(EN) Maria Krebs on Storytelling, Disney, and Connection

In this episode of BrightBond, Patrick Duriaux speaks with Maria Krebs about the power of storytelling to create real human connection.

Maria is a former professional tennis player who later built a career in finance and banking, and today works in the film industry with Disney. Across these very different worlds, one passion has remained constant: her love of movies.

Together, Patrick and Maria explore how stories can create belonging, spark hope, and bring people together across generations. From childhood memories and Disney films to resilience, shared emotions, and the simple magic of watching a movie with someone you care about, this conversation is a reminder that stories do far more than entertain us — they connect us.

This episode is about belonging, hope, resilience, family, shared memories, and the unique way stories can bring people closer — from children to seniors.

A warm and uplifting conversation about why one story can sometimes open the door to laughter, understanding, and connection.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Hello, hello, hello, and a warm welcome to Brightbond, the podcast about real human connections across generation, cultures, and everyday life, anywhere and everywhere. I'm Patrick Duriot, and here we share real conversations that leave you with practical ideas to create more connection. I'm very excited because today we're going to speak about a topic which use our imagination, a story that brings people together. Because sometimes the farthest way to reconnect isn't through facts or advice. It's actually through a story. A shared film or childhood memory or a character we love. Stories can create belonging in seconds and bridge generations in a way nothing else can. Today we're exploring connection through storytelling on the world of Disney and how stories can help families, friends, and even strangers feel closer. And to speak about this great topic today, I'm very happy to welcome Maria Krebs. Maria is a former professional tennis player who later built a career in finance and banking, and today works in the film industry with Disney. Through all those chapters, sport, corporate life, and storytelling, one passion has stayed constant with Maria. Movies. She loves them since she was a child. And she brings beautiful perspective on how stories can create belonging, spark hope, and bring people together. Maria, it's a great pleasure to have you here and have your expertise as a professional with Disney. And uh welcome to Brightmond.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Thank you so much, Patrick, and also thank you for having me. I'm really looking forward for this podcast with you. Um, it's a very interesting thing that you do, and it's just beautiful, and we have something in common, you know, connecting peoples. The movie industry is just about connecting peoples through stories, and um yeah, I'm looking forward for what's coming.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Wonderful, wonderful. And we both uh have another point in common. We love uh movies, so that's uh great we can talk about it today together.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Great. So let me uh maybe start with some warm-up questions to warm up the voice. Uh, if I can ask you, how old are you and where are you based, Maria?

SPEAKER_01 3:46

I'm 35 years old and I'm based in Zurich. I have uh been born in Zurich and I grew up here. So it's my hometown.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

Okay, wonderful, very nice. And also, I like to always start the Brightbond uh podcast in a positive note. I would like to ask you what brings you positive energy at the moment?

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Sunlight.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

Okay, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

I think everyone in Switzerland has this uh in common. Sun is so important, you know. And you know, as soon as the sun comes out, people are going out and they're connecting with friends and they're celebrating and so on. But yeah, for sure, for me, for myself, sun at the moment is extremely important and it gives me energy.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

So nice. Yeah, I can understand. And you have also a nice background with sunlight at the back. Yes, I mean it's very nice.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

So beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Yes, exactly. Beautiful, that's right. Exactly. No, that's nice, and I'm very excited because, of course, um I spoke already sometimes with friends about films, but it's also nice to uh have uh the opportunity to speak with someone who is uh in the film industry. I think our listeners will be also very happy to discover a bit more that worlds from you eyes. So I wanted to ask you uh maybe as a first question uh is that maybe uh a Disney moment, a film um that's really represents the feeling of belonging for you and why?

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Um yeah, there are several, several, but uh one that is really um an important one would I would say is um not important, I'd say um one that I can point to is uh Inside Out and Inside Out 2, which was recently in theaters, um, okay, about recently a few months ago, but still. Um and I always think it's so important to see how everyone goes through a certain phase. It's about growing up, you know, and having emotions and going through the poverty and everything everything that has to do with it. And of course, you know, as a young person, you have to deal with this experience, not knowing what's coming, where to, you know, sort those kind of emotions. And uh, it's a very beautiful movie, everyone should see, and yeah, that's one thing that I would say.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

Nice. What's the name of the movie?

SPEAKER_01 6:15

Inside Out. Inside Out, okay, great. Inside Out and Inside Out 2, actually.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Okay, I'm gonna run to the cinema next week. I think to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

But it was some months ago. Maybe on streaming right now.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Okay, I will watch it. It sounds very interesting and intriguing, and seems that you can relate with uh your own life with that movie, right?

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Yes, and everyone who sees it, because we see the things, you know, in the movie, and we just you know say, ah yeah, that's true. That's what happened to me, too, you know, and you immediately create some kind of connection. And all the people have the same connection, you know. It's like everyone's yeah, I have the same.

SPEAKER_03 6:58

That's a very interesting point. I was gonna ask you actually, in your standpoint, why do you think uh people, as you said in general, can really much uh have a belonging or really have a connection through stories? Why do you think stories create connection between people? Because you see a lot of people, of course, going to the theater. Uh, what is your point of view on that point?

SPEAKER_01 7:20

I believe uh when you go and watch a movie and you're interested in this movie because you have, I don't know, you have certain hobbies or you know, you you love certain topics or themes, you know, you go and watch a movie, and immediately the people who are there like the same things as you. Must not be, but could be, you know. And when you, for example, like the movie and you sit there in the cinema with 200 people and you have like with 200 people and you have the like the experience the same thing, two hours, movie, it just and you laugh together and you you you cry together, immediately you create some bonds, you know. I think those kind of things it's like when you experience something on a trip. If you go abroad and you're brand new in a new country, and you go together with a group of people, and your brain is experiencing things that are new, your brain uh releases oxycotine, you know, and this is known for connecting people. So at the end of the trip, you know, you're friends with some strangers, you know. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Yeah, no, no, you're right. It's very interesting. I think uh for me as well. Sometimes uh I still quote some of the film with some of my friends we've seen together. I mean, comics, for instance, or comedies, where we had a huge laughter about uh a sentence on the film or a scene on the film. Sometimes we still refer to that even 15 years later, right? So it's quite unbelievable. It's uh I think it's magical, to be honest with you, how that connects people, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Yeah, for I have a good example. I mean, you know, the movie Hangover. Everyone knows Hangover. This is just like a masterpiece of comedy, and everyone was laughing about that movie or in the movie, you know, and everyone knows it. And immediately, if you you know quote some things from the movie, everyone knows, or you know, it's something that just connects people. Theaters connect people, stories connect people.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Yes, you're right, absolutely. That's beautiful. I also uh received quite a lot of feedback from the listeners, uh, mentioning they like actually stories and they like to listen to stories from from the hosts. So I wanted to ask you if you could maybe share a moment in your in your life when you you watch a movie, uh, you really love the movie with maybe someone, and that really made you truly connected to that person, almost like a friend. So, what what uh would be that movie who created that strong bond with someone?

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Well, since we're small, our dad is watching movies with us, and I remember that every Sunday after dinner we watch a movie together. And one of our favorite movies is Rocky. Rocky Balboa, you know, the boxing.

SPEAKER_03 10:08

I've watched them.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

This is by far one of the most beautiful memories I still have and keep, you know. Um, it has to do with uh a man who wants to become a good famous boxer, you know. He wants to be the best boxer, actually. And since I'm small, I play tennis, right? And um I wanted to become a professional, really good professional player. So um the sport connected us in this way, you know. Um, my dad also, he's a karate meister, master, yeah. And so we have this in common. And watching the movie Rocky, we always, you know, saw like some similarities about life, you know, and how it is. And that um one thing is what I really adore is to see how he had the main figure, Rocky Balboa, had to go through so much bad things and difficult times to achieve what he wanted to do, you know. But he always believed in himself. And our dad was always telling us, you know, you always have to believe in yourself, but you need to dedicate work to these beliefs, you know, otherwise it won't work. You need to work, you need to be strong, you need to, you know. There's a phrase also in the Rocky movies where he says, it doesn't matter how many punches you give or you get, it's important how many times to stand up, you know, and get and become stronger. And I think that's something that everyone and every person in our lifetime on this planet Earth, you know, has to take personal and say, look, how many it doesn't matter how many times I go through hell, I will stand up and I will become stronger through that. This is a new lesson that I have learned, and I will take it with me, and I'll be stronger, and I will get there where I want to be, and I will hope and I will dedicate the work to it.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Nice, very nice. So would you say that's the the main character who uh represents resilience for you in the in a theater movie uh industry?

SPEAKER_01 12:18

I hundred percent, yes.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

It's a good movie to watch, uh also for young people to see that they can create something when they want to, you know. And yeah, and uh another thing that I really admire in this movie is he's still like he got the fame, but he still remained the same person, you know, and it shows him in different um times, you know, when he's older, how he copes with uh some losses, how he copes with losing his uh wealth and so on, you know, and he always remains the same person, and this is extremely important for us. We always have to make sure we never forget where we come from and who we are, you know, and who our friends are, who your our family is, you know. Those people are supporting our us and our back, you know, and that's something I like to see in this movie.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Oh wonderful, that's nice. You're right. It's really also show the fact that there's some humility in uh in his character, even uh, even though he gets, of course, a success and uh fame. That's quite nice. Is there anything else that you think you've learned from from Rocky from the character from the film? Is there another side of the movie where you you learn from uh you that you can use in your everyday? Like so you you spoke about resilience, you spoke about maybe humility. Is there anything else that uh brings you also uh or you sometimes think about Rocky for another aspect?

SPEAKER_01 13:50

Um yeah. Um I love the connection he has with his wife, Adrienne. And I really love the fact that she was there for him, you know, and very selfless and not wanting to, she didn't want anything, she just wanted to be next to him by his side, you know, and support him. And I think love is something that everyone needs, and it gives it gives us power, you know, and love can be found in many different ways. It's not only love from your partner or your husband, or it's love from your friends, it's even the love from your pet, you know. If your dog, if you come home and your dog is just very happy to see you, it's just beautiful, you know, and I think love is the strongest power existing, in my opinion, and can move mountains. Um we need to take care of it in any any in any relation towards our friends, as I said, and towards pet, towards our colleagues at work, towards our grandparents, you know, to everyone, husband, wife.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Yeah, you're absolutely right. No, that's beautiful to hear. It's really uh nice and romantic, I have to say. It's beautiful to see. Yeah, I also uh it's interesting. I just realized that we also have another point in common because I also used to do quite a little bit of sport. And uh I remember, as you said, I had this connection with my teammate. I used to play basketball, so that was of course one topic we'll speak a lot. But at the same time, I was uh loving movies since I'm a kid, and I used to have a long time ago those VHS cassettes, right? So I used to have a wall full of those cassettes, and I was very meticulous to put the numbers and write them, the titles and everything, to a point where actually my teammate will rent, I was like a video club basketball team, and I had to actually write who I rent, I let that uh cassette to because I lent it so many of them. But the beauty was that on top of paying, of course, and speaking about basketball, we had another connection because every time they would give me back the cassette, we'll speak about the film. So it was also really beautiful to have, as you said, you did the same. Uh you can speak about the film with people from different uh area and different uh generation, and also yeah, also with people you are very bounded already with uh from sport or the activities.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Exactly. You know, it creates bonds. It's just yeah, and going actually going to the theaters too, you know. Um, of course, it's um it's always the movies that make the people come to theaters, but it should also become something that you know that an event to do with someone because you go and experience something together, even if you you can like, you can hate the movie, but you do it together, you know. And as I said, um it releases oxycotine, you know, it's this um hormone of love, you know. And you and you just like to, you know, experience things together.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

No, that's beautiful. And I really like what you mentioned about your story uh between your family and your dad and uh the film Rocky, of course, it's really powerful. And I wanted to ask you again, with your experience uh working for Disney and you've watched probably uh thousands of films. Is there one story from Disney or one film uh where you thought that this film works really well across all ages, from kids to seniors? So a film where you maybe receive feedback from the audience saying, you know, you saw old people, young people, and they all love the films. Is there one film in particular that uh you felt that film was really a great bond between generations?

SPEAKER_01 17:41

It's my favorite movie, is Titanic. So I think everyone knows the movie every Christmas. You're just spammed with the movie, you cannot not know it. And it's something I really believe um one of the greatest masterpieces for this time, you know. It's a little older movie, but it it looks like it was created just right now, you know, last year. It's it it's so it's it's so nice and uh amazing artwork, you know. And I believe talking about this movie, it's of course it's a catastrophe that's about, you know, Titanic, and but there is a love story, you know, and it has so many different kinds of um points where people, you know, connect together to talk about this movie, you know. Some of them they're very fascinated about how the movie was made, others love the story uh about Rose and Jack and the love story and everything, which uh traumatized me for my life, but yes. But I think this is a movie you can talk to anyone. I think everyone knows it from small age, I guess, um, or not small age, young age, you know. Um you can connect and watch the movie together and say, Oh my goodness, it's Christmas, for example, let's watch Titanic or you know, Valentine's Day, it's time for Titanic. And the thing is, it this movie is like three hours or or so, you know, and it's very long and um three or four hours, and you know, you just experience almost a half day with the person watching it, and it's a bond, you know. Yeah, that's something yeah, I would say Titanic.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

Yeah, and it's a real story as well. So if uh people are curious, they can also go to to read the real story about what happened, and yeah, I think it's also nice when it's also based on real stories, it's quite interesting as well.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Exactly. And uh another story that I would say, which I think is is brilliant because it's packed into humor. Humor always works for any every generation. Um, it's cool runnings, you know, and uh Jamaica had a Bob team, you know, and they had to be with some strangers together, sit into a small Bob, and slide down. And it was so funny to watch, but it was also very beautiful how four strangers became friends through a new experience, you know. And it felt like at the end of the time, like at the end of the movie, it felt like they were already a family, you know. And yeah, just two remarkable movies I would recommend to anyone and everyone to to everyone to watch.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

Okay, wonderful. That's great to hear. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

So this new movie that you can say, wow.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

Well, this movie I think I remember Aladdin pretty well, uh, and I liked it because it was fun. It took me to another place, so I really uh was not thinking about anything else. I was captured by the story. Of course, I like the fact there's uh there's a genius coming out of the lamp and kind of can give uh give you everything and everything. So it's really applied to the imagination. So if I had to say on a Disney, Disney uh movies, I really like uh Aladin, I think today was a great movie. Uh Nemo, I think it was really fun. I really uh laughed when I uh I found Nemo, uh, the fish. Yeah, because I like diving as well. So obviously, I I saw real ones in the sea when I was uh diving in Maldives. So I was uh yeah, I I found that really funny, and I like the fact that it's under the water, it's a different world, and I could relate uh with it because yeah, like I love diving as well. So both films are really beautiful in that standpoint, yeah. From Disney for sure. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, yeah, they're really nice.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Another movie, which is your favorite movie of all time? I really want to know.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Well, you know, you know, Maria, if we start, if you start with that question, the podcast is gonna last two days, I think. But uh I've got so many, so many like you, I think so many stories. Um, I think one story that uh I I told you, I I think I studied um a bit of cinema when I was uh studying uh science. We had a semester uh where we could pick uh a topic, and I picked the cinema and we're a team, and we did uh research on two cinasts, Frederick Wiseman and Michael Moore, who are two engaged uh filmmakers, uh different uh generations, but both different styles, and we studied that. So it was quite uh interesting to see that the Frederick Wiseman movie, the first one, was banned from the cinema for 40 years, because he was the first American cineast to actually criticize uh society uh in the US and criticize the condition of uh of patients in psychiatric wards. Uh so it was quite interesting, not uh happy uh story, but very uh powerful. Also, the way he filmed, he really uh his strategy was to put the camera in an angle and make sure that people will just forget the camera. As uh if you take Michael Moore, he's always engaged, he's always in front of the camera. So different styles, both powerful. So it was quite interesting to compare both styles. I really like that.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

So what's it called? What's the movie called?

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Uh the the movie is called Titty Cut. Fullies, it's uh old old movies. I don't know if it's still uh I think uh I could access it because I was uh I could access the cinema department. I think it went out, but at the beginning, basically it was not out. You could not see only if you studied cinema, you could actually watch it. Now I think you can probably find it on streaming, but uh yeah, it's um I would say it's not a happy story, it's really a film, a documentary about uh psychiatric wards, uh, I think in the 30s or 40s. Yes, yeah, so it's an old movie, more documentary than movie, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Yeah, there's another one which might be similar. Uh, one flew over the cook cook's net.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Yeah, with uh Jared Nicholson. Jared Nicholson, amazing movie as well. I love that, yeah. Yeah, and also another one which I really like. Uh, when I was doing my VHS uh video club, uh, which is uh with Robert De Niro, I think he was absolutely unbelievable in uh the film in The Awakenings. So it's basically playing a patient, uh, and it's based on a real story. Uh, I think it was in uh 1969, uh, where they were testing uh the L Dapa in patients who are having um paralysis. So it was uh we would call them the statue people. So they were leaving, they had heartbeats, but they couldn't speak, they couldn't move those people, and it's a real story. I think in the 30s, they were leaving those people uh alone. Basically, they were just uh giving them the minimum care. And then there is this doctor, yeah. I know it was called Dr. Sawyer, who was uh played by uh Robin William, uh, who uh really was passionate about trying to find a solution for them. And he, I think, tried this uh drug, the L Dopa, which was I think used for uh Parkinson, and he was the first to try to test, and he was challenged by his colleagues, his peers, who say this drug would never uh work, you're wasting the time. But at the end, he managed to do it, and it's based on a real story. It was really inspirational for me, this uh story of uh doctor, I really believe I really want to help and and uh um yeah, help those people uh just left alone because they they could not communicate with with the people.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Yeah, you just said something very interesting. Uh you said that it was inspirational, you know. And this is one of the goals, I guess, every filmmaker wants to achieve, you know, he wants to create something in the viewer, you know.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

It just doesn't he they don't create the movies just for people to watch, you know. They want to create some certain thought, you know, an idea and some inspiration for their own life, you know, for the viewer's life. And I think this is a big compliment, you know. If you're inspired by a movie, I think the the movie makers will be happy, you know, because that's what they wanted to do.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

Yeah, that's great that you speak about inspiration. I wanted also to uh ask you actually uh about another emotion that uh movie I'm sure creates sometimes. You and I we played sport, and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose in sport, and that's the same in life, right? So uh I wanted to ask you why do you think movies actually can really give people hope?

SPEAKER_01 26:23

I believe that in every movie like that you watch that has to do about a figure that is going through a stage in his life, you can see that there is a certain amount of hope, you know, in them, and hope keeps us motivated, you know. I said it before with my dad, you know, when he told us, you know, you can hope for something, but you need to dedicate work to for it to it, you know. Hope alone does not um I mean it's good to hope for something that, for example, you cannot have to do you cannot influence it, of course. But if you can influence and you hope and you believe in yourself, you will be further than others that just stuck in hope, you know what I mean. So this is um something that I think people can see in the figures, you know, um when they watch the movies together and they see that there is something that they have that they are passionate about, you know. They they go and they follow the the viewer is actually seeing a path, you know, and seeing how it might end up, what the result is of the hard work, you know. And through this, the inspiration comes, you know, and ideas come up, you know. You go out of the movie and you think, I mean, how many times I have thought I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna change this. So, like the main character in the movie, because I was so motivated by it, you know. Yeah, you sit there two hours in the theaters and you are forced. You don't you don't have to sit there, but actually you're forced to watch it, you know, and you take out the best of it. You take out the best of the stories, the thing you want to see. And one beautiful thing that everyone has individually is um how you like how you take the things, you know, the interpretation. So how you interpret this and this and this, and you reflect on your own life. And based on this, you go out and you are motivated by it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

I really like your energy, Maria. It's fantastic, it's beautiful to hear. I'm sure it's gonna be actually inspirational for our listeners as well. So that's great to see uh to hear your point of view as well. And uh also, of course, you've been professional uh tennis players, so it's also things that uh you really fought to get where you wanted to go with uh your career as a tennis player, and then it shows resilience, it shows again probably hope as well. So you I would say uh incarnated all those uh emotions and all those qualities uh in your life, which is great to uh to relate to as well and to listen to. Um thanks for that. It's really uh really great. I wanted uh now to maybe use that skill, those skills you have. If I may ask you at the end of each podcast, we speak about the brightbone tip. Or in other words, it's an advice. I ask our guests uh to give to the listeners something simple that they can apply very easily today or next week, whenever. So I wanted to ask you, Maria, if you could give us a brightbone tip or give the listeners a brightbone tip, maybe one action they can take easily next week with someone they love, maybe something related to a film, as you wish. But yeah, something like that.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Well, invite someone you really like to the cinema. There's so many nice, interesting movies, also arthouse movies, you know, and you can just go and spend some time with the person. This is something I would recommend to everyone. And going to the movies, as I said, it's it's an event, it's something you do with someone else, creates a bond, you know. Just do it and do someone uh like um as a gift, you know. It don't have to expect anything back. It what I think is important, and my message is is um I mean my um psychology is to give love and not expect it back, you know. And I think if we live with this mindset, and if we want to give the best of our time and love to people that are close to us or even strangers, you know, being kind to everyone, not expecting anything back, you know, it wouldn't make you feel very well, you know, and make the other person feel very well. And this is something I can that's my tip and suggestion for everyone, you know. Try to connect with people, for example, your grandparents try to visit them, try to take them to the cinemas. I don't know when they have been to the cinema last time and try to be polite to everyone you see in your life, you know, not expecting to get it back, just give it. Everyone has everyone, every person has love inside of them, you know. Yeah, and it doesn't it doesn't cost to be kind, just be kind and like you know, helpful and not expect it.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Wow, thanks. Wow, wow, wow, thank you. That's such a beautiful message. Uh I wanted to thank you so much, Maria, for your insight. It was a very lovely, warm, and inspirational conversation with you. And I'm sure that the listeners will be inspired, inspired by uh what you just said. Uh you're right, it doesn't take much. And as you said, as well, just going to the cinema. Sometimes uh nowadays it's easy to just stay at home and watch a film, but going and that's an event, as you said, and it's an event we can do together. So I think um it's beautiful. I think you had to uh take uh the summary of this uh podcast together. Uh, simple ones. I think uh stories don't just entertain us, of course, it's an entertainment, but they really connect us, as uh Maria explained. They give us uh shared language, shared emotion, shared hope, uh shared resilience, as you said, Maria, very well. And they work so well across generation, uh, from kids to uh seniors. So, Maria, the film Titanic was the film to go to, which really connects the generation. That's beautiful. I really uh love this conversation uh today together because sometimes one story is enough to open door to uh maybe laughter, understanding, or to belonging. Um, I uh I am a coach and sometimes I actually use either books or films if I feel someone is stuck or doesn't understand something. Sometimes films can uh also create um an understanding between people.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Amazing.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

So to everyone listening, uh thank you so much for listening. Try this bright bond tip uh today that Maria just said take someone to uh the movie, to the theater. Uh use maybe one story with someone uh you love. Uh you can take people to dinner, to walk, to uh uh give them or send them a message. But yeah, do something together. Maria also said that sometimes it's good to also invite our seniors to the cinema. Maybe you're right. I would have to ask myself when is the last time I took my aunt to the cinema? It's probably not uh, so I need to do that and apply that myself as well. So that's a great, great uh inspirational tip. And um thank you so much for listening to Brightbond. If this episode gives you a smile, and I hope it did give you a smile, uh please share it with someone else who might need it. And please don't hesitate to subscribe to our YouTube channel, Brightbond Official, spelled in one word. And please uh tick uh this little bell. It's free of charge, and he will really support us if you do that. If you subscribe. And uh until next time, I want to say take good care of yourself and see you next time on Brightbond. And thank you so much, Maria, and bye for me.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Thank you, Maria. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Thank you, bye.

SPEAKER_03 34:19

Bye bye.