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Breaking the Ice
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In this episode we talk about Drakes Iceman album after a couple of weeks to take in all of the music. Jay-Z's Roots freestyle and the after effects, Do men really want women who don't have anything...and how much is enough money for a woman to submit??
What's up everybody? Everything under the sun podcast season two, episode two. Yeah, we got the same shit on because we shot this in the same night. God damn it. We're here. We want to make that clear. Don't judge it. I have done that in the sweatsuit, I think.
SPEAKER_04I don't give a flying fuck, okay? If I bought it, I'ma wash it and I I wear it. Like I'm trying to. This is my thing. I'm sorry. I got to see how you're talking about. We got Rocky B.
SPEAKER_06Rocky B in the building.
SPEAKER_01Of course. We didn't even do the intro yet. The homie.
SPEAKER_06The homie B Gibson. That must be a shit.
SPEAKER_01That's a sore topic.
SPEAKER_06And we got Bear Brown here on time for this episode only because we shot the episode one already, and he was here for episode two, so he on time is.
SPEAKER_01This nigga didn't have to tell y'all none of that. I could have just did the motherfucking intro and kept it moving. I don't know why he need y'all need to know about my goddamn personal schedule. Mo hate single women. Single mothers. Single mothers.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no. If they got five kids and only ten dollars left. So motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_01He said single mothers are poor. Sorry. Everything of the sun, motherfucker. How about that?
SPEAKER_06Mr.
SPEAKER_01Bills?
SPEAKER_06They just gotta go get some food with that ten dollars on the truth. Anyways, let's go. Um, how y'all doing, man? Any the summer here. Anybody planning vacation? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Listen, vacation.
SPEAKER_06So listen, I I this is what I do. I usually stop, stop all the crazy shit I do and grind for a little while. For like I took the year off last year. I ain't going vacation at all. So this year I'm out. I'm gone. Going to my same spot, eating at my same restaurants, sitting in my same beach chair, kicking the same sand, and I'll be back.
SPEAKER_04So that's that's vacation now. Right, do you take vacation? After 30. Do you take vacation? Man, listen, what is that? I really don't want to picture out of town for you. I really don't take vacation.
SPEAKER_06Until the job is done.
SPEAKER_04I really don't, because I work so much. I work, I work so much, but I'm I want to. But for me, a vacation to me is just it could be right here in Rochester. Nah, really.
SPEAKER_06If I don't got to work, you gotta go reset yourself.
SPEAKER_04Like when you hit 30, you know, you want a vacation where you can actually lay on the beach and relax and sleep in, you know, and go to a club if you want to, right? Before 30 and you go on girls' trips, it's like you need a vacation from your vacation because they want to go out, they want to ain't no sleeping, we getting up, we getting drunk. I'm I'm past that age. Like my vacation is going to a spa, you know, under resort, all inclusive.
SPEAKER_06That's why I go on solo vacations.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was gonna say that. That's where I'm at on vacations. Like, if I go on vacation now, I want to experience the shit there. Yeah, like man, not for nothing. Like a club is a club. Yeah, it's a building that plays music with people in it.
SPEAKER_01Only difference is I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
SPEAKER_00Now at this particular case, now there are buildings with different people in them when you leave, but at the same time, it's the same thing. It's the same. So, like for me, like example, if if I go to DC, I want to go to the African-American museum. I don't want to go party. Right. Because I'm very likely here to say, This motherfucker take over the tour on the museum, like, no, here, she's wrong.
SPEAKER_01He's gonna put the tour back aside, right? Frederick Douglass did use a hot comb. He'd be like, Frederick Douglass did use a hot comb.
SPEAKER_00First of all, first of all, I mean, I was cool to Kente Grant, son. That is not his cousin. I would not, but um, but uh yeah, yeah, no, that's what it is for me.
SPEAKER_04But uh yeah, excursions. I can I can respect that. Excursion, yeah. But when you go out with like the girls, and if you gotta wait, if you wake up in the morning, you gotta drink first. Like, I don't want to go on vacation with you. I want to be able to like sleep in, wake up, eat breakfast, you know, and just chill. Like no itinerary.
SPEAKER_01I do what I want. That's something you go on vacation with me, I'm gonna sleep. Yeah, you you gonna have to sleep at times. I don't give a fuck about it. And it's for a little bit. Vacation. Get that beach chair, plateau, whatever the fuck they call it, go sit on the beach, we're gonna people watch. That's why I go by myself. You gonna get the maps and we're gonna eat good and we're gonna sleep good.
SPEAKER_00Shit about this party. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04If you're busting in my room at nine o'clock in the morning with Don who get your hand talking about, wake up! This ain't I go on with it.
SPEAKER_00You can't even bust in my because for real, man, because like for real. Like, like if you pass, I would say man, 19.3 years old, you shouldn't be sharing rooms with nobody on vacations. 19. Well, you can't even bust in my room. We're not doing that. Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like you know one thing I thought. You know, one thing I thought I would like, and this is not a knock to anybody who does them, but I don't particularly care for them, cruises. I don't like it. And I the reason I say that because I went on I I went on my first vacation cruise a couple years ago, and I didn't enjoy it. Like, okay, now number one, as beautiful as the open water is, it's horrifyingly terrifying at night. I I have insomnia. I have insomnia. Now, during the daytime when all the music playing, all the stuff, all the music playing, all that shit, it's cool. Oh shit, this the open sea is beautiful. When you were a late night, when you uh late night overnight person like me, and you do all your thinking, and you walk back on them goddamn the decks and you see it's black, pitch black, black, and you don't know, damn, what if it's a monster over there? What if what if the motherfucker that's driving the boat drunk? You I'm like, yo, you start thinking like, oh, this shit is scary. Yo, I went on the the balcony of my room and you hear the engines, and you don't see nothing else. That's funny. And I've it got to the point where I say, damn, is this shit even sturdy? Like I was scared out of my mind. Like I said, that's it's an uncomfortable feeling. And when you get in the choppy waters, and that bitch starts swaying, I'm like, we had breakfast, and my first toast going to the left and to the right. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? Check the goddamn captain's credentials. And like the shit, I'm just uh because you have absolutely zero control of the environment whatsoever. Like I said, I like I said, I'm not, I I'll do a cruise. I I can do it one day. A hundred half days, cool, but three to five days I like to do that. I like kids doing it.
SPEAKER_06I like cruisers.
SPEAKER_01You can't fuck with them no more. I mean good.
SPEAKER_06I like cruises because you can. I mean, being on for if you really think about it, it's really stupid. Like to be out in the middle of the water on a boat where anything could happen is kind of crazy to think about, but I like I like cruisers. I go on, I go on.
SPEAKER_04I've never been on one. Yeah, you never been on a cruise.
SPEAKER_06Listen, when you go on, yeah, because you came on that boat. You don't know. I don't want to go back to the case. You don't want to go back to the cruise. You don't want to go back to the cruise. You don't want to go back to the cruise. Right. Everybody knows when you go on a cruise, go right to get a burger. Burger and fries be they good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that uh see, I and I and you and it starts to the point after a few hours, I'm seeing the same motherfuckers, yeah, same shit. I'm like, I'm good. I don't want to go to the city. It's like being on Rochester, it's like Rochester on water.
SPEAKER_06I feel like it's people, it's people that on the cruises that that live on the boat.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. Now see, here's my thing. It's people that live on the boat. But that reasoning behind it, like I met an old older lady on the cruise I was with, that her and her husband. Yeah, they're gonna be able to do it. They only go home to get clothes and they go the rest of the year they on the cruise. They live on the cruise. They live on the motherfucking cruise. I said when you think about the numbers, the money. Yeah, I get it. I completely understand it. I just I'm I'm I'm all set. Yeah, I can't do it. I've seen them cruises. I've had friends that worked on cruises that broke down. That uh gone for six months at a time. Yeah, exactly. Fuck all that. I'm not I'm good. I'm good.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, what about it? One thing I ain't doing, I ain't getting in no pool on a cruise though. Because that water gotta be, you can't change the water. Like fuck shit dirty.
SPEAKER_04I'm sure they filter. I'm sure they filter.
SPEAKER_01That's out of all the shit that can happen, your one knot is the pool.
SPEAKER_06Your one knot, I mean the ship couldn't sink, but I wanted to get a hold of unless you get stuck on the poop cruise where the sanitation shit stopped.
SPEAKER_01I talked to the guys about what happens when somebody falls off the boat like at night. Yeah, he would they would when I tell you that might have been the shortest conversation. The motherfuckers was they was uh it was in the captain. I'm like, I was like, what y'all do if a motherfucker if I said I'm I'm I'm thinking I'm asking a profound question. So I say, say one of the the customers gets tipsy and they fall over. That motherfucker looked back from the thing, oh they dead. You think we about to turn this motherfucking big ass boat around to go find one person? He said, yo, from the first five, he said, if they catch it in time, they will throw the lifeboats out and use a signal. But he said, imagine somebody falling off the boat and pitch black. He said, We can't, you won't, he said we'll never find them. He said, We've had, I'm not gonna say the cruise line. He said we've had two accidents where we lost people. He said we recovered one and we lost the other. And the only reason we we recovered the other one because there it was a uh a worker who actually had a flare.
SPEAKER_06Had a what?
SPEAKER_01A flare. Yeah, actually he had like a one of the workers, and he had like a jacket with utilities and shit like that, and he had a flare.
SPEAKER_05That's correct.
SPEAKER_01I said he said that's the only reason we got the other one. He said, but you gotta imagine the trouble. He said, This shit is as long as a goddamn city block. And you turn this motherfucker around, you can't bust a Yui. Right. You know what I'm saying? That was a fair. Like, I said, God, you see that motherfucker, he I don't even think he looked back at me. Oh, they're dead.
SPEAKER_05Like Kevin's delicious. I'm off. We gotta jump into this pod, man. Um yeah, but speaking of people that came back from vacation, go ahead. The homie Hove.
SPEAKER_06Shout out to the GOAT. The GOAT himself, certified goat.
SPEAKER_04For the roof pro. Yeah did you go? Anybody went? No. Okay. No, I sold my tickets.
SPEAKER_06Hitting me, FaceTiming me right from there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I saw the whole thing from the beginning from through a FaceTime.
SPEAKER_06So but uh Hove came out and he he he he he he did a freestyle that's people got some buzz right now. Yeah, he uh got the internet, got the internet going crazy. Yeah, did a freestyle about a few different people, right? Um, which was unexpected. Nobody expected Hove to respond to a lot of people. See, I completely expected it. Yeah, yeah. And in some form or fashion, I completely I thought he was gonna do it at his Yankee Stadium show. Because he is so this I got a theory on that. So this is Hove saying that I am hip-hop. This is hip-hop. Somebody say something about me, I'm saying something back. Absolutely. Unlike these other dudes that say, I ain't gonna say nothing, or I ain't saying nothing to these.
SPEAKER_00Like, no, I just think like that's his up. He's always done that. Yeah, right. Like literally always, and like and like welcome to smoke. Like, he will literally like respond when you're nobody. Like when he dissed 50 Cent, but 50 Cent was nobody. Right, right. Like, I remember he dissed the dude that was in Mace Holland World group. Like, 99.9% of people can't tell you who Mino is.
SPEAKER_06Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00But like he pays attention to everything. Yeah. So like um, I honestly fully expected it. Especially, like man, from his interview earlier this year, he said the difference in this year is we're on offense this year. Yeah, yeah. In all ways.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00Uh, hence the lawsuit going against the lawyer that tried to sue him. You know, so so that's one part of it. They tried to blackmail him. Um, yeah, and I just think it was just like, man, a part of what he was saying. And um, I thought it was good. You know, like a lot of people are like, it was mid he wasn't saying nothing, but I I don't think at this point he's in the mode of, oh, I want to say the most incredible bars.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00No, I just want to tell you the truth.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00And I think like a lot of people, like I see like the Drake fans, which actually goes back to something he said in the interview, where like, Stan culture has ruined hip hop. Like, where like when Jay-Z and Nas were going at it, we still listen to Jay-Z and Nas. Like Nas this bullshit to where if you like one, you gotta absolutely hate everything the other person do. And it's bullshit. So it's like, so when they say that, say that like the Drake stands and saying, like, oh well, Drake got him back outside. He meant to bother him. And it's like, he's literally done this for the past 30 years. You say his name, or eventually, now he won't respond when you do it. He'll wait two years from now on a random verse to tap your ass, then. Yeah. But now it happens to be clearly in a year that he's gonna drop something.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00So it's like, oh, oh, okay, this prime time.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00Now it's I obviously a lot of, well, he gotta be bothered because he's punching down. No, he's just punching. Like, and it's cool when when I mean these people are are, as they say, lower than him are just throwing rocks. It's cool. But then when he responds, it's wrong. Like, oh, oh, he must be that bothered because he's punching down if you know this is hip hop. Like, and not all that girly man tea shit. Like, like that's why I really didn't like the Drake and Kendrick battle. Cause like, oh, oh man, your kid not yours, or oh man, you beat your wife, or oh, oh man, you a sex offender. Like that shit corny. Like the Jay-Z shit, and I think man, like the Drake stands, they really be mad because like if you look at how many Drake battles, so to speak, his main angles are I likely got more money than you, I'm a bigger artist than you, I'm better than you. Jay-Z like the only artist that can little brother Drake. I'm bigger than you. I'm more successful than you.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So now it turns into, oh, oh, oh man, well, he's 58.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00He's 58, man, he's too old. But then those same people turn around when you say, well, Drake is 40 and he hasn't made any progress in his music.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00Maturity-wise, it didn't say, Well, well, not everybody gotta grow up. So why 56-year-old Drake, he gotta grow up. Right, right. Don't really make it out.
SPEAKER_01And um to piggyback off that, I'm a little bit more biased when it comes to this. And the reason I say that is because it's I don't know if I'm biased. It'll go both ways. First of all, I listened to uh I forgot the first the single where he Drake uh addressed everybody. Was it Shut the Hell Up? I forgot the name of the song. Uh the first, the one where he was talking slow over the beat and was addressing Jay and everybody else, Kanye, when he took a shot at LeBron and all that shit.
SPEAKER_00No, man, I I think it was called Make Them Pay, Make Them Cry. Okay, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01Whatever, yeah, Make Them Cry. I don't know where I got shut the hell up from, but whatever. Okay, yeah, okay. Maybe I was thinking that about him, but either way. Um the reason why I'm I I used to be a 100% Drake fan, but why I'm it's dwindling because number one when we okay, you take credibility as an artist. Whatever lane that you're going to be in, you know what I'm saying? Whatever, this is my take on it, this is nobody else's take. Whatever lane that you're gonna be in, celebrate that lane. When Will Smith dropped, I I celebr will I celebrated Will Smith for being Will Smith. Don't be gangster, don't try and be hardcore. Same thing with Ice Cube, you know what I'm saying? Same thing with any MC that like I've I follow. If you stay in your lane, master your lane, whatever, blah say blah. I like Drake because Drake mastered his lane, he mastered his craft. I don't like his music per se. I think he's the dopest elevator rap artist I've ever heard. But you it's the type of music like I listen to it while I'm in the elevator because I have no choice. Yeah, but once I'm out of the elevator, I want to hear that shit. Or Dennis office something. And I said that now that doesn't mean that he's not good. That doesn't mean that there's no Drake songs I don't like because there's some Drake songs I rock to this day. I just don't buy into the tough talk.
SPEAKER_05Who he is, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't, I don't, I don't buy into the like when you when you say certain things, like you ain't been in no wars, you ain't been in no trenches, but you talk like I'm big bro now. This bro, you do jingles, yeah. You don't you do your your your to me it his music doesn't weather the the the test of time, you know, like I like it, but like he everybody says good albums. To me, he's never done a classic album. I think the only thing he's ever done classic, which I gave him credit for, like I I was uh still a fan of his first one. Um the first song he did, the first album he did, because that album was a mixtape for free a year before. Okay, but then he dropped it, got behind, put out a couple more songs, dropped it, and the shit was like the number one selling album in the world. I said, yo, that was fucking amazing to me, and to this day it still is. Right. But we night and I respect the shit he's talking on that uh make them cry, whatever. I talk your shit. Because to me, statistically, he can say the things that he's saying. Like you can't take, regardless of how I feel about his music or him as an artist, you can't take away nothing that that cat has done. Right. Like I said, but uh to me, when you start looking at the the politics and how things play out and the music-wise and all that stuff, like the machine that he was suing against or with Kendrick and the whole lawsuit, he's using that machine now to propel his music. Yeah, yeah. The same thing that made everybody look at him crazy is helping them get these numbers when you're comparing himself to Mike Jackson and all that stuff like that, sales-wise, whatever. To me, when you start celebrating that stuff and you start drinking your own Kool-Aid versus the product of your the quality and product of your artistry, yeah, I like I said, I it's just questionable to me. But regardless, Drake is Drake, Drake is a machine, regardless. Now, when it comes to this Jay-Z thing, I like the fact that I 100% love the fact that he talk, Jake, Drake is talking this shit. I love it. He's like, yo, you can't big bro me no more. Like the Jigger's up and all this other stuff. But Jay-Z's a different animal.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you burger. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Like, like, like, you like I said, you you you this is a whole nother, you can't send shots at Jigger like that and not expect something. So the freestyle that Jay did, I love the fact that he even addressed the shit. Yeah, everybody was looking, like I said, you if you listen in this online, the entire freestyle is online, and if you dig into what he's saying, yeah, you know he's good for triple, double, and triple entendres and stuff. That shit was beautiful. Yeah, I say he, and like I said, and the fact that he addressed everything, he addressed Nicki Minaj, he addressed uh Kanye, he dressed Draguire White, he addressed uh uh Drake and all that stuff. Like I said, when we say he dropped the bar, yeah, Dave. I knew he was gonna say something about Dame, but and that was expected. Well, we're talking about uh Nikki being on the shit and about the kids. I said, Your husband can't even be around your own kids, and all kinds of like man, listen, like don't play with me. I'm I'm I'm I'm from the trenches, I'm from the battle culture. Right. Jay used to go around back in the days when they tell the story. Jay used to go around battling top-notch superstar MCs when this is what I do. You know what I'm saying? Like, so like I welcome all the smoke. And the the people excuses, oh, he back up. He don't need to do shit out.
SPEAKER_06Right. He having fun.
SPEAKER_01That boy has a smoke, but career. He's the first real, I think he's the first real billionaire MC active. He's active in the game. You know, like I said, he said it's gonna cost you to be to mention me. Like, come on, man. Right, stop playing.
SPEAKER_06Talking to the wrong dude.
SPEAKER_01Like you, when you like I said, it's you can't casually throw a shot at Jigger and think it's gonna stick without something happening. Right. And I like I said, I respect when you take away the sales, the the stands, like B said, and all that stuff, and you just go to the artistry, the credibility, and the status of these MCs. I love to see it. Yeah, I want to see what Drake says. I want to see what Jigger does and all that stuff. But stop acting like this man ain't been active and ran this shit and he ain't the GOAT the fuck out of here. All the dumb shit. Oh, he's too old. Too old for what?
SPEAKER_06He the goat till he got.
SPEAKER_01That nigga walked away on purpose. He ain't dropped the album since 2017.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_01And dropped the seven, eight-minute freestyle that shut the world, the internet down.
SPEAKER_06Right, right.
SPEAKER_01You know, that shows you the power and control and the and impact this man has had.
SPEAKER_06For JV Jay-Z fans, we know better. Yeah, we know better to say to to listen to a Jay-Z freestyle the first time and say, I don't like it. Because we you you're gonna find a double, triple honor in there. And see here week and be like, oh shit.
SPEAKER_01That's one thing I like about the internet because you got cats that broke that shit down immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06But so stuff like that, you can't, you can't really, you can't really play into it. For me, the freestyle, um I I felt like I felt like he put it out there, and you know he got this whole uh uh Mad uh uh Yankee Stadium thing coming up. I think he put a feeler out there. He dangled a carrot out there, and now everybody's gonna be waiting to see what he says at this at this concert. So I think he he's smart. We know he's smart. He playing the game like he wanna play it, and he gonna he gonna he gonna dictate it, and that's gonna be that. And and I'm I'm excited to see what he's gonna do.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited, I'm I'm actually I'm looking forward to see if Drake says anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I think Drake, Drake, Drake did that on purpose. He did it on purpose. He gotta know you can't you can't send a shot like that and then not be ready to back it up.
SPEAKER_00But he's done it before though. But for me, he done it before.
SPEAKER_06It's like, I honestly, I don't want to hear no more from Drake.
SPEAKER_01I don't want to hear no more because How you feeling about, okay, now that we're talking about Drake, how y'all feel about the albums?
SPEAKER_06I didn't I I don't want to hear no more from Drake. I didn't even listen to it. I ain't gonna lie.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to listen to it. Now I'm gonna be honest. I listened to the main album, the Iceman album. Those are the two albums, like one was House Music, one's called Habibi, and the other one's called Maid of Honor. And like those were pronounced wrong, I'm sorry. House music, and then the other one was like, oh man, RB. I don't really prefer my RB from a rapping RB singer. Right. So it's one of those things. But the Iceman album, um, you know a lot of people said, like, you had to digest it, man. You can't can't understand it in in uh a few days. Um, I'll say though, like the Iceman album, I would say the rollout was 10 out of 10. So yeah, the marketing behind that was 10 out of 10. Like the ice on the NBA seeds, the big giant ice cube, the final release date in the middle of Toronto. He spent like 20 million in the light up the CN Tower blue Mehforth album. It's crazy. And as somebody that had never listened to one complete Drake album, it had me listen to three at one time. So I think that rollout was great. Also, something else, I'm gonna be honest. Lyrically, you can't be a fan of real lyrics and not be a fan of him on the album. Like he has a lot of double and triple on like really creative witty bars. Like him crying later. That make him cry later. I listen to it. That's that point spit. Yo, that whole album, man. Like he was really, really like rapping, rapping, rapping. So like rollout 10 out of 10. I probably get a lyrics uh nine out of ten because it's like little parts where he just like gets into singing and shit and it's bullshit. But other than that, like lyrically, you're gonna get some melodies. Lyrically, you can't be a fan of real bars and say, oh, oh, man, this ass. I think the one thing that is like a one out of ten on the album is the substance. And part of that is damn near every song the topic is y'all traded on me, y'all didn't help me during the battle, and don't come back around now. Or all that, like that's redundant. And then the other side of all this is like then he keeps talking about like two years, bro. Nothing has happened to anybody. Right. Yeah, right. Like absolutely my city, but basically, we're gonna get him. I truthfully wish that I don't. If it wasn't Drake, a lot of the bars on the real. Yeah, you know, but if the redundance trade it don't come back around, it's annoying. And then like, like, and it started off dope, but he like, I'm a rumble nigga, and he's not, it's in my DNA. It's like you're you're not gonna do anything. And the pony is that the show is that is that the show. Yep. So when so right at the part that he's and the girl on the screen is the girl that LeBron for dancing at a show. That's whole shit in the man. Nice skin shit.
SPEAKER_01That's the aspect that I just like like he because even the interviews and all that stuff, he alludes to certain things that'll have people question it. I'm like, where the fuck? Where's this couple, this exposed cook? Like, if you're gonna get back at him, get back at him with bars, that's one thing. But like, even I lost respect for BD Siegel when he put that shit about Jay in the rhyme, like, I know shit that makes Beyonce look at you different. Like, nigga, like we all when people get hurt, get butthurt, and start doing weird shit like that. Yeah, like I said, you take away all your credibility, all this toughness, and all that. Like, that's old shit, man. Yeah, like I don't talk, yeah, man. I don't condone weird.
SPEAKER_06So, B, you said you said the lyrics was 10 out of 10, but the substance was one out of 10. Does nine out of 10 for the lyrics? Lyrics was nine out of ten, subjects, substance was one out of ten. Does that that's gotta diminish some of the lyrics though? Because if you don't, if if the lyrics is uh redundant, if you say him the substance.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no. See, see man, what it reduces, redundancy reduces the replay value. So, like, I listen to it, but I don't want to hear it again. Right. But it's a lot of music I listen to that I think it's entirely lyrically, and I don't want to hear it again. Right. Like, like, I'll give y'all a prime example. I thought that cannabis was the greatest rapper of all time. Sweet Jesus Christ. But now listening to what he says, and then I'm not listening to that shit. Right. Right, right, right, right. The build just is very, it's very rabbity rappy. Right. And like Drake has like four songs where basically a beat comes on and he just going off for like four minutes and he's killing it. But it's like, I'm not about to listen to this shit no more.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I get it. I get it.
SPEAKER_00Like, I'm not about to listen to this shit no more. Like I said, it's good lyrics, man.
SPEAKER_01It's like I said, but the for me, for the I only listen to Iceman, I'm I listen to the beauty, yeah, but whatever the fuck, the other two. But I mean like, but one thing about Drake that I respect too, he knows his market. He's he knows I'm bigger than just being an MC, I'm a global artist. Right, yeah, you know, it's the same effect that Eminem had when he was at his, like, I remember 40 to 50 percent of the music being put out that was being sold was sold by Eminem. You know what I'm saying? Out of 100% of the music, 40-50% of what he was carrying it himself. The same thing with Drake, right? You know, like he has he does have a polarizing fan base, and he appeases them with these because he's he's celebrated globally. Like, let's just be real. Like, this dude, the the difference between him and Jay, Jay is a Brooklyn MC. Right, he's never changed from being a Brooklyn MC. Right. The New York, the the the the roughness, the trenches has been in every song he's ever made. Right, you know what I'm saying? Perfect example of that song Cry. Never seemed coming down my mind. I gotta make the song, like shit like that. Like, Drake gonna cry on the record. I mister He's gonna pause the music. It's gonna be some real tears. We're gonna have some real tears coming off like yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_06So every time you play that, you gotta wait for this pause.
SPEAKER_01Hey, here we go. He's crying right now. I let the cigar, let me let the cigar burn. Okay, just like my heart burn. Just go back to rap. Like that's drinking. You know what I'm saying? So like I said, I'm not shit. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04I don't, me neither. I can't do Hove. I can't do Jay-Z. I don't uh I can't listen to Crazy. It's just too thank you, yeah. I like I like melody, I like cadence, you know. I like it. We appreciate we appreciate Drake. Girly girls, Drake makes songs for girly girls.
SPEAKER_01Drake is a girly girl. The nigga with the fucking duck lick pictures, the pink polish. That nigga is a girly girl.
SPEAKER_04I hate it. I hate when I have to listen to rappers and I gotta think like, oh, okay, oh yeah, oh wait, oh yeah, that was a double, okay, and that metaphor. I respect that. I respect that. I want to enjoy the music. I don't want to have to be like, oh, hold on, let me listen to the lyrics. Yeah. I like a melody, I like a nice melody.
SPEAKER_06So you're a simple but never mind. I'm a simple what? She's a basic B.
SPEAKER_04I just think. Listen, I'm a reggae girl, so I don't really give a fuck about it. Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But then you say you love Drake. You love Drake.
SPEAKER_00You love Drake, then. Speaking of simple, though, hold on, man. Speaking of simple, though, we can make a segue. Um, we had a conversation kind of off camera or whatnot. And um, and about do men really like women with nothing. You know, like man, with nothing. Like, like honestly, like I see it a lot. Like, I see like a lot of women say, you know what, man? Maybe I should sell my carbon and quit my job. Because niggas love a bitch with nothing.
SPEAKER_04One that was like really funny is when she was like, I should take my curtains down and put sheets up. Yeah. And maybe I died. She can get the band. She's gonna get your papers down and put sheets up. She won't be.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but let me go knock on her door. She clearly needs to be a little bit. She needs help. She needs assistance. But let me get there with this package.
SPEAKER_06But that's that's I think that's just uh uh it's easy, right? Yeah, it makes it make it make it's easier for a man to please impress a woman that has nothing.
SPEAKER_04The thing is, I think men are attracted to women that have their shit together, right? It's like, wow, that's like I'm attracted to that. But I feel like to actually like sit with it and deal with it, because there's a lot that comes with women that got their shit together. I ain't gonna lie. Like we don't, yeah, we ain't, we don't, we're less likely to really like submit, right? Our mouth, yeah. We we gonna answer back because we have that mentality, like, yo, I got my shit. I don't give a fuck. Move the fuck on, right? So you're gonna deal with some shit. But it's also women that got their shit together, also, we don't ask for much. So you got it's like a double-edged sword. You gotta take the good with the bad with everything. We don't ask for much. It's like we got it. So just show up, be supportive, dick me down, um, you know, and and listen to my problems.
SPEAKER_06I got a question. When you leave that when you when you when you when you done with the dude that that pissed you off because whatever, right? Because you got your shit together. You say, I don't need this shit, I got my shit together. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh. Yeah. Tell him. Uh yeah, what?
SPEAKER_06And then you're gonna find it. Y'all. I need to blow your present. What you know how hard it is to find you got your shit together. He's giving you too much, he giving I got my shit together, and I don't need this.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. But the problems that he had maybe is more tolerable than like I'm willing to deal with before you find that guy.
SPEAKER_06How many times are you willing to go through that?
SPEAKER_01Answer the fucking question.
SPEAKER_04It depends. If I gotta start over 800 times, I'm gonna start over 800 times if I f if until I find the person.
SPEAKER_06Is that the woman's mindset?
SPEAKER_04Until the person's gonna be a good thing.
SPEAKER_06So the woman's mindset means you're you're you're started over all these times. Yeah. Until you find him.
SPEAKER_04Until you find the person that you're willing to deal with.
SPEAKER_06Got it.
SPEAKER_04That's that's just what it is.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna answer this, I'm gonna answer this question like I'm I'm B. Gibson. I'm I'm playing. I'm playing B. Gibson. And then I'll like I'm B Gibson. Let's let's look at the statistics. Let's just look at the statistical facts that present themselves in this situation. Um, bear with me as I take you on this literary journey. Uh first and foremost, uh, as you look at the evidence, you take a woman who has quote unquote nothing, whatever that may be, and you're dealing with a man, okay, less than less than me, and you deal with you deal with a man who has motion, finances in place, his own shit per se. Uh there are way more women out there like that than there are available men like us. So taking those numbers into account, you know, taking those numbers into account, I'm less likely to be what you want me to be versus what I want to be because I know there's way more women like you looking for men like me, and vice versa. So I'm saying this slightly joking, to be and to be honest, when you take everything else into account, when you put yourself in a situation where you're dealing with someone who Okay, for okay, let me talk about myself, for example. I like a little opposition in my relationships. And what I mean by opposition, I mean talent. I don't use I don't use toxic. Y'all ran that last season they ran that shit in the garage. And a lot of a lot of toxic women was inboxing me ready to beat me up, thinking that shit might turn me off. I got so many inboxes. Come over here, I'll feed you and fuck you up. No, no, no, I don't like fighting. No, like goddamn, I don't know what they made you I fade you and fucking. What I'm saying, what I'm saying is the fact that I like a challenge. Okay. And by challenge, I mean, yeah, I want you to talk back a little bit, you know, like chill out with the fat bitches, okay? Like let's relax. Respect comes into play somewhere. But what I'm saying is that I like a challenge, I like a little opposition. I want I want some, I want that a little bit aggressive feedback. Like, you know, I don't want to come in and thinking I'm gonna have my way. Yes. But there's a line. Now, I don't mind, like I said, I don't mind helping any woman I'm dealing with, I don't mind helping her out at all. Because I want you to shine and be the best you can be. And if I can help you with that, cool, you know. But when the one thing that Brandon preached last season that I'm big on, it has to be reciprocated in some way. You know, now it's not enough for you to like me or be attracted to me or be into me. It's not that I I love it, but there's gonna be times, there's gonna be opportunities where I'm gonna need you. Yeah, I know in whatever fashion that may, it probably won't be financial, but there's so there's I might need that emotional support, I might need uh the intimacy, whatever, because that's new for me. I'm learning through a therapeutic process that I'm kind of cold in that area.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because when I get in my zone, I'm 95 to 98% of my life consists of work in motion. Yeah, so I'm sometimes I'll I'm a gift giver, I'm an acts of service type person, but the intimacy part, I lacked it. You know, and I I realized that through some some wins and losses, and I'm working on that. I'm working on it, be a uh a more caring person through my acts. But with that being said, I need you just as much. And a lot of women think that because a man got may have something going on or may have a lot going on, whatever, might be in a different position, that we don't need that. The other day, a female friend of mine just sent me a text out the blue, and I posted it. Said uh text out the blue, hey, just checking on you. You do so much for so many other people. So I'm checking your mental. How you doing? How you feel? You good? You want to you want me? I'm I'm sending a couple dollars for lunch. I thought that was the dopest shit in the world. Like all these people that I've interacted with, helped, assisted, whatever. She took the time out of her busy day to make sure I was good. Yeah, right. You know, and like I said, we might we me and her don't we haven't talked in a while, but she just made sure she just checked on me. Right. And that shit just activated something in me. I'm like, damn, it's women out here like that. Like they ain't never had that, exactly. And I did that, I could, and I so no recognizing how much that meant to me showed me that I'm I starve in that area. Now I'm not saying that I don't have female friends or anybody that check on me. I'm talking about from a place of care and the support, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that where that intimate area may exist between you and the other person. It just matters, right? And a lot of women, not all women, please. I'm not, I will never pigeonhole women. A lot of women miss that when a busy man, right? They think just because he's emotion, he don't care. Or we may be getting that from someone else. Like, if you know I'm not I'm home, if I'm not home out of a 24-hour day, if I'm not home for 20 plus hours, I'm not cooking. Right. So if you come like, listen, hey, where you at? I'm about to drop this food off to you. That shit is huge. That's huge. I know you like spaghetti. So here, I made some spaghetti, I set some aside for you, I'm about to make sure you're good. Go on with your day. One. Like that shit like that, the check-ins, the pop-ups, certain pop-ups. Not all pop-ups, but certain pop-ups, just making sure you're okay to check-ins on us, it means something. So when you meet a woman who may not have as much as you, she could do she could she could uh cooperate in other areas, participate in other areas where you may be lacking it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, precipitate in other ways.
SPEAKER_01So because the women with their own shit, shit, I didn't cook either, nigga. Like perfect.
SPEAKER_04They could go way sooner because I have my own shit. I'm I could I could actually do that. I can actually afford to go get you something to eat and bring it to you, right? I'm talking about the women, I'm talking about the women that really don't have nothing, like you don't have nothing, depending on you for everything. We'll be honest, right?
SPEAKER_00So I can just answer this like me, but not like me in the traditional me. This has always been one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever heard in my life. You've never heard a dude say, damn, man, that bitch ain't got nothing. The less she has, it just turned me on more. It doesn't make any goddamn sense. The only man that would aspire to have me that type of woman is a weak man. It doesn't matter how much money he has, it's a weak man. It's a weak man because at the end of the day, we're all striving for success in a relationship if that's what we're seeking. So, why would I want to have half the life that I could have doing everything myself when me and you can work together and have twice twice of it? It doesn't make any sense. I think honestly, I'm gonna be real. The notion that men like women with nothing came from women with something, not understanding why the man that they want that has something doesn't want them. Because the real thing is this women with something truthfully believe that having something just qualifies them and deserving of a man with something. And that's and that's a lot of what it. So instead of saying, damn, maybe I do act a certain way because because well, and this may be due to things like uh man, women happen to become alphas of households and things. So, because if you think when women take on the role of men or or anything else, when you take on an unnatural role, your only semblance of example of that role is the people that have always traditionally stood in it. Which means if their only example of an alpha is a man, they think, okay, well, if I'm thinking as a man, a man that has his own will never be womanless. Never. So they automatically think like, well, shit, I'm doing what he does, so where's my equal? Where's my my situation? So, but then they've turned it into, well, I have this and I do this, so I deserve this. And they don't realize that we don't run on the same things. Women are taught to seek stability, financial security, things like that. Men don't operate like that. We care about things like Bear said, how you make us feel. Yep. So you can have 87 fucking degrees and 28 properties. This girl can have 87 cents and an IQ of 28, but she makes him feel like gold and you make him feel like shit. He rocking with her all day. All day. Because that's what matters to me. Come on, little dummy.
SPEAKER_01Yes, because as a man, fucking love my little dummy.
SPEAKER_00If a woman doesn't have what you want her to have out of love and being a man, you're supposed to help her get to where you feel like she needs to be. That's a part of love. Elevation. So, in closing, this shit came from a woman. It didn't come from us. It came from women with shit, not being able to get the man they feel like they deserve. So they say, Oh my god, men like bitches with nothing.
SPEAKER_04I agree 100%. You know what? I would say this, right? I might I'm going against the grain right now, right? I would say shocker. Because I'm learning a lot about myself as I'm as I'm dating, and I'm learning a lot about myself. And I know that because yeah, it's shit, this shit is hard when you got your own shit. You feel me? Here we go. This is the problem. This shit hard. But I I understand, like, because I do have my own shit. I operate, I operate in my masculinity. You know what everybody has masculine and feminine energy, right? That they operate in. I operate in my masculinity naturally. So I know that I could be a little bit tougher than you know, than a woman that would submit, or I could be a little bit more uh aggressive, or I could be a little bit more condescending in a way, right? Because I know like I operate in that energy because I had to operate in that energy. But I'm trying to, that's me noticing like I I need to change those things when I'm dealing with a masculine man. If you're dealing with a man that's operating his feminine that wants to be taken care of, you can operate in your masculine, right? And oftentimes when we're dealing with a man that's operating his feminine, he will use you. He wants to stay home and play his game while you go out, and he's okay with just being nothing. And a lot of times that's what we attract. Women that operate in their masculine energy attract the feminine man that don't want to do shit. So when I finally met a man that operated in his masculine, I was like, oh shit. Okay, maybe I am a bit too masculine. Maybe I need to, you know, chill a little bit so I can maybe he doesn't have as much as me, but he's operating in that energy, and I need to take my place as a feminine, right? And maybe I'm going too deep. Let me just say it made me sit my ass down, like oh yeah, maybe I am maybe I'm a little bit uh a little bit too much. That's probably why I don't, huh?
SPEAKER_06What kind of man do you prefer? And it's masculine or in his feminine?
SPEAKER_04I I I would I a woman naturally wants to be in her feminine, so I enjoy being in my feminine, right? But then I kind of like Okay, I'm a I'm a I'm just like nigga, but I don't want you to don't think I'm a sucker either. Next question. I would jump right back in.
SPEAKER_06What do a man has to give me your short real quick? We on the elevator. What does a man have to come with for you to submit to him? Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_04We on the elevator, hurry up. It's just and it's just his energy. It's just his energy. No, what does he have? And he can't be broke.
SPEAKER_06Say it. Say it. Because that's exactly where I'm going. I knew it was coming out. What do you gotta come with?
SPEAKER_04Uh it's harder to naturally submit to a broke man. And and by by me saying, by me saying broke is not saying like he doesn't get money. You know, he has a job, but if I'm making more than you, it's harder. It's harder. I can't say it's I can't say it's impossible, it's just harder. Because as a woman, you're looking for your man to like do the things, pay for things. That's how we naturally sit in our feminine. Like, no, baby, it's okay. I got it. No, but but if you can't do that for me, now I gotta step to the plate and be like, ah, I got it. And now I gotta be the man. So when that guy, so you gotta have some type of money. I'm sorry, that's just what it is. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06I heard you that's making more than you.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06That's gonna give you. I'm not mad. I'm gonna smoke. He really's making more than you. He told you everything is good. You you shutting down for him.
SPEAKER_04I will be more inclined to. I'll be more inclined to because now you now I can actually sit and let you take care of shit. Yeah, I make it too. I can be a woman and sit and take let you take care of shit. If I gotta take care of most of the bills and all that stuff, you making me operate in my masculine, but that you still want me to cook, clean, and do all this up when I gotta take care of the bill. Like, I I can't honestly you need some bread, boy. You gotta need some money, man. You need some money. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00So, like I got energy.
SPEAKER_04You gotta have some money, man.
SPEAKER_00Like, you don't, like, and this is not really a shot at you, but I don't think you really know what masculinity is. Because everything you listed, man, for masculinity, is a negative. I can be condescending. I can be rough. That's not masculine.
SPEAKER_04No, I said I can operate in my masculine energy, right? Where which means that I can be a little bit more assertive, right? I could, I could operate as that man. Where I could be condescending to a man because I'm operating in my masculine.
SPEAKER_00This is what I'm saying. You can't do that because you're not a man. What do you mean? There's there's just like me saying, I can't operate in femininity. There's no, there's no operation. We occupy, we, we, what we do is we do these things in human energy. And all this, oh man, I can operate in my masculine, it's either in you or it's not. There is no, oh, oh, oh, well, feminine. Well, I can press this button now. I'm masculine today, then I press this one and I'm feminine tomorrow. And I know that's what I'm saying. No, I disagree.
SPEAKER_04I disagree. I disagree. But I'm gonna let you know from front, I disagree with that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's fine. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And and the thing you say, you have your own shit, but all you name is tangible things. When you refer to your own shit, all you're talking about is housing, shelter, and some money. You you're not talking about being understanding. You're not talking about being supportive. None of that. Bars. You're only talking about tangible things. That's what I'm talking about. But the thing is this, but this is where your disconnect comes with men that have their own shit. That's why I'm not gonna be able to do it. Because that man lives count you as okay, cool. That's why I asked you what a man gotta come with. You gotta count me too. I got money, me too. We're jumping you, Rocky. We're jumping you. So if that's what you're coming with and that's the flag you're flying, I'm saying somebody shit. Shit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but if you if you got your own shit, then I could op I could be a woman. I could operate myself.
SPEAKER_01What if I'm an abusive asshole with up my own shit? Huh? What if I'm gonna be able to do that?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we're jumping the shit out of you, Rocky. But I just asked you, I said, I said, I said, so when that man comes to you with more money, uh-huh. You shut down. With his own shit. With his own shit.
SPEAKER_04With his own shit. If you've come in with his own shit, I'm not gonna shut down. No, like you gotta make it. You gotta make me feel safe enough. You gotta make me feel safe enough to do that.
SPEAKER_06That's what the question was what do we have to come with?
SPEAKER_01So money makes you feel safe.
SPEAKER_04Money, not love, support. Money, I'm more inclined. I'm more inclined to be submissive. When a man, I'm more inclined, women are more inclined to be submissive if a man is taking care of the shit that we don't want to take care of.
SPEAKER_00And again, that is the problem. That's why you're not gonna be able to do that. You are trying to deal with the intangible creature with tangibles. This is literally the disconnect between you and men. You are trying to. No, no, no, don't say her and men.
SPEAKER_06Women and men.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no.
SPEAKER_06She's representing all women right now.
SPEAKER_00No, in general. But there's women out here that feel that way. But again, and this is why most of those women are single and they're not ring fingers indie. Yeah, but that's what I just did.
SPEAKER_04I just call, did I just take accountability from the jump? No, no, no. I took accountability. I said, listen, I know I naturally operate in this mask. You're not your friend right now, right? Right? I know I naturally operate this way, and I know I have to check that. I naturally operate in this masculine and I have to check that, right? But in order for me to really feel like I'm safe enough to let a man feed me, you gotta come with I just that's what I'm saying. You gotta date.
SPEAKER_00And again, you are you are trying to deal with creatures that run on intangibles with tangibles. Oh well. That's why you're saying if I gotta try 800 times, and you may end up trying 800 more times. And that's fine. Because again, because again, a man, because don't get me wrong. Nobody wants a woman that don't got shit. Uh-huh. But if what you have is the flag you're flying, and you think that because you have shit, uh huh, that that meant you don't have to be the things that matter, we'll be good on you. No, but I know I could be the shit that matters. But again, but this is what I'm telling you. I know I could be the shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the guy you're flying. It's your own shit. I can be the shit. Because that's what we're talking.
SPEAKER_04I do have my own shit. And it should, but we're talking about why do men tend to date women that don't have their own shit because you guys like that control. No, but you know what the difference is? You like that control. No, no, no. And I'm saying for you to control me, you gotta have more than me. This is the problem.
SPEAKER_00You're trying to answer both sides of the question. You gotta have more than me. You're not a man. Men are telling you exactly what it is, and still, just like the rest of y'all, and I don't want to control you, y'all relationship coaches, and the rest of the fucking empty ring finger game.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all literally will answer both sides of the question.
SPEAKER_04Why are you so mad?
SPEAKER_00No, I'm not saying it's fucking. I promise you, I'm not mad at all. I'm just saying, as an example. If I want to know something from women, or I want to know, I'm not gonna ask a like notice. When y'all make stats and say, fellas, why do y'all do this? The comments are filled with y'all. When we make, when we make those type of stats, the comments are filled with y'all because we let y'all go. Because we're reactive. If you notice, everything we do is reactive to what you're receptive to. For example, when y'all started liking my niggas with beards, every nigga that could grow three foot, grow three fucking chin hairs started growing a beard. Niggas started getting glue on beard.
SPEAKER_05Niggas see it. Niggas see it.
SPEAKER_00Niggas started getting glue on beards. I'm a line right. You ain't never seen so many niggas with beards until y'all started beard gang groups and all that. Every nigga, as I said, every nigga that could grow three fucking chin hairs, niggas is drawing their beard in, etch a sketching they fucking beard. We're reaction. So when y'all say something like something, like for example, I guarantee you, in the next nine months, sparkle jeans is gonna be gone. You wanna know why? Because women is on the internet saying, get rid of that shit. Yeah. V neck, I think I really think that goes to the V next time.
SPEAKER_06I told dudes a long time ago. The topic was I told dudes a long time ago. Like he said, we reacted. We know we know women react to money. Don't chase, don't chase the chicks, shake them, chase the money, they come with it. Plain this up.
SPEAKER_04Listen, as a woman that got I've dealt with, I've dealt with niggas that probably I I probably have more than. And I see what it does to that relationship dynamic. This shit is it's fucked. Like as a woman that has a lot, you you tend to deal with men that use you because y'all are the men that have it are dating the women that nurture and understand them and da-da-da-da-cause she don't got that much. So now we're gonna say quotes. Now we're stuck with the men that don't got it.
SPEAKER_01You know what though? Because y'all are persuasive. I don't think it's the men that don't got it that you say you gotta come with the uh the energy. I think it's probably how you talk to them and treat them. Because you displayed just let me finish. Because I'm pretty sure people tell you how I like you. I'm great. I'm saying I'm pretty sure at some point during the conversation, hey, you hungry? Yep. Could you grab me some on the way here? Rocky be like, okay, what you want, broke ass nigga? What you you you probably want cheese on that, don't you, broke ass nigga? Hey, what your broke ass did today? Did you get a did you look for a fucking job? I love you, you fucking bum. Like, god damn. I'm not saying those words literally, but it comes to a point to where that energy. I I'll give a perfect example. I like I said, I always pull from my past. When I was dating an older woman and I wasn't stable on my feet, whenever we argue to let me know I was Leslie sent, what the fuck they got to do with me, the bunch of shit they took everyone. Exactly. I'm pretty sure the conversation with, like, oh, he's blocked your shit. Doesn't want herself to look bad if a door looking at everything you do piss her off.
SPEAKER_06I had a life for you. How the fuck you got time?
SPEAKER_01How you got time to laugh, but you ain't got time to find a motherfucking job, you motherfucking bum. But you over there watching comedy for ain't nothing funny about this situation. You over there getting dressed, what you get dressed for. You are laughing. What you taking the shower for? You ain't got no job, you ain't gotta be clean. God damn. But as a man, I'm pretty sure you had that energy with you.
SPEAKER_04As a man, why would you even want to sit in that? Like, why would you even want to sit in like not being able to provide? Or why would you have to be able to do that? Like, why would you want to be things happen?
SPEAKER_00Don't look at the other side of that, right?
SPEAKER_04No, if I'm dating you, like let's say if we're dating, right? And you, you, you, everybody come equipped. We got, we both got our shit together. We we're we're a partners, right? We're partners. I'm looking for a partner. So we're partners, right? You fall on hard times, you know what? I'm definitely gonna help you out because I know, you know, I've been there with you. I know you you hold me down, I hold you down, whatever. If you you know you're you don't have the assets to be dating, just don't. Work on yourself. Or just be real about it. Work on yourself. No, I like that. I like that.
SPEAKER_00But hold on, Mo. This is the dark side that they don't work on yourself. As a man, we fully know that when, man, what we have is the reason you're dealing with us, and that makes y'all far more disposable to us. Because you're just like a time warner building. Because I don't know if this bill bucket, this hybrid is gonna go, it's gonna go away, and it's not gonna bother me. Just like I'll say this. I know plenty of women that you know live just like that. Niggas do exactly what they want to them. So, like, shit, man, I got the money. I got money, so either, so either, and not only do I have money, I have money, and it's it's the reason you're here. It's the reason why you're about me. So you know what? I'm gonna do what the fuck I want to you, because why? What you gonna do? Leave? Cool. I'll just buy another you.
SPEAKER_01So it ain't too many other me's out there. So like shit, not as much.
SPEAKER_06Somebody put a post. A woman put a woman put a post up like that. She said, Sure did. You seen it? Yep. She said, uh, a man can find another you way faster than you can. And that's a fact. That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04Nigga go, and the women have to settle, like we settle so much because we don't have no choice but to settle, right? Because there's so the pickings is fucking slim. And if you have to know how to treat the pickings better than a while, for real. Because y'all don't want to notice what you said. You can say that got what you have shit together. It's good. Because it comes with a lot.
SPEAKER_06No man on here wants to wants a woman that don't got nothing. That's not nobody said that like the woman that got it.
SPEAKER_04Do you want do you want a woman that has more than you? Would you deal with a woman that has more than you? I'm because I'm a team player. Okay, but what? Okay, so but do you know who that comes with?
SPEAKER_00That comes with what I have. Okay. That's why like like my manhood isn't rooted in what I have. So, so yeah, so example, if what my woman is doing is making more way, way man more, I may say, yo, I need to contribute my time to help her man be the best she can be at this time. Because that's what teammates do. And instead of I have this and I have this, I have and you're not even a fucking teammate.
SPEAKER_01And on the flip side, to go on what you're saying is you gotta understand something. If a man is dealing with a woman who happens not to have as much as him or nothing as we say, you gotta think about why am I leaving this I got this uh lawyer, a chick. $250,000 a year, uh pay vacations, credit excellent, blah say blah. I'm going to deal with a Chakwarda who lives around the corner, curtains, no curtains, sheets on this, that and the third. Not because she has less, but she appreciates me more. Yeah, she makes me feel like the king that I want to be. Now, for example, you eat steak all the time. Everybody, if you eat steak all the time, you'll go to different places that serve steak. You'll be like, uh, this steak is not as good as such and such. You take a chick down, baby. Oh, you mama. I gotta call you more. We are doing that male, we are doing.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but also check it, it's a shorter leash. You can't do a lot of stuff, and he established you're not you can't come out your mouth crazy. I did an energy set. I'll do another one. I gotta deal with that. You're not treating me a certain way in the dumbest fucking concepts in the world. And if yeah, and if a woman wishes I would a woman that that's not the guy you need to be with.
SPEAKER_00Well, the year, so you can talk to me a certain way. You can lead it like everybody else.
SPEAKER_04But like, but I like I said in the other operating their feminine energy, but she still has her own shit. What she really wants is you to be there too, right? We want the same shit. We want you to be supportive, we want you to be understanding, we want you to to be able to you gotta be my friend, right? Like we want that shit too. We want the validation too. You know what woman said?
SPEAKER_01Um You don't ask for much. A woman told me just be there. A woman who's who's uh independent, like a few women who are independent do their own thing. One one one of them broke down and said one of them said that I want uh him to help me without me having to ask. Oh, that's the yeah, they say want him to help me, they want and I'm and I'm like, how the fuck if you if I'm thinking you got it all under control, I don't know what the fuck you need. And some women get they get okay, it's a flip side, well not a flip side, it's two sides of the same coin. Women who have their own shit, when you help them, I've seen, don't appreciate it. Because the first thing they'll say is, Oh, I could have done it myself. I don't need I don't want I don't want to ever feel beholden to you. But then when they get fucked up or they fucked up and you don't do anything, they say, Well, I shouldn't have to ask. You should know enough to do it. Like, are you out your fucking mind? They do, but that's about lacking accountability. That's like walking to a restaurant just sitting at the table. You don't get no waiter or nothing.
SPEAKER_06Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you don't know what I want to eat? Right, exactly. I gotta tell you what I want to eat. You should know what I want to eat. I'm getting the fuck up.
SPEAKER_04Like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. It'd be the simplest things. For me, if you come get my car and get my gas filled up, if you come get my oil change for me, right? If you know, like you you drive, you bring me lunch, like we like that shit too. Like, show me that I show me that I need you. Show me that your presence in my life is needed, right? You know, my garbage comes every Thursday. You come, you just come to my house just to put my own. Some men don't quantify.
SPEAKER_01Like, if just because if you've been hand, if you if you got a house, you've been living there 10 years, I'm I'm I may not be of the thought, let me go take our garbage out. Because I'm gonna think you got that shit handled. You've been successful. I'm not saying why would you not want to do a rock because why would you want to do that? Some women I I know they got their own houses don't need me to take out their garbage. Listen, it's a lot of why your lazy ass can't take out your own garbage.
SPEAKER_06It's a lot of money.
SPEAKER_01Why do you need help?
SPEAKER_04She's been doing it good for 10 years. Not only I gotta take a woman. But you show you gotta show me why I think my life, what role would you play if you know I got my shit together?
SPEAKER_06Look at the kind of woman that's that that that is that has to be that kind of woman. If a man is coming to take your car, fill up the gas tank, coming to take the garbage out, getting the grass cut, doing all that, it gotta be the woman that's not ever, ever, ever going to say he a sucker.
SPEAKER_04And I I I can understand that.
SPEAKER_06How many of those women are out there?
SPEAKER_04I appreciate I can I can understand that. How many of those women are? It don't always start off that.
SPEAKER_06Because if she said it one time, she's gonna take advantage of that.
SPEAKER_04No, but it don't always, when a woman starts, when a woman starts belitting a man or being condescending, please believe that at one point she gave him that man could have his own. It was an even playing field at one point, right? That man could have his own complaint.
SPEAKER_06That man can have more. That man could have more than her. How many women are are going to be out there and never ever think he's a sucker?
SPEAKER_00Yo member and on top of that, man. Like you gotta look at it, man, from the aspect of this. All this shit be, well, da-da-da. This is a test. This is a test. I'ma see this. You know where them niggas is at? Them niggas is with women that's not playing games and giving tests. That's who them niggas. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04It don't be a test.
SPEAKER_00I test some tests right here.
SPEAKER_04No, she not a lot of women that a lot of women that's been doing it on their own. Not even let's let's take away all the assets and shit, right? Like, even if you live in an apartment, whatever, you want Section A, whatever.
SPEAKER_06No, but if you know a woman before you was here anyway. I don't think you do that.
SPEAKER_04If she's been doing it on her own, right? And you wanna you you're a man and you're coming into her life, take some, take some shit, take some shit, take a load off of her. That's what we do, right? Take a load. Some men don't do that shit. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, it'd be the little shit, like I'm gonna take, I'm gonna pick the kids up today, or I'm gonna take your car to get details. Or I'm gonna grocery shop. Oh, you're youngest. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and all his movement. Everybody hand, everybody hand. Uh green crew.
SPEAKER_00But complaining. Who? None. Whose kids are there? None. That means they're that means y'all ain't stepping, y'all ain't stepping up either. But you don't give away complaining. You're not stepping up either. My point is, we don't want to be.
SPEAKER_04If you don't have as much as her, if you don't have the money that she has, you could contribute in other ways. You could reciprocate in other ways by taking a load off of her. You know what I'm saying? Like doing something nice that you know she needs.
SPEAKER_06That's your fault. That's yes. That's your fault.
SPEAKER_04I mean the word settling. Because it didn't start that way, though. It don't always start that way. Men get complacent and then you start like, oh, she got it. She got it. Yeah, remember that. That's how it never starts that way. I've had men love bomb the shit out of me. Love bomb the shit out of me. Okay, made me feel like that.
SPEAKER_06And it's still it's not a green flag, hold on. And as soon as you find out that he love bombed you, you should be out.
SPEAKER_04Hold on. It's your fault. Hold on.
SPEAKER_06As soon as you find out he love bombs you gotta slap.
SPEAKER_04She romanticizes that bullshit. Love bombers, love bombers go through their stuff where they they they're good, then they take a step back, then they're good again, and they take a step back. It's a game, it's a whole manipulative game, right? But my point is, it doesn't always your man is not gonna show you he ain't shit from the beginning. Like that should gradually happen. Gradually happen. As soon as you get rid of, and then you get rid of them. Yes. I agree. But the thing is this we agree. She the biggest. Why would you date a man that because they don't start off that way, baby? But y'all never start off that way. Especially if you're dealing with a woman of a certain caliber, you're not gonna show me you a bum from the beginning. You're gonna you putting your best fucking foot forward. You asking your homeboy for money. You putting that best foot forward. And then wait a minute for money, too.
SPEAKER_01I'm just saying, spin on you about that shit happened. Yeah, you got to be. That was two bows your nigga when whoever float. Fellas, whoever did it. Whoever buy money from the homeboy, the tree Rocky, listen, she just called you out. You are the GOAT. Yes, yeah. You actually the goat. That's crazy. Fuck JZ. You need you ain't borrow money to fix your credit. You got a goat. You ain't borrowed money for the car, you borrow money to trick a rock to get a rock. That's it.
SPEAKER_06She knows you borrowed money and she probably let you hit it again. No. Crazy. After that.
SPEAKER_01She found out. She knows. You know what it came from? You know what it came from? That shit was too particular. I'm gonna tell you the moment.
SPEAKER_04You know what the shady part about this is? That's easy work. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00The shady part is though? The shady part is she only found out that he borrowed money because his shady ass homeboy told her.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you like them flowers at work last Thursday? Yeah, for nigga bearing.
SPEAKER_05Your boy ain't give me my money back yet. You deserve that bum ass.
SPEAKER_01You deserve that. Niggas ain't shit. How about that switched up back then? Baddies give you my money back. You get duped all the time.
SPEAKER_04Baddies, a successful woman get duped all the time. Because men because men put men put their best for the forward. And then when they get complacent, then you like, oh.
SPEAKER_00And you sting men is uh see the member, this is what y'all don't get. Those men are well aware that they're gonna turn into a pumpkin at 12 o'clock. They know they're not gonna turn into a pumpkin. You don't know. You think should I get me about three, four servings of pussy by the time I get kicked out of the kitchen? Then I'm good. So now by the time you find out your friend, all you gonna do, man, is call me a bum. And I and all I'm gonna say is you'll fuck the though. You wanna say that when you screaming?
SPEAKER_06You just break it down and it's because the women go for the dudes that's gonna pull the knot out instead of the dudes that's just swiping his cop.
SPEAKER_00Oh man. That's why they go for that.
SPEAKER_04I like it. I like that. Pull that nigga a lot.
SPEAKER_06You pull that knot out.
SPEAKER_04I'm a hoodie rag. I love seeing when they pull that thing out and then. That's why you ask on this podcast now.
SPEAKER_01Tell me how these niggas do you filthy. That's exactly what you ask on this podcast now. Talk about how these niggas do you filter. Because you watching the nigga pocket instead of watching this fucking heart. You think it motherfucker, you know exactly what you're doing, and you get what you deserve. Watch this nigga pull out a knot. Fuck out. He better take this citizen car and shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_04That deal costs 200, he probably got 250. I need to be able to see.
SPEAKER_01Oh shit. He got he got his shit. What do you got?
SPEAKER_00925 of it is his homeboy that you're holding for.
SPEAKER_05I pull it out.
SPEAKER_03The struggle is real for a bitch that got her shit together. I'm gonna just say that. I feel you do it right. You intimidate niggas. The struggle is real.
SPEAKER_06We gotta get at you again. Sorry. We gotta double the shit up. What is going on? Didn't you post it? Didn't you put the post up about you had some Yans on your bucket list? Yes, she's the Yans.
SPEAKER_04The Yans come in with that.
SPEAKER_06We got a few minutes. We got a few minutes, and I'm just gonna trickle it to the next episode. Kick the topic off.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so I made a post. Well, actually, this this people don't know it actually stemmed from uh a situation that happened between an older woman and a younger guy. The guy was started dating a younger girl, but he had an older woman as a side chick. So it became, it was just this battle between old old old women and younger women. Oh, that's not bucket. And then I just made a stat that was like, you know what? As an old bitch, you know, I got a couple YNs, you know, that I could, that's on my bucket list. And it went crazy. Because then now women are just saying, like, yeah, I got some too, right? So now the older men are like, Oh, y'all washed up, da-da-da-da-da. You know, it was a bunch of like, oh, you a pedophile. I got called a pedophile, um, all types of stuff. They people was taking it way too far. But um it was just it was just me just, but that's the thing now though. Like, the the the young men that's really a thing are coming, like they're they come on strong with older women.
SPEAKER_06So y'all don't really want the man that got his shit together.
SPEAKER_04No, but this some of them do. It's the same way with young women, like the young bitches, they got some of them got the motion, they got their shit together more than uh more than other bitches. It's just that they they more willing to spend, you know, older men be more responsible. Like, I gotta pay my bills. When the YNs is like, man, what you need? You know what I'm saying? They sleep on they sleeping on them the futon. They probably deadbeats, you know what I'm saying? So you get all the money. But no, it's it's it's some real shit. Like Yans got more time, they got more money because they have less responsibilities, right? And so it's more fun for us because when when women hit a certain age, we're our what is it, libido or whatever? Kind of like we're we're more, we're more, we're more sexually. We want more, we're more sensual, we we're more horny, you know what I'm saying? Very menopause. And then, but and we want younger men have the stem, and it's just a lot of little things that happen to us biologically too that we appreciate the younger men.
SPEAKER_01But again, what what happened? I said, he said, he said, well, you said the menopause probably like you said, you get more horny towards later nation. I say a comet shines at its brightest just before it burns out. That shit's crazy. That's it. You dry it up. That dry it up. He's like, listen, I'm taking whatever, wherever, however, let's get it. Blah shit. Shut the hair. The clock ticket. That clock, that shit.
SPEAKER_06The comet shines its brightest.
SPEAKER_04No, but you can have fun, you know. The Y-Ns, you can I'm gonna say this. The Yans, you can have more fun. They they're willing to go, you know, go have a good time. And sometimes what you're just looking for, a good time. And then the older men is like, you know, I got my kids today. I gotta pay my bills, I gotta, you know, it's like by the time I by the time you're looking to have a good time, he ain't got no money for you. So it's like, it's just it's just a different experience. But that's what we like. At a certain point in our life, when we go into our midlife crisis.
SPEAKER_00So now as our midlife crisis. So now, so now to the man that's your age that has the money requirement or whatever's going on.
SPEAKER_04The man that's my age?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That that that that's in your age range, like your actual age range. Why would he make that commitment and he sees you with a nigga that's his little brother age, and you just having fun, and you come like, oh, oh, dude, I want to marry you. No, you don't. You need to go marry that little.
SPEAKER_01I just saw you in the Bahamas on the back of a jet ski.
SPEAKER_00Wow. No, no, no. No, my boo say this though. Niggas shouldn't be mad though. That's the as part. Like, man, not for nothing, bro. It is too many women on the earth for you to be mad that a woman doesn't like who you are or what you have to offer. That's true. You don't like Nick's hurry? Cool. Why are you mad? Find someone. Find somebody. Like, you're like, that's one thing that always like keeps me even about it. If a woman ain't knowing what I'm on, another woman is. It's a fact. So I'm not gonna be mad and cut you out or do no.
SPEAKER_04I can't start over 8,000 times, but it's okay for it. This is a very sexy show.
SPEAKER_06We're not the ones complaining. Okay, we're not the ones complaining.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we're not. Like, there's no crisis for us. Listen, hang on a second. And I'm gonna summ it up what we're saying, Rock, and y'all correct me if I'm wrong. Like I said, I I touched on it when I was talking earlier, and this is uh I don't like this is not being sarcastic, this is not being chauvinistic, it's just a real ass thing. Women outnumber us 20 to 30 to 1. So when you understand when you got some men out there who understand that and they they become less less agitated with your actions, they understand, okay, I don't care. Because tomorrow's Tuesday, tomorrow's Monday, and Monday I'm gonna have 10 or 15 Rockies. No, no, I don't want to have 10 or 15. No, no, no, I'm saying, but no, the Locke. No, no, here's a rocky. When I say when I say Rockies, I'm saying I'm talking about, I'm talking about general. Like I said, I you you want to go out have fun with the Y's peace. But you know, and the thing because it is 11 statistically, it's 11 to 19 more of you than there is in me. Yeah, so I don't have to do that the struggle. That's why we're not coming. I'm God, I hate saying it like this, but that's why we're not complaining. Because we understand the the metrics. So you when you when you y'all go on these platforms, these podcasts, and make these stats and all that stuff, and we respond. You know who responding? The tender niggas. Yeah, the ones that that your typed words, like Jiggly said in his freestyle, you niggas using your thumbs on it, they hurt by and bothered by it. But the ones that understand, I'm I could give a fuck less. Work out, do your thing. Because in that in your in your in your group, your female group, there's two or three of them that want that want that experience with that dude versus that you don't. Now, if I'm if I if we've had some dealings before and I generally like you and we got rapport and I'm emotionally involved, yeah, that might bother me. But nine times out of ten, if it's just somebody I like, I like and it's random and you feel a certain kind of way, so pretty much.
SPEAKER_00Like, like, like when we're doing raw numbers, we about even men to women, but see, like, example, like our pool is way different. Like, example, y'all's pool gets drained by shit that don't even got nothing to do with money. Like, for example, it's way less women in jail than us. So that'll take away from y'all pool. There's women in jail. Men get killed way more than y'all do. So that'll take away from y'all. We die earlier. And then another thing, like not even being funny. If y'all go gay, that'll take y'all out of our pool. Show yours. Like, if you came up today and you was like, oh, oh man, I got a girlfriend. If I want you, I'm gonna still try you. Because I'm gonna bully because that don't take you out of our pool. That might increase your value. That might increase your value.
SPEAKER_06Smart.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you you gotta see right. You see what I'm saying? So all these things then take out your pool, so it's like, look, like, like, look, like so.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06And we're gonna shut it down there and set the sun after this. Yeah. So basically, what we're trying to say is to quote to go, men lie, women lie, numbers for us, men don't. Shut up. We are not.
SPEAKER_03Okay, to sum it up, ladies, if you ain't find your man yet, you probably ain't born yet. You feel me?
SPEAKER_05Numbers for us.
SPEAKER_01Block out, baby.
SPEAKER_00Yo, we need saxophones. Go get that sound effect, bro. Sum it up.
SPEAKER_01Like I said, and it's not, and like I said, shout out to the ladies out there that's doing their thing, handling. Keep doing it. Yeah, like we're not taking away that. We're gonna do that. Don't please don't take yeah, don't please. Like I said, what they say, the number one growing class uh uh in the America is young independent black women. Like, keep doing that shit. Not young, just independent black women, entrepreneurs, keep doing y'all thing, man.
SPEAKER_04But just know the more successful you become, the harder it is for you to date.
SPEAKER_06That's a that's oh damn. You can keep on anyways.
SPEAKER_04I don't know, just understand that women, okay? The more degrees you got, the harder it is gonna be for you to be for you to find that one. Um, because they're busy chasing Shanequa on section eight. Um chasing my own.
SPEAKER_01Would you rather pay a $2,000 mortgage or a $12 rent? That's doing numbers.
SPEAKER_05So Shanik was on section eight.
SPEAKER_00Shanik was on section eight, but she's in Shanika's side room and with her little brother. Right. Right, right. Right, right. But her little brother.
SPEAKER_04Anyways. All right, y'all. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Everything Under the Sun podcast. My boy Bear Brown, B. Gibson, Mo Jackson, your girl Rocky B, and now the sun is set. Peace.
SPEAKER_03Hey, y'all.