Episode 17: NFL Updates & Fantasy Dos & Don'ts, featuring Sammy

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome back, watchers and listeners. We are kicking off our second guest series, our fantasy football series. So we're welcoming on our good friend Sam. How you doing, buddy?

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Oh, I'm doing well. I'm pretty hyped to be talking some fantasy football here. It's the perfect time of the year to start talking. It's never too early.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

It's never too early. All the fantasy accounts I follow have been locking stuff in, putting stuff out there. Um, before we get into our NFL news, how many fantasy champions and podiums do we have between the three of us?

SPEAKER_02 0:36

Oh, we don't count podiums anymore. We're from New England.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

I can tell you about that.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

From New England, Emma. We count championships only. We each got two in the modern era.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Yeah, we have well, we have the common era and then the BC, which is which is before we were the ten man that we are today.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

So Sammy has one extra BC, but I don't like to count that one.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Okay, so as a 10 man.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Two as a 10 man. I I've got one, so we're pretty qualified here to talk some.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

We're fighting for the belt right now for our league. We'll see. This might be one of our years.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Yeah. Well, we'll get into all that later. We should probably start with some NFL news. Again, it got really slow, and then it just came hot again.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

I mean, that's how they do it. These teams, they're these GMs, they're like, alright, we're not in the news. Let's uh do something crazy here.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Yeah, they're going Jerry Jones on it. So I'm gonna hit you guys with this one first. Cole and I touched on it on our last pod. How are you feeling about these now approved ref rules and the fact that we're probably looking at replacement refs and New York will be able to call in.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

I'm praying it's a big bluff. That's I mean, the NFL's last ace up their sleeve, like pushing the NFL or the referee association's hand and just being like, alright, we don't care at all. But I mean it's hard to imagine, it's hard to believe we're not gonna recognize a single ref on TV this year. And it's gonna just be.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

I mean, I think it's happening. I don't think it's a bluff.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Yeah. Yeah. You never know. Sometimes I'm like, what are these refs? Why are they being so stubborn? I feel like. I feel like there does need to be some compromise. Like, I agree with them, they should be paid like their full-time employees, higher salaries, right? If we're asking more of them. And then, yeah, there should be a level of accountability for mistakes made in games.

SPEAKER_04 2:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

That's all we're asking for. A level. Like, that's where it's just. I don't agree. Like, I'm sure the NFL is fucked up in some senses around this, and maybe being maybe Roger Goodell is being the bad guy, and maybe but like, I'm kind of with him in some elements. There's too many controversies, there's too much money bet on this, there's too much. There does just need to be like a level of accountability across the board for officiating that raises the stakes for them in the game. Don't get it wrong. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Yeah, absolutely. Sammy, how do you think it's gonna affect the viewer experience, New York calling things in?

SPEAKER_01 3:14

I really hope it doesn't slow down the game more. I think it might.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

We're gonna see a lot more of whatever his name is, that guy they always bring in the rules special. Gina. Gina. Gene. Yeah, Gina. Honestly, big winner, Gene. Yeah, dude's getting paid this evening.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Every rules analyst for every um broadcast agency should be negotiating their contract right now. Like they're about to get a lot of screen time. No, I think we're all pretty on the record that we don't like this.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Yeah, and I I feel like anytime there's more instant replay involved, it's sort of like opening Pandora's box a bit, where it's like there's always another angle and a slower, you know, picture that you can look through, slower video, whatever. And you're never gonna it's just gonna make it more confusing. Like you're never gonna if it's a close call, you need to just call it and stand by your call.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

Exactly. Embrace the human era of sports.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Yes. I could see us going in a full circle where over the next five to ten years everything is fully automated. Yeah. And then in the next decade, the new commissioner is like, you know what? We're going back to old school, no video replays. Like, yeah, I don't know. I think it is, it's gonna be a conversation every year with the new tech that's coming in, what can be reviewed.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

It'd be interesting if they tested like no video replay in college or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Yeah, or the pre-speople.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

The one bright side is like I do all those conversations were coming. Let's we're testing it out this year. This is full-on. New York can make any call. Like, what does this feel like as a fan? There is a world where it's like, you know what? Most calls were people they got right because New York looked at it. Like, I could there that's a there's a chance it's okay, I think. I do think that's on the board.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Yeah, I'm just with Sammy though. I don't want it to slow down the game. Football's great because it's high stakes.

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Yeah. And just the wondering after every play. Like, are they gonna get a call? As a fan of your team, every play is gonna be like, he touched him! He touched him! Like, literally, like Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

I mean, as soon as the Chiefs are good again, it's good, there's gonna be some sort of DPI that just don't worry, you got time.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

You got time.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

I don't know. Looks like we're trending up. Vegas likes us a lot more than they like you.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

Um, I know here's some guy that you that Vegas would love if the Patriots got, though. Just a quick talking point. Browns restructured Miles Garrett's contract. Um, they're still maintaining Jimmy Haslum that he is not trading Miles Garrett ever. But basically, it's it's a little convoluted the contract, but it essentially makes him more tradable by shifting around his option bonuses and changing his base salary.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Yeah, I mean, I from what I understand about it, it basically there's no reason to really do it unless a trade is on the board. But at the same time, it is just smart business. Like, we're not gonna give him this $30 plus million dollar bonus if there's a world where he walks out the door. So you're just waiting for the season to start and you know that he's officially on the roster.

unknown 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

But then it totally that thinking totally contradicts this idea that they're never trading him ever. So now it's on the board.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

I haven't thought about that, but I'm gonna start by saying, Sammy, are you a Shador guy? Because Cole and I have shaved years off of our lives arguing about Shador. Are you a Shador guy?

SPEAKER_01 6:41

I've heard that argument before between you two. So uh Um. I do think I think he has the ceiling to be a really good NFL player. I think he's got all the physical traits. I think he really could be a great NFL player. See Do I think he will be a great NFL player in the situation he's in?

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Yeah, I mean, no one can be. Look at Baker.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

I don't think that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Um my thing about Shador's traits, though, he he's mobile, but I wouldn't call him a rushing quarterback. In fact, I would say a ceiling like that would be like a Joe Burrow. Like Joe Burrow can scramble, but he's not scrambling all the time. And also, similar to Joe Burrow, Shador doesn't have the s biggest, strongest arm. He's very accurate, but he's not gonna wow you with a downfield throw like Josh Allen or Caleb Williams. Like one of these guys who's just arm strength, arm strength, arm strength. I so I'm not in love with the traits or the leadership. Those are things I have issues with, but I think he likes the accuracy, he could be an FL quarterback. But this brings me to I think Miles Garrett is a brown in 2026. And I think if Shador Sanders is good, he's a Brown in 2027. Does that make sense? Like, there's they're testing out this sophomore quarterback. There's no reason to get rid of your best player, the best defensive player we've maybe ever seen, if your quarterback can be good. But if he's not, blow it up.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Is Shador their quarterback? Like, do we know that? I don't think so. I mean, I believe in him. I think he should be. I'm on the record there, but I don't know. Like, I feel like that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Oh, I saw the Deshaun Watson thing that he has a chance to start. I mean, I'm the Browns. I I'm not starting Deshaun Watson. I'm seeing what I have with Shador.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Oh yeah, no. Yeah, you can't start Deshaun Watson.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

But that that it's either gonna be Deshaun or Shador.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Okay, then okay, then I feel pretty good about that. What about the draft? Don't they have picks?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of analysts are saying, like, oh, they should take a chance on Ty Simpson.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

I I feel like honestly, but I I don't hate it.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

I do think the Jets are gonna snatch him, um, or the Rams. I I think that the Browns can't use their sixth overall pick on Ty Simpson.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

Yeah, no, that's definitely true.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Yeah. So I my whole take is I basically think that they should see if Shador's good this year and then maybe trade Miles Garrett. But if Deshaun's a factor, it's like I then I don't even know, blow it all up.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, no, I think if if that's the situation right now, I think it's definitely Shador. And I agree with you. I mean, if Shador is bad, but again, it's been that for the whole way with the Browns. It was always like, hey, your roster's so bad, you probably shouldn't be paying Miles Garrett. And then they're like, five-year deal. As much as you want, keep it coming, like, you know what I mean? I don't know. So I I could just see them doing it still.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

I mean, as a football fan, I'd rather see Miles Garrett somewhere else, but at least he's staying there and not wrecking game. So Yeah, facts. Um, okay, let's go to the next great AFC US quarterback. Um, tall, accurate, super Christian, really good guy. And no, we're not talking about Fernando Mendoza. We're talking about Kirk O'Chains to the Raiders. How are we feeling about Kirk, Sam?

SPEAKER_01 10:03

How old is Kirk now?

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Um, he's good. He's late 30s. He's around Stafford. He's I think he's a little older than Stafford, right? So like 30, 37.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

He's not young. He's not young.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Um, I mean, I love Kirk. I think he is one, I mean he almost has like clean-cut Ryan Fitzpatrick vibes, kinda. If that makes sense. Like he's just this like sort of loose canon, but also really actually pretty good at the city.

SPEAKER_04 10:36

You like that?

SPEAKER_01 10:37

And yeah, just like, I don't know. I I never know where to go with Kirk.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

I mean sounds like he might start week one.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Well, 100%. You don't pay a guy like that. Yeah. Like he has to start week one. Or this was the stupidest movie I've ever seen in my life. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

I mean, do you let's let's go over a few names. Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers. What do those four guys have in common?

SPEAKER_01 11:05

They all sat.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

They all sat. If I'm Fernando Mendoza, I want my name to join that list.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

I hate him sitting the whole year. I think that's a big mistake by Brady if he is.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

But Mahomes and Brady both sat a full year. Aaron Rodgers sat too.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

I think it's a different game now, and I don't know. I just think that's too much wasted time to learn. Like, then your rookie season becomes that. I do think it's the game has changed a bit and there's a lot on the quarterback. And also the quarterback's safer. Like, you're not taking as many, you know, you're protected as much as the NFL can at this point. Like, I just think you have to go make those mistakes. I like him sitting through week seven, maybe. But like he needs to. Mendoza needs to start this year, or you don't take him number one. That's what I think. I don't think the sitting a whole year works for a 1.1.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

I don't know. I really strongly disagree. I mean, but I'm thinking maybe week 14, like, clearly the season's over, play a few games. I also wouldn't mind like a little fourth quarter, Raiders are getting blown out, like Mendoza comes in just to like.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

No, yeah, I wouldn't like that at all. He needs his first game. He's 1.1. Like, his first game is his start, team is his. Like, the first time you see him in the NFL, that's what it needs to be, I think.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Do you believe in Mendoza, Sammy?

SPEAKER_01 12:36

I do. I yeah, I mean, how many 1.1s like truly end up being full-on busts?

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Kyler Murray. A lot. So many. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Jameis Winston, right? Yeah. Jameis Winston's not a bust. Are you kidding me? 30 for 30. You're a hell of a career. Hell of a career. Hell of a career. I mean, I think that catch he made last year on the Giants.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Oh, that was like play of the year.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

That was insane.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

No, I believe in Mendoza, but I also think the Raiders, even if they're good this year, like, there's not enough wins in the AFC West to go around. Even if the Chiefs still implode, there's not enough wins. Like, there's just simply not. Um, I yeah, so I just feel like there's not a don't put a pressure on him to win. I think Kirk will be really good.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

I don't think there'll be pressure to win. And I do like him learning from Kirk. My best mentor. I just do think it needs to be between like weeks five and week eight that you get Mendoza in there. I look at it like one, I mean, you have the Jane Daniels season, so it's possible for guys to be good right away. And then you have kind of the failed, like, Caleb year and the Drake may three-win year. Yeah. But they they got to make all those mistakes and see the game and feel the pace. And then you saw this massive leap for them. So, like, I want him to make mistakes when there is absolutely zero pressure to win. Because then if you do start him after no starts his second year, there becomes a lot of pressure to win, kind of.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

We didn't see Mahomes until week 16, and then the next- I think Mahomes and Brady, they're the two best.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Yeah, like I think that's kind of a coincidence, to be honest. Like, I don't think their careers would have changed that much if they just started. It's like they're the two bet it's only two guys, and they're the best.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

Would you put Aaron Rodgers in that group? Not in the greatness group, but in terms of not like he could have started right away.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Yeah, maybe. I do think Brady and Rogers to it so long ago that that was a different spot.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Well, Mahomes then Mahomes and Lamar. Let's talk Mahomes and Lamar.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

Yeah, maybe that's better. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Uh yeah, I I I get it. I think week eight is the earliest I want to see Mendoza. I'm thinking more of week 10 to 12.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Week 10 to 12 is probably a sweet spot. Like September and October football's behind you, that we have a shape of the AFC landscape, like a little more solidified on what the Raiders' expectations. I think week 10 to 12, I'd be okay with.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Do you think that decision is at all dependent on Kirk's play?

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Because if Kirk's cooking, yeah, if Kirk's cooking. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I mean, Kirk could be cooking.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Do you guys think Drake May would have gone in as soon as he did if Jacoby Brissett wasn't like actually dog shit?

SPEAKER_02 15:26

Yeah, we all we were ready to see him. Yeah. He looks so good.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Well, at the beginning of the season, Cole, you told me like you were expecting to see a week eight, week ten, then he's in there by like week five, six. You know what I mean? Like I do think it accelerated it.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Yeah. Well that's the thing. When you're a bridge guy, any like a mistake. You know what I mean? A game losing play. Like, the fans want the next guy up. Like it's mistakes are heightened 100% when you're under that kind of like brissett wasn't that bad, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Well, going back to Brissett when he was playing for Brady, when Brady was out on that suspension. Yeah. He went what? Three and one? I think Garoppolo got the first start.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

And that's also with like Pete Belichick defense.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Yes. No, I'm not I'm not necessarily comparing, but I'm just saying, like, when you are the second or third guy up, you're playing your heart out.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

I do think Kirk would they keep him in, but there would be a cutoff. Like a disaster if Mendoza doesn't see the field this year.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Well, so I don't know if Kirk's gonna cook because this is I mean, you play the Chiefs twice, the Broncos twice, the Chargers twice, you play the Seahawks, the Niners, the Rams, you play the Bills and the Patriots. This is the AFC West schedule this year.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Like I Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

So it's I think he could put up numbers and they still have a win by week eight.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Yeah. They're not gonna be great, let's be real.

unknown 16:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Which isn't a bad thing. You know what I mean? Get another good pick. No pressure on your first year quarterback.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Get the best edge next year.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Look at the paths. Yeah, that's how we got Will Campbell. Exactly. Like, I it's a good recipe. And I like what they're doing. Like an adult in the room for Mendoza. There's zero pressure.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

He's gotta be the best mentor they could have found for Mendoza.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Yes, exactly. So like it's it feels like a real plan. Like Brady's gonna develop this quarterback. Like, they're not just like, alright, fix our franchise. You know what I mean? Like a lot of teams do. So I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

I've caught myself doing this too. Like, being like Brady's gonna do this, Brady's gonna do that. Oh, I trust the Raiders under Brady. But he last year said he didn't have anything to do with last year's draft. And I understand he's trying to get more control, but his ownership stake, I mean, he has the other billionaires he brought in that back up his stake, but he's still technically a minority owner. Like, how much do you think do you think Kubiak and whoever their GM is, uh SpyTech, maybe? It's a it's one of the Johns is like actually going to break like do you know what I mean? Like how much like we all think of it because he's Tom Brady. Oh, yeah. But how much do we think he's actually controlling?

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Well, we were talking about this just like. Yeah, we actually just had this conversation.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

I think Brady has little to no power in actual decisions. I think his word is taken under very strong consideration.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

And I do think every decision makes it to his desk. At the end of the day. Well, that's what I'm saying. He has to. He gets the yes or the no. Like, I do think that.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

I agree, he gets the final yes or no, though.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

He's just an advisor.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

I think he I think he's just the most strongly considered. That's right. He gets a word in and it's the most strongly considered.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

I mean, yeah, even quarterbacks now in the league, there was a story that Lamar was really involved in um Ravens offseason moves. Josh Allen was involved in the movie. Josh Allen. And then and then last week it got leaked that Mahomes is in the that does draft meeting. It's like, yeah, player.

unknown 18:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

It's like I I think I trust Mahomes, Lamar, and Josh to like be part of that discussion. And like obviously Brady's tripled that and is older and is not is now fully an exec. So of course I want his opinion. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

I mean, I do think probably the coach, like, I don't think he's made coming up with every idea and like he's not he's not the GM. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 19:19

No, no, I mean I thought they were gonna draft Shador because he mentored Shador, but then Brady came out later and was like, I never really had interest in drafting Shador. So clearly, like, he also maybe told them that he didn't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah. It just yeah, it it feels like a well-thought out plan.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Yeah, I agree. Okay. Going to a team that my poor AFC West plays this year, uh, my I would say my my NFC crush. As you guys know, I have to be a Bears fan because of Grace, but my NFC crush is the Rams. I'm Georgia girl at heart. I love Stafford, and his number one receiver just can't seem to stay out of trouble. Um Puka goes to rehab. What do we think of this story after he bit a girl and did anti-Semitic things and does video game to streamers and says racist stuff? Like, what to do with Puka?

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Honestly, it's given me like almost Antonio Brown.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Yes. It is. It's kind of just like something's not. It's not just it's not AJ Brown or George Pickens. It's like a different, it's not just like D.Va receiver. It's like, oh, this guy has like a boost. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

I mean, there's there's some videos like of him just like super drunk, like falling out of the car. And you know, like, we've all been there, we all like to have a good time, but we're we're not in the spotlight. We're not a we don't have a $50 million contract potentially like a year looking at us. Um, you know, you could be young and dumb, but I think I think this has crossed the line. Like his aggressive behavior, his racist behavior, his anti-Semitic behavior, and of course, like these videos coming out where he just seems like out of control at parties and drinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Yeah, he wasn't ready for the spotlight, maybe. That's what I was gonna say. Nobody knew his name, and he's arguably the best receiver in the NFL now. Like, no one plays like him. It's a lot, yeah. I hope he can get through it. Because I mean, he could have a 10-year career, win a Super Bowl MVP. Like, he has that level potential.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Like, yeah, and I mean let's Hall of Famer.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Let's look at the Rams. They drafted Jared Goff, high-level character guy. They traded for Matthew Stafford, high-level character guy, Aaron Donald, a high level character guy. They just traded for Trent McDuffie, who the Chiefs literally were like, we don't want to get rid of him. He's the nicest guy in the world, but we had to do this. Like, it is the the guys that they collect are really strong character guys. So this is why I think this is such a red flag, because they have a good culture. They have Stafford's a great leader, McVay's a great leader, Les needs a great GM. This It's truly like a sour grape in the mix.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

So I don't know. I I do hope he works through it. I do think though that contract is not coming until next offseason, if it is coming. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Is there any potential because he went to rehab, is there like a court case or is there any potential for a suspension coming, or is it just kind of you can't get suspended for going to rehab, but apparently the the girl who s who he like allegedly attacked has since withdrawn the case.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

There's been mixed reports about this. I mean TMZ is not a reliable source. Um it sounds like she is not pressing charges and it might just go civil, and the NFL can't do anything about a civil case. But also, like they don't want to punish. I mean, Max Crosby went to rehab like after his. Oh yeah, not for going to rehab. Yeah. For biting. That's like, oh my god. So I was a I was at Summer Camp Manager last summer, and I was in charge of the four to five-year-old division. Actually, I saw one of the kids out last night very random. But it like I was the person who the counselors would bring the kids to when they were bad. I can't tell you how many boys I had to say not to bite people, but apparently we're still doing that at 23 years old. Never learn, yeah. So that's pretty fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

And is Puka only 23?

SPEAKER_00 23:16

He's gotta be 23, 24. He's younger than us.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yeah, yeah. We're getting old. We're getting old.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

I know, you know, like I'm looking at these draft reports to prep for our mock draft, and all these things are like this children, yeah. This guy's too old, and he's like 24. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

That's how I felt watching March Madness this year. I was like, oh my god, these kids are yeah, young.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Yeah, but my big takeaway is that I don't think Puka's getting paid this offseason. And if he doesn't get together, he's not a Ram in 2027.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Yeah. And and biggest loser is the Rams, because he's he doesn't have, he's not gonna hold the same trade value or yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Oh, another sneak peek to my mock draft. I do have the Rams taking a receiver with their the Falcons pick. It's like pick 11 or 12 or something.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

So hey, you need you need like six weapons if your quarterback can't move, so they should. Or if literally the best Puka. First round receiver. They wanted AJ Brown.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I mean, how long does rehab take? Is Puka there? This like I don't you know I mean, like who knows how it goes. So yeah. Let's end with another NFC big dog that can't seem to stay out of the news. Um the Philadelphia Eagles, who I last year, every time I saw a child wearing a Philadelphia Eagles shirt, I would death stare them. Now I just feel bad for them. Yeah. Now I'm just like, oh. So everyone by now has seen the ESPN article basically torching Jalen Hurts. Um, Siriani comes off not looking great either, saying that Jalen Hurts won't go under center. He's hard to coach, he doesn't do certain things, he has a standoffish attitude, like not in with the locker room. Cole is the Resident Hurts guy. How are you feeling?

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Honestly, I was pretty out. I was more out on the Eagles by the end of the year than you were, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

But I mean, yeah, I just think when you're in the playoffs and you have a championship pass, I just trust you more than I trust other teams.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Totally. He really flip-flopped high key on Jalen Hurts this year, and the reason is the way I have a really good buddy who diehard Eagles fan, and like seeing him and his other Eagles fans' friends, like when the fans don't like the quarterback, like I do feel like he was the most anti-Jalen Hurts person I'd ever talked to. After he had just won a Super Bowl and went to another one, like I don't know. The fans I think don't trust Hurts, which really gives me the ick because like I pretended to trust Mac Jones when he was my quarterback. You know what I mean? Like, when they're your quarterback, I feel like you're supposed to just inherently love them. And like.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

I don't know. I really liked Collins' take on it, which was like, it's very Russell Wilson in Seattle by the.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

That comp just keeps proving more and more true.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Yes. Like it is verging on that, where like maybe what I thought was like a really good. Like when they did beat the like, I just thought he was so composed, right? When they beat the Chiefs and he walked in and the screen had all the Chiefs on it, and you just see him, like, look up at it and like walk by. Like, I don't know. Maybe he was aura farming. Like it kind of is icky now.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

The more of that I see it's always I've always thought he's had a little bit of that, but to be honest, I've I've actually he's been my favorite eagle. Like, I think I think he's a really high-level guy. I like that he's an all-woman management team. I like his politics. Um, I think he's like a he seems like a really great guy. He seems really into his wife, which I think like as you get more into your partner, you spend less time with your friend. So maybe it takes you away from the locker room. But on the flip side of that, you see Mahomes really in with the locker room, you see Drake May really in with the locker room, Josh Allen, these guys who have n wives we see all the time.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Right, exactly. So I don't know. Mahomes in the locker room trying to get away from his wife.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

That's what happens when you have kids in like fucking two or three. Hey, I I I do love Britney. I'm not even gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

No, Brittany's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

She is she is so herself, and that video of them courtside the games, Mahomes is like, I need you to have a good face.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Like, I'm like, that's so I'm like, that's like I feel like we would like hanging out with her. Like, she's just like a little wild. But no, yeah, I mean, also, when you got kids, I don't think you mind being in locker room. Like, Stafford's got four daughters, like he's gonna be in locker room. But these guys have wives and families, and the locker rooms love them, so I don't know if it's a wife thing with Hertz.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Yeah. Totally. I don't know. I do think it's a bad look. Like, Hertz is too good to move off from. That can't be on the board. And so Siriani can't be saying shit.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

This is Philadelphia. What the fuck are you talking about? They will fire a coach after you win a Super Bowl. They, these, these, this Philadelphia fired Andy Reid, and then he won three Super Bowls. Like, it is. This is they're cutthroat. They're they will move off him.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Off Hertz, you think? Yes. I think move you just named a bunch of coaches.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

That is super different to me than moving off of Nick Foles, Carson Wentz, they were doing well when they moved off them.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

They didn't go to two Super Bowls and win one and get a Super Bowl MVP. Like.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Nick Foles did!

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Yeah, but he didn't leave them there the whole year. He came in, he was, he did a Joe Flacco run. Like.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Villy moves fast.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

I get it. That's a huge mistake, moving off of Jalen Hurts. I think, like, you can be unhappy with it and try to fix it and something. I don't know. I would not move off Hurts right now.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

I wouldn't either, but I think they would.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

No. Not I mean, definitely not this year.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

No, not this year, but what if 2027's a disaster?

SPEAKER_02 28:51

But now Nick Siriana just said those things. You have to go, you got 17 games scheduled with this guy as your quarterback. Like, I don't like the vibes. I don't know. Um, I think it's a big mistake by Sirianni. I think, like, borderline, like, what are you doing, dude?

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Yo, Sam, do you have Philly in the playoffs next year? Like, way too early predictions.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Ooh, that's a tough one. Um. Oh, there's so much that goes into that. Like, is AJ Brown still there? That's true.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

I think the Cowboys are winning that division. They have the best offense, probably the second best offense to the Bengals. Like, and they get a wild card.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Yeah, I mean, I think he's still pretty loaded up.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

I do think this is gonna eat if AJ Brown leaves.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Yeah, Eagles, I yeah, I could see going either way. They could be like a six-win team. If they lose Brown, vibes are still bad, like they don't draft a good O lineman. Yeah, Siriani is reeling. I don't know. I still like their defense.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Yeah, I mean, yeah. I love their defense. I I do think that they're a wild card team if they make it.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Yeah.

unknown 29:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Calcuns could fall apart, though. That's the thing. Like, is that their competition? The Cowboys? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

I mean, a lot of people are picking the Giants, a lot of people are picking the commanders. That's honestly one of the more interesting divisions in football.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

That is true. I actually that is a very interesting race.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Everyone's just mid, and someone will come out.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Yeah, one team is actually gonna take the step, and probably three are gonna be like, God damn it again. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

That actually brings me to a question that I just have been curious about, which is do we think neighbors returns to full performance next year?

SPEAKER_00 30:33

I hope so. I like him a lot. I like neighbors too.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

I really like him.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

But I don't know. I mean, I here I am believing in Mahomes, but also he's not a receiver. It's like it's so hard, like, because that a leg injury to a receiver, that's just like it could be career-ending. I think he maybe they're I mean, he is young, though.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

That's young, though. Yeah, like that's right.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

They could use it more as a slot guy, not just go routes, like over-the-middle mesh concepts. I think he'd be good at that. I don't know if his top speed will be there. I think I think he will be back.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

He's gotta be like 24, 23.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

No, I think he'll be back, but he's we've he's proven to be injury prone. This actually teases our next segment. I will not be drafting Malik Neighbors.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Yeah. Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Unless it's like a third round fall to me.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Okay, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Any last Eagles thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 31:27

Um, they're trading AJ Brown to the Patriots June by June 2nd. I think it's the Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Or the Ravens. I think it's the Patriots, but I would I would prefer the Patriots. I think they're I I tr I honestly believe in Drake May more as a depot threat than Lamar Jackson, which maybe makes me sound crazy. But I've heard the Ravens are in the mix.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I saw that a little bit. I maybe it's because I'm a Patriots fan, that's my feed, but I keep seeing things. And honestly, somewhat reputable sources being like, it's happening.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Like Yeah, I saw that it's probably gonna be an AFC team. Howie doesn't do a lot of in-conference ones. I I think AJ Brown's gone. I do think though, if you're a disaster this year, you blow it up. And Philly has proven they're not afraid to blow it up. Yeah. But I like Hertz. I don't want them to move off of Hertz, but you do have to be the leader that team needs, and you do have to be okay with going under center. I want the Chiefs to go under center more. This league is turning under center, like, over the last two years. Also, he he doesn't want to scramble as much anymore. He's a threat with his legs.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Yeah. I don't know if I buy it. I don't I don't fully know. It's so weird. I don't know. It feels like a Siriani problem to me. Oh, locker's out? Not everyone's committed. Siriani. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 32:49

I am not a Siriani fan. I think if I'm making a top 10 coach list, I don't care about his ring. He's not on it.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

So. Yeah. Um, shall we get to some fantasy?

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Let's do it. Finally.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

This is gonna be the first episode of our fantasy football series. We're gonna be bringing on guests, talking some fantasy. We're gonna do an episode later on how to get your girlfriend to play fantasy. My girlfriend has won more titles than me and has podiumed basically every time and has made the playoffs every time she's played. So that's pretty impressive. Um, I'm in three fantasy leagues. Uh, one I'm in with Cole with our New York friends. Another one I'm in with Cole with a bunch of couples, which don't even talk to me about that one. And then one, I'm in with my family, which is so much fun because I'm forced to talk to my family. What about you boys?

SPEAKER_02 33:36

I think I got four. Four? Old college one, old friend one, New York one. Couples. Couples league.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Yes. And that uh he won that one. What about you, Sammy?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

Wow, I'm only in one league.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

But hey, you could champion. Yeah, you dominate that one.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

Two and a half, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 33:53

Okay, okay. Settle down. And then as you see, Cole's hat. We actually went to the fantasy focus event this year in New York City. It was a lot of fun. Got to talk some ball.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Um touch Daniel Dopp's beard in person.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Yeah, Field Yates uh smells really good. And when he met me and the boys, he said Emma's my favorite, and I did in fact blush.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Um He said my hair was nicer than his, though.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

So but he also he liked that I was commissioner, so it's I don't know. He liked your power. Yeah, he liked my power, which is fair. I like my power too.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Um, so what we're gonna do to kick off our fantasy episode is we're just gonna each bring three do's or don'ts that we learned from this past fantasy season. We can expand on that. We're just here to talk fantasy broadly before all these teams are set. I mean, we don't even know the rosters, right? Um, yeah. So we dive right in. Yeah, why don't you kick us off? Oh yeah, I've got a good one. I have one I'm very passionate about. And I'm gonna say that I did this in two of my leagues this year. And it won me a league and got me a one seat in the other league where I lost in the championship. And then in the league I didn't do this, I think how many games did I win, Cole? Three total? It was bad. I didn't I didn't win a game until like week 10. It was really bad. So my first fantasy do is do not leave the first four rounds of the draft without two running backs. And I almost want to say, don't leave the first three rounds of the draft with two running backs. I am going double RB all day long. The league I won, I drafted Bichon first, Chase Brown second, and by the end of the year, I was blowing people out. I just think running back is so hard to come by. You know, you can get receivers on the waiver wire. People are way more likely to trade you a receiver than they are a running back. I'm never not anchoring my team again with two RBs to start. I'm gonna say the first four rounds. What do you guys think of that?

SPEAKER_01 35:53

I'm all in on wide receivers this year.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

What? Why?

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Sam, yeah. Sam likes the zero RB. He's been talking about that.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

I've had some bad luck going early with running backs. It can go both ways for sure.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Oh yeah, but I don't know. It's it feels like you're bound to hit on one. And if you have one high-level running back, you're already better than half your league.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I don't disagree with that. I think I think there's a chance to get some real good wide receivers out there. I don't know. I'm honestly I'm a little torn on it still, but I think I would go receiver, receiver.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Who are some of your first round crushes this year, like that you want to get over running back?

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Sammy said, to take words out of his mouth, he would only leave with Gibbs or Bichon. No other running back goes before like a bunch of receivers. Yeah, probably for me. So he's only got two first-round RBs, basically. Like, no other RBs.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

I'm not drafting McCaffrey this year. I do expect Saquon to have a bounce back here, though.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Yeah, but I think you could steal him at the turn of round two.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

I don't know, we're in a 12 man.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Ah. I still think you could. I still think you could.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

What about you, Cole? I know you're a running back guy, too.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Yeah, I tend to agree with you, Emma. I think RB is pretty important. When you're playing the odds in the draft of like injuries, every player is injury prone in fantasy football. Like it's you can't even say prone anymore, because it's just like it's possible. You know what I mean? Like, I do think this was a pretty, looking back at the end of this year, it was a pretty rough first round overall.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Only a couple like Besides like Bijan and Gibbs.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Yeah, McCaffrey, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Um, but only a small few of the top ten actually hit. So like I do. I think stock up early on RB works well.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

Yeah, and I'm down to stock up early, and then I took a few flyers this year, and ETN ended up hitting, and because I had Chase Brown and Bijan, I was able to trade ETN away for like a really good piece that helped me win the championship. So I I like the idea of taking like starting out strong on running back, then wide receiver, wide receiver, all those, and then adding a few flyer RBs to see if they hit. I like that. Um, Sammy, what's your first one? Is it gonna be never draft a wide receiver? I mean never draft a running back.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

Um, it's never draft a particular running back. I like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

That's important to remember. Last year matters. You have to give last year. Don't convince yourself this year.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Oh, yeah. Don't put yourself through pain again.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Yeah. No. And for that reason, I'm avoiding Ken Walker. Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

This is just target this is just targeted at me. I actually think Ken Walker is gonna go pretty late for an RB1 since people are unsure about him.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

I don't know. I I don't love Ken Walker at all. And I think I think an injury prone running back who cracked 20 once in the regular season last year, is not who I want to draft early on my team.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

I agree. I think he's gonna, because of the trade to the Jews, I think he's gonna be overhyped in the narrative, and it's gonna, he's not gonna be worth the value.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

I mean, the soonest I would take him would be the third round, personally.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

I bet he goes before that.

SPEAKER_00 39:23

Yeah, but I think in some drafts he doesn't. I think what's what's tricky about this, I feel like no one is in the middle about Kenneth Walker. Like some people think it's a total bad move, some people think it's a great move. I'm pretty in the middle. I think that he's he wasn't my first choice, but at the same time, he probably is one of the best RB's available. And I do think he's gonna get a lot of touches with Bienemy and try and take the pressure off of Mahomes. I also think the Chiefs haven't ever gotten a loaded box. So I don't expect them to load the box on Walker. I think they're way more afraid of Mahomes than they are of Walker.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

That's totally fair. I do think it's similar to like why people didn't want to draft Saquon this year after his amazing year. Like, this is the longest and best season of Ken Walker's career by a lot. Like, my expectation is that it goes back to the mean. Um, I'm fine with the mean.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

I would love the mean.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

I think it's a good move for the Chiefs, but I think in terms of fantasy, like, he's uh like a don't touch for me. I do agree with Sammy. Just because he's gonna be he was in the news, there's this, like, there's too much noise around him for what his like value is most likely gonna be, which is worse than what it was last year, I think.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

I mean I think that's true. I do I do think that he'll get more goal-line looks than he got last year. We we don't really have any goal line answers. I think we might QB sneak with Justin Fields, I think we might run the ball with Ken Walker and power, use Trey Smith to push that line forward. That's why we paid him. I I think that it could be very little yards, but then like a touchdown upside. Like, I think he'll get more touchdowns in this past year, but maybe have less yards is sort of my take. But I also again think that he's gonna get the advantage of Mahomes being his quarterback and get better looks.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Yeah. He's also a terrible receiving back, which is That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

We got Brashard Smith if we want our third down back.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Oh yeah, it's fine for the Chiefs, but not fine for the biggest. No, I think the Chiefs made a good call in grabbing him. I think fantasy-wise, he is not a lot of upside, but not a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

I think it's like a David Montgomery thing where he just could get like two touchdowns a game.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

And then like, but other than that. But I do.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

I think he's a lot closer to David Montgomery value than to like first or second round RB value.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

I do think David Montgomery will be good this year, but I think But where are you drafting David Montgomery?

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Like eighth or ninth round?

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Like, I do think Oh, please with a running back and a 12 man, probably fifth or sixth is where he'll fall. In realistically.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

You think? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

Knowing our league. R league running backs go fast.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

Yeah, that feels like a lot for David Montgomery. How old is the Montgomery now?

SPEAKER_00 41:56

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

But I think where do you get traded to? He's in Houston, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Houston.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

Oh yeah, no. He's RB2 in Houston. He's going eight, nine, ten.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Yeah, he's behind Woody More.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

Then I love him as an RB2 because I think it's gonna be a one-two punch. But as for Walker, he's not someone I'm trying to draft, but he's not someone I'm gonna avoid if value's there. Like if he's there in the third or the fourth round, that feels like a no-brainer to me, but I'm not taking him as my first or second pick. So I'm kind of with you, Sam. Alright, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Coley, up to you. Alrighty. Start with a little bonus one since both of you have done this before. Don't trade Cole, your best receiver, and hand him a championship on a silver platter. If you're thinking about it. If you're even considering it my best receiver for somebody.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

Nico Collins was not my best receiver.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

It is about to be irrelevant. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

Nico Collins was not my best receiver. I had Amon Ra.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Okay, yeah. Second best. Top two starting receivers.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

But that this is the league. I went wide receiver, wide receiver, because I was like, how can I say no to Nico and Amon Ra? And then I couldn't win any games because they both were so boom bust and I didn't have a running back. So you're right, but I also I'm it's I I'm not gonna put myself in that situation. I'm not gonna victimize myself by not drafting a running back first and second.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

I mean, I enjoyed it a lot. If you do just change your mind trade me your best receiver.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

Cole won that league, Sam, that I traded Nico Collins in for true.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Oh, he did the same thing to me once. I fleeced, Sammy. Greatest trade in the history of our league, honestly. Greatest trade in the history of fantasy football. Maybe. Alright, that was just a joke one. I'll get to my real one. This year, I am steering clear of rookie running backs. They're always sexy. Jeremiah Love. Oh no, thank you. I am out on our rookie backs are too hard to predict. Even Genty, Hampton, Henderson went way too early. Like, no, thank you. It's just not worth it. There's a better guy out there. There, right?

SPEAKER_00 44:00

I avoided Genty in all drafts last year because I thought the schedule was too hard for a rookie running back, and I was right.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

I yeah, irrelevant from situation or schedule. Like it's just you don't know what the production is gonna be. It's hard to contribute at like a value of an RB1 your rookie season. I think teams try to steer clear of it a little bit, giving them that much production.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

Like my caveat is I would take a late round one as a flyer, as a as a chance.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Oh, oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah, don't read it. Past seventh round, do whatever you want. Yeah, I'm like with one of your starting players. I do not want any of my starters to be rookie running backs this year. Which is honestly a first for me. I'm usually pretty in on them.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

Are you with him, Sammy?

SPEAKER_01 44:44

Um Yeah, more or less. I think you're better off taking, you know, a seventh or eighth round rookie running back after you've maybe even farther than that, after you filled out most of your starters that you can stash and hope that they either pick up after an injury or scene, but I don't think there's a lot of value in drafting a rookie running back as your RB1 or two.

SPEAKER_00 45:13

I have a scenario for you guys. Uh say you're in a 12-man league, you got the 10th pick. By the way, the board falls, you take a wide receiver with your first pick, just like all the top running backs are gone. Maybe you get like an Amin Raw, Justin Jefferson, something like that. So then the turn happens and you're looking at the board, and the value and the running backs are going fast, and you already have a wide receiver, and Jeremiah Love is staring at you as your second pick right after the turn. So you have to wait a while for a pick again. Do you draft him?

SPEAKER_02 45:45

I guess my question for you would be like would you rather Derek Henry on your team or Jeremiah Love?

SPEAKER_00 45:50

I uh in this scenario, I think Derek Henry's gone.

SPEAKER_02 45:53

Really? He was picked like 18th-ish. His ADP last season was like 18th-ish.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

He finished really strong last season, which makes people draft him early.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

I don't really have that memory, honestly. But maybe you're right. I feel like Henry's more of like a 15-ish guy. No, no catching upside, like old. But but with that said, I'd rather Derek Henry this year. Oh, me too.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

I do think with Jeremiah Love, though, you're getting Robert Salah. He comes from Kyle Shanahan. What does Kyle Shanahan do? He runs the ball with a Bell Cal running back. There's a I think Jeremiah Love has upside this year, but I'm not taking him early.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

It was the same narrative with Ashton Genty to Pete Carroll. It was like Marshawn Lynch, like, this is classic Pete Carroll. It did not happen. He's a rookie. Like, no. I'd rather somebody I know is just like, I can count on 10 points at least.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

And that's my scenario of him going to the Titans, but I don't know if that's where he's going, but Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

So you're just you're out on love.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

I'm out on rookie running backs. I'm not doing it to myself.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

He's the only one that's gonna go high. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

So yes, I'm out on love.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Okay. That's fair. Um, okay. Here's my second one. Uh, tight ends. I'm I've got a lot of do not. Do not, Emma. Draft a tight end like early. Like, don't do it. I was all in on Hawkinson or Laporta this year, and both of them were not what I wanted, especially at the beginning of the season. Hawkinson was really a bust. I thought he was gonna be a safety blanket for JJ McCarthy who can't throw, but it turns out he can't even throw enough to like get to his tight end, which means you really can't throw. Yeah. So I my thing with tight ends, I don't know if I'm drafting one. I want to say before the seventh round, I just think there's so many guys.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

I thought you were gonna say like top 100.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

I mean, maybe even later than that. If someone falls to me again, that's great value. All these rules go out the window if like a great player falls to you at the fourth or fifth round.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

I mean, there'll be good tight ends on the board in round seven, I think. Well, then I'm waiting even longer.

SPEAKER_00 47:56

I'm not drafting one of these big name guys. Brock Bowers, I I love him. George Bulldog, he gets hurt all the time. Um they're just a little unreliable. And we've seen a pattern now of rookie tight ends going in like the 12th, 13th round and then being the number one tight end. So I'm I'm out on planning to draft a tight end. Like, I'll be planning my draft around anything but that.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

I'm with you. Going everything going yeah, RB and wide receiver tenfold before tight end this year.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

I'm gonna draft a quarterback before I draft tight end, also.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Yeah, I like that too.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

What about you, Sammy?

SPEAKER_01 48:31

I have an interesting history with tight ends. Okay. I've now had two seasons where I've played for the majority of the season double tight end. Not in a row, not in a row, but two seasons.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

The first season I did that, I won the chip. The second season I did that was this past year, and I barely made the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Well, I I like what you're saying. I mean, I this year I had Fannon and Kittle. I picked up Fannon. I played most. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

Which isn't what you were saying. But what you were saying is that I would then scoop up a rookie tight end late on waivers or on waivers or late in the draft as a bench roll, and then they'd pop off and I'd be forced to play a top three tight end and another top three tight end, or guess which one's gonna go off each week. So I ended up with Mark Andrews and Sam Laporta when I won. That was when I won't. Oh, oh, so a while ago.

SPEAKER_00 49:31

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

Yes, years ago. And then I ended up with Trey McBride and Tyler Warren this past year.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

See, that's a no-brainer. That's just luck.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Yes, that was luck, and also me trying to screw someone in the draft. But that's an aside. Um it just when a tight end is clicking, it feels so good. It's like a luxury 15 plus points that most people aren't getting that week. But it's just really It's a gamble. Like you said, it's a gamble, and I think you're better off waiting for a later round and grabbing someone young or waiting for the first week or two of waivers on whoever looks good. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

It can be the single biggest advantage in fantasy if you have like the tight end of the season, but it does feel like that it is just a crapshoot. That guy might be in round 14 or he might be in round one. Like, literally, like in the Kelsey days, you know what I mean? It was a big advantage to reach on Kelsey, have him, or the Gronk days was like if you had Gronk on like a good, healthy season, it was just like Or low-key, even like But I agree, there's too much, like, we don't know.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Uh Bowers, I don't think, is that guy health-wise, and like Well, yeah, my the the situation I fell into this year with two tight ends, I didn't draft any of them. I drafted Hawkinson, was really in on him with McCarthy because big body target, and then I, like I mentioned earlier, I had picked up ETN um very late. I had two running backs already, so I flipped ETN for Kittle when Kittle was hurt and picked up Fannon on waivers, and then by the time Kittle came back, Fannon was good. So I didn't draft any of these tight ends, but all of a sudden they're both putting 20 points a week, so I'm playing them both, and it ended up setting me apart. But I did that outside of the draft. I just think it's better to target tight end outside of your main draft.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Once you see it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:24

So make some moves, draft a flyer, pay on waivers. We do money for our waivers, so. Um, what do you got, Sammy?

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Alright, for my second, this is a uh sort of a do, sort of a don't.

SPEAKER_00 51:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

Don't draft a quarterback early unless it's Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_00 51:45

What about Drake May? Just Josh Allen. What about Lamar?

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Josh Allen. Definitely not Lamar. Josh Allen is the only quarterback I would take in the top 100.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

That's on my list. I'm taking no quarterbacks in the top 100 unless it's Josh Allen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

I I like I've never drafted Josh Allen. I just can't. I hate the Bills so much. I'm not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

I get that emotionalized, but he is the best fantasy quarterback. He is the most reliable, he will play for he's broken in the game.

SPEAKER_00 52:17

Well, yeah, he's a one-man show.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

Like, I mean, they went, there were four of them. It was it was Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels. If you took anybody but Josh Allen, you missed the playoffs with the 30. Like, basically, like it's it's that big of a gap.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

I think Drake May is gonna go really early.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Exactly. That's the thing. Like, I took Drake May in almost every league last season except for the one I took Josh Allen in. But it was amazing because it was a hundred.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Yeah, I took Drake.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

I'm not that interested in Drake May at his actual ADP value. Like, we were ahead of the game last year, but I do think that's just a lot scarier because AJ Brown can change that. AJ Brown is Drake.

SPEAKER_00 52:53

See, I think I even you can have the best receiver, and it is like, if you're not running as a quarterback, like, do I really want you in fantasy? Unless it's like Joe Burrow. Like, I feel like he's the exception. Like, but that's why I like Drake.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

Drake May runs. His legs are amazing.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

That's why I like Drake, because he he runs. Like to me, AJ Brown has nothing to do with that.

SPEAKER_02 53:13

I guess it depends if the ADP does have a gap between them, but if it's like the same cluster and Drake May is in that cluster with Josh Allen, like, if I don't get Josh Allen, I think I'm avoiding that first cluster of quarterbacks altogether.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

Yeah, I think I'm a little different here. I like a mid. I I've had success with like either a mid or a flyer. Like, I'm kind of interested in Joe Burrow this year because I think that he's gonna have to throw five touchdowns a game to compete. So I I like Joe there.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:43

Um I I really like Kyler on the Vikings just because I think O'Connor will use his legs, and I expect him to go later. But like again, it's it's these like mid to late round guys. I'm never drafting Josh Allen. I'm too far into Chiefs Kingdom. I'm not drafting Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_02 53:59

Totally.

SPEAKER_00 54:00

But I hear what you're saying. Quarterback is honestly the the hardest position to figure out in fantasy.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Yeah. There's too many. If you're in a 10-man, there are too many good quarterbacks to take. Like, I want a backup running back on my bench and a backup receiver on my bench with my whole roster full before I take a quarterback. If I'm in a 10-man and I didn't get Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

12-man is different. Like, I'm run out of starters, like guaranteed starters, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

Yeah, I mostly play 12, so I look at it through that lens. Um, and it is harder to find your players. You have to ri I feel like 12-man leagues really benefit people who know ball and know the rosters.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

But even then, there's gonna be guys that are on the waivers that are super serviceable and will have 30-point weeks like on the reg.

SPEAKER_00 54:47

Like I like leaving the draft with a late quarterback who I took a chance on. I don't I I don't think I I've drafted quarterbacks in like the fourth to the fifth round before, but yeah, I don't know. I really don't have answers on quarterback because it I feel like it's the hardest one to nail down.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

Yeah. Alright, that brings me to this. Going off my first one. Here are the RBs I am most interested in.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

And I'm taking notes for our draft so I can snipe you.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

I think your best window at RB, and including what I expect their ADP to be, is gonna be year two. Year two running backs are where you can hit your like gold in this draft, I think. I just think like so many of them, like the conversations we had about all these guys, now You're gonna say Hampton. Yeah, Hampton, Genty, Henderson. Definitely. I think they'll all be. Genty might be in the first round, but the other two are outside the first round, and I think like I like them more than some potential guys who'll be in the.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

I'm not interested in Henderson. I think Ramondre, and he's a homophobe, but Ramondre is just like off-the-field stuff aside. No, but I think Ramondre's gonna be your RB1, or it's just gonna be a true split.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

Yeah. I think Trayvon will have enough upside this year. He's gonna get it was trending that way. He's so much more explosive.

SPEAKER_00 56:09

But Frabel likes Mondre.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Frabel does like Mondre, but I do think it's gonna be somewhat what you saw with Gibbs in Montgomery, where that's what it was. It was like Gibbs isn't serviceable because they love Montgomery, and then all of a sudden this past year was like, oh, Montgomery like eight touches a game max, and like I think that'll happen naturally if Trevion keeps producing. And I think you can get I think people are scared of that. So I think you can almost get him viewed as like the RB2 on the Patriots, but get him, get him early. We'll see. I just think that's the sweet spot of like third, fourth round. Any of those three over like Saquon, Derek Henry, these older guys who are just I mean, I think Gibbs and Bichon are in a tier of their own.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

I want one of them.

SPEAKER_02 56:50

Yes. Yes, I agree. But that's first or second pick. You're not getting them.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

I think JSN is gonna I think JSN or Puka is gonna go before them.

SPEAKER_02 57:01

I don't.

SPEAKER_00 57:02

Top five. They're a top five pick.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

I think ADP is B.2 on ESPN by the time drafts happen. Yeah, I think Puka's Puka's number one right now. They always say the receiver, and then I think people get cold feet and they realize like I need to leave my this round with the Naruto.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

In our league, a running back will go first. In my family league, a wide receiver will go first. Like, you gotta be your league.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

It is league dependent.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't hate that. I I'm I'm not in on Genty at all. I think the schedule's too hard. I I draft running backs off of schedule more than any other position because of the defen. Like, just like if you can't get gaps in that defense or the quarterback has to throw because you're so far behind, I draft running backs based on schedule more than any other position. So that's why I'm out on Genty, because I don't think their team is good enough with the schedule they're going to have.

SPEAKER_02 57:56

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I think the same, like you don't think that for Ken Walker. You're not worried about the schedule for Ken Walker, but like it's a pretty similar schedule, right?

SPEAKER_00 58:05

Yeah, but I but I think Mahomes is a better quarterback than Fernando Mendoza, so I think the look.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Well, it's Kirk Cousins he's got, not Mendoza.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

I think Mahomes is also better than Kirk Cousins. I feel pretty comfortable saying that.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

I do too, but that doesn't. I mean, like, Ken Walker's not catching passes, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 58:19

Like But it's how the defense plays you. Like, if you have Mahomes or Josh or Joe Burrow, the defense is gonna play two, three, four high on you. They're not gonna stack the box. That's why I like Chase Brown so much.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Um I guess that's true, but historically we haven't seen the Chiefs like Mahomes, the threat of Mahomes has never opened up the run game for the Chiefs. You just think Ken Walker's that different.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

No, I I I also said earlier that I wasn't drafting Kent Walker high.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

Yeah, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

I I think I do think he will be better than Genty.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

You got okay, you so that's it, that's interesting. You got Walker over Genty.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

But maybe not fantasy. Like, I think Walker.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

Fantasy. Who are you taking first?

SPEAKER_00 58:57

Neither. I'm not taking the only AFC West running back I've got to.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

What if it's your third pick? They're both on the board.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

Genty won't be there.

SPEAKER_02 59:04

Yeah, but what if? Like that's the thing. ADP does matter. What if they fall?

SPEAKER_00 59:08

Ken Walker, go get your guy.

SPEAKER_02 59:09

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 59:11

Go get your guy. I also think the only AFC West running back I'm even thinking about is Hampton. Because John Harbaugh is a running coach. And yeah, and he's a better pass catcher than Genty and Walker.

SPEAKER_02 59:25

You got two all-pro linemen coming back, too. Like, yeah, that line might look different. And also I like a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

I think people underestimate the interior of the Chiefs line. I and I think part and I really put the running failures more on the coaching than I do on the line. Creed and Trey Smith are two of the best interior linemen in the league. I mean, Creed is unanimously considered the best center. So I I think that we can run the ball really well. We just I've never. Yeah, we just No, but we run the ball six times a game. That's not how you get into a running game. You have to get into a pattern with running. Nobody can run the ball if you hand it off only six times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

So I guess that's the question. Like, do you you think this year will look somewhat like the of new version of the Chiefs we've never seen, where like the run game is prioritized.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:13

I'm gonna say a new old. I think that B enemy's gonna do put Mahomes under center, run the ball under center, um, do some boots and some deep shots off of a play action. Like, I think it's gonna be a lot of the old Bienemy deep field deep down the field, using the sides of the field, really getting Mahomes out of the pocket, mixed in with a better run game. So I I say like a little bit of both.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

Yeah, I mean if that is the case, that's the thing. Ken Walker is somewhat sexy. Like, man, as a third round pick. The Chiefs can be good, like a actual star running back on that team we've never seen before. Could be like the best fantasy running back I can.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:49

Well, this is the the question you asked me wasn't really fair. I'm not taking Genty with my first round pick, which is probably where he'll go, but I'm but I will take Ken Walker with my third round pick.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:00

So like where their ADP's at, I like Walker a lot more than Genty.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

Yeah. But you would just rather if they were both on the board, you would take Genty. If they were both on the board in run one, you wouldn't you had to take one of them, you would take Genty.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

No, I hate the Raiders so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

Yeah, so you're lying to yourself. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

But I wouldn't take Walker either there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

That's fair.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

Like, I think that this is too narrow of a question.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:22

But so yeah, ADP does not matter for you for Genty. You're just not taking them.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:25

Yeah, I hate the Raiders, and I think their schedule's too hard for a weak offense. I expect the Chiefs' offense this year had really good flashes, and I think our offense got better with Bienemy. So because of that, I expect our offense to maybe be the best facet of the team, which means that I think they can overcome some of the schedule things that maybe the Raiders' offense can't. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, um, I I think I trust Mahomes a little more than Kirko Chains and uh Fernandi Mendoza. Um okay, it's my turn. So actually, this is a great lead way. Um my final point is do go get your guys. This is something Cole and I have talked about a lot. Go get your guys. Like, I love Lad McConkie, and I, even though with his failings, I still went all in on him this year, had him in two leagues, was the one seed in one, won the championship in one. Go get your guys. I love Ladd. Um, I love Chase Brown. I went and got Chase Brown in multiple leagues. Go get your guy. Um, and with that, like, if you're in multiple leagues, I really believe let yourself have some crossover so you're enjoying the watching experience more. Like, if I've been in situations where my uncle loves the Chiefs, he had Mahomes and Rashi, and then I had Mahomes and Rashi in another league, and I'm like cheering against them, but cheering for them. Like, do your crossover, reach on guys, get your guys, make the watching experience better for yourself so that you have more crossover on your team and you're cheering for your guys. That doesn't even mean your team, just guys you like.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

Yeah. I'm with that. Yeah. Me too. Go get your guys. That's that's a great you're sitting around a table. That's a great bit. You can do that on everybody's pick after they pick. Oh, go get your guy. Yeah. People love that. That's the classic fantasy thing to say. I do love it. I mean, but every year, like, there's a moment when you can make that choice to like do the thing you weren't planning on, go against your gut, like.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

I'm I'm all for it. I think I the team I won with is a team of guys I all really like. Um and I enjoy the football experience more when I have multiple players on multiple teams. So I was in a position where like Cole and I had a bunch of crossover, and we were like, we knew that one of us was gonna win one league and one was gonna win the other, and we were playing each other in two different leagues at once, and we had essentially mixed match teams. Like, we knew that we would draw. Um, my uncle loves the Chiefs, he had my homes, and like I had Mahomes in another league. It's just go get as much crossover as you can, make your Sundays better.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:55

Yeah, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:57

Sammy?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:59

Um for my last point, I am all in on Tet. I think Tet McMillan is gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:04

I know you are.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:05

I think he's gonna be a top three receiver next year. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:10

I like Tet too. I I'm gonna put him at top ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

Okay. I could see, I could see top ten. It's crowded. I think conservatively, in my opinion, top five, and I would say realistically top three. So you'll take him with your second pick. I would take him with my second pick. Yeah. I would reach three to four picks on him. I mean, he'll probably go round two. He had a good year. Three to four picks.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:35

Yo, if you if you're on the end. Three to four picks is not a reach in my mind. Like, that's ADP. Like, go get your guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:45

It kind of expands as the the rounds get later.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:47

Yeah. Yeah. I I think the Panthers will be bad, but I think Tet is a shining star in them, and I'm with you that he's gonna be top ten. Maybe not top five, though. That's my take.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

Yeah. I I don't know. He just go get your guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:00

Go get your guy, Sam. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:01

Yeah. Just watching him with the pick.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

Even with your first pick. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:05

Yeah. No, that's not happening. But I had him on my team last year, and just watching him, I was like. He just passed the eye test so well. I was like, this guy is like primed for the game.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Why not take him with your first? It's a lot of um another thing to think about is sometimes guys on these high-powered offenses. Too many mouths. Too many mouths, and you're playing with a lead the whole game, and like there is something to be said about like the Panthers are good enough that they're kind of in every game and they're probably gonna be losing a lot. You want someone fighting for the wild card?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

The volume of tech is massive. Yes. You want someone fighting for the wildcard spot.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:44

I love his size, I love his physicality. I I think he's a great I gotta be.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:49

Down ten in the fourth, you're getting a little cushion defense, but just like you're eating over the middle.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

Yeah, and his jump ball skills are just like his contested catch jump ball skills are unbelievable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

Yeah. What about you, Cole? Final one.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

So I got it's kind of a twofer. One, I'll just second what we have been saying. We're like, ADP is semi-irrelevant if you know what you're doing. Like if you are a casual fantasy player, follow ADP. ADP is your Bible. Yes. If you're not, like, I remember last year in Boys League, where I was the one seed, so I did have an incredible draft. My one mistake cost me the championship. But it was taking Tyreek at 25, or no, at 35. He fell like 10 plus scenarios. He was not on my draft board, he was not in my plan, but I was like, man, the value here, I took my full two minutes on the clock and I ended up going with Tyreek and going off of script. And like, it's not it's it just wasn't. I knew it was bad, and it was bad. Like, I think ignore ADP.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

Sometimes guys fall for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

Yeah, don't fall for the the fall, literally. Like, I do think that is don't trick yourself on draft day. If they're falling, there's a reason. Like, it's okay to take a guy who's 15 spots farther up the board if you believe in him. Um then my final actual one, which this is new for me. I am usually super anti this. Never again. Kickers win championships in Tennessee football. Yes. You should leave it. You should be the first person. You should be the first person to take a kicker.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:28

Grace drafts Brandon Aubrey in the seventh round.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:31

And Grace wins championships. Grace is the biggest reason I'm changing my mind, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

I had Aubrey last year, and my team wasn't great. It was okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

That's probably not Aubrey's fault.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

Aubrey was probably the reason I won over 50% of my game.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:47

I mean, why not draft Aubrey before your flex? He's gonna put up 15 a game. Your flex will sometimes do five.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:54

Kicking is changing, and they are contributors.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:57

And they're kicking 60 yarders, which is the same as a touchdown.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

Often by week eight, your flex is projected around 12 points. 18 to five. I would say you want double digits, but like 10 to 14 is your flex. You can get kickers that'll hit that on a weekly basis if you go early. And like I do think people understand their value is going up. I think this will be like the earliest for like long-term players who've been playing for 15 years. This will be the earliest we've ever seen kickers.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:26

Okay, Grace, do you hear that? You're gonna have to take a kicker in like the sixth round. You're gonna have to snipe coal on Brandon Aubrey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

I mean, there's a few. There's like three kickers I'd probably be happy with.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:36

Oh, I like Fairbit. You know I love him.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:38

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:39

And I and I'll go with Young Way Ku. Bro, he misses all kinds of.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:44

I like Cam Little.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

Cam Little is pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:47

I love Cam Little, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:48

No, yeah, I'm with you. I I like that. Um this has been a great uh first fantasy episode. We feel I feel like we set a good skeleton out there. Um, absolutely. Sam, thanks for joining us for our first ever fantasy football episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:02

Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

Oh yes, sir. And let's uh let's see how many championships this trio can win this upcoming season. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:10

Won't be zero.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:11

It will not be zero, that's for sure. I would put the if it's 1.5, are you taking the over or the under? Over. I'll take the over.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:18

Oh, easy. I might take the over. I should win one out of four.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:22

Oh, I we we made money on fantasy last year. So that's that's the goal every year.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:27

I'm in one league and I should have been.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:29

Oh, yes, sir. Um thanks for joining us, Sammy. Um to all our watchers and listeners like, rate, subscribe, and uh drop your fantasy questions. Uh peace out. Peace.