Today we are honored to be with a special guest, Rosemary Fisher. She's the founder of Recycled Women Ministries, a woman of God. You're highly welcome to the 40 Days of Reconciliation podcast. Thank you, Indianwell. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you. Uh for those who are listening, we're actually transitioning this podcast name. It should be the Ministry of Reconciliation Podcast. Actually, it has already started. So may you have a great time listening to our sister in the road, Rosemary, as she shares with us today. Our main focus is on deliveries. We are looking at breaking generational curses. And before we go there, please would you like to share with us how did you come up with this wonderful? I love this title. Recycled women ministries. Well, Emmanuel, thank you. And I love the name, your name, which means God is with us. So, hallelujah, he's here today. And how I started Recycled Women Ministries is because of testimonies of people being transformed. Basically recycled. Recycling all the trash, all the sin, all the regrets, all the shame. Recycling the junk, the trash, into something beautiful. It's a form of metamorphos, like when a caterpillar turns into a butterfly. And you know, the enemy, Satan himself, wants to keep us in that trash pile. He is so good at rewinding and reminding us of everything we've ever done wrong. And he likes to amplify it and keep us stuck. When Jesus says, give it to me, repent, which means change the way you think about that sin because that means you change. You change because you repent, you renounce it, and then he gives you new life. And that's my story because in church, I never heard a bunch of transformations. I never heard about somebody that got delivered from alcoholism, witchcraft, homosexuality, pornography. I mean, the list is on and on. The church has been shackled in shame because of judgment, instead of saying, hey, that's who I used to be. But let me tell you who I am now because of the power, the resurrection power of Jesus Christ, because I was willing to surrender it to him instead of trying to fix everything by myself, which is a form of pride. And, you know, I was raised in the church, Emmanuel. I never saw freedom in people. I saw a lot of hypocrisy. They say one thing, but then they're on the internet looking at something different. And, you know, and I don't like fake. Uh, I'm far from being perfect. I won't be perfect till I meet Jesus face to face. But showing where God has delivered us to help somebody else out, to give him the glory, that's what Recycled Women is all about. It's about showing that no matter what you've done, you're redeemable. So I have generational sin, a pattern of alcoholism. It goes deep into my father's line. I was raised in a very alcoholic, abusive uh family. I saw a lot of things that little girls and my brother should never have seen because of the spirit of alcoholism. My grandfather, my aunts, my uncles, I could go on. There's a pattern there. And I fell right into that pattern. I've looked to alcohol as an escape. I look to alcohol as a reason to feel better. It brings me out more. You know, the lies of the devil. He's good at lying, he's good at convincing. So I'm the first that was the first in my generation that realized that because I was taught from a good biblical church about generational sins and started looking through my family. That's just one. Another one on my mother's side is a religious spirit. So why are you sick? What'd you do? Or, and you read that in the Bible, how the Pharisees asked Jesus when he healed the blind man, what did he, what did he, what was his sin? What was his parents' sin? And Jesus was real clear that it wasn't none of their sin, that it was for such a time as this for him to heal him, to bring him glory for his healing. So the religious spirit, the Pharisees. So I had the alcoholism and I had the Pharisee spirit growing up. It was a hot mess, brother. Let me tell you. And I was good at both. I could take your inventory and judge you so good. And that breaks God's heart. But I didn't know. It was everybody that I went to church with was in that. We were good at pointing fingers at everybody else instead of taking a personal inventory of ourselves of where do we need to surrender? And believe it or not, I found Jesus in Alcoholics Anonymous, a 12-step program that I finally surrendered to go to, that I heard a lot of people that were Christians that said, you know, my higher power is Jesus. And let me tell you how Jesus used this program to set me free. So with I heard testimonies once a week, and it just made me know that I was redeemable. And so since the church wasn't doing it, I was bringing recycled women to different churches based on what the church needs, or the Holy Spirit would tell me, hey, this church is dealing with pornography, or this church is dealing with alcoholism or whatever it may be. God always supplied me a testimony of freedom, not to glorify the sin, but to make sure people knew that Jesus loves him so much, and we can stomp the devil on his head by truly receiving the love and the forgiveness of Jesus Christ. Awesome. Thank you so much. Uh, first of all, I was thinking, wow, uh you need to start, uh maybe you and your husband, you need to start recycled recycled men ministries. Yes, I'm I'm trying to come up with a good name for that, Emmanuel. So if you could send me a couple thoughts, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. And it's you're tackling a very special topic, uh overcoming, breaking generational curses. Why must we break generational curses? Because if we don't break them, then we're really letting the enemy torture us and we're giving him the glory by staying in that sin that Jesus literally died on a cross and he demolished, and we're we're living in victory through Jesus Christ. But if we stay in that generational sin and we stay there, we're not going to be able to fulfill and really be full of the Holy Spirit to fulfill the plan and destiny that God has prepared for each one of us. You know, in Colossians chapter two, uh Jesus it's quoted that Jesus rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and placed us into his kingdom, which says God's Son's love, placed us in the kingdom of God's son's love. So we're when we receive Jesus Christ as not only our Lord, our Savior, but as our king, a kingdom, he literally takes us spiritually out of the kingdom of darkness and places us into his kingdom. But the flesh from all the stuff that we have done, that has not been perfected yet. And it not never will be completely till we meet him face to face. But in the meantime, he gives us his power, his resurrection power is called dunamis power that raised him from the dead to live in victory. If I'm out drinking all the time, blacking out, saying things, doing things that glorifies the devil, and I say I'm a Christian, does that mean I'm not saved? No, only God knows the heart, but we're not glorifying him and living in the kingdom now to bring heaven to earth in victory to glorify God. And that's up to us because free will, he doesn't force himself on us. But we all have generational patterns, you know, you have to break them. And I am free because I sat down and I literally took Deuteronomy chapter 28 and I wrote them all down of you know, Jesus had Moses up in the mountain. Excuse me, God had uh Moses up in the mountain to read the blessings and the curses. And it basically comes to this hey, if you do this and this and this, you're gonna be cursed. Or you can do this, this, this, and this, and you can be blessed. Your choice. But then at the end, it's so beautiful. He's like, I highly recommend you choose blessings, you know, and that is so cool. So why are we allowing the enemy who we're already victorious over to use these generational curses to literally not only hurt us, but when we stand before the judgment seat of Christ, because there was a book written about you. There was a book written about me before our spirits came to earth. We have each a purpose. We've been given gifts to fulfill that purpose. I wrote a book on that. It's my latest book called The Books Were Opened. We got to have the fear of the Lord. And I don't mean like, oh, he's mean. The fear of the Lord is, wow, you are so awesome. And I know you fulfill everything that you say. You saved me out of the pit of hell. I want to do whatever your scroll has written about me to glorify you. So when I get a crown, I can lay it back at Jesus' feet for dying, such an excruciating death to erase and forget about everything I have done. So the key here is you need to look at even diseases. I don't claim any of diseases that any side of my family have. You need to use now, of course, you need to use common sense. And if you're diabetic, you just stay away from sugar. You ask Holy Spirit, hey, take away these cravings. I can't do it on my own, but I surrender sugar to the throne of God. Take it away so I can take care of my body. And then through Jesus' stripes, I'm healed from diabetes, I'm healed from cancer and walk in that and let God heal you. But we also have to use our free will. We just don't lay back and claim miracles and say it and fake it until it happens. That's not how God works. We need to work with him. And then we're encouragement to other people that he's real. You know, whenever I have to go to the hospital, they found a lump in my breast probably about 10 years ago. And I walked in and I said, Oh, well, God doesn't make me sick, so I must be here to minister to somebody. And I'm asking everybody that's coming, do you know Jesus? Let me tell you my story. And you know what? That lump disappeared within three days. And you know why? Because the enemy wants us sick in the hospital. If we're in the hospital, look for somebody else to pray, pray for. Look for somebody to love on, get out of yourself and focus on others and let God do a miracle in your life. It's powerful stuff if we just read the word over and over and over. Because every time I open up the Bible, Emmanuel, it's like, wow, I can't believe that I've read this 10 times and I got a revelation. And you know, Jesus gave us the keys of the kingdom and he searches our hearts and he will give all of us certain things and revelation that will show you how really it is, and also how he has a plan for each one of us to fulfill according to the gifts that we enjoy to use. He's such an awesome daddy. Wonderful, wonderful. I like your faith. Thank you so much. That is a great testimony. And please, I want to take you back a little. Uh, how did you come? Of course, you were held down uh by uh traditionalism and a religious, what you call a religious spirit. How did you come to get that breakthrough to know this is it? And I don't want to walk in this way ever again. Well, I hope my story will help everyone listening that truly loves Jesus and has a testimony of transformation to invite the worst of the worst to church to hear the gospel because that wasn't my story. I was raised in a very religious, somewhat cult. It's called Jehovah's Witnesses, and they do not believe as Jesus being God. They do not believe in the Trinity. There's a lot, they're great people, they're just deceived. Okay, so I want to make sure that I let you know that. But I was raised up not knowing about the Holy Spirit. I was raised believing there was a God, but you know, Jehovah God, which is one of which is his name, but it was all a lie. It was controlling, it's it's a whole nother discussion for another time. And if anybody's listening that has it in their family, they need to really research the founder like I did, and really read your Bible because their Bible is changing all the time because they want to just be able to tell you why you're wrong and they're right, and it's a cult. So I was raised in that with no freedom. I was raised with believing if I stepped in another church that I it was an abomination and you know, God was mean and he was gonna spank me more or less. So what happened was when I saw the hypocrisy at 14 and I saw people lying all the time, they'd get up there and give a talk, and then they I'd go to their house with their younger, you know, their daughters to play or whatever, hang out, and then to see what hypocrisy that they were totally different in church than at home because I'm the same. I mean, you could ask my son if I'm in a bad mood, which I really am not too often, but I'll bring that mood with me no matter where I go. I don't say, oh, I'm in church, I got to put on a fake face and everything's fine when it's not. I'm really me. So I want to really truly tell people don't be a hypocrite with your kids. They can see it. And I I saw it. I saw a lot of hypocrisy. And I'm like, you know what? I'd rather hang out with the street people that are smoking weed and drinking. And I'm 14 years old. Right, I'd rather hang out with the people because at least they'll tell you the truth if they don't like you than this religious people that lie to you and come to the church acting like they're really good when at home they're totally opposite. So I left the church and I just hung out pretty much with the devil. And you could read my story in the Recycled Women book in more detail because I thought God was mean. My father was mean, he was abusive, and I never saw a, you know, God's invisible. And it it was very difficult for me to even think of a God, the father, who I haven't even seen, but I saw him through the religious people, how he was, and I saw how my father was to even believe there would be or could be a loving, caring, awesome God. And so I ran with the devil. I, you know, I was, I lived like the world because guess what? I was just because I went to church, did not make me a follower of Jesus Christ. You could be in the garage and doesn't make you a car, you know. So we need to really search for the fruit. So my fruit was very, I played with Ouija boards, I got my chart read. So I opened up a portal to spiritual entities that were evil. And you can get that by watching Harry Potter movies, or you got to be really careful what you put your eyes on and open up in your home because there are demons and spirits attached to these things. I didn't know none of this, so of course, my whole life up to the age of 30 was complete. Of course, it's fun at first, but it goes right into destruction, destruction of relationships, destruction of yourself, destruction of your identity, destruction of your heart. And that's exactly what the enemy wants. And at that time, I was a child of Satan because you're either a child of Satan or a child of the most high God. And the only way you can be a child of the most high God is to believe that Jesus died on the cross for you, was resurrected for you, and you believe that he died for you and accept him as your savior and your Lord. Well, here I am. My story's like Paul. I'm very similar. Nobody invited me to church. I worked at a radio station. I found out later there was a whole bunch of Christians that worked there. But I got to a point where I was done. My grandmother committed suicide, my mother committed suicide. That was another generational curse I had to break because I'm like, not me. I'm not gonna do that to my family. I am not gonna do that to my Lord and Savior. But at 30, I didn't know that. At 30, I was done. I was literally contemplating being done. I was done. My whole life was in turmoil. My relationships and was the devil sitting there going, good job, girl, good job. I got down on my knees and I cried out to the God I did not know and said, If you're real, I need you now. In my heart, it was real. I wasn't like this, where one hand wants it and the other hand is like, no, this is my little sin I like to keep. I don't want to surrender. My hands were open. It was a cry of brokenness. You know, God's word says that he's near the brokenhearted, and that's where I was. I was done. I had nowhere else to go. And the Holy Spirit, I didn't know it was the Holy Spirit at the time, but he fell on me and he just held me. It was the most supernatural experience I've ever had. And everybody has their own story. God reaches out to everybody differently. This is my story. And I cried for three days. Three days things were coming out of me, which now I know were spirits because God's Holy Spirit fell on me. When I walked outside, everything was new. The flowers, smelling the flowers. I mean, it was like I was a new creation. I had no idea what happened to me. So I started searching all these different churches, and a lot of them, their doors were locked, and I had to say, let the sinner in. I need to know what's going on. And finally, I went to a good church where the Holy Spirit led me to that shared the gospel of Jesus Christ. And I accepted Jesus right then and there. And then my transformation story began because the people, we, the people, need to be reaching out to these girls that aren't dressing properly and these girls that are hurting themselves. Instead of judging them, at least just invite them. Hey, would you like to come to church? I just want to invite you. And you never know that you could save a little girl like me at the age of 30. Now, no one invited me. God still got me, but it shouldn't have been that way, Emmanuel. You know, I really wish, I don't know who was praying for me. I know somebody maybe driving by and sawing that I wasn't dressed properly. You know, not every girl that dresses uh provocative is truly provocative. Usually it's because no one's really taught her and she just thinks she looks sexy and she has no idea what it's like to dress like a godly young lady. And right again, then we judge. Let's just invite them into the house. Let's let God work on them. Get some women around them that can mentor them and teach them, not judge them, but teach them. Because the Holy Spirit, you know, he took over. And I I allowed him in. I every day I'm like, Holy Spirit, take charge of every area of my heart and lead me where you want to go so I can glorify King Jesus. And you know, it's so fun, Emmanuel. You never know where you're gonna end up and who you're gonna meet. And it's just a such a fun journey because the enemy has no power over me, over you. It's only when we open a door, or if there's something hidden in our hearts, you know, that God's revealing that now you're ready to work on something that I want you to work on because I got another level that I need to take you to, but I can't take you there yet until you deal with unforgiveness, bitterness, um, a hidden secret that you forgot to repent over. I mean, it's numerous, but he's such a good God. The God that I thought I knew was absolutely opposite of everything I do know today. And your testimony, nobody can take away from you. Nobody. And everybody needs to know that you're redeemable. Jesus died for you, he loves you. And man, I'll tell you, once you get that revelation, he'll do certain things for you that you'll know that could only be God. He really does love me. And that's my heart is to see people know that they're forgiven. God doesn't remember it, and we got to quit reminding him. He's already, when we really truly repent and confess, it's down at the bottom of the ocean. So why do we keep bringing it? Could you imagine having your son or daughter come up to you every day telling you, please forgive me for the same thing over and over again? It would just hurt our hearts going, baby, don't you know how much I love you unconditionally? I forgot about that. Quit torturing yourself. And the enemy likes to rewind and remind. So I want to tell every listener if he does that to you and you've repented, if you can't speak it out loud because he'll stop. Father God, I thank you for forgiving me for my alcoholism. Thank you for setting me free in the mighty name of Jesus. And through the blood of Christ, I've been forgiven. And guess what? The enemy will stop. Because you're cleaning and you are saying with your words Jesus Christ, the blood of Jesus has washed me clean. And trust me, he'll come at you at a different angle later. But you got to be straight as Mark. That's how the enemy works. He's like the biggest criminal, the ultimate liar. He's the best of the best in the evil category. But guess what? We got the best of the best in the god category. And we've won. And we got to start walking already in victory. Instead of like, well, I hope I win. We won. Praise the Lord. What a great testimony. And I can say that already God marked you for salvation. And the enemy tried to hide you, but God was so gross. And I I think that's why he did not wait for many people to interfere. He did interfere himself in your life and open your eyes to receive, but not only to receive, but to understand the Holy Spirit. And I think, yeah, you're going to help us. Is it possible for a person to really teach himself? Does it require us to surrender to God in order that the Holy Spirit brings into revelation to us of the things how we need to live with Him victoriously? Yes. You know, the Holy Spirit is our helper, he's our counselor, he's our advocate, and he's a gentleman. And if the flesh, if we feed the flesh more than the spirit, going to church one time a week or two times a week is not going to do it. Every day, every morning, we have to submit to him and ask, Holy Spirit, infiltrate my life today. I invite you in as a gentleman to just tell me what to do. I need you. I want you and mean it. If you don't mean it, not only are you hurting his feelings because he's very sensitive, but he's always will be there. He's our seal, he's our guarantee to salvation. But you know, we have angels that work for us. And I tell the women and the men at my meetings if you don't use your angels, I'm gonna use them. And you should see how fast they're like, I don't want you using my angels, but are you letting the who are you gonna let use the demons or the angels? Because we have demons assigned to us too from the spiritual realm. And I don't want to get too much into that because it's pretty deep, but it's true. And we need to study this to know. So the Holy Spirit's there to just guide us and direct us. And if he's pointing at a sin, like, hey, you said something that you, you know, I have a lot I'm qualified to talk about, but I'm still working through some things that God is working through with me. And hallelujah! You know, the word says that God chastises his children who he loves. And he loves me, he loves you. So when you're getting a little tap, I highly recommend you pay attention to that Holy Spirit tap and fix it right away because if you don't, it's gonna come back around and it may be a higher offense or something that takes longer to forgive. And you really want to grow in Christ and be more mature to go, I gotta deal with this now because I do not want it to stop me from going where God has intended me to go. If anyone out there would like to find more out about Recycle Women Ministries, if you have a story of redemption, I would love to receive it. You can go to my website at www.rosemaryfisher.com. And if you need a prayer request, just type in the contact box. I would love to pray for you. And please, no matter what you've done, no matter what you've said, Jesus loves you and he wants to save you. He wants to place you into his kingdom and get you out of the kingdom of darkness. So I'm gonna go ahead and pray over you. Father, I just thank you for every listener. I thank you for Emmanuel. Father, I thank you for your Holy Spirit. Father, if no one, there's some people on here that don't have a relationship with you. Father, I just pray that they will have a conversation with you and tell you that they believe that Jesus died for them on a cross, that he was raised again, Father, and that they surrender their lives to you. And with a word of honesty and truth tell, Father, that they receive the Holy Spirit and be saved from the kingdom of darkness, and that they can be transformed to look more like Jesus and less like themselves. In the mighty name of Jesus, Amen. Thank you, Emmanuel. God bless you.