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Episode 25: Hearing God's Voice Above the Noise

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If you're awake enough to check social media first thing in the morning, you're awake enough to read God's word. What if the solution to hearing God isn't turning Him up louder, but turning everything else down? In a world full of noise, one divine command still echoes: Listen to Him. Are you ready to discover what voices are drowning out God in your life?

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome to Build, a podcast from Danville First Baptist Church. Build is where Sunday's message becomes Monday's conversation. Each episode we dig deeper into what God is teaching us, talk about how it shows up in real life, and help you keep building your faith beyond the weekend. Let's get started. Welcome to Build, the podcast of FEC Danville, where we aim to build on Sunday's sermon, but ultimately build on our relationship with Christ. And we are uh excited today. We've got Daniel back in the studio. It's not just his face on a screen.

SPEAKER_05

Not Robo Dan.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Literally the worst part of them. Right out the gate. Right. Let's get it started.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back.

SPEAKER_00

But we are it's he was back preaching this Sunday, so that was exciting. And uh he was back in Mark. And so we'll spend I know uh several weeks there, but it's always good. I've I've enjoyed all of these series. You start talking about how far back that went, and it doesn't seem like it it's been happening for that long. Yeah, May of 23. That's kind of crazy. But I mean, I guess it just keeps on keeps on going. You can just pick things like that back up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, Mark being the book where everything moves fast.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's not the book of Daniel. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Says this guy. That's rich. All right. We're back for real.

SPEAKER_00

He's he's alluding to the fact that it's been a month since Daniel's preached. He had a lot to say. And it was senior Sunday, so we had extra things going on. So we might have gone over a little bit even more than we were.

SPEAKER_02

What is over?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00

Like I wasn't, I guarantee you I wasn't sitting there thinking, good grief, will this ever get over?

SPEAKER_05

Um dusty preaches. I'm just kidding. I've never thought that dust. I've never thought that I couldn't I had to take that shot. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

It's expected.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, all right. So, yeah, we were in Mark 9, and that that was what where we had left off. Um, and it's a great telling of this account of the transfiguration. And still one of my favorite things. And and you'll you talked about Peter being up there, and of course you brought out a probably a better I I I hear Peter differently. And um you were saying that he's like he just wanted to sit in that moment. He that probably was what I hear him like, uh it's good that we were here to do this thing.

SPEAKER_05

I think you actually portrayed it that way when you're in a play. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

That's kind of the way you did it. So that was your interpretation. So, you know, that's but it all fits. It all it's all good. We we don't know. We don't know what they what they meant all the time. So we infer things. But I'll let you uh kind of pick up and explain whatever you want to.

SPEAKER_05

You bet. Yeah, we're mark nine, uh verses one through thirteen, the the account of what we call and title the transfiguration, where Jesus uh temporarily unveils his godly, heavenly glory that has been hidden by flesh. And Peter, James, and John are the three that get to be there and and witness this. And it is a rich 13 verses, and one of those where what I had the basis of like breaking down verse by verse early on for this message, but then it was like, all right, like what's gonna be like the point? What's the point, Lord? Like, what do you want us to get out of it this time? Because you could go so many different places with so many different things and spend so much time in so many different areas of these 13 verses. I just prayed about it. I kept looking at it, kept and I was like, it's it's the listen part, like right in the middle of it. God the Father, you know, envelops the the mountain with the cloud, you know, the Shekinah glory, as he's done with Moses all the way through. Like his the physical cloud shows up representing the physical presence of God. And of all the things he could have said. I mean, he could have said so many things. He says, This is my beloved son, listen to him. And that just hit me more than it's ever hit me before. Um, but and maybe, maybe as often it's because of you know, things that I'm going through in my life and things that I'm uh noticing in myself and things that I'm working on, and I say working on, the things the Lord's sanctifying me about, um, and and the voices I'm listening to and the things I'm spending time on, and those types of things, and it just hit me like, man, and and up until this point, the most powerful point of Mark's gospel, this is the most powerful point that has happened so far. And the one thing God says, besides this is my beloved son, repeats himself from his baptism, listen to him. And I just thought, you know, I think we'll just camp out there and see what see what the Lord has for that. And so we talked about on a practical note, we want to listen to him first, we want to listen to him loudest, we want to listen to him most often. And when we do those things, he'll speak. And when he speaks, we want to do. We want to do what he says. We don't want to just talk about it, we want to be about it. We want to do the things that he's calling us to do. And when I say that, uh, and then we prayed about it again tonight on Wednesday night. When I say that, I don't mean do more things in the church.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's not what I mean.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And often that's what how it gets interpreted. Oh, you know, like you're if you're not teaching a class and on seven committees and coming to the meetings and coming to every service and always at Sunday school and always at like I want your yes, your presence is good. It's a good thing, but I'm not talking about doing more. I'm talking about when God says, go talk to her, you go talk to her. I'm talking about when God says, Leave this job and go do this. I'm talking about when God says, I really think you could do this, you know, para-church ministry and lays it on your heart. Like you do it because you trust him. That's what I'm talking about. Do it. Like when he lays those things on our heart, do it. You know, get write a check for her right now for this much. And we do it because we're listening and sensitive to the Spirit. And we know that he is good and trustworthy, and we want to, we want to honor and please him with our lives and not man. That's my ultimate as a as a follower of Jesus, that's my ultimate desire for myself. And as a pastor, that is the ultimate desire for the church that I pastor, that we are a people that listen to Jesus, are sensitive to the Spirit's promptings, that we care about each other. And when God says this, we just do it. And no matter what our logic says about it. And so that was um, you know, that was the 46 minute and 30 second um uh message. Uh a minute and a half of that was thanking you guys for all you've done while I was out. That's true. So it's really only 45 minutes, um, which is eight minutes and 30 seconds less than the longest message Dusty has preached this year. So there's that. Um actually, that's only the longest message I've preached here this year. That's true. Here, yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Brother Clayton and them got both barrels locked, stock and barrel. First time they've ever invited me to mod. So I mean if they don't invite me back, I had to say it all the first trip.

SPEAKER_05

Y'all may not invite me again, so I'm gonna preach four messages for y'all today. Uh anyway, so that's where we were, and and um I've really enjoyed Mark too. Uh I was talking with Lauren about it um last week. We were just talking, and um I'll be here's here's here's the transparent thing, okay? I I know a friend who's a friend of all of ours that at his first church preached through Luke, and it took him five years. And I thought, okay, I want to, I want to choose a gospel, I want to choose a book and go verse by verse on Sunday mornings to it. Now we we go away from it, we come back to it, you know, as as we need to, and those types of things, but I thought, good grief. I mean, five years, that's a long time. Well, Mark's the shortest gospel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So I'll go with that. That's how spiritual that was. I prayed about it and I thought, okay, we'll go with that. Mark's the shortest one. It won't take me five years at least. Yeah. Um, and you know, and now it's been three years, yeah, and we're we're over halfway. Yeah. So uh we're on the way to Jerusalem. So, but I I I have it has become, I think, my favorite gospel.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And that wouldn't, I would not have said that prior to because I love Luke's detail, I love Matthew's connection um to the old testament. I love John.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I love John. Who how can you not love John? But man, and maybe that's why the Lord, in my own stupidity, impressed it upon my heart personally. Is it I've really elevated the beauty of Mark. I've gone from Constantine used to view uh Mark as the like mini Matthew. Um, and I've gone from kind of having that mindset of like, oh, you know, it's a little short gospel, it's okay, to like, no, man, like the sh the brevity is the beauty of it. Because the if he does expand on something, you better pay attention. Yeah. And if he's this brief, then everything and everything every book says is for a reason. Don't get me wrong. But like I I'm a word nerd anyway. I love that type of stuff. And so it's it's I've just sat there and I thought, well, why did he say that that way? Yeah, and I've really thought about it, and it's been a great challenge for me. I've really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02

So sense of urgency in Mark.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, Uthaos.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah immediately. Immediately. Straight away.

SPEAKER_05

I've listened. Wow, wow. Got one thing. Dog feeling good, man.

SPEAKER_02

I'm ugly, but he I he has learned one thing. You know. Anyway, it was it was really good, Daniel. It was uh it was a really good word. Uh a couple things that have just resonated with me um since Sunday. Um over the last year or so, the the vibration of my phone in my pocket has begun to literally drive me insane. Like I can't put into words the amount of times that my heart sinks when my phone vibrates. And and I say that to say like at the beginning of the message, you really talked about like uh how inundated we are with noise and with constant a barrage of information. It's just always one thing after another, after another, after another. And honestly, it may be one of the greatest um obstacles that we have at reaching young people today with being plugged into God's word and into the people around us the way that we're supposed to be, is this tool that's supposed to be for our advantage? Is I I think at times it's it's killing us. I think um and and I don't know the solution. I have to answer the phone. I mean, there's stuff going on, right? I have to do, but and so that's just stuck with me. Like, hey, are you so distracted by the the good responsibilities in your life? And I'll be honest, sometimes when that phone vibrates, and then I'm like, oh and I look at it and it's it's nothing. It's literally like you know, an ad to try to get me to buy something that I don't need. And I'm like, oh whatever, that wasn't a big deal. But this thing that's supposed to make our life better is it distracting us so far from the people around us and the mission God's given us that we can't focus long enough to do what God's really called us to do. And it's just been I've I've been dealing with that for a while, but to have you put it into words, like that's it. That's what I've been talking about. Like I literally, and uh not to make light of this word at all, I don't know how to describe it like it's like how I feel like PTSD is for for people. Like it's something that triggers something in me that's a a reaction that I have no control over that may or may not even be uh legitimate, but to me there's a visceral reaction to just that feeling that you had enough events that it that are not good, yeah. Oh or or just unpleasant, right? You know, frustrating. So, like how can I elevate God's voice into the one that uh pulls my attention more times than all of the other voices in my life that are driving me literally baddie? Um and I just think that was a uh I really appreciated you just bring that in. And I think you know, uh when Jesus says, and you brought this out too, you know, when God says listen to him, the word listen, we understand this, but we don't is to listen is to obey. Listen, listen to me, listen. I heard you listen to you. You heard me, but you ain't listening. Right. We we say it that way in English, right? Right. To listen, when God said, This is my beloved son, listen to him. It wasn't just hey, he's fixed to say something cool, y'all need to catch this. It was follow him, obey him, do what he's telling you to do. And it's such a a little thing, but at the same time, it was something for me. It's like, oh man, I've I've not really pieced it together quite like that. Um and then, you know, I have a lot of stuff I could talk about. I have I have a lot of notes here, and I've got some questions for you later for you to clean up. But another thing that I really thought was really, really impactful for me that I just keep going back to throughout the week is that the transfiguration was not Jesus putting on glory for that moment, but it was revealing the glory he already had. I I've never thought I I've always pictured it as okay, this was basically God wrapping him in glory for that moment, and that's really cool. Right, yeah, it's cool in it. But it's way cooler that no, it's he's unveiling the eyes of those who are there to not just see the physical, but to see who he is spiritually and who he is in his heavenly realm.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, oh, that'll get a brother fired up. I don't care how Baptist you are, you might start jumping around and getting excited. That's right. And uh I was I was that got me fired up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that same same moment. Also, I was like, Well, I've never pieced that together. Maybe I'm dumb. That I hope not that the why Moses and Elijah were there. Like that wasn't just like these were two cool dudes from the the old testament. Like that it was showing yes, Jesus is the embodiment of the law and the prophets, and they're here saying, Okay, we're done. Yep, it's him now.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, yeah. That that was good too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's such a cool, it's such an unbelievably awesome, and we overuse that word, but like moment, like just to, you know, like slow down when you read scripture and try to picture it, think about it. That's why you know we talked about I tried to give like an American example, uh, uh, you know, a church celebrity example. Like slow down and try to put this into your thinking. Like this would be like so I I was gonna do a sport example too, but I I was already at 46 minutes, you know.

SPEAKER_00

So we were getting the point. It's like we were getting the way real quick, I'm not wanting to divert from what we're talking about, but you said we overused the word awesome, and I think that you're 100% right in that. And that was brought up to me oh some while back, and I've made this conscious effort to the point now it's become that I will only use that word if I'm referring to something holy. Oh, that's good. Like because it was described. Yeah, like so you know, here's the challenge. But his words matter. You know that it he is awe-inspiring, he's the only thing that's awesome. So that's good. Carry on.

SPEAKER_02

I already can't use Devo. I can't use that. You're changing my vocabulary, bro, and I don't like it.

SPEAKER_05

I still say Devo. I I don't just say it to drive Josh crazy. It just it fits for me, and I like it.

SPEAKER_00

But I'll say I notice every time you say devotional. I try, bro. I feel that. I try.

SPEAKER_05

That's love language. That's right. That's right. That's good. Man, let's get into questions, Dust. You got questions? Let's get into it. I'm I may or may not have an answer, but let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so this may be a stretch, but you know, I like I like to stretch. I like to look for those things that maybe are a stretch, and we may not have an answer on this side of heaven. But I found it interesting. Peter, James, and John are the three that got to witness it. That's his inner circle. And so there's a lot of dynamics there. But I also think the fact they've seen his glory, and then the women show up after the resurrection and they say, Jesus isn't dead. Like we've been there, he's alive, and we saw him. And Peter and John say, let's go. And they and they run. And John runs faster, as he pointed out. And you know, but I I just can't help but wonder if their sprint to the tomb was fueled by the fact that if I've already seen God's glory, while everyone else says that don't make sense. People don't come back from the dead. And if they do, it's because Jesus brought them back and he's the one that's gone. Right. So like I don't know what to do with this information. And they say, well, I don't know what to do with this information either, but I've seen God's glory in Jesus. Yeah. I just wonder if that fueled that.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think that's that far of a stretch, to be honest. Now, obviously, we don't have sure chapter and verse scriptural example of that, but I do not think that would be that would be, you know, way outside of bounds at all. I love that picture, actually.

SPEAKER_00

I love that. That's awesome. Makes total sense. Why why were they the only two that were like, oh, and just bounced out. Right.

SPEAKER_05

Cause they because you know, Jesus did look different when he resurrected. Right. Um, and so and they did describe it a little bit of what it looked like. And maybe there was something said where they were like, dude, that's it. We've seen this. We know what that looks like. Yeah. Like that could it possibly be, you know? Um, and maybe they had kind of, you know, we're quick to forget. Sure. You know, that's kind of I'm kind of getting ahead of myself for this week's message, but we we're quick to forget. Like it's it's not out of the realm that they kind of forgot about that moment, especially in the Passion Week and all that goes through on there. You know what I mean? But that maybe that moment was like, oh yeah. You meant you member. Yeah. And that's pretty cool to think about, really.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's one point for Dusty. Yes. Good job. All right. It's only what? It's April, so I'm ahead of schedule. Yeah. So uh and then uh so when Jesus, when they when they began to ask Jesus questions, and they were like, hey, isn't it isn't Elijah supposed to come? And he he basically says, like, Elijah did come, you knuckleheads. Like, y'all ain't paying attention. I didn't mean Elijah, Elijah, even though y'all did just see Elijah. But like John the Baptist was do he was coming in the power of the prophets. That but it made me wonder, it's easy to pick on those guys and say, well, what do you mean? Like, how did they not see this? Is Jesus frustrated with them? What is the context here? But it just made me think while you're preaching, it's like, man, do how often do I miss the hand of God because it looks different than I anticipated? And if it looks different, then it can't be fulfillment of God's promise because I have that figured out what that looks like. Like, I don't know, are are there other examples you guys can think of in your lives or whatever? Or like, am I the only one that this is the thing? Like, I look back sometime later and I say, Okay, God, I see it now, but I didn't see it then because it didn't look what other good things am I missing right now? And I'm holding on to this promise from God, uh, but I'm missing that it's already being fulfilled. It just looks different than what I than what I thought. I I thought that was something that I just couldn't help but ponder while you were preaching. It's like, man, what blessings right now am I missing out on? Because I'm waiting for this thing to set it off. And in reality, it's already set off. It may already be done. And I'm still waiting for it because it doesn't look like what I thought. Right. And how often do we cheat ourselves out of seeing God move because we're looking for it to be in our terms?

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_05

I think more often than we could possibly talk about in an hour. Yeah. Uh, you know, I'm uh on the spot, not coming up with a great example right, you know, personally, but I I 100% agree with that. I I think I know I do that. I know I do that. Yeah. So I can that's all I can ever speak to, is what I what I I I can't say what I think, well no, I can say what I think other people do, but I don't know. But I know I do that. And it's so easy to do that. Something as simple as um, and this was a silly TikTok I saw a month or two ago that was like, because this is something I struggle with, you know, is getting aggravated behind behind the wheel. And uh how stupid that is. Like it's so stupid. It's such a waste of time and energy to get to get mad about things when you're driving. Like it doesn't change anything. And the person said, uh, instead of doing that, why don't like reframe it? Like, I bet they're on the way to the hospital, you know, or I bet, I bet, you know, they're they they probably had a bad day and, you know, or I they probably just couldn't see me. You know, that's why they cut me off. They probably just probably just couldn't see me, you know. And even to something as simple as that type of reframing completely changes things. Now put that in a spiritual context, you know, we we're we're we're often looking for looking for the blessing here, or we're we're wanting God to move there or this way, and he's moving right in front of our face, and we're and we're missing it. I I I completely agree with that, Dust.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think about a time like we were going on a mission trip, I think, to North Dakota. And so it's a really long drive from Arkansas to North Dakota, if you're not real familiar with geography, which I'm not, but that's a long ways. And we didn't make it. Uh this is when I was going to church at Branch, and uh we didn't make it through Charleston. So we're talking literally 10 minutes down the road, and we had a blowout on the van and something else happened. And I can remember, and at that time I'm probably a teenager, I'm probably 17, 18, 19 years old, and I remember, are you kidding me? We gotta drive hundreds of miles and hours and hours, and we can't even make it past Charleston, you know, 10 minutes down the road. And and I remember later, like we had two disruptions, and then probably two hours later, like we narrowly missed being in an accident. We had a certified nurse in our group who was able to go tend to some victims, some some people that were injured. And I can I can remember almost being frustrated because people are like, you know, maybe that's why we got maybe that's why we had cartoon. And I'm like, I've been frustrated for two hours about we haven't made it out of Charleston, you know, and and but like again, reframing that frame of mind of even the interruptions in our life, they don't have to be just interruptions, yes. If we'll look sometimes, sometimes bad things happen because bad things happen, yeah. But sometimes it might be to put you in the right place at the right time to minister someone that you would never be able to minister to otherwise. And I just think um I think sometimes that's it. We're looking for this certain thing, and and and we've talked before, you know, and I'll give a shout out to Brett Passmore because he really put some things in my mind about the end times that like I think so many people get divided and amped up about end time stuff. And the reality is that it's probably gonna be like this. We're looking for Elijah. And Jesus would say, like, bro, it's already happened. Like you you just don't, it's not that you're not looking, it's not that you're not dedicated, it's not that you don't care, it's that you don't understand. Yeah, and why would we let that divide us at this table right now over something that we're probably all wrong about some part of what the end times looks like or what eternity looks like because we haven't experienced it yet, we don't know, right?

SPEAKER_05

And uh well, you know, it it can sound kind of new agey, you know, like, oh, I just need to change my mindset. Like, no, that's scriptural. Yeah, that's what Paul says to do your mind. Renew your tran the transforming of your mind. I mean, that is the thing, right? With the Holy Spirit in us, we are to be transformed new by the renewing of our mind. The the the the the crux of that is when you think different, your life is different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

When you think different, you live different, you see different, you speak different. Uh and it so it makes all the difference in the world, which is it takes us right back to listen to him. Right. Let his words be what is the foundation of our mindset and our heart set and our and our soul and and who we are, that we listen to him and let that be our guiding principle and our and the the beacon or the or the or the the the the speaker that's calling out to to us on a daily basis, like his word is what as opposed to what we uh let influence us all all the time with our choices and what we you know take what we take in. So um no, I I'm with you on that.

SPEAKER_00

And I think some of the times we'll never know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00

Like those, you know, like you say, why did this happen so that we were here? I think probably yes. Possibly that sometimes these things happen and slow you down and you don't know what you you missed because you because you were stopped or slowed down or held up. So I think you know, we again changing your mind, it's frustrating sometimes when there's when there is an accident up ahead and you have to divert and go around. It takes you an extra 30 minutes. That happened on a trip here recently. I don't know, you know, there but I live in with it that had to be for a reason. And it's okay. Some other whole lot of stuff happened on that trip that I look back like, I don't know why that happened. But it happened as good as it could have.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I I'm just I'm not good at it. I'm not good at it. Like I okay, so so uh I don't know what this this episode's going totally different than most episodes. So if this you only want and you hate it, come back. If you love it, come back and maybe we'll be good again. Um but like I'm not good at this area. I don't like plans. Okay, so you guys know me, so you know people don't don't. I hate plans. And I mostly hate plans because if there is no plan, I don't care what we do or how we do it or when it happens or any of that stuff. I don't care. There's no plan. It'll happen or it won't. If there's a plan, I expect the plan to be executed. And when you come back, we've made a plan, and then 10 minutes later you're like, hey, let's go ahead and pull over here. This is a cool looking store. Let's go. Like, no, like I don't think you understand. We we had a plan. If we didn't have a plan, we could pull over there and I wouldn't care. But we have a plan. And I think I get that way with God. You know, well, God, I this is what I feel like you've led me to. I you feel like I feel like this is like we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this. I've got a plan, I got a vision, I gotta, and then God says, hey, slow down and just look to your right instead of looking straight ahead. Just look and see the need right there, and see the need right there. And I sneak at it. But like I feel like in certain situations, I'm good at seeing the stuff going around me because I'm free and there's no pressure, there's no plan, there's no I got nothing else to do but be present with you guys.

SPEAKER_05

All right. So let's let's fix dusty. This episode is fixing dusty. Okay. Uh uh no. But so going with what we just said, reframing our mind, re-changing our thinking. We talked about this a month or so ago, that the point of having the plan is because it never goes to plan.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But when you have a plan, you're able to effectively deviate from the plan because you have a plan. So maybe there, maybe you could just re- I say you, maybe we, because I struggle with similar things, could just reframe like the point of the plan is so that I know when we're deviating from the plan in an orderly fashion, because we're going to deviate from the plan. Because there's no way you make a plan and it execute you execute it 100%. Like we know that as coaches, like it never actually happened. Like one time that happened. Wow. How it worked. Beardon 2010 semifinals. Yeah. Like executed it to perfection. Yeah. The first two drives.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean? But like it, you know, so the you know, I don't know, maybe that's part of it. But yeah, I'm I I'm not great at that either, Dusty. I'm not. Especially when it comes to this brokenness inside of me that that every opportunity to travel is an opportunity to compete. Like, you know, like I don't I I need to break that mindset, you know. And I even some days I I do better, like, hey, this is an opportunity for us to spend 30 more minutes together where we wouldn't have gotten it beforehand, you know. And guess what? I feel so much better when I think that way. Um, but yeah, we're we're deviating a little bit, but that's okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I just I think that this is an instance where sometimes they they're asking the wrong question because they just got no, they got it. Peter's really good at asking the wrong question. You know, he at least he asked it. Yeah, that's right. But I just feel like I feel like there's a lot of things in my life that I think I understand only to find out later. I had no clue. I missed it. Right. Because it didn't look the way I thought it was gonna.

SPEAKER_05

That's good.

SPEAKER_00

I'm with that. Yeah. Um, so something you did say about the listen to him also was important because it fulfilled a prophecy. I I anytime you can match make those both those things out, I think that's cool.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_00

That like because everybody all those that are skeptics want all the proof. Right. And there's historical, you could this is this over here is historical, this is historical, and we can tie them together.

SPEAKER_05

So yeah, Moses, Moses uh says in Deuteronomy, which Deuteronomy is like Moses' this is a little bit of an understatement, but it's like Moses' love letter to Israel. Like, I'm out of here. I I don't I don't I don't get to go into the promised land. Um but you know, here's the things that you gotta know, and here's the things you gotta do, and here's the things you need to remember. And in Deuteronomy 18, 15, he says, There will be a prophet that comes after me that is greater than me. Listen to him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Uh and you can't you can't hear those two things and not and not and not see that. Um I think once you see that, you can't say anything, but that's that that tracks. Yep. And the fact that Moses was just there right before he says that, or right as he's saying that, is is is even more on the nose. So yeah. I d I'm the same way, Josh. I love those links like that. And and and scripture is the first uh hyperlinked material in the world prior to the internet where everything was linked to this, to that, to this, this, to that. Scripture already does it. I'm sure people have seen that picture of where you know scriptures over and those lines are going back and forth of all the different, you know, like no man could ever come up with that. Like, no, no man could come up with that. Yeah, especially not 40 different authors, authors on three different continents with three different languages over 1500 years, definitely couldn't come up with that. It it's just pretty it speaks to its divinity.

SPEAKER_00

A couple years ago when we were at at Camp Salome, one of the counselors turned uh she was she was the like staying with our ladies, and she turned them on to I can't I can't remember the name of it, like but like the Jesus Bible. Um it has had something like that, and you're like, well, all Bibles I think are Jesus Bibles. But the whole idea there is that somebody's gone through and on both sides, whether you're in the New Testament or the Old Testament and you're reading, there's a thread, yeah. It's like go to this, and this says that you know, this is how where these things tie, and it's just it's really cool because it's it's there for you. I mean, you obviously could research that, but I like it when people do things for me. Sure. So um I'll try to find out what the name of that is for sure, and we can somebody might want to look at that.

SPEAKER_05

What do y'all think about this? Um, because I think we get this idea sometimes of more, more, more, you know, bigger, bigger, better. Um, we talked about in the sermon about hearing Jesus louder, loudest doesn't necessarily mean turning Jesus up, but it can be turning other things down. And so, which means partaking in something less, removing something from your life, uh, or just less often, whatever those distractions may be. But uh just the the general idea of sometimes the best thing you can do is less. And we we always want to do more. And and you know, you you get all fired up. It's like, I'm gonna read my Bible for seven hours. It's like, no, you're not. No, no, you're not. At least not effectively. No, yeah, exactly. You know, it's to hear Jesus, to hear him and listen to him doesn't mean that you have to be in a perpetual 24-7 Bible study. Now we should be in communion with him all the time. Sure. Uh, but maybe it's not you are not spending enough time in the word. Maybe you're not. Okay, let me put that off there first. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe it's right.

SPEAKER_05

Like maybe he, maybe you're spending time in the word, but you just can't remember it. You're not soaking in it, you're not thinking about it because you've got all this other stuff turned up. So just that general idea. Um, has anything else come to mind is as far as sometimes subtraction is the best, you know, way forward, the best addition is to take things um away.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think you you know, you talked about this probably I don't know, time is finicky with me, but you know, a year, year and a half ago when you talked about sometimes when you're riding in your car, just turn the radio off and just sit alone with God and and how hard that is. And I'm like, yeah, well, that's that's the only thing worse than you know your phone vibrating 24-7 is nothing happening. And you know, but it's also good. And it's it's in a lot of those times that I think we hear God's voice, not because it's louder, but because we've set aside time where I'm seeking him. You know, you will see you will find me when you seek for me with your whole heart. And I think our problem is you know, we we haven't matured sometimes. And I'm gonna speak for myself. You know, I I think back to my college days when I really was trying to get established in Christ. Like I knew Jesus, I knew I was called to follow him, I knew I was called to serve him, but I didn't have an appetite for the word of God. I didn't I wanted to hear good teaching, good preaching, but I didn't want to do any work myself. And I'm not a reader. I mean, I don't enjoy reading in general. And I can remember in college, like God just constantly raking me over the calls, like read more, read more, read more. And I remember making a deal with him, and I'm old, okay, so like Dreamcast was Sega Dreamcast, shout out uh to the seven people that remember that. Um, I I loved playing my Dreamcast. And so I made a deal with God at one point. I was like, all right, God, I'm not playing video games until I've spent time with you today. And so I can remember times unrolling the controller, because we had cords back then, and be like, oh, I didn't read my Bible. Rolling my cord back up, not grabbing my Bible, I'm gonna go play basketball, or I'm gonna go because I've just don't but it's an immature viewpoint, and and sometimes we don't move beyond that because it takes a little bit of discomfort. And the difference between immature me and hopefully a little more mature me is that now I don't have to make deals with myself. Yeah, and and but I get complacent in that sometimes, and so I don't that's the fine line between I'm reading out of habit and I'm reading out of affection. Affection. And you know, so like used to it was always on my mind because I had a tangible reminder. Now I read every day, but some days I'm still that immature kid that I'm just reading so I can get to my Xbox, get to my the next thing, you know, versus I'm reading to hear from God. And it's the action looks the same every single day, but the result is not. And the difference is not the effectiveness of God's word, it's whether I'm ready to let God's word change my mind or whether I'm doing it to check my box. And I would never say that because I'm a good Christian guy. I would never say I'm doing it out of just checking a box, but sometimes I do. I still think it's better than not reading, but only slightly. And, you know, I think that's part of this whole mindset is finding those connections, getting that passion, falling in love with seeing that truth. How often do we just not turn anything else down? Even though I'm doing the right thing, the volume of everything else around me and all the things I gotta get to next, and all the people I've got to minister to or please, or whatever it is that I gotta do, that I'm reading, but I can't hear from God because the volume of everything else is so high. And I think that was a really good point that you brought is that sometimes it's not read more, it's have the time that I am reading to be quality time that I'm with God and everything else is off. Right.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm not good at it, but you told me loud and clear that that's what I need to do. Yeah, I mean, I've been uh uh on the immature side of things, like you know, you're sitting there preaching something, uh, you're preparing to preach it, and then you're preaching it and you're like, you're you're not doing this. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I'm checking my Facebook notifications first thing, as soon as my eyes crack open, you know, alarm goes off on the phone, phone's in my hand, you know, you're you're five minutes in on social media and you you hadn't even wiped the sleep out of your eyes, you know. And that and when I said during the sermon, you're awake enough to check your social media, you're awake enough to read God's word. I was talking to myself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Because that's true. Because, you know, I'm doing it because like, oh, I'm so tired. I'm I'm not awake yet, but I can, you know, I'm sitting here scrolling, like whatever. And it's like Monday morning, well, my eyes popped open. I grabbed that phone and I went, what you gonna do?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

What you gonna do you gonna practice what you preach or you gonna be a hypocrite? You know what I mean? So you pick numbers one. I went to numbers of all places, right? Yeah, um, there was a reason for that. But I went to numbers one, read numbers one, and I was like, like, start your day with the word, man. You know, and of all things, like if you're if it's gonna compete with something, like you know, it's like it's like starting your day with like the nastiest thing you could possibly eat, you know what I mean? By by scrolling, as opposed to, you know, a nice healthy steak that's good for me. Like, let's get in the word and let's not a morning person at all.

SPEAKER_00

At all. I've said the complete opposite.

SPEAKER_05

Actually, when I said that when I said that during the sermon, like if you're not a morning person, get over it. Like, I actually made eye contact with Josh, not to tell him to get over it, but like, I know you know I feel you, dog. I know. I know I know you struggle in the morning, so I'm good at that.

SPEAKER_00

So that being said, I'm I'm trying something out, and so I'm gonna keep trying it out before I promote it. So I'll say that.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but Kelly turned me on to this. It's an it's an app, so it's still like because I'm right there with Dusty. I'm like that's I was not good in school unless somebody told me information. If you told me the information, I know the information. But if it's up to me to study the information, not gonna be so good. So I that's always been a struggle. I remember like I remember in youth group, they were like, Oh, you need to have a quiet time. You know, and I I I beat myself up because I just I don't take notes now. That I can't, if I take notes, I will have nothing to talk about in here because I've missed everything. So like that's that's where I'm at. So I'm I'm always looking now. Are there things that I can leverage with technology? You know, so I maybe I am turning this down, but I still need to use this technology where we're at. So this is the I this app, it's got a morning, midday, and evening prayer that that has a piece of scripture that they repeat several times so that it's soaking in. Uh-huh. Now it's real tranquil, and I don't know if you can change. I hadn't looked, they have like British accent, so it's real, it's it's scary. I would love that. And so, you know, like I said, I'm checking it out because I want to make sure that it's on the up and up. But so far, it seems to be because I don't want to just say. This is there's praying in this and reading the Bible. It's good.

SPEAKER_01

It's good.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I'll get back to you on if it is as good. But that's I've been trying that and in the morning, getting up and I get myself set. And actually, I listen to it in the shower. It's about 10 minutes of them praying, um, giving you prayer prompts and then reading the scripture, reflecting on that, praying through some stuff. And so it's good. I'm I'm I'm I yeah. If it continues to be good, I'll get back to you and let you know what it what it's called.

SPEAKER_02

We're used to that whole idea would would have I won't say offended me, but I would have gotten defensive. I mean, really, because I'm a I'm also I'm not a morning person at all. And I'm I'm also a guy who does my best thinking at night. That's a hundred percent true. When I was in college, you know, I can remember going to sleep, frustrated with a calculus problem. I couldn't figure out how to do this calculus problem, and I wake up at you know, two in the morning, like, oh dud, I didn't carry the two. Like, you know, I don't know why. Like and and I'm not that way in the morning. In the morning, I sometimes I don't even put my shoes on the right feet. Like, so I certainly ain't waking up and doing my best calculus work at 7:30 in the morning. Right. And so I've always had since I've been in God's word, I've always done a nighttime quiet time because that's when I think the best. And I still stand by that. I really still think that's when my best time is. But God's convicted me over the last six months, year that well, Dusty, just because you do a nighttime quiet time, which is the best time for you to study deep, right, you can't do that. It's also an excuse to not do anything in the morning. And so, you know, I've got an hour. I'm building a I'm building a routine. Like in the morning, I'm gonna spend, you know, it may be five minutes, it may be seven minutes. It's it's not an exuberant amount of time, right? Because I'm not engaged, but I still need something. Right. And it's gotten hour, you know, I can like this last Saturday, I woke up and I got up, I brushed my teeth, and I was getting dressed, and I thought, what are you doing, dummy? You ain't even read yet. And so like went back and did my quiet sign, you know, or did, you know, a little bit of a little study in Proverbs, a little, a little, you know, just dig into God's truth. And it's been good. And I I find that for me, while there was truth to what I've said for the last 20 years, that I do my best thinking at night, why would I handicap myself to only study at night? Like, okay, well, do your best study it at night. I'm not saying you should only do morning because that's the best way to start your day with God, but like, how about you bookend your day with a little bit in the morning and then do your deep dive at night, and you start and finished well.

SPEAKER_05

Right. I mean, what why is that such a big deal? Well, you put it, put the put it in because you can almost always find an analogy with marriage when it comes to our relationship with Christ. Put that in, put that in the terms of your physical marriage. Like, you know, I do my best thinking and talking at night, so that's when I'm gonna have a deep conversation with my wife, but you're gonna get up and not say anything to her in the morning. That's not gonna go well very long. Like now, I get it. Like, you know, you're not a conversationalist in the morning, so that's not the time that you're gonna be making plans and talking about all the things and doing, but you're gonna just you're gonna get up, never say a word, get dressed, walk out of the house, and never say hi, love you, bye, nothing. Yeah, probably not. Not very effectively, and not for very long before that becomes a major problem.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um Kelly said that she spent the first year of our marriage thinking I was mad at it.

SPEAKER_02

This guy's always mad until about lunchtime.

SPEAKER_05

No, I'm just the worst morning person in the world. You two you two are similar on that. Yeah. I mean, not that I'm great. Don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_03

I have mornings where I'm like, I can't do noise.

SPEAKER_05

I can't do noise. Okay, a lot of like noise, immediately noise in the morning is like, yeah, yeah. That's why at church camp I get up and I get out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Like I gotta, I gotta go somewhere where it's quiet for a little bit. Because I or like if you're sharing a cabin, you know, at Siloem, and the group you're with, they're the they're the kids that get up and get loud, like immediately, yeah, like it infuriates me. But then I go, okay, it's it's not it's you, it's not them, it's you. It's me, guys. It's me. I mean, it's a little bit of them, but like why you would be loud 30 seconds into your day. I have no idea why. But what if you've been up longer than that, then that's another problem. You know, so anyway, all the quirks and things that all my ticks and things tell on myself. Oh gosh. This question here, how can we distinguish between God's voice and our own pride or ambition when in making important decisions about work, family, and ministry? That quite that I I have in major turning points of my life, major decision points in my life, that is something that that I can get hung up on. Like, am I am I hearing the Lord or is this just what I want?

SPEAKER_00

Sure.

SPEAKER_05

Do I just really want this? And I'm convincing myself it is the Lord. And and you know, I know the I know the canned answers. We test it against scripture. We ask wise counsel, and those are true. Um, and do that. Um, and I I think eventually, I think it eventually you just it it settles in your spirit in a way that's like, okay, you know, and then the thing that I'm dealing with a lot here lately, and it's coming out on on Wednesday nights, is just just that idea of like he loves me. And like I don't love me sometimes often I don't love me, but he loves me. And so stop approaching this, stop approaching him like he doesn't love me because he does. And there like we have like you are in like his Holy Spirit is living in you, you have perfect union with him. And so like lean into that, trust that and talk to him like that is true. Um and like I'm I'm on this, it's kind of fleshing out before our congregation. I'm on this like journey the last couple of weeks where like I'm really uh part of it's I'm reading a book on prayer. Um, and part of it's probably things I've gone through recently and all that, you know, that'll that'll definitely get your attention. But like I just want to pray to him like I really trust that he's good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Like really trust that he's good. Not like know it, but like know it. Yeah, you know what I mean? And I just wanna I wanna I want to talk to him like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I want to talk to him like I want my son or daughter to talk to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's kind of the the way that I've been reframing framing it in my mind. Like we talked about it a few episodes ago, you know, like Addie crawling up beside you. Yeah, you know, and I actually use that terminology tonight, like like he's just our dad, our perfect dad that wants his children to just come sit beside him and and talk to him. Yeah, and trust that he really wants what's best for his for his child and for his children. And I just I want to pray that way because A, I want to know him like that, and B, I trust and believe that there is more power there with him than not. Um, I think most of the He miraculous things that he's done in my life have been in spite of my good prayers than it has been because of them. And and not that, not that I not not that I want to pray in a way that gets me glory or like I have some magic trick, but like I just believe there's divine power in properly communing with the creator of this universe. I th I just believe there's something there that that the early church got and that we've often lost along the way, um in my especially in modern Western times. Yeah. And I I want that back.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, I think, Daniel, I think you answered you answered your own question, really. You know, how how can we distinguish between God's voice and our own pride or ambition when making important decisions about work, family, or ministry? It's funny because this is literally the third time I've had this conversation today.

SPEAKER_05

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Um, which means God's trying to show me something, you know. But uh, you know, number one, I I think we're not powerful enough to mess up God's plan for our work family. Rest in that, bro. Rest in that. Some sometimes God reveals his plan, but I think when he does, it's clear. And then you choose, I'm gonna follow it or I'm not. Right. But 98.5% of the decisions that we make in our life, I think there's grace within it. Like whatever you're doing, do it as unto the Lord and not unto men. I don't think that Trust Him with the outcome, right? Exactly. And trust him that wherever I am, that's where he's going to use me. Right. And if I'm, you know, um whoever I'm, you know, when I'm talking to young people, like, well, am I supposed to well, are they honoring God? Are you supposed to be with this person? Are they honoring God? Okay, are you helping each other walk in Christ? Then I don't think you're trying to find your soulmate. I think you're trying to find someone who can draw you closer to Christ and that you can draw closer to Christ, and that you're willing to fight together for the rest of your life for a godly relationship. It's not if I pick the right person, it's gonna be easy. Every rise, right? Discerning my will from God is just God, okay. This is a wise, godly choice. Yes. And if it is, then rest in the fact that, as you said, God is your loving father, and he's not going to withhold that information from you and then be mad at you and punish you because you didn't do what he wanted when he didn't make it clear what he wants. So we're we're called to seek his will and we're called to serve him where we are. And if we feel like God's put us somewhere, then we are to serve there faithfully until he gives us a peace about going somewhere else. And so if we trust God as a good God, that he's a loving father, and that he has our best intentions at heart, then unless he's given us clarity, then we can rest and he's going to bless. Now I'm gonna use that word carefully, he's going to bless us where we are. And like I tried to tell our youth earlier, to bless us where we are doesn't mean that we're gonna be successful in what the world calls successful, but it means he's going to go with us.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's the blessing, is that he's with us in the good times, the bad times. When you get laid off and you say, Well, maybe I just picked the wrong job. Well, maybe you didn't pick the wrong job. Maybe, maybe the blessing is that God is going to see you through this time when when the finances aren't what we thought they would. Maybe it's not that God didn't bless you in that. Maybe it's God is showing you something, teaching you something, making you reliant on him, taking something out of your life to put something better back in. You you never know the blessing is he goes with us. And so when we say, How do we distinguish God's voice, that one's hard, but God's plan is not hard. I I just go. We we I think the two get convoluted in our hearts because I say, Well, if God has a plan, then I'll hear God's voice. And when I don't hear God's voice, then I don't know what voice. You know what I'm saying? Like, but if there is no plan, sometimes God's voice is just saying, Daniel, I got you, whichever way you go. You go left, I've got you. You go right, I got you. Because it doesn't matter left or right, I'm with you. And I agree with that. And then sometimes he stirs up within us. I've put this passion inside of you, not because it's the only way for you, but for sure. Go do it. You know, right.

SPEAKER_00

So I can look back over my life to now. So like my adult life, we'll save 20 to 42. That me getting married to to now where I'm making my own decisions. Um there's was times early on that I I know I'm fully aware. I was I had ambitions for myself and a plan for myself. And thankfully, I I pushed hard enough and long enough, but was aware enough to see none of these doors are opening, and I'm kicking and kicking and kicking, and nothing's coming open. Like this is the hard this, I don't think this is supposed to be this hard. And then a realization of that, stepping back, and then whatever the next thing was flowed right along. And then I've seen the opposite of that to where like I don't know, I'm pretty sure this is the plan. And everything just is laid out. Like I chunk, chunk, chunk. Yeah, like okay, like, and so because I've seen that both ways and been aware enough, because I won't say in the beginning that I was really seeking, I was just it it was me not seeking and then finally being like, I wonder, I wonder if I can and then but then I also you know, when I did push hard enough in certain situations and I did what I was gonna do, and I messed it up big time, but I know that he was always there, he was he was there in the midst of it, and now I see all of these blessings that came from what would be a considered a great failure. Now I question, I wonder what would have happened. Sure. You know, because I feel like that this is where I'm supposed to be, but I got here a really messed up way.

SPEAKER_04

What was the way I was supposed to go? Yeah, like how would that have worked?

SPEAKER_00

I would really, you know, so and that's not for us to know, and that's okay. But I I mean, I think I I've been able to share that a lot of times when people are trying to make decisions like our, you know, obviously, yes, tested against scripture if it's something that that that's right, right, that will do that. But sometimes making a job decision or a move decision or something like that, there's you're just trying to be discerning, you know. But but is he do you feel him, do you feel him with you in this, or is he stepping back and saying, Okay, see what you can do. Yeah, I'll I'll be right here.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Stuart shared something good uh tonight in Anchor. You know, he was talking to our young people, and he said that he feels like, and he gave some real life testimony, and I'm not gonna get into his story, but he said, he encouraged our kids, pray like this. When you have something like this going on, we had a young lady who stayed after, and she asked basically this exact question got some stuff going on, I'm a new Christian. How do I know whether what I'm doing is just what I want to do or whether it's what God wants me to do? Like I can't tell the difference sometimes. And he said, I just encourage you when it's something like that, just pray. God, this is what I think I'm supposed to do. This is what I feel like I want to do, like what it's it up next to scripture, it's fine. It's not morally or ethically wrong, this is what I want. And God, because you love me, if this isn't right for me, if this is gonna do damage, not good, close this door. Yes, yeah. But until God closes that door, this is the this is the evidence, and just have a conversation because a good dad, if you said that to you, a good father, dad, look, I think I'm gonna do this. And you know, unless you tell me no, then that's what I'm gonna do. And I see something as my and I love my baby, but look, baby, this is the problem with that. You can't see this. Well, isn't God a better better dad than I am? He much better. And he's gonna say, Okay, listen, I I love that you're seeking me. This is not healthy for you, this isn't good for you. This isn't, I have something different for you. He'll close that door. Yep. The problem is we don't ask him to.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_02

We say, God, this is what I'm doing. Bless it. Bless it. Yeah. And and make it right, even though it's wrong. That's that's that don't work.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_02

It don't work. You make these carbs go away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Well, that rings from a loving father's discipline. Yeah, what that brings. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, uh, I was talking with a young lady who's who's going to be baptized on Sunday and fired up about that. We were talking about salvation, and that's what you know, we're talking about a loving father. And you know, it's that exact same thing. Like we're work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Well, that doesn't mean that God's waiting to smite. Oh, I hope they make the wrong thing so I can put them in their place. It's work out your salvation in respect and reverence to your father, knowing that he's going to guide you and you want to please him. You don't you know that he's gonna be the most excited when you succeed. Yep. And he's also gonna be there to catch you when you fall, but he's also sometimes gonna not let you do what you want to do because it's not putting you in a position to be successful or be uh, you know, when I say successful in this sense, I'm talking spiritually successful to grow, to honor God, to point others to Jesus. And, you know, she has a great dad, and so I was like, you know, like you have a great dad. Are you scared of your dad? And she said, Well, well, no. And then she said, Well, I guess I mean, like, kind of, because if I don't do right, and I'm like, exactly, you're making the point. Like, we're not fear God like he's waiting to smite us. We fear God like I don't want to disappoint my dad because he loves me so much that he'll correct me if he has to. And he's gonna support me when he can. No matter what, you know, yeah. I mean, he's gonna support us through it all, but sometimes daddy's hands aren't always gentle, as the old song says. Right, right. I gotta start referenceing, bro. I never get to do that.

SPEAKER_03

So that's good.

SPEAKER_00

That's good. Oh man. Well we've done an hour, yeah. That's I mean, I mean, we can keep going out there. I was pointing that out. We've almost gone as long as Daniel Sarner.

SPEAKER_05

I knew that was coming. I've been waiting for that. Like this was almost a whole episode.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Hey, ironed it. For real, bro. Like, I there was nothing in there that I thought that was fluffy. He should have cut that out, and we get it. I mean, like, uh, when the spirit's moving, like, just bring it, send it on, don't worry about it. And the good thing was this Sunday we wear. So no one had to get nowhere to go. Nobody's being burned. If they did it, it's their own fault because they weren't planning on staying and celebrating our seniors.

SPEAKER_05

So you can ask Josh. I I told Josh before the server started. I said, I said, Josh, I got too much today, but I I've cut as much as I can cut.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Trimmed all the sand, all this month. That's right. I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_00

Um, we'll leave you with this application. Um, and this is to all of us. This is this is uh sitting in this room. This week, from from this point, whenever you listen to this, we'll say, um, commit to starting your day with that 10 to 15 minutes of intentional time. Intentional time with Jesus. And and do that before you you check your phone, check your emails, play your word game, whatever it is that you do when you pick up your phone. Um see see if within that, if you don't start to to hear the voice of your savior. And then doing it at the same time, you know, where ask him to point out where can I minimize these these noisy sounds, these noisy voices, these like well, you say either put it take care of your screen, your speaker, or yes, your surroundings.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, your speakers, your screens, your screens, your speakers, and your surroundings.

SPEAKER_00

Because in somewhere in there, I guarantee I know I hear garbage. It's it's because it's everywhere. So you know just take note of that this week. And he'll he'll he'll be there right there with you, and he'll see you, see you through that. So we're glad that you joined us, and we're we look forward to being in Mark again next week. So you'll want to see what's what's next. And uh we'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, sir. Peace out.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's it for this week's episode of Build. Remember. What we build with our hands fades, but what we build on Christ lasts forever. If today's episode encouraged you, share it and keep the conversation going. You can find past messages, upcoming events, and ways to connect at fbcdan.com. Let's keep building our faith one brick at a time. We'll see you next time.