The Cannabis Chronicles. Multiple Sclerosis

Tonight we’re exploring a condition that affects millions of people around the world… yet is still widely misunderstood.

Multiple Sclerosis.

Often called MS.

MS is a neurological disease that affects the brain and spinal cord. It can disrupt movement, coordination, sensation, and even vision.

Many people living with MS experience:

• muscle stiffness
 • nerve pain
 • chronic fatigue
 • difficulty with coordination

For many patients, everyday activities can become unpredictable.

Alongside traditional treatments, some patients and researchers have begun exploring another tool — cannabis.

 The Cannabis Chronicles | Starr Enterprises | Dr. Bong | Stay informed. Stay intentional. Stay lifted — responsibly 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Okay, it looks like a lot of people. All right, we've been having some technical difficulties here today. So um I'm just gonna uh wow, this is crazy. We are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, brother Bond, our weekly Candid Cannabis Community Conversation where we talk about our favorite subject. I don't want to I don't want to add anybody to my topic. What are you doing? Check one, too. All right, we are the Cannabis Chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong, and uh I hopefully all of the technical difficulties have been taken care of. I don't know what the status of the microphone situation is gonna be. Um I don't want to cancel that. Just cancel the search. There we go. Okay, okay, cool. Okay, so I don't have to keep searching. All right, so we are the Cannabis Chronicles. I'm your boy Brother Bum. We have weekly Candid Cannabis Conversation. Um, and uh this is our uh fifth season. We are on this platform, and uh we're gonna be on Buzz Sprouts. Uh so later on tonight we're gonna upload this to Buzz Sprout. We're gonna be on that platform, and you can check us out there. You can also check us out on um uh Google. And uh wow, let's see. Buzzsprouch is the main Apple and uh excuse me. Should have pulled this note out before. Alright, so we are on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeart, and Podcast Index. If you want to check us out there, so we are the Cannabis Chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong. And uh show topic today is multiple sclerosis, the condition. We're presented to you by Star Enterprises and Best Buds magazine, aka Best Buds Media. I am your co-host, I'm your host, Dr. Bong, and I'm coming to you on the stereo platform. So, uh welcome, friend, Stoners and Canada fam. This is the Cannabis Chronicles, and we are presented by Star Enterprises, and uh I'm Dr. Bong, and tonight we're exploring a condition that affects millions of people around the world, yet it's still widely misunderstood. Multiple sclerosis, also known as MS. Now, MS is a neurological disease that affects the brain and the spinal cord. Now, what happens at that point is it can disrupt your movement, how you walk, um, the ability to walk, your coordination, uh, your sensation, so um, and also vision. So um, that was pretty, pretty uh hard to those things. I mean, every day, if you I think about it, all those things I have to deal with everyday movement, ordination, sensation, and vision. I'm getting older, so I actually have on readers to read my stuff, and uh so I can see it from far away. So many people, you know, who um, and uh shout out to our friends and who are people and who are dealing with this, but many people living with MS experience muscle stiffness, um, nerve pain, chronic fatigue, difficulty with their coordination. So sometimes many patients um their everyday activities can be unpredictable. And alongside traditional, traditional treatments, some patients and researchers have begun exploring another tool. Guess what? Cannabis. That's right. So tonight we're gonna explore, we're gonna explore multiple sclerosis through, you know, through four lenses as we do, as our platform. We're gonna talk about it through a business perspective. Um we're gonna talk about um New York is on pace to outdo California's um out to to outdo California's uh original early uh numbers for their expansion for the med for the uh cannabis space. Um we're gonna talk about culture. The patients in New York Medical Cannabis Program reduced opioid prescriptions, and that's from a federal uh federal fund, federally funded study, so we're gonna check that out. Health, we're gonna talk about uh multiple sclerosis. And in Popourie, uh we got some little fun with you. Uh we're gonna talk about something that's a little different. Everybody talks about songs um that are pro-cannabis, but we're gonna talk about something a little different tonight. We are the cannabis chronicles. I am your boy, brother Bong, and uh, you know, we are a weekly candid cannabis community conversation. And uh we try to keep it, we we try to keep it about cannabis, uh, excuse me, yeah, about cannabis, but medical cannabis specifically. And I keep saying we, I keep saying we, I keep saying we. Um we do have a co-host that normally joins the show, but he has been um under the weather. And uh so you know I you know suggested that he you know just take it back and just get a little bit of um get a little bit of respite because it's important to heal. So shout out to you, my boy, my brother, from another mother, aka Wow Bill Waffert, aka Professor Waffles. He is a staple here on the show. So as I said to you earlier, I miss you, man. I can't wait for you to come back. So we look forward to seeing you, and uh, we look forward for you to joining the show. So as I said, um we talk about uh we'll talk about multiple sclerosis in a business perspective. And um see because what happens is that the cannabis, the cannabis industry is expanding, and it's expanding rapidly, and definitely here in New York, you know, no doubt about it. Things are definitely moving at a rapid pace, and legal markets are also developing. So dispensaries are opening, patients are gaining access to cannabis in ways that would have seemed impossible a decade ago. I'm telling you, a decade, just a decade ago. People were still running and uh stashing their cannabis if they saw the law and they wanted to uh not have to deal with them. So um that's truly, truly, truly is a true statement. Um, so we are the cannabis chronicles. Um, an article from uh Marijuana Business Daily reports that uh New York cannabis sales are on pace to rival cannabis. Let's slow down, Jeff. Okay. An article from Marijuana Business Daily reports that New York cannabis sales are on pace to rival California's early regulatory benchmarks, according to state regulators. Now that's significant because California has long been the largest cannabis market in the United States. So seeing New York's market expand, this quickly shows how dramatically, dramatically this industry is evolving and is growing here in New York. But growth brings responsibility. Behind every market statistic is a real patient. Someone's mom, someone's dad, someone's friend, someone you know. So, you know, it's important that we understand that behind every market statistic is a real patient. Someone managing chronic pain. You know, um, I am sharing, I am a chronic pain patient. I have uh chronic pain in my knees and my back. And before I discovered medical cannabis, I was a I was I wasn't um how do I say this? It was very debilitating for me to use opioids. So when I used opioids, they were very, very um knock me out. So I couldn't take them like and work and function. Like I know some people who could take opioids and function and go about the day like it's nothing, like everything is on okay, fine, but I'm not that kind of person. So I had to live with that during the day and then go home, deal with the debilitating effects of the medicine, and then my days off uh Saturday and Sunday, I would just basically, Saturday you recuperate, Sunday you redred Monday. So that's really, really what it is. So in the United States, especially. So um, so you know, but what we don't realize, you know, we talk about all this expanding, we talk about all this expansion, excuse me, the right word. We talk about market shares and money and everything like that. But someone having neurological condition like MS is just looking for help, is just looking for somebody to help. And that's where we come in. That's where we, and I say we again, because we are the Chronicles crew. I'm Dr. Bong Yes, and we're the Cannabis Chronicles, but we've had Chronicle, we've had a crew for a very long time, folks who um, you know, check out the show on a regular basis and um, you know, want to find out more about cannabis, and specifically not just talking about consuming cannabis, you know, smoking, but um also cannabis as a medicinal purpose, a medicinal uh benefit. So someone is fired, it's someone out there that definitely searching for relief, and we want to make sure that they find them. So the um for me, I feel that the cannabis industry must continue to prioritize certain things. And this is all this is definitely in my wheelhouse that uh we talk about patient education, uh, we talk about responsibility and regulation, we talk about medical research, and we talk about safe access. All those things are very important because as I've said many, many times, cannabis is not just about, you know, rolling up smoking, but it's also which is all well and fine, trust me. You know, um I enjoy my cannabis like just like the next guy. And uh, you know, it's it's it's it's um not only is it part of my medicinal routine, but it's also part of my life routine. So um quick shout out to two friends of the show helping move cannabis forward, talking about friends of the show. Um, Best Buds magazine covering cannabis culture, advocacy, and industry developments, and Sage Genetics, working on cannabis genetics and cultivation scientists and scientists, and also uh shout out to Sage Genetics because uh the uh strain of the week is last week it was cherry gushers, and this week it is and more in depth, but it's lemon cherry gelato. We're gonna talk a little bit more about it later on in the show. But the uh the the uh strain of the week is lemon cherry gelato. So, you know, we're gonna look at um we as I said, we're we're talking about uh multiple sclerosis this evening, and as I said many times, you know, um cannabis isn't for everybody, but everybody knows somebody who can benefit from medical cannabis. And so um multiple sclerosis is one of those things, one of those conditions that many people know people who have individuals in their lives, in their life who may suffer from this condition and be looking for a relief, looking for something, and they've tried all kinds of other things. So because what happens is this is that when we look at it through that lens, cannabis or excuse me, multiple sclerosis is often described as as an individual as an invisible illness. So that means that someone may appear perfectly healthy while experiencing neurological symptoms internally. You know, we like what did my mama say if you don't you don't know what a person's going through until you you know walk through their shoes. So that person may be appear to be you know just fine, but the condition that they're suffering from is debilitating them from inside. So this can lead misunderstanding and isolation. You know, people um people who suffer from multiple sclerosis often find that it's uh because the condition can be cabrect progressively debilitated, it uh finds that they find themselves to be isolated and misunderstood. So poor communities and advocacy networks. Um, and I think this is part of that. We're networks, we're an advocacy network. Uh, if you talk about it, if you want to talk about it, we're here for you to do that. Um, help change the conversation. And uh the most important thing is that we help change that conversation, whether it be here, whether it be around dinner table, whether it be at a dinner party, whether it be at our at a work function, you know, change the conversation about cannabis. Because the stigma is something that is real. The stigma is something that has uh just been, you know, uh, since day one, you know, since had his had his foot uh throat, its knee in the throat of real understanding what cannabis was. And that was race, that was racism um through and through. Uh you know, even that's why I don't use the word marijuana. I um always want to remember that that word was rooted in a space where individuals were trying to demonize a plant, and so the only way they could demonize it was to make it be exotic and sound like it was exotic, and so that word was made up. So um, but getting back to subject on hand. So um, multiple sclerosis is often described as an as an invisible illness. So um, and increasingly cannabis is becoming part of those discussions. We are changing that conversation. This conversation we are having today here at the Cannabis Chronicles, we are doing that. We're changing the conversation. I came across uh uh an article, a federally funded study examining New York's medical cannabis program, found that patients participating in the program experienced significant reduction in opioid prescriptions. These findings were highlighted in the article in marijuana moment. Now, for decades, let's let's face it, for decades, for decades, for decades, opioids were the go-to prescription for chronic pain. Um, and it was the default treatment for chronic pain, which is what all doctors and uh clinicians defer to. But as we're experiencing, as we know, as we've discussed, cannabis access is expanding. So many patients are exploring alternatives with their healthcare providers. And let's face this, let's say this always on the same, yeah, my name says Dr. Bond, but I am not a doctor. I'm not your doctor, and nothing that I say on this show should be considered to be medical advice. Uh, we strongly suggest that you, and uh if you are interested in medical cannabis, then seek out the advice of your primary care physician. And to be honest with you, nowadays, especially if you're in New York, many crop primary care physicians are you know open to having that conversation with their patients because, as I said, for millions and millions of people, this is an alternative. So um, so but I guess as the cannabis um cannabis has become more acceptable and more uh uh more use more often um then the uh expansive patients are exploring alternatives with their healthcare providers. This represents a broader cultural shift towards patients' choice. Wellness-based care. So, what does that mean? That means that you know, yes, the doctor can prescribe you an opioid, but you may have a supplement. Like many folks have seen, have found that they have been able to use their opioid, and you again consult your farm, your your physician. But it allows you, many folks seem to use less of the opioids when they use it in conjunction with a cannabis regimen. Like if you have, if it's your knee, you can actually take your opioid medication. And then if you're using a topical for cannabis, you can apply that balm directly to where it hurts. And that is a direct um contact relief medication. So it represents again, you know, um, we, you know, we have we have come so far, definitely come so far, but we have so so so far to go. We have so much more to learn, we have so much further to get. But as you know, we know we will get uh we will get there, you know. And um, you know, it's up to us, it's up to folks like us to use our voices as a candidate for that change, you know. And um so we are the cannabis chronicles. I am Dr. Bong. We are a weekly candid cannabis community conversation, but we chop it up about cannabis. Today's subject is multiple sclerosis. Um, as I said earlier, I am not a doctor. I am uh was I was dubbed Dr. Bong a few years ago when I first started talking on uh this platform with uh Ty. Shout out to Ty. Hopefully, you and Summer and Baby Girl are doing well in uh in Canada. But uh he had asked me a question, and at the time I kind of broke it down for him, and he was like, yo, man, you're a doctor, man. Dr. Bong. And so it stuck, and I like it. But I am not a doctor, I'm not your doctor, so please do not consider this to be any medical advice. Friends of the show, two more friends of the show tonight. We want to shout out, man, our good friends from Canadaware Society. You know, if you want to get involved, if you want to be involved, boots on the ground. Join the platoon, reach out to our friends at the Canadaware Society, uh, because what they do is they promote cannabis uh education, awareness, and they educate, they uh advocate, and they connect folks. So if you want to do that, if you want to be part of something like that, and you know, everybody doesn't want to everybody doesn't want to be plant touching, but many people want to get involved. So if you want to get involved, check out their website, it's uh cannaware.org. That's can aware.org. Uh and be boots on the ground. So shout out to Grizz, Abe, Sam, and uh the Lady Star and Nori. Thank you so much. Because this is this is real life, this is real life activism, this is real life education, and these are real life connections. So thanks so much, Grizz, for all that you do. Also, our friends at here we go at Chill Pipes. Shout out to Justin and his friends for bringing creativity and design to the cannabis culture. You can check them out, uh, you can check the pipes out at chillstore.com. That's chillstore.com, and check out Justin, excuse me, and his team over at uh the Chill Store. And I really love my um, I'm obviously Dr. Bong, but I have a collection of bogs. And one of the bogs I have in my collection is a bong from um Joe Pipes, and her name is uh Ebony. Uh nice, was it maybe a one-foot bong? Nice uh everything from Dr. Bong. I like Johnny Cash of the World. So I like black. I have a lot of black stuff. I just got a new black phone with a black case, and um so uh but anyway, um uh is black, and that's why her name hence the name Ebony. So shout out to Justin and his team and the crew over at uh Cool uh Chillpipes and Budsfeed.com. You can check them out at budsfeed.com uh and uh get some get some information. You've you can follow up. You may even see one of the stories I talk about here on the show, and uh we go from you know from there. Um because as I said, we are the cannabis chronicles, and what we do is we chop it up about cannabis in a medical perspective. And today's show we're talking about multiple sclerosis. And if many of you don't know, multiple sclerosis is it affects how the nerve signals travel through the body. So the immune system um what happens is it damages the protective covering of the nerves, excuse me, of the nerve fibers, disrupting communication between the brain and muscles. So what that leads to is uh stuff like muscle spasms, uh, nerve pain, um, fatigue, sleep disturbances. So that is really, really, really part of every day. I mean, you really, you know, how do you we talked about fibromyalgia last week and uh how that how debilitating that condition is, and how to suffer with that, how um, you know, uh cannabis is a again, cannabis is not a snake oil. You're never gonna hear Dr. Baum call uh cannabis a snake oil. What it is is it's a supplement and it does help I don't know, bridge the gap, help to um fill the gap. That's a that's a better word, Doc. Fill the gap for uh cannabis and opioids and benzos and those types of medications. But again, consult your real physician, your real PCP, and find out. Um I was about to sing Aretha Franklin, but I guess I said the PCP, R E S P C T. R-E-S-P-E-C-T, excuse me. Um great song. Uh re, re, re, re, re, re, re, respect. Shout out to the Queen of Souls, rest in peace, Queen Aretha Franklin. So, um when uh the endocannabinoid system, which in a which which if you listen to the word endocannabinoid system, which cannabis interacts with plays a role in regulating guess what? Nobody pain signals, inflammation, muscle control, and sleep cycles. So if you look at muscle spasms, nerve pain, fatigue, sleep disturbances, pretty got uh, pretty got pretty, yeah. You're checking all those boxes with cannabis and with the endocannabinoid system and how cannabis interacts with the endocannabinoid system. And again, having a ratio of a medication, having a medication that has uh equal parts THC and C B D in it, allow an individual to regulate how they feel, how much of the psychotropic experience they have and how much they don't have. You know, it's important for folks to realize that yes, cannabis is it is a psychotropic, it will make you feel loopy. So if you don't know what you're doing, you don't want to just try and you know, smoke a joint or blunt with somebody, and although you may have temporary relief, but once that effect wears off of you, if you have chronic pain, then you're gonna be back to square one. And if that person's not readily available, or you don't have that cannabis readily available, it's going to be uh a learning cross, a learning process, a learning curve. And that's where, you know, again, that's where I cut my teeth, that's where I learn to help folks and to be able to ask those questions. And, you know, it goes back to you know being a good salesperson. I used to do sales a long time ago. And the best way to help somebody is to listen to them. Because isn't sales really just listening, or isn't sales just really helping somebody? Helping them make a choice into whatever the case may be. Isn't that what you do? So listening. So um, and that was again, that was the that is that was that is the core of what I do with with medical cannabis. Like the first thing I want to do is I want to listen to the patient. I want to, I want to find out like where their comfortability level is, like, like where their cannabis experience is. Because again, that's gonna affect things as well. That's gonna affect things big time. Now, if you have a person who's never who is cannabis naive and has never consumed cannabis ever in their life, and then you have someone, say, like myself, who I'll take away all the things I know. I'm just a person who consumes, consumes what I consume, how I consume, how much I consume. So at that point, now you have to look at the individual as how do I, how do I help this person use cannabis medicinally? How does this medicinal cannabis help this person? How does it, how can how can it help this person? So you want to you want to factor that in. You want to factor in the fact that that person is cannabis naive. But on the other side of that, you want to factor in the fact that a person may be cannabis savvy. They may be a consumer of cannabis, and then you have to factor that in. Because now, at that point, you're gonna have to dose them differently. Now, I had um my very first experience is uh well, not my very first experience, but in the beginning, I had a patient come in. He was a veteran, and let me tell you, uh I'm a veteran, so we hit it off with that. So that we first of all we hit it off with the veteran thing, you know. Shout out to all of the veterans um across the board, uh Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, uh, space, uh, space force. So shout out to all the veterans. But I had a veteran come into my dispensary and he wanted to have a oh let me see what's going on. Hello, Aquarius girl. How you doing out here?

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Hey, I'm a veteran too. Yay, veterans for life.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

Oh my goodness. How you doing today? How you doing today, brother? Nice seeing you up here talking.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you. Um thank you for joining the cannabis chronicles. I'm your I'm your boy, Dr. Bond. Um, in today's subject, uh, we're talking about medical, talking about multiple sclerosis. And um basically the overlying theme across the board is that cannabis is medicine. Um I don't know what your veteran experience is. Um many of my patients have been veterans who suffer PTSD, and they are looking for cannabis to uh to help them with that PTSD. Um and see how that uh because you know, I don't know if you know this, but recently uh the the vet the government passed um I was gonna allow uh VA doctors to talk to veterans about cannabis as an alternative as a therapy. So that's that's major because they will give us 10,000 different pharmaceutical medications, but they won't let us deal with cannabis. And obviously because of the federal restrictions, but the reclassification, the rescheduling, excuse me, from from uh from up top um is gonna change things. Um don't think it is where we really wanted it to be. I mean, I've always been one that you know, rescheduling is great, but uh legalization is the ultimate goal because how do you legalize a seed, a plant? Do you legalize cucumber seeds? I can get a I can go to any um store and purchase cucumber seeds and grow cucumber seeds. So why couldn't a person who has the capability and the desire to grow their own medicine not be able to grow their own medicine? Oh, that's why, because it is medicine, and Big Pharma doesn't want us to really see cannabis as the medicine that it is. I see posts every day about, oh, you don't need to use this, you don't need to use that, you don't need to use this. And I take all of that with a grain of salt and take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. Don't just say, oh, okay, because Dr. Bond says XYZ, that's the way it is, because that's not what it is. And as I said earlier in the show, multiple sclerosis is an individual thing. That is personal. I don't go through the pain that the individual goes through. I don't go through the uh I don't go through the fatigue and I don't have the inflammation or sleep cycle messed up. You you know what I mean? But um some research suggests cannabinoids can help reduce MS-related muscle spisticity and neuropathic pain. Now, what is spisticity? Spisticity is, you know, when your muscles are jumping and you have like uncontrollable muscle twitches. So um, you know, we'll see. But cannabis is not a cure, but for some patients, it may provide a meaningful support within a broader treatment plan. As I said, you can talk to your doctor. So our spotlight today is an article in CRX magazine titled Ask the Expert and explores how cannabinoids interact with the body and how patients can approach cannabis therapy responsibly. Now the key message is very, very simple, my friends. Cannabis works best when used thoughtfully and with medical guidance. So, which means you want to have you want to have ideas and you want to think about things like understanding dosage, you want just understanding delivery methods. What are delivery methods, Dr. Bond? What are you talking about? Well, that's the route of administration. You know, every route of administration is different. Let's see, a case in point, okay. People talk about edibles, and they talk about, oh, I had a really rough experience with an edible because I ate too much. Well, what happens is that because each of those routes of administration is different, each of those delivery methods is different, they're gonna have two distinct differences, and that's onset. And onset is just a fancy way of saying how quickly you're gonna feel it, and then the duration of action. So we have a bubble here from our listener. Let's see what Aquarius Girl has to say.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

Um if you don't mind, um, and if not, it's cool, it's cool. But if you don't mind, um, can I come up there? I actually got a few questions to ask you. Um, some things I would like you to educate me on. Um, I could ask them in the messages, but it's um I feel like it's better if I come up there. Just ask it. Okay. Um, I'm willing to listen.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Well, I'd be happy to bring you on. So let's see, let's add you.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

Hi, brother.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Hi, brother. Good evening.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

Good evening. How are you today?

SPEAKER_03 40:00

I'm okay. I'm okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Um, thank you for joining the thank you for joining the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy Dr. Bong and you are Aquarius Girl. Nice to meet you. Where are you from?

SPEAKER_03 40:12

I'm from Louisiana, actually.

SPEAKER_00 40:14

Okay. I'm in New York. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

I'm sorry. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

But it it's nice seeing you up. It's nice seeing up here. Um, so yeah. Um one of the questions uh I wanted to ask, it was about um okay. So you're talking about uh when you say cannabis, you talk about the medical weed, right? Am I right? Am I wrong?

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Yes, you're right, you're right, you're right. Absolutely. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Yes, I can hear you. Um I'm not asking you to diagnose me or anything, but I actually deal with like issues with like weed. I do, I do, I would like to smoke it, but it doesn't have the same effect on me like it does in everybody else if it makes sense. Um I deal with a lot of anxiety, and when I smoke certain things, and I I don't even feel like the things that they sell in the dispensary is even really good for good for me. And there's a reason I say that is because it does a lot more negative for me mentally when I smoke it or when I take it than it does good.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

So what route, what uh what dosing method are you using?

SPEAKER_03 41:46

Um I would either I would either just uh I would either just smoke it or something like that, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Um nothing big, nothing big. I just um it's not something, but like I literally, I literally have something sitting on my counter right now, and I'm really, really, really, really, really scared to smoke it. Really scared.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Okay. See, because that could be a factor too, you know what I'm saying? Because again, it's all about it's all about certain things. And one of the big preliminary factors is how you gum into it. So if you're really stressed out, then you may have a really stressed out experience.

unknown 42:26

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 42:30

Oh, I'm sorry, and it's also like a I it's also okay. I can't I have to stay away from sativas, first of all, because of that.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

I was gonna suggest that.

SPEAKER_03 42:40

I was gonna I have to stay away from sativas. Indigas are fine, but even indigas now, like when I'm not gonna lie, when I was when it wasn't legalized and we were buying it off the street, I had a lot much more, a lot better of an experience. You know what I'm saying? Versus like things like insulin and dispensary, and I don't know if the C B D levels aren't there or what.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

So I mean, you know, it's it's interesting that you said that. Okay, so first of all, cannabis is really a everything is a hybrid. There is no really sativa there's no really indica or completely sativa. They're usually hybrids because they have been crossbred so far long in the in the in the strains. But what I would suggest is like if you have a new cannabis or something that's new to you, like, or something that you're excuse me, it's something that you're used to and it works for you, then you want to stick with that strain. So you like the the strain of the to uh this week's strain for our show is uh lemon cherry gelato. Love it. It's a hybrid. It might be something that you might want to try because then it gives you the Indica experience, but not completely indica in the couch kind of thing. Because a lot of times I don't know if that was your next thing, but a lot of times that's what folks experience is being stuck in the couch.

SPEAKER_03 44:10

Well, no, no, not even like that. Like the indica that I'm talking about was actually very, very good. You know, I'm saying I was still moving on, I was just more relaxed, right? My body, my um nervous system, you know, was a lot more relaxed than anything. Um, and it wasn't really, and it really wasn't like a big head high, if that makes sense. Uh in my head type of high. So because I'm already a very much in my head person, right? I already dealt with this. Um which um I go to therapy for, I do the things I draw, like it's just my nervous system is way out of whack, right? Fight or flight mode is always there.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

I understand, understand. So, uh, because again, that's that's why I said that about the strains, because they can say to you at the dispensary, oh, this is an indica, this is this is this, this is that. So you want to stick to, like I said, if you find something that works for you, then stick to that strain. And then if you try something new, don't like uh like I had a patient one time who took her grandson tried to, you know, dose her and they started smoking a blunt, he walked away, she kept smoking a blunt, and then it was a negative experience. But had she maybe stopped, you know what I'm saying, had a couple of puffs and put it out, and then assessed how she felt. And I think this is this could apply to you too, is to have a couple of pulls, put it out, and see how it works.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

And that's what I do, and that's what I do. It's still still just affect it, still just affects, especially because I'm not a big smoker, you know what I'm saying? I'm not a big smoker, so my tolerance is very, very low. And I'm not a big smoker because of it's a hit or miss for me, you know, very hit or miss. And I don't know. You definitely did it with a typerope, and I kind of get and I kind of get jealous of other people because I'm just like, How are you enjoying this? How do you enjoy it?

SPEAKER_00 46:18

You know, you got you got you got high envy. That's fucking that's funny. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

Yes, I was just like, you son of a bitch, how do you enjoy your high? How?

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Usually, usually it's the average, like people usually say, Oh my god, I'm too high, I'm too high, I'm too high, I'm too high. So, yeah, we are you know, like I said, we do, you know, like again, and and your situation is not unique. I'm sorry, you you're you're you you you are unique as an individual, but the situation isn't unique, it's just it's like you said, you you you really encapsulated it all when you said it's hit or miss. Once you find what works for you, it's gonna work for you. You know, um do you know anybody who's suffered from multiple sclerosis?

SPEAKER_03 46:57

Um I believe I had a I believe I had a friend that might have. Might have. Um, and explain to me what is that what what is that exactly again?

SPEAKER_00 47:14

Sure, sure, so basically, um, you know, multiple sclerosis is a condition that affects our uh our whole bodies. All right. So let me just go back to here. So basically, um it's a neurological disease that affects the brain and our spinal cords. And so what it does is it disrupts our movement, our coordination, our sensation, our vision. Have you ever um you like TV, right? You remember, do you do you I don't know how old you are, because there's two people prominently that I remember or I know of who have multiple sclerosis. One of them is uh oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's uh uh Michael J. Fox. Um, he's an actor. He was in a couple of movies, he's a young actor, and he uh he developed that. So MS, it does it it disrupts our movement, our coordination, our sensation, and our vision. So what happens is many people experience muscle stiffness, uh nerve pain, chronic fatigue, and the difficulty with their coordination. Um when I first started working in the industry, my first I saw one of the first people I saw was a gentleman who his movements were so aggressive and so violent that he um couldn't hold, say, a cup of tea or a water, a glass of water.

SPEAKER_03 48:33

Oh yes, okay, yes. I I have known somebody like that. I have known somebody like that that suffered from that then for sure.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

Um that's the that's where the muscle spasms come in. So cannabis has helped many people like that. So, you know, we what we do here is that we talk about you know those conditions. We talk about it weekly, every week we uh we talk about a condition. So I appreciate your input. Um in uh in Louisiana.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Yeah, um, yeah, I just yeah, I was just trying to better educate myself because I haven't really got answers like I've been searching for for this these type of situations because uh for some reason people just look like love, they just look like they enjoy the same weed or the same marijuana or the same cannabis, right? In other terms that for some reason I I feel like my life is flashing if I smoke, if I smoke it.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

Okay. See, again, like that is that it's severe.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

That just may be too strong. I mean it's so severe.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Are you are you are you trying to keep up with the big girls or the big boys? Are you just you said you're keeping a couple of puffs, right?

SPEAKER_03 49:51

Yeah, just a couple of pups, I promise. I'm very, very, I'm very, very careful, right? I'm very, very careful. So whenever I do these things, I am very, very careful. However, it just it just seems like 60% of the time it does not work out for me. It does not, and I'm not a regular, and I'm not a regular smoker, right? Before before I joined the military, I was smoking, but I never really can't. And but it's not that I didn't care for it, right? It's not that I didn't care for it. It's just I but part of my I I would say that I don't care for, but part of me saying I don't care for it is just going um off of the experiences that I have, right? I don't care for the experiences with it.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

So have you ever is there another way? Have you ever tried another way? Like have you ever tried like an oral solution? Like because a one-to-one, one-to-one ratio, do you know what a ratio is?

SPEAKER_03 50:52

Yes. So I have tried, um, I made my own um weed brownies. We uh bake goods, you know what I'm saying? Um, and some of them have worked out for me, some of them have not, right? Um, so there's I I have known to have a better experience with uh my weed brownies, but I don't know if that was the type of because when you're getting this stuff off the streets, you because this is before it was legal, you know? By the time they started making it legalized and um in most parts of the country, right? I was getting it off, I was also getting it off of the streets. You get me? So um I have had like I said, though, I felt like I had better experiences with that, you know. Um, so I I didn't know exactly what I was getting. So there will be times.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

And you don't have that, you don't have that you don't have that plug anymore, you don't have that resource anymore?

SPEAKER_03 51:55

Because it stopped making them a lot of money. Because people were able to just rarely of people just went what what with what was convenient versus what was cheaper, you know? Or what was there.

unknown 52:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

So the so the plug so the plugs really did stop. A lot of the plugs and they'll the plug that I was getting from when like when people were calling just Reggie, Reggie, right? And something that I knew that I knew wasn't gonna make me sit there and get stuck, not only stuck on the couch but stuck in my whole own head, like hybrids do, right? It got me stuck on the couch and stuck in my own head. Explain that, right?

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Well, that's a strong indica. Indica in the couch. That's the one of the the the limericks for it, indica in the couch. So if you're in the couch and you're in your head, then that's gonna be, you know, that's gonna be really, really, really what it is.

SPEAKER_03 52:54

No, but it was a mental, it was hell. It was hell for me.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

And you and you smoke that.

SPEAKER_03 53:00

I was stuck in a mental hell. That's how I would describe it. I smoked it. Right. And I don't like um having uh I don't like not having control over myself, if it makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

Well, you said something about the military, but you know, but you know, I appreciate your input, but uh we're about to wrap up the show today. So um do you have any other questions? I apologize if I No, no, no, no. That's that's cool. That's that's that's fine. I that's what we do it, that's what we do it for. I'm glad I was here to answer your question. I'm glad you had a question for us. You know, I just you know just want to let you know that. You know, we usually run for an hour or so, but we're here on every Wednesday. So you follow me. Um appreciate you. You can hear yourself back. Um if you want to follow on the um on the platform for the uh for the podcast, because I take this and I just reuse it for my podcast. It's on uh Buzz Sprout or um you can find it on Spotify, and you can hear yourself if you want to come back on next week. Please feel free to do so.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

Um when you get a chance, um share some of your links, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

I certainly will. I certainly will share the links and share the links and let folks know. Um, like I said, I usually have if you listen to the show, I usually have a co-host. He's we're all we're all cannabis, we're all medical patients. So he's going through his thing right now. He had a little treatment done, a little surgery. So he's healing, but his name is Professor Waffles, and I'm Dr. Bong. And we used to do the show here years ago, but then we went to Instagram live and we're back here, and we're here every Wednesday at 9 to 10. And we chop it up. And next week's show, what's next week's show about where is the information? Next week's show is about Alzheimer's. You know, I don't know if you know people, uh, but cannabis can be beneficial for folks who are dealing with with Alzheimer's.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

Yeah, and I dealt with um I dealt with a lot of um Alzheimer's and uh patients who also had dementia as well. A lot of senile patients.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

I totally understand. So um, we got some more friends of the show. You're a new friend. Thank you so much for coming on Aquarius in Louisiana. So tonight we also recognize Living Solo DMV supporting regenerative cultivation practices and Budgefeed Weekly for sharing cannabis news and community house uh community insights. So uh we're gonna look into the last lens. We got is that lightning out there in New York? I don't know. Is it from the Pope Ree? Cannabis culture continues evolving around science, policy, and entertainment. And sometimes that history can be very surprising. Uh to Light Spotlight is an article I came across as celebrity stoner, and it's something oh, that's definitely lightning, but uh usual in the music history. Now, anti-cannabis songs, yes? Songs warning people about cannabis, different era, different messaging. And many of those songs came from a time when prohibition and misinformation were widespread. So looking back today, they remind us how much the conversation around cannabis has changed. The focus is on science, education, and responsible use. So, two more shout-outs of the today's show. We want to shout out um a real dispensary, uh big gas dispensary, part of the growing retail cannabis landscape, connecting patients and consumers with legal cannabis products and pen game publishing, uh, supporting uh not only cannabis storytelling, publishing, and creative voices in the industry, but also Best Sudge magazine, the cultivar, but also Best Sponge Magazine in our cultivar spotlight this week is Lemon Cherry Gelato. As I said before, before we could close tonight's show, it's time for our cultivar spotlight. Today's cultivar lemon cherry gelato. Um, the genetics often associated with the gelato family, the line is connected with Sunset Gerbert, excuse me, sunset sherbet and Girl Scout cookies. Uh the terpees are lemonines, which have a citrus aroma. Interesting name lemon, lemonine, uh, carophylline, uh, that's what you get the spicy notes, and then Myrcine, where you get the earthy undertones. And one of the things, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 57:06

Oh, okay. All right, brother. I'm gonna get off of here and let you finish up the show.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Um I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03 57:13

All right, you have a good one, okay? And thank you for your time.

SPEAKER_00 57:17

Thank you.