Brands & Band$ ft. Sav Rivera

This week on Go Get Hers, Alyse is joined by Chicago Chicas y Cafecito community leader and content creator, Sav Rivera. They give the 411 on all things brand deals, building community with intention, and what it’s like being Latina in Chicago — and using that identity as a strength in your content.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Welcome back to another episode of Go Get Hers. We have another special guest today. She's a Chicago-based content creator and community leader. Sav, welcome to Go Get Hers. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. Honestly, formulating these questions, it made me realize how much I don't know about you. So I'm actually really excited. I feel like we always talk about girly pop stuff. Like we'll get into the nitty nitty gritty.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

I know. I have a lot of lore and I don't talk about it. I actually have been told I need to talk about my lore more.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

No, and that's how I'm excited. I'm excited we're getting the exclusive book. Very excited. I feel like we're like this is like an exclusive magazine or like an interview.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

It kind of is. Like we're opening the book today. Like full open book. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Um, okay, so you're currently though a content creator full-time. And but you previously worked in fintech. And that's finance tech. Am I right?

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Yeah. So I was like in investment research software tech. So I was selling to like wealth managers and stuff like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Okay, cool. So how did you get into it? And then tell us a little about a little bit about your backstory.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

We really have to start with babysavanita. So like you're up kind of poor, right? So when it came time to fit pick a major, I absolutely just went to a pamphlet. I checked what majors made the most money, and like finance and accounting were at the top. So I chose finance because I didn't want to do accounting.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

It sounded very boring. So I ended up studying finance, got into personal finance. I don't know why. Just that track interested me. I think because I was always like a people person that just happened to be good at math.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

And yeah, when I graduated college, I basically got a job in the personal finance space. So I was actually working at Chase, JP Morgan Chase, Chase private client. Anyone know that? Um but after that, um, COVID hit. And so I was in like a physical bank during COVID. Oh my god. And it was awful, honestly. So I knew that I needed to go somewhere. And to me, just tech just made so much sense. Everybody was talking about tech.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

I was considering doing like a fintech boot camp so I could code or something. Uh, and then I ended up just getting approached to be on a sales team. And I thought, oh, like that's what I'm doing now basically, but in just a different area. So got into like an investment research tech software, like I said, and I was there for four years. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Yeah. And then you were doing content creation kind of like in the mix with it eventually.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Yeah. So about two years into my fintech career, I started content creation. And it was more because I was always like the only woman. Always. Only woman. And oftentimes also only Latina or person of color in the room. And it just took a big toll on me. So I needed friends. I needed friends. And I was like, okay, what do I do? Like, I'm gonna create videos and say, like, hey, like, who likes me? Let's go out. Yeah. So that's essentially what I did. Oh, really? That was like your start? Yeah. I just wanted to make friends. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I was like, here's my life. Do you think it's cool? Like, hang out with me. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

No, that's amazing. Cause I don't think I really met you until way later. I mean, we've only known each other, known each other for like what, a year?

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Year and a half. Maybe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

And I don't even know how I don't even remember how.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

I like went full throttle. Like I like my first videos were like voiceover vlogs. Like I had no inhibition. Cause I I had no idea what I was doing. Like I didn't feel that embarrassment that most people feel because I wasn't even on TikTok. I wasn't on TikTok during the 2020 like hype TikTok era. I got on TikTok like 2023.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

Amazing, honestly. So you're not as like gooed in the hut as we are. No. Like I've been consuming it for like six years. And then, and mind you too, I remember going to a Bulls game, beginning of like 2020, and Addison Ray was at the Bulls game or something. Or Charlie D'Amelio, or both of them were. And I was like, and I was like, who are these people? I was like, I have no clue who these girls are. Am I that am I that old? And then I found out what TikTok was. And then I was like, uh, oh, this is where they're getting these teeny boppers. These teeny boppers from. Um, which made sense. But I mean, I can't even talk shit about Latini Bobbers because I mean, I'm on there. I mean, we're trying to be them too. Yeah. Right, exactly. We're online too. So I mean, right. I mean, they're they're definitely onto something. You know, I know your videos mostly for being like your favorite Chicago Latina is always your punchline. And I love those videos. Um, and I love that that is a part of your niche and a part of your identity online. Yeah. So is that one of the reasons why you honed in to making that part of like your niche? Is that you said like you were you're the only woman, you were the only Latina, you were the only like your background. Is that why that was really important for you to incorporate into your content?

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yeah, that was it. I honestly felt like I was losing myself in a lot of ways. I was just molding to this broy fintech arena and realized I was nothing like I was like three years ago. Yeah. So yeah, it was definitely a call to my community to come back in. It was like a call in.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Okay, so you worked in FinTech for four years. Four years. So how did you know it was time to go kind of full throttle into content creation? Like what made you take that leap of faith? Cause especially too, I'm sure you're making bank, right? Like that's a big thing to walk away from, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Yeah, girl. My dad's still mad at me. Oh, um, yeah, I was making a lot of money. I was making like multiple six figures. But good for you. However, I was very unhappy. So it was a combination of things. I actually just filmed a video about this that I need to edit and post, but it was a combination of I was feeling super miserable. Something had to give. I just couldn't do it. Um, but also on top of feeling miserable in what I was doing, content creation did truly become a full-time gig in and of itself. I was constantly at events after work. And when I wasn't at events, I was filming. I remember like one night really struck, like really sticks out to me. It was I was filming some UGC for Bacardi.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

I had a really long day at work. It was really terrible. I was like yelled at by a bunch of like old men. And then I had to film two videos, and there was just no other space for me to film. So I basically stayed up all night filming and editing, and I went to the office straight the next day with no sleep. And I just that's what I had to do to get it done. Yeah. So it was just again, something had to give. And then eventually I started out-earning my base salary. Not everything that I was making in commission, obviously. Right. But I out-earned my base salary and I thought, I think I could live off of that. So I kind of like let that consistency build. And then I obviously saved all my brand deal money. And once I had like a year of savings, I decided it was time. Even if it wasn't going to be my permanent future, like full-time content creation, I just needed to break. Right. And that was what, over three years, too?

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Or like now it's like your third year into content creation. But I'm saying like you were able to save that amount of money and do all that within like two, two and a half, three years.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Honestly, within like one year. Wow. Because I actually didn't take on paid partnerships while I was working with before my manager, basically. Okay. So when my manager kind of came on my team, that's when I started accepting things. The reason I didn't before is because I just didn't have the bandwidth, honestly, to negotiate what was even worth my time at that point.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Um, and then also I didn't want to be flaky. I didn't want to be flaky and I didn't want brands to be like, okay, this girl like ghosted us. She's never gonna respond or she's turning things in late. So I just preemptively declined everything for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

So how do you know when it's time to get a manager?

SPEAKER_00 7:22

Ooh, you know, my story is like very unique because I feel like most people don't get signed at the size that I was.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

I had like 5,000 Instagram followers and then But I'm sure your engagement and your what you're bringing in though is like calculated into that, especially too, because I mean your management company is smaller. Yes, too. So I feel like I actually love a smaller management company because then you can see they see more potential. Absolutely, you know, and they don't see you for like the followers that you are, they see you for like the money that you're bringing in your engagement, which I think is really important.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Absolutely. Well, you know, I love my manager. My manager's like my bestie. Um but yeah, she really was very personable. She cared about me as a person, I think, before she cared about like the numbers and stuff, which is why it always resonated with me. But I think at that point, we had to do a little bit of kind of proving how much I was bringing in because I was declining everything. So it was kind of a process of showing her, hey, like this is what's come in and this is what I haven't been able to take. And obviously, I also have a community group, which is, you know, very, very in right now. Everybody wants to tap into in-person activations and stuff like that. So I I think she saw like a combination of like my potential. And then obviously I built something very real here in Chicago. Um and very unique, I feel like, for a lot of creators. So she approached me. Like a lot of people ask, like, how did you get your manager? How did you get her to like sign you? I'm like, a girl, she stalked me. She stalked me. And yeah, that was it. Rest was history.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

And you grew up in Humboldt Park, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Mm. I was born in Humboldt Park. Okay. But I grew up all over Chicago, actually. Started out in Humboldt Park. That's where my parents first, you know, shacked up together, I guess you could say. They were like maybe engaged. I don't even think there was a ring involved. But yeah. Engage in spirit. We gotta talk about standards for my mother, but we'll we'll talk about that later.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

But um I mean, honestly, Sav, you need to give us some dating tips because Sav's man is He's like top two. My rock. My rock. Um and and you would never know it. That's what I love. Is that you? Like that he's just like in the background. He's just like Lord. It's Barbie's. As you should. Exactly. Right. It's Barbie's Dream House. Ken just lives here. Yeah. No, I love that. Sorry. Continue.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

No, yeah. So it started on Humble Park, but uh, and that's a huge part of who I am. I mean, that's Barrio Borin Ken here in Chicago, the Puerto Rican neighborhood, for those who don't know. Um, but my grandparents have always lived in Logan Square. So that was also a big part of my childhood. Um, but my mom for most of my life was a single woman. I always saw her as like the Latina Carrie Bradshaw very much. I love her. And we were always like living with friends and boyfriends, and we were we were all around. So uh, and then also my dad, he moved around a lot. He lived in Puerto Rico, Florida, New York. But when he came back, I lived with him in Pilson for a long time. Um my mom and her friend lived in Belmont Cragen, and I had like a little little little housemate, little friend, um, you know, living with her. So spent a lot of time in Belmont Cragen. Um, yeah. And then me personally, once I became an adult, I lived in like Brinkley, River North. All the fun places.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Yeah. And I love that you and I live so close together. Did you walk here or did you Uber? No. I did not walk.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Oh. No, but I Ubered. I did a wait and save.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Is that why you're so early? Because you did that thing where it was like, it said like 15 minutes and you came in like two. Absolutely. I love it when that happens. Um, no, but too, I love walking to you. I mean, I get my nails done where you where you live or whatever, too. But it's it's so close. Like it literally is like sometimes when the Uber's like, oh, it's gonna say seven minutes. I'm like, girl, it takes three. Yeah. I know. You're gonna run this block. I've been around this block before. Exactly. And it's a 15-minute walk and it's a brisk, brisk 15-minute walk. Like if I can do it when I go get my nails done, which coincidentally, every time I go get my nails done, it's always raining. What? I'm not even kidding. And I get my nails done once a month or two.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Okay, so I'm gonna let you know, like, when I need the sun. So don't get your nails done.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Okay, it is literally. I'm not joking every time, because then sometimes I'll have to Uber and I'm like, it's such a brisk walk. So why would I Uber here? Yeah. Like it's so irritating. But let's circle back to the community groups thing. Yeah. Because two, I think that's one of the things that we bonded over was so you founded Chicas y Cafecitos, right? Yes. Am I not? I'm saying a really American and white. I'm it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

It's Chicago Chicas y Cafecito. I created the community group at the very beginning of my creator career. Like, like I said, I wanted to meet some girls. Yeah. I did that. I met other girls who were doing content creation, but I was so new in that space. I didn't have like other creator friends. So that wasn't really my priority. I was like, I just want to meet girls. Yeah. So my co-founder and I, who, you know, connected over content creation, we got together and we had seen like a concept very similar, like a coffee club or like just like a girl group that was doing this in LA. It was very small scale. Um, but we were like, what if we did that here in Chicago and made it for the Latinas? Because, you know, there is a layer of uh connection that you get from that shared identity, you know, like the Spanglish and the ways we grew up, all the customs. Like it's very important to us. Wonderful. So yeah, we basically met at this new Latina-owned coffee shop at the time called Thesa Coffee Roasters. It's my favorite. Okay. And where is it? It's in West Humboldt Park. Okay. It's you're gonna, if you go down North Avenue, you're gonna be like, is this correct? And I'm like, yes, keep going. Keep going down. I promise you. It's okay. Yeah, I want to try it. Please do. Um, Asia is also obsessed with it. Is it? Is she? She is. Oh, wow. It's very good.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Which is she's really picked. I mean, Home Girl is the pickiest girl I know, which love that for her and love her for it. But so if she thinks it's good, then it's actually fire. Absolutely. Because even too like our talking coffee because she's like, mm, there's there should be like three bumper milk in here. And I'm like, Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Um, but yeah, I mean, we met at that's a coffee roasters, we figured out how we're gonna do it, how we were gonna peep keep people safe. Basically, landed on like a location drop where we kept the location a secret. We just like accepted people on a very like low-key basis. We had like a Google form and everything. We do things a little differently now, but it's pretty much the same. And yeah, we had like eight girls at our first meetup. Great. It was awesome. No, I mean that's a return off. We had an amazing time, honestly. It was so fun. It is all you need. And then, you know, I posted about that first meetup, and the first video got like 3,000 likes. And it was over from there. Wow. It was over from there. So we have wait lists of like a hundred girls every single time. It's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Wow. Yeah, I'm sure it did because of your editing skills and the way you're gonna be able to do it. Girl, back then I wasn't doing much. But I don't believe that. I honestly do. I honestly don't, I honestly don't believe that just because like your editing when I know it's like over it's not over the top now. I mean, it's exceptional now. Thank you. But it's just even the cade. I mean, you don't use that skill gets refined, but you don't, but you have to have it to begin with, is what I'm trying to say. Okay. So I so I know that you were bringing it back then, and that's definitely probably why it did so well, and like how you have garnered so much interest into it, especially too, like you're so niche, and sometimes I think people think that niching like that is a bad thing because you're like not being inclusive, whatever. But like, no, but there are groups and pockets of people who need their own separate space and who thrive in that space and want to feel included in that space, which is why it's so important for groups like yours to exist. Absolutely. Um, and then too, me and Sav were on that panel together. Yes. Um, Girls Who Collab was way after your group. But same concept though. Absolutely. And honestly, until I I think I followed you, and then I saw it in your bio, and then that's what I was like, oh, because I thought I was being original. I mean, always thinking I have an original idea. You were though. No, I was, I was. Yes. Everyone else has come after me. Anyways, but then I saw your group and I was like, no, this is I I love this. Like I wanted to again essentially do the same thing of having like women and content creators, and you know, I guess I added like the little touch of like it being like marketing, yes, um, just to jazz it up a little bit. And it's so diverse. That's what I loved. Dude, I love I grew up in such a diverse area that I can't even think of anything less. And to like, I mean, for girls who collab, I curate the guest list, so I make sure that there is someone from every walk of life. Like if it ends up being not that because people cancel last minute or because someone can't go and I have to switch out the guest list, like I can't always do a one-for-one or whatever. Right. But that makes me happy to hear you say that because I do try really, really hard because I I mean diversity to me is everything. Like, I I don't get people's like disdain, I guess is the word for diversity, or um, lack of attention to diversity. I think that's what really bothers me too about like brands and brand brand events and um even you know, some groups here that they're you could just tell that that's just like not their focus and not their intention. But yeah, me and Sav are on a panel together. And so I loved hearing about your group and like everything that you've done. And um because what how frequent do you guys meet? I know it's a little bit now it's monthly.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Okay. We used to do a lot more often. I think it also depends on the weather, you know. Right. The weather in Chicago sucks. Exactly. Coffee shops are small, they're hot, yeah, uncomfortable. Right. Um, so basically during the colder months, we try to do once a month. Um, and then once it heats up, we collaborate with brands. We have a little more fun with it, the outdoors concepts. Um, we like we like to do a lot of coffee pop-up. So that just gives us a little bit more flexibility to do like two to three sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Wow. That's so fun. I know Girls Who Collab has kind of been in a lull, but I'm like, I'm just one girl.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

We experienced our f our first lull too. Like and it was very new to us because we were very consistent with two to three meetups every single month for a year and a half, almost two years straight. Yeah. And then after our second birthday, we were just so burnt out. And so we took like months off.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

And sometimes you need that, honestly. Sometimes you need to know when you're feeling burnt out and when it's not really like yielding anything productive. Exactly. And I think that's where self-awareness and and it feels like I think it's natural to feel like a failure or like you're failing or not doing what you're supposed to be doing or not doing enough. But it's almost kind of how I think about, you know, people who have kids that they if the mom's not taking care of and her mental is not good, she can't take care of her kids really, really well. Yeah. And I truly believe that. I've never been a mom. I'm not a mom currently.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

So we're kind of mothers to brain children.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Right. I know. I'm like, I'm I'm basically a mother to my nieces, and I'm like, I always say tell people like I birthed them. So um birthed them without birthing them. Because they do have this weird thing of knowing that I'm like they like they think I'm like 12 while also acknowledging that I'm with like their author like authority over them. Like I've actually never seen kids be able to switch between that to be like you're my fun aunt and I really appreciate you, but like she's the one in charge. Also, like when she says do something, like I need to do it, like it's not fun in games. Um, so I always tell people that I feel like I birthed my nieces, even though I didn't. So honestly, too. If I never have kids, they're all they're as good as I get. Honestly. And I tell people all the time, I'm like, look, if my kids aren't as well behaved as them, because they're like ain't I mean, we've never had problems with even when they were little, they didn't mess with stuff in the house. Like they didn't do anything, really. And I'm like, and I don't think I'm gonna get that lucky, especially with the daughter, dude.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

I know. I feel like I was such a good kid, because I had to be. Yeah. That I'm gonna have a traviesa, I'm gonna have like a troublemaker. I'm so not looking forward to that, but it's okay. It's my karma.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

And that's how I feel. Like I was a night, I I mean, I think my teen years, I was a nightmare. And when I was little, I was just I just did what I mean, I just did whatever I wanted. Yeah. I think like I like my mom always says that when our house was getting built, that I took all my clothes and put them in her closet when her closet got finished because they got finished after we moved in, and I started bringing all my c clothes downstairs in her closet, and she was like, girl, the same the same yours, right? Like you have a room, homegirl. What are you doing? And some of my clothes when I was little are still in there because she's just like, I just let you do whatever. Or to like, I used to just, you know, I'm like, you need some pictures, and I would put up pictures around the house like on pieces of paper. At least I put on a piece of paper and then taped it up. At least I wasn't like drawn on the walls. Um but but yes, but that's how I feel too about like when it turns when it comes to creating businesses, content, X, Y, and Z, like you gotta make sure you have a good balance between taking care of yourself while also like dishing out all this these things for brands because that's for sure important. Back to talking about brands and how you use brands and collaborate that with them for like your events and X, Y, and Z. How what's your process for a like approaching brands for like gifting for events or collaborating with them for events? Um, or like even just making the content for them, or even like your tips for being approached by brands if by brands if you're someone that does content creation.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

Ah, absolutely. I mean, on the event side, I do think you have to show a little bit of a proof of concept. Yeah. I think a lot of people just want to start something and go straight for the brands. Yeah. You gotta put a little more sweat equity in that, Mija. Okay, you need a little more. So for us, we kind of did our own thing. We didn't provide much value besides the connection for a while.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

And that's okay. I feel like a lot of people overthink it because there are so many like highly produced events these days. You don't need that. So we kept it really simple for a long time. And then, like I said, it just got traction after that first meetup. We had so many new followers and the wait lists were what we used. Basically, we approached brands via DMs, or I, if I had an email contact for my personal content creation, I would use that. But I would just show them hey, we have a 20-person meetup coming up and a 120-person wait list. I think this is something that you might want to tap into. Can we do a giveaway? Like, how can we be creative when working together? Uh, I think you just have to provide that value up front. So for me, that's the biggest thing. And then the same goes for content creation, like personal branding and all of that. Uh, I never do outbound. Like, I don't think I think 90% of my partnerships are inbound partnerships, which people get surprised by. But I think you have to provide that proof of concept. You have to provide the engagement rate, the community. You have to build content that the brand can already see themselves in.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

And for me, like how I approach it is I try not to focus on the individual pieces of content. I try to focus on my overarching story. Like to me, that's very important. Like, who am I and what journal. What journey am I on? What journey am I taking people on? Like what value do I give them just with every single thing that I'm putting out there? And when a brand approaches me, like for example, Pons, that was like a big partnership that I did for a long time. It was both UGC and my personal brand. And for that one, it just fits so well because if you don't know, like Pons is a staple in a Latina household. Like my abuela used it, all my Tia's use it. It's very important to us. And it was just so easy for me to say, like, I'm gonna talk about my grandma. Like, I'm gonna take this moisturizer, which doesn't typically have anything to do with family, but I'm gonna integrate it into my story of being, you know, a Dominican American and it's important to me. So that's the story that they want to tap into and the storytelling. And I think if you don't have that, if you're just posting pretty content, it's just not enough anymore. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

No, people do want the depth. Like I can tell when when people post some ads, I'm just like, hmm, it could have been better. Yeah, like I've done that too.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

I've posted like an ad where I thought, you know what, I just said the key messaging. Right. That was it. And that's all I had. Yeah. Right. That's all I had.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

I know. No. And then too, I I mean, you and Asia to me are like the top people and like that I love you guys' ads, and like it can just tell how much time you guys put into them. Well, especially too, now that I look at now that I've, you know, tried to dabble more in like editing a little bit better. All I see when you guys post now is I'm like, how I'm like, that shit took them three days. Like, or not even three days, but just like I s I see the amount of effort that you put into it. Not only is it exceptional, but I also see the amount of time and effort that you guys put into it and like your um preciseness, your the organization that goes into it, level of detail, like all those things that go into it that make it a really, really good ad. And that makes it visually appealing, especially for you. Like I love, you know, when you do the scrolling products and like every literally, everyone get off this right now and go follow Sav on Instagram, please. Because thank you at Savx Rivera. Because literally because everything she posts is so is just so like eye-catching and so good.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Like, I'm not even joking. I think another thing that makes all of that super important is like as a full-time creator, that's what's getting brands to come back to me. Yeah. And that's why this can be a full-time job because I treat it like a business. I'm not just taking the one-off brand deal and running with that, just giving them the key messaging. No, like no matter who I'm working with and how much they're paying me, like they're getting that same level of storytelling, of editing. Again, sometimes some ads are better than others. I'm not gonna say that, but they just know what they're gonna get from me. They know they're gonna get the concept. They know that it's gonna be like one edit, if any, and it's just gonna be easy to work with me. And I think Asia is the same way.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

We have the same manager.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

I was gonna say, right, I was gonna say you guys have the same managers. We've been trained well. So she, right. I was like, she recognizes talent when she does, which is a which is a great skill for her.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Absolutely. But yeah, you have to treat it like a business. It's I think that's what FinTech kind of taught me.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

That's all I'm gonna ask, actually.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Oh, that was a question.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

That was a question. What that what like what what values that you took from your full-time dominant content contact creation? Because I also will say is that making these brands, like the marketing and stuff is hard. Okay, like I, my little two-door dash ones, three-door dash ones that I have to post or whatever, I am I am have so much anxiety all day before I lead enough to filming it. I'm like out of breath, irritated. My brain is just like off. Like, I I have an idea of what I want it to look like. If it doesn't, I crash out. Like, all of it takes so much mental like space, I guess. Like mental space, a lot of mental energy, like a lot of energy, period, from thinking of a concept to executing the concept to editing the concept, like all that is a lot of steps. So that's why like when people try to shit on content creation and stuff, I'm like, no. Even my coworker, he um, mind you, it's a coworker that used to have a crush on me.

SPEAKER_00 26:08

So Oh, he was gassing you up.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

But he said he was trying to make like some marketing for something, and he was like, This shit is hard. I was like, yeah, it is. And mind you, like, I make very minimalistic, simple content. Like, you, like I said, you and Asian, you guys do the clicks, you guys do the the the the touch screen, the the add-in, the the the I'm like, look, I love that for you guys, but I just can never do it. And the one time I tried to do it, I'm like, this took five minutes, right? I've like at least wrap it up. It took five minutes to go. Cut the cameras, literally, like I can't, I mentally cannot, could not do it. Because so that's why, again, I mean, I just look at your guys' stuff and I'm just like literally, literally, literally, literally amazed. So transitioning from fintech to content creation. So you do think that like you learned a lot from it? Like, there's a lot of skills that you could transfer over into content creation, you were saying. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, for me, it was just that sense of urgency and professionalism. Yeah. Uh, I think that I know how to blow smoke somebody's ass, if I'm being honest.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

Like, that's I mean, that's important. It is, it is.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

Like, I think what people don't realize is that in this space, you have to be so nice, like very, very flowery almost in your language sometimes to people. So, I mean, my manager's great at this, but me too. Like, after a campaign wraps, I'm like, thank you so much. This was such a great opportunity. I can't wait to work with you again. And those are the things that agencies remember, and those agency contacts remember and when they move brands, they move agencies, they remember you and they come back.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

So I think like urgency email professionalism, uh, negotiating, selling yourself. Like, listen, I know how to talk to people. I used to sell a$6,000 software. And that was$6,000 for one computer. Right. You know, so it's you have to be able to position your value. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

So look at everything like that. No, I mean I actually was thinking earlier for some reason about because I I think about you and, you know, me and Sab actually occasionally talk about relationships and dating and and um about how, you know, we love to see a girl at the forefront of her of her brand and her content versus seeing her boyfriend at the forefront of her content and her brand. Like we're not really interested. I'm not interested in the men.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

No interest whatsoever. No, I scroll, I block. Yeah, no, like I I never want to see him ever. I don't even want to hear like about I don't really even want to hear about your dating stories because I'm like, what else is there, girl? No, right. Uh yeah. I mean, what one of my pet peeves in content creation for women is women who, again, center men and then just talk about men and goading men and flirting with men through the screen. And then they ask me why they don't have brand deals. Right. Where's your brand?

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Look at your demographics. Right. Look, where's your brand? Like who are you? Yeah, exactly. And that's what I like to see too. And that's why, too, I love um, I think the first time I met your boyfriend was at the Delee's Steakhouse upstairs. Yes. Yes. And that's when Sal came over and she's like, my GWCs. And I think about that every day. How it just, it was, was, it was just so authentic and cute. And to like, you never know when you go to brand events, you never know who's gonna be there. Like we never really discuss it beforehand. Like we don't really have a group chat of like, you're gonna be there, you're gonna be there. I mean, I have an idea of who I want to see and who I hope to be there, but unless it's a girls who clap event, like I never know who's there.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Sometimes I'll post on a close friend story like who's going. Right. But I've gotten so many instances where people swipe up and they're like, give me the contact. I want to go. Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Right. And then I feel like awkward. Yeah, and then it's really awkward. So yeah, I'll just take my chances. Right. Like there needs to be like a a a middle ground. Um, but literally though, yeah, Sav was, I think it was a two, it's a two-story place. It's in the new, um, the old out of town. And we were downstairs, and I think your boyfriend's just like upstairs in the corner. Like, he wasn't even by you.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

He was just behind me. He sat in a booth for a while while I was with the girls. Right. He took my content in and out.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Right, like very in the background. Right. I saw him just like sit in the corner, just like eating. He was enjoying, I mean, he seemed like he was enjoying himself. He was just always enjoys himself. Yeah, he's like, I'm here for the food. And to hype my game. Right. And to hype on my girl. Yeah. Like that's that's why I'm here. Um, but no, so I talk to Sav sometimes about dating and the and the men. And, you know, my coworker was was a long, long time ago. I don't okay, so I don't go into the office very often anymore. I go like once every quarter or something. So I only see him like every once in a while, but there was a period of time that and his office used to be next to my because he's in a different department. But then I moved buildings, I got promoted, blah, blah, blah. And I don't know, I gave him like two weeks to like get it together. You know, like to like, if you're gonna make a move, make a move. Like, I already know where this is going, whatever. And I did make the mistake of making out with him after our holiday party. Oh. Um, so and that's what led to it. But then like Valentine's Day was coming up one year, whatever. And mind you, I mean, I was 28. He was like 38. So I'm like, homeboy, I need you to come correct, right? Like, you would think that okay. I was like, okay, maybe I need to go a little bit older at the time. I'm like, maybe. I gave no grace to men over 35. No, but actually, seriously, like they don't deserve it. No. Such a disappointment. Anyways, but literally, I'm like, I'm 28, you're 38, bro. Also, too, he just like was literally not my type. And mind you, I don't really have a type. All my ex-boyfriends look different. I've dated a lot of different races. I've dated an Indian guy, I've dated a black guy, I've dated a white guy, I've dated an Arabic guy, like, I don't really care. He was Vietnamese, that has nothing to do with anything, but he just also like he just was not. I mean, he was short. The short the the height matters to me. Oh, the race does not. Okay. So he was shorter than me, 10 years older. If you're 10 years older for and single for a reason. Girl. Yeah. So I like, it's like I'm already doing kind of the most charity work, right? I'm doing charity work and then you still can't come correct. It really irritated me. Anyways, so he um yeah, Valentine's Day came around and it was like, or he told me he was like, oh, Scud, like he's like, may know you, he's like, I know you're always busy, so make so let me know you have plans for or put me in your calendar for February 10th or something. It was like the Friday before Valentine's Day or something. And mind you, his so his off so I moved offices down the hall, but we were still in the same building. I remember he came to my office like that Tuesday and I came and I came in, that was when I was coming in once a week. He was like, So what do you want to do on Friday? Huh? What do I want to do on Friday? Literally. What do I want to do on Friday? And it's the Friday before Valentine's Day, and you're asking me the week of, and you told me to mark meet you in my calendar for that day. I want to stay home. Right, exactly. I was like, Well, I don't know. What are we doing? He's like, Well, what do you want to do? Why are you I literally was like, get out of my office. I sort of, I was like, get out of my office. Yes because then you try to gaslight me too, and was like, well, usually like women that are younger, like, you know, you you can get away with like doing less. And he said that out loud. Dude, he literally said that to me. I was like, literally lose my number. Like, I don't understand why. Get out of this house. No, literally, so weird. So, anyways, go again, I go in I go into the office once a quarter. And last month or last week, two weeks ago, I went to the office and he was there. And he's like, You want to go to Happy Ar? I'm like, No, but I'll go. I was like, I was like, you're buying. You're fine. You're you're buying. Um because it was like that one day it was like 60 degrees. Oh, like that one's like a few. You're a little reckless on those days. You know what? I'm I don't have I don't have my what's about me. It's nice outside at all. I'll I'll do anything to to get a drink and be on a patio. So Sab's man, though. You've been with him since high school.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

No college. Oh, okay. What college did you go to again? I went to DePaul. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, we've been together for eight years. Wow. I'm loved so Mexicanly. It's great. I love it. He's actually the first Latino boy I've been with. Can you believe that? I know. Really? I can't say that. I'm like anyone else. I know. I'm like you. I dated everybody. I think my first boyfriend was Polish. I mean, I'm from Chicago, guys. Like right. You couldn't have to be. It's either Mexican, Puerto Rican, Mexican, or Polish. I know. We've lived together since COVID, basically. Like I had my own apartment during college, and my lease was up, my roommates were moving, I didn't know what to do. He didn't know what to do. So we just kind of moved in together. And where were you living before? You live. I was living in Wrigleyville. Okay. Did you like it? It was actually pretty fun. I lived in Wrigleyville when the Cubs won the World Series. So that was really iconic. Wow. That was very, very fun. For sure. Did you go to work that day? Well, I so I was in college at the time. And when I was in college, I actually was a music teacher. I taught piano, guitar, and voice. Yeah. So I did go to work the next day, and I actually have Snapchat videos of me and my students in all Cubs gear playing Go Cubs Go on the guitar.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

It was cute. Wait, so the twins are looking for a piano uh teacher.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

I mean.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

You want to trying to have a third gig?

SPEAKER_00 35:06

No, no, not yet. I don't need it yet.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

No.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Look at this fails, you can't. Once concentration fails, I'll go back to creating music and teaching because I will not go back to fintech. Sorry. Never? No. Never go. I will never go back to fintech.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Will you have do you think you could ever do a nine to five again? Or would you have to find a few years?

SPEAKER_00 35:23

I think I could do a nine to five. Okay. I think I could, but I could not go back to fintech. Okay. That's just not the space.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

So you lost so do you like working for your like for yourself then?

SPEAKER_00 35:32

I do. Okay. I like working for myself. Okay. I don't see myself doing anything for the time being, anything else for the time being. Okay. There are a lot of challenges to it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. A lot more expenses, a lot more burnout, and a lot less boundaries. Yeah. So it's very working like I mean, you can spread out the work. You can make anything work. Yes. So that's what becomes kind of tricky. 100%. And then also when you're leaning into rest, you can lean into it a little too much. So it requires some discipline for sure. And I I've not always been great at discipline.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

But so then what motivates you though then to like and I mean, like you said, discipline is literally a requirement of being self-employed. And um like I feel like with that comes, you know, you have to be motivated by something to continue to do it.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

Yeah. I mean, like, I got that dog in me, at least. I really do. No, I know you do. I don't know how else to put it. Like, I've always been a hustler. I've always had multiple jobs. I've always had my hands in just so many different pots. And like for me, family's a big one. Like, listen, I don't have a family to fall back on. Like, I can't live back at home. Like, I support my father through a lot of things. And like, um, it's just not an option for me. Like, failing is not an option. It has never been. So because of that, I don't fail. Right. I just don't let myself fail. Yeah, you gotta make something to shake. I mean, I make mistakes, I do things wrong, but never, never truly failing. I don't consider, you know, making mistakes a failure.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

Yeah. No, it doesn't. I mean, it's definitely a learning group. I mean, at the end of the day, we're all human. Exactly. And we're all learning, so which is great. Um the one thing I do want to ask about the brands and stuff with brands. You do get a lot of invited to a lot of brand things, which is really, really cool. Do I? You do. Okay. You do like last night, you went to a cool one. Oh, that was so cool. Yeah. Yeah. What has been your favorite brand event?

SPEAKER_00 37:28

Or like, I mean, last night I went to dinner with IGK and Ulta Beauty at Fear Red Astake. See, it was amazing. Yeah. What was the most amazing part about it was just talking to the brand and actually like sitting next to the head of marketing at IGK. Like, that's insane. Yeah. Um, but it was also just so intimate and relaxed. Cause you know, brand events can be kind of a hot mess, obviously. Like I love my brands down, and I know you guys put so much work into these events, but like when there's just a bunch of creators stuffed into a room and there's no real like run of show, it just can get a little bit messy. I don't know how else to put it. Um, and it doesn't feel as fulfilling. So it was very nice to have that sit-down time and like FaceTime with the brand. And you know, I'm an Ulta girl. I love me some Ulta. So it was a very important like flagpole moment in my life.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

Yeah, and you're going to Ulta Beauty, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:23

I'm going to Ulta Beauty World. Don't jump me. Do not jump me. Yeah, I guess what what was the what happened with that? There were three million women in line. I'm assuming women, beauty lovers. Three million beauty lovers in line for 3,000 tickets. Also too. Tell us what Ulta Beauty World is. Oh, Ulta Beauty World is essentially like a beauty convention, but all of the brands within the Ulta Beauty like umbrella, they set up their own booths, they create activations, and they give away a ton of products, which was the amazing part last year. Like you get full-size products, it was insane. But last year nobody knew about it. It was the first year, nobody knew about it. I knew about it because I was tapped into Ulta.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

I didn't know last year was the first year.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

Last year was the first year, it was open to the public. They always have like a training session similar to that, but it was open to the public last year and it was amazing. It was so fun. I had the best time. I went with my girlfriends. Um, but yeah, this year I was just one of the lucky ones. I bought my ticket. Like I paid a good amount of money for that, and I'm gonna pay for my hotel by myself and my flight by myself. Amazing. My girls did not get tickets. Yeah. Dang. Kind of sad, honestly. I got my ticket at 859. They said it opened at nine. I got my ticket at 859. I was out of there. I was also like shaking, sweating. I had my card detailed, my business card was out, my personal card was out. I was typing away really fast. It was uh I blacked out. Yeah. But I got my ticket.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

Dude, that's how I feel. I didn't obviously, I mean, I'm manifesting getting invited to Lollapalooza with the with the brand this year. You will. So I didn't get Lollapalooza tickets. And also too, Lollapalooza's always on my birthday weekend, always. Um, and it's a blessing and a curse because when I was younger, I would go to Lollapalooza every single year. And I'll come from it. It's actually funny. Since I live in Chicago, I've only been to Lollapalooza once or twice. But the when I didn't live here, I was here, I was came like four years in a row, five years in a row.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Last year was my second time going to Lolalo.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Right. The first time that's crazier for you. 12 or 13. And that's crazier for you. Yeah. Lollapalooza's a blast, though. I mean, I feel I will say when I was younger, Lollapalooza was definitely more fun. Like I had more, I had more patience of being in the crowd, being 19, because I was the girl that was pushing to the front and stuff. Now I'm like, bro, if it ain't VIP, if it ain't the lineups were better. Right. Dude, I literally was just thinking about that today. I like a lot of the small artists that I liked that now are kind of bigger, but still like not like huge mainstream that everyone knows with who who they are. We're all at Lolpoos at the same time. Like when you could know every single person in the small text, and my whole entire day would be busy. Like we used to have to argue about who to see. Yep. Now it's just like, okay, I only know like the people at night. And that doesn't make a good lineup. The like the headliners do not make a good lineup, dude. It has to be the smaller people because otherwise, what am I supposed to do all day?

SPEAKER_00 41:01

No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

It doesn't make it worth it. But anyways, but yeah, Lollapalooza, um, that's how I used to feel like logging in and being like, I used to be shaky. Like I used to be like, oh my God, we're gonna get tickets. Like, and it used to be again in college, I'll be getting it like for four girls, I'll be the designated one. That's a patient. And and in a dorm, it's like everyone's kind of against each other because we're on the same like IP address. Yes. And so like it's not working. I remember um the guy I did in college. We went our the year we graduated in 2016, which that line the 2016 lineup, fire.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

That's when I graduated high school. What? Great time to be alive. You graduated high school in 2016? Yeah, lame tech.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

You are only 28. I'm 28. I'm old as fuck. I'm gonna turn 28. Stop. 32. That's what it reminded me of because I like literally was like, I literally almost went on there just to try to see if I could get them just for like the sport of it. But I was like, why would I subject myself to that?

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Honestly, a brand is gonna take you.

unknown 41:56

They book it better.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

But also, again, it's on the weekend of my birthday, so it's a blessing of curse. Like when I was younger, it was great. When I was younger, it was great because I knew that that's what I was gonna do every single year. Now that I'm older, I'm like, I'd actually like to get out of the city. I actually like to get the fuck on. But now my birthday's on a Monday, so I'm like, oh, I could do both.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

You could do both. Yeah. Honestly, like when you have the free ticket, you feel way less pressure. Because you're not trying to make your money's worth. Yes. So I like strolled into Lala on the last day at like 7 p.m. or 6 p.m. I saw the Marines. They went with pop sockets. That's amazing. They're the best.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Wow. Um, okay. This was the 2016. It was their 25-year anniversary too. Actually, I want to say this 2016 was the first year that they did all that did four days instead of three, because La Blues used three.

SPEAKER_00 42:42

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

Yeah. I, yeah, that was the first year they did four days because it was their 25-year anniversary, and then they've been doing it ever since. So big deal for Elma. Look at that like that. Um, right. Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, J. Cole, Lana Del Rey, Future, Ellie Golding, Major Lasure, Disclosure, Dude, Flume, G Eazy, the 1975, Halsey, Halsey and G Eazy did two years back to back. Both of them did two years back to back. And I remember G Eazy being in a really small um side stage. And I'm like, bro, I remember one of my friends. You know how usually the cadence of Lollapalooza is if you're smart and you want to see people, you see the people like two or three, like at least one in front of them. Right. You cut them out a little. Exactly. For and then when those people leave, then you can push to the front and get closer. You can't just walk up and think you're gonna be in the front. So G Eazy went to the person right before G Eazy, and but everyone was also there for G Eazy. Of course. And so one of my friends, she literally had to get crowd surfed to the front to get out. She couldn't even like, because she was she was she was like, not, she's like, I never understood how people could get trampled. Oh, she's like, but I see it this year. Yes. But and he was on a side stage. We were like, Hello, you know, like the he shouldn't have wedding. Right. I mean, now he's kind of known void.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

That makes me sad.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Eva Flosh Trema Tramanus. Sorry, can you see? Marn Garrix. I mean, this. Was two Grimes, but still Leon Bridges, Bryson Tiller. Like, I mean, there's these people are never gonna be in the same. These are like big people now. At the time, they weren't Grizz, Big Bensa, Zoo, Mac Miller, bro. Yeah, that's what Yellowclaw Cherub Cherub Cherub. Then Staples, ASAP Ferg, Duke Dumont. And this was also peak, like Siakara.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

These are small names.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Right, right. We are down Tory lanes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Um Kalani, bro. Ex-Ambassadors. And the fact that I know all these people is kind of crazy. Marshmallow, bro. Marshmallow.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

I think 2019 was also.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Snake Hips. Yeah. 2017 was really good too. They actually, I love Lola Palooza.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

Um Love Lala. Love Lala. Even though this lineup isn't my favorite, I still love Lala.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

No, it's still gonna be fun. It's still gonna be super fun.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

Charlie XCX, Olivia Dean. Like, I'm I'm still gonna be happy.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

No, seriously. Um, actually, so this is actually what I was gonna say about uh about brand dinners and trips and events. They kind of remind me of bridal showers. Like some of them when they're just like roaming ones, like there's no structure, like I like how you said last night was like an intimate dinner, like there's more structure to it. I feel like too, like I hate a bridal shower because it is just like walk around talking, eating, and then all of a sudden there's like people talk and like you play like those games and then it's like over.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Another thing is sometimes you have to spend money to go to these things. Yes. Out, yes. 100, 200 bucks sometimes. Yes, you know, yes. Um Do they for Uber and stuff too? This one they did not.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Okay. So sometimes they do, which is sometimes they do. Which is which is nice.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

I'm actually going to Cardi B tomorrow with Senorita drinks. They are paying for my Ubers. Yes. No, at some of these things, you're out money, you have to tip the people or I will actually never do a um food collab again, I don't think. Like a restaurant collab. I'm very picky with them these days. I used to not be, but the fact that I don't and I refuse to take payment for a food collab. I will not do it. I'm not a foodie creator. Um, so I'm very picky about that.

SPEAKER_01 46:05

Yeah. But it is like you are out because like I have to pay the tip, I have to pay to get there. So like I am out money for a place I never would have really came to, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Right. And if it's a little brand event with hors d'oeuvres, like you're hungry after.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Bro, I'm not sure. You're getting a good dinner. I'm like dinner. But I'm like, what are what are the afters after this? Like I'm exactly I need some food. No, which that drop blows my mind and drives me nuts. Why isn't there food here? I know. And you're having it at six, seven o'clock. Or it's food that's very difficult to eat. Me and Sav actually um, she asked me about doing uh, or you invited me to your food collab. And I also end up having food poisoning that day.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

Yeah. I was before. It was still kind of cute. Because Angeline, Angeline and I stayed behind and we took pictures like like I wanted.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

So no, but it was, but it was, but I mean, I remember being so bummed because we had it planned, and you know me, like if I say I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna show up, whether or not I eat or not. And I literally couldn't eat anything because I was really scared about the aftermath that was gonna happen. But I mean, it was good to see you though, because it was nice to see you too. Because it was like in the very very beginning of the it was like beginning of February. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Being in February, and I hadn't, everyone was so hibernating in January. So absolutely didn't really see anyone. So it was nice seeing you, but like literally, that was the first rush of the year. Texas Sav, I was like, I am literally so sorry. I was like, I maybe just me not coming at all would have been better. But it was such a small thing that I was like, I feel like I have to go. Yeah. And I was like livable, but like every every two seconds, Sav was like, Are you okay? I'm like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:31

And I'm like, that's like the parentified child in me. I'm always like checking on the emotions of others. I'm like, are you okay? Like, am I gonna be fine? No, I love that though. And that just shows how caring and empathetic you are.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

Oh, thank you. Which is nice. So I appreciate that. Um, okay, we're gonna play a little game. Okay, call this or that. So you choose one you would rather have or your opinion or which one is better, I guess. Working for someone else or working for yourself? Working for myself with support. AK your manager.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

Manager. I have somebody that cross-posts my YouTube and Pinterest content. Um Do you? Yeah, I have like an intern, so it's very helpful.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

Yeah. That's amazing. Because I'm good for you.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

I'm so tight B, I have to delegate. Bro, but you're girl bossy and I love that. Um, coffee or matcha? Got the cito. What's your like go-to coffee order?

SPEAKER_00 48:21

Um, you know, I'm pretty basic. I like a brown sugar shake and espresso situation, honey, honey cinnamon latte. I'm a latte girl for sure. Yeah. And I'm an iced latte girl with oat milk.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Okay. So north side or west side? North or west. Yeah. At first I had old town or humble park. But I was like, let me just let me just generalize it, Northside or West Side. Or it could be Old Town or Humble Park.

SPEAKER_00 48:49

This is an interesting one. I mean, okay. I could say West Side because Humboldt Park, obviously. Right. And then we have, you know, West Town.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

It's not really West Side, but going out or staying in.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

Staying in.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

Really?

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

I feel like you go on and turn up though.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

Yeah, but I like to be inside. Okay. You like I don't recharge by being outside. I recharge inside by myself. I am, yeah. You do an extra book. I actually like banish my boyfriend from our apartment for like six hours of the day so I can recharge and do my stuff.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

See, this is why I love Sam and I love her boyfriend. She's just like, you have to go.

SPEAKER_00 49:24

Yeah, I'm like, you need to leave.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

I don't care where you go, you just can't be here.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Does he go like up like you because you have pretty good amenities, right?

SPEAKER_00 49:32

Yeah, he'll go to the amenities to work. Some he has a job too. Like he can be somebody outside. It's not my business. Go be somebody. Be somebody lock in.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

No, I love that. Uh huh. I love you, Sam. You're so funny. Thank you for joining us on Go Get Hers and coming over.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

Thank you so much. Have me back again. I like talking.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Honestly, I need to have everyone back. Like, I would love to do like a group. Can we do like a panel, like a podcast panel? Like that could be fun.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

We could.

SPEAKER_01 50:01

With like all the girls.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

That could be, dude, we could do like a live show. I'm like, how am I gonna come put that into fruition?

SPEAKER_00 50:08

We should hire like a mobile bartender to come up here and it'll be like a happy hour podcast. I actually have a plug.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

Dude, see you see why I hang out with these people because they give me business ideas. I love, I love a girl with with with with the business, with the business plan. I love that. That would be so fun, actually. Thank you again for joining us. Um, like I said, follow Sav on Instagram, Sav X Revera on Instagram and TikTok, right? Everywhere. And I guess you can follow me if you want at Lise A. Alston. And this is go get hers at go get hers podcast. Bye. Adios.