14 Years in the Making, Part 1 ft. Corinne McLochlin

What do you do when you and your bestie from college are still friends 14 years later? You have her co-host your podcast. 

Alyse's friend Corinne joins her on the show to share stories of weekends past and her perception on relationships, hot takes and more in 14 Years in the Making, part 1. 

Transcript

Corinne 0:06

Running from it. Oh, that thing I've seen bigger. Welcome back to the newest episode of Go Get Hers. My name is Corinne. We're here to report.

Alyse 0:17

What's your name? My name is Alyse Thank you for having me on the podcast. You're welcome.

Corinne 0:23

This is a big episode, guys.

Alyse 0:24

It is a very big episode. Um, Corinne, since she sometimes doesn't know when she listens, that I'm talking about her. Um, for reference, Corinne is my friend of college. That I talk about that she has really good conflict conflict resolution and that she has raised the bar on how to still be friends with someone 10 years later after you meet when you're drunk in a dorm room.

Corinne 0:47

And going to Lollapalooza. Yeah. How many years? Like four. That's three too many. But also, we would go this year.

Alyse 0:57

We would go this year. We were we were gonna go this year. We were gonna have a great time this year, actually. But one of us is unavailable.

Corinne 1:03

Isn't that crazy that Alyse is unavailable for Lollapalooza? It's me. I'm the one that's unavailable. I'm un, I was gonna say I'm unavailable. Alyse is always available because her birthday is around then. So I feel like part of Lollapalooza to you, like in your mind, I do think you've delusioned it to be like my birthday. It's all associated with it is for your birthday. Yeah. But she's also lucky because everybody knows August birthdays are like you guys are the alphas. I'm glad you said that. Not because you're a Leo, but just as a November birthday, pre-Thanksgiving. Nobody really cares. And people just want to get to Christmas. That's so good. And it's always like sleeting rain. You guys have the best weather. People are always like down to have fun because what holidays are around your birthday? Nothing. Nothing.

Alyse 1:48

But it was a blessing and a curse when I was younger because people would always be like, I'm gonna vacation. It'd be like the last vacation before school started again. Because that was also before people went back to school after Labor Day. Like people were going, we were going back to school, like how did you handle that? Dude, how do you think I handled it? That's why I started celebrating my my half birthday. Mm-hmm. Because my mom, because I would cry about the fact that I never got to take cupcakes to school.

Corinne 2:13

Wait, you started doing this when you were a child? Dude, my mom is the one that started to do that.

Alyse 2:17

Sandra birthday thing. My mom started the half birthday thing. Sandra, what have you done? She, but she is like the birthday queen. Well, okay. My birthday last year. She literally, she was like, for this to happen on your birthday is just so awful. Like she was the one that was like Should we talk about it? Yeah, we should. So last year, when I turned 31. Right. I had a dirty mind. 31. Past 30, we're adults. It never fades, dude. Being young is is on the inside. Yeah. That's true. I feel younger at 31 than I did at 29.

Corinne 2:48

That I agree with that, but like I'm sure you've mentioned it on the pod, but I'm a strong believer that it's like way better to be in your 30s than in your late 20s. Yeah. Because in your late 20s, you feel like you still have to perform like a 20-year-old. But then in your 30s, you just get to be whatever the frick you want to be. Like you don't have to, like Yeah. Who am I trying to impress? Nobody. Yourself. Yeah. We're always trying very hard to impress ourselves.

Alyse 3:12

Exactly. But then I like talk to myself very bad internally every other day. We were just talking about it. We can't impress ourselves. No, telling Karen. I think my mom is starting to realize how self-critical I am and that I am a perfectionist in all things. Like, not even just everyone around me, like myself.

Corinne 3:26

No, she truly is like you are the definition of a perfectionist.

Alyse 3:30

Yeah. And so internally, I'm like, I literally am like Alyse Alexandra all the time to myself in my apartment. I like do something dumb or drop something or whatever. I'm like, get it together. I'm like I'm very self-critical. So, right, if anyone I'm trying to impress, it's me. Okay, so my birthday. Last year, I had a dirty martini-themed birthday because I love a dirty martini. I made a like batch dirty martinis for the boat. We have a big boat thing. Like nobody does I have like a container full of like the blue cheese olives for like.

Corinne 3:59

Everything about that is wrong from the beginning. You recognize that. Like we were never set up for success.

Alyse 4:04

And we get to the boat place though, and the boat was broken. And the boat was broken. And mind you, I tell people all the time, I'm a little witchy, I'm a little woo-woo. I have a success. And for some reason, during that day, some things pop into my mind and I have to let it fleet. Because if I fixate them for too long and then it happens, I get upset. Right. So it did come into my mind, popped into my mind that day, what if the boat breaks and we can't go? But I let it flee. So I swear to God, if this happens, I'm just going to do that. There's two types of people.

Corinne 4:31

I just assume everything's gonna go perfect all the time.

Alyse 4:33

No, and I and I know that like if there's a 1% chance that something bad is gonna happen to someone, I'm the 1%. Like that's how I navigate life. I don't do risks anymore. Yeah, you're realists, but like extremists. I'm risk adverse. Yes. I I can't. We get there, and the guy's like not answering the phone. And I had texted him and be like, Can you let Sarah into the dock? And he didn't respond. So then I call him and I'm and then he's like, this other guy answered the phone and was like, Oh yeah, let me get Robert. And he basically tells me that the boat something got when they were on their way in, some seaweed or something got caught in the motor, and like we had to figure something out. And I was like, But what do you mean figure something out? Like what like what are I I need I need to know what the solutions are for me to like not lose my fucking mind. And so we ended up being able to get on someone else's boat that was the exact same boat as his, that was docked next to his. So we went out.

Corinne 5:19

It was crazy. Yeah. It was kind of like I didn't think it was gonna work out. So we were like, I thought that that was a win.

Alyse 5:25

Well, so then so all that to say is that that's when I started drinking the dirty martinis when we were waiting for the boat to come to fruition. That's when I started getting nervous. So like my blood was already boiling, and then I decided to only have a salad that day because I wanted to quote unquote look good in my right, look good in my outfit, which wasn't gonna happen anyways. Um She looked really good in her outfit.

Corinne 5:44

She did look good in her outfit.

Alyse 5:46

But so I, yeah, so I was already nervous. I already had like two martinis before we even got on the boat. We didn't do like the play pen, we did like a late night cruise. Yeah. Did the we did the river. I think the river is more fun at 31 than the playpen. Also, I don't want to get my hair wet. I'm not gonna jump in the water. So like I'd rather look cute and sail. Dude, I would look crazy. So like I wanted to like everyone get dressed up. We sail the river, we do some cute stuff. So we like docked at Pizzeria Portafny now. We also watched like the merchandise mart, um, like art on the mart display they had, and then we like we wanted to get to the fireworks because the fireworks was on a Saturday. This was like the night for my birthday. So we drink all the drinks. I mean, I'm I'm here by the time I get off the boat. You know how math works?

Corinne 6:28

It's like it's what it is. Yeah. Like it's like if you have enough to drink, you're gonna get drunk. Exactly. And she succeeded. Yeah. But like the thing about Alyse, I will always say, I was just saying this to my husband because he's also an incredible drunk. Um Alyse is an amazing drunk. Like, you are just like silly. The only thing that I say is she's like wearing rollerblades when she's drunk. Like, I don't know if you guys have heard stories, but like she's this she's just a little like the floor is lava all the time. And she's like falling into lava and docking constantly because yeah, yeah.

Alyse 7:04

I mean, I'm already like long limbed. But otherwise, yeah. And so I'm more conscious of the fact that I'm clumsy when I'm sober, but when I'm obviously drunk, like all inhibitions are lost.

Corinne 7:13

But she's like acute drunk, otherwise, like you know, she's like laughing, like like just goofy, like kind of silly dancing. Like, she's not a problem. She's not gonna pick a fight. Yeah.

Alyse 7:24

Which also, too, last year I was like in my era of always losing things. My mom also was in town, but she didn't get on the boat because she was like scared. So she's just like at my apartment chilling. So we get back to my apartment and we're like taking shots and like drinking, and we also got invited to like this Lala after party because it was Lala weekend, my birthday always falls in love with the colour. At Pearl Club, which I love Pearl Club. At Pearl Club, and it was for paper magazine, I think. So also another thing is that when I left, when I went when we docked up Pizzeria Portofino, we got the pizzas. I never paid because I ordered on the phone and they just like bring it out to your boat. So when we were sailing off into the sunset in the pitch black, they called me and they were like, Hey, uh, you never like paid. And I was like, Oh, no problem. Gave them the card number, and then I just threw my wallet in like the big bag that had the cake, you know, the dirty martinis, like everything else, whatever. So by the time we get to a Pearl Club, I don't have my wallet because it's in the bag. Or her mind. Right. And I was drunk and I was like out of my mind. I went home, took shots. Like, it's been a long day. Again, I was I only had a salad and like two pieces of pizza and a piece of cake all day. So my stomach is 90% alcohol, 10% whatever else. So I'm really, really drunk. We leave. We're not even in there for that long, I don't think. No, because I'm in there skating, like you said. I'm in there. I'm in there skating. We're in there for like 20, 30 minutes. It's like mostly Alyse's friends, and don't get me wrong, they're awesome, but I don't know any of them. And I'm just trying to like manage the storm. Right. And I can't even buffer because I'm too drunk. Yeah. Like I can't even be like, this is my friend Corinne. Yeah. Like she's having a great time.

Corinne 8:57

So we decide to leave. And I live in Lincoln Park. Normally we are like big believers in like just at a stop on the Uber. Like, even if it's mildly out of the way at night, like save a couple bones. Like make it make it smart. So we did not do this because Pro Club, I live in Lincoln Park. She lives what is it Streetersville technically?

Alyse 9:16

No, I live in River North technically. Okay.

Corinne 9:17

You should cut that because you don't want people to know how you live. I talk about it all the time. I'm a River North rat. Okay. I'm proud. Oh, that's true. You are. Yeah.

Alyse 9:23

Also, Corinne had a wedding the next day.

Corinne 9:25

Oh, I did. It was in Lake Geneva. Yeah. Yeah.

Alyse 9:27

And so Corinne like did graciously, she knew how much my birthday meant to me. And so she was like, My husband can go ahead. I'll just meet him on the day of the wedding.

Corinne 9:35

And I had been with Alyse the day prior. You remember? And we also were and we also had too much fun that night. It was stupid. Yeah. So, okay, so we we're calling separate rides. And one thing about Alyse, she's gonna sleep in the ride. I am so. Like you can count on her to sleep in the ride. I'm a sleepy drunk. Even if she's not that drunk, though. Like you just like something about them. It's like it's like calm.

Alyse 9:59

No, because it's too like because I'm already nervous about being in the plane, dude. Oh, you don't like planes? No, I get really nervous. I'm really anxious on a plane, actually. Like if there's one hint of wind, I'm looking around to see if everyone else thinks we're going down.

Speaker 10:11

And Alyse is such like a like an outwardly tough cat. Why am I calling you a cat? But like you're a cool cat. But like Alyse is so like tough that I personally like I outwardly that I love seeing her in moments like this. Maybe it's the evil in me, but anytime I've seen her, we were just laughing earlier about this one moment of weakness where she couldn't pick out an outfit because she's always got the outfits. So, anyways, I'm putting her in the ride, like physically setting her into the Uber home that I set for her. She's going back to River North and I'm going up to River or whatever, Lincoln Park in my own ride. I'm putting her in the ride. I'm putting her phone in her purse and I'm putting it to her chest, and I'm saying, don't lose it. Don't lose it, don't lose it. And what does she do?

Alyse 11:03

I get out the Uber without it. Yeah. Because I'm in my era of losing, of, of leaving things in the Uber. Because this is also a thing. I fall asleep, and then the Uber driver's like, You're here. And I'm like, all discombobulating, and I just like get out the car. Yeah. And so as soon as I got out the car though, and he pulled off, I realized my purse was in there. Also, my key is also my and and and what I thought was my wallet. So and mind you, my mom's in my apartment. The thing about your mom living states away is that you can pick and choose what you tell her and when you tell her. So like normally I would have just tried to fix it by myself. Yeah, I would have fixed it by myself and then called her about how I fixed it and how I got my purse back. I wouldn't be knocking on the door and be like, it'd be like, I don't have my keys.

Corinne 11:42

And they'd be like, I have the best daughter like that. Right, exactly. She'd be like, Well, it sounds like such a sweet little day. Right.

Alyse 11:48

She'd she'd be like, well, at least you problem solved, you know? At least she like got it back. But no, so I had to knock on the door and come face to face with her to the fact that I didn't have my keys, I didn't have my wallet, and I only had my phone. And so we kept trying to like call the Uber, like drive her back or use the app. But and then my phone locked me out. It was such a weird series of events, too, because I think her fat head. Well, I think her fat head was like in the like I think when I was like trying to do like the face ID, it kept picking up her face. And so it locked me out. She does not have a fat head. She doesn't. I love her, I love her so much. But like, but I do think like her head, no, she actually has a really minute head, which is actually funny. She does. She does have a small head. Yeah, she's very tiny.

Corinne 12:29

Yeah. Like if anyone has a fat head, it's you. Like she's got the smallest head. I know. I know. She's like a very tiny woman. Talk about projection, but a fat head picking up. Just take accountability. Your own face was probably eyes shut.

Alyse 12:47

Like, that is so true. It probably wasn't her, but I think both of us tried it. She's like, Alyse, did you see it? And I'm like, you just move your head next to the moment. So chaotic to even think about. I mean, like, let me see. I know. And so my phone locked me out until I got sober the next morning. And also, too, mind you, I think I fell asleep next to my phone. You're forgetting that Sandra called me. Oh, sorry. This is actually the funniest part. So, Corinne again, she tried her to have like some due diligence, be like, look me in the face, keep your purse, don't lose this. Here's all your stuff. So um I did. As soon as I'm like over here shaking, like, that's me. Right. As soon as I get home and she finds out that I don't have my phone and or I don't have my purse, she calls Corinne. And then what happens?

Corinne 13:34

I mean, I don't, that's really it. But she I just remember she called me and I was like, Are you serious? And I have to try to be kind because it's like 2 30 in the morning, and you're like, mom is just like trying to take care of her sweet, sweet daughter. Yeah. But in my mind, I'm like, this bitch. Like, literally, do your job. I gave one job. I called a ride before you and everything. Yeah, it's been 20 minutes. And I got a call from your mom 20 minutes later. One. Yeah. So I end up getting the purse back. But the thing that was a little rattling was that when I got the purse back, my wallet wasn't in it. And so I thought the Uber driver stole my wallet. But mind you, the wallet was in the bag from the boat because I never had enough to begin with. Because even when I went to the party, the after party, I like had to pull up my Facebook. I was like, it's my birthday right now, today. Let me in. And they were like, you know, right, fine. Because I didn't have my ID. It was so stupid. Like the whole thing was just, you know. I couldn't believe they let you in. I know. Because she was roller skating to go in.

Alyse 14:33

Yes. And I had on heels, and you know, I was wearing like this bright green color. So like it wasn't like I was like inconspicuous or like blended in with the background or anything. Like it was like very, you know, you could see me. Yeah. Like a mile away, you could see me skating. So it was iconic though. All I have to say is this is why Alyse doesn't drink that much anymore as I'm drinking the beer.

Corinne 14:50

But um No, we keep it casual though. Yeah, we keep it casual. We have lots of stories like that just being in casual.

Alyse 14:55

Which that is why Corinne thinks this is a really interesting thing about me, that I don't go out on Saturdays anymore.

Corinne 15:02

It was so crazy to me because like Alyse's lifestyle, she's not like a must-be drunk, but you're always up to something. Yeah. And I just didn't realize that you your weekends are strategically built. Like to do nothing. To do nothing. Yeah. Friday. Normally always Friday plans.

Alyse 15:20

Friday sometimes. Okay. But I'm not right. But if if someone asks me to do something on a Friday, I will. But like I don't go down my way out of my way to find like to have Friday plans.

Corinne 15:30

Yeah, that was really wild to me.

Alyse 15:31

So why do you do it that way? Because I think for me, like during the week, I'm already. I do most of my plans during the week, really. But I think it's because I A work from home. So I like have a little bit more of a Of a what? Like a of a of a span. Like I don't I feel like commuting would make me be like, I don't want to leave again. For sure. Like it commuting is exhausting. Especially in Chicago, if you're commute, like if you're commuting from the suburbs, like that's a lot. If you're even commute if, dude, if I had to commute 20 fucking minutes, I'll be like, like, you know what? Never mind. Like, I want to go out. So I think because I work from home and I'm already social. Like I already have like meetings, I already have whatever, then I'm like, let's just add on top of it. Right. Yeah. Like I might as well. And then I live by myself. I am like an introverted extrovert, which means that I recharge by being by myself. But I am really social. Then I'm like, I don't have I can do slow mornings. I can do whatever I want. I can catch up on work. I can do X, Y, and Z on the weekends. And I know that by the time Monday I know that if I'm hung over on Sunday. Uh so it's gonna it's gonna bleed into Monday. And so at least if I only drink on Friday, it'll bleed into Sunday to where I can then like maybe by five o'clock still like get some shit done and I'll be ready for Monday.

Corinne 16:44

Yeah. So you have to be ready by Monday. Yeah. Because otherwise then you're just like behind. Yeah, it's not like not that work doesn't matter, but like you don't want to be catching up on your life stuff while you're also trying to like focus on work. Mondays are just the worst to begin with. They don't need to get worse. The worst. You know what? Okay, I have a question. So I heard this one time, and I think it's like so true for me. You said you're an introvert, extrovert.

Alyse 17:06

Yeah.

Corinne 17:06

So I what type of person do you think you are? Do you think you start with an empty cup and as you engage with people, your cup gets filled? Or do you think you start with a full cup and as you engage with people, your cup gets empty? Because I'm that one. Like I'm the second one total. Okay. Like because some people, like Devin, my husband, like hey, um, he like it, he could just go all day because he's just literally like his battery is just like failing every social interaction he has. Yeah. I'm the opposite. Like I have a stamina, and eventually, like, I kind of feel like Alyse and I get that way, even when we go out together, we suddenly look at each we'll be talking nonstop. Like to be clear, we've been together for like an hour and a half already. And before this started, we talked nonstop. That's true. But then we'll get to like I was like, damn, we should just record the podcast as we're walking around. We said some good stuff. Exactly. We did. Wait, okay, side note. I'm gonna just totally take us off course. We should tell that story about the one time we got called funny and we think about it forever. So we we say it all the time. We're like, people think we're funny. People tell us that all the time we're out is that we're funny. Yeah. If one person told us that three years ago. Well, here's why we hold on to it because it was like you tell the story, but it was like such a good story. Um Cubs game.

Alyse 18:21

Yeah. So we were going to the Cubs game. Corinne lives in Lincoln Park, that's like on the way to the Cubs, um, like off of a particular stock. So I I think I walked to your house, or I took the train, walked to your house, and we got back on the train. And I don't know what we were talking about though, but we were like standing up and it was kind of crowded, and we were like cracking up about something though. Yeah. So then we went to the game, left the game, went to Murphy's bleachers, and this guy came up to us and was like, and we were probably standing there laughing again about something. Sure. And this guy came up to us at the bar and was like, You guys are so funny. He was like, You guys are actually hilarious. Like I was actually with you guys on the train and thought you got your guys' conversation was so funny.

Corinne 19:01

Our ego literally splattered the walls.

Alyse 19:03

Oh. And then too, I think he told us, I mean, this was also two before you were engaged, obviously, I think, but he was like, like he was trying to flirt. Then it goes into like, how do you guys know each other? How like whatever. And me and Kriner, they're just there to get free shots and drinks. Like that's like our MO if we're like out. If a guy approaches us, that's our MO. Yeah.

Corinne 19:22

And so he Well, for at least we're sussing it out. But the suss the sussing period is like 10 seconds. Right. Because you can, let's be honest, you can usually tell. Like nobody, yeah, I don't change my mind about somebody. No. If they come up and they're weird to begin with, I'm like, you're weird, when's my chat coming? Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 1 19:39

Right. Like, let's expedite this. Where is the where's the drink? Give me the drink now.

Alyse 19:46

Shut the fuck up. I don't care. Right. I don't the small talk. Order the drink and then do the small talk, and then I can leave when the drink comes. Totally. Like if you take too long, I'm just gonna ask for it. Exactly. Yeah, we're gonna be like, are you ordering shots? Like Should we do shots? I mean, we're we're honestly terrible. But that usually is how it goes. We met a finesse and are we safe though?

Corinne 20:10

Boys aren't listening to this, right? So we're safe. Just thinking about like boys though when it didn't work out. Oh do you remember the the engagement time when I like started to tell a story about how I was engaged? Oh and the guy literally just it was so funny.

Alyse 20:26

Oh my god, it was the night before my birthday. It was it was what we were just we were just talking about. It was because we were at the carryman. Yeah, it was it was one of the we went to. Which we love the carrymen. I think the carryman's the best place. Even my mom, I've taken my mom to the carrion a couple times. She even thinks it's the best place. It's perfect because they have all the upstairs, like music's pretty decent. They have, I mean, their drinks are really, really good. And their food is good. Like every time I have someone Yeah, the food is good there. Every time I have someone come and we're like, let's just do like something casual in between. I take it to the carryman.

Corinne 20:53

Devin didn't know what this phrase was. No frills. Like, it's just an you don't know what no frills means. Do you know what frills is? Okay, like frills on like a dress or something. It's like think like lace or like just like frill frilly. Yeah, yeah. No frills means it's like no BS, right? So it's just like no bullshit. Okay, I feel like that's what that place is. It's like, here's your good drink, here's a lot of places to sit and get your good drink. I love it. Yeah. So, anyways, we're there, and Alyse is getting hit on by somebody. 100% it was you getting hit on by that wonky man. We're not gonna say he wasn't wonky. His buddy came up, and his buddy's shorter than me, which like for reference, I'm five three, so sorry, buddy, you're gonna have a long life. Right. Long life. So, like they're talking to us, and we're just being nice, and I'm talking telling some story. And I mentioned, like, oh yeah, my fiance and I fiance and I went there, and he literally doesn't say a word, just turns and beelines away. Doesn't say goodbye, doesn't say, I thought I had a chance, or just beelines away. It's just like that's my cue. And I I honestly kind of love that.

Speaker 1 21:57

It's respectful because most guys. Are like because we have to tell the no boo story.

Speaker 22:02

Okay.

Alyse 22:03

Because that was some bullshit.

Speaker 22:04

That was crazy. That was a crazy thing.

Alyse 22:06

Because because some guys are respectful and it's like, okay, I'm like, right, like this is not what I want to engage in. Like she's clearly taken. Other guys use it as a challenge.

Corinne 22:20

What do they use it as? A challenge. I do think it's an age thing. I do too. Because when I so true. When I think about the moments when people lose respect, it's kind of like the older dads who I sense haven't gone out in a long time. So their relationship with alcohol is all messed up. So when they get drunk, they're like, I don't even want to go down the path. But I feel like they got wives, they got things, they got problems. And so yeah, we had a very interesting very what I don't even remember how it started.

Alyse 22:49

Um well, also too, mind you, this is Corinne scootered from Lincoln Park too.

Corinne 22:54

In heels. I was really, I was actually really proud of myself for doing that. Because if you live in Lincoln Park or like just the northern suburbs or Hollywicker or anything, like you know that like rush hour rides, not only are they gonna be kind of expensive, but you're also gonna wait a long ass time. Like it was like 40 bucks and it was gonna be a 15-minute wait, and I was gonna get there late. And have you talked about your like etiquette thing yet? Have you gone on a rant? Oh no. I mean, everyone knows I'm like very type type A and I'm very timely. Even Corinne today said she was early.

Alyse 23:25

I was 20 minutes early because in my my uh I got a ride um from my husband, and on the way here, he was like, um, he was like, You're gonna be early. Like, should we stop and get a coffee? And I'm like, I don't want to be late. Yeah, she's like, so the thing about Alyse is that you can be early, but God forbid you're late.

Corinne 23:41

And I'm often late, and you're pretty like brush it off. Yeah, but yeah, maybe like a month. Yeah, maybe I wonder why I'm time late. I'm not scared.

Alyse 23:50

You gotta you gotta ask for what you want. You gotta you gotta ban you gotta ban that.

Corinne 23:54

We did give me a boundary and I follow the boundary.

Alyse 23:56

But it's not even But this is the thing. If we have wiggle room, that's fine. Yes, me and Karen also like make we do this thing, I think, where we make like loose-ish plans. Like Yeah. Like we have a dinner reservation, but we're like, we'll meet up like an hour, hour and a half before. So if we're running late for that, like who really cares? Yeah. Like because we're not gonna be late for the reservation.

Corinne 24:16

That's true. We do always do that. Do some people just meet at dinner? Or would you always get a drink somewhere beforehand? I feel like you usually get a drink somewhere beforehand, maybe. Yeah, you can't do it.

Alyse 24:24

But we but we usually do like one of our apartments or something. I think that's why too. Yeah. We do whoever's closer.

Corinne 24:29

Alyse is also just like a very good drink maker.

Alyse 24:31

Except I did I had to make up a drink that I made really bad two years last year. Literally, yeah, two years ago. Last year. Was it last year? Yeah, it was when you got married, before you got married. Oh my gosh. Okay. Because remember it was right after your bachelorette party. I don't really remember that well. But I love this story. It was so it was right after her bachelorette party because I ran into care because this is the thing about me and Corinne we actually don't as of until recently, we don't see each other that much. So me seeing her at her bachelorette party, which was already too many days too long, kind of. Not really. But like for us. It was like we were ready. But like, right But there was also like what nine other people. How many people did you have? Ten? Eight? Yeah, yeah, it was it was nine. Yeah. And so us, we would never normally see each other again the next weekend. Right, exactly. The next weekend. But I ran into her like on the street. Like she was at Fair Fireplace in, I was at Topio, Topo Gigi or whatever. But anyway.

Corinne 25:24

Your like yours is way better. Why was I at Fireplace? Anyways. Oh, I'm not sure. Because you were on the bachelor's bachelorette, which I wasn't even in the bachelorette. Don't get me started. Okay, yeah.

Alyse 25:32

But anyway, so we were really drunk. We went to Corinne's house. Her husband had like friends over.

Corinne 25:37

Yeah. Like guys and girls over. They're all just like doing guys and girls stuff, whatever. And Alyse and I come in nice and drunk, and we start talking about. I start talking Alyse up for drink making.

Alyse 25:50

Yeah.

Corinne 25:51

Because she is good at making drinks. I was, I was like making people welcome drinks on her bachelorette.

Alyse 25:56

Yeah. It would be like when people like there was a whole other group of people who came a little bit later because their flight got delayed. I had their drinks ready. I made everyone else drink.

Corinne 26:04

But it's just like who she is. She's like I love making drinks. That's my I think I actually think it is. Like you don't need a seventh love language, and that's that one. Yeah.

Alyse 26:12

I feel like it's like this is making sense like I feel like that also just goes under like acts of service. Yeah. What do you think? It's my giving one. My receiving one is acts of service now. It's like what what can you take off my plate? Well, this is the thing about age. Physical touch and quality time is the bottom of the fucking barrel. Don't concern physical touch. It's it's right, it's the bottom of the fucking barrel. Um, love languages. Like if a guy says that that is their love language, well, no duh, because you're freaked out. And we get it. Like we know that. That's everyone's love language. They like to be touched to a degree. Like, there's a time and a place. Me and Karen were actually just talking about this. I do enjoy physical touch from my partners, my friends. Don't touch me. Don't hug me. I don't want to engage physical touch.

Corinne 26:57

She's not as mean as she sounds. Like you can touch her. Yeah. But she just like is one of those people, like, she doesn't need like. No. And I don't think I give that. Please don't.

Alyse 27:06

And I don't even give that, though. I don't think. Like, I don't give, like, give Alyse a hug. No, you give it to you. You know, like I don't get that. And like I don't give a shit. I would shake your hand before I give you a hug. Like, I don't give welcome energy, but for like my partners, I'm like, no, I want to be like in your skin. Yes. Like that is the difference. Yes. So I think men that are like, when people are like quality touch and qual physical touch, quality time, like, duh, you want to spend time with your partner. Duh, you want to touch your partner. But like, let's get into the actual the nitty-gritty of like what your love languages should be, which are acts of service, gifts, or words of affirmation. Those will only be time. We're saying that's just move. Right. That's just like no shit. Duh. Okay. Right. Right. Okay. Like being when you're an adult, those are the there's, there's three, not five.

Corinne 27:55

Well, sometimes I think that's why celebrities last together for so long is because they don't have quality time. So I feel like their partner's always an enigma. Like I feel like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, do they even know each other? Like now they spend more time together though.

Alyse 28:09

Because like he's not playing and she's like not.

Corinne 28:12

Isn't he gonna play?

Alyse 28:12

But like he's like had like a lull or whatever. Yeah, you're right. He did. Oh, so we don't know these people, so I actually don't know.

Corinne 28:18

Yeah, like I don't know. My sweet personal friend Taylor um said, but I just like they don't, they can't. They're always like, you know, or same thing as like Timothy. I watched um what's that weird ass movie? Marty Supreme. Did you watch that?

Alyse 28:30

That movie's so stupid. I was like, I literally was like it's not stupid. It's not stupid, but you I didn't watch the whole thing because you know because you know me, because after a while I'm like, I can't go on another journey with him. Because it's just too chaotic.

Corinne 28:43

It reminded me of the bear. Like it reminded me so much of the bear where there's just like so much yelling, there's always something happening, which I know people love the bear, but I also think people that love the bear are mostly like I think the Midwest is keeping the I do love the bear. Don't get me wrong, but it's a lot of yelling. Like after a long day, you just want to go watch people yell in the kitchen and be like kind of depressed. Well, I get why service people don't do it.

Alyse 29:08

They don't watch it because it's like too overstimulating. And it's and it's too close to home. Right, and it's like too close to home. Because then it is like exactly how, oh dude, every like, okay, so low-key I'm in this group chat on Facebook, or not this group chat, in this um Facebook group. And it's like Facebook, and it's like Chicago industry people. And it's like how did you oh, because because you're technically in the industry? No, I don't know how. I I applied to be in it like two years ago and I just I don't say a word. I don't say a fucking word. Because I don't like a thing because I don't want anyone to be like, who is this? It kicked me out. There's someone going through the case. Yeah, I'm like I'm like I'm like undercover in there. It feels like and so I can't even know you're discovering. So and so I do get sometimes like very good um insight into how they're feeling. How they're feeling, the drama that's going on with restaurants. Kind of want to get into this group chat. You should.

Corinne 29:58

And unlike my inviting people and post something controversial. You know what I mean? Just to like get them started. Just being like the fries, just being like the fries from who is good fries are not good. Right. And they're like it will blow up.

Alyse 30:11

Or people or people will ask like for recommendations and they'll like again, what will help nothing. Yeah. It's really interesting. Okay.

Corinne 30:19

Anyways, how do we even get here? No, we're actually was thinking to myself, Alyse, no story's gonna be finished. I know. Like, no story. I know, we're gonna have to cut it off. Okay, so yeah, it's fine. We're having fun. Well, I'm having fun. No, it's fun. So, um, but we were talking about going to the Cubs game, and the guy was funny. Nope, that's not what we were talking about.

Alyse 30:35

No, we were talking about the drinks. No, we we left we the unfinished story was about the drinks. What drinks? About me making the drink for Devon.

Corinne 30:43

Oh my gosh, that was so far away. We're never ever gonna be able to connect.

Alyse 30:49

Which really, though, after sometimes after I leave Corinne, I'm like, I forgot to tell her about something, or I forgot to say this about something. Like I do feel in my mind I reflected, I'm like, damn, we didn't wrap this up.

Corinne 30:58

Yeah, because I think we see each other often enough where we can stay relevant, but not so often that we can stay caught up. And then sometimes I think we're just trying to impress the other person by being funny. So we waste more time on the bit actually telling the story, you know? Like we diverge. Okay. So the end of the story is that I'm like talking to Lisa, like she makes the sickest, best drinks ever. And so she goes over there, she's got all the stuff. She's like, I'll make you guys some old-fashions, whatever, makes them. And I'm just talking about, aren't they great? You probably made everyone like two, three. Like there was specifically these like two boys that she was making them for.

Alyse 31:34

Well, I made, yeah, I made everyone else like something. And I liked mine. Corinne and them, they don't have the necessary materials and the tools, though.

Corinne 31:41

I'm pretty sure what you need is alcohol.

Alyse 31:44

No, yeah, you didn't have bitters, you didn't have old fashioned. I think I made like it was like bur. I think it's like bourbon, lemon, and then they didn't have like a gas something. And then they didn't no, and then all they have were like frozen berries, so I put like a black berry on top. It was very fucking stupid.

Corinne 31:59

And also I have this video on Snapchat, don't ask me why, of you just like going to pour it into a drink and just missing, and it just like a full thing is like guzzling everywhere. We sound like all we do is get wasted. I swear we don't.

Alyse 32:12

Yeah, and then mind you too, I'm like texting my ex-boyfriend and I'm like, Oh yeah, haha, I'm like making these. You were FaceTiming him. Yeah. Dude, it was a whole it was a whole thing.

Speaker 32:21

No, it was that reminds me of the story. Wow, we have so many drunk stories of the I love the story of the when we went to Rhino Bar and after that we were just talking about that.

Alyse 32:31

Um yeah, the one time me and Corinne went on a double date.

Corinne 32:34

It ended exactly how you would imagine. Exactly. Okay, but wait, just to go back to finish the story. Also, this is supposed to be Corinne like interviewing me, and we're just gonna just telling our favorite stories. End of that one story that is literally from 30 minutes ago is I find out the next day, I'm like, isn't Alyse so good at making drinks? Like, I'm such a good friend, by the way. Like, I'm just talking about it. And and he's like, Are you serious? He's like, Those are the worst drinks ever. Johnny and I have been talking about it. I'm like, what? And then Which for me to find that out was very heartbreaking.

Alyse 33:09

Yeah. Like that's like the worst thing I've ever wanted to do. And of course I ran and told her. Because I but you didn't tell me till like a year later. Yeah. I just found out this out like three months ago. I didn't realize it waited that long. Yeah, like I was because two, then because it was before your wedding. So then at mind you, at the wedding, they're still affirming to me that the drinks were good. Like they it was like a ruse. It was like a it was like they literally thought like I just found this out.

Corinne 33:33

They were fucking with you, probably.

Alyse 33:35

No, but I no, they were probably trying to be nice. This is the thing, I'm gullible. Like, I I am a chronic truth teller. And so I assume everyone's telling me the truth.

Corinne 33:43

Yeah, I don't love that they lied, but also I'm like, they uh they didn't know you that well. So what are they supposed to do? I guess.

Alyse 33:48

But I was right, and I literally told Devon. I was like, I would rather you tell me the truth. Like, yeah, I would have been pulled up.

Corinne 33:55

And it's interesting because Devon would, you would think, tell the truth. But anyways, me and Devin have an interesting relationship. Yeah, what do you describe your relationship with my husband?

Alyse 34:04

I feel like even though you guys have been together for so long, I mean you have friends, me and you have been friends for so long. I feel like my first time I talked to him was like last year. Like I feel, and mind you, Devin has I've been to the bar with him before. We've met up with Devin before, like we've gone out with Devin before. Um Yeah, he came to like one of my ex-boyfriend's birthday parties before. Like I've been around Devin. I but I truly to my core feel like I just was the first year I ever met him. Did you like him when you talked him? I yes, I will say Corinne's husband makes me think that men can reevaluate their priorities. Not that there was anything wrong with him. So I just think it's like an age thing. I do think like it just m it just shows you that like men do grow up eventually. Yeah. And one day they do just wake up and realize that like I need to get my shit together and I need to be more responsible. And that's what I I feel like her husband is like a testament to that.

Corinne 35:01

Although he's gonna listen to the if he if you put that part in and he listens to it, he's gonna be like, I'm gonna go to the bar. He's gonna be like, Oh, I'm forever young.

Alyse 35:10

I just I know he's the only one that would think that this is like a negative thing to say.

Corinne 35:13

Which is that's like the best comp for me. It's such a good compliment.

Alyse 35:15

From me, especially is the best compliment you're ever gonna get.

Corinne 35:17

Yeah. He's like the best dude ever, but the man does like love to have a good time, which have you ever heard that stuff? It's like, why do you um like the things that you start to be with someone for, like, and then eventually you resent it? Like you've heard I'm saying it really bad. No, no, no, that's exactly what it is. But you get it. That's exactly what it is. And I sometimes have to remind myself, like, part of what I loved about him is that he's like this outgoing motherfucker, but then like sometimes I'm like, dude, I don't I can't be around people again. Like whenever we go anywhere. He's like always down to do everything all the time. He's a yes man, and he makes me feel like I'm a no girl sometimes. That's okay.

Alyse 35:53

Well, you're but you've I just think we've we've chilled out though.

Corinne 35:56

We have, we have. Like, we've chilled out. Even though Alyse wanted to have a 4 a.m. night with me Friday. There was a reason though. Well, she just really was like craving, which I do love our 4 a.m. nights.

Alyse 36:09

Well, we haven't had one since what? In a long time. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad in hindsight, I'm glad I didn't because I like didn't wake up on Wober. Yeah. So I was like ready.

Corinne 36:18

No Tao, no red-headed piano bar.

Alyse 36:21

No, because one time me and Corinne really did. I can't I feel like I can't say this without I live around the Tao area, okay, in River North. That's why it's always kind of inconspic.

Corinne 36:29

Like it's the love of mom's place.

Alyse 36:31

Yeah, like it's not very clear what neighborhood I live in sometimes. That's why she was like, is it Streeterville technically? Because I do live like on the cusp of like three different uh neighborhoods.

Corinne 36:40

But if you're walking distance to Michigan Ave and it's like not that far, that's when it gets a little confusing.

Alyse 36:45

Well, I just think I always think of it as the fact that Michigan Ave divides River North from Streeterville. Like the left of the left if you're looking at the grill. The left of Michigan Ave is River North, the right is Streeterville. Then the cutoff from that is like um like Street Beach.

Corinne 37:03

Yeah. Okay.

Alyse 37:04

That's how I learned something new. And so um I went to We we went to Tao. Yeah, well we we we were on we did the thing where we shared an Uber. We were gonna drop me off and then drop Corinne off. Oh, yeah. And then in the Uber, we literally were like, should we go to Tao? Yeah. And then we literally got out at my place, walked through the back door, and went to town, and ended up in like some basketball players' section at like 2 a.m. for no reason. Yeah. Like it was like we do random shit. For no reason. Like emphasis on like no reason. The thing about Corinne is that she's so funny, is that she thinks that we when we go out on the Wangin Hill.

Corinne 37:35

She does. She does. Alyse has this, like, it it's like this stink or something that like hot or not. It's not true. Yes, it is. It's something about it. Whether it's my worst day or not, it's like it it's something about her. I swear. I'm like, how did we get to talking to this? Like, remember when we went to that Cubs game and that like 50-year-old like white man, which I would just think like you were his dream girl. The way he kept coming up to you, and it was so amazing because she was like kind of talking to her boyfriend again. My ex her ex again. And so he was there with us. And this like older man just kept coming up, like, and the thing about me is that I am a perpetual man hater.

Alyse 38:14

And I don't No. No, but I don't hate wait. No. But I don't, but I don't shock, but I don't disguise that when I'm dating the guy either. That like I like you, but other every other guy I like don't really like. Yeah, yeah. Um, and so I think that's why he knows when I go out and like I'm nice to a guy, he finds it funny. Yeah. But what are you gonna say about me not being a man hater?

Corinne 38:34

No, I want I want you to acknowledge the truth.

Alyse 38:42

And I lead on that I'm not, but actually I'm very, very sweet to men.

Corinne 38:46

Well, I also, okay, yes, that's what I was gonna say, but I was also gonna say, put one, put three sips of alcohol. Like, I always say that, like, I can always tell when Alyse is drunk because she gets so nice to men. Like, as soon as guys walk over and like Alyse is like, hi, I'm like, oh, you're gone. You're toast. You're so nice to them. They are the thing is, like, as somebody who's married to like an amazing dude that like on paper, like he's just like the boy you would see at the bar, you'd be like, This guy's trouble, whatever. Yeah, like there are good dudes out there. But we love to talk shit about them because a lot of it is like what were you saying about just men in clusters? Like, what are you doing out?

Alyse 39:30

Oh, you're up to no good. Corinne's husband is the only guy that I know that him and his friends like love spending time together, that they really enjoy spending time together, but they go out of their way to spend time together.

Corinne 39:39

Because Alyse like is so sus.

Alyse 39:41

Like, you're very suspicious of when I see a group of guys out, I'm like, what are you guys doing out? What are you out doing? Like, it gives it like it literally confuses me. No, it's they're just like girls. Yeah, I'm like, they're up to something. Like, why is there a group of guys out right now? Like, what are you guys out here? Like, what is the purpose in congregating in this bar at this moment? Like, are you looking for girls? Are you looking to cheat on your wife? Like, I really am like I I am suspicious, but Corinne's husband makes me realize that, like, no, some guys actually are just out to have fun and just they happen to be at the bar. They just have boys. Yeah, so they they do really enjoy hanging out, and it is actually really, really cute when you know one that's doing it for the right reasons. Yeah. I I enjoy hearing about him being with his friends.

Corinne 40:25

Like on Friday, they were they were on his buddy's rooftop, all in the hot tub, playing Mario Kart. Like, you just can't And me and Corinne were out the bar.

Alyse 40:34

So I mean, like, I love that it's like a reverse situation. We don't have to worry about them. And then too, when we FaceTimed him, he was like, hey, and he's like in in the hotel. He's literally in the hot tub. Like should meet 10 boys in a crowded hot tub. Yeah, this is the thing about men. When they go on bachelor parties, why is there always some women in the mix? When girls go on bachelorette parties, they're not looking. I'm not looking to congregate and be talking to men. When I go out to dinner with my friends or go to the bar, I'm going there purposely to be with my friends. Like I'm going there to spend time with my friends. If a guy comes up and buys me, again, drop the shot and I need you to go.

Corinne 41:07

Alyse, when we went on my bachelorette, there were men involved. Not for Corinne, luckily. I was in the past. No, yeah, we have like three or four. No. Oh, wait. You're talking about me? Yeah. Again, Alyse hates men. She hates them. I just like think the best part about it is like why you guys even started clicking. It's because I was hating on men. It's because she was hating on men. And it was his friends. And it was his friends, and he was like, same. Yeah. And she's like, oh, I like I like that. Okay, would you rather go to a brand new curated cocktail bar or a staple like dive beer bar that you just know and love? It's your last day on earth.

Alyse 41:54

Dive bar.

Corinne 41:55

Why?

Alyse 41:56

Because dive bars to me are more fun and I can spend all day at them. You know, like I feel like at dive bar you can mix and match what you're drinking. Cocktail bar, not really. Like if I go to a dive bar and be like, okay, I'm starting with a cider. Then I'm gonna move on to a beer. Then I'm moving on. Then then as the day goes on, I'm like, you know what, let's pick it up and not a cocktail. Right, then I'm getting a shot. If it doesn't have fireball, I actually don't want to go. That's actually my hot take.

Corinne 42:26

That is like such a hot take. That's so distressing. Fireball is so good.

Alyse 42:30

You have to, dude, you have to go back to your roots, dude.

Corinne 42:32

College, we were all. My roots are not fireball. Oh.

Alyse 42:35

What are they?

Corinne 42:38

No. Probably just like whatever I found in somebody's cabinet at the house party. Okay, next. I like Michigan or Chicago. That's a good question. Michigan or Chicago? Don't be wrong. Honestly, Michigan. Say more. Why? Because you loved Chicago. I know. You love Chicago.

Alyse 42:58

But in terms of longevity, I think Michigan. I think Michigan is like arguably the best state in the U.S. And I think there's much more. Like I like Chicago for only Chicago. I hate Illinois. I hate Illinois. Love Chicago. I love Michigan as a whole. Yeah. Because like I love Detroit. I love Travis City. I love Torch Lake. I love South Haven. I love Lant. Like I like more. Keep going. What else do you like? Right. Those are all the cities. Those are all cities. There's so many. The only cities I know.

Corinne 43:24

Yeah.

Alyse 43:24

Like I love where I grew up. Like I grew up in like the metro area of Detroit.

Corinne 43:27

And there really, yeah, there really is. Like people sleep on like Detroit. They just like look at it. Just like I feel like people are like, um, I love when people say, Oh, Chicago's so high crap. I'm like, thank you. Keeping the rent a little bit cheaper for us. Like keep saying that because it is going up. Yeah. Yeah. Like, just keep like keep saying that bullshit. Because it's not not true. Exactly. But like at the same time, like chill out. And same thing with Detroit. Like it's really, it's beautiful. When I went there, I loved it. Yeah. Okay. So Michigan, what about this is an interesting one. Dr. Dirty Martini or Espresso Martini? I actually really don't know this answer for you. Do you even know the answer for this?

Alyse 44:04

No. Dirty martini, I guess. Like it, yeah, because if you had to pick, you don't always want to. Because I could drink four dirty martinis. I only drink like two espresso martinis. But this is the thing about me, and I really hate this about myself. And I think this is like I hate to get too much into astrology, but I do think it is a Gemini moon thing. When I like something, I beat into the ground.

Corinne 44:24

You're gonna ruin it.

Alyse 44:26

And that right, and then and then I drop it like it never existed. Yeah, so you feel that way about espresso? Yeah. I kind of feel like you were getting a lot of espresso martinis.

Corinne 44:34

And now I'm like, But they're kind of like a strong. They're kind of like. I haven't had one in a long time, actually. Like I only have one when I feel like I need a kick. Yeah, like if I go out and I know I'm like gonna have a long night, you start with a dirt you start with espresso martini. And then to give you the up, and then you kind of ride it. You know Yorkie dogs? That's why I remind myself of the dog. I had a Yorkie. Not too much on Yorkies. Okay, that's fair. But she was precious. She was, okay. Um, but like maybe not Yorkies, but like just little dogs that yap a lot. Yeah. Because I don't what's her name? She didn't really yap yap that much, did she? Cassie? No. Yeah, she didn't really yap. But like that's how I feel after an espresso martini. But you don't have that, like, it's actually a science thing, right?

Alyse 45:14

Like you're like the caffeine thing. There's something. I have a um, I could drink an espresso martini and be asleep two minutes later. Because I have it's like your hormone called adenosine or something. Sciencey. And so that's what gets stimulated when you have caffeine. Do you really just know that you study human biology? I have said that before. Maybe I forgot. Maybe I think I'm just like a big fat dummy that drinks.

Corinne 45:39

Why do you have to be all three of those things? Big fat dummy. Big fat and dumb.

Alyse 45:44

And a drunk. Yeah and a drunk.

Corinne 45:46

Oh, and drunk. Yeah. That was a good one. Yeah. I thought that was a common one. But um Okay, you were saying. Yeah, but I you have that whatever, that elsewhere.

Alyse 45:54

So when you so when you start with A. But when you when you over when it gets overstimulated, it droops. Does the opposite. Yeah, it droops. And so I can have like, I know that if I have coffee in the morning, then I have Espresso Martini. And then I have Espresso Martini, and then I have another espresso martini. It's not gonna give me the up that I want.

Corinne 46:17

Like it's too, it's too much coffee. You also just like, this is something because you think that I don't know drinks. Like you know what you want to drink. Like I feel like you can look at the menu and why are you making that face report?

Alyse 46:31

Here we go.

Corinne 46:32

No, I feel like you know though. I think I should probably say thanks to my listeners. Right, exactly. And all my, you know, all my followers for listening to my pod. Um this has been episode one with Corinne. Yeah. Of five years. We're gonna do a part two. Yeah. Okay. And um I think that's it. Like, sorry for talking about drunk stuff too much, but like, as you can tell, like we spent I met her when I was 18. True. Like, which we do should get into like how we met those yeah. We should. And we we don't do a good job. Like we always like she always tells her mom, and it's so true, like we resort to our college ways sometimes when we're together.

Alyse 47:11

Oh, my mom is usually concerned. When I'm like, I'm going out with Corinne, she's like, Oh god, here we go.

Corinne 47:16

Yeah, who's crazier in college? We don't know. We need to end the episode. Well, we'll see it next. We'll see it too. Dun, dun, dun, place your place your votes.

Alyse 47:25

Right.

Corinne 47:27

Okay, well, anyways. Okay, see you guys next week. Yeah, see you next week.