Related AF
It started as two sisters talking out loud on the gym treadmills.
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Alright, you ready?
Kristin:So, wait, well, I mean, are we introducing what we're doing or are we just gonna just just jump right in? Just questions right off the.
Kelly:Oh, I was just gonna jump r ight in for that scene. Okay.
Kristin:[How I how I roll.] You have half, well, half the questions. I don't know what I'm doing. So what are you just gonna like randomly pull?
Kelly:I was just gonna go right from the top because I don't know what they are.
Kristin:Okay, that's fine.
Kelly:I go first. Okay. What is something you know is toxic but still kind of works for you?
Kristin:Something that I do that's toxic that still kind of works for me.
Kelly:That you know is toxic is the question, but you can change it however you want.
Kristin:I don't know. Do I I don't know if I do toxic things. I mean, I do. I do.
Kelly:I don't know how to even respond to that.
Kristin:Um well okay. I would say maybe when I have a tendency to get petty when I get mad.
Kelly:But you think that works for you? [I don't think it works for me then.] Yeah, I don't think so either. [That's what I mean. It's like I don't know.] So you don't think you you think toxic behavior should probably be worked on, is what I'm hearing.
Kristin:Yeah, I don't think I don't think I do any okay, yeah, okay, that's a better reframe of what I meant. I don't think I do anything toxic that I would say is good.
Kelly:Like works for you.
Kristin:No, it's all traits that I wish I didn't do.
Kelly:Yeah, I feel like I feel the same way.
Kristin:I d yeah, I don't I don't I I don't want to keep the toxicity in my like I I feel like I don't know who would believe in that kind of sad like like like wouldn't you just be perpetuating toxic behaviors? Okay. What is a skill or profession you think you could fake convincingly? Something you're not qualified to do. Does the result have to it's your world, we're just living it. You can do anything you want, like whatever you think you could you what what you honestly think you could do convincingly. So like I guess yes, if you were like surgeon, you would have to perform the surge. But I think you would have to perform the surgery So I can't kill somebody. No, I think that would negate being a you'd be amazing. That wouldn't be convincing, I guess. Yeah. What could I do convincingly? I could convincingly I think I could convincingly be a surgeon. I think that I could be in the room and absorb enough to be able to convincingly perform a minor surgery on like an ingrown toenail remote removal? No, no, like oh open them up. You know, like I'm not gonna do I'm gonna do like open heart surgery, but I think that I could like remove an appendix. Do you know where the appendix is? Like if I showed you just like an anatomy chart, you'd be able to. You're not removing my appendix. That's not nearly close enough. I'm I'm hoping that they're marked out, is what I'm hoping. Oh goodness. You know what I could you know what I could do?
Kelly:You know what I could do? I could I could liposuck the shit out of someone because aesthetically, like I know I would be like I it's almost like sculpture in my mind. I've never done it, I've never had it done, but I imagine I could liposuck somebody. I think I could convincingly be a surgeon, minor surgery.
Kristin:Fair enough.
Kelly:Minor. No, no brain surgery, no heart surgery.
Kristin:So like plastic surgeon or just minor surgeries.
Kelly:Minor.
Kristin:Okay, there's a threshold.
Kelly:I think liposucking is different than like giving somebody a facelift.
Kristin:Like, okay, yeah, a little harder.
Kelly:I think I could remove appendix before I could give a facelift.
Kristin:Okay.
Kelly:Yeah, but I am pretty sure I could do it. What is something you judge people for silently?
Kristin:Okay, I do, and it's really bad because I do it myself. Dirty shoes.
Kelly:Dirty shoes are.
Kristin:Yeah, your shoes are dirty, like your tennis shoes are dirty.
Kelly:I don't know if I've ever even noticed someone's dirty shoes.
Kristin:But in my defense, I live on a dirt road. So like my shoes are dirty. I I don't know. I like it like walking around the gym. If I see like
Kelly:You notice people's shoes?
Kristin:Yeah. If I see like a dude in dirty tennis shoes, I'm like, no, bro. Like that, or like don't wear white ones. Buy black ones. I have black tennis shoes. So I don't know. That dirty like shoes are something I look at, and if they're dirty, I'm like, no. Oh, it's my turn.
Kelly:Your turn.
Kristin:What is something you'd be embarrassed if people knew you were really good at?
Kelly:I am like amazing at cleaning toilets. Like I will get down on my hands and knees and clean the shit out of a toilet, like all around it, like underneath. Like I pop up all the little thingies on the seat. Like I I am like my toilets, what after they're clean, they are fucking clean. Fucking clean. And you would not, you would it's it's embarrassing how close I get to the toilet in order to clean it. And I have no regard for like it. I'm like, I will just take a shower after. Like that's it's fine.
Kristin:Well, I mean it's your toilet. Yeah, but I mean it's not like people don't come over here and yeah, but I'm it's not like you're eating lunch off of it. No, clean.
Kelly:But like I can I can clean a toilet. Okay. What is something you understand about me that would sound insane to explain? Am I gonna like this answer? Probably if it's insane.
Kristin:Can it be like something you've done instead of like something that's about you?
Kelly:I don't care, yeah.
Kristin:Because I don't feel like either one of us are like so left field out there that like it would be hard to explain any of our actions. But you did buy a vase in the shape of a butt, and you and you shipped it from Australia to Arizona.
Kelly:I have it. I have two. I have one giant one that I didn't know that was that basis. It's almost like like life-size butt size, and then I have the small one that makes way more sense.
Kristin:And and like it's not even really the butt that makes it hard to explain. It's the shipping it from Australia, I think, that that really kind of takes the cake.
Kelly:What is your most delusional but harmless belief?
Kristin:It's gotta be hard because I mean you'd have to be like super self-aware to like even understand that it's delusional. You know? [You're not you don't think you're self-aware enough.] No, I definitely think I am. I just don't think I have any delusions.
Kelly:You've answered the question.
Kristin:Oh, that I'm not delusional. That's my most delusional belief. Is that I'm not delusional. [Yes.] Well, then you tell me what am I delusional about? About a belief? Well, like I live in like I I think we're I think we're both pretty good realists about the world that we live in and like what's around us. And like I I do I do genuinely think that like well while I am not saying that like everything I'm I'm not super literal about everything or super, you know, down to earth about everything. I don't I don't know if delusion is really uh a strong signal for us.
Kelly:And I don't know if belief I I feel like belief requires a little delulu.
Kristin:Yeah, of course.
Kelly:Like you have to, it's believe you're taking a leap. You're it's faith. You're taking a leap of faith, so that inherently means you're not necessarily, it's not all proven out. Yeah.
Kristin:So well, and I mean I think there's things I believe in, but I don't think to a delusional degree. No, though, you know. Like I'm I'm willing to have rational discussions about anything. Oh, I got one out. Can I answer it? Yeah. I believe Santa's real. Like Santa Claus in the North Pole. Yeah. With the reindeer. Yeah. And little elves. Yeah. Do you believe the elves are real? No, I don't know.
Kelly:But Santa, what do you mean? I don't know. You got it all. Santa brought me that ornament, the the Hallmark ornament that I wanted that one year, that was the little girl feeding the horse the candy cane, and I wanted it, and I didn't get it. And and then the next year, and Hallmark changes their ornaments every year, so it was not available. The next year, it was on the tree, and nobody knew how it got there. And it was on this piece of thread, the white thread, and I know this because it still goes on the tree with the piece of white thread, and then I lost it for years, and then it weirdly showed up in like a random box, and I still have it today, and I put it on the tree with that same piece of thread because it's the ornament that Santa gave me. Just saying Santa's real.
Kristin:Santa is Kelly's stalker.
Kelly:No, Santa's a good man. Wait, but he gave you the same ornament twice. No, he didn't give me, no, it's the same ornament. He just gave it back. He didn't give me the same ornament twice. He gave it back to me. It's got the same string on it and everything. Mom dad didn't know where it came from. I wonder if he got mad at you when you lost it. No, because you people lose things when they grow up.
Kristin:Okay. Well, I don't, I, I, I don't believe Santa is real. I wish I did. [Santa's mad at you now.] I wish I did. Santa's been mad at me for a couple years. I haven't got any good presents for a while. Uh go ahead. Okay. Um, I like that one. What is a smell you love that would concern other people?
Kelly:Concern other people. Lance.
Kristin:Yeah, that was concerning. He was in in in my old explaining Lance was.
Kelly:Yeah, my old weimaraner Lance, who is essentially a naked dog, his whole belly was naked. He didn't ever smell like dog. He smelled like like like sweat. I don't know. But because he was like my sole dog, and yeah, I'm saying that in front of Beef and Wellington. I just I didn't love the way he smelled, but it was comforting. Okay, he's he was ranked, he was ranked, he was a rank, he could get ranked, and then he washed him, and it didn't take long for him to go right back to where he was not pleasant to to cuddle with, but I cuddled with him anyway. He could clear it, he smelled like warm garbage. He did smell like warm garbage, warm city garbage from like last week. Yeah, no, it's been out a while. Like the flies, he looked like pig pen with the flies around his head. That's Lancy. What is something you're choosing not to worry about anymore? Oh, this is a good one for you.
Kristin:It's like almost like they you you divided them up. I didn't though. I just I just picked half. But I feel like it's helped them. Um what's something I'm choosing not to worry about anymore? Um, I would say that I am choosing not to care about how other people perceive like I like what I say or or how how I show up. Cause like I I don't know, I guess I know myself enough to like I know what my intent is. Like I used to like replay things over in my head, like over and over and over, like, oh my god, I said it like this, and like do you think this person thinks that? Do you think this person thinks and it's like honestly, no, they don't. Like no one's thinking that hard about you, you know? Like, but I don't think that's something that you realize when you're younger. Or ever, maybe sometimes ever, people don't realize that. But like, I don't think people think about me that hard. So, like, why would I think about other people that hard?
Kelly:Yeah. You know? Also, I think people enjoy you more when you just show up as yourself.
Kristin:Yes. I I well, I definitely think you're genuinely more enjoyable. My my turn Oh, for me to ask you a question. What is a conspiracy theory you don't believe, but also don't fully dismiss?
Kelly:Well, I full on believe that we did not land on the moon. Like answer.
Kristin:Ever or just the first time?
Kelly:No, no, just the first time. I fully, fully don't believe that. Fully don't. But that I believe, but also think that is I'm I Well, you don't think it's a stretch.
Kristin:Like you don't maybe you don't necessarily believe it's true, but you don't think it's a stretch. Like if you learned it was true, that wouldn't surprise you either.
Kelly:Oh, if if we actually did land on the moon, that wouldn't surprise me, but I fully don't believe that we did. I've watched the Mythbusters, I've thought about it like a lot. You don't think that the president called the moon and spoke to? No, I really don't. I really don't believe, I like really don't believe it.
Kristin:I really don't you don't believe that they got that big huge rover in that little bit?
Kelly:I you know, I've talked about this with dad, and maybe the reason that I don't believe it is because dad has also convinced me that my logic is correct. But I don't think how did if there's no I'm not gonna explain the science because I don't understand science enough to actually I only understand logic, but logically, like I can't I can't make it work in my head.
Kristin:[It it just doesn't] so why do you think we faked it though?
Kelly:The space race. Yeah, I know nothing about the space race, but I know enough to say the space race.
Kristin:So we could one up the Russians.
Kelly:Sure. Whoever we were racing, we won. You know what is a good show though? That um that moon show. [The moon show.] The moon show on Apple all the [the Apple Moon show.] The Apple Moon Show.
Kristin:It is actually a good show.
Kelly:Man on the moon, no mankind, no. I don't know, moon man. I don't know, whatever it is.
Kristin:You could have been right with any of the things.
Kelly:What is it? For All Mankind. That is a good show. That's a good show. That's a good show. I hope they continue it because it was a good show. What is your most I'll deal with it later habit? It's almost all of them. I think that's your habit. Sorry, I answered for you. Go ahead.
Kristin:You're right though. Procrastination is I will deal, I will deal with it all later. But you know, I do have to say though, I do deal with it. It's not like I don't deal with it. I do deal with things, just maybe not in the timeline that people would like me to do with it.
Kelly:There's some stuff out there that you're still on the timeline.
Kristin:When? Like what? There there is lots of things that I have to do. [That you haven't done,] but there's also a lot of things that I have eventually gotten around to doing.
Kelly:Because humans naturally do lots of things, so yeah.
Kristin:I also do lots of things. That is me. I'll get two things done, and then we'll just wait for it to come around again, and then I'll get another two things done. Um, what is something you're irrationally convinced you'd be amazing at?
Kelly:Surgery. I would be the best surgeon. [No, you wouldn't.] I would. I would be great at it. I would be a great surgeon. [You do not have the patience] shit out of people. I could cut them up. [Put them back together,] buy things in nuts. Like, I would be really good at like messing around with the insides of people. I know that fact. Fact. That's a fact.
Kristin:I don't wait, but I don't think you could say as a fact that they would make it out of the surgery okay.
Kelly:But I'd be I they'd look beautiful on the inside once I was done. All the plumbing would be in order, it would be great.
Kristin:Oh my god, everybody would be dead. You would kill them all.
Kelly:They would look great.
Kristin:That's so serial killer.
Kelly:I'm not trying to kill people. No, it's not serial killer. I think that the majority of them would come out just fine.
Kristin:Not if you rearrange their insides. God, put it that way for a reason. [They'd be fixed.] Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
Kelly:What is something you're currently overthinking for sport? The for sport thing is I think important here.
Kristin:Buying a new house.
Kelly:That's just sport.
Kristin:Oh, what does for sport mean? [It means for funsies.] I mean, like, I'm overthinking it for funsies. I mean, like, the answer is buy a new house, and I'm just like, you know what, I'd rather think about it for seven years. [I mean, that is yeah.] That's kind of for sport.
Kelly:It's pretty frustrating.
Kristin:But uh, yeah, I would say buying a new house has been like four years of thinking, overthinking it. You've really only owned the house for five years, so yeah, and four of them I would have liked to not own that house. But I I don't know. I that's that's the first thing that comes to my mind. So I'm just gonna go with that. Buying the house. I mean, there's a ton of things that I overthink for no reason at all.
Kelly:Yeah, I think overthinking you you would be in the overthinking Olympics and win the gold medal, probably.
Kristin:I could. Yeah, I could. I could at least get like a trophy, you know, at least overthinker trophy.
Kelly:And not a participation one, like you'd no no no.
Kristin:I would like I'd I'd I'd place, I'd place in the race for overthinking for sure. Um, what is the weirdest compliment you've ever gotten?
Kelly:From grandma that when she said I could be her supermodel from the back.
Kristin:That's like that's like the most backhanded, the weirdest though. Remember when people used to tell you you look like the Doritos girl? Yeah, on the computer.
Kelly:Weird? That's not weird.
Kristin:I thought, I mean, it's just weird when you're like, you look like the Doritos girl. I like I think that's weird, like like the way it's like no, she was beautiful, and like I I would have liked to look like her too, but I is that weird you look like the Doritos girl? Yeah, I don't know.
Kelly:I mean, do if people tell you you look like I mean everyone gets told they look like a celebrity.
Kristin:But a good celebrity. What about depends on the celebrity?
Kelly:I mean a weird compliment. Look, I don't get approached very often. I just I'm not that friendly. My face is not that friendly. The times that I do get approached, it's like, why are you so mad? I'm not mad. I just my face. I just don't have a friendly face. I don't know if you start talking to me besides asking me why I'm mad, I probably light up a little bit, but not too much.
Kristin:You know, I always get um, and I I I absolutely it grates on my nerves. I love your glasses. That that's a compliment I get from people all the time. I love your glasses. It's like just don't compliment me. If there's nothing to compliment, just don't say anything. But like, do you though? They're just black glasses. They're just black-rimmed glasses that look like they're military issue.
Kelly:You think no one likes glasses, so you just think compliments are weird.
Kristin:Yeah, I do.
Kelly:But no, but I'm just saying, like, if [if that's like] that's a different thing. [But if that's like] that's not a weird compliment. That's you taking compliments weirdly.
Kristin:Well, I mean, potato it could be whatever. I mean, it's how I perceive it.
Kelly:I definitely think grandma telling me I could be a supermodel from the back is the weirdest compliment. [It's pretty weird.] That's where I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm sticking with my first answer. First answer. Final answer. What is a thought you have way too often?
Kristin:How do I get all these questions? I can just I can't probably the I like I like a thought that I have way too often, and and I I don't think it's true, is that like but I I do tend to think it a lot is like I could just pick up and move. Like I could just go. I could just leave. Like middle of the night. Like leave everything.
Kelly:Go to 10 bucks too?
Kristin:Yeah, like wherever. I don't know. Like sometimes I like some sometimes I have a destination, and sometimes I just think, you know what, I could just I could just go. Where are you going? Change my name. From but do you need to? I don't know. Like I could just leave. But what what are you leav what are you leaving? Everything. I have dogs though.
Kelly:Okay, so the dogs go with you. The dogs go with me. Okay. The cats don't.
Kristin:Well, no, the cats have to too.
Kelly:I mean that's that's you're just not really going anywhere.
Kristin:No. Okay. Cool. I don't know, but like, what's a thought that you have too often? It's like, I don't it's like like what like about work? Like, I mean, I don't have too many thoughts, you know. Like I work all day, I gotta like clean the house, I got animals to take care of, I got a partner. Like, I don't have like what when do I have time to have these thoughts? It seems to be all that I have. Especially like a lot of them, you know? I yeah, I mean, like there's there's nothing that I'm like I don't even think I could leave all that often, you know what I mean? Like it's the only thing I can come up with. But like I just there's not I I don't know, like just stay. I got I got shit, like I'm nothing. I don't I don't think about things like over like over and over and over again. Okay, I thought about it, it's done now, and I go, you know, be gone. Thought. Um what's a hill you die on that absolutely does not matter?
Kelly:A hill I would die on that doesn't matter, but matters to me. No, I guess it doesn't.
Kristin:I mean it can matter to you.
Kelly:I mean, like I would fight like almost anybody about the moon landing. I literally like I don't you there's nothing you could say to convince me, and I'm not even gonna give it to you just to end the argument. Like, I would go, I'll go, I'll go throw down about the moon landing, yeah.
Kristin:That it didn't that that we didn't land on the moon, yeah.
Kelly:But and like who cares? Because we did at some point, so does it matter? No, but you would you would fight somebody. I'll fight. I would fight anyone, yeah. It's like Buzz, come on, let's go. Prove it to me, Buzz. And I see I fully respect Buzz Lightyear, but I don't think that we went to the moon.
Kristin:No, it's not his name.
Kelly:I don't know what his name is.
Kristin:Aldrin. Sure. Buzz Aldrin.
Kelly:Sure, come on, whichever buzz, all the buzzes. All the buzzes.
Kristin:You're gonna fight Buzz Lightyear with all of his lasers. Stark, you're gonna Star Command.
Kelly:Fight all the buzzes. What is something you think we do better together than a part? Aww. Podcasting. I I agree because I've tried to do this by myself and it just doesn't go very well.
Kristin:You don't talk by yourself. I mean, [no, not really, no.] Okay. Um, if you could outsource one part of being a human, what are you delegating?
Kelly:Define being a human. Just anything, anything in my day, yeah. Or like hum b humanness.
Kristin:I would say anything in your day. I mean humanness, like what do you I mean what do you think? I would delegate breathing.
Kelly:Outsource cleaning the house.
Kristin:Oh, I you know what? I really thought you would have had a different answer.
Kelly:Well what do you think I was gonna say? Phone calls. Yeah, but I don't have to anymore because of text messaging. Maybe before texting. Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. But now I don't have to call. And I've actually gotten better because I talk all day.
Kristin:Yeah.
Kelly:I got I I've gotten way better at being able to call people. But yes, that was a huge fear of mine growing up. I didn't want to do it like at all.
Kristin:And pretend to be you. Yeah. And then I knew your social security number because I had to call so many people and like pretend to be you.
Kelly:I like it was a real problem before texting, and then and then after just professional be like I'm a I used to not be able to public I wasn't a good public speaker either. I'd like shake and sweat and like talk backwards. It was terrible.
Kristin:But now I can remember when I had that interview at the gap? I got all sweaty because I got nervous. The guy handed me napkins to wipe the sweat off. I don't know why I was so nervous. That was hilarious. He actually handed me a lot of napkins.
Kelly:What is something we handle very differently?
Kristin:Everything.
Kelly:You think we handle everything differently? I find yeah.
Kristin:Um probably like w what we do differently. Um it's hard because I mean, even like grocery shopping we handle differently.
Kelly:Yeah.
Kristin:You actually know what you're gonna buy before you go into the store. I have no idea. I don't know, that's not true.
Kelly:I just you pretend like you know. Do I? Or do I think that's a good thing?
Kristin:Yeah, because you're like, I have to go to the grocery store for and then you have like a list of things.
Kelly:Oh, but well, I I mean I guess that's part true because I would just buy eggs and oatmeal and avocados.
Kristin:You buy the same thing.
Kelly:Yeah, yeah, I do. Because every time I try something new, it goes horribly wrong. Like the probiotic soda that I didn't know was I just thought it was sugar-free. Who know, who knew?
Kristin:Who knew when it says probiotic soda?
Kelly:I didn't read the can because I don't read things, I don't read it, I just see what I want to see.
Kristin:If you were a villain in a movie, what would be your extremely justified origin story?
Kelly:Righteousness.
Kristin:Righteousness is your origin.
Kelly:Like, like in the fact of like you're always right, like like it's just Yeah, I just like I would do things because of righteousness, and I don't as a human necessarily always think that righteousness is the way to go, but it makes a damn good excuse when you're a villain. Then people, you know, oh well, they thought they were being righteous, they thought they were doing it makes you more lovable as a villain. I was being righteous. That is something about me that's never changed. That's like everything.
Kristin:I know. I was just like, your hair, the fact that you've always worn all black. You're like I'm [I came out of the womb like this.] Yeah, no, no, no, no, you did.
Kelly:What'd you call me the other day? A cement block.
Kristin:Yeah, you are. But I mean that's good though. Like you're just always you're you're ever present in your current.
Kelly:I think I've been around. I've I this is not my first time around. And I think I have solidified it. I don't know what I'm here for right now, but I it like who I am is was like decided day one.
Kristin:Yeah, in fact, I remember do you remember that photo of you? We you you had to bend like maybe 12 or or like between 12 and 14. You have the same exact hair you have now. You had a black like turtleneck on and you had that look. I don't remember this photo, like a school photo. No, it was like you were like you were just like sitting in a chair in probably grandma's house, but it could have been our house. I can see the chair. And it was like you were you were doing you were like reading something or whatever, and it was probably mom who like called your name, and you just you were looking at the camera like I don't know this photo. I don't know this photo. I bet your dad has it in his little photo album. Does he have a photo album? Yeah, he's like seven photo albums.
Kelly:How does dad the least sentimental person in the family have all the photos?
Kristin:Yeah, and how did the most mom, the most sentimental person, she cut all the photos. They're all tiny photos now. There's no photos on jagged edges. I have it, whatever. I have it, yeah. And then she went to go do mine, but she didn't have enough photos of me.
Kelly:She cut them up, yeah.
Kristin:I got cut out of all the photos.
Kelly:What is something you were weirdly competitive about as a kid?
Kristin:That's a hard one because I don't think I'm competitive. You're not competitive at all. Like I'm almost like anti-competitive. Like I'm almost like, never mind, I won't try. Like I'm competitive about not being competitive with yourself. Yeah, no, with anybody, with everything. Yeah, no, that's so this is a hard one because I'm not I'm I'm not competitive.
Kelly:You got kind of competitive with fantasy football. That was the first time I think I've ever seen you like to the point where you cheated.
Kristin:It's not cheating, it's cheating. It was it was strategic no planning. They allowed it to happen. If they allowed the trades to happen, it couldn't have been cheating. Cheating.
Kelly:It was not a cheater, cheaty cheater, and then karma came down and smacked your ass.
Kristin:I still won. I won though.
Kelly:You did win in the end because there was someone with more karma. More karma to face.
Kristin:As Vin Diesel says, when by an inch or a mile, I still won. I still won. Um, when I was a kid. I don't know if you're competitive as a kid though. I was not. I wasn't.
Kelly:You're good at things, but I don't know if you were competitive.
Kristin:Well, because I think being competitive, you have to want to be center of attention.
Kelly:I don't I don't think that because I don't want to be center of attention, but I sure as shit want to win.
Kristin:Okay, well then if I don't want to carry out of the water, then I don't know why I wasn't competitive.
Kelly:I don't really care about winning games though. Like I'm not sportsy competitive.
Kristin:Your life competitive? Mm-hmm.
Kelly:Yeah. Well I'll play games. I'll play sportsies, but I won't I don't care about winning.
Kristin:I don't like I I'm like, I'm I'm not advocating for not being competitive. I think being competitive is a good it's a good quality. Um that I probably wish that I would have been more apt to to do. And may maybe maybe I should. Maybe I should still have time. You have time forward. I should be more competitive. I believe being competitive with myself though at this age. Like I don't I don't know if I would like compare myself or or be competitive with others necessarily in the same way. Maybe I should. I don't know. Why not? But I I would have to say when I was a kid, I I was like Uber not competitive. No, like there's there's nothing that I can think of that I was competitive with. I would agree with that. I don't think you're lying. Um if you had to switch lives with someone for a week, anyone who would humble you the fastest? What do you mean by humble? Like maybe like whose life you know what I think would you be happy to come for like back to your own life from? That's kind of mean question.
Kelly:That's mean. That's a mean way to think about it. But you know what? I think that if I switched lives with like Brittany, who I work with, and had to like be a mom and work full-time, I think that that would be a lot harder than I think it is.
Kristin:Okay, so like full-time, like a full-time mother, full-time mom, full-time worker.
Kelly:Yeah, yeah. I think that would be really hard.
Kristin:I agree. At this point, I don't know if I could do it for a whole week. Like, like, I like to me, like that is like superman stuff. Like, I I don't I don't know if I could do it.
Kelly:I think there's people who don't work work as hard as I do who are great mothers and balance that Brittany works as hard, if not harder, than me, which is saying something. Oh, yeah, and also is a great mom. And I think that I would I would try to do that, and I would like not, I don't even know. I don't know how she does it.
Kristin:Yeah, I can see that. That would that's humbling. Like, I I would definitely be humbled. I yeah, wouldn't last a day.
Kelly:I'd be like, ah she's a much better human than me, for sure.
Kristin:You can't just put this kid in a crate for with a with a with peanut butter.
Kelly:Yeah, I mean, dogs you put in a crate.
Kristin:Like, well, I I don't know if I can handle this. Yeah, that's a good one.
Kelly:What is a trend you secretly or unsecretly miss? Because secretly, I think it's a weird twist to put on it.
Kristin:Yeah, I don't I don't know what would be a secret about it. I don't have any secrets. Um, a trend that I miss. There's lots of trends that I miss. One though, where like late 80s, early 90s, you you'd do the double socks and then you'd roll them into donuts. Oh, the double socks.
Kelly:I don't remember the donut roll, but I would totally double sock again.
Kristin:Yeah, where you had like the color sock underneath, and then you had the white socks, and then you don't remember where you would roll them down to your ankles?
Kelly:I remember scrunching the socks.
Kristin:Okay, yeah. No, we we also did scrub, we scrunched, but yeah, double socks,
Kelly:and the LA gears that had all of the little like foamy like things you could put on the laces, and then you'd have multiple lace colors. Why don't we have multiple lace colors anymore? [I think you could.] I mean, like, I'm gonna buy the herb LA gears off of eBay. Um it's happening.
Kristin:Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go with double socks. I mean, there's there's a ton.
Kelly:I haven't even thought about that in so long. I'm double socking, I'm bringing it back. That and what was the thing I told Kaylee I was gonna bring back? On fleek. On and she looked at me like I was a space alien, which I so thought I was so disgusting.
Kristin:I have to say though, by the end of the three-hour hair appointment, you almost had it, but if she was saying it. I know. You had her saying it. You're bringing it back already. You already got one person.
Kelly:Yeah, I could do it. I could do it if I cared enough, I could do it. What is a food you will never forgive for being over? I don't have my glasses on, overrated.
Kristin:Okay, overrated food, water chestnuts. [I hate water chestnuts.] I eat what a what a useless vehicle of like calories. What are they even?
Kelly:I don't even know if they have calories. I feel like they're just like balls of crunchy water.
Kristin:But not even good crunchy, it's no bitter water.
Kelly:The worst crunches, the worst texture because you chew all the other food and then you get a bite of water chestnut, and you're like, Oh, what was that? It doesn't make soggy almonds. It's like soggy almonds in there. Totally crunchy all at the same time. I don't know. It's like the crunchiest, crunchiest, soggy excavation of chestnuts.
Kristin:Eat them so much. And we already kind of well, no, all right, let's do it. If you don't want to answer it, we don't have to. Uh, if you were banned from your current life, what would your backup life be?
Kelly:I can't be anything. I mean, I would choose this, right?
Kristin:Like if I was banned from I mean, I don't know, because this is backup life, so I don't know if it has to be worth the grade. I don't know if we're downgrading your life, or I mean, I say let's take it in the other direction. Be whoever you want. What's your backup life?
Kelly:Well, okay, so my my like actual backup life, I would 100% be the store manager of a Barnes and Noble. I would love the shit out of that job. So you And I don't even know if that's backup. Like I I I I fantasize about going back and just working at Barnes and Noble because I think I just I loved working there. And I I always want to apply for Christmas help. I would like to work in retail at Christmas, specifically Barnes and Noble again.
Kristin:Like having worked at Barnes and Noble, actually with you at the same time, um, and just retail in general. I I think there's like a nostalgic feeling about retail.
Kelly:I love working retail. I I had the best time there. The best.
Kristin:Yeah, well, no, it was fun. And like, I don't know, every day was his his first day. People would be like, Um, excuse me, sir, do you know where the comedy books are? People would be like, I'm sorry, I just started working here.
Kelly:And then I spelled my name. I spelled my name K-E-L-L-E-I-G-H. And then I got secret shop, and the guy was so creepy, and he like leaned in and he was like, Kelly? And I was like, Yeah, and he was being really creepy, so I tried to like get away from him as fast as I can, and then I got a bad secret shopper rating. And then Rita used to like do lunges around the cafe with milk cartons.
Kristin:Like we would blend, we blended everything in the cafe. I mean, we were like pieces of cheesecake, blend it. We're like cookies, blend it. It was like a what what were those things, those like um heiches, blend it. We blended everything, put everything in those blenders.
Kelly:It's the best job. And it's like you get to work around all this interesting stuff, yeah, like books. It's the best job. It's hands down, it was really good. I would 100% leave my life and go do that.
Kristin:I think um between it like while I couldn't I the only other job that I liked just as much as Barnes and Noble, if not more, was Blockbuster. I feel like they're kind of the same thing, they are the same thing, but it like I think the thing with like Blockbusters aren't around. Like I could never go.
Kelly:Oh, you could never go back and do it.
Kristin:Like you could never have that, like, no one will ever have that experience. video store here's did you know scarecrow video still exists in Seattle still yeah but that's like that's like no those are like cult video it's a different lifestyle altogether it's not like like it's not like every Tuesday the new movies come out and like uh like everybody in the community comes there on Friday nights and picks up a video like they're it's they're very niche market right now. Yeah like I don't know it was just that those were two fun well and I actually worked both jobs at the same time but those were two fun jobs they were very I yeah hands down I would go back and do it I would manage a blockbuster before I managed a Barnes and Noble I love that only because there was less employees. I love Barnes and Noble I loved it what's your most irrational pet peeve like an irrational one that's what it says I mean aren't all pet peeves kind of irrational by nature no no I have some rational pet peeves like what like the like um it's funny because guys that are too grumpy at the gym and kick the stair mill behind you for no friggin' reason he's frog jumping up it no he's not I think he is I think he's like waiting till he gets to the bottom and then frog jumps he is not he is not he is being aggressive in a passive aggressive sort of wiener way that's what he's doing he's not frog jumping I mean whatever it is it's unnecessarily loud unnecessary loudness in the gun at the gym okay all right here's it I don't think it's irrational but like I don't like grunting at all at the gym what do you need to grunt for you to grunt you don't need slam weights you don't need to do those things I I I'm not saying that I'm you know Olympic lifting over here but like it's not like I lift heavy it's not like I'm picking up five pound weights I don't grunt I'm not like oh so I did if you can't if you can't do it without making that noise it's too heavy put it down and and and like like you're gonna pop something something you don't want to pop. Yes why are you grunting there's no reason for it I did lift heavy and I was able to set my weights back on the ground like a normal person. But that's the thing though it's like what were we doing the other day we were doing um we were doing something like I don't know chest flies I I don't know what to call them. I was doing whatever pain daddy said said said sit there and do this and I said okay and it was like chest day and I was doing like basically my own body weight in it. I mean that's heavy yeah but I wasn't like grunting about it like no because there's no reason for it.
Kelly:It's the same it's the same with the girls who do the tennis who scream well I think that's to like psych out your opponent but that's what it's all about.
Kristin:It's all at least there's an opponent that you're psyching out who you psyching out of the gym I don't care bro I don't care if your intestines falls onto your butthole that's not my problem I just don't want to see it I don't want to hear it.
Kelly:So yes there are rational pet peeves out there.
Kristin:Okay no that was a good one um do I still have to think of an irrational pet no you don't if you don't want to I don't I don't have I don't can't I can't I can't right now there's probably a hundred I probably have a hundred of them but like I can't I can't put a label of irrational okay all right um if your life had a warning label what would it say to other people well yeah I mean yeah who are you are you reading it like we can't warn yourself about yourself um like what what is what do the rattlesnake signs say like but uh do you want to hear what mine was gonna be yeah let's hear you I answered your question so you go ahead friendly yeah I like yes not friendly don't do not approach yeah do not approach that's it yep that's it and that's not necessarily true but it's true for most people yeah no I'm all should just stay away yes what's something you pretend to like but absolutely do not oh I pretend to like it do you pretend to like anything that you don't no I don't think I can like I I think it's like it's like a useless it's useless to do that but it but it's also just like a flaw in my coding that I don't know if I can pretend like like when's the last time you ever see me pretend I well I'm just saying like I don't think I have that like just smile and be like I I think people know like you hate this. I'm like okay my coworkers one time this wasn't even long ago threw me a going away party because I got a new job and I was leaving and I showed up and it was for and it was a surprise it was a surprise party I hate surprises I hate parties you also hate being celebrated. I do I do and they were all like surprise and I whatever my face looked like I remember one coworker goes oh she hates it and I just like 20 minutes telling everybody like no this is cool like thanks you know I just wanted to have some dinner you know like I like um okay if you had to leave the country immediately what are you grabbing besides your phone okay so if I were if I needed to leave the country immediately and I needed to grab something there's so many things that I would like have a hard time with but also not I don't know um I would grab I would grab the bunny I made with grandma because I can't get it back things I can't get back like I would grab the the bunny and I would grab I would have a I'll really I would have a really hard time leaving all of the other stuffed animals.
Kelly:So in fact I've done this several times in my life like when we've moved or or like I can't I would have to grab all the stuffed animals because I couldn't leave one behind because they'd feel bad. I couldn't just leave a stuffed animal behind.
Kristin:I agree no I I mean my closet like in the closet there's like the there's like two I have two shelves up at the top with yeah I'd have to go around and find them all stuffed animals and things that I wouldn't probably leave behind.
Kelly:I would I would feel like bad forever for leaving a stuffed animal behind the bunny that grandma made with me is gone. Really mom really she threw it away I think so it's gone or did she give it away she might give it away she gave Jerry the giraffe away poor mom's never gonna live down Jerry the giraffe and then she you know what she does though she sends me photos all the time all the time she goes to stores she found one in Walmart just the other day of these giraffes that look just like Jerry and she's like look at this and I'm like are you gonna buy it for me?
Kristin:No yeah but like that's like a fun thing though like it's been like a theme throughout your whole life it's not fun.
Kelly:I'm not having fun.
Kristin:I just prefer if we could just buy the giraffe or not anyway what is something you understand about me that should sound in oh I said that already what is a thought you have way too often okay mixed your piles up what is your Roman Empire what does that even mean what it means what does that mean I don't know what that means what is my Roman Empire what does that mean like like well what I don't understand is like what is like the thing that takes over everything or what is the thing I think it's like a trendy thing and I don't really I don't totally understand I have the internet hold on what is your Roman Empire is a viral social media trend asking people to share the topic idea person or thing that they think about frequently often obsessively that others might find unusual or niche but the I don't even understand this. Okay that's like super deep but what I'm gonna say is um like like that's super like I don't even know I like you I stopped caring halfway through the sentence exactly I was like yeah okay I don't I don't I don't think like that you know um but I would say what my Roman Empire is right now is making 2026 my year of doing things like for myself. I want to build the audience I want to build a podcast like build the podcast I want to um do some creative things and and do them for for us and other things for myself and um right now that's my Roman Empire is focusing on moving forward in a trajectory for it's a decent I mean of all the things you could obsess about I would say that's healthy. Yeah like like um obsessed about doing something well like I want to do this and I want to do it well. Why is it Roman Empire did they obsess about the Roman Empire was Caesar like yeah this is all I want uh I mean like if they did they didn't I mean it fell so it didn't do good job. I mean it fell after a long time it was viable no it did they they conquered a lot you know that's good it was good planning up until the end healthy obsession up until the end well everything has to end right um okay what is something you secretly hope people notice about you I'm funny because I don't necessarily feel funny but I think I am funny I think I've got some one-liners I can like I think you're funny I'm clever I'm funny and clever yeah I am even though I don't my face doesn't say it straight off the bat I don't think people know that I'm funny and clever I'm out of questions so you what you want to do one more yeah what's something you've realized you don't need like are we talking like emotionally or like things like actual things I think you're whatever your gut what did what does your gut say how does your gut answer this question um okay so my gut answers it as like guilt I don't think I need guilt no no one needs guilt yeah but I I think I've lived a lot of my life feeling guilt can teach you a lot of things when you've actually done something bad bad people should feel guilty. Yeah yeah yeah I meant for me specifically I'm not a bad person no but I feel like I've lived a lot of life like with guilt like I've carried guilt with me a lot um and I don't think I need to anymore that's what my gut says is guilt. That's a good one. Yeah it's good like as far as like things I don't I don't have I don't I don't even need a double answer. You just only need one answer. Well that's my answer. All right yep that's it that's all you get guilt