From Apple To Oranges

A Security Job In Yonkers Leads To DMX In Handcuffs with DJ Casper

Lizzette Perez Season 1 Episode 7

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He locked up DMX before DMX was DMX and somehow that wasn’t the wildest part of his Bronx-to-Florida journey.

I’m joined by DJ Casper, a Bronx native, military vet, and longtime DJ with stories that sound like they belong in a movie but somehow still feel like every New Yorker’s “you had to be there” moment. We talk about what it’s like going back home after years away, including the quick lesson he relearned on Westchester Avenue when a simple breakfast turned into a Cash App card getting stolen and a $250 surprise charge.

From there, Casper breaks down how he ended up moving from New York to Florida in the first place, why NYC burnout is real, and what felt “sparkly” about starting over in Central Florida. 

We get into the culture shock of DJing in Orlando when the crowd doesn’t want what a New York DJ instinctively plays, and how he had to study Florida music and rebuild momentum gig by gig and so much more!

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Welcome And Podcast Premise

SPEAKER_01

Besitos to you, I'm your host, Lizette Perez. From Apple to Oranges is a podcast about the New Yorkers that now live in Florida. Real stories, real people, real moments happening in both New York and in Florida. And who knows, maybe one day you'll be a guest on the show too. Because one thing I learned over the years is that when I meet another New Yorker, we can't seem to stop talking about it. And this podcast is gonna get down to all the reasons why. My guest today is the last guest on my podcast to come on blindly, not knowing what this show was about. He's a Data Five, a military vet, a DJ, and today he's gonna tell us about the time he got hip hop artist, the late, the great DMX, locked up. DJ Casper, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I am honored.

SPEAKER_01

I have been waiting to have you on for a while. I was actually hoping for you to be my first guest, maybe my second guest. But finally, we made it happen.

SPEAKER_00

I'm here. I'm here.

SPEAKER_01

I'm so grateful that you trust me.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I do. I do. You have no idea. A little bit, just a little bit. You're from, you know, you're from New York. You're from the Bronx, so.

SPEAKER_01

And so are you. All right, so first, really quick, I'm gonna backtrack a little bit because you are the last guest to come on not knowing why you were here. And I just want to explain to everybody in case this is their first time checking out this podcast. If this is the first episode you are listening to, since I've launched, all my guests came on blindly. I just kind of wanted to catch a reaction. You know, all my guests so far have been friends. Some friends from back in the day that I grew up with in New York, and some are friends that I've met here in the Orlando area. Over the past year or two, some new friends are on the show. But they trusted me enough to come on and be a guest. So, GJ Casper, I gotta ask you right now. If you had to guess, do you have a clue, any idea what I may be doing a podcast about?

SPEAKER_00

Do I have a guess?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, what do you think I came up with?

SPEAKER_00

Honestly, I I don't know, honestly. I thought it was speed dating, but you already know my girlfriend, so.

Revealing From Apple To Oranges

SPEAKER_01

What's up, Vietnam? Besty those to you, mama. Okay, so I guess I'll just tell you because I mean, I don't know if you'll ever guess it.

SPEAKER_00

No. Tell me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I'm gonna tell you what the name is first, and that sometimes throws people off.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

Until they find out what the podcast is, and then the name makes sense to them.

SPEAKER_00

Let's go.

SPEAKER_01

And when I tell you the name, I'm gonna give you a couple seconds to think about it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. From apple to oranges. From New York to Florida.

SPEAKER_01

Good job. It's stories about the New Yorkers that now live in Florida.

SPEAKER_00

That's what's up. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_01

And the reason why I wanted to have you on my show was because I know you got New York stories. I know you got New York stories.

SPEAKER_00

Funny and Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Because I remember the one time you went back to the Bronx, and like the first 20 minutes you were there, you got robbed.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. My Cash App. Yeah. You want me to tell you that story?

SPEAKER_01

Tell me the story.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so I had to go to New York to DJ an event in Jersey. So I went to the Bronx and I picked up my um turu car. And I had a female that I'm good friends with that she knows Viet, and she picked me up from where to pick up the car. So I said, you know what? Let's go eat my treat. I haven't been in the Bronx for like four years. So I see all the refugees, everybody's selling fruit on Westchester Avenue. So there's this restaurant called The Ranch on Westchester Avenue. So we went in there, you know, I ordered pancakes, she ordered her food. You know, we're laughing because we haven't seen each other. She moved from Florida back to Patterson, New Jersey.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So I haven't seen her in like two years. So we're eating our food and I went to go pay, and I forgot that they don't take cash. I took out my Cash App card to pay for the food. He said, Oh, we don't take cash. I mean, we don't take debit card card card card cards. Yeah, we don't take debit cards. Only cash. So I told the female, her name is Glenda, she's my good friend. I said, Glenda, go to my car and get me cash, because I have it in my man purse. So when she went outside to go get my money, I put the card down for a second. She came back with the money. I paid. So in my head, I had to go see my son. So I was anxious to see my son. And we leave, and not even not even three lights. I get a transaction from Foot Locker.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

For$250.

SPEAKER_01

Your reaction online anyway, the way it read, it was like.

SPEAKER_00

I was sick. I was sick.

SPEAKER_01

But you made really light of the situation. You had me cracking up when you posted about it. But let's backtrack a little bit. And I'm sorry that happened to you, by the way. So you are a DJ.

SPEAKER_00

DJ, 35 years, 36 years. Wow. Wow. I'm 36 years.

SPEAKER_01

What were you two years old?

Moving To Florida On Surprise Checks

SPEAKER_00

No, I was no, I was 20, 21. I was still in the military. Okay. And what happened was, well, let me, should I go back to I mean, you can start from wherever.

SPEAKER_01

You can start by telling us what brought you to Florida. Like what made you move here? Was it your decision? Did something happen to bring you out here?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, what happened was, and I'm gonna keep it real, this is a keep it real podcast. Me and my my ex-baby mother was having problems. So what happened was I had just had foot surgery and I got cool with the the receptionists. So I had Blue Cross Blue Shield. I used to be the manager at Rena Center for 16 years, but that's another story. So after I had foot surgery, the lady told me, she said, Mr. Barbeau, you're gonna get a check in a mail, a big check, and you're gonna give it to the doctor and they're gonna give you$200. So I said,$200? I said, okay. Like three weeks later, the check comes in and I'm still on bed rest. I'm home from work, and the check was like$1,200. So I called a lady and I said, Listen, the check came in. I'm gonna bring the check in. I bring the check in and she told me, Oh, this is not the check. The check is not big enough. You're gonna get another check. I said, okay. A month later I get a check for like$3,000. It said to the pay to the order of Eduardo Barbeau.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Blue Cross. I said, okay. So when I called, the doctor picked up. I said, hey doctor, such and such. This is Eduardo Barbeau. I'm calling because I had a foot surgery. And she told me you're gonna give me$200 for bringing the check in. He said, I don't know what you're talking about, but like he's giving me the runaround over the phone. So I go in, I give him the check. Oh, this is not the check. I said, okay. So when I get home, I don't know, when I'm on a toilet, I'm always thinking a lot. Oh my gosh. So I call Blue Cross Blue Shield. And around that time, me and my baby mother was having problems like FU, FU2 in the Bronx. So I called a lady in the Blue Cross. I said, listen, this is Edward Barbot Jr. I had foot surgery a couple months ago. And I don't know if there's a Ponzi scheme going on, but the doctor, they did my surgery. They told me if I bring the check in, that they're gonna pay me some money on the side, blah, blah. So the lady started laughing a little bit. So in my head, I'm like, this lady's not professional.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Why are you laughing? She said, I'm sorry to laugh, Mr. Barbot, but some of the patients they keep the money. I say they keep the money. She said, Yeah, that's your money. So what happens if I don't pay them? She said, I can't tell you that. I said, okay. So we was having problems. A week later, I get a check for$8,000. Oh, wow. But then we had makeup, me and my baby mother. So I said, Hey, you want to go to Florida? She said, How? I said, Packet bags.

SPEAKER_01

We're going now.

SPEAKER_00

I went to I cashed the check and we went to Florida.

SPEAKER_01

What made you want to move here though?

SPEAKER_00

Not yet, hold on. We went to Florida. We went to Florida. And her sister lived in Florida. And what happened was we went to Disney World. My my daughter was only two years old, blah, blah, blah. So then we made a decision, oh, we want to move to Florida. I said, okay, so when I get the money, we went back to the Bronx. So then it was to a point where I didn't care no about Renna Center. I wanted to move. I got a check for like$12,000 from Blue Cross. And I said, You ready to move? And that's how we moved. We moved, but not even a year two, we broke up, blah, blah, blah. That was it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so. Been in Florida since 2012.

SPEAKER_01

And you like it, obviously. I love it.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I would never move back to the Bronx.

SPEAKER_01

Well, with the crazy things that happened to you, I don't blame you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I had a lot of stuff happen to me, but you know. So yeah, so.

What He Won't Miss About NYC

SPEAKER_01

So you're one that you're really happy with the decision that you're here. Yes. That's good. So, all right, so you came down here on your own accord, you're loving it, you're DJing here. You got good things going. But let's tap into like the actual reason, like, what was it about New York that made you want to get out of there?

SPEAKER_00

I got tired of parallel parking on the other side. Oh, what is it called? Alternate side parking. Yeah. I got tired of the potholes on across Bronx, tired of just just tired. The dirt, the dirt, the New York City rats. Like, you know, and when I came to Florida, I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_01

Like when I was sparkly, everything was sparkly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, even it was to the point where, okay, you know, the Bronx is bad. When I first moved here, I moved near Conroy, like the bad part. And I'm like, this is like Drosnek. That was really like the hood where I was at. I live in a millennia over there by Oak Ridge.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know.

SPEAKER_01

I always wondered if I would have gotten tired of New York and if I would have felt like I finished New York to come out here to Florida.

SPEAKER_00

What year did you move to?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I moved here in the 90s. So you know, I was I was graduating high school. I was young, you know what I mean? So for me, it was like traumatic. I was traumatized because I didn't get to fully finish New York the way I wanted to. You know what I mean? I used to love the city. I mean, I love New York.

SPEAKER_00

I love visiting, but I don't I would never move back. My son is still there, but I would never like.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so when you do go back, what do you enjoy?

SPEAKER_00

Um the first thing, bacon, egg, and cheese, my Linden cookies.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, buttercrunch. Butter, listen, you go back to New York now, you gotta bring me at least a pack.

SPEAKER_00

I got you. Buttercrunchy.

SPEAKER_01

Give me one pack, I'm good.

SPEAKER_00

And the and the sushi cues. I don't know what it's different, it's a different taste from here in New York. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But we all know at this point, though, if you've been here long enough in Florida, we all know that a lot of things just taste different here, which is why I started this podcast so we could talk about it. But tell me, what do you actually think about the podcast? Like, what are your thoughts about the concept, the conversations that could take place, the people I can have on my show.

SPEAKER_00

It's original. I like it, you know? It's original.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's fun. I've had a lot of fun so far. You're probably like my fifth, sixth, or seventh guest. I'm losing count. So that's it.

SPEAKER_00

And you have that voice. You have the radio voice, you know.

SPEAKER_01

So Yeah, I've been doing radio almost 30 years, 30 years now, actually. But, you know, I just wanted to do something different that was fun, that speaks on something I love. I still love the city. I love going back.

SPEAKER_00

You still go back?

SPEAKER_01

I still go back. It's been, gosh, like a year and a half now, but I go back as often as I can. Ever since I started back on the radio on one or two jams, I haven't been back yet.

SPEAKER_00

So when you go back, what's the first thing you you you go eat or I usually go to Yankees Pizza and Westchester.

SPEAKER_01

Westchester and whatchester and uh Morrison exit.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you over there, yes. When they stole my money.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was that was my hood.

SPEAKER_00

With Adam Loema. That was my hood.

SPEAKER_01

I lived, I lived on Wheeler Avenue. Okay. Yeah, I lived on Wheeler Avenue. Not that one, but the one between uh Watson Avenue and Brooklyn Boulevard. That was where I lived.

SPEAKER_00

When I was the manager at Rena Center in the Brockner by the Food Bazaar, I would never rent to Elder, Colgate, and your block, Wheeler.

SPEAKER_01

But my Wheelow was the peaceful one. My wheel of between Watson and Brooklyn. Like, yeah, you tap, you touch Watson, and it's it could be chaotic, but my block was beautiful. I love my block. Nice, nice. I missed it so much.

SPEAKER_00

You said you was on Wheeler? Wheeler Avenue, right up right around the corner from Elder. You didn't know a guy named Um Indio, eh?

SPEAKER_01

Indio?

SPEAKER_00

Indio. He used to fix cars and put radios in.

SPEAKER_01

He got a daughter named Carmen?

SPEAKER_00

I don't remember, but he looked Indian.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my family knew David was his name, if that's the same guy.

SPEAKER_00

I think it is David. He's like he's like my age now, a little older. No, he would be way older. Okay, so yes.

SPEAKER_01

So unless he's Indio Jr.

SPEAKER_00

It was Indio. He was the only Indio on the block.

SPEAKER_01

The Indio I was talking about was older, like my parents' age. Okay, so but anyway, yeah. This is a small world. I'm sure there's somebody we know. Well, where exactly did you live?

SPEAKER_00

I lived on Quatona 183rd, Bathgate. I that's where I rep. But I lived on 175th. But my mom was in the military, so I was always traveling and you know, so you know.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, and you fought in a war?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. No. Okay. Well, I went to the desert storm, but that wasn't a war.

SPEAKER_01

What did you do?

SPEAKER_00

I was the armorer. I was in charge of all the weapons. Like, I even had to sleep with the weapons, so while everybody party or did anything, I had to sleep in the truck.

Becoming DJ Casper In The Bronx

SPEAKER_01

So don't mess with you. Oh my gosh. So, okay, let's go back to the whole New York thing. I want to know a couple more things. I want to know, okay. Did you tell me your favorite spot to go first? You said the bodega, right? Because you wanted your Linden cookies.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, my bacon, egg, and cheese. Bacon, egg, and cheese.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, and then where? I mean, what's your other spots?

SPEAKER_00

Other spots. City Island. Yeah. Or I would always go to the hood where I was, you know, where I got my name from, or, you know, the basic BBQs or all those spots. I'm a foodie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So do you ever do the city stuff? Like, you ever touch the city? You know, that's not something I did when I lived there. Like, we barely went to Manhattan.

SPEAKER_00

You mean the Times Square? Yeah, like do you The only time I went to Manhattan was to buy bootleg DVDs and sell them. Me and Kumai Ski, who was a king of DVD. Well, he got me into it.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know you knew him. Kumai Ski was on episode three, I think it was.

SPEAKER_00

Kumai Ski.

SPEAKER_01

Episode three, I think he's on one of my.

SPEAKER_00

I became a DJ because of him. Really?

SPEAKER_01

Tell me that story.

SPEAKER_00

Well, let me tell you how I became a DJ. I used to work at Sears on Fordham. What happened was I had a friend named Clemente that worked there, and he used to take me on a block on Bathgate. He had a girlfriend, and then he introduced me to the sister, and she had DJ equipment. So I used to play around with it. I didn't know how I didn't know how to DJ. It was like 1990 around there. So one day we did a house party and somebody got shot at my party while I was DJing. So I ran home from 183rd all the way to the concourse. I ran all the way home. We didn't have phones then and we had beepers. So I come back two weeks later, and my friend's girlfriend was like, Oh my god, we were so worried about you, Eddie. Oh, where did you go? I said, I went home. She said, Oh my god, you was a ghost. So that was a joke. They were like, Yo, Casper. So that's how I got my home.

SPEAKER_01

That's how you got your name. I always wonder, because I'm like, you're not blanquito.

SPEAKER_00

So how did that gray off? So that happened. So I wasn't taking DJing yet. So I went to a club called Bentley's back in the day. And I had to go to the bathroom and I went the wrong way. And I went by the DJ booth. I heard somebody like, yo, yo, yo, yo. And it was DJ Chuck Chill out. And I was watching him, and I was like, just watching him, like, and that's when I said I want to become a DJ. I kept buying records, buying records. And my friends said, let's go clubbing. So I met Kumai Ski at it was a spot called the Rhythm Factory on Webster Avenue in Fordham.

SPEAKER_01

I was already here in Florida. I don't know any of these spots.

The Day He Arrested DMX

SPEAKER_00

And and I used to see him host like Leaders of the New School, Buster Ron before he came out, Naughty by Nature, Tim Dog, Tribe Called Quest. And I used to watch him like wow, like he was the man. So I be, you know, like always follow him, always seeing where he was DJing. He was DJing this girl's clothing store on Fordham called M Bombini. He was there. One week he was supposed to be there, he didn't show up. But a car went through the store? The store. If he was there, he would've it would have hit him. So then we became good friends, and you know, I used to go to his gigs, and that's how I got better and better and better. And then, you know, I didn't really didn't take it serious until I started working security at Yonkers. And I don't know if I told you I locked up DMX before he was DMX. No. Okay, yeah. So I was castled, but I wasn't famous yet. So I was having my first son, and my baby mother told me I had to get a better job. So I went to security school to become a security guard, and I moved. I did my eight-hour course and my 16-hour course. And then the guy liked me. He was like, hey, listen, I like the way you participate, so I'm gonna hire you your first job. I said, okay, where? He said, in Yonkers. I said, where's Yonkers? I'm from the Bronx. He said, it's only 15 minutes from Mount Vernon. I said, really? He said, okay, I'll do it. He said, yeah, your job is to make sure nobody, you know, Lord they ring in the hallway, nobody's selling drugs, and you know, basically, you know, patrol a building. So I said, okay, so I got the job, my whole team was Muslim except me. So I was the only Puerto Rican. Everybody else had their koofies on, whatever. Everybody had the building. I had building four. I got cool with the drug dealers. But there was this one drug dealer who was real cool. So you'd be like, yo, what's up, huh? That's how they talk in Yonkers. I'd be like, listen, I don't care if you sell drugs, but don't do it in my shift and don't do it in my building. Okay, I respect you, I respect you. I said, all right, whatever. So one Saturday, I remember this day. One Saturday, I had my Walkman on and it was raining, and he's walking down the hill, and there's an African-American guy behind him walking, but he kept turning his head to make sure, like, if anybody's following him. So, comes towards me, but he had his head that What up, Casper? He goes in the building, and then the guy goes behind him, he goes in the building. So in my head, I'm like, I know this guy's not trying to disrespect me. So I counted to 30 and I went up the stairs. And when I went up the stairs, I opened the door. He's doing a transaction. He's selling him crack. So I smacked the crack out of DMX hands and I grabbed him. I didn't grab Chico because I know who he was. I said, Chico, I'm gonna get you later. In one hand I had his neck, in one hand I had a radio. I said, hey, officer need assistance. So like eight security guards, we came into the building, locked him up. I mean, we put the cuffs on and we took him to the building. The cops came, I had to do a statement. So I had to do a statement. So I was happy, you know, I'm a rookie, I just locked up a crackhead.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I did the paperwork, they took him away, and my boss told me, okay, go back to your building. So when I came out of my building, I seen like 20 guys, yo, we're gonna. I seen 20 guys, like, yo, we're gonna you up, you know, we're gonna mess you up, blah, blah, blah. So I told my boss, I said, listen, why are you gonna jump me for? I'm skinny. I just I'm still in the military. So he said, he started laughing. He said, you know who you just locked up? I said, who? He said he's an upcoming rapper. His name is DMX. I said, who is DMX? I never met him before. No, so you've heard of him? No, he wasn't even famous yet. So he did four months in Vanhaler as a jail in West Chester County. Four months later, he comes out and he sees me and he apologized to me, and we became good friends after that.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, you know, that doesn't surprise me, and I'll tell you why, because um I met him once. Here comes the boom with Sean Paul and Mr. Vegas when Mr. Vegas was big. He came to perform and he ended up showing up. I don't remember if he was supposed to be there, but I met DMX that night, and I was really surprised because he was actually really professional when they introduced him to me. You know, this is Lizette Perez from one or two jams. You know, he shook my hand. He was just really, really cool. He was really cool about his business and he was focused. And this was at the Blue Room in Orlando back in the day, for those who may remember. But I just I didn't know what to expect from DMX. He probably wasn't, but I didn't expect that. He also was very paranoid. He didn't want anyone taking pictures with a cell phone. So although I took a picture with him, I never saw it. Nobody ever showed me or gave me a copy of the picture. I think it was one of those club photographers at that time that took the picture. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. I got pictures and videos. Even like when I used to work at Renaissance, if I didn't have if I didn't do good in sales, he would come to the store and hang out with me. I'd be like, listen, I'll buy you lunch, whatever you want. I need like 20 sales today. He would come. I was with him the last console he had in Kissimmee.

SPEAKER_01

He's missed in the hip-hop world.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

Learning Florida Crowds As A DJ

SPEAKER_01

So wait a minute. Tell me as a DJ from New York, how was that part of the transition for you? How did that go as a DJ?

SPEAKER_00

I think I I'm bigger here, but I don't like it because everybody thinks now that I'm a freestyle DJ, but I'm not a freestyle DJ. I'm hip hop RB. I'm hip hop RB, but but when I came here, what happened was when I first moved here, my first party was a birthday party. And remember, I'm coming from New York. And I did a house party, and you know, the they dancing, then the strippers come and I started playing Jay-Z. And they was like, you don't play that here in Florida. So I didn't know the music in Florida. You don't have no Trinidad James or no or no Kodak. I'm like, what? So from there, I took four months not to DJ to find out what kind of music they did play here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we definitely got different crowds.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, here in Florida. We uh in Orlando was very diverse. So I could imagine your struggle starting. I mean, yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

And I was like, I was like a 90s head and you know, the 2000s, but when I came in, it was like, so that's when I met Frankie G. And like, you're Frankie G, yo, I see you do a lot of concerts. And I did my first one, then he took me another one, then he gave me another one. So I started rolling. Yeah, the freestyle, like freestyle, you know.

SPEAKER_01

I love freestyle grew up with it, but you know, I'm definitely more hip hop.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm a I think I'm a freestyle hypocrite.

SPEAKER_01

I do it to DJ, but you know, but I get what you're saying because you know, like like me being back in hip-hop radio and we're throwback station now playing what I used to love to listen to, it's been fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the station, yeah. When I first when it first came back on, I was like, oh, they can try to rule the shanty.

SPEAKER_01

You was already here at least to experience maybe a couple years of it, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, I was here you mean when ya when I said Yeah, because we flipped, like we they killed us in 2014.

SPEAKER_00

I was here already, but I was still I was still listening to New York radio because I didn't know what was playing over here. Yeah.

What Florida Gives Him Now

SPEAKER_01

So Yeah, by then we had the internet. Okay. So, so let's get back to some of the New York Florida things. Tell me what you like about Florida specifically.

SPEAKER_00

All right.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, are you an adult Disney head? Like, are you a Disney adult?

SPEAKER_00

Not really, because I hate walking. I I did Magic Kingdom one time and never go back. Never. I would never go back.

SPEAKER_01

Why?

SPEAKER_00

The walking, the heat.

SPEAKER_01

Get a wheelchair.

SPEAKER_00

You know, though Universal, I did a couple times, but like I said, after I'll do one step, but I want to go home. Oh, you want to know? Yeah. Or y'all can go for y'all can go, I'll be right here.

SPEAKER_01

VA, call me if you want to go to Disney.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so you like the beaches out here?

SPEAKER_00

Like, I don't like sand. I'd rather go to a pool.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if maybe it's my age.

SPEAKER_01

I listen, I'm trying to figure out what you like about Florida then.

SPEAKER_00

Eating the sandwiches and tasting sand, like, sandwiches on the beach. I get frustrated. She's into all that. She's the fun one. You know, she's the fun one. I can't even go to a party, like a regular birthday party, because I'm going straight to the DJ.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I can't sit down and relax. You gotta be. Like, I'm listening to see if they're doing a mix, right? Or, you know. You dare to judge them. So, you know.

SPEAKER_01

So, okay, so what you like about Florida, the tranquility.

SPEAKER_00

The weather. You like the weather? I love the weather.

SPEAKER_01

You like the spirit. I love the weather.

SPEAKER_00

I love the weather. The weather. I'm trying to lose weight. The weather, um some of the food, some of the spots, you know, there's a whole bunch of different spots I go to.

SPEAKER_01

Some foodie spots now. I mean, Orlando's becoming a foodie town for real.

SPEAKER_00

My favorite spot is Kobe's. I don't know why. Really? I love Kobe's.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

When I first got here, I thought Golden Corral was like, oh my God, like I'm in heaven. But that's like McDonald's to Florida, you know? So, but other than that, you know, just the environment, the people. I mean, you get the people the knucklehead sometimes, but you know, I don't fight fair.

SPEAKER_01

So But it's cool because like when you move down here, though, New York is out here. There's a lot of stuff that's familiar. Do you feel like that helped you in your

SPEAKER_00

Transition because Yes, Kissimmee.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, because that's where you live?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no. I lived in Orlando, but I remember I DJ, so I I used and I used to work for Renaissance, so I used to drive everywhere. So I'm like, oh my god, all these Puerto Ricans, old town, you know, so I didn't experience that when I first moved.

SPEAKER_01

No? No, we moved to Lake Mary from the Bronx. Oh you've been to Lake Mary? Of course.

SPEAKER_00

Lake Mary is like it's like a little, you know.

SPEAKER_01

It was so different when I moved here. Oh my gosh. But yeah, so for me, my story's different.

SPEAKER_00

Because you moved from the hood hood to, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, even though I was a teenager, we were kind of wiser beyond our years. You know, we were already moving in the city like an adult, like, you know, taking the bus, taking the train, you know. So I wasn't like a typical, like my daughter right now. She just turned 20. But she's been raised out here, and she's very much, she's 20, but she's like a 15-year-old.

SPEAKER_00

She's never been in New York She's never been in New York?

SPEAKER_01

I've taken her a couple times. When my twins were born, she was only three, and they were born with their medical needs, and that kept us stuck in Florida for a while without taking trips. She was around the age when they were when the twins were born that I was gonna start taking her to the city because I wanted to put her on the swings in New York and just take her to the Bronx Zoo and do little things that I did as a kid, you know, that gave me some of my memories. I didn't get to do that with her until she was 16. That was the first time I took her back. So she got to see, and I wonder. I was like, yo, wait till you see my cousin and her kids. I'm like, they're gonna seem so much older to you. And she was like, wow. Because like my little baby cousin Brianna, she was 11 at the time. And Melinda's like, yo, she moves like she's older than me. I'm like, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_00

I was living in Jersey, I remember my father till this day. I was 13 years old coming from Jersey to New York. My mother didn't want to bring me, so I would take the train at a 13 years old.

SPEAKER_01

I remember, go ahead, go ahead. So, you know, so now you can't even like I like when I took her, I was like, okay, when I have to stop and look at my purse or something, you gotta look around and have my back. You gotta like, you know, we gotta be ready for anything. And she did good. She wasn't scared, you know. I was like, okay, she got some Lizzette in her.

SPEAKER_00

The day I moved here from Florida, I came in a U-Haul and I'm taking stuff out, and these two teenagers came to me. Could we help you? I'm like, if you don't get out of my face, because I still had the I still had that New York in me. Yeah, yeah. Like, why are you stepping to me? What you need? Get out of my face. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So what kind of kid were you in New York? What kind of teenager were you in New York? Would you say you had a good childhood memories or bad childhood memories? Were you a good kid or a bad kid?

SPEAKER_00

I was bad. I was a delinquent. I went to my prom twice. That's how bad I got left back twice.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was bad. That's why I joined the military because I I sold drugs for one day. And it wasn't drugs, it was powder, and the lady started crying, so it scared me. So that's when I joined the army and I left. Wow. Yeah, I was like I can we have a three-hour podcast about Toy Stories.

Why New Yorkers Still Need Each Other

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You definitely gotta save it for the next one. Now that you know what the show's about. And that's my goal, my hope is that New Yorkers will continue to feel connected here as they transition. I love hearing the stories, I love sharing stories. Please share this podcast with another New Yorker. Because they may need this. Maybe they haven't found their people yet.

SPEAKER_00

I used to always get happy. Like when I first moved there, I saw a New York. Oh my god, give me a hug. Right? You from New York.

SPEAKER_01

Why is that?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. It's the vibe. We know each other. We're we're we're we're we're aggressive. We're arrogant. Like it's like we know each other.

SPEAKER_01

There's just a vibe. You can't hide the vibe.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I find it crazy too when you leave, there are things and even some of the people in New York that you end up missing that you don't realize you're gonna miss. At least for me. Because again, keep in mind, I didn't move here when it was my choice. But I remember there was a girl, Mesito Samaisha, Wheeler Avenue. She lived in one of the like four or five-story walk-ups that we had on that block.

SPEAKER_00

On Wheeler. On Wheeler?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And, you know, she didn't come outside and play that much. In school, she was always getting fights. We were cool, but we were, you know, we didn't have a chance to really become good, good, good friends. But we grew up together. And we had a lot of the same friends. We knew a lot of the same people. You know, it was one of them funny things that, you know, she ended up being one of them people that I missed. And I didn't really have a good reason because like I said, we weren't that close, right? So I remember I was watching TV and I would watch like the talk shows like Ricky Lake and you know, whatever, whatever had a New York audience. I would be looking in the audience for people I know. Yeah. And one day, me and my sister Jeanette, we were just crying, watching TV. We got yelled at, we were bored, we were miserable. And uh, we're watching the TV, and all of a sudden we see Myesha laughing. And she was just laughing, ah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, she was in the audience? She was in the audience. Okay. On what show, you remember?

SPEAKER_01

It was Uptown Comedy Club. And me and Jeanette looked at each other. We started laughing and crying because it was so good to see her face. And they kept showing her. So it was like one of those moments, like, oh, New York is the best. Look at my people.

SPEAKER_00

Nice.

Sponsor Shoutout And Next Episode

SPEAKER_01

So, yeah, this is what this podcast is about, Casper. You were my last guest to come on, not knowing what the show was about. So, in some ways, I feel like I'm about to get the show started.

SPEAKER_00

This is good. I like this.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. Oh my gosh, and thank you so much for trusting me enough once again to come on the show.

SPEAKER_00

I gotta come back. I'm not even 10% done.

SPEAKER_01

I will definitely have you on the show again one day soon.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01

DJ Casper.

SPEAKER_00

You already know DJ Casper183.

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Yeah, give him a follow. And thank you so much for being on the show, for being on this podcast from Apple to Oranges.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you once again.

SPEAKER_01

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