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Monarch: Legacy of Monsters with Goji Guy
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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of The Tallest Kaiju Podcast! This week I'm joined by Goji Guy. Goji Guy is a prominent voice in the YouTube Kaiju space, having amassed over 300k subscribers so far. His content is one of the best places to seek out for anything Kaiju (especially Godzilla, if that wasn't obvious). Be sure to catch Monarch: Legacy of Monsters on Apple TV!
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Thank you for listening to the Talicks Kaiju Podcast. In today's episode, I am joined by Gojiguy. Gojiguy is a prominent voice of Kaiju Media on YouTube, having amassed over 300,000 subscribers and making videos that span from Godzilla, Predators, FNAF, Ultraman, Dexter, Jurassic World, many things he explores through his content on his channel. Welcome Gojiguy to today's episode, and be sure to subscribe to his YouTube channel. Thank you. First things first, what was your introduction to Kaiju cinema and how has that affected your trajectory as an artist?
SPEAKER_00Um, I was first introduced to Kaiju uh from my dad. He showed me the original 54 film, at least the uh American version. So what was that, 56, I think. Um and uh I first got into it because of this like classic guitar thing I had, and then it it played music, and one of them was Blue Oyster Cult's Godzilla. And then uh he asked me if I knew what it was. I think I was like five or six, and I'm like, no. He showed me it. I was promptly horrified, asked if it was real, and my dad, seeing the opportunity to be a troll, said, Oh, yeah, yeah, no, that's real. Um, but I've just been into it ever since, you know. Like I was into dinosaurs beforehand, but I kind of skipped the whole dinosaur phase that a lot of Godzilla fans go through because I just got into dinosaurs, and then I saw this, I'm like, oh, this is a taller, fire spinning dinosaur. I don't want to play with you anymore, you know, like with Woody. Um, and I've spent the kaiju since, and um I always wanted to do YouTube, and I mean my friends made some YouTube videos for the Godzilla channel, and I remember I made a Godzilla video and it did slightly better than the other, so like rather than two views at like four. Um, and I'm like, oh, I'm I'm really blowing up now. And so that just kind of turned into me watching a lot of Godzilla channels, obsessing over them, such as Monster Island Buddies, Jobby the Hong, Luminous, and uh, I've just been into Godzilla since and I'm like, I can, you know, I have figures, I want to make videos on this. And I just started making videos from there, and I I always been just I was just always into YouTube as a whole, and uh, you know, it's like if I can make this a job, talking about Godzilla and doing YouTube videos, like two things I've wanted to do since I was a you know very, very little kid. Uh, I was like, absolutely, yeah, full full speed ahead on that. No looking back.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I I I love that just the idea of like a dad showing his kid like the original Godzilla. Like, not even one of the more right, and like not, you know, one of the silly ones, like all monsters attack or or anything. It's just like, okay, here's here's the original, the dark, you know, the the darker one.
SPEAKER_00I remember watching and I'm like, I didn't really understand what's going on. And I remember asking my dad, I'm like, what does she mean they're gonna see their dad soon? Is he is he gonna come grab them, pick them up? And he's like, Right. Something like that. But uh, yeah, but I mean I'm glad he showed me that one originally because that got me uh into it. I think that's probably also why I like Godzilla 2014 so much, because like I like the much more serious tone. And uh I know a lot of people are like, oh, you know, Godzilla's not in until the very end, but you know, I like the slow burn. Um Michael Doherty, the director King of the Monsters, said the same thing. He loves G14, and so you can have a good mix between action and you know serious notes for sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I I really think that you know Gareth Edwards did a really great job with the like the suspense around it. He really built tension in an incredible way. And I would have personally liked to see a little bit more of the release of that tension, but I think that it serviced a very, very well done Godzilla film, um, especially you know, in comparison to you know 1998 and um and I guess yeah, 1998's the the closest American attempt at Godzilla, and I think on that token it really succeeds. Um but I think that you know Gareth Edwards in general is just a really good kaiju filmmaker in the sense that um you know Rogue One, it's like the Death Star's like the Kaiju.
SPEAKER_00I love Rogue One, it's my favorite Star Wars film. Really? I always say that everyone's like, What about Revenge of the Fifth? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, lightsabers, blah blah blah. But uh, Rogue One's phenomenal.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I I love like I always look at that movie like the Death Star is like the kaiju of it because every time it comes to screen and you know it's it's gearing up to attack or whatever, the tension in the room feels like a giant monster movie to me.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04And then he he does that again in the creator when um what's it called? Nomad. Did you see the creator?
SPEAKER_00I have not. I plan too soon though, for sure.
SPEAKER_04Oh it it's um special effects-wise, it's pretty incredible at the budget it had, but uh Nomad is like this giant space station thing that has like this giant laser or whatever, but every time it comes on screen, it has that same idea that you know that same feeling I get in his other movies where it's like okay, nomad is like the kaiju of this movie. Um and obviously he did Jurassic Park Rebirth or Jurassic World Rebirth, and there's a uh a big old monster in that one, so sure is yeah, and it all started um no, he did monsters before Godzilla, didn't he?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think that's what Legendary saw, and like, oh, you you work really well on the budget.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. So I thought he's very successful at just doing a monster flick.
SPEAKER_00Um he is very and also of course everything on those movies have a shot of someone in a hallway in red. You know, you got Rogue on the Vader, you have the D Rex in the Snickers bar, and you have uh uh Ford's mom in G14. I have yet to see the creator, but I I imagine there's something of something of that somewhere in there.
SPEAKER_04It might. I you know what? There's definitely at least a couple hallway sequences, I think. But yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I I'm gonna have to re-watch it and see if I notice any red lights.
SPEAKER_00I like to imagine that's in his like director contract.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00It's like I get paid, I'm in charge, hallway.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Red lights some somewhere in there for sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, absolutely. And uh before we get off the subject, I'm one of those Godzilla fans, like you mentioned, where it started with me with Jurassic Park. It was like Jurassic Park, you see the the T-Rex, you see the big big dinosaurs, and then you're like, Oh, Godzilla's kind of like this, but better even.
SPEAKER_00It's just taller and shoots fire.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. It's like Jurassic Park's like that gateway drug to Godzilla fandom, I think.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, my dad fully skipped that for me. He just threw me straight to D events, like, all right, here you go. Here's the darkest film. Enjoy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I think after that was versus Hidorah, which is like arguably just as dark.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then it then it was versus space. That was my third. So quite I was like, okay, now we're getting fun. So yeah, I was like, but I I rocked with it though. I was scared of the oceans, horrified because I thought it was real. Um, but I still loved it. I was like, this is awesome. Just giant fire breathing dinosaur. Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. Um, so with our subject of today's conversation, would you want to give a little introduction, a little rundown of what we plan to talk about?
SPEAKER_00Talking about Legacy of Monsters episode one and two. And by the time you guys are watching this, episode three should be out. Um but yeah, we're just gonna be talking about uh thoughts, opinions, yada yada yada. And uh I had the questions pulled up and then they closed. Let me get those back open. It's all good. So and copy paste. All right. Do you uh you want to start on the first one?
SPEAKER_04Um yeah, yeah. So um I recently had heard about this possibility of a spin-off taking place in the Cold War, um, focusing on White Russell's character. Um have you heard anything about that? I mean, probably uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I think I heard it first from I was at a Kaiju News Outlet or Kaiju United. Um I don't know if there's much info on it currently. I know there's been some talk on like Reddit and Twitter about I think one of the Russell's, I think it's the older one, uh Wyatt, uh what's his dad's Kurt Russell. Um I think he mentioned something that like kind of like hinted towards a season three of Monarch. Um, but I've also heard like apparently like you know, like people online have talked to how there's apparently some like it's been rumored there's a big like cliffhanger at the end of season two. So I mean that'd be pretty cool if you have season three and then a spin-off show as well at the same time. As long as there's kaiju, I'll be there for it, you know. I I don't care regardless. If it if it's a movie about like Nikika from Dominion, I'll be there. I'll be first in line. So, but yeah, no, regardless, I think it's gonna be really interesting building upon the uh the lore of the past, because like I I feel like that's a lot of the monster verse has happened in the past like 10 years of the monster verse, like in lore. Um and I feel like yeah, there's definitely a whole bunch that can be explored and explained, and I can't wait for them to find the uh plot uh cave painting like every single film and show they have. Um, but I'm excited regardless. I I've heard, you know, I've heard about that for a little bit now, and I'm I'm pretty pumped for that. I think why I think besides like um uh Brian Cranson's character, I think the Russell's have like the second best character in the uh in the Monsterverse for sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I I think a lot of that, at least for me, um, you know, I give agents to just the the people playing those parts. Kurt Russell has been an absolute favorite of mine for years, and Wyatt Russell has proven that you know he he maintains that talent that you know his dad has. Not as good, obviously, but there's a reason that he's also, you know, it's not just nepotism, right? Uh why Wyatt Russell's got a little bit more going with that, but I do I I would really like to see um monarch take place between um King of the Monsters and Godzilla versus Kong. Because um we I I don't think we're exploring that with this season. Um doubt it. And there is like there's so much more after King of the Monsters because what did Ghidorah do? Ghidorah fucking woke up all the Titans, right? Um, and that you know probably had crazy repercussions all around the world, but we only saw like a little smidget of it. So they could, you know, if they if they wanted to continue a season to this show, I mean that's I personally would love to see how they explore that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I feel like it would be best to, of course, have their own story, but please, please keep Dominion and Kingdom Kong canon, because like I love Legacy of Monsters, but it's like a snowplow to the lore. It's like, oh, that's it up. Oh, yeah. Never heard about that, and then they just do their own thing, which you know, I've been fine with so far. But I I mean I know like a lot of the Dominion things are fan favorites, especially with um the Monarch declassified comics as well, you know, amuluk, you know, fighting behemoth, uh, camazots, like essentially stealing Ghidorah's Storm to like fuse it with Skull Island Storm and then break out. There's so much stuff, and uh, given they're on Skull Island currently, I feel like that would be like if they they would at least have to show Camazots. Like if they show any from the comics or like either from Dominion or Kingdom Kong. I can understand they don't show Dominion stuff because that's Godzilla's story. It's like told from his point of view, but they have to show Camazots in season three because like that's like yeah, monarchs there fighting with Kong. If they don't show Camazots, it's like, what are we doing? Come on. But um yeah, I think that's really the only thing in between the films as of now. I mean, there's there's like some stuff send the novels, like very like light stuff. Um, but I mean, other than that, like there's really nothing much between uh King of Monsters and G VK.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, have we had um because I I'm familiar with the comics and I really like what um, you know, especially with Dominion, I I like the way that they and I think there's a lot of freedom to that um that platform to really like explore more of these ideas. But have we had any spin-off novels that weren't just novelizations of the movies? Do you know? Um besides Dominion Kingdom Kong. Is is that a novel?
SPEAKER_00Uh well it's not a novel. They're they're both comics.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. That's yeah, I'm saying like a like a actual novel, like a book that they've released.
SPEAKER_00I don't I don't believe so. The closest thing we have is like, I mean, it's still a comic. It's a really, really unknown one called Fight or Flight. Um, it's very short, but it is during the the attack in uh Florida in GBK um when the fighter just didn't shoot is from his point of view because to him, he wasn't gonna shoot Godzilla because Godzilla saved him in Godzilla 2014. And so I really like that comic because it really like it's uh it's one of the most like linked like uh chain linking parts in the monster verse, like which it was kind of a shame to say, but it's like you know, a lot of the films like I mean they of course exist uh after each other, but they almost feel like they're on their they're in their own different thing. But I like Flight or Flight a lot because it it has a kid who was there during the G14 attacks, Godzilla saved him, he joins the army, and then they tell him, like, hey, shoot Godzilla with your rockets. He's like, no, he's doing this for a reason. It's like sure he's lashing out on nowhere, but he's he wouldn't just do this to do this. So, but other than other than that, I mean, but that's still a comic. I don't believe, yeah, there's no there's no novel. There is the monarch files coming out soon, um, in like a month or two, that's just gonna have info on pretty much like all the kaiju, even ones like I don't think we've seen yet. It's like they're gonna have like illustrations of them. Um, but yeah, no, other than that, no, there's there's no just novel in between the films yet. Yeah, there's some games, there's that ride coming out in South Korea, but yeah, there's no novel, sadly.
SPEAKER_04Right. And um, yeah, the m uh I didn't know about the monarch files. I think that'll be really dope. I like when uh franchises kind of give that supplemental, you know, supplemental lore through yeah other different formats, but um I definitely think that you know to what you said about Legacy of Monsters kind of bulldozing some lore, um, it really does a disservice when you have comics that are exploring things in such a fascinating way where it's like, okay, you guys could just use this, um, but maybe maybe it's a budget thing, right? Because there's something you could do in a comic that you can't, you know, you don't have a budget for it.
SPEAKER_00Essentially unlimited, yeah. It's like I feel that there's also ways they could have easily kept them canon, uh, like in uh Awakening, where Shinamura is killed off by a nuclear bomb. It's I think it's in the G14 novelization that they bombed Godzilla many times. It wasn't just once, they bombed him uh dozens of times. All they had to do was have one line where they say, What's that up there? And then have the nuke go off. They don't have to show Shinamura, just say, hey, there's something in the sky, boom, you keep the entire comic canon. You can mention something about some large Ramudo Prime that injured Godzilla, boom, keep Aftershot Canon. So I just hope they uh I I you know I've seen some people like say, like, oh, the the directors, they they hate the comics. It's like, no, I doubt they hate them. I just think it's likely they just don't really like know them or like not care, like they don't care for them in the in the sense of like, oh, I hate this, but like they don't care enough for them, like, uh, yeah, let me like rewrite the story to add and to keep this like niche thing here, you know? So, but I just hope they, you know, keep some of the comic stuff. There's nothing outright that says the comics aren't canon anymore, but there's nothing that says they are either. So it's like it's kind of weird. They're in they're in a weird in-between currently.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's just you you hope that they don't just turn it all to legends and then just pick from it like you know what Star Wars did. Yeah. Um, you know, it it because like I don't think it's gone too crazy, you know. I I think that in context, what they're bringing to the table in these comics and spin-offs, I think it's you know, I think I think it's very good to keep around. Um and like I said, the the only understandable piece of it is if you know budgetary constraints. They're like, oh, we can't put all that shit in our show right now, right?
SPEAKER_00Uh the actors and actresses are expensive as is.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, exactly. Especially when you got two Russells, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And I mean, after the success of season one, uh the you know, actors and actresses, unless they already signed something beforehand for a second season, they're gonna be more expensive to hire as well. Yep. It also makes it complicated because the like novelization of King of the Monsters, and I believe GX uh GBK as well, both of those mention, I think they both name drop the Mudo Prime. And I believe King of the Monsters directly like references Shinamura from Awakening. So it's like not only is it like possibly decanonizing comics, but possibly even the novelizations, which is like right that that's really odd.
SPEAKER_04So and Mudo Prime doesn't Muto Prime show up at the end of King of the Monsters?
SPEAKER_00I'm pretty sure it's one of the it was the uh the Queen Muda appeared. Mudo Prime was dead at that point. Oh my god, okay. She dies in 2014 or 15, I believe.
SPEAKER_04Gotcha. Interesting. Yeah, because I I always thought that that was like Mudo Prime, because I'm not as well versed, obviously, especially with the Barb.
SPEAKER_00That is the fan name given to the Barb. I don't know, I don't know where it came from. Um, I like it more than Doug, but uh Oh, I love the name Doug. I I like Doug, but you know, in in my space of doing versus stuff for like an entire year, all the comments are like, huh, Doug would one tap. It's like, all right, it got unfunny like two weeks into this. So, but yeah, her her fan name is Barb for whatever reason. I I don't know what the context of it is, but Barb is the Queen Muto's name.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I love that. I love that. So yeah, so there's so there's a Muto Prime out there somewhere still. Is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_00Or um well, I mean, the Muto Prime died in uh Aftershock.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00But I mean, just given the given Barb is a Queen Muto, it's likely the next level after Queen is Prime. So it goes like female queen prime. And if you're a male muto, probably like uh you know uh pray mantis, you just die after, you know, yeah, you have kids. Um so it's it's possible that she could turn into Muto Prime. Um it's possible there are other uh mutos out there. I like to imagine behind uh one of the doors in King in uh G VK that Apex bought one of the eggs that may have survived during the uh what was it? It was in Boston, right? Yeah, yeah, not Boston, it was uh San Francisco. I like to imagine there's there's some mudos out there still alive, but yeah, so currently I think the only one alive is the queen canonically. There's something that says she's dead yet.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Barb.
SPEAKER_00Barb.
SPEAKER_04I love that. Um so Anna Sawai. Is that how you pronounce last name? I have no idea. She's uh she she's the actress who plays Kate in uh Legacy of Monsters. You know, she had previously spoken about her experience with um the Japan's earthquake in 2011 and how that trauma influenced how she decided to play the character. And I always I always thought that was interesting because you know, one of the biggest influences on Shin Godzilla in 2016 was the government's reaction to the Fukushima disaster, which was a direct result of that earthquake. Yeah. So that's something, you know, looking into this that you know there I I think it's fascinating to have that connective tissue between the Monster Verse and Shin Godzilla, you know, based on just what you know, one of the lead actresses went through in real life.
SPEAKER_00I I actually wasn't aware of that when I was reading through these questions. I had actually never uh heard of that. I've been trying to watch more interviews recently, but I was uh not aware. Um yeah, I mean, I I I could see why that would affect how she plays your character, given, you know, I mean, if she was there during that, right? And then it's like, okay, you're like essentially like your characters kind of experienced something like at like to a magnitude of that, right? You're a teacher, and you know, all your students, you know, just fell off a bridge and all that. So yeah, I could imagine that that definitely affects how how she plays Kate for sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and um, you know, I think that um I think pulling from that too, I I I think it does give some authenticity to the performance. Um she's not like, you know, I don't think she's like Golden Globe worthy uh in in the way that she's performing, but I do think that right next to the Brussels.
SPEAKER_00Not for legacy, but for uh Shogun.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, she's yeah, she's phenomenal in Shogun. I re I really love her in that, but um I got I've been mean to watch that.
SPEAKER_00I've been that's been on the uh on the list for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04There's another actor. I forgot who the actor is in Legacy of Monsters, but he's also a character in Shogun. Um interesting. It might be who plays her dad in the show. Don't remember that actor's name, but I believe he plays a character in Shogun. Okay. Um, they're not related in Shogun, but um just another interesting little tidbit there that you know those two. Um yeah, so I I really like her character though. Um it might be my biases towards just her as an actress and seeing her in Shogun, but um definitely don't have her up there like the Russell's, but I would say she's like the next compelling character in this series that I really enjoy following.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think season two so far she's been definitely more enjoyable for me. Um, you know, with like with all due like respect to you know season one, she just wasn't an enjoyable character for me in the first season. It's like, you know, she was mean to her mom, she cheated on her uh on her girlfriend. I think soon to be wife, I'm pretty sure, in the in the show. It's like she just like she was just an asshole to everyone. And um, but season two though, I definitely like how she's like actually like you know, like the the whole scene of her fighting the uh what they call it, um the little bug thing. Um they called it something. Scarab, that's what they called it. Um so I I like seeing her actually like you know use I guess like her, you know, anger to like, you know, be more productive, I guess. The word like not like not like insulting her like brother or mom anymore. So I I like seeing her character so far, uh as of as of episode one and two. And I'm excited to see uh what she does in episode three as well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I think there was a scene in episode two, she was having a conversation with her dad or brother. I it's it I'm drawing a blank on it, but um that conversation it sounded like there was a little bit more accountability on her part with just how she's been feeling, and um I think accountability is the thing that frustrated me about her in season one. So if we if we kind of get to see a little bit more of that from the character side of things, it's like it doesn't make them as much of an unlikable protagonist, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, season one, the only the only characters I cared for was the uh the past trio. It's yeah to a point I don't know what episode it was, but Kate's in the airport, and then Tim comes up to her and is talking to her. And I literally I this is the first the first time watching it. I just skipped it. I just I don't like I do not care. Shut up. I just give me kaiju. And I just skipped until like it got to either the past trio or the scene changed, but it was like five minutes of them talking. I'm like, I I I really could not bother. But so far, also Tim's character. Love love how he's playing uh being played this season, much more you know, up and center. He's uh you know, really taking control. I like how you know he's you know in command of Outpost 18.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, absolutely. I definitely think that they learned their lesson from season one with um because I I think the you know the the issues that you and I seem to have with it, I think that was pretty uh pretty common, especially in the fan base. And I I think that they were receptive to it. Um it sounds like episode three uh is a little more on like the human side, so we'll see how that turns out when we see it. Yeah, but um I do I do think that they learned their lesson to some capacity, yeah. Um and one thing which I found super interesting, but I thought honestly it could have been less than this, but Godzilla had only like four minutes of screen time in that whole first season. Um in season two so far, we have Kong, we've got Titan X, we've got the scarabs. Like, do you think that we're gonna get more than four minutes?
SPEAKER_01I was so excited seeing the psychovultures. I was so excited. I was I was screaming, I was so pumped.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, they're finally at least they're bringing some comic stuff. Uh yeah, last time I saw a comic kaiju was Tima, and she immediately died. So oh my gosh, seeing a psychovulture just just kick ass was so cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I'd love to hear that. What uh what role did they play in the comics? I would I would love to hear about their role in the comics.
SPEAKER_00I believe it was in it wasn't Kingdom Kong, it was Skull Island Birth of Kong. Um, they just kind of bothered Kong, they didn't really do too much. Um, but they just like shot lightning at him, and there's like an alpha male version. It's just a much larger version of the psychovulture, kind of around the size of like uh I guess like I don't know if you've seen the anime, but like the size of like his giant hawk. Um, this is a much larger version of the normal psychovulture. Um and uh to any viewers listening, a cool little fact that I learned while working on something for the psychovultures. Um, the psychovultures and leaf wings are actually uh related, they're like cousins to each other. So I guess it's got family beef given, you know, he absolutely sniped the other one with the lightning.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, I love that. Um I I really need to I'll have to you'll have to give me a list of just the comics. Um, just so I can return and escape to Skull Island.
SPEAKER_00Return just came out, Escape is coming out actively. They are a direct sequel and continuation of the Skull Island anime. Oh watching the anime and then those comics together, I say the best thing in the monster verse. Just because really it's just so consistent to each other. It's like the anime ends, return begins. Return ends, escape begins. It is such such a good trilogy of stuff. And Escape is still coming out now. I think uh SU2 comes out in like a month, and then like two uh each month after that, the next two issues of that come out. But very excited. That it's they introduced Ugoth. He's this big like mushroom kaiju. Uh it's kind of like Amy Luck. Um, but it's also weird because he just like he just forms, like he like gets his body destroyed, and then he just comes back. He's almost like a spirit. It's uh it's and then Kong gets his flaming sword. There's so much in it. It's he it's it's insane. It's a great, it's a great series so far.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, um, and and I still have to watch that anime because I haven't seen the Skull Island anime in I love it. What uh what time period is the anime?
SPEAKER_00Um it takes place now. It's kind of weird because like I think it was canon originally, but now at the comics, it's kind of like it's more dubious. But if you just take the sh the uh anime, it takes place um long after the uh film and said that takes place in '73. I believe it takes place, I think, in like the uh like like mid-90s. Um and so it's uh it's not teenage Kong. And it's a this Kong is almost as large as his movie counterpart, um, but he's not quite as tall as that one. But yeah, he's a much older Kong. He's like you know, like early 20s at that point, if you want, like human years.
SPEAKER_04Okay, and would you say that the anime explores um like other kaijus, or is it like kind of limited?
SPEAKER_00I one of my like hot takes, as my fans say, um, is just I like the anime more than season one of legacy, just because I like my favorite fight in Legacy Monsters, and everybody always thinks I'm kidding, but the Mantle Claw versus Mother Long Legs. I I always like the big fights, but that's all we ever get. Big world-ending fights. If guys low doesn't win this, the world ends. But it's like it's the monster verse. There should be monsters everywhere. And so seeing the little things fight is so awesome to me. And the show, the skull island anime, all the characters are like six out of ten. So there's none that like are remarkable, but they're all like fine to watch. And there's plenty of kaiju stuff. There's the giant hawk, which I love. There's the killer chameleons, one of my favorite things on Skull Island now. Uh the Kraken's cool. Like, there's so many cool kaiju things, and like it's not even necessarily a Kong-centered show. Like, sure, he's in it plenty, but it's more like literally on the island itself. It is the only thing we have really that's like exploring the island fully. Like they show so many new creatures. I think they show a couple, like before like they have like their own version of a skull crawler. It's like a cool little like armor design almost. So yeah, I really, really enjoyed the skull on anime.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, that's how I I I need to get on that, especially if I'm gonna be making a freaking kaiju podcast. I need to I think I need to try to watch everything. Um, but that's good to know, especially that the there's a comic series that follows it, because I don't think there's gonna be another season of the anime, right? Especially with the continuing.
SPEAKER_00I know that they like said they're going to, but I mean I haven't heard Netflix say they have like pulled away from that idea. But given the comic series going on now, it's like I don't really know what they would do next. Because I imagine Escape is gonna end with you know them escaping Skull Island. So it's like unless season two just follows the characters and normal day-to-day life, which I really doubt Netflix would do. Um, it's like I love the monster verse, but I I don't really care for what insert bodyguard here does on his Tuesday afternoons. Yeah. Um, so I don't imagine we'll get a season two, but the comics do a phenomenal job. Christopher Jones's art is uh is is is incredible, and he does a great job at imitating the show.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and while we're on the subject of Kong, I would I I will say that I would love to see another film capture that same vibe of uh Kong Skull Island. Oh yeah, 100%. Because like you watch it and it just seems even with the goofier like Godzilla vs. Kong or um New Empire, like it's just there's still like a there's a personality to Skull Island that you know hasn't been repeated, I think. Yeah. Um yeah, it's just it's just like even the way that some of the fight scenes were shot, you have Tom Hiddleston in slow motion with the gas mask just like cutting through um some of those flying creatures, and um yeah, it was just kind of ridiculous in in hindsight. Um yeah, I love Skull Island.
SPEAKER_00I've always I really hope we get to see a film, it's just Gold Island in Hollow Earth. Like, I think there's so many kaiju that could work as a Kong, like Gorosaurus as an obvious reference to uh um what is it, King Kong escapes. If they add him to the monster verse, I don't think they should kill him, keep him alive, but I think that'd be nice. Or one I've said for a long time, I'd love to see him fight Godzilla. He's my favorite kaiju in general, but a Megalon versus Kong film, I think Megalon would work phenomenal. You know, in the Hollow Earth, Cetopia, maybe the Seetopians could have, you know, some ancient beef with the Eewi. You know, how would the Hollow Earth tunnels get made? I don't know a giant burrowing kaiju. I think a uh a Megalon versus Kong film would be just awesome to see Megalon flying around a zero gravity and Kong having to adapt and keep his you know like army safe and whatnot.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I I definitely think that we deserve um a standalone Kong film. Um being a good thing.
SPEAKER_00They go back to individual films for a little bit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, I even with Godzilla, man, because Godzilla doesn't have got it's much harder to humanize Godzilla compared to like King Kong. King Kong is like much, you know, it's much easier to like you give him like the the human eyes and he knows sign language and all this stuff, but Godzilla, like he's just especially when they're sharing the screen together, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's like you could barely try to humanize Kong and really, really try to like make Godzilla feel more connected. But it's like when you have Kong there with him, it's like yeah, you know, it's like it's like you could really try really hard to make you know an ice cream truck look really cool, but then if there's a Lamborghini that has a dent in it beside it, it's like you're still your eyes are still gonna be drawing the Lamborghini. Right. Um so I just I just really hope after Supernova they they go back to their own. Uh, but you know, they make a lot of money. So we'll I really doubt we'll they'll go back to that. But um, I hope they do. I really hope they do.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and going back to Legacy of Monsters, um, you know, how much Godzilla do you think we'll actually get? Like in your opinion, how much are you expecting?
SPEAKER_00You know, we've seen quite a few uh scenes and trailers of him in you know what seems to be Tokyo, of him what's like seemingly fighting Titan X at night in the water and then in the day on land. So I think we'll see quite a bit of Godzilla this season. I'm not gonna, you know, be like, oh, we're gonna see him more than Kong, you know. I doubt that because this season said to be like more Kong focused, because like we didn't see Godzilla much in season one, but we followed him in the sense that like they were like essentially near him all the time. Um so I imagine we'll still see more Kong this season. Uh, but I definitely do think we'll we'll at least have like I'd hope at least like 10 minutes of Godzilla footage for sure this time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I I think people will riot if you know we we get a whole other season of the show and and we're still like very, very little on Godzilla. Um and with Titan X, I haven't done too much research about uh the design or inspiration behind Titan X. So I'm curious to know if you've read up on anything about it.
SPEAKER_00Um there's like some interview stuff. It's just like they tried to match his colors and design to the scarabs, which makes me think they may have made the scarabs first. They knew they wanted to go ocean, uh like an ocean titan uh in season two. And uh, I mean, just based on designs, clearly based on like cephalopods and whatnot, like you know, uh octopus and whatnot. But I don't believe there's any like super in lore thing yet. I imagine we'll probably get more as like we explore with the past trio, given you know they seem to know so much about it. Um but as of right now, it's not like too too much info on her. I believe it's a girl. I'm pretty sure I've heard somewhere else. In episode one, they say like he, but I'm pretty sure Apple's like somewhere confirms a girl.
SPEAKER_04So okay, I gotcha. I gotcha. Because um, I I do like the I do like the look and I like the ocean element of this kaiju. Um I also I'm like I'm really wanting to see more classic Godzilla or just kaiju creatures come up in the monster verse. Um like you were just talking about Megalon, like I know that they want to create their own kaiju. Like, I mean, King of the Monsters had so many of them come up, and I'm pretty sure all of them were just uh created by um like the the filmmakers, right? I don't think there was like any OG except Rodan and King Ghidorah and Mothra. I think everything else was like just new um that they created for the series for uh Monsterverse.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't believe there's any individual um I don't think Michael Dorde said like he like tried to get other ones outside of those. He he said like multiple times like they they were offered to him and they're like, Do you want to use them? And he's like, duh. Um but yeah, outside of that, I don't believe there's uh yeah, I don't think there's like any others that have been besides Mackie Gaza, like he was brought to the screen, but other than those, yeah. Right, right. I I think like a lot of the um I think the super super sci-fi ones are kind of meh, at least like current monsters. So it's like Biolante, Space Guys a little destroyer. But I think the more grounded ones could work like Titanosaurus, Gorosaurus, Megalon, King Caesar would work phenomenal. I would love to see King Caesar.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, especially with what they did with Scar King and just establishing the the hollow earth and everything. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00I would love to see. I thought originally Scar King was uh King Caesar, just given the whole like eyes, like the eye thing we see in like the first trailer, and then you know it's like it's a threat to Godzilla and Kong. It's like you know, being able to shoot Godzilla's beam back at him. But uh nope, it was Skar King. Skar King's he's cool, but I mean he's yeah, he's alright.
SPEAKER_04Weak, weak as hell.
unknownHe's okay.
SPEAKER_00I thought I was gonna be him versus like Guzzle and Kong with his bare hands, and it's like, oh no, he just has like one of the strongest titans, just you know, on a lease, as as one does, obviously. Right. Alright. Um so yeah. I would love to see King Caesar and Monster. If I could pick any, even though I love Megalon, he has my heart, I gotta go King Caesar. I want to see him back or Barragon, Barragon or Baron as well. Any of those work, any of those, any of those would be phenomenal.
SPEAKER_04And of course Angiris. I was just gonna bring up Angiris. Yeah. Um, I wonder if we would because Engirus for the most part teams up with Godzilla in in a lot of the I mean in a good chunk of the films I've seen. Yeah. Um, so you know, I like why not? Why not bring in Engirus and have it be like Godzilla- Imagine Godzilla, Kong, Engirus, Mothra. They're all teaming up against like, you know, just like a group of other kaiju.
SPEAKER_00If they introduced Gorosaurus as well in the Hollow Earth, that'd just be that'd be an awesome team, yeah. Little Avengers squad.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that'd be that'd be great. I hope that they don't do Jet Jaguar.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, kind of scared of that. That that's a big take of mine. I yeah, I've always thought firstly, as a Megalon defender, obviously I have to hate Jet Jaguar.
SPEAKER_04Right, right.
SPEAKER_00But like he's just, I mean, to all the Jet fans watching, I apologize. He's just a washed down Ultraman. That's all he is. He's just a more boring version of an Ultraman in every way. It's like, you know, if you if you like Jet Jaguar, go watch literally any Ultraman show. You'll you'll like him more. It's you know, like Jet's cool, but I I really don't care for him in the monarch. I think if they're gonna have another robot, make it Mogira. Build off mechanizable scraps, like in the Hey Sei era, and have it be built by Monarch. So you have a big M on its chest for Monarch and Mogira. You know, like Mogira would work very well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I definitely be an outpost, you know, like Outpost 18 in the uh the first two episodes. I think that'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know, and I think that would work really, really well. Um, but the I feel like the Monsterverse is is kooky enough to give us their version of a jet Jaguar, just because like they're they're kind of going more, you know, crazy with with um and more colorful and more like quirky. I think quirky is the word I'm I'm looking for. And yeah, because I I'm already I'm hearing that they're possibly giving um King Kong like a mech suit or something, or like an Iron Man suit.
SPEAKER_00Those leaks were fake, all like fake was one individual dude, okay, and uh he got insane backlash online. Um uh like people were like he was like, uh, just your address. Um yeah, people were fuming. Because he also he also pushed the like Ghidorah, it's gonna be in minus zero thing. Like he he just he just I don't know what else he has going on in his day, but he's like, you know what? I'm just gonna make up leaks. And he just did that. And so it was like, oh well, yeah, but I hope he doesn't get a suit. Just give him lightning powers, please. Just just give him his lightning powers. He should have gotten those when he got revived in G VK by the Heave. But yeah, you know, it's like, no, let's give him another tool, let's give him a shield this time, let's give him a sword, let's give him you know a helmet. It's like just give him powers, give him something, an actual power.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, because I I could see where people would believe that. I mean, I I believe it's not that I believed that the rumor was true, but I was just like, I was like, it could be.
SPEAKER_00I mean, since this first film, I mean, he used the anchor on the chain. It's like he's been using tools, which is cool because he's a monkey and monkeys use tools, but it's like, don't give him a suit, dude. Please do not give him an Iron Man suit. That's gonna look so dumb. Yeah, that's gonna look so dumb.
SPEAKER_04And if they do that, then you know that they're gonna be bringing in Jet Jaguar and doing all this other crazy shit if they just double down on that.
SPEAKER_00Um everyone's like, oh, it's like Showa era goofiness. The Showa era did not give Kong a suit. It's like the Showa era goofiness was like gabbera, a giant bully toad. But it's like it was not, huh? Let's let's give one of these guys an Iron Man suit. That that was not Showa era silliness. Don't insult the Show era like that. They did not do that.
SPEAKER_04They did not, you're right, you're right. Um, but we'll we'll see. Um I think it's it's pretty confirmed that it'll be Space Godzilla.
SPEAKER_00Um Yeah, there's quite a bit of stuff leaning towards that, but the the the the leak that also said I think like his copyright was purchased, I believe was also by the same guy somehow. Um and also it got deleted, which I don't think you can delete public records. So I think it it may have been whatever site it was, like, oh, this is just false, and they got rid of it. Um, but also I don't know if it said it was bought for film use. If it was, then that's a different thing. But if it just said it was bought for use, like literally a week after that like screenshot came out, uh, Space Gazula appeared in Starship, the the comp one of the comic series going on currently. Um he's like a red and green version of Space Gazula now. So it's like it very well could have just been that. You know, this the comic writers, you know, were like, oh, let's go ahead and purchase it and use it.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00So um, which I mean that I hope it's Maguma. I hope it's Maguma from Gorath. That no one's believing me on it. I just you gotta trust me, a giant walrus. That that's the next big thread.
SPEAKER_04That would be that would be amazing.
SPEAKER_00Um I need I need well I need Maguma to kick ass.
SPEAKER_04But I I think that people would uh I don't think people would be as excited about Maguma. Oh blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_00Some audiences, they can do whatever they want. Yeah, it would be. I'll I will watch the film 20 million times just to fund it.
SPEAKER_04Right. Yeah, you know what? I j just for the absurdity of that type of monster, I'd be there too. I'd be there. You'd be phenomenal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Maybe don't have to be the main villain, but have him appear. I really I don't imagine it's copyright as much. If Lesnar's like, how much? Let Toes be like Two quarters on a popsicle, yeah. Yeah, it's like you can use them. That'd be amazing. A monster versus Maguma.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I mean, we we have Doug, why not like have Maguma exactly?
SPEAKER_00You know, have him Stilla's entire purpose was to keep the ice caps cold. Now she's dead. Have Godzilla go there and awaken Maguma, and he's like some giant 500-meter tall titan, and he's very passive, and he's like, Oh, okay, cool. And he'll just keep the ice caps cold. He's just a gigantic, gigantic walrus. That would be amazing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that would be that would be amazing 100%. Um, I do think that would be a missed opportunity to have it called supernova and not have space Godzilla, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that'd be that'll have to be him or another. Like the only things that Gygan came from space, yeah, but not supernova. He's just he's just there. Like the only supernova kaiju, space godzilla absorb power of nearby supernovas, and Shoah Ghidorah's are stated in multiple guidebooks too. When they're born, they it's like how um the celestials in Marvel are born inside of planets and blow them up. Showa Ghidorahs are born from stars exploding. So, but I really doubt they would have another Ghidorah be that'd be really weird, just off the bat. So I can see Kaiser Ghidorah someday, but not now. So yeah, I feel like it'd be Space Godzilla or their own thing. So we'll see.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. And I I would hope that since they did their own thing for New Empire, that they you know they treat the fans to something. Um because I I think with the crystals and Hollow Earth and everything, I think they they've got that aesthetic where you get something because like I imagine with those crystals, I everybody thinks of Space Godzilla because Space Godzilla's got you know the fucking crystals and everything. So yeah, um, I it's definitely fitting and it's definitely like the obvious choice. Um, but that's interesting that the the rumor about that, you know, them purchasing it that might not even be true or accurate. And if it is, to your point, that might have just been to be like, hey, we're gonna use this for this comic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. I hope if they have Space Guys up, get just while you're at it, right? If you're buying what is likely one of the most expensive Toho properties, like Kaiju, add some little background Toho thing. Skele Turtle, Giant Condor, Maguma, Gabra, get get somebody, just add them just for the diehard fans. Just like, you know, we had T Mot in the last movie uh had um have some other Toho Kaiju just appear for a little bit just because it'd just be hilarious. That'd just be awesome. Yeah, that'd be awesome to see Space Guzzle land and then a monster verse version of you know Kumonga runs away. It's like, oh god, I'm not built for this. Like that would be incredible. Or Kamakarus flying away. That'd be just just something random. Something random. If you're gonna buy Space Gaza while you're at it, you have the budget. Buy buy some other little random one that toes will then sell for like 30 bucks.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, I agree. I it's like fuck it, why not? Um you've literally you've got one of the greatest sandboxes of a franchise to play in. Like utilize the hell out of that.
SPEAKER_00And have some other kaiju fight Space Godzilla first. If Space Godzilla's landing somewhere, Godzilla's not gonna be there instantly. There's gonna be some other Titan nearby. I'm tired of like the Egypt fight. Um I think uh I think it's uh not Binyup. It's there, there's some Titan that's outposts right in Egypt, like like in Cairo. Like not is it, it may have been Cairo, regardless, like 30 miles away. The Rio battle, where's Behemoth? You know, also Rodan is said to have like laid in Rio. Like there all these titans are happening, and there's no none of the other titans that have already been established are there to fight back. I would love to see Space Gail the Land, some setup Titan gets there, of course, immediately gets demolished, but at least show like look, there are titans everywhere, you know. So like it is a monster verse. Everywhere you go, there is a threat of a titan appearing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, that's that 100%. Um I read the novelization of New Empire, and um, I think I also did uh Godzilla vs. Kong, um, just to get some extra little context about some of them. And I know that by New Empire, like there are quite a few kaiju that I think they just killed off. Um, I don't know if that was ever explored in like a comic with killing them off, but I was under the impression that like quite a few of them were just like dead.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's weird because like Scylla got killed off because she was always very she didn't really like Godzilla.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00In Dominion, right after King of the Monsters, after she bowed, she immediately went against the call. Um she fights Godzilla, leaves. There's some other fight that happened that we didn't see, and then in Godzilla X Kong the Hunted, which takes place right before Supernova, I mean uh the Empire, Scylla like absorbs like 30 nuclear missiles, and then Godzilla fights her in Rome and she promptly loses. Right. Um Tiamat really Tiamat did nothing wrong. Godzilla went to her house, broke in, and as we learn in the Kong Survivor Instinct game, she has a kid, Lehamu. So he attacked, she was just trying to defend her house and her kid. Um and but in the recent uh declassified comic, her head is being held in hollow earth and there's zero uh decay, which means her head is still alive, making sure her body doesn't rot. So she's technically still alive, she's just as a head. Um and you can argue Le Hamu got away because in the game, Le Hamu can turn invisible. So it's likely when Tiamat the the fan consensus, and everyone's like kind of mad at Godzilla. The fan idea is like, oh, Tiamat didn't just fight back to like try and you know keep Godzilla out of her house, but to give Le Hamu time to leave and escape. So yeah, Godzilla's in the wrong there. Um but yeah, I mean Scylla was just never listened, and Tiamat's like kind of still alive. So hopefully if they're gonna introduce a kaiju in the new um in the supernova, it's Space Godzilla killing them off just because he's evil, not because Godzilla's like, I don't like you anymore. You know, that's just kind of I feel that's another reason people are more with Kong. Because Godzilla, like, you know, in King of the Monsters in G14, like he was more relatable, right? But now he's just like, you know, he's just kind of egotistical. You know, if you don't listen to him, he's gonna kill you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. They they really they dig into that whole alpha piece of it. Um, and it's like that's why Godzilla and Kong fight each other, because um Kong didn't even want to fight in Egypt. Yeah, yo, yo, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on. I absolutely loved every everything that had to do with the kaijus in New Empire. I loved it. Um everything else I was just like, oh, back to you know, still not liking characters um all that much. But um, yeah, Kong was just like, wait, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
SPEAKER_00The plot sandstorm came in out of nowhere to help Godzilla in the second round. But Kong, he knocked him out, man. He knocked him out. Everybody tries to argue against it. I interviewed Alan Henry, the guy that plays the motion that capture of Kong, and I'm like, oh, that's the script. Did like when you were making that scene, the script, was it like conveyed that Kong knocked him out? I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a brief moment, but yeah, he knocked him out. It's like Kong won that fight, you know, he wasn't even trying. Godzilla ran in there like an idiot, and you know, I love my GOAT Godzilla, but you know, it's good to see him get put on his ass here and there. Yeah, and uh, you know, people online got a lot of Godzilla fans online. No, no, he didn't get knocked out. It's like whatever you gotta tell yourself, did. But, you know, it's I just hope we see Godzilla not as much as like just a raging, you know, egotistical uh, you know, Titan anymore. Because like he he's not much better right now than like Ghidorah. It's just he just likes to sleep. Ghidorah likes to be awake. It's like, but I mean, in terms of Ghidorah killed no Titans, you know, he he he didn't kill anyone except Mothra. It's like Godzilla, he's like, Scylla, I don't like you. You're gonna blow up now. Tiamat, I'm gonna invade your house. You fought against me, you're dead. Majigra in the 2019 uh novelization is like, you're annoying and you're a teenager. I'm gonna kill you. And he killed uh just a random Titan because he didn't like him. It's like you are arguably like worse than Ghidorah right now, dude. You know, like pull it together. Pull it together, especially the alpha. Come on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, unless, you know, unless there's some 4D chess going on and the monster verse is trying to get us um their version of GMK. Where uh maybe if he becomes evil.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I you know, with how it's going currently, I I don't think it's too absurd. I mean, I don't think it'll just become evil, but I think he'll just have like, you know, it's like if you're not gonna it his idea, because like no one's able to challenge him when they don't bow. And it's just gonna keep, you know, feeding into his ego, like no one's able to beat me, you know. If you don't submit, I'm gonna kill you. So I think that could be a way they could go. Um so either fix his character or fully lean into it, you know. Don't like kind of half-ass the whole evil thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, right now, you know, it it seems like it's just like, okay, he needs to have a character flaw, and his character flaw is he's a he's a dick. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it's and who'll wonder why people like Kong more. It's like, yeah, wow, I don't know, because he cares for this human, you know, he knows sign language and the anime, he's able to understand what I what I think is Spanish. It's like it's like he's I mean, the closest to a human. Yep. You know, he's using tools. He he has uh his giant hawk, like Godzilla has Mothra. It's like, yeah, no wonder people like Kong more, you know? Yeah, not because like he's stronger, it's just because like he's not a dick.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. Um, how do you how do you think um Legacy of Monsters would like segue into supernova? Because I know they're probably not gonna do it directly because the time, the timeline, right? But they they've gotta do something, right? Like give us something by the end of it.
SPEAKER_00The the idea me and my buddy have had is we like to imagine since Titan X has Godzilla and Kong mad, that immediately puts Titan X at like an alpha level threat. Like, you know, Mekagadzilla got Godzilla angry, Ghidorah waking up, gotz got Godzilla angry. But even Ghidorah's alpha call didn't bother Kong. He didn't care, he just ignored it. Um, so the fact that Titan X is waking up is pissing him off, is like really telling of likely how strong she'll be. What I really hope, Monster always kills off their villains. I hope they don't kill her off and they seal her back. And what I like to, if I could like, if I could have Supernova go a certain way, have Space Godzilla be, you know, queen Godzilla and Kong, and then it's like we only have one option, and they after they reopen the Access Mundy portals, you know, after closing them, because they close one in Alaska, yeah, and Titan X comes out and like fights. I think that would be awesome. Like have Titan X uh not Titan X, have Axis Mundy play some role in Supernova, right? It's like if you're pulling from space stuff, pull from this area that's like essentially its own dimension, you know? Like time works differently. Um, you know, like there's the the guardian, the Axis Mundi itself, like that, that those two words are it's just like the like um like I made a whole short on this. Um that that the idea of Axis Mundi appears in a lot of mythos, uh such as like um like uh what was it called? The the nine realms, that tree, uh Yggdrasil. Yeah, Ygtril. It's like if they're gonna lean into space stuff, have Axis Mundy play a role. Because it's like that could be a realistic way of having a like space like kaiju, something from like a practical different dimension, you know? So have either have Titan X help out or have Axis Mundy play a crucial role in Supernova. I feel like that would be uh because it seems like they're gonna be really leaning into Axis Mundi this season with Titan X and all that shenanigans. So I think having the whole, you know, mystical other dimension almost like, you know, place play a role with Space Guzzle would make it not as because like you know, we're we're we're out there currently with the Hollow Earth, but it's like going from Hollow Earth to oh yeah, somehow there is a space version of Godzilla, the guy who's lived here on Earth for 250 million years. You know, it's like you know, covert evolution with like different animals looking the same throughout millions of years, I really doubt that's gonna apply to a Titan scale. Um, I think that'd be kind of whack to have to say, it's like, oh well, obviously Space Godzilla was a creature like Godzilla in the same environment out in space. Like that's just that's just too out there. That's too absurd.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I wonder because like what do we get about Godzilla's like family history?
SPEAKER_00Uh there's Dagon. We know the Mudos and the Godzilla species have been beefing for 250 million years. Um there's the axes. But I mean, other than that, I mean the only other one other the only other one we've seen is Dagon just in comics, and he immediately got killed.
SPEAKER_04Right, because I'm I'm thinking like I imagine that they could do something where you had like a relative of Godzilla on Earth and somehow it just like accessed this um the access Monday Mon um Monday point and was lost in whatever dimension and then it comes back and it's like you know it's fucked up or whatever happened to it. Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_00I I feel like that that would be the or maybe get like trapped in the uh it couldn't get out of the um uh because it doesn't seem the time uh warping happens in access money, it seems to be the portals because it's about the portals being like wormholes, and there's a whole study with uh wormhole stuff. Uh sorry, uh it's all good.
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SPEAKER_04Almost give me 10 minutes, okay, buddy? I'm sorry about what we say. It's all good, it's all good, no worries. Um, you could you could keep going.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was just saying, like a Godzilla that may have been trapped in the uh in the portals for a long, long, long time, like mutated somehow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think that I think it would work well in the fact that like I mentioned earlier, just you have the crystals in hollow earth and everything, and you know, I I you wouldn't have to suspend too much disbelief to um to to have that if it's like an OG relative of Godzilla that got trapped in these portals and dimensions and got some crystals in the hollow as well. Exactly. Yeah, I I I think they can make it work like that. Yeah, um, and calling it Space Godzilla, I don't know. I'm trying to think of how a quirky character could come to that title.
SPEAKER_00Um because it like they could say I could see the trapper line now. He was trapped in that space. Space Godzilla. I can already see the trapper line. Right, right. No, they're gonna get a I'm gonna get a cease and desist from Legendary for leaking their their line just now.
SPEAKER_04Right. So um but I am I am getting bothered here. So it's all good. Um to to cap this off, let's um, you know, just talk a little bit about what you do and and what you know plug some of your socials and stuff.
SPEAKER_00Uh to anyone watching, I am Goji Guy uh on YouTube, Goji Guy G yeah, G-O-J-I-G-U-Y. Uh same with TikTok and Instagram. And uh I do a wide range of just versus style content from uh Hey Say Godzilla in the Showa era to our recent video, When to Go in the Ice Age, and then other things such as uh Springtrap, Sci-Fi, um, analog horror, FNAF, some anime content. So, yeah, if you just like versus stuff, uh, check out the channel.
SPEAKER_04Awesome. Yeah, and I I I love watching your content. Um, you know, Godzilla is kind of a niche little fandom to be into. So you you know, always love to see the creators out there. Uh, do you per like do you perhaps write your own stuff or like you have any creative outlet?
SPEAKER_00Everything's everything is I have a script open uh actively uh that's had all the questions I've just copied pasted into it. Um but yeah, from the uh research, writing, um the only thing that I have helped with is art. I have an amazing art team. Um, all of my thumbnails. I I have uh how many different artists? There is Bazarico, Dung, Gigamations, Inc., Sam, Uga, and Willie. Um, and then I have some uh people that help with like animations and 3D models and whatnot. And uh, but yeah, but other than that, all the editing, all the recording, writing, all that is me.
SPEAKER_04Awesome. Yeah. Um, and I I did I did mean like creative writing. Like, do you do you write stories or anything like that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. My uh my most profitable but also most expensive videos to make are my what ifs, where assist essentially we're retelling um stories. So we had like what if Godzilla Evolved in 2019, the one I'm working on now is uh What if Godzilla attacks Skull Island? And so it's just like you know, can Skull Island unite to fight him off and you know his Titans? Um and so yeah, been uh that that is definitely my favorite ones to to write, just telling my own stories there. And uh yeah, that's uh that that those are my my stories and also hybrids, just make my own animals, just like okay, you know, you know, could this gorilla DNA work with this, you know, myelodon DNA and make an animal that could work and yada yada. So right.
SPEAKER_04Love that, love to hear that. Um, but awesome. Thank you so much for joining me. Um big fan of the channel, and yeah, glad you you got to come on here and we could talk some Godzilla.
SPEAKER_00Of course, for having me on.