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The Cannabis Chronicles; HIV/AIDS

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Tonight’s topic is one of the most important in cannabis history…

HIV/AIDS.

This isn’t just about a condition.

This is about a movement.

HIV affects the immune system…

And for many patients, it comes with:

• severe weight loss
 • appetite loss
 • chronic pain
 • nausea
 • fatigue

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SPEAKER_01

Alright, alright, alright. Welcome, friends, stoners, and can of fan to the latest episode of The Cannabis Chronicles. I am your boy, Dr. Bong, and uh I am your host, and we're gonna chill out here for an hour or so and talk about uh medical cannabis. You're gonna chill out with me while I get myself situated and get all the background noise out of my life. And drink me some water and see how you folks have been in the past week. So, as I said, welcome, friends, stoners, and can of fam to the latest episode of The Cannabis Chronicles. I am Dr. Bong, and I am gonna be your host for today's show, where we talk about uh we talk about our favorite subject, which is cannabis, medical cannabis, that is. So, um, as I said, welcome, friends, stoners, and can fan to the latest episode of the Cannabis Chronicles, presented to you by Star Enterprises. I am Dr. Bong, and I'm glad to be here with you folks every week. Glad to have our conversation and talk about the things we talk about. And uh shout out to all our friends, uh, those who are going to join the show. We may have uh a visitor to the show. We may have Joseph maybe coming through and talk to us uh while Bill is going to be off again this week, but we shout out to him and uh say hopefully everything is good with him. And maybe he might even pop on too if uh he decides to give us a couple of minutes. So we are the cannabis chronicles. I am Dr. Bong, and we are a weekly candid cannabis community conversation presented to you by Star Enterprises. And here we educate, elevate, and advocate because cannabis is medicine. Now, not true, not traditional, because I had a conversation, shout out to a good friend of mine who uh we we chopped it up earlier this week and um brought an interesting point to um to to be uh to what we were talking about, and it was very interesting. So, you know, shout out to uh the friends of the show. And uh we have friends on the show. We were talking about uh how we used to um I would see him on uh Fordham. Shout out to Fordham Road, it's very busy up there. We would uh I would look out and see my friend and be like, oh staff, there he is, what's going on? So shout out to him and his family and everybody associated with him. So we like to uh talk about today's topic. Today's topic is one of the most important in cannabis history. Um it goes back, these two topics, and uh cannabis, medical cannabis for me, are hand in hand. Um and I guess this is when I started to uh I guess when I first was introduced to people getting relief from uh medical cannabis or cannabis, because it wasn't labeled medical cannabis, but uh the today's tonight's topic is uh HIV and AIDS. Now, this isn't about a condition, this is about a movement and uh a group of folks who are of a certain age we got a chance to live through certain things and see certain things. I gotta get my notes. When things were a lot different in America, and uh the the stigma for cannabis was in full, full, full, full force. But then AIDS and AIDS came on the on the scene and it changed a lot of people's lives, uh, millions and millions of people's lives. And um so it was uh through my friendships and my relationships with folks that uh were suffering, were going through and dealing with the condition, that um I found out that cannabis could be medicine for certain people in certain instances. So we're gonna talk about that, we're gonna dive into that. Um it was a defining, it was definitely a defining moment in in cannabis history. You know, patients what they would do is they faced uh appetite loss, they faced pain, nausea, and fatigue. So long, long, long, as I said to you, long before there was like legalization, they were already ending and they were asking what could help. So um, we check out a normal article this week and it was talking about HIV and AIDS and the recent numbers and how, although, and I had this conversation with someone earlier, they you know, like it's because it's not at the forefront doesn't mean it's not affecting people. You know, you see commercials every day that help people deal with uh HIV and how you can suppress it to a point where it's non-detectable, but it's still a condition that folks have to live with. And I mean, I as I like I said, of a certain age, folks of a certain age, we remember, you know, how things were for certain people, how um it uh you know, it it affected millions and millions and millions of people. Um you know, some folks uh very, very directly, uh, and some folks indirectly. So we're gonna talk about that today. But according to normal, cannabis has been used to study and used and studied in people living with HIV and AIDS for a part uh for potential to stimulate their appetite, reduce nausea, manage pain, and produ and improve the quality of life. I think guys, I've said this many, many times before. Like uh you think that you know uh no medication, no medication is going to cure an individual. Let me say that again no medication cures your life. What those medications do is they improve the quality of your life, improve the quality of the conditions that you live with on a daily basis. So the improvement of the quality of life is what we're looking to do. Because when patients are when they're losing weight and and struggling to maintain nutrition, I said it many times before, another one man's munchie is another man's nutrition. So it's not just discomfort, it's it's it's survival, and that's survival. That's something that you know those individuals who deal with, and not only HIV and AIDS, and but individuals who have nausea or folks who have um certain uh they're they're using certain chemotherapies, you know, um and um that can cause you to not have an appetite, that can cause an individual to not want to um to consume. And again, as we said, food is life, so we have to make sure that we let folks know that uh life and food are connected. We are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong. And today's topic is a topic that a lot of folks don't talk about, but we here at the Cannabis Chronicles, we don't shy away from medical, we don't shy away from medicine because helping people is helping people. So, in the interest of helping folks, we uh we choose a topic and we talk about it, we research it and we break it down. And on Wednesday nights, you can come here and check us out from 9 to 10 p.m. on stereo, and then join us and follow us later on on the um hey, hello, hello, thank you for starting, thank you for following us. Um again, uh we are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bond, because uh, and long before legalization, people were asking what can help, and we are part of that. You know, we are part of that because we help folks answer questions. You know, we that's what we do here at the cannabis chronicles. I've said this many times. We um we had a recent situation here in the United States where we were in lockdown. We couldn't go out, we couldn't interact with other humans. Now, one of the things that I've said many, many times is cannabis is a participation sport. You know, I'm not going to uh you know, I'm not gonna smoke with somebody, I'm not gonna consume with somebody, and you know, we're not share the share the experience. So in in in in the but in the in that facts, um in that um in that instance, you know, you're sharing and you share your cannabis. I'm sorry, I had a text from Joe. So hopefully he will be popping on. He found me, so now hopefully he can find the show. But in the context of things, you know, individuals um have to understand that it's not improving of it's not healing, it's improving in its quality of life. So tonight we're gonna look this through four four aspects and look at it through business, culture, health, and potpourri. And uh before we begin, let's check out this uh bubble from Mrs. Killjoy.

SPEAKER_03

How'd your boy Dr. Killjoy? What's good with Sue was harmless? Palm was really get rid of hood. Hey bro, I'm on my girl's phone right now. Brother Bong, what's good? I know you see you in forever, bro. I ain't seen you in like almost a year, bro. How you been? How you doing? How you doing? How you been, bro? It's Killjoy. You know what I'm saying? Dr. Killjoy. 420.

SPEAKER_01

I was hoping that was.

SPEAKER_03

I got my PhD, I got my PhD and THC, you know what I'm saying? You know what it is, you know what it is. But yeah, I'm on my girl's phone, so don't look at me weird and shit, son. Don't look at me weird, you know what I'm saying? But it is what it is. Hodge Boy Dotter Killjoy. I'm listening, though. I'm in here. I'm in the building. I'm in the building, I'm in the building, I'm in the parking lot, I'm in here. Hodgeboy Dotter Killjoy. Smoke weed every day.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, what's up, my friend? How you doing? What's going on, bro? That is that is uh our friend uh uh uh uh Dr. Killjoy. Uh and uh hopefully he will pop on for a minute and check us out. And here goes Joseph. Joseph, JQ's in the house. All right, you found the show. So now I'm happy. I'm not I'm not happy, I'm not content until my friends find the show. So we are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bob, and uh we are going to talk about our uh this today's tweet, today's subject is HIV and AIDS um through business lens. The cannabis industry didn't start where it is today, it has evolved, and we have evolved in so many different ways. Before dispensaries, before billion-dollar markets, cannabis was used for patients with real needs. Um now uh I um as I said, like I said, this is a very personal, um personal door experience. Um I found out uh a friend of mine years ago was HIV positive, and he shared with myself, and he told me how he was afraid to tell his parents and how he wanted to, he needed help on doing so. So God rest his soul. We sat down and I wrote a play, and the play was called It Hit Home. And uh so today's show is dedicated to my good friend who's no longer with us, John M. Uh, and like I said, it's the stigma didn't start with cannabis, the stigma didn't start with HIV AIDS, the stigma didn't start with so many things, so many people. There's stigmas about uh people, there's stigmas about places, and there's stigmas about things. And one of the things that we do here at the Cannabis Chronicles is try to break those things down. So HIV and AIDS patients were among the first to bring cannabis into medical conversations. And it wasn't about profits at the time, it was about survival, it was about symptom relief, and it was about dignity. Um, like I said, my friend John M, uh, because like I said, I've been in the cannabis thing for a very, very long time. So my client base was everybody from A to Z, anybody, and everyone in between. And he happened to be one of my clients, and uh he ended up telling me how the cannabis was helping him when he wanted to eat, when he needed an appetite, and sometimes helping him when he was uncomfortable physically and had pain and different things like that. So I always made sure that, you know, I never charged John, you know, we never charged him for any of his bud. Uh and he was one of the people that uh inspired me, you know, like once I got involved with medical cannabis, even though he was he was gone, he was still one of those people who, you know, if if if I can help somebody today, then it's like helping him then and now. And uh, so you know, uh this is a long, this is a long relationship, this is a long uh uh thing with medical cannabis and um HIV and AIDS. You want to check out an article, a source article in Too Fast for Buds, explores how cannabis and HIV are both potential therapeutic tools and a complex medical discussion. So complexity of it is that again, there's so many symptoms associated with HIV and AIDS. There's so many symptoms and relief that comes from medical cannabis that it at least takes a at least is uh something to give a shot. Okay, we got the bubble. Let's see who's talking to us.

SPEAKER_03

Now, see, that's the that's the one and two of it right there. How's boy Dr. Killjoy? Now, see, AIDS and HIV is not like it was back in the 80s and 90s, you know what I'm saying? Even the 2000s, not even like that now. We in 2026, you know what I mean? And motherfucking the thing is that like you can go over here and uh take some pills that'll make you undetectable and start the spread. You know what I'm saying? Motherfuckers can be grimy and not tell nobody they got that shit. Pop some pills and be good. You know what I'm saying? I know it's not morally right, but you can if you want to. You could you could pull that shit off nowadays with the same shit they were giving Magic Johnson back in the day and shit. They're giving us to everybody now and shit. You know what I'm saying? So everybody's getting their shit now. It's the AIDS is not a death sentence anymore, it's not a death sentence anymore. It used to be a straight up and down, you know what I'm saying? You got that shit you've done so good, God bless your soul, God help you. But now, not so much, not so much, and just like the stigmatism for HIV is not there anymore, because who's talking about I mean, really, who's talking about it?

SPEAKER_01

But we we have to talk about it, Kiltor. We have to talk about it, Doc, because you put the nom, we put the nomaker doctor on our names. We say doctor, so we gotta share, you know, knowledge. I mean, this is this is this is uh, you know, I I don't, you know dig into a hat and pull out subjects or topics for the show. I just look at, you know, I look for things again, like I said, things that are close to me. This was one, HIV and age was one of the subjects, again, when it became part of the uh, what do you call it, the qualifying conditions in New York State, it was one of the things that because we had to do when it was when it was therapeutic relief and we were helping people with medical cannabis, we had to be able to articulate to people, you know, what it was and how it was. And um, and I'm not not just talking about I'm talking about all kinds of conditions, but being able to understand uh what you're reading, being able to articulate to a patient and help them understand. And so that's the key. I think that's one of the things that, you know, um we didn't understand, you know, because again, I say this many, many times. Cannabis is about community. You know, shout out to Legacy United Community, shout out to Vaughn. Uh I was talking about my friend, I was talking about my friend Vaughn. I didn't say his name, but shout out to Vaughn. Uh, man, you really, really appreciate you, man, throughout throughout the years we are trans. Um, so you know, we um we have to take sure, we have to make sure that the key takeaway from this, and as cannabis becomes mainstream, that the that the industry carries the responsibility. It continues that responsibility. Not just, and I understand that yes, you could take a medication for it, but that doesn't mean it's gone. That doesn't mean it's gone, bro. That just means that there's something that is that it that is is helping with the condition. But what about what if something happened? What if that medication wasn't available? Again, we can't, we we're doomed to we're doomed to make the same mistakes of the past if we don't understand what's going on. And again, I look at this as a double-edged thing because it is uh both of they're both stigmas. You know, the stigma about cannabis, the stigma about uh HIV and AIDS, they're all um it's intertwined because again, it was underground. Like those folks weren't able to go to the hospital and get relief. Those folks had to go and see the folks in their community, their loved ones. And we had to help those people when it was a death sentence, when you didn't want to talk about it. And just because we're at a phase now that you it's it's undetectable don't mean we can't talk about it. We are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bond. We are weekly Canada Cannabis Community Conversation. Our topic today is HIV and AIDS, and how we as a community have evolved, how we have community, how the community now embraces cannabis as a medicine, and how for me it already was a medicine back in the day. And this is where it happens, bro. This is where happens, folks, this is where happens, where business meets responsibility. Speaking of business, um, big shout out to our friends from uh Best Buds magazine. Shout out to DC and his team, all the way down there in Atlanta. Happy belated birthday. He had a birthday, big 5-0. Shout out to him on the Big 5-0 birthday to DC. And he was living it up, got the chance to check out some really cool photos on his social media. If you want to check them out, you can check them out at bestbudsmagazine.com. That's best B-E-S-T B-U-D-Z magazine.com. And you can actually check out the uh, if you check that out, you will be able to see um uh you'll be able to see some older uh videos that that was when I was doing the vlog on uh Instagram live. And we were able to uh that's when we started you know doing our thing with the uh with with Best Buds. And uh they were they were kind enough to uh upload my vlog to the magazine. So get a chance to check out Dr. Bong if you can see the avatar, but if you want to see uh the old studio and my idea of what I thought was cool, you can check that out. All right, Canada Fam, let's take another puff of perspective. We are the Cannabis Chronicles. I'm your boy Dr. Bong. And uh segment two, we're gonna talk about culture. Now, see, as I said, I go back to, I go back in the day when certain things uh, you know, you know, like I said, you know, we are the um, my generation was the uh, what do you call that? The um the TV dinner generation. You know, um I don't remember a day without TV dinners or quick dinners and stuff. So those things are part of my uh generation. And like I said, I mean, you know, good things and bad things. Like I remember when the the Challenger exploded. I also remember when uh Hank Aaron broke Babe Roos record. And I remember when John Lennon got shot, and I remember when, you know, uh some cool 80s stuff happened. I remember when I saw Prince open up for Rick James back in the day. So, you know, I have a perspective on things, and so I can definitely talk about how this has affected my culture, our culture. So it's a force, it and and and what it's done is the conversation is it's it's been forced to have. It's been around healthcare access, it's been around the stigma, it's been around our communities, and it's been around advocacy, because without healthcare access, those people were, it was a death sentence. It was uh and it wasn't sometimes many times a very pleasant experience. The stigma around it, because again, once we once you know we stop pointing fingers, and once we stop um uh blaming folks and trying to get out of the way of certain things and just facing it head on, not just as an individual, but as a society. And time and time and time again, I've said this about cancer. I know, I know there's a child out there in in the United States, in the world, that has the that has the the the um the the the the equation to figure Out, but we don't embrace, and this is my opinion, and again, we are the Cannabis Chronicles. I'm Dr. Bong, I'm not a doctor, I'm not your doctor, and my opinions are my own, and everybody knows everybody has opinions and they all stick. But my opinion in the American educational system is this is that it's flip-flopped, is that you kind of try to shuttle every kid into a certain pigeonhole. You're trying to put round pegs in square holes. Now, my whole thing was let's find the round pegs kids, let's find the square peg kids, let's find the rectangular square kids and and encourage them to be a rectangle, to be a circle, to be the square. So my thing is this, is that when a child, and I have a I'm a father, I'm a grandfather, I've seen children grow up and I've seen how you know their interests grow and how they become these individuals and their brains are like sponges. It's true. So my whole thing was that, you know, if we interest, if you we got children interested in certain things earlier in life, guys, earlier in life, and not just say, you know, this, this, this, and this, you got to do these 12 years of school, and if you don't do it this way or our way, then you're you're bad and you're you get rejected, and just just so limiting, so limiting. So again, I feel the same thing about about any sickness, about cancer, about HIV and AIDS. I think that there's somebody out there that has the equation, they just haven't been able to unlock it. And again, shout out to our friends from uh, excuse me, Sage Genetics, shout out to um uh, excuse me, geez, oh man, I'm I'm flying through this one, excuse me, guys. Shout out to JT and his team. Uh, we are enjoying this week's uh offering uh that we are enjoying here. Uh not in the this not in the studio, we don't smoke in the studio, but we were smoking and consuming earlier, and we were consuming a very, very, very good friend of mine, Gorilla Glue number four. Thank you so much, Sage Genetics, for introducing me to that good friend. All right, Canada Family, let's go and take that puff of a perspective. Um, we're gonna talk about culture. Um, patients and advocates have pushed for access to cannabis when options were limited. They did. I I can honestly tell you on the front lines, as a uh as a cannabis supplier, um, I supplied at least one. I talk about this one particular person who you know used uh their cannabis, my cannabis, the cannabis that we sold them for their medicine. And we got a couple uh we got a couple bubbles, so let's see what's best going on. Jeff, how can I talk to you? And then Mrs. Johnson. Okay, I didn't know for much talk to bring on it.

SPEAKER_03

Now I'm not gonna get political on you or whatever, but I'm gonna say this. In the political landscape of life today and such, you know what I'm saying, kids nowadays don't get the freedoms that they used to have. You know what I'm saying? Like the last five years, shit's gotten a lot tighter. You know what I'm saying? You can't say what you want to say, do what you want to do, say talk to you want to talk to without some caring or someone saying, I don't want you teaching that to my child, and saying that you can't teach to any of the kids. There was a biology teacher that just went to jail. A biology teacher that went to jail because he had pictures of biology shit, like like you know saying body parts and shit like that, there and shit like that, that biology shit. They put that man in jail because of it. They let him out and his fucking reputation is ruined because of it. But again, this is the time we live in. This is the time we're living in, bro. Can't do what you want to do.

SPEAKER_01

I'm going to, I'm going to, I understand. I totally understand your point. I understand your point, Dr. Killjoy. And you're absolutely right. But that don't make it that that doesn't make it right because we live in those times. I um, you know, I ain't burning no books. I love books. You know, I'm not going to suppress any information. I'm not going to think that my opinion, that my understanding, that my grasp of anything is better than anyone else's. And so, like I said, I just put the information out there. Like I know that people, um, and and this is why I talk about, this is why the show is the called the Cannabis Chronicles. This is why I do the show. Because I'm not talking about speculation. I'm not reading in the book. I'm not talking about something that I read on the internet or anything like that. This is this is something that I do that I've done every day. And I'm excuse me, y'all. I'll be I've doing this for 10 years. 10 years. We are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bomb. We got another bubble. Let's check it out.

SPEAKER_02

Yo, um, I have a lot to say, but I don't know how to do this. Can someone tell me how to say something?

SPEAKER_01

All right, Joseph, I got you, bro. I'm gonna add you to the show right now, okay? Adding you to the talk, and I'm following you back. And it's calling you now, so pick up your phone. All right, we are the cannabis chronicles, and we're joined by our friend, the one and only JQ. What's up, JQ? You said you got something to say, talk to me. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, no, I can hear you. Damn, now I was all lost because it w it was way back with the HIV story. But you you know what? Um, when you go back to the HIV and the era of uh you know, drugs. Come here, bro, talk, talk! Okay, I'm I'm I'm not messing up on you. Okay. Um push um You know, we're talking about cannabis, the chronicles. And um, but there was a lot of other a lot of a lot of other shit on the street, like the Quainlow, Quainlu era.

SPEAKER_01

The lemons, the lemons, and not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going there. Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me nice, you know you're my boy. But I'm just saying, cuz because I I don't want to go off because we only got a limited amount of time. That if if it it's and maybe you didn't hear what I was talking about because you're trying to search for the show. But the today's show is about HIV and AIDS and how the stigma for HIV and AIDS and cannabis, the stigma for cannabis, have have really a correlation, you know, have really uh have really been there because to be honest with you, from the very beginning of the HIV crisis, and like I said earlier, I as an individual who has been, you know, selling the cannabis for a very long time, have many patients, friends who were HIV positive, and this one particular person who I was actually uh referring to on the show actually expressed to me how cannabis helped him um with his appetite, with his pain, and with his um with the improvement of the quality of the city.

SPEAKER_02

I heard a lot about that. I heard a lot of people say that helped them with the appetite. Because I had a a good friend, I mean uh a brother, and um he had the HIV. And you know, he but that comes hepatitis B. So, you know, hepatitis B very contagious, so I went and got the vaccine so I could be around him to to protect myself because we couldn't stop loving those people. And you know, a lot of people you know were afraid to be around those people at one time you know, before the edge education came out, I guess. That's what I was talking about earlier. Yeah, it was a hard time in the beginning because people were afraid of the unknown. But like somebody think, oh yo your strangle. Somebody said it said it right. You know, it's under it's pretty much under control with the pills. But they got like you said, the appetite. All medications kill our appetite. So they need to push the medical cannabis to those those pills that kill the appetite to give those people appetite. Because I was down to 112 pounds. I did a few changes with with your advice, the one-to-one. And um, I'm 140 pounds now, I gained 28 pounds.

SPEAKER_01

That's what's up, that's what's up. Uh we have a bubble. Let's let's listen to the bubble real quick, and we'll we'll circle back. We are the cannabis chronicles. Uh I'm joined tonight by my boy JQ, and we're sharing our experiences with our friends and loved ones, and we're talking about the subject HIV and AIDS.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know if you remember, brother, but if you remember, I have MS, multiple sclerosis, and the greens help me every single freaking day. If it wasn't for the greens, I don't I don't know if I'd be on this conversation right now with you, right now. You know what I'm saying? It's the greens that kept me that keeps me physically able to maintain the pain. You know what I'm saying? My legs, my arms, you know what I'm saying, parts of my body are shutting down piece by piece. And if it wasn't for the green to ease the mo the pain of the neuropathy in my legs, you know what I'm saying, I would be crying literally 24, 7, 7 days a week. I'm not even co I'm not even capping on that. And the thing is that I'm I'm I'm walking proof that cannabis does help. It helps. It helps. I used to have seizures. I don't have seizures anymore because I stay smoking. Stay smoking. You know what I'm saying? They put me on depicotes, they put me on all these other anti-seizure medicines, but the only thing that really helped me was the green.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, and I hopefully I was, I think we had that conversation, bro, when I and you had the conversation too, Joseph. We had the because like I the green for me, like a lot of people come into it thinking about it's all about getting high. It's all about the high, the high, the high, the high, the high. But it's not, you know, for me, it's about the relief, the relief, the relief. And when you introduce CBD to a product, as you know, Joe, uh, it does, it levels out the psychotropic. So you don't have the so-called uh high that you would have if it was strictly a THC product. So I I believe Dr. Killjoy, uh, he I think I believe I made that recommendation. I'm not sure, but we've we like he said, we've had a long, long friendship on this space. And I immediately when um when I hopped back on the platform, I um I wanted to make sure that I reached out to certain people, and you truly, my friend, are one of them. I'm so glad you came on. I'm so glad you popped back up because as I said, man, you're such an entertaining man. We have such positive conversations, and I do I knew it was a matter of time. I don't know if you noticed, but ever since I came back on the air, bro, I've been hitting you up. We are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong, and I am so pleased to be joined by all of my friends here. JQ, say what's up to everybody. What's up, everybody? How you doing? All right, all right. JQ is a friend of mine, also uh, I guess you could say, I'm not a doctor. Again, I guess I'm gonna say this, I'm not a doctor, but I am a consultant, and Joseph is one of the people that I've consulted. And he's saying how to do it. By the way, thank you. And he has said that um, you know, his increasing of certain cannabis ratios helps him to increase weight. And one of the things we're talking about with HIV and AIDS is that appetite, people lose their appetite. But Joseph also stated that um all kinds of people lose their appetites for all kinds of different reasons. So it's not just about HIV and AIDS. So we are uh definitely uh enhanced and learning from your uh experience. Listen, if you have something to say, if you know somebody, if you have a question about cannabis, please feel free to reach out to us, leave a bubble, and let us know. Just please remember to talk nice to us. We are the cannabis chronicles. Communities had to come together to support each other because there were no there, and Joseph can tell you this, there was no support out there. And our spirit still lives on in the cannabis culture today. We are sharing, we are friends, we are a community. Um, and speaking of friends, we want to shout out to friends of our show, the Canadaware Society. Speaking of the Canada Society, we'll get to that bubble after this, the uh the commercial part. Speaking of Canada Society, we have an event coming up in October. Um, and if you want to get involved and be heads-on and be boots on the ground and join the platoon, and I mean, like literally, you can join Canada Society, you get involved with the um Canadaware United Network. Like, you find out so much stuff, and you can check them out at Canadaware.org. That's C-A-N-N-A-W-A-R-E dot org. So become those boots on the ground. So shout out to Grizz, Abe, Sam, Starr, and Nori. Real life, activism, education, and connections. Can of your society. Also, shout out to our friends uh Justin at Chill Pipes. I am Dr. Bong, but one of my favorite bongs I got from our friend Justin at Chill Pipes, and her name is Ebony, and she is a jet uh excuse me, she's a Matt Black Bong. Um and uh so we shout her out. But uh Joseph, do you do bongs? No, have you ever done bongs? You are the dab king, right? You love dabs now, right? No, no, the dab machine, you got me. Yeah, and uh what was it is it the dab pen? Yeah. Okay. We are the cannabis chronicles chopping it up about our favorite subject cannabis. We got a couple bubbles, here we go.

SPEAKER_04

Tick, tick, tick. Uh-oh. Heli Tutor is in the building. That's right. The founder of Clean Talk for Clean Folks is here. And it's your turn, Bong and Kionis, to speak with a Heli Tutor. Well, one subject at a time, cannabis chronicles versus HIV AIDS. Cannabis is still a Schedule I controlled substance in this country. So all of your conversation and all of your worthiness that you believe is legitimate is not. You're not legally allowed in any state in any territory in this country to have, hold, possess, grow, transport, gift wrap, lick on, sit on, or even have a piece of anything related to cannabis. Right? So it doesn't make any difference what you think of it, or I think of it. You wind up in prison, huh? And so be it. So no doubt that someone is going to say, well, you know, my state says it's legal. Your state legislatures are felons, guilty of sedition, oath violation, drug dealing, and RICO. Why? Because they're not allowed. No state legislature, legislator is allowed to take federal law home and pick out what he wants, enforce what he wants, and and and uh uh file 13 the other. You're not allowed to do that. Every state legislature, every judge and every peace officer in this country is sworn to first uphold the United States Constitution, right? And secondly, their state constitution. Your United States Constitution has a supremacy clause. It's very clear, and it is a single sentence. Should I read it?

SPEAKER_01

Hey, listen, uh brother Hellate Hilitator, whatever you want to call her. Uh, listen, I everybody's entitled to their opinion. I get it, uh, and I get that you feel that way, but just like you feel the way you feel, uh I can feel the way I feel. But what I'm gonna come at you is with I'm gonna say my state legislature. I'm not gonna say my state legislature, bro. I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell you that I've helped hundreds of people with this medication called cannabis. So I don't care whether they have seizures, I don't care whether they had chronic pain, I don't care whether they had HIV or AIDS, I don't care if they had uh IBS, IBC, or IBD or ABC D E H G H I J K L M O P. I'm gonna help people because before I got involved with cannabis, I was a healthcare professional. Until the day I draw my last breath, I will be a healthcare professional. It just so happens that my healthcare profession has put me in this space. So, as I said to Joseph earlier today, and he could attest to this, there were some things in our society that weren't didn't start out to be a positive thing. Do your research. Did you know that x-ray was not a good thing? So if you had an x-ray, it didn't start out as a good thing, it started out as a weapon. Also, chemotherapy, weapon, could be weaponized. So, you know, I ain't never heard of cannabis killing nobody. I ain't never heard of cannabis hurting nobody. So as long as I don't hurt or kill nobody with this, I'm gonna keep on doing what I keep on doing. We already cannabis cards, we got a bubble. What's up? Oh, here we go. Let's see what you gotta say.

SPEAKER_04

No bong. I don't feel anything. I'm a man, I don't deal in feelings. This is a country that's bound by laws, and those laws are clear. Have you read the Supremacy Clause? It is a single run-on sentence. It basically says that the supreme, that this constitution is the supreme law of the land, along with any federal laws attached thereto that are and shall be made, along with any treatises with other countries. And all judges are bound by it. Any state constitution laws or laws notwithstanding, right? So anything you say at the state level or the constitution of your state is notwithstanding. You don't have the right to countermand or countervene the United States uh Constitution. That's not my feeling. You can read that for yourself. It's Article 6, paragraph 2.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, so it ain't your feelings. Excuse me, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but uh we're gonna open this one up, y'all. We got we're gonna open this one up. Are you kidding me, bro? Are you dead ass kidding me? Are you sitting here talking to me about constitution this, about statute that, when you have a convicted felon as your president who has no idea? Do you have any idea? I am a learned man, sir. I am a veteran, I am a 10-year veteran in this medical cannabis thing. I spent 15 years helping other people. And as I said to you before, you can spout all you want. You can talk all the words you want, you can spout the books, you can pile them up. But guess what? I'm helping people. So if I help one people, one person, one people, I'm just I act like I can't speak. I help one person that's worth a 10,000 of your statutes about whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's all fucking Mr. Excuse me, I mean the curse at you, excuse me, brother. It all sounds like Charlie Brown and his mama. We got another bubble.

SPEAKER_03

There's always been change in American and world society. Laws change through time, hell tutor. I'm not even gonna call you hella tutor, I'm gonna call you hella hater because you are hella hating right now. Hot boy dotter killjoy. Look here. I'm gonna say it like this, bro. Laws change through time. People change the laws. The society changes, and the laws change with society. You say, oh, there's no alleged, it's it's illegal, it's illegal, it's illegal. It was once illegal for a black man to read. You want us to go back to those days?

SPEAKER_01

Prix.

SPEAKER_03

You want to go back to those days where it was illegal for a black man to learn how to read. You better tell us. You know what I'm saying? Those were the laws that the man put up in front. Why do you think they put the laws against weed and the cannabis in the first place? In the first place. Racially tra racially motivated, period. No money, no situation, and and and and the and the uh and the uh guy who's behind it all, his cousin.

SPEAKER_01

He just dropped a mic on you. He just dropped a mic on you. What uh uh, we got a debate going back and forth. We are the cannabis chronicles. I am your boy, Dr. Bong, and we are weekly Candid Cannabis Community Conversation. Our topic today is HIV and AIDS, but we have an interesting bubble conversation going on between hella hate. Hello Tutor and uh you said that Joseph, not me, and my boy, uh the one and only professor, the one and only Dr. Killjoy. What you gotta say?

SPEAKER_04

So I've got legislators, judges, peace officers, and attorneys in my family. But none of that gives me permission to go outside and smoke weed. You can be a veteran, you can be a pilot. I trained helicopter pilots for 17 and a half years. I'm a learned man. I've got three degrees. Check my bio, right? None of that allows me to have holder possessed cannabis. Why? Because the law says so, right? And if you think you can go around the law, then go ahead. I'll see you in a prison. Have your bond money ready. Just a matter of time.

SPEAKER_02

So why don't I have a license? Why do I have a license for it?

SPEAKER_01

Listen, I listen, bro. Like I said, I why are we entertaining? First of all, I don't even know. First of all, hella, hella tutor, where you are? Where are you? Are you in New York? Are you in Alabama? Are you in California? Where are you? Because if you're not in New York, then you don't have you can't even say nothing to me because you don't even know what my life is like. You don't even know what life is like in a medical cannabis state. I can go out right now and smoke. And Joseph and I can meet in our greenway right now. We live in the same damn development and smoke in front of the police because it's legal. So it's legal in the state, yes. And you're absolutely right about federal. But do your research because it's about to change from one to three. But that doesn't do much anything because, as far as I'm concerned, it should be legal anyway. So it shouldn't have a it shouldn't be a schedule. We got another bubble, but I bet you it's Hella Tudor, just to say something else. We're the cannabis chronicles.

SPEAKER_04

I'm in Houston, Texas, and I have property in Brooklyn and property in Georgia. And we have a hangar in uh California. Any other questions?

SPEAKER_01

Hey bro, I'm not coming at you. I'm just I'm just saying that everybody's entitled to their opinion. I'm so proud of you. I'm so thankful that you had the opportunity and you took the time to come and join us on our show today. I no longer need to debate you because you're in Texas, so you obviously don't know what it's like to be in a medical state. And obviously you haven't done your research because if you did, you see that cannabis helps people every day, and that's the most important thing. And if you have another bubble, I'm not gonna debate with you anymore. This is your last bubble.

SPEAKER_04

It's about to change, it's gonna change, and I did it in front of the police. None of that makes any difference. All right, illegal agents thought they could get away with stuff, and he did for years, and then finally the bill come due. I'm gonna send you a receipt in the back chat so you can look the law up for yourself. At the moment, right now, right this moment, it is a schedule one controlled substance, and you can do many, many years in prison for have whole, possessed, grow, transport, any of that. Don't believe the heli tutor. Look it up.

SPEAKER_01

Bro, I know this. I already brought I already Hella Tutor, I already know this. If you listen to the early part of the show, I have been in this medi, I have been in this cannabis game since before I had a deep voice. Since before this voice was a deep baritone voice.

SPEAKER_02

I have I'm uh I gotta crash on this.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just thankful. Thank you for sharing, thank you for sharing your information. Thank you for sharing your time. All I want to do is help people. I don't want to hold people back. And if helping people is wrong and helping improve their quality of life, ask Joseph. Ask Joseph. I helped him improve the quality of his life. Ask Professor Waffles, ask D. Nice how many people he's helped. Ask Yanni or Maria Ma. We help people, sir. So you're right. But the people who are smarter than I have passed the laws that allow us to do what I do. So as long as I'm still allowed to do what I do, I'm gonna do what I do. So you have a nice day. We are the cannabis chronicles. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong. And HIV affects the immune system, and many patients experience appetite loss, chronic pain, nausea, and fatigue. Now, a source uh article in the uh normal, according to the normal cannabis can be studied for appetite stimulation, pain management, nausea reduction, and quality of life. So you can check out the CRX magazine, the article of CRX Magazine highlights how cannabis use in HIV-related conditions for wasting syndrome, neuropathic pain, medication side effects, and appetite suppression. So, because when the body is losing weight, it's survival. Cannabis is not a cure for HIV or AIDS, it plays a role in symptom management, patient care, and quality of life. Shout out to the friends of the show, Living Soil MDV. They have an event coming up this week, three days from now, on the 11th. If you're in Rochester, New York, check out Living Soil and their event coming on. Also, shout out to Justin and his BuzzFeed Weekly team. If you want to find out information, all kinds of information about cannabis and all kinds of stuff, check them out at BuzzFeed Buzzfeedweekly.com. Two more bubbles. Please don't talk. And please talk nice.

SPEAKER_02

Can I say one? Do you hear me?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, say something, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Side effects. Ain't no side effects. Talk about that. Talk about what the purchase of icodone and morphine and bag and Xanax. Take that for 25 years and you're dead. Smoke 20 for 25 years, you're good. Let him answer a bubble, please. Let bubble head ass a bubble. Please.

SPEAKER_01

Well, there's a there's a bubble here, so let's see what Miss Child got to say. Or should I say, my boy?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so we keep on talking about how it's legal now. It's legal now. Now it's illegal. It's illegal. In certain states, you're right, it is illegal. In Texas, whoo! But people still do it. Why is the majority of your people and my people still smoke weed if it's such a bad thing? It's not like alcohol. Alcohol kills. Alcohol sends you to the prison, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No alcohol doesn't send you to prison unless you do some stupid shit. You can drink chocolate as much as you want, but that's legal. Why? Because of the money. Because the money. We had to go through prohibition and all that crap, crap, crap. They held on to the money, they got to situated, and then they did what they did and turned around prohibition. Now, soon enough, the prohibition on freaking marijuana is gonna be completely turned around. It's gonna be a schedule three, it's gonna be like Tylenol. And what are you gonna say then? What are you what are all these years of you beating down the bush gonna mean then? Nothing.

SPEAKER_04

Because then it's gonna be legal and everybody's gonna Have you followed the case with Deja Taylor in Virginia? A recent inductee in one of the 26 or so states that claimed to have jurisprudence over cannabis independent of the federal government. They created the thing called the Virginia Cannabis Control Authority. This dope fiend of a woman went and bought a gun, lied on the uh federal application to get it, she left it on the dresser, loaded, uh, and the six-year-old climbed the dresser, got the gun, took it to school, and showed it to his friends, and then pulled it out and shot his first grade teacher through her left hand in the upper part of her chest, a order. She almost died. That woman is in federal prison right now. And contributory to all of this is the legislators of Virginia who decided to obfuscate and defy federal law. And they flooded the state with cannabis. Huh?

SPEAKER_02

Yo, this dude is from another world, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, listen, we are not going to listen, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know why. I don't know. I don't know if it's from Texas or the Mars.

SPEAKER_01

But the beautiful thing, bro, is that he can have that opinion, and it's okay. I'm not you know, I'm not mad at him, and then listen, you're absolutely right. He's absolutely right. All of your points are right. There's nothing wrong with what he's saying, but at the end of the day, he's in Texas, we're in New York, so it's a total different ballgame. Another bubble. I know a lot of people in Texas.

SPEAKER_04

Right? And you could be correct about some of these medical issues. That's not my job, right? That's something that's to be handled with scientists and medical professionals, right? With these special committees that decide what the law is. At the moment, the law has been decided at the federal level. And no one, not you, not me, not my mom, not your mom, can make a barbecue plate and make a decision to go around federal law. So right now, we put people in prison for doing that. We had a couple people try to open up some um dispensaries here in Texas. They were raided and beat down and burned to the ground. And everybody involved is either in prison or headed that away. It's not a joke, guys. You can believe all you want, you can follow these false prophets all you want. Some of the things they say may be true, but it matters not because it's unlawful at the federal level. That's the end of the conversation.

SPEAKER_03

Bro, what does that have to do with cannabis? A little kid takes a gun to school and you're gonna brain the weed? What the cannabis? Uh-mm. Uh-mm. I don't even know. I don't hell too, you lost me, bro. You got how how you gonna blame. That's like saying, that's like saying, okay, okay. Um, I went over here and I cheated on my wife. You know what I'm saying? But you know why I cheat on my wife? Because of the weed. No, bro, if you're gonna cheat on your wife, you're gonna cheat on your wife anyway. That's that that has more than for weed than than some kids shooting his teacher. That has nothing to do with weed. So why are we bringing this? Man, stop yourself, Heli. Stop yourself. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

Not my opinion, Bong. Deja Taylor is in federal prison. Don't believe the Helix would have looked up. I followed the whole case, huh? The whole case. She's in Virginia in New York. What do you think? And the one who got shot won a ten million dollar award against the uh the woman, the vice principal, and that sat there and let it happen, right? And the uh school district, ten million dollars. So whatever. It's ruining lives in its weight.

SPEAKER_01

You know how many people, those children do not go to school, do not do stupid stuff. So let's face it, okay. That woman did something stupid. She was a bad gun owner. I said, I'm a veteran. I know people who own guns. My father owns guns. My brother owns guns. My best friend's son owns guns. My best friend's father owns guns and they own them responsible. They lock them up, they don't leave them on a dresser. So don't please don't, please, please, please, please, please don't lump my beautiful cannabis community with something that one stupid, stupid person did. And you know what? I'm so sorry that that person, that teacher got injured. I'm so sorry that that teacher did that. But I just want to say that it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that cannabis helps people medically. We got another bubble, we got somebody different. Let's see what's going on.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, shout out to the panel, shout out to the room. I am cackling a hella tutor. Wow. My kids tried to teach here at school because I got high. What the hell?

SPEAKER_01

That was funny.

SPEAKER_04

So if you don't know the case about Deja Taylor, one of the questions on the Federal Register, and she was arrested just months earlier, ran into a back of a bunch of cars, a car was flooded with weed and edibles, and the child at the time was four and a half months old in a chair. They should have taken the child in. But at that moment, Virginia was at the cusp of creating the Virginia Cannabis Control Authority. And the peace officers were told not to arrest people for that. She arrested her for DUI, but not for the weed. Right? So the weed is a contributory factor in that it is one of the questions on the federal, the federal questionnaire to purchase a firearm. She lied on that questionnaire to get the firearm. So that's why the firearm was there. Because she's a dope fiend and a liar, and that's why the child got the gun, and that's why the 25-year-old first grade teacher was shot. Pay attention.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, Blood, you can't, you can't. Did this motherfucker Yo? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, folks. I did not mean to lose composure. Did you just come on my show and tell me to pay attention? Again, you came on my show, sir. I didn't come in your space. I don't even know who the hella tutor you are. All I'm saying to you is everything you said is valid. But why are you pushing this case? This woman is in Virginia, has no medical cannabis program. You live in Texas, you have no medical cannabis program, but yet you're talking about something that you don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're talking about, Halitator. And it's okay because this isn't your lane. I'm not going to talk to you about statutes. I'm not going to talk to you about things that have to do with law. I'm going to talk to you about medical cannabis. And I got a hundred people. I can at least bring 10 of them on the show and tell you that I've helped them. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong, man. It has been a pleasure to be part of your lives for this hour. This has been the best show of the new season. We are season five, hella tater, hela tutor, hella hater, whatever they want to call you. Come and check out, you want to check out something, check out my resume because this is what I do. I help people and I want to help you. And you know, when Texas gets their medical cannabis, uh, get their medical cannabis program, you call me and I'll help you. Cannabis is more than a product, it's a story. It's where cannabis shifted from stigma to a necessity. I remember what it was like when I worked in cannabis when we were locked down and we were considered to be an essential program. Essential. It's essential to people. So, an article from marijuana moment reports three and four Americans say cannabis is not a red flag in dating. So if you meet somebody and they smoke, it's okay. Once was hidden, it's now part of everyday life. From secrecy to social acceptance. Shout out to Big Gas Dispensary, shout out to Big Gas Worldwide, shout out to Penn Game Publishing. All right, Canafam, let's take another perspective. Our cultivar spotlight this week is Northern Lights. The profile is relaxing body focused associated with appetite and rest. An article from marijuana biz highlights how cannabis has evolved from medical-focused cultivars to modern trend delivered-driven genetics. But before it was hype, it was function. I'm Dr. Bong. Comfort when the body needs it most. HIV and AIDS is not just a condition, it's a chapter in cannabis history. It's a chapter in American history. It reminds us cannabis wasn't always accepted, but it was always used. This is the cannabis chronicles. I'm Dr. Bong. Stay informed, stay intentional, stay lifted responsibly. Joseph, you want to say anything to anybody?

SPEAKER_02

Yo, it was a great show. I can't wait for the next week. Hello Factor, do some research and enjoy us.

SPEAKER_01

We appreciate you, Joseph. We're gonna play these bubbles and we're gonna play them out. Hello, Tutor. Please don't try to sell me. Don't go anywhere with Joseph. You stay.

SPEAKER_04

If you smoke cannabis, you're not allowed to own, buy, purchase, or apply to do any of that with respect to guns. Don't believe me. Look at the federal law. She lied about her status, huh? And she got a gun, and that's what led to the son getting the gun. But your killjoy little friend there, he didn't get it. He just did just missed the whole point. Oh God.

SPEAKER_03

Why are you here, hella tutor? Why are you here, hella hater? What's going on here, bro? I don't understand this. You see the topic is weed. We see we're talking about cannabis in America and the world. And we're talking about HIV and such like that there in AIDS and how it helps people out. The weed helps people out that has it. We're talking about some real shit. But here you go about ah, there's this woman on that that lied. She lied. She's a liar. She's a liar. So what? I don't give a damn about that woman in there lying. They ain't got shit to do with weed. What you mean? What you mean? Stop hating hella tutor. Stop hating hella hater. Go somewhere with yourself, bro. Go go read a book or something. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not talking to you, Bong. I was talking to the person who said he I was lost and that the weed had nothing to do with the gun. You're not paying attention because I was responding to someone who was jabbing at me. Huh? So again, and this is not your show, you don't own anything here. This is a public place. If you don't believe me, look in chapter 10.1 of your terms of service. It is clear, yet again, and every last one of us affirmed that to get into this public space.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. Well, I tell you what, I have had a wonderful show. I uh thank you, Joseph, for being here. Thank you, Dr. Killjoy. Thank you, Yo-Yo. Thank you, Hella Tutor. I appreciate the tutoring that you attempted today. I'm your boy, Dr. Bong, and always remember cannabis is medicine. Good night, friends. Good night, stoners. Good night, fan candy fam.