The Amish vs. Furries & The Worst First Date Ever

This episode starts with a completely normal discussion about the Amish versus furries and somehow end up unpacking Ari’s worst first date ever. The scary part? Every time you think the story has peaked, another plot twist appears. At a certain point, it stops being a date story and starts feeling like a survival story! 

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Welcome to the Talk Talk Talk Over Podcast. Before we get into it, this episode is sponsored by Joe Louise Beauty. Welcome back to the pod. Welcome back, everyone. Happy Wednesday Wednesday. I love to see it. Same, how the hell are you? I'm so good. So glad. You look great. I'm feeling jealous of your sweatshirt right now. I already have one, but I was looking at a blue striped one, like the other they have two. I know the baby blue one. And I kind of want to go back and get it. You can't go wrong with that. I kind of want to get another one because this is my new staple sweatshirt. Okay. Like same. It's from Aerie for anyone. Let me get the other color. Let me tag you guys in my shop, Mile. Yeah. Make sure you go to her link first. Please. Guys, you know what I also love? There's been a major break in women's health. Oh. Shocker alert. Wait, this is great news. Shocker alert. Wait, is it about keep going. I know what it's about. Yes. I was thinking about you all day. You were. So, okay, so I have PCOS, which is like a polycystic ovarian syndrome. Yes. So when you hear that, you're like, what the heck? Must have just ovaries, you know? Right. Something like that. With cysts. Exactly. She must have cysts on her ovaries. Yeah. And so they have renamed it. Because PCOS is not just that. Right. It's a hormonal imbalance. Like there's a lot of different things that go into it. The cis is just maybe some of people get it. The cis is like the cyst. Is like the factor. Yeah, the one cis you have. Is like a factor within that, but it's not the whole thing. That one, yeah, that makes so much more sense. Yeah. So they renamed it. I was so excited. I was like, wait, this is Ari. This is Aries. Yeah. So they're because you have a job. Breaking news. I don't have a job, so I see everything. Breaking big news for the employee. So it was called PCOS, but now it's PMOS, which is a polyendrocrine metabolic ovarian syndrome. It's a little bit longer to say. Wait, say that again. Don't make me say again. PolyendroS. PMOS. So it's polyendro endocrinin. I'm gonna kill my door. We're gonna stick with PMOS. Okay, it's PMOS. Everywhere. Metabolic ovarian syndrome. There you go. Basically, it's like the like the fluctuation of hormones. Right. But like after they've actually done some research and being like, oh maybe that's wow. That's actually more to this. It took fucking long enough. That's awesome. So they're doing more research into it, but it's nice to know that they like are actually looking into it. Because like it's the stats, the stats, the stats for this are actually crazy. Like, I didn't know, like, when I first found out I had it, I like thought no one. You were like, I'm the only one. I'm the only one in the I didn't realize how common it was. A lot of people have it. One in eight women have PCOS. That's more than I thought. I do, I probably know. It says more than 170 million worldwide. And probably a lot undiagnosed too. Yeah, that's true. Well, because PCOS, there's no like one test that says like you have PCOS. Right. No PMOS. PMOS. PMOS. Um that sounds like a different lane. PM PMOS. But I feel like that's the case with like a lot of things regarding women's health. Is that like women don't even consider that there's something different happening because you're just told like pregnancy, like your period, like all of these things have the exact same thing. They're like, it's your diet, you need to lose all of it. Exactly. They all have the same symptoms half the time. So you're like, if you have really bad cramps, like you're probably not gonna think that you have a cyst on your ovary. You're just like exactly. Because they just like dusted a bit under the rug. Exactly. And it's hard to like diagnose because there's no like test that says like, oh, you have PCR. Right. It's like, oh, you have acne, you have uh like weight problems, you have cramps. You should have birth control. Oh, yeah. That'll fix you right up. Great, that'll do the trick. But you'll also get weight gain and acne if you do that one. Yeah. So it's not fixing it. What are we doing here? What are we doing here? How is this helping me? Yeah. Yeah. So, but it's nice to know that they're actually doing some research and doing it. Yeah, because maybe they can actually come up with a cure. Not just something to help. Yeah, something that's not just a band-aid, like for course. Of course, exactly. So I thought it was really cool that like a good step in women's life. I mean, happy fucking Wednesday. Seriously, a body in a half, right? I know. Oh my god. Should we get into our hotties enough? Oh my god. Okay, after that gorgeous hottie, Ari, how are you gonna kick it off? Oh my gosh, guys, my hottie is Stanley Tucci. Oh, I love him! Do you know who he is? I know him. Okay, Baldy. I love it. Wait, he is hot. He's gorgeous. I think he's gorgeous. I love his personality. Yeah. He like, but he's just got such an amazing acting range. He does, yeah. Like in the Devil Wars Prada, he is like amazing character, like sassy, like all the time. I just watched that. For the first time, I love that. Oh, the first one. Yeah. So like you see his character in that. Like he plays such an amazing character. He's also in Hunger Games. He is the like announcer. That's I'm like, those are like two. He like kidnaps somebody and like kills them. Yes. Wait, um I haven't seen it, but I've seen clips and it's given me nightmares. So he didn't say what is it. And he pla he's like the neighbor of like this family, and this family's like Marky Mark is in the dad, and like their kid or something dies or goes missing, and they don't know why, and then they figure out the girl. And like bones. Yeah, and they like some figure out something and they find out that he's the one. Like the sister does, and she's like trying to leave I don't even I don't know the story. I'm just making sense. Yeah, it's like the daughter go, like Mark, I know it's a lot of people. I'm saying Mark's like what's his name? Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. She's like, she like falls out of the roof at one point and he's like chasing her. Yes. Yes, with the she like grabs a notebook or something. Yeah. So is she the one that dies? Do we know? Um, it's like the sister or something. There's some I actually haven't watched, I've only seen that. Me too. So I'm just like bullshit. No, but he like he's unrecognizable. Like he's got freakish combover. Like they make him look like a creep in that movie. Like, you look like you kidnapped someone. Yeah, you look like and in the Hunger Games, he's so like it's such crazy. Like, I can't even tell. Like, it's him. I love Coveling characters. No, you're right, because I like I really I was looking at him in the Devil Res Product. I was like, I don't even I know I know him, but I can't who are you? I know you, but Brittany Bros. He loves Stanley Tuchi. She's like, what's on to love about him? I know. She has only good takes. I know, seriously. Guys, he just got on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, like the handprint. Dude, they're just like Miley Cyrus now, too. Yeah, Emily guys wearing literally. Yeah, Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt are right next to each other. Oh they were really cute. They had like um speeches or whatever, like when you get like inducted into it or whatever, and she's like, I'm so glad to have I wouldn't want to be like trampled by anyone like next to the house. It was cute. But yeah, I just love it. I love both of them. That's a really great hottie. Yeah, that is a good hottie. Okay. Thanks. What's mine? Let's say on top of it, surprise he hasn't aged. I can't see pictures of the devil wears Prada. Right. But like they keep doing half face from first Devil Wears Prada and Half Face from the face. He looks the same. He looks exactly the same. It looks the exact same. Okay. You want to hear mine? Yes, I do. My hottie is honking my horn. Yes. I don't know why I am such a slut for honking my horn. I want to have a horn in the back so I can honk at people who are running my hair. I want to have a pull down. Get off of me. I want one. I'm a big advocate of honking. Like I would eat that up. Yeah. I love, I don't know why. I'm like, whenever someone is doing something that I get to honk my horn, I No, I'm a huge advocate of honking. I honk on the highway. I do too. I'm honking by the honking. I'm literally driving recklessly. Like I'm gonna honk at you. Sorry. Dude, I I've honked at like 18-wheelers like cutting me off before. Yeah, because I just make signal. I just make that fierce eye contact. No, I'm honking at everyone. I'm throwing my hands in the air. I get where I'm in the car. I'm angry like instantly. Like, I don't know. And I'm not an A person. Like, I feel like I know that something about it. Well, people are just fucking stupid. Like, they're so stupid. Early I had to honk at someone because I could see her because they were stupid. She's driving behind me. This guy like speeds in front of both of us, and I see her in the back. Yeah, because he's like cutting for like. You're driving like an F1 driver in fucking downtown Nashua. Like you're gonna hurt someone. What are we doing? Like you're not getting anywhere. I'm gonna try to block you in so you have to go slow. Yeah. I was trying to do that with someone the other day. I was like, I'm gonna get hurt. I'm slowing down. I can't do the tailgating because I'm scared. I can't either. Yeah, well, people are freaks nowadays too. I'm like, don't follow me to my home. Yeah, live furry die. You're right. We don't know what they have in their car. Yeah, don't do that to me. You're yeah, you're I know. I I get scared of that too. Yeah, so but I I had to honk earlier because there was rush hour, guys. Going like towards the Boston area, and this girl, I'm behind her, and I can see her on her phone and she's like lagging behind everyone. I'm like, we're gonna miss this fucking light. So I'm honking out. Yeah, so I had to honk out. You know what? No. That would that will like scare people enough, hopefully, to be like, shit, I need to put my phone down. People need an awareness check. How do you not know? They need the awareness check. You're doing them a favor in the end of the day. You're doing a public service. That's how I felt. You're saving people. Thank you. That's how I feel every time I do it. Like I'm better than you. You guys are so welcome. I'm a better driver than everyone here. And I agree. I stand by that too. Oh my god. Um, my hottie is, you know, it's it's hard. The wintertime is hard. Oh. And the second I get a fresh tan, I'm like 10 times hotter than I was before. Yep. Like the way this past winter, I was I I feel like I don't notice until I get a tan, and then I'm like, God, I was so ugly before. My hair looked terrible. I had it was breaking out in the second time. Like, wow, I've never looked better. My natural hair, it's perfect. I'm never straightening it again. Everything about me is perfect. As soon as I get a tan, I'm like, I actually don't need any makeup. Like, maybe I'll brush my brows, and like that's like good. Literally, me in Florida, I just sewed my makeup on once. I was like so perfect. I have a sun kissed look. I know. Like that's my vibe. Yeah. I feel like everything does look better with the tan. I feel that way when I sell it. Everything is so much better. Yeah. Because that winter outfits look better, especially if it's like skinnier. Yes. Like my body is killing it right now. Yeah. I'm toned. When you've been like outside and like you actually have the vitamin D like in your body. You're like, oh, it does something to you. I think I'm glowing from the inside. Like I feel like. Yeah, our bodies really miss that in the winter. Yeah, I'm deprived. We have a 90-degree week coming up, and I've never been more happy that I'm unemployed. Yeah, I know. This is stretching. It is really hard to look for a job when it starts to get warm up. I know. It's like that's okay. Maybe I'll just wait again. Yeah, just wait till it's all. You know what? You're like, I could push through. I was like, I probably have enough. I'm probably fine. I can make it, yeah. Yeah, totally fine. Uh okay. Well, I guess we're gonna kill our mood. Now let's get into it. Guys, I hate that this falls on to me. I hate to do it to you guys. But guys, you this shit pissed me off. Like, real quick. Because I usually go in really excited. For your naughty? Yeah. And then uh like immediately my mood is killed. So I hate when I like give someone a call. And like I don't call a lot of people, so when I do, I'm excited. Right. And so when I call and a voicemail tricks me into thinking you answer the phone. Dude, I hate it. Wait, how old are we? If you're doing it, I actually hate that. You should be canceled. I cannot deal with this. Wait, I agree. I cannot. I just remember I don't know why this like dawned on me the other day, but in high school, my um boyfriend at the time, his ring or his voicemail would be like, hey, what's up? And then it would leave a little bit. And I'll be like, hey, you know, I have so much to tell you. Nah, I'm just pinna, I'm not here. Leave a message. Guys, mine was me singing. No, it wasn't me. What song? My dad and his buddies came up with this rap when they were in um college and they had like a phone at their house in college. And so it was like, let me think about it. Hold on. We're not here. I went to get a snack. Leave your name and number, I'll call you right back. Oh, I love that. So that was my rigtoad. You say that? Yeah, so now we have that clip so everyone can make it their rigtoe. I'm about to set that as my rigto. They should probably know like who this is. So now it's like this is K Ramon. It's not as fun. I don't even think they got beep. Leave a message at the beep. Yeah. Mine's like the Siri voice, probably. Yeah, I don't even know if I have to be. I know you don't need one now, but it was so fun that like we could record one. We could oh my god, we could go up for the pod. Yeah. We'd make a function. Wait, that would be fun. But I'm not tricking no one. It's bad. Hey, it's a talker pod. No, skinny bitches. I know, that's fucked. No, because then I'm like starting to talk and then the beep goes off, and I'm like, what the fuck? No, because I do that. Because I'm not sure. Why is it so embarrassing? Every single time I'm like, you're by yourself and you're embarrassed. Yeah, no one heard me, but I'm I just hang up immediately. I'm like, these bitches. Yeah, you know what? You're not getting a voicemail from me now. No. You're not getting one. No, no, no. No, you don't deserve one. No. If you have one of those, you don't deserve a voicemail. I haven't heard of that in a long time. Me either. Yeah. What a throwback. Yeah. Okay, my naughty is. Oh. Oh. Having my naughty is having to tell your nail tech like literally anything. Oh my god. I don't want to talk to a nail audience. I hate it because I feel like they have a hard time executing. Well, I mean, I only see this one woman. And I feel like sometimes like I'm asking for too much, and then I start to feel bad. And then I try to do something else. And then I look at them and I'm like, this is not what I wanted, but I could not have to do that. That's going to be the right thing because I felt bad I was going to take up too much of my time. I'm like, I'm not changing the color. I'm not changing the shape. I'm not saying the damn snails I've ever had, and I'm gonna pay you and I'm gonna thank you. And I'm gonna say thank you so much for the same. Yeah. Or it's like when you're putting it in. You've never known like the water and is it hot? No, I'm fine. No, ma'am. Your your skin is like fun. No, it's perfect. No, it's perfect. I love it. Or if it's too cold, they're like, is it is it warm enough? I'm like, no, it's perfect. You literally have the goosebumps. No, I'm fine. No, I really am good. Or if they like cut me, I like just pretend for their sake that I'm burning the bitch. Um I'm like bleeding down my arm. No, it's great. I'm like, no, yeah, I don't I don't even see it. Just keep going. I feel the same way about my hair, actually. Really? Yeah. Like if I go in morning and I start in red and I get a different red, I'll be like, oh, perfect. I'm like, I'll be back in six weeks. I'll just change it then. Yeah. Like whatever. Because my uncle's my hairdresser. Oh. Yeah, but you don't color your hair either. Uh sometimes. But not really. I haven't in a while, actually. Yeah. But yeah, I'm just like, if I if it's like too short, I'm like, eh. Yeah. Is that what I wanted? But what do you do when it's too short? Uh I kind of just live with it, but he knows. Yeah. Oh. But that's like your hair takes so long. And you also can't tell until they've already dried your hair, and that's like, what, we want to start from the beginning for another two hours? Like right now, I'm leaving. I'd literally rather just suffer for the next six weeks. Yeah. And like I just really suffer. That's how I feel about my nails. I'm like, I don't care. I'll be back in three weeks. They could be puke green and I would deal with it. I'd be like, no, I like them. I'll just die. I love them. Don't look at my hands. I don't know. Yeah, literally. That's fine. Hair stuff. You kind of get used to the hair. Exactly. Like, I've had short, short hair, and I'm like, wait, I can't actually put it all up and all my hair, like when your half of your hair is down and I can't put it all up in a bun. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I I always think about a bob. I love a bob. I do like. Did you have a bob before? I had a bob many times. You had five. I've never known you with a bob. So true. That was before? That was before before her time. Oh. So like before I came along. Before I was born. It was sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah. No, so I had grown it out. Um, I don't even know what this was probably like two or three years ago at this point. You're still in college. Yeah, it was right before I graduated. It was like this I graduated in like August in the summer, so like right beforehand. I had it looked like this. It was like this long and it was like perfect summer highlights. It was. And then I asked for a bob and we cut it, and I was like, I want it bright red. It literally was the color of my sweatshirt. I think I've seen a photo. Once it like washed out, it was adorable. But you had hair styles with it. Yeah. But then it gets to a point where you're like, okay, I'm sick of it. Well, it's like you're not style it all the time. It's exhausting. Annoying. Because I could not like you have cute curls where you can wear it. Like, I could not wear it natural. I'd look like trouble. I wouldn't be able to do that with a bob. No, it was not a good one. I would have to style it with an afternoon. You'd have an afro. I would have an afro. If I actually went bob length, it would just be honestly, you could probably pull it off. I think so. In afro? Yeah. I'm not doing that. Okay. Thanks so. Naughty. Um, my naughty is beagles. Are beagles? Beagles? The dog. My house. The dog. The dog. My house is surrounded by at least six. Do you know what a beagle looks like? I have neighbors up there, down there, over here. And they each have two beagles apiece. Okay? That's insane. Are they uh a too much? Are they contagious or something? Like, one deal they're trying to get rid of them. They're so annoying. They're loud. They are a loud bark. Or not even a bark. It's like this weird howl that sounds like they're in pain. And like I walk my neighbor's dog all the time, and these beagles will just run at the fence and just stand there and howl until they can't see us anymore. Hate a beagle. Dude. They're kind of cute. She hates how they act. Okay, yeah, like a beagle's temper. They are kind of aggressive too. A beagle attacked really corgi ones. Like I I get too. I has trauma. Beagle hater, I fear. Because they're so obnoxious. I'm like, I'm outside trying to enjoy nature and these things are just barking. Yeah. That's one thing that really sets me up about dogs in general. It's like that barking on my car. I literally I hate the barking too. I have two dogs that have bark their heads. Because they're animals. Like my cats meow, but I'm like, please! Silence! Yeah. Silence from you. Yeah. A dog barking. No. Like my nanitog will. I'm like going. It just keeps going. When the owner. I can't do it. When the owner can't talk over it. Like nothing's going to be. I'm gonna kill you. You're like yelling over it. Like, what are we doing? Like we're acting normal right now, and I can't actually stand it. I can't because I can't focus on anything else. I can't even actually eat. No. Well, I never got used to it. I have both my dogs are of everyone with this fucking like dog propaganda. Okay. Wait, you're right. A woman has three cats and she's a crazy lady, crazy cat lady, but like if somebody had three dogs, they're like an animal lover. No, you're a psycho bitch. Okay, and your house smells like dog. Oh, care's coming for you guys right now. I just I think it stems with the patriarchy. I don't know. I'm blaming it. I do think how people look at cat owners versus dog owners definitely has to do with the purge. Yeah, because it's a man's best friend and then it's a crazy cat. That perge. Like I just you're not. You're right. I I no, I can't. I'm pissed. Wow. She's with you on here. She's on to it. As a dog and a cat owner. Yeah. There's just something off about it. Yeah, there's something, there's something going on with the dogs. Right? It's like you're crazy. Oh, you're crazy. Oh, you're a cat person. But oh, you have a dog. Oh. Oh, that's great. That's awesome. Oh, you're an animal lover. Ooh. No, your dog shoots all over my lawn and it just barks and like I try to have my window open back here, all I can hear is a beagle howling. I'm calling the police. Literally call them too much control. For beagles or dogs in general? People give dogs too much credit for being stupid. Okay, but like my dog's really smart. Your dog is smart? My dog's smart, yeah. My dogs are smart, but they're really stupid in general, though. Toby's smart, but I also smart compared to like a other farm animal. Like, I don't know. My dog's also Amish, so he he's got something going on there. Yeah, he's not even Amish, okay. He's around technology all the time nowadays. He was born his heritage is Amish. I know a lot of people with Amish dogs. I don't know why's Amish. Like the Amish like breed these dogs. Yeah. Well, it's like I have a Kaba poo, and usually the Amish breed them. That's what very interesting cousins have, and they got it. A lot of them the Kabapoos are like bred by the Amish. Yeah. What is the sound? We need to look into that. The Amish? Like what why do they do that? I don't know. We should get an Amish person on the podcast. That would be awesome. How do we contact them? I've like talked about it. We just go up to the park. We just go talk. Like in a car and they're like in a buggy in the little trolley. Have you seen them? Come with us. Have you seen them like in a trolley? Um, I've seen Amish people at the airport, but I've never been to like a airport? Yeah. Why the hell were they there? They're traveling with their family. I don't know what they're doing. They believe in it. I just picture them in like a few. You know, literally seen the drove to pick up Toby. No, I've never been to Amish Country. We went, it's in Pennsylvania. Amish country. They have their own island. Yeah, it's literally in Pennsylvania. It's literally Pennsylvania. You're just like your dog's an Eagles fan and you're calling him Amish. Yeah. Oh. Yes. Um, but yeah, literally, they're just like you're driving a car and then you're stuck behind like a horse and buggy. No. It's like there's poop all on the road. I'm like, what are we doing? I would love to go on an Amish retreat, like just for a week. What is that? Yeah, I would love to just make like butter. I don't know. I'm just saying, like, I want to be Amish for a week. You just want to go experience. Just one week. Maybe a weekend is enough, honestly. I think a weekend would be enough. Have you seen that TikTok of this girl? She's literally like eight years old and she's like, she just wants to be Amish. Yes. And her like her aunt got her like an outfit to dress up as an Amish. She comes up on it and like all this stuff, and she's like, I just she's like churning butter. Like, you can go be Amish, babe. Like, go to you. Speak your truth. Yeah. Imagine your daughter just like comes up. I want to be Amish. Okay. You're like, I was Amish and a furry. You know what? I'd rather you be Amish than a furry. So I would just because if my daughter, I'm sorry, if my daughter comes up to me and I want to be a cat, we're going to therapy. Then go outside and go kill all the rats, okay? And I'll leave your kitty live outfit. And I'll come inside. You're not a double bottom. You're a porn cat. You're a porn cat. You're a stray cat. Get out. You're a feral cat. Oh no. No, because that's the truth of it. You want to be a cat? Be a kid. And go act like one. Commit to it. Yeah, you're right. I'm calling the police immediately. No, because like an owl is gonna try to take her away. You're gonna fly down. These fancy vultures are no joke. Like a fox is coming. Just keep that in mind when you're sleeping outside in your kitty litter box. Oh my god. In your litter box. Okay, don't get sponsored by fancy. And I'm not cleaning that either. No. Fancy fees would turn them away. Fancy's like, no. We only like the fancy what are the Huh? What? Parisian? Parisian cat, yeah. Parisian cats. Yeah. Oh. I could not think of the words. Persian? Persian cat. I'm like Parisian. A cat from Paris. Yeah, that's what I was trying to think of. Did you say Parisian? Parisian. And I was like, yeah. That's the one. Yeah, I agree, guys. It's a Paris cat. Anyways. I love a Paris cat. Um I have a good topic, so let's get into our topic. I can't wait. Today's episode is sponsored by Joe Louise Beauty. I've been dying to find a place where I can get my brows done, my lashes done, and get a full beauty makeup, of course. Well, me too. And especially from a girl's girl who has the stats to prove it. She was voted Platinum Best Makeup Artist and voted Gold Best Lashes in Nashua 2025. Like yeah. That's where I want to go. So when you go, mention the talk of her pod at time of booking to get 15% off your service. No, that's a deal. You are gonna be obsessed. You're gonna love her. Yes. We love her, you'll love her too. Have you heard of the new James Charles cancellation? Oh my god. Okay, perfect. Let me get into this with you. What is he even doing now? He's doing everything that he shouldn't be. Yeah. So okay, I'm sad. As we all know, our dearest Spirit Airlines has closed. Which means. Oh, you didn't know this. Spirit Airlines is no longer a thing. No way. Shut down. How am I gonna get my $99 vlog? That's really what I'm saying. I flew fucking Spirit Airlines to Costa Rica from Boston. No, you did not. That's really brilliant. I love Spirit Airlines. I hate it, but let's do it. I love the prices. Yeah, exactly. So, anyways, 1,700 people, I think, lost their jobs because of that. Because that's how many people really can employ. 1,700? That's it? 17,000. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. 17,000 people. Wow. Yeah, that's not a lot. No, yeah. 17,000 people lost their jobs. Awesome. And so this woman had made a GoFundMe saying that like she lost her job. I don't know like the specifics of like her life if she was a job or like whatever, but she made this GoFundMe and she had DM'd James Charles being like, hey, like I just lost my job. Like, can you share this link like with your followers? Like I'm I don't help. Like I don't have a job. He made this video. Oh no. Posting being like, you lazy piece of shit. Like you think Celebrity is a good idea. Literally so out of the way. Influencers are gonna pay for you. Like I can't believe you would ask this. And he's going on and on and on as if his job isn't literally from people watching his video. Yeah, paid for by paid for by the audience. So we're paying for you to live. Right. You can't even fathom. And the other thing given a few bucks to my GoFundMe. He right. And he literally has never worked like a normal job. No. He was got famous like very young. Yeah. Which, like, that's not his wrong, but like. But like also, I feel like there's a lot of influencers who do give back. Let's have some common knowledge. So like he like was getting fucking torn apart in the comments, obviously. And so he deleted it and then made an apology video being like, that was so rude of me. I don't know what shit like it triggered me. And it's like, how many times can we cancel this man before like honestly? He still has 40 million people following him. Yeah, he just keeps proving that he's not a good person. So I don't know. I don't even know what's like what is left. What's attractive about his content? I r like, but it's like even if he had those opinions, like he could have just messed up. He could have just literally not responded. Literally don't respond. Just looked at it and that's annoying. But then you don't have to literally tell everyone about it. Right, because she literally wrote in the DM, like, you're probably not even gonna see this, but like I and then turns out she had sent it to like a bunch of influencers. Yeah. Can't hurt to try. No, literally the like I responded. Don't get fed. Okay. Amen. So um I saw this other influencer. Her name is Abby Herbert. And she Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, so her and her husband got famous, and then they like now they have a family and whatever. And so this woman had messaged her, and she was like sharing the story that it had happened in the past. And she was like, This woman had messaged me on Instagram saying that like she really desperately needs like a two like child uh stroller. Like she needs it bad, like whatever. She didn't like like Abby's like, I didn't ask why she needed it, but I called my contact and I'm sending her a scooter. Like I would do that too if I had the money or the resources. Exactly. And then she was like, now I'm like trying to come up with something with this stroller brand, trying to figure out how we can send out 10 free ones to people who need it. Right. That's how to turn something into the right. And I feel like a lot of influences do a good job of giving back. Like And he doesn't. He just keeps asking for more and more. It kind of like scares you wondering like that the billionaires think this way about us. That we just want them to hand over money. And it's like, no, we want a community where like people want to give back. Yeah. Because we're supporting your business. Right. And we want something. I mean, not that you were expecting something in return, but it'd be nice if you did. He literally could have sent her like a card or been like, I'm so sorry that happened to you. He could have sent a full bus. Literally. He didn't have to acknowledge it at all. Yeah. If he sent her a thousand dollars, it would have like changed her life. But instead he goes on and calls her like a hundred dollars. And he was like, the a hundred messed DMs you sent to influencers, that could have been a hundred job applications. And clearly he's never applied to a job because I've been applying to jobs for years. There's not even a hundred jobs to apply. And do you know how long it takes? I applied to three jobs and it took me two hours. Yeah. It takes a long time. It takes a long time. Not to mention updating your resume and tailoring it to every job. Like he's just so out of the way. It's a lot of work. I thought that was really embarrassing of him. Right. It is embarrassing. And not to mention the whole minor thing. You guys know that. But to mention it. Yeah. But to mention it. Because that's a whole other layer. He's doing a lot of talking to minors. Like he does so many times. Like yeah. Like teenage boys. Oh. Yeah. Guys, what is in the air with these dumbers? And you also heard the um there's like a funny audio and it's like, and he did it at my birthday dinner. And he's talking about James Charles flirting with the waiter and like making inappropriate comments to the waiter, like at this woman's birthday dinner. Wait, I did not know. It was literally a Bellows. Oh, that's an awesome look for him. I didn't. So that's the pop culture news I have for today. While we're on James Charles, did you do you guys know that girl Kayla? Yes. Okay, you know who I'm talking about. I don't even know how to describe her to you. She has like a lot of piercing. She's blonde. She's got like a lot of freckles. Oh, she's got like the I'm falling. I'm falling. So she was in like an abusive relationship with this guy and she started like posting about it publicly. She was also friends with James Charles. So she was also going through a trial about it. Yeah. She was telling, I think she told James Charles about how this guy was abusing her. Like literally was hitting her, like strangling her, whatever. He was housing the guy, the her ex-boyfriend, at his house. He was like trying. He was trying to hook up with him. This is like another time when he'd like make an apology video. Like, I know Kayla like is not gonna like forgive me and she doesn't need to. Like, you're a bad guy. You're a bad guy. Wait, delete that. Yeah. Like delete nobody's made this many apologies. Where is his PR team? He doesn't have one. Like, where also he can't have one. Can we talk about his Coachella outfit with the assless chaps? Bad, bad. That was too much. Was that recent? Or was it? I'm like, I feel like he does that every year. Yeah, say, because he got a BBL and he had to show it off. No, the BBL is crazy. The BBL's bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad. You guys know how we feel about BBL. What are we doing? No, that shit's weird. Like, I really just can't. No. Wait, did you guys also see that Kevin Hart like had a roast? Yes. Dude, I didn't watch it, but I've seen snippets. I didn't watch the full thing, but there were some good parts. Yeah, the rock came out. Oh, I missed their shit. Their like friendship is so good. Because they're like best friends. So like they be picking on each other. Even when they're not around, like if they're having an interview. Oh my god. Like he was on Call Her Daddy and she call her daddy. Call her Daddy. Alex Cooper was like, who's the most overrated celebrity? He's just like The Rock. Like Dwayne Johnson. No, dude, the rock was common for him. He was like, he was like hitting all the hard jokes, and then at like at the end, he was like, Oh, you know, I love you, like you're my brother. Like, to like show you how much I loved you, I got a tattoo of you. And everyone's like clapping, like, oh my god, he's like, Yeah, it's on my dick. And that shit's life size. That's really good. Who said that, Kevin? The rock said it about Kevin. He's so funny. It was so funny. Also, oh my god, never mind. Um, but he it was so funny. There were a lot of good. I haven't seen any of that. No, there's some really good ones. I like a good roast. I I love I thought the one that um Tom Brady like his was really funny too. Except he like lo like he could handle it, but you could see it on his face that he was not. Well, because they were making a lot of jokes about um Giselle and like. I mean, why did he agree to get roasted? If but obviously. Obviously, when you choose football over your wife, we're gonna make jokes about it. Right. Yeah. Naturally. Naturally, that is how you made us do that. Naturally, we're gonna pick on that. You made your bed and now you lay in it. God. No, that shit's funny though. Okay, so would you rather date somebody that comes from a Disney family or a turkey trot family? Disney Really? Turkey. Turkey trots. Turkey trots once a year. Yeah. Disney is every single vacation. Disney is like every vacation. Okay, guys. You take you're going to Disney. No, but I don't respect your answer because like running does suck. But I don't want to be in a turkey trot family. I've already done it. It actually is kind of nice to wake up on Thanksgiving and run, and then you can do whatever for the rest of the day and eat however and you've already like worked out. Uh no, yeah, I kind of get that. I've done turkey trots and then. I usually go out the night before Thanksgiving, so like going out and then running and then. Oh, I've never those things. I've never done a turkey trot since I've been like able to drink. Like I did them in high school. I think the last I think I did one in high school. But like, I don't want to. Would I? I would. Yeah. But you could also walk it. I'd rather go to the house. What's wrong with you? For everyone. Every holiday, and you'd spend a whole week. Okay, that wasn't in the guidelines here, okay? But that's a Disney family. That's the way. They do every year. Every every time. As much as they can. I had somebody that I knew. If they're going anywhere, it's Disney. Somebody that I knew was a Disney family, and like their whole house was decorated Disney. And like every trip they went on, even as adults, like they go to Disney as adults. Like there's no children in the family. We're going to Disney. That's insane. Like, I like Disney. I don't even like rides. It's a cult. I don't like rides. I think they are somehow in a cult. Like, I love normal. I love Disney, but that is like crazy. I love Disney movies, Disney stores. I love it. I honestly I've been to the parks and they're awesome. But like it's Have you been as an adult? I've only ever been as an adult. Okay. Well, as an adult, I was like in high school. My parents were like, they could not care less about like amusement parks. Like we were going on a beach weekend as kids. We went, I was in third grade, my sister was in kindergarten. That's a good age. So we like knew. Yeah. You know, we wanted to meet the characters. That's how I get it. Like the magic was still there. Exactly. Yeah, like the magic was still there, but like also we could like do stuff. Yeah, it's like the Bippity Bobity boutique. Yeah, we did do that. That's so funny. Okay, we did that. My I got a slick ass bun. Yeah. I took all the stuff out, my hair stayed like that. Dude, they don't fuck around at the Bippity Bob. No, that shit, like, it would not come out. Like the gel and shit in my hair. They also do it. Yeah. Yeah, I did do that. The Bippity Bopity boutique where they like put you in a dress and they do your hair. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I've never done it, but it looks so adorable. We should do this as adults. They would be like, yeah, no, because I bet Disney adults I bet Disney. You're like, I actually am in Disney adult. Well, you like actually this is that. And they're like, no. I would hope they would tell them no. I I think that's weird. But people tried that. I'm saying I would imagine a Disney adult has tried that. Oh, definitely. But they don't fuck around. Definitely been tried before. They didn't know how to do every type of hair ever. Oh. Any texture, any length. Love that. They're just do it right at it. They're like very inclusive. Yeah, I love that. I think like I think I'm all Disney'd out for like the regular Disney. Like, I I went as a kid and it was very magical and like that stuff with my family. And then we and like my cousins met up too. I went with the fans and stuff. And then I went as an adult when I was like 16 because I had a soccer tournament there. So like we had a soccer tournament, and then of course we're gonna go to Disney one day or whatever. So it was kind of nice, and we did like the around the world, like Epcot. Like that stuff is cooler when you're an adult. Right. Like you have more drink around the world. Appreciation, yeah. Well, actually, no, I wasn't allowed to be like, I do like Epcot. Yeah, I like Universal. Okay, that's what like the Harry Potter. I've never been there either. Universal is really cool. But I'm like obsessed with Harry Potter. So that's where I would want to go. You would love to. Yeah, I think I would have to do that. I know I could get it. Harry Potter world is the coolest part about universe. Yeah. Like if I was to go back, like I would go back there. Yeah. Like go to there, not back. Um, but yeah, after that, then I wouldn't be I wouldn't need to go to any other amusement place. Yeah. If I never went to an amusement park again in my life, I would be totally happy. Me too. I could use a few. I don't like five that much. I kind of like the same. But spinny ride. No. Guys, I have I ever told you a horror story with an amusing ride that through up. It's it's worse than that. Oh it's like far worse. Uh oh. Would you shit yourself? It's along like literally that level. So I we have six uh not six flags, Canaby Lake Park. Yeah. Yes. So I go there on a first date. And so I get dropped off. That's a bad idea. I'm there with his family. And this is like the first time like out with his like family. How old are you? I'm like in high school. Okay. So probably like a sophomore in high school. 15. Yeah. Like I was. First date with the whole family. Mm-hmm. First out of the house. Spinning school is so weird. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So we're like hanging out. So then me and him just go out and we're like going on a ride. And I don't do spinny rides. Me either. Like I don't do that shit. You did it anyways? Do I go on a spinny ride? I did. Oh, we went to the buffet before. I'm getting nauseous thinking about spinning. I had um a bunch of like, oh yeah, like we go on the frisbee one. That shit like that shit whips you around. So I'm like, so scared. I'm sick. I'm fine. I'm like, I'm Did he only like spitty rides? I don't know. I don't know, but in that point, I like the water. He was really close to you. We'll go. The legs women go to impressive. Exactly. I go on this ride. We're spinning. Okay. Okay. Are you throwing up on the ride? I throw up, not like out, down. All in my seat. Oh, you're sitting. Oh, you're sitting in the middle. I literally thought you were pressed against a wall. Nope. I'm sad. I mean, because where else are you gonna throw up though? It just goes straight into my seat. It's nothing like on me, straight on my seat. In your cooch. So then this shit I had. I was really thirsty. So I had a bunch of Kool-Aid. I had like for lunch. It was red. Red throw-up in my all on my pants. I never heard those. He's like, oh, you're like fine. Wait, I'm sick. No first kids. I get off the rhythm. No, I'm like walking to go to the bathroom. I feel a tap on my shoulder. Someone says, someone goes, Oh, honey, you got your parents. Oh honey. No, I didn't. Like, I fucking aware that my lip threw up on my vagina, okay? Shit. Shit. What okay? I I was thirsty. The Kool-Aid look really good. Shit. So then I literally go to the bathroom. I call my mom. My mom arrives. All the way don't have any shorts at Canada. You can buy? I'm not. No, I didn't. It wasn't even. I'm like, do they got canopy like shorts? They definitely do, because I can imagine this happens often. Right? Oh, my mom drove all the way down, got brought me a new pair of shorts. I'm like just sitting by the bathroom. No, I would have been like, bring me home. And then like you home with my date. Wow. And what happened after that? So did you guys date it for a while? I don't think so. Yeah. But we did date, and I was really surprised because I'm not sure. Right? I can't do it. Because I'm crazy. Red Kool-Aid. And I'll still date you for the next five years. That was crazy on my vagina. Yep. So that's a great story. So that's pretty traumatic. Wow. That's hilarious. Oh, yeah, that was pretty awesome. Yeah, and also I'm so glad. Dude, on my ride, I saw someone like I went to high school with. I'm like, what the hell are we doing? That was someone like wished karma on you that. Dude, that shit was bad. That was like I did not design that. No, you didn't. Like, what did I do? You'll never like a man enough to do that. You'll never like a man enough to go out and see it again. Yeah. You're not that attractive. No, because once I'm like gotten a little bit nauseous, I'm nauseous for the rest of the day. Oh, I'm like I have vertigo. No. Yeah. I literally get vertical. Yeah, vertigo. I'm sick. My sick. You know, I have a faulty period. You know what though? Sometimes I love an older woman who like wants to come and help you, but sometimes like there there is certain women who like they think they're helping, but they're making it worse. You're making it worse. Or like it's just unsolicited advice like you don't need. I feel like that can be backhanded sometimes. I know, like I know you're trying to help, but like You're also like talking at full volume right now, telling me that my vagina is bleeding. You're like, I'm gonna die right now, and you see, you can spoon around my waist and just be like, I literally think I didn't hand me a tampon. Yeah, no, I literally think I had a sweatshirt over. I'm like, why are you still coming up to me? I know the shit. I know. Like I can only do so much. Yeah. No, because that was pissed. No, I was pissed. I was like, what's worse than that? What's worse? Throw up on the job and throw up and also red. Okay, it's worse. What's worse than or just actually getting your period on a first day and bleeding through the phone. No, the vomit. Because not only did you see me vomit, now it's on my vagina. And now I get the accusations on my period. Also, if you bleed through your hand, it's like some it's mostly like between your legs and you can't. No, this is like throw up on my vagina, and it smells not because it's not smells. And you're asking me if I'd rather that or bleed through my pants. I would rather be. Honestly, okay, but like throw throw up on your vagina. Or shit your pants. Throw up on my bone. Throw up on my vagina. Shit my pants. You would never see me again if I shut my pants. If I shot my pants in public. You would never you would never see me again. No, I'd feel so bad. I would I would try my best to hide that for you. If a man should on the room shit. If you shut his pants, I fear. You would have to be literally perfect in all other areas, and something really bad had to have happened that he's made. Like he's trying to go on a first leaf, even though he has food. It also depends on how the chat became. Dude, is this diarrhea or is it like a full turn? Like, are you not feeling good? Are you not feeling good? Like, are you having stomach issues, or did you like accidentally fart and boom-boo? Yeah. Or did you need like a gloss to be like? Leave your parts in until the duration. Go to the bathroom. Wait, I saw this thing on TikTok, and it was this woman who had been in jail, and she was like telling all of her prison stories, and she said that it was like common courtesy in jail that if you had to fart, you had to go to the toilet and fart in the toilet and flush it because nobody wanted to smell it. Wait, that's really funny. Are you kidding me? That was so flush your farts away. Yeah, does that even work? I was like, No, I don't care you guys. It's in the air. Well, these poor women, they would get mad if you didn't fart in the toilet. Yeah, the food must have been bad for their courtesy flush. She also said, like, things I don't think about when people go to jail. She was like, you get like three meals a day, and like if you want more, like you you don't get any more. Like, this is how much you're getting. Damn. They don't obviously not snacking, which I that's prison in itself. No snacks, no sweet treats. Like, that is jail for me. Do they get sweet treats? Like, doubt it. Oh, I doubt it. And like naughty. They've been naughty, they can't have one. I know. Ugh. I mean, it depends what they did, but I feel like everyone deserves a sweet treat. Everyone deserves to eat. Right? I know. That shit's crazy. Okay. Now, what would you guys do if a man threw up Kool-Aid on his dick? Um, sir, your penis is bleeding. No, seriously though, because if he was like a really good guy, I would feel bad. I'd be like, why did you make why did you say yes to going on the ride? Yeah, like I come on. I feel like I would immediately go in like mama bear, be like, it's okay. Like I would try to. But if we're sitting at dinner and he just looks down and throws up in his lap. And he's like, I'm gonna. Yeah, but don't. I'm literally, I don't even Bill, please. For him. Yeah. Yeah, not for me. I'm leaving. No, that shit is crazy. Because if it was Uno reverse, I feel like I don't know. Una reverse. Wait a minute. No, because it was Una reverse. Okay, if I had to throw up though, at dinner. At dinner, I'm following him. Oh my god. That's gonna make me throw up right now. We need to drink drink according to anyone because it's just a throw-up episode. No, but I feel like, like, I don't know, like get a napkin, like, I don't know, sometimes people literally like like it didn't even take it. I would like throw up in my wine glass or something. Yeah. Yeah. Clear wine glass. Oh my god. That's disgusting. Oh my god. No, there was- What are you gonna do? Dude, there was this twitch. I guess you had down on your crotch. Dude, just gonna get too that's always an option. Just catch it. I'm gonna lie. They're like, what was that? Oh, nothing. I was just swatting a bug. They looked away for opening a napkin. What's that? What were you saying? There was this girl's what? There was like a on TikTok, like a Twitch stream like came up. And this girl, like, they're all like hanging out in a to hot tub, just like talking. This girl is just focusing so hard. She throws up on into the hot tub. No one notices. She goes like this and she's like two people in the house. There's other people in the hot tub. They're all talking. Everyone's talking. And she's just like looking like she's looking at like the Twitch feed and she's like and you just talked to her and she goes like me. Just kidding, you need to go. That's kind of impressive. Yeah, push it down. Yeah. Put the chlorine filter. Oh, I have to go. Oh, someone smelled their snacks in here. Someone smelled their snacks in the house. No, do not tell anyone. Put shit down underwater. No, that shit is like put that down and then also vacate the area. I have to go home. No, I'm oh, there's some weird shit. Like, this needs to be clean. Oh my god. No, that shit's foul. That's disgusting. I'm trying to think if I've thrown up anywhere else. Dude, I have like never thrown up in public, I don't think. Knock on wood, fuck. No, that was the only time. Maybe when I was hungover, but not like that shit was fucking foul. Sarah hang out my car. Yeah. Yeah. Every time you started driving, I was like, pull over. If I was throwing up, only take a photo. Don't take a video. See, if I'm sick and I'm throwing up, it's different. If I'm hungover, then you can take a photo. You can make fun of me because I did this. But my motion sickness? Don't do this. Yeah. Oof. No, yeah, really fun. Really fun. Wow. Yeah, I'm doing great now. I've grown from this. That's a lot. Yeah. We get into our question of the week. Yeah, we can't. Okay. Question two. Let's talk it over. You prefer to be pursued or to do the pursuing. I like to be pursued. Yeah. And I felt like that was gonna be almost everyone's interesting. I also like to be pursued. I was wondering if it was gonna be like a split vote, like the guys would say. I know I was wondering that be pursued. No, that they like to pursue and the women like to be pursued. But we'll have to look when we give our result. So you guys also say I kinda well I voted, I think, be pursued, but I kinda don't mind doing the pursuing Yeah. Wow I you know what? I have done it before, and it is rewarding. When you're gonna do it, when you don't get rejected. It's like I think it's kind of like in a flirty way. If I was brave enough, I'd like to over text, I'm kinda like that. Yeah. Like I'll like play in, like I'll play into it, but I want you to play into it too. Right. Like that's when I like it. When you also catch the vibe of what I'm doing, and you're on the same page, and I'm like, I like this 4D banter. Right. You know? But I don't like it when it's not being reciprocated. Yeah. Because that's it. Yeah, I think that's part of it though. Yeah. Like, are you okay with that? Are you the one starting to like their story? Or sliding up. Honestly, I don't mind it. Wow. Okay. I don't mind it. I think it's just scary. I do enjoy it though, because it's like an adrenaline rush. Well, it's like having a crush and you're like, Yes. I've tried to tell you that I like you. Yeah. It is fun, and honestly, sometimes when you like actually don't want anything out of it, it can be that. Yeah, you have nothing to lose. It's like hard to do in person. I find it very stressful to do it in person. Once it's initially started, then I can continue no problem. Right. But it's like the initial start. Over text, I can do it no problem. I can do like I could play into it, I can be fine. Yeah, I can do that. I find it so hard to like start it up. Right. Like in person, I feel like. Right. Yeah. Like go up to someone. Like I don't know what it is. It is hard. Because like once I have an in, I'm good. And I can talk and like shoot the shit. It's just like getting the in. Yeah. It's like the initial hardest part. Jump into, hey, yeah. Like, I don't know what the initial like combo is. When somebody is pursuing you, are you like both of you? Are you the type like if you're also interested in them, like are you gonna play kind of hard to get? Or are you just gonna show your cards? I'm not showing all my cards, but I'm definitely gonna be flirty so that they get the vibes that I'm interested in. So I feel like I like kind of play into like the like I'm talking to this guy on hinge. Um, but he was like saying, like on his like account, he was saying, like, oh, I'll beat you in pickleball. And I was like, so when am I beating you in pickleball? So when are we playing? Like when are we playing so I can beat you? And I'm like playing into it, I'm like, oh well, like don't go home crying or you know, like whatever. Like playing into it. Like that, I feel like that's me being flirty. Right, yeah. But like he's also playing into it, be like, mm, we'll see about that, like blah blah blah. Like so I'm like, okay. So you like banter. Yeah, I like banter too. Me too. I love a little like light roast. Yeah. But I like matching the vibe, matching the energy of him being like, no, you're gonna lose. Yeah, that's just dating in general. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I like someone who matches my vibe. She's like, I just like dating. I just want someone who likes me, okay. Okay, so we had somebody write in. Should we do you want to say no? I'll just read this first. Okay, read it. Um, we had somebody say there is a right way to let a guy chase, though. Can't make it seem like you are so uninterested that the guy backed off completely. And I agree with this actually. Yeah. Because I feel like sometimes over text, like, it's hard to tell because it's hard to do. I think something is like a little bit flirty and a little bit like I don't know, like playing like a little bit hard to get, but like still flirting. Exactly. And then like they don't answer for a little bit, or like they answer with something dry, and I'm like, okay, so they just not get it. They didn't get the vibe or like what? Because like tone says a lot. Like it's hard to see that over it. Or like the inflection of it. Like it's hard. Right. Yeah. Right. And I asked for um. Let's just start sending voice memos back and forth. No, honestly, like I would prefer that. Yeah. I would totally prefer that. Oh god. This is really long. I don't even know. Because I asked, I I said, um, I was like, can you like specify like I said, okay, what's the best way for a girl to do that without you thinking that she's not interested? And he was like, great question. Great follow-up. And he was like, well, in person, it depends. Like it's like a look and then a look away, you know. Plain I take. They're talking, but we're not like like we're t we we talk at the bar for a minute, but then it's like you don't not the whole night or whatever. And I'm like, It's like giving a little something, it's like enough for them to keep going. But exactly. It's like you're you're letting the you're letting the rat swim. Yeah. Okay. If you're letting them swim, they're gonna get taken for a little bit. You drop them a little bit hope, a little hope. Yeah, you send them a life preserve. So then he like gave an example. He was like, so I was talking to this girl on Hinge, and we were like texting, and the banter was really good, and I said, I'd love to take you on a date, and then she started answering one of my other texts and like disregarded the date. And he was like, Okay, okay, but then she's still asking questions and he's asking questions or talking, so then he asks again and she just like disregards it again. Yeah, and he's like, But we're still texting, and we're still having good conversation. So then he asked for a third time and she says yes. So he was like, She was making me chase a little bit to see if I was really like interested and I liked it. I don't know if she was doing that. Because I've done that before, and because I like have good banter with this person or whatever, especially on Hinge, like that's all you know is the texting. But if they ask me too soon, it's gonna throw me off. If they ask me to hang out in person too soon, see I'm the one who's asking right away. Really? Yeah, this guy's me out. So I don't know, maybe I don't like to talk that much before because then I'm like, oh, I don't know. Yeah, that's true. I kind of do. I don't like that either. I think it's different whether you're messaging somebody on Instagram and it's somebody that you like you know, like a friend through a friend, and like you text for like one second and they're like, I'd love to take you out. Like, perfect. That's but it's because it's a complete stranger that it's like a little scared, but like also like I don't want a pen pal. So like I'd rather you ask me out, but that's why I don't even do online dating because I'm not gonna go out with you because you're a stranger, like I'm scared. I would rather I know I like a friend of a friend, or like I meet you or whatever. Like I don't know. Right. But like also I'm open. Yeah. Because it's like I don't know. I know plenty of hinge success stories, so like I'm not totally against it. I just feel like I need to do it. It's hard for me to make a connection. Yeah, that's like why I have to do that. Yeah, because like done it. The whole thing with text, like, they don't know my banter. Like, if we were in person, like it would go off way better. But then like we're texting. I went on this date with this guy who's a great texter, and then I go out with him, and he was so awkward and so boring in person. See, that's why like so disappointed. You really don't know. Like, at least if you know someone from high school, you s maybe know if you have any chemistry at all. Yeah, but I don't want to date anyone from my high school. I know. But like anyone that you know from the past, like right. Or like a friend of a friend or like some I don't know. Exactly. Just know that they're like a normal person. Yeah. So what did our people say? What did they say? Um it goes away every time I close my phone. Okay, so the answers were pursue me or I like the chase. So 85% said pursue me, and 15% said I like the chase. Do we have any men in my our pursue me section? Um, how do I get there? Oh, see y'all. Okay. I think we did have yeah, we have that's someone I know. Um that might be it. One man come on, do you think? I think there's one man in there, and there's one man in I like the chase. I mean, we mostly have women audience, so it makes sense. Yeah, right, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. But there were a few women who said they like the chase, which And you know what? I respect that because I respect that. I respect that so much. And you know what, you know what? I've never not gotten somebody that I wanted. So like I do like respect. Amen to that. Right. And it's rewarding though when you do like go after. It's like you have the power. Yeah. But it's true, yeah. It honestly is in my court. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, okay, let me go after another one. Because if somebody's pursuing me and I'm not even a little bit interested, it's like I feel like I'm like, I'm scared. Like it's a crime. Yeah. Get out of my phone! Yeah, I did not give you permission to pursue me. I'm not interested. Oh. But then it's like, how do you say that without especially if it's like somebody you've known previously or like whatever, like you don't want to not answer and be a dick, but you also don't want to like lead them on and pretend that you're interested. Yeah. How can you be nice as a woman and a man not assume you're flirting? That's the question. That's a good question. But also as a man, because when a man and a man's nice, I you're in love with me. They're in love with me and they they want me bad. They want me bad. Real bad, I'm gonna assume. But the questions that I have. But men also assume that. They assume if we're nice that we are. That's why when you end it, you have to end it. However, it's more common for like a woman to be nice to a man they're not attracted to rather than a man being nice to a woman they're not attracted to. Yeah, right. It's kind of hard. Or it's less common. It is, yeah, it's definitely different. Yeah, it's different. Well, if anyone knows the answer to that, you guys let us know. Yeah, you let us know. You know where we're at. Ari, where can we find you? Find me at oridomain.10. Find me at Sarah Bennett, 2S's 3Ts. And you can find me at Kara Kellher pretty much everywhere, and you can find us at the talk of her pod everywhere as well. Don't forget to comment, like, subscribe. Tell your mother, tell your father, tell your send it. Comment, send us money, and comment the Kool-Aid emoji. There's no the juice box emoji. What did we talk about? Comment the Amish emoji. Oh wow, guys, this was uh a roller coaster of an episode, if you will. Yeah. We'll see you guys next month. Talk until later.