, not no. They hoped it was some BS. Jay said he lost like almost 200 million dollars. Yeah, he said he said that that cost me.
SPEAKER_06So the thing the thing with that too is And we don't I don't have 200 million dollars. I think with that too is so so the one thing that you have on your side at all times is an alibi, right? If somebody accused you of doing something um at a certain time and you know you got a solid alibi, you was really not in the in the vicinity of that, then then that's solid. Um but for for for the people that you know anybody can say anything. They can literally come out and just say it, and now your life is turned upside down.
SPEAKER_04He can start scrutinizing you, looking at you different, distancing themselves from you, all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER_06But when people take offense to it, like Jay-Z. So Jay Z usually he'll say, you know, it came out that you know I was at a certain place and this and that. But for dudes like for for real dudes, real, you know, real dudes, like we don't get into that kind of stuff. Like we ain't like that's not a thing for us. Like Jay-Z said. He said, You he said, he told Tony Tony Busby, he said, he said, you messed up, man, because I'm not gonna let this go at all. And he said, he said, and I loved when he said, he said, where I'm from, we protect kids. So I'm taking this to distance with you for that. And now I just read the other day, Tony Busby on the hook for some money.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, he uh basically he he didn't make to make a long story short, he didn't have actual rights to practice the type of law he was practicing, yeah, and taking on the cases that he wasn't certified to take on the cases he's supposed to. Uh Jay-Z and his team exposed a lot of that. So and like at one time, like he was practicing. If I'm I'm gonna misconstrue words, he was practicing using another lawyer's uh credentials to pursue cake money cases. And when he got exposed, he went the next day to register for something that he was supposed to have. It was uh it gets deep and Jay's deep. They they like he said, yo, he said, not only did you he you misconstrued my name and all this other stuff, now I'm at him. Right, yeah. So I'm not letting this go. I'm like, I'm you gonna you're gonna pay. Right. You're gonna pay. And it's gonna cost you. Yeah, I think it should. It's gonna cost you, and I think they should it should be like that.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I just wish I I think I just need I just need black men, men of power, to just be a little bit more aware when it comes to being around women. That's that bad, right? If you know you got something to lose, if you know you are a target, um, just to be a little bit more conscious of where you are, who you're with, how you move, body language, everything, right? Because I'm sorry, if you on that, if you're of of the elite, or if you're just a black man around a certain other type of race, you become you know, you you gotta pay more.
SPEAKER_06I went into college when I got to college and I had it all right there in front of me. You know, my path was set, I was there on my way to do what I was trying to do. You hear it so many times. Don't get caught up in this, don't get caught up in that. Listen, I literally went on my computer and type up the typed up a consent form.
SPEAKER_07So you give it to women? What? Well, it's it's funny you say that. Look at like Stephon Diggs, right? Like Stefan Diggs and that his chef and all that.
SPEAKER_06You know, I have my girl, but just in case we ain't had a consent form right in my room.
SPEAKER_04And I had to say, all my clients, not to cut any body, all my clients. When my clients sign it, yeah. Oh yeah. I'm excited to hear this. Any celebrity client that I have that come here, and I'm not like I said, I'm not gonna mention these artist names. But one of them, I make them do uh first of all, we make a we the young lady, if they're consenting, we we get a copy of the ID. Right. Uh-huh. We let them know it's a possibility in the disclosure. You may be recorded. You may be recorded, and you have to sign the agreement before you leave. And I've and I've got I like I said, I gotta file maybe at least 30, 35, 30 to 35 non-disclosure agreements over the time that these and these, like I said, these women, they didn't care, they had a chance to sleep with so-and-so and so. So or even if the opportunity presents itself, but you can't even come on the premises. And I stress that to my clients. I said, listen, work with me. I said, You have to protect because I've seen them get jammed up. Yeah, you know, I've seen them get jammed up and over weird situations that can be prevented. So before they go into the room, before they even come into the hotel, I meet you in the lobby, I might meet you in the parking lot, whatever. And I got witnesses. You you're on video, sign an agreement. I'd let the hotel people know we it's a team that I have in place, yeah, if that ever occurs. Yeah, and I've had, like I said, I've had celebrities that come back through. They've been like, oh yeah, get bear, dah dah dah blah. Because of that, because I'm forward thinking. Like, listen, yeah, I'm like this 20, 30 minutes, a couple hours of pleasure could cost you millions. Yeah, potentially millions, yeah. And your career. Yeah, yeah. Because we got and uh there's there's people like that out there.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I gotta start calling you. Start calling you when I get, I'm like, listen, let me call bear because you gotta sign an end of year before you I before you step into thinking about it.
SPEAKER_06Is that serious? Because a whoop a woman could be coming in there just for a quick quick coming, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and look at look, I think Kevin Hart. Yeah, Kevin Hart was a prime example. Like she like I'm thinking like it was when I'm looking at it, and I looked at the case itself with Kevin Hart, I'm like, first for I'm thinking, oh man, he done sexually assaulted somebody. No, right, he literally he did cheated on his wife. Yeah, the lady, the the late female lawyer tried to get a bag from him to shut it down. Kevin, like, I'm not giving you shit. I cheated on my wife, rock out, right? Like, you know, it was consenting because the girl has set up a camera. Yeah, the girl set up a camera to blackmail him, yeah. The blackmailing and kevin heart, like I said, I don't know the full details of the story, but I'm like, it wasn't even about it was it was about two consenting adults, and she felt like because of who he was, it was hurting her, and they wanted to sue him. I'm like, oh my god, this is a setup, yeah, yeah. Straight setup, yeah.
SPEAKER_06That's wild. So Kevin Hart just came under some scrutiny.
SPEAKER_07Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for his roast. Oh, yeah. Hell of a segue.
SPEAKER_04Hell of a segue.
SPEAKER_06He did it too early. He tried to just you know piggyback off the Tom Brady joint. He should have let that one rock out because that shit was funny. Tom Brady roast was funny. Yeah, and Kevin Hart tried to do it. I think he should have waited.
SPEAKER_04I think what it was is they presented it to him. I think you know, Netflix people come to him, they say, Listen, we want to do da da da. We got the same comedians. To me, I first of all, like like I think I don't know if it was uh Cat Williams or somebody said, to me, when you do these type of roasts, it should be from people that you actually rock with, right? You know what I'm saying? I I watching the old, I was watching uh online the Richard Pryor roasts, yeah. It was from his team, yeah. It was from his actual team, people that rock with him. Yeah, they like, yeah, we work with him, like they had Robin Williams on there. I said, Why was Robin Williams? Then I come to find out he was on the Richard Pryor show, he was a cast member, right? Richard Pryor had taken a liking to Robin Williams early on. It's like, yo, Mo, you're gonna be part of us, and he that roast was crazy, right? And you see, now it's just these popular comedians, social media engages, and people that don't even know each other, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Roasting somebody in this thing and a third. Some people make whole careers off of this.
SPEAKER_06They're up there talking about they only did it because they're getting paid and yeah, exactly. The jokes was written for them and all that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like it's not it's not even wrong thing. Like, I like I said, I didn't even watch it. I said, when I see, unless I know it's like a authentic roast, I mean why, man, it's there's people trying to cash it.
SPEAKER_06One of the comedians made a joke about George Boyd, yeah. And you know, it's been on.
SPEAKER_07They say it was super inappropriate, yeah. It's very a lot of the yo, listen, a lot of the jokes to me were super inappropriate, but that's not my type of that's not my type of comedy.
SPEAKER_06They they they they kind of mask it and say it's just comedy, yeah. But that's it, yeah.
SPEAKER_07It's a lot of underlining, like racism, and it just like it was just bad taste.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I'll just look at it like this, like um, and I'm a big fan of comedy. Roast are always like that, like roast roast, even remember Richard Bryar Core Roast, all they talked about was how many he did so much cocaine, right?
SPEAKER_04So, like it sleeps, it slept with men. So roast I don't really have a problem, it's for children.
SPEAKER_07I don't know if it's true or not, but they joke people don't joke about the type that people don't make gay jokes on purpose.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, man. I mean shit, man, you know the other name for Richard. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04His ex-wife, some of his ex-wives that came out and said, Yeah, they they they him and him and Marlon Brando got it popped. So yeah, one of the greatest actors of all time. He just ruined a part of my life, bro. Hey man, I'm not gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_03But that's one of those things, I mean, but you know, like, like, um, so I really don't have a problem with the dark humor. You know what I'm saying? Because again, that's what they really are. And I don't know if a lot of people don't know this, but most of our favorite comedians do not write their routines. Especially man, once they get big, they don't write their routines at all. So, like, I'll give you a prime example. We all would consider Keenan Irie Waynes less funny than Eddie Murphy. We would all consider Raw and Delirious extremely funny classics. Keenan and Iri Waynins wrote heavily on both of those. So, so man, for that part, I'm fine. What I think is that roasts aren't really appropriate in this culture because everybody's so sensitive about that. Everybody. Everybody's so sensitive about every little thing.
SPEAKER_06That's why he's the LJ of this shit.
SPEAKER_03Especially things of the thing. Especially niggas. And niggas expensive. Here she goes. Like for me, this for the black people that's on like Kevin Hart, like, oh, he's a coon because he let that white man talk about George Floyd and he knew in the Vance, this and that and third. Where is your smoke for Netflix? Netflix, who actually airs this, read and approved these jokes prior to filming.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03Where is your smoke for them? Like, it's fine if you have this smoke for Kevin Hart. That's fine. You can film how you want. I mean, but if we're going to be honest and even, there was just as many jokes going back at the white guy. I call it the Kyrie Urban effect. White jokes. So, like, for me, so my thing is this you say Kevin Hart should be this and that. They used him, this, that, and third, but but you still paid Joe $20 a month for your Netflix. Right. You you paid the Piper.
SPEAKER_06Bam. Bring the ban Netflix. So no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to ban Netflix because I understand comedy. Nah, it'll be on my own. That's true. Like, that's where I draw the line. Even in the time break, they gotta approve everything. Was out of line. It was super out of line, and he even kept it room, but he was like, yo, like afterwards, like he said something like, if I could do that again, I wouldn't let some of them jokes through.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Tom C said that? Yeah, because that's what Rose got roast out of line. The only difference I think between man Kevin Hart's and traditional roast is that in traditional roasts, you don't get to say shit to the end. Yeah, exactly. He was talking throughout the roast. You don't usually see that. Like Richard Pryor or or the most commercial, yep. They I mean it could be 50 people there. Yeah. They talk 50 first. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06He kind of made it corny by talking.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I think that's what it was. I mean, but I think it was the right time. I mean, he's at that level. Yeah. Like he's at that level.
SPEAKER_06When I say he should have waited, it was too close to Tom Brady's because Tom Brady's roast is still cooking. People still talking about it.
SPEAKER_03Brady roast from two years ago, bro. Like funny. How much time they got let the roast marinate, good brother.
SPEAKER_06That's what it's still funny.
SPEAKER_03But like, man, I was a fan, though, fan of it. I mean, I mean, if I wasn't uh uh a fan of anything about it, a lot of it just wasn't funny like that. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like it wasn't even about tasteful or distasteful. A lot of it just wasn't funny, right?
SPEAKER_04I think it's also something too, and uh piggyback on Brandon say, I mean, like, what else is he doing right now? Right, you know, like the we hyper focused on the roast they presented to him. He really ain't like, you know, even with him cutting back heartbeat productions, said he's scaling back what's working, not working, all this stuff. Like, other than tours, he's not really doing that. We wouldn't we like last few, I'd say last couple years, what we have what are we talking about? I know he got that funny. He got the funny that was funny.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the Indian guy? No, they said he's not the Indian guy. I got a guy. It's actually it's actually good. It's actually really good.
SPEAKER_04But like I said, remember he was he was he was a part of he was Kevin Hart was part of the algorithm on a regular basis. Like everything you turn around is Kevin Hart is Kevin Hart Kevin Hart is not really going on now. So, you know, they probably said now's the perfect time. The I don't want to say the height of your popularity, if it's the height, I don't know if I don't think it's the height of his popularity, whatever, but but he's put enough time in, like Brandon said, for the roast to happen. Like I just said, the way it went, it was more about the celebrity than the actual celebrities, actually, than about the celebrity that they roasted. Because in even in the older roasts, you had people that came up and talked about the comedian that you never heard from, right? That you never knew about, that was behind the scenes. And they used to come, they would come with stories and stuff that people might not be aware of. The fact that we celebrate the roast more than we actually put the focus on the entertainer is like you know, like some crazy shit about to be happening.
SPEAKER_03Right now, he's done something crazy, like the deal he signed, like I think he sold his name, image and likeness, or something like that. And basically, like the deal is crazy, like I think it's like a billion-dollar deal. And what it is is that he sold his name, image and likeness, then used some of the money and brought heavy stock in the company that bought his name, image and likeness. So now he still gets paid off of his name, image and likeness, and whatever else they call stock. Like that's an elite shit.
SPEAKER_07That's like getting your methods.
SPEAKER_04When he was on when he was fired, yeah. When he was on um The Breakfast Club uh making a poor attempt to explain himself, I don't think he should have said anything. A horrible attempt to do it. Yeah, I don't know what he was thinking, doing it. Explaining yourself, people die. If he didn't say anything, I think that's exactly what happened. It would have died sooner. But now you you can you condone the foolery or whatever. But my thing is he said that uh he's scaling back on things that he was spending a lot of money on, right? And you know, he was saying that is it necessary. People looked at, oh, well, he is this, that, and the third, he's not doing what he used to do, blah blah blah. I said, no. I said, any good company, like look at uh Marvel just laid off uh hundreds of their uh special effects people, like even though it's Marvel, this Marvel Cinematic Universe is the most profitable movie line in history. Yeah, but he said, listen, we if we're spending money, um, we look at you know, waste, yeah, every every good major corporation looks at where they wasted money at. And we're spending money on things that we can cut back from, because you gotta think about it too. What's happening is, and not to speak too much on the situation because I know some people that work inside the Marvel Universe, what's happening is that you got people sitting at home making these things called fan films, right? These fan films and AI, and I said this when AI got created. I said it, I said, and with the invention of AI, it's doing the job of maybe 10, 15, 20 people.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_04So if I why am I spending, I'm not gonna spend millions and millions of dollars a year when you got people sitting in the basement doing better jobs. I'll never forget the biggest example. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when it came the revamp came out. The trailer came out. Somebody from their home studio redid the trailer with their own special effects. What they did was 50 times better than what the movie studio produced. And they started taking a real look at these independent creators. And now with the ad advent of AI, which we are, like I said, anybody who watched it knew it's gonna change a lot. You know, like no, like I said, shout out to all my dope flyer creators, uh, all the creators out in the world and all that stuff. But man, listen, I I'm just saying, I'm gonna say, though, that's what you do. All I'm saying is this. All I'm saying is this. Just get ridiculous. Uh well when I for some of the imagery that I use to produce for my my company Feel Safe, I spent a pretty penny on them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_04Other day, I was like, no five sentences. Yeah, I got about seven, I got a few thousand dollars worth of imagery of this shit. Everything looked the same though. You can tell it's AI.
SPEAKER_03But see, the thing is, though, we can actually argue with that though, man, as far as its effectiveness. I'm a consumer in the market and I tell people, like, example, like if one of y'all makes something or do something, I know y'all. So I don't care what the flyer looks like, I know what y'all work look like. But if I've never worked with you and your flyer looks like the other hundred that went through, I'm gonna skip it. Oh, absolutely. I'm gonna skip it. And also, you do security services. So you are actually selling you. They're just reading the words that are selling you for these people that sell and products.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
SPEAKER_03Please, on the side of it, on the side of it, on the side of your flyer, just use that for pricing and information. Use your actual food. So if you zoom in on some of this food, it looks like play-doh, maggots, play-doh, easy bake oven food. Yeah, like yo, like I legit seen someone put me a macaroni and salad. I mean macaroni salad on their menu. I zoomed in, that shit looked like bing bong balls. Yellow ping bong balls. Why is you zooming in though?
SPEAKER_07I hate people like you, like they zooming on her feet. You know what I'm saying? Like her feet, like zooming on feet.
SPEAKER_03I ain't gonna go. See, I think that's weird. Like, you don't zoom in on feet. I'm gonna tell you why. Like, for example, I can't stand when dude see a flick and a woman, she looking incredible. And then you got one dude, them feet though.
SPEAKER_04I yo, I'd be shocked. I'd be I'd be I read through the comments, I'm like, wow, right. I didn't even know she's heading on. I was like, wow on the beach in the whole bikini, and you're zooming in on feet, look at that middle toe, go right.
SPEAKER_03She doesn't keep a clean house and she doesn't take care of her kids. Women that pinky toe is at a 42-degree angle. I don't like a pinky toe with sort of angulation, is it? But women gotta hear.
SPEAKER_04We do but women women horrible with that too. Yeah, we zoom in. Oh, they didn't. Man, listen, this girl is this girl knew her man was cheating. I don't forget the girl put up a post, she knew her man was cheating because when he took her selfie, he had on shades. And she said she could see the bitch who took the picture through the reflection on the nigga's shade. And he said, I thought, she said, You told me this bitch was your friend. Y'all don't think you were lying, mother. I'm like, how the fuck would you even think to look at something?
SPEAKER_06Yo, I remember one time I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm blaming him.
SPEAKER_04Oh, listen, I remember one time. Fellas never wear shades when you cheating. Yo, do not wear it. Shout out to my boy, don't wear shades when you check. Shout out to my boy G Reev, RMG uh entertainment. One time he put up a picture of a uh uh a picture of a tavern party on the rooftop, and he said, I'm the type of nigga that goes through everything because why the fuck is Rocky smiling so hard in this nigga's face? I said, What the fuck is he talking about party? Oh yeah, so I'm scared. I said, Where the fuck? And in the corner in the corner, you see Rocky in front of this nigga with a big ass tooth degree. I said, Yo, do you know how you had to analyze that shit? No, bro, bro, man.
SPEAKER_03You know what's it bear. No lie. I was at that same fucking party. Yeah, man, listen party member. This was funny, man. About man Rocky with it. Is it is at that same party? Somebody hit me like, uh, I see you in Rocky Face. Like Rocky and her friends are like in front of a fireplace, man. In front of a fireplace. I'm literally speaking in the in the general vicinity of the people there. Like, yeah, I see you in Rocky Face. Yo, that yo, I'm gonna say the one right up here. Yeah, yeah. You know what's crazy. I'm gonna say this, bro. You want to piss up? It looked like 63 people there.
SPEAKER_07You wanna you want to piss a bitch off? Take Rocky somewhere. I don't know what is about Rocky. No, but I'm just saying, men in general, they always like when when it comes to me, women get pissed.
SPEAKER_04When I put that picture of me and you, when we hug that off, we hug that Sky Lounge and I picked that picture up. Oh, I said we catch a sneaky link in the other fat nigga VIP, and you walk up to him. I said, You just you know blah to say blah. Yo, I they yo, mad people, mad women's inbox me. You really fuck with Rocky or this that third, and she got on my motherfucking nerves. She always fucked with somebody else. My bad, but I said, God damn, it was a joke picture. Yo, it don't even need a bitch.
SPEAKER_07I don't even know what I don't even know why I do what I do to these with these stop smiling these niggas' faces. Break up happy homes, you know what I'm saying? Nigga came over to my home because he was upset. I don't break up happy homes, yo. I'm telling you right now, if if I dealt with him, if I dealt with a man, if I dealt, yeah, he he came over because he was upset. If I dealt with somebody that you fucked with and you was fucking with him and I dealt with him, I guarantee you nine out of ten times, he never mentioned you or he didn't like he downplayed the situation.
SPEAKER_06Another pie. He downplayed the situation.
SPEAKER_07So that's a hell of a slow many people break up homes, like the nigga downplayed the situation, or he said he don't even know you.
SPEAKER_03No, no, what it is is this most in in translation. Rocky does not break up happy homes, he just comes to her home happy. He just comes to my home happy.
SPEAKER_07There's a difference, he leaves happy. I don't freaking know. I don't know what it is about Rocky. Y'all be women literally try to they sabotage my relationships. They really do. And I have that. And I love I empower women.
SPEAKER_06So what is it about Rocky? What is it about Rocky?
SPEAKER_04Why y'all call it Rocky Roads and Relationships? Rocky Roads Rocky Roads and Relationships.
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SPEAKER_06And with that said, Rocky, go ahead and set the side.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yes. All right, y'all. Thank you for tuning in to season two, episode one of Everything Under the Sun podcast. All right. My boy Bear Brown, B. Gibson, Mo Jackson, your girl Rocky B, and now the sun is set.
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