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Why Are We Like This?

Kelly & Kristin McArthur Season 1 Episode 8

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We debate barbecue sauce, throw pillows, accent walls, little feet, and whether not caring is actually just another way of caring too much. Basically, it's forty minutes of accidentally profiling each other.

No life advice.
Just sibling damage.

Questions Only No Preparation

Kelly

So you came with questions.

Kristin

You didn't, did you? You don't have questions. You're accusing me of not having questions, and now you have that look on your face like you're scrambling for questions. I have a feeling yours are gonna be sillier than mine. Like, how silly did you want? I didn't do silly, silly questions.

Kelly

I didn't do super I they're me. They're very me. I don't understand. You will ask me. You don't ever ask questions. I ask questions all the time.

Kristin

No, other than how does that make you feel?

Kelly

Let's just get into it.

Kristin

All right. I'm just saying that I feel like my side is gonna be very different than like your side. But isn't that the point? Yeah, no, that's fine. Isn't it weird though? Okay, like let's just take one second to appreciate how strange it is to meet people outside of the normal atmosphere that you see them in. So Pain Daddy was just at Kelly's house because he's going to watch her dogs. And it was very weird that he exists outside of the gym. I just feel like he just like lives there. Yeah, yeah. Like he just lives there in a in a black shirt and black shorts. And like when you when he's not training me, he just gets plugged in in the back and then he comes. Like it's weird that he exists in the world.

Kelly

In the world, yeah. Yeah. Because we've never seen him in the wild.

Kristin

No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. Who's going for it? So don't, don't, don't you go first? Oh, okay.

The Patchouli Problem

Kelly

What's the smell that's trying too hard? Patchouli. Oh, yeah. I hate patchouli.

Kristin

Ugh.

Kelly

I hate patchy. Like, can it be done right? It can totally be it can't be right.

Kristin

But it can. It can be done right for a certain type of person, but it does not belong anywhere near me, you know? In any circumstance.

Kelly

I actually think I'm allergic to it.

Kristin

I mean, you could be, but yeah, like patchouli, I don't know where it got that's like, oh, it's calming. No, it makes me want to scratch my nose off.

Kelly

It is not the chamomile of sense.

Kristin

No, and it doesn't belong everywhere. It doesn't belong anywhere. If you were to give me the power to snap my fingers and thanos something off the face of the earth, it would be the smell of patchouli.

Kelly

Yeah, I don't like patchy, especially when you walk into a store and it's like patchouli stanking, like you just get that wave. I usually immediately just turn around and walk out. Yeah, because it's not for me.

Kristin

And like maybe it's not this way anymore, but patchouli, when we were growing up, always came with the second smell of body odor. Whoever had patchouli on also had Bio. And so I just I just equate patchouli with BO. That's what it is. Wait, is it you go I go or you go?

Kelly

Yeah, you go I go.

Personality As Stores And Signature Style

Kelly

Okay. I'm gonna do 10 questions all in a row.

Kristin

Okay. If you had to describe my personality using only stores, what stores would you pick? These are good questions. They're not all like this. They don't like you.

Kelly

If I had to describe your personality in stores, Barnes and Noble and Starbucks. And not because you go to those two stores, but because I feel like they're not, I I wouldn't describe you as a clothing store or like a home store. I feel like you have a lot of interest, you know, like knowledge type things. Let me start over. Barnes. You're like, actually, I don't know you at all. No, they're those two stores, but I it's like your energy level. Is books and coffee? Yeah. Like if I could say independent bookstore with a coffee shop inside.

Kristin

So now I'm only one store. Like I just keep wanting to.

Kelly

You're like and a truck stop. Oh, you know what I would say? You know what I would say? No, it's different. It's different. You're like loves. You're loves.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I like about Barnes and Noble? Books, music, and coffee. Oh my god. It's stationary in game.

Kristin

You're a Fred Meyer. That's what I mean.

Kelly

Oh, you know what? No, but it would be a Barnes Noble next to a Cos Plus.

Kristin

Really? Cos plus?

Kelly

Yeah.

Kristin

Okay. I mean, I don't hate it, you know. I accept whatever you're gonna get for me. Didn't you want to do import export at some point? No. Oh. I've had many iterations of myself, but I don't ever think I've had the import-export iteration of me. But you know what though? That's not a bad idea.

Kelly

You did want to sew underwear at one point.

Kristin

No, I wanted to sew just clothes in general, but yes, underwear. Underwear.

Kelly

No, we were sitting at Jai Thai, and you told me that you wanted to quit your job and sew underwear, even though the only sewing experience you have is in school when you sewed your hair. When you sewed your hair into your garment.

Kristin

Yeah, no, I I left fashion design school behind at that point. I knew that it was not for me when that happened, but I'm not sure. You told me you wanted to sew underwear, you wanted to sew lingerie.

Kelly

You did. I don't think I ever would have said I wanted to sew it because I knew I was not a sewer.

Kristin

You said sew it. I could not have said that. I think you just remember something different. Okay, but that's fine. You know what? Maybe I did. And like I said, there's been many iterations of Chrissy.

Kelly

What's the most you purchase you've ever made? Not the dogs. You can't answer the dogs or any animal.

Kristin

The most me purchase I've ever made. I don't know. It's hard because I'm not a shopper, right? I'm not like a things person. So it's very hard for me. But I I mean I I'm coming up with something. I'm just talking. Okay, it's the thing that keeps coming back over and over again that I've thought about, and I still actually have these, is my Doc Martins with the ribbon laces. I've never been able to find them again either. But I think that's the most me purchase I've like the most like inside on my outside. Yeah. Yeah. Big fat ribbon laces. I've been wanting those.

Kelly

I've been so jelly of those.

Kristin

Yeah, okay. I'm gonna go with those. That's the most me purchase I've ever made.

Kelly

I accept it.

Kristin

Okay.

The Fights That Turn Into Lore

Kristin

What's the funniest fight we've ever had? Like you and me. I mean, we've had some pretty good ones. What's the funniest one?

Kelly

The one that I keep thinking about was when we like went at it so hard that we like went down the stairs.

Kristin

You put my head through the wall.

Kelly

Like put your head through the wall like a maniac.

SPEAKER_00

There was it was like the Kool-Aid man. Oh yeah. Put your head through the wall. I didn't do that.

Kelly

We definitely there was a knockdown. Knockdown drag out. Like sisters can fight. I don't know if that was funny though. It wasn't funny, but like we're laughing.

Kristin

I mean, now it is. You know what that one I think of? It's the one where we were driving to the airport. Mom was driving. Yeah, you were remembered. Fighting with whatever. I was in the back seat, you were in the front seat, and you were like punching me from the front seat. Mom's like, knock it off.

Kelly

That was when I was wearing all my clothes.

Kristin

And you put on all of your clothes, every single item in her closet, including boots. She was like, I'm leaving. And then you then you left somewhere. You just walked away.

Kelly

I was running away. I ran away to McDonald's, and then they had to give me a cheeseburger because I didn't have any money.

Kristin

No, I thought all you had was a hundred-dollar bill.

Kelly

All I had was a hundred dollar bill. Which celebrity would make the best substitute teacher? Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I think he'd be a fun sub like I would I'd take his class for the day. That came out of nowhere, but I totally agree.

Kristin

Yeah. I smell what the rock's cooking.

Kelly

Home at class?

Kristin

Oh my god, how amazing would it be to do home at class with the rock? Um, yeah, no, I'm gonna go final answer on that one. Okay.

Grown Up Purchases And Weird Beliefs

Kristin

What purchase under $100 has had the biggest impact on your life? And again, you can't say animals. I have never paid under $100 for an animal.

Kelly

Maybe a hamster. We can go up to $500 if you want. I'm trying to think of what this would be. Like an actual like piece of furniture that I bought and thought, like, oh look, I'm a grown-up. I just bought furniture.

Kristin

That black couch.

Kelly

The black one in our old house.

Kristin

You were very proud of that couch when you bought it. You should have been. I'm not, I'm not giving, I'm not throwing shade at the couch. I'm just saying that was the first time that I think you were like, I bought this couch. I bought this couch from like a furniture store, not from like the.

Kelly

So that wasn't under a hundred dollars, but it was probably like the turning point to oh look, I can purchase a thing. You know what else? The first real mattress I bought myself because I had back pain. And so I took mom to more furniture and I fought with her in more furniture because she was like, You're gonna pay four thousand dollars for a mattress, and I was like, Yes, I can't even stand up in the morning. Yeah, I'm gonna pay for a mattress. And so I fought with mom and then I brought it home, and then I brought beef home the next day, and she peed on it. And then I had to run water at three in the morning through the mattress and stand it up on the wall for three weeks so it would dry off. But that I was so proud of buying my own mattress again, not under a hundred dollars, it was four thousand dollars, but I think it counts.

Kristin

Yeah, it counts.

Kelly

I just it I felt like a grown-up, like yeah, it's life changing.

Kristin

That's what it's like.

Kelly

It's life changing, it's like a rite of passage. I just bought a grown-up thing.

Kristin

Yeah, it feels good when you do that. Yeah, it does.

Kelly

I accept what opinion do you have that has no origin story?

Kristin

It's hard because they all have origin stories. You can't trust men with little feet. A hundred percent true. I don't know where it came from, or like little T-Rex hands, but more little feet though.

Kelly

Me it's ever proven itself to be wrong.

Kristin

No, it's only ever, it's only ever worked out to be a hundred percent the truth.

Kelly

And there aren't many men with little feet.

Kristin

No, and I don't mean like if it if your feet are proportional to your body, I'm not there's not a specific size I'm talking about. I'm talking about your feet are little for your body. Like if you are in proportion, you are fine. I trust you. If if your feet are out of proportion, you and I have probably had problems in the past, in the past life problems. Um okay, this one's good. What do you think I secretly care way too much about? I've got my armor on, I'm so prepared.

Kelly

Like I think you care way too much about not caring. Oh like I think you care way too much about I have to just not care. It's all fine, it's all fine and like in a people-pleasing way though. Like in a in yourself, like if there's something big, you immediately go to no, it's fine, I don't care. And it seems like because you care so much, you need to not care.

Kristin

Okay. I mean, I don't think that's wrong, especially like in in the past. You're better now. I am better now. I am, yeah, but I definitely think that I had a aversion to caring about things because I do feel like God made me tough. I had a lot of things that like would not be.

Kelly

If the bottom fell out, I'm not saying there's not reasons for it.

Kristin

No, no, no. But I don't think that my not caring helped those situations. Like, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't it wasn't a helpful coping mechanism that I and then it leaked into other things, exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah. No, I I get it, I accept that. It's a good one. I like it.

Kelly

All right, good.

Everyday Magic And Changing Taste

Kelly

What's a completely ordinary thing that still feels like magic?

Kristin

Okay, wait, are we talking like actual like wizard and witches magic or are we talking about life magic?

Kelly

Like Santa.

Kristin

Oh, okay.

Kelly

But not Santa, because he's not ordinary.

Kristin

This is gonna be a very me answer, and it's it's probably like dogs. It is dogs, yeah.

Kelly

No, stop. It is like how much I like how much I love something else. Do something else.

Kristin

Okay, cut that out then, Dave. And don't leave it in to be funny, just cut it out. Um what okay, what feels like magic? It's really hard. I mean, I don't like you name something in your life while I think about it. It's not that easy. Like, what normal thing in your everyday life still feels like magic?

Kelly

When the weather is perfect, like when the light is perfect, and all the clouds are the bright.

Kristin

Yeah, yeah.

Kelly

Like you ever walk down the street and you're like, you have that feeling of like, oh, this feels like vacation.

Kristin

I get that sometimes, and it's really weird because it's always kind of like coming out of the grocery store. I'll have the I don't know why it's like coming out of the grocery store.

Kelly

I feel like, oh wow, you just feel good, like a little tree, yeah, or like the desert after it rains, or like when I walk welly and the the wind is blowing just right and the light is just right, that's a little shady, magic.

Kristin

Okay, so you're just saying like perfect weather.

Kelly

No, when the weather's perfect that no, that that feeling when the weather is perfect, okay. We're just talking like feeling perfect, that feeling is magic.

Kristin

Well, that opens up a whole nother door of things. What were you thinking? Like a thing that happens all the time. Like every time you open the closet door, it's like Narnia. Like the actual thing.

SPEAKER_00

It's Narnia.

Kristin

At least I get a lion. Okay, I got it. When you can drive with the windows down.

Kelly

Oh, yeah, that's a nice one.

Kristin

Yeah, like just music pump. Like you got your good music on and you put the windows down in your car, and there's no like weird, you know how like sometimes when you put the windows down and the wind is going, it goes boom, boom, boom, boom. Like there's nothing, it's just like it's just perfect.

Kelly

You just wait because when you take the top off that bronco, magic. It's like you're free. It's the best feeling. And I don't even like wind. I'm like scared, like legit scared of wind. And I love the broncos'. The windows are tall enough, yeah. And then you put that little mesh thing on and it diffuses it all, but the it still hits you a little bit. When I listen to Robin hang with me at top volume with my top not my top off, but the Broncos top off. One gets you arrested, the other one just gets you looked at. Your turn.

Kristin

Oh, my turn. Yeah. What's one opinion you've changed your mind about in your 30s or 40s?

Kelly

That I had in my 30s or 40s?

Kristin

That you have before your 30s or 40s that you've changed your mind about.

Kelly

Like it could be like your 30s to your 40s or your 20s to your 30s, whatever, 20s to 40s. Doesn't matter. What opinion have I changed my mind about? That walls should be colors. I don't believe they should be. Like when mom was talking this morning at breakfast about that lady painting the one wall mauve and I wanted to like puke in my breakfast burrito.

Kristin

I didn't even hear that conversation.

Kelly

No, she was mom was on one, but I don't know. I don't think like a wall should be, I don't an accent wall shouldn't. I'm like, it just doesn't, I can't get I agree with you.

Kristin

I don't believe in accent walls anymore. I think that's a terrible idea. Don't ever do it. But clearly I used to. Yeah, no, I I'm with you on that one. Like, I think a nice neutral tone all over, that's one thing. But like a blue room and an orange room and a red wall.

Kelly

Three walls, one color and one wall, another color.

Kristin

Red accent wall.

Kelly

I don't know. A lot of the colors.

Kristin

When we painted that whole room pink pink, yeah. And then we did the Tiffany's blue in the kitchen. Yeah. And it was like even when you turned the lights off, it looked like the light was like.

Kelly

But didn't we repaint the kitchen? Yeah, we did.

Kristin

Because it was so neon. Like it was very aggressive. The pink was very aggressive too, but it was one of those room that nobody stayed in. Yeah. So I think we just shut the door and didn't care. But yeah, no, I I totally agree with you. I'm I'm I'm not about accent walls or color.

Kelly

But I used to think that that was great.

Kristin

Yeah.

Kelly

Not anymore. No. I hate painting rooms. I hate painting.

Kristin

Oh, it's worse. Because I think it's like one of those tasks where you're like, I could just do it myself. Yeah.

Kelly

And then you're like halfway through two days later and you're dirty, you've forgot paint all over. You have like everything dries out. You have to wash everything out. No, painting's the worst.

Kristin

It is. No, it's it's one of those things, it's like moving where you think you can do it yourself. So you're like, why waste money on that? And it's like, no, get movers, get movers, movers, and let them move all of your shit.

Kelly

I almost killed those firefighter movers. It was like a hundred degrees that day in Seattle, which is hot.

Kristin

That is very hot up there.

Kelly

And three-floor walk up, and they ran their asses up and down those stairs. The one guy crumpled onto the side.

Kristin

Oh, you almost killed them just from their from asking them to move you. I thought they had done something, and you almost no, no, no.

Kelly

They're great movers. They're yeah, no, they were really good. But they I almost they almost, I think they all thought they were like, we're tough. And I tested that.

Kristin

Yeah, no, there's a lot of stairs in your seal.

Kelly

I'll be fine, I want to be a Navy SEAL. He was the one crumpled on the ground.

Kristin

If you wanted to be, you would be.

Kelly

Poor guys. I hope all of his dreams came true.

Appliances With Big Egos

Kelly

Um, which household appliance has the biggest ego?

Kristin

It's the biggest ego. See, like I want to say oven because technically you can survive without it. How do you survive without an oven? There's a microwave. There's there's there's food that doesn't need to be cooked. But I also kind of want to say a blender.

SPEAKER_03

Why?

Kristin

I don't know. They're just like they just they just rub me the wrong way.

unknown

I don't know why.

Kelly

I just I don't know. Is it the oven? Because you don't need it all that often and it needs to take up so much space.

Kristin

It's so much center, it's so aggressive for like well, you use it at Thanksgiving, you know what I mean? And it's just so aggressive.

Kelly

I'm just saying so expensive. And they're expensive, and they have to be the center.

Kristin

Even if you don't use them, they're dirty. How did you get dirty? Why is there just why is there shit all leaked in here? Like who used this? And and they're hard to clean. They're just stupid. I hate them. It's so true. Like you can have a barbecue. Like, like, think about how much better food is not in an oven. I mean, there's good oven food. Cookies. You can just use a convection oven. I can just I can I actually use a convection oven over.

Kelly

It's still an oven. Yeah, but are you talking about like a brevel, like a countertop oven? Okay, not a convection oven.

Kristin

No, not a convection oven, like a countertop oven. Like a Breville. Maybe that's why my big aggressive oven irks me so much, is because I have my counter oven that I use for everything because it's better, it's easier, and I can clean it. And I don't need, I don't need this big thing. Just got a big ego for no reason. You could just take them out of houses and no one would notice. Like half of the households in America wouldn't notice that they were missing an oven. And I'm not talking about the top, the stove. Yeah, I'm not talking about the stove, I'm talking about the oven. So very different things. You asked people for my opinion. Okay, but I want to know what do you think is the unsung hero of household appliances? The beverage fridge. Oh, that's a good one.

Kelly

Not everybody has one, but like I think like if you have one separates your stuff out so nice. If you don't have a beverage fridge, I'm not this is like you know, like first one problem stuff. But if you like having put a beverage fridge in in the remodel, yeah, you separate out all of the food. You separate the beverages from the fruit. Let me answer that again because you feel a little bougie. You feel a little bougie. No, no, it's not the bouginess. I just can't feel like I can articulate the the wait, why I think that way. Because he's kind of like in the corner, you know, like he's in the corner, but he does a lot. He holds the milk, he holds the wine.

Kristin

You just really like your mixers.

Kelly

Yeah, I do, and he's so cute and like compact, but it's like the TARDIS, like you open it up and there's like all this space. Who knew? And then all the beverages are in all the beverages because it's little, it can go exactly where you want it to go. So it goes right by your glasses.

Kristin

So all your stuff is convenient right there. Okay.

Kelly

Open the door and there's the milk for the coffee.

SPEAKER_03

What?

Kristin

You have to walk all the way over to the I I think I don't even I don't have a beverage fridge, but I believe you. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelly

No, I'm not sure. Underrated. And it's underrated, so not everyone has one. Beverage fridge. Final answer.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, good. I like it.

Amazon Cart Drama And Art Dreams

Kelly

If your Amazon purchase history became a museum exhibit, what's the centerpiece?

Kristin

What's the thing I buy the most, or what's the centerpiece? I don't know.

Kelly

What's the what's the pinnacle of your Amazon purchase history?

Kristin

Purchase history.

Kelly

Hold on. Did mom throw away all the things in your cart? She does that all the time.

Kristin

No, she does it all the time. She thinks it's funny. All right. So our mom is cheap and she won't pay for her own Prime account. So years ago, I gave her my access to mine, which is fine. She doesn't like give me money for it. She just thinks it's like this free thing that she can enjoy. But anyway, she will do this thing where I will save things in the cart. I will save things in my cart. I'm like, oh, here's all the things that I want. She will go in there in the morning and she will delete everything I have in the cart. Is there a save for later? There is. And her stuff gets saved for later because I am considerate. My stuff gets deleted. And then she calls me and goes, I deleted your Amazon cart. Ha.

Kelly

What did, but what if she had to buy? Why doesn't she just say, hey, there's a bunch of stuff in your Amazon cart? Could you also add that? Save it for later.

Kristin

The button to delete and save for later are right next to each other. It's no more extra time to just save it for later. Or get your own Amazon account. Do you know that one time Amazon banned me from returning books? I got banned from returning books because of how many e-books she had bought and returned. Your guess is as good as mine. Because you can sample them. Yeah, no, you can send a sample. You can also just like not, you know? Just like don't return it. We'll go live. You paid the five dollars. I'm sorry. Read the book. Uh okay, so the pinnacle of my Amazon purchases the pinnacle. Ooh, okay. It's weird. I don't know. I I wouldn't call this the pinnacle, but I I think it's probably it would be on a pedestal. Yeah, it would, it would be. So it was um the dolls that you compose for like drawing. Oh, yeah.

Kelly

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The little figures that you can draw with, yeah.

Kristin

Yeah, I got those one year because I was going to be a artist, an artiste. What? I don't. This was like years ago. I was going to do a um uh graphic novel. Oh, yeah. So I got a female and a male poseable figure. Why do you need a female? For boobs and things.

Kelly

Just because you could just have a flat one and then they could do whatever you can put boobs on it, but sure. I mean they came. They could dance though, I guess.

Kristin

They could dance. Yes, interaction. Yeah, or fight. I never became an artiste. They're still in a box. I still have them. They are in a box in the closet. You know what

TV Break Alias And Off Campus

Kristin

we're watching?

Kelly

Hmm. Alias. Okay, yeah, no, yeah, I did know that. You didn't know. And I bring this up because Sydney Bristow's always fighting with everybody. Everybody. I didn't realize Sydney Bristow is like the quintessential aughts girl. Like the kind of rebellious kick-ass, but still like sweet-faced.

Kristin

Yes.

Kelly

Sydney Bristow was definitely the she's like angsty, but still like girl next door.

Kristin

Put together, but still kind of a mess.

Kelly

Yeah, yeah. And she'll snap your neck. Yeah. Yeah. And she can wear red hair in a punk outfit or like an evening gown. She can be my mascot. I'll take her. A hundred percent. Yeah, Jennifer Gardner in whatever.

Kristin

But I mean, like like Sydney Bristow. Like, Sydney Bristow is for sure.

Kelly

As a character, I think she's like where girls were back then.

Kristin

Yeah, I think it was definitely the feeling.

Kelly

Yeah, and like she's in her master's program, but also a spy. Such a good show. I love it.

Kristin

It's a really good show. It is a really good show. Oh, wait. While we're doing our TV break that we do every episode, which is really weird, but while we do our TV break, I just wanted to update you. And well, I was gonna say everyone, but there's no one that listens, so it's just you don't update.

Kelly

There's three people in Virginia. We see you.

Kristin

Um but no, um off campus. I am to the point where they are together, but I feel like they're gonna break up.

Kelly

I don't know what that means. What episode five?

Kristin

Probably like like five or six. I think I just finished five.

Kelly

Off campus made me feel weird and great all at the same time. I love it. I think it's so cute. I'm also a romance reader, though. But it was like, it wasn't just spicy, it was like raunchy.

Kristin

Well, I mean, I don't know. I mean, they're they're naked, but I think that it's okay now that they're they're not just naked, they're like naked. They're like it's explicit sex scenes. Like yeah, I guess.

Kelly

If you had those two dolls, people may call it porn.

Kristin

No, no, no, but I I feel like I think the thing that they did very well, I was very surprised at first about how explicit it was, but I think they kept the story very sweet and grounded, and it didn't mind it after that. Like after you get into a couple episodes, it it's you're kind of like, okay, it's not just like Playboy and sex for sex sake. They've developed characters, it's not raunchy because there's the actual story there. Yeah, it there's a reason for the sex, yes, but it is a lot, there's a reason for it, but also like they're not treating it like something that is gross, you know? No, it's it's very just normal, yes, and it doesn't it it's not a gross thing for the characters either. It's not shock value, not shock value, no.

Kelly

No, I think it's it's romance novel, it's exactly how the novel probably goes. Yes, it's very Which I'm now actually gonna go read.

Kristin

Very cute show. It's a very cute show. I I'm I'm happy that you made me watch it.

Advice We Ignore And Karma Moments

Kristin

Okay, what's one piece of advice everyone gives that you've completely ignored?

Kelly

Um the one thing he's popping into my head is if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Say stuff. Maybe stuff like maybe stuff needs to be said. And maybe there's times the stuff doesn't need to be said, but maybe there's times the stuff does need to be said.

Kristin

I don't think it is necessarily always bad to talk a little trash.

Kelly

It's not saying talk trash. I'm saying you weren't nice or you aren't worth my time. Don't be like mean just for mean sake. No, that's not what I'm saying.

Kristin

But I think like if you meet somebody that needs to be knocked down a peg, it's okay to not take the high road every single time. That's all I'm saying. It's like sometimes karma puts you in those people's paths so that you can smack them upside their heads, and like it's okay to it's okay to do karma's will. Yeah, you know, like you can't question buckets of karma.

Kelly

You have buckets of karma. Back a truck up, unload it, won't even make a dent. And I'm not I'm not saying be mean, and I'm not saying I don't like your clothes, I'm not saying like and unsolicited. I'm saying if something needs to be said, it's okay to say it sometimes. And you should read the situation and decide. That and the customer's always right. I worked retail, but a lot of times they're not right. Oh, it's my turn. It's my turn. What is the most suspicious condiment suspicious?

Kristin

Suspicious says to me that I don't necessarily like it. Barbecue sauce.

Kelly

You don't like barbecue sauce?

Kristin

Nope. I don't hate it. I don't hate barbecue sauce, but it's not like everyone loved barbecue sauce. It's not my like it I can go without it. Like if you're like, you love barbecue sauce or something else to dip your chicken nuggets in. I'm going something else every single time. But if there's nothing else and you hand me barbecue sauce, I will go ahead. But I also think it's suspicious because there's so many different types. There's hot ones, there's sweet ones, there's vinegary ones. It can't all be the same sauce, you know? Like it should have all of different names. I'm just not a fan.

Kelly

I'm just gonna say barbecue sauce. Yeah, barbecue sauce. That's not where I thought anyone would go.

Kristin

Really? Why? I don't know. What do you think is the most suspicious relish? Why?

Kelly

Because it's a little bit jelly-like. Where does the jelly like come from? Like, how does the relish how where's the viscosity from? It's pickles, it's chopped up pickles, but they somehow it's a little bit gluey in how it comes together as one full blob of chunk pickles. I think I think it depends on the relish, but yeah, okay. I love relish. I will all kinds of relish, every single kind of relish.

Kristin

What I appreciate about relish is it names it what it is either sweet relish or dill relish. You know what you're getting.

Kelly

Barbecue sauce also does that. No, it does not. Every single barbecue sauce is a different name. No, yeah, there's there's all kinds of barbecue sauces.

Kristin

No, just because it's named sweet baby raise, I don't know. Like, and then like sweet. So you you're you're there. Not necessarily not at the barbecue sauce.

Kelly

No, it's like tangy sweet baby rays, and then it's not sweet, you know? It's tangy and sweet, like sweet and sour. I'm just saying, why is sweet sauce?

Kristin

Is it sour sauce buggy? No, it's not barbecue. It's it's in the name, sweet and sour. It's not like a barbecue-y. Sure, but it's in the name. It's not just barbecue sauce. Like, I just I just feel like any sauce that doesn't have a category, it's like go ahead and put it in a barbecue. Is sweet and sour sauce even sour? Or is it just sweet? No, there's a tang to it.

Kelly

There's like a there's like a vinegar, but it's like a quality, like when everyone ate like pale food, that would have been tangy to them. It's not tangy anymore. I mean, I think it depends on the sweet and sauce. Sweet and sour, it's just sort of red sauce, red sticky sauce.

Kristin

No, there's normally like a vinegar base to it. There's there's normally like a tasty, yeah.

Kelly

Sugar sauce. Sugar chicken. No, that's orange chicken. It's no, it's like it's a sugar chicken, though. But chicken with a sugar. Sugar chicken, but no, that's orange yellow sauce. Maybe not yellow. Red or orange.

Kristin

Well, the sweet and sour sauce at McDonald's is yellow.

Kelly

You're right. It's a little bit more mustardy.

Kristin

I would call it mustard. That's how it's hard vinegary. Okay.

Overrated To Own Underrated To Borrow

Kelly

What's something that's overrated to own but underrated to borrow?

Kristin

Sorry, overrated to own but underrated to borrow. I mean, what I'm I guess I'm having a hard time with what does underrated to borrow really mean? Does it mean that people don't borrow it often? Or that you don't think that you could borrow it? Because like immediately mine went to car, right? Like it's overrated to own a car. You know, they're expensive. There's a bunch of crap that you gotta fix on them all the time. Like it's but then again, though, you don't really borrow one either, though. Mine went to pickup truck. I'm gonna go with that, even though I'm not a hundred percent sure what underrated to borrow means.

Kelly

If you own a pickup truck, then all of a sudden you're helping everybody. But I do think there's a lot of people that own pickup trucks that have no idea what to use them for.

Kristin

No, that's why they jack them up. They jack them up and it's like you couldn't even get a trailer on the back of that. Yeah, it'd be like slanted, like like the front wheels wouldn't even touch the ground on the trailer, but then they have to crawl into that. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that one then. What do we want to do? What? How many more, how many more questions?

Kelly

I have one more question.

Kristin

You have one more question. Okay, so I'll do one more question. Okay, here's one. What's the most me thing I've ever done? Embarrassing story. It doesn't matter. Like, what's the most me thing that I've that you've ever seen me do?

Kelly

I feel like you've walked in somewhere and then just walked out without an explanation and like just left. But I can see it in my head, but I can't remember the exact circumstance. It feels like not too long. It feels like every every interaction I've ever had. You walked in and in your head you go, nope, and then you just leave and you didn't say anything to anybody, you just go. And it can be it can be you you've left the building, or it can be you walked into the store and you just decided no, and you turned around and left, and then no one can find you. Maybe you're in another store, maybe you're not.

Kristin

I mean, like it's very on brand. I mean, I I couldn't, I don't know if I could even pinpoint one time that I've done that. It just feels like a thing that I do.

Kelly

Yeah, like all the time. And you've done it since you were little. All of a sudden you're just gone.

Kristin

Am I the original like nope out of like like nope out of stuff, you know?

Kelly

Like your original ghoster.

Kristin

It's like nope.

Kelly

And you you do it all the time, yeah. For all kinds of reasons. Sometimes I don't have a reason. No, and it can even just be we're in Target, and all of a sudden I turn around to show you something, you're not there. Who knows where you are? I don't know. Uh you're just gone. You've gone somewhere.

Kristin

That's a good one.

Kelly

I mean, it is it's very, very on brand for me. Are you ready?

The Throw Pillow Manifesto

Kelly

Yeah. Give me your hottest take on decorative pillows.

Kristin

Don't know why you open this can of worms. My hottest take on decorative pillows is that there was a um, well, there was a guy who sold me a couch once who would not let me pick my own decorative pillows, even though that was part of the experience. And he kept telling me they're not that important. And I was like, I don't care. I think it's important. I want to pick my pillows. It was at that place in um, do you remember the place in Snowhomish that we bought the first Oh McDonald's or something like that? Yeah, it wasn't McDonald's, it was like Kelvin's furniture or whatever, like whatever it was. But um, it was a smaller furniture store. But I went in there and it was it was kind of like what you were talking about earlier. It was like my first couch. It was the first couch I was buying with my own money. It's like a big deal. And I was like, what's all this fabric? Like, what's this this book of fabric that's sitting on a leather couch? And he was like, Oh, that's just for the throw pillows, it doesn't matter. And I was like, What do you mean? And he was like, Well, you can like you can like choose your throw pillows, and I was like, Well, I want to do, I want to do that. Like, let's let's do that. And he was like, They're just pillows, you're not gonna care. But what was he gonna just write something down? Yeah, I guess maybe like get the pillows that were like that were on the show. But he has to write a number down anyway. Why can't it be the number you want? You could tell he hated life. He was probably divorced at least once or twice. You're putting a lot of I do not like this man. He but he took something that was special to me. Like, I had to fight him. Did you pick your pillows? Yes, but I had to like fight for them. And I I picked some wonderful, like one was like a blue and cream chevron pillow, and the other one was like a um kind of like multicolored fabric, but it had like an orange, like a burnt orange undertone to it. They were beautiful, but he had to write now. I know, yeah, but no, he and he he literally argued with me longer than it longer than the time it took me to actually pick out the pillows I want. He did not want to show me the throw pillow things.

unknown

Why?

Kristin

I I don't know. This and this is this is where we get to the point of like he has a backstory in my mind that's just sad, you know? Just a sad man who tried to keep me from my pillow picking journey. And I loved those pillows. And you know what? Out of spite, like I hung on to those pillows longer than I had the couch for. I know that I'm not supposed to care about things, but I cared about that one thing. I wanted it, and I was gonna get it. I was gonna pick my own pillows, and he was like, you don't need to. So, like those things you fight for. Yeah, I've I will go to the mat for pillows, for for throw pillows. I will go to the mat. I will, and even honestly, even to this day, even like like I have these, I have these pillows that I put on the bed whenever we're gonna show the house. And Dal didn't put them out once. And I got mad, I got angry. I got angry that he kept the throw pillows in the closet. I was like, these need to go out there because it looks put together. This is how you look like a person who's put together. You know, people who aren't put together, but they don't have throw pillows. Go to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_03

I really thought this was gonna go the other way. I really thought you were gonna be like, throw pillows are stupid. You opened a can of worms with this. I told you.

SPEAKER_00

Because it was either throw pillows or plastic hangers, and I chose throw pillows.

Kristin

Plastic hangers, you would have got the I don't care. Yeah, you would have got I don't care. You went throw pillows and like I have thoughts. I have thoughts and feelings, and like don't keep me from my throw pillows, don't do it. I don't want, I don't want them. I want them. They make me feel better about what you don't even have any throw pillows in your house. Well, not they're coming out slowly again after the years of puppy. I would not let the puppies get my throw pillows.

SPEAKER_00

I have pillows all over the place.

Kristin

Yeah, normally I do as well, but not with the puppies. But now, because I couldn't, I couldn't handle them tearing them up. They like chewed the they chewed the the cabinets. They chewed they actually even chewed the um there's one uh dining room table chair that could no longer be sit in. Yeah, you I wouldn't sit in that chair if I was anybody who cared about my life. And I don't really care about that. I don't really care about any of those things. But my throw pillows, I don't know if I could handle my throw pillows all over the place. It would, it would really be sad. It would be a sad day for me.

SPEAKER_03

I just think they say so much about your life. Like about the surprise. It's like you have arrived if you have throw pillows. There's tears in my eyes. I hate it to that guy wouldn't let me pick up my throw pillows. Like I'm some kind of moron on this street.