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Parents Are People Too

Stephane, Crys Marie, Rissa Lynn Season 1 Episode 17

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Parents Are People Too might be one of the funniest — and most honest — episodes yet.

This episode of the Wholesome Menace Podcast features a special guest: Dawn, the mother of Crystal and Rissa, joining the couch for a raw, hilarious, and unexpectedly deep conversation about parenting, adulthood, accountability, and realizing your parents were figuring life out in real time too.

From  adult and childhood perspectives to forgiveness, grace, and uncomfortable truths, this episode balances real emotion with nonstop laughter and classic Wholesome Menace chaos. Even the editing process had us crying laughing.

Because parents are people too… and more often than not, adult children are still left to reconcile what they experienced.

Real conversations. Real tension. Real comedy.
Just the way Wholesome Menace likes it.

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SPEAKER_06

Hello, and welcome to the wholesome menace podcast. I'm your host, Chris Marie. We got Steph over there, Reese over here, and we have a special guest.

SPEAKER_03

It's Mommy. Happy Mother Day.

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Happy Mother's Day.

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Woo!

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DW, my mommy. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good.

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Yeah. You look good.

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Say hi to her. Say hi, guys. Home to Menace.

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Say hi to her in the building.

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Texas Happy Mother Day.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Mother's Day. Damn. I'm excited. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

This is a special episode because um Miss Don has been here supporting us since day one. Literally. Yeah. Like since the inception of this song. And now she's on the freaking pod.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, welcome.

SPEAKER_02

What the heck?

SPEAKER_06

Thank you. You're here, mom. Guess what else she does? She watches every episode and she likes it too.

SPEAKER_02

She likes the video. Yeah, for sure. Love it. That's really great. How are you doing today? I'm good.

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Never.

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Yeah. That's good. You know.

SPEAKER_05

Take care of it. I do encourage people to watch your show though.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, very cool.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you. We appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, mom. Well, we're gonna celebrate you today. We're gonna talk about parenting today, too. So I'm really happy to have you on because we're gonna have a very unique perspective from the girl's mom. Right. I can't wait.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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My mom. In the meantime.

SPEAKER_06

Our mom. We're sisters. Remember that. Don't forget it.

unknown

Yeah. Heard.

SPEAKER_02

On that note, ladies, let's get into some attitude and gratitude.

SPEAKER_00

This shit I'm in my flow. Forget it, thank you. I'm letting all that bullshit go.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, so last time I did attitude and gratitude, it was a little different, and I think I liked it. So I'm gonna keep that same flow. Okay, and give an attitude. Um the attitude I want to give today is that success is 98% attitude and 2% detail. A lot of people think that success is about knowing the little itty bitty little bitty things, but really it's about your attitude about the thing that you're doing. For instance, me, Risa and Crystal said sometime in October, November we want to do a pod. We've been talking about it for months. But we said we want to do it, and then we sat down and we just bust that shit out.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, we did.

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And then month after month after month of the month, we just show up and we do the thing. And it's because we're disciplined enough to say we're gonna do a thing and then actually put it in the edge.

SPEAKER_04

Right. And we also have to show up for each other.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. And I was thinking about that, and I said to myself, what would give me the best, like I guess, phrase? And this verse from the Bible popped up in my head. It's Ecclesiastes verse chapter 10, verse 19. It says, Through indolence the rafters sag, and through slackness, the roof leaks. And I had to look up those words. I know what indolence means, and I know what slackness means, but when I looked it up, it was like eye-opening. And so indolence is a habitual, often comfortable inclination to laziness, sloth, or avoidance of work uh or exertion. It represents a deep-seated dislike of effort, sometimes like linked with excessive love of ease. It is characterized by inaction or lack of mental or physical exertion. And I was like, damn, we don't do that shit at all.

SPEAKER_06

No, right, at all. At all. I'm sorry, damn. Alrighty, already.

SPEAKER_02

We have to like to make this thing become a reality, to do the things we get still researched, we have to produce.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_02

We gotta show up whether we're tired or not, right? And tired. That's the attitude you have to have if you're going to be successful at a thing. Right. Um, and so the question I had uh was how do we shift the culture of laziness in our like communities? How do you feel like that's ever gonna happen?

SPEAKER_04

I think in order to shift that, people would really have to be doing something that they truly love and are invested in.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's a bar. I believe that too. Yeah. And what if they don't know what they love yet? Yeah, so encouragement, you know, that only goes but so far with some people, but I would definitely say encouragement and knowledge on things that they can do. Resources for sure, resource centers in a lot of neighborhoods that maybe don't have them and figure out how or who can open those up for them.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure. I think for me, even like in my own personal life outside the pod, I find that I negotiable myself a lot.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

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If I say I'm gonna work out, it's 11:30 at night, it's like fuck, I'm tired. Yeah, I could just do it tomorrow and I negotiate the commitment that I made to myself, and then it doesn't happen. Yeah, right. This pod keeps proving to me that if I don't negotiate with myself, this shit happens. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yep. And I hope this this is like a if you guys watch the those of you that do watch us, and it's a lot of you, that you guys see that if you put in work and you don't negotiate with yourself, it's gonna happen. Whatever you could be spelling dirt.

SPEAKER_06

You have what you put out. I buy some dirt. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, stop negotiating yourself, complete the task, and even if you're tired, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you make a list if you have to. For sure. The the feeling of accomplishment or just the feeling you feel after doing some shit.

SPEAKER_02

There's nothing like it.

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Especially that you didn't want to do. Yeah, you know what, goddamn, I got it done. Now I don't have to worry about it. Right.

SPEAKER_02

And this is gonna keep things rolling, even though I got dishes in sick right now. But like washing them doesn't take that long. No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_04

I like wash up additions.

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Yeah.

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I don't mind it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, me too. It's a nice therapeutic practice.

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Because I also like the kitchen to look clean.

unknown

Agreed.

SPEAKER_06

Me too. I know. Mom be tight. I'll be doing it. Me too.

SPEAKER_05

But also, what I would like to throw on that is um modeling, parent modeling or whatever will help a person do what's supposed to be done.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, and parents play a big part in that. You may not think so, but they do. Yeah. How you bring up your child to grow into an adult to learn to model things or you know, do what they want to do instead of procrastinate. Yeah. I have a granddaughter who wants to be an architect. She's in Michael's buying all the stuff already from and she's in what, tenth grade?

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Yeah.

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That's sick. Yeah. You see what I mean?

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She she draw draws so good. Yeah.

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And you know, she's they know I get up and go to work every day at wee hours of the morning.

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We fixing that. We're fixing it. Yes. Yes, she's very clear. Crystal, yeah, with that just like you are. And I was like, Well, my daddy's son.

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There's reasons for that, but yeah, I know, but you know, again, it's modeling. I've worked all my life, and she works just like that. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, don't be lazy, guys. It's like, and you're better for it when you're not lazy. Yeah.

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And then when you do have a lazy day, it's like, fuck yeah, I deserve it.

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You deserve it. I'm right there. Because rest is not doing anything. You can carve out time to just relax because you've done the shit because you've got to do it.

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Go binge watch your favorite show.

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Come on now. You need it.

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You deserve it for sure.

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Love it. That's all I have for attitude and gratitude. I just realized that we're doing something so important. Yeah. We are committed to not negotiating with this.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

On Fridays, we bust it out. Come in on Saturdays, we run the play. So that's just what we do. And that's the attitude.

SPEAKER_06

Tired out. Because no one's gonna do it for us. How about that? How about that?

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And it's really not about the details. It's not like we the the little things take care of themselves. Yeah. Right. That attitudes that we come in here with is what gives the show what it's supposed to get. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_06

Well, you guys see the beautiful details. It's Mother's Day. The shit look good in here. I love it. I love it. Smells good. It's so good. All right.

SPEAKER_02

Doesn't take much. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Lovely.

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Very, very good.

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Now.

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Ready, Lani?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'm ready.

unknown

Bam, bam, bam!

SPEAKER_02

Don't have seen me lose so many times to this TV show.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god.

SPEAKER_06

And I won't have you lose so many times. Actually. And when you get it off the bat, I'm like, wow. And guess what? And guess what mom says every time? You stop. I'm just gonna show you saying that.

SPEAKER_02

It's true.

SPEAKER_05

I'm not doing that. I'm bad with names too, so don't expect me to get any of them. So go ahead. Let's see what you're gonna do. I'll know it.

SPEAKER_02

But uh tell you the name. Did you carry this for a mom?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I did. I don't do it. That's mom. I came here to win. First of all. Should be like this before the show starts. Alrighty. Funny. Okay. Here we go. Two.

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I know that.

SPEAKER_06

You can say it. You're part of it. I don't know the name of this one. Here you go. Junior. We should do the same thing. Hold on. Let me listen. Let me think about it again. I know that. Can you play it again, please? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05

I have a lot of stuff you would listen to. I have a whole list I can give you.

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Yes, please. Why am I not?

SPEAKER_04

Not many rippers.

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It's old.

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It is old for sure.

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Yeah, we're on three.

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We're gonna be on three.

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I know it, but I don't know the name of it. There you have it. Don't feel bad. We're here together. Yeah. I feel like I know the song.

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Yikes.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, for shaft.

SPEAKER_06

Mine too, damn. Um, that would be Love Don't Live Here Anymore by Rose Rod. I couldn't say anything like that. I've been listening to that song for like the last week. Wow. Oh wow. That's a good one. Embarrassing. I'm like, I know this. Dang, mom.

SPEAKER_05

And if the words came out, I would have named it like that. I wouldn't have took that.

SPEAKER_08

You are ending me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no lyrics on purpose.

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Got me good.

SPEAKER_05

Alright. That's a great song. You did it good.

SPEAKER_06

You only get the thing. That's wicked. Yeah, I'm just kidding.

unknown

Alright.

SPEAKER_06

Alright. Now it's time for your movie. Movie. What the top movie? Movie quote. Let's get it. I'm a little embarrassed.

SPEAKER_08

Are you crying?

SPEAKER_06

A league of their own. Oh, that was so easy. I I why did I let him say baseball? What the hell? I just thought about that. But yes, you went. Good job, Reese. Hey Derees, uh quick. As per usual. That's a classic. I need to watch that. It is a classic. Yeah. Tom Hanks. Anything, Tom Hanks. Anything.

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I'm gonna go ahead and watch it. Mila, stop eating the flowers.

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Come on. Damn it.

SPEAKER_02

You're gonna have a fielder after the show.

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All right. Next tune.

SPEAKER_05

Rocco wouldn't even touch it.

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I know the I know the song I didn't know the title though. Dang. Don't look at me. I never know the title.

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I don't know what it is. Don't look over here. Don't breathe over here. What is that song title?

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Oh my god. It's in my head.

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Is it black from us?

SPEAKER_02

I'm just gonna nail my black card from here on out, because you were Ben Foster. Y'all think this thing is easy? It's not as easy as it looks like.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no, because I really not. The other song I would have got off bad if you started singing.

SPEAKER_04

And I know you're at home looking it up probably using that app.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. It probably does not but is it claw?

SPEAKER_06

Got a man!

SPEAKER_04

Come on, I sing it. You should have gave it to me.

SPEAKER_06

You always doing this shit. Yeah. Mom! Tell her stop. Mom's here. I'm telling. Mom's here.

SPEAKER_04

I knew it.

SPEAKER_06

Alright. I actually did three and three. Because mommy's here.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna cook this y'all guys. We'll see.

SPEAKER_06

Goodness. Okay, we got my computer.

SPEAKER_08

Guess what, John? Y'all gonna have to fucking up all my influence? That thing in the wrong.

SPEAKER_02

It's not. You're hilarious, brother. Don't give me a thumb wizard.

SPEAKER_04

That's not waiting in exhale.

SPEAKER_06

That's the what I thought I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_05

Was it waiting in the exhale? Like, yeah. Okay, I knew it was that.

SPEAKER_06

You got it. You should forget your shit that's waiting in. Step on you! Oh that was hard. Look at him. Look at him. Don't don't pout. No, you need to pout an ass nigga.

SPEAKER_02

I'm really good, guys.

SPEAKER_06

Crying ass nigga. Who's he trying to convince? That's hilarious. Trash. Brother, brother.

SPEAKER_04

Oh heavens.

SPEAKER_06

That's some fun shit. Weird.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, hilarious.

SPEAKER_06

Alright. Here we go. Next song. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. I can't mute my computer, guys. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's the BGs. Baby, come back. Yeah, the BGs.

SPEAKER_08

Mom got it. Yeah, she did it. That was something.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

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I got one. Okay. Alright. We got it. We got it. You're lucky because it's my mom.

SPEAKER_06

She still got it first. She did get it first, though. Okay.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Do you guys do another quote?

SPEAKER_02

We got one more.

SPEAKER_06

You got one more? Yeah. Alright, I know I'm not tripping.

SPEAKER_02

Alright. I'm about to listen to that song after this.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And um Left Don't Live Hair. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

This might be might be another song. Just what movie is it from?

SPEAKER_08

We're the joke.

SPEAKER_06

Sister? I wanted to say one or two, but I'm gonna let it rock.

unknown

Damn it. It works, sis.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Good one. Good one. One. Thank you. So I probably should. Yeah, I'm skipped.

SPEAKER_07

I got one. I'm okay.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god, relax. I know.

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It's the things where I get zero that make me really look.

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Yeah, you did good.

SPEAKER_03

You okay?

SPEAKER_02

I'm doing great.

SPEAKER_03

Alright. Is everything alright? You need a break?

SPEAKER_08

Cut the chick.

SPEAKER_06

Got it. So I can pal in the corner for five seconds. Okay. Just breathe. Don't breathe and you got this. You got it. Thank you. Thank you. Steph's. You got it. Up close and personal. Wow. Now. I'm pretty sure they know. It's not the first time. That's crazy. Perfect segment.

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Delusional stuff.

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Welcome to the delusion Olympics. Welcome, Mom. Welcome to the Delusion Olympics.

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You keep saying shit that replies to my life. Damn, guys. A little bit. Goodness.

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Aren't we all?

SPEAKER_02

What you got for us for your result?

SPEAKER_04

Mine is sex. This is a Mother's Day episode. Nice.

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We're gonna talk about the delusions that society's kids, kids' fathers, and even moms themselves believe about motherhood.

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First one. Motherhood is supposed to come naturally.

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Wow. Wow. Delusional. That's delusional. Everybody just doesn't have that. Everybody isn't raised with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Even when they say they plan whatever and think they're ready, you're never ready. You're never ready. You could plan all you want. You're never ready. Let's see.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Delusional. Next.

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I still ain't ready. Nine years later. Ten years later, she ain't ready. Okay. Good moms don't need breaks. Delusional. I'll cry right now. Delusional. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Mothers need breaks.

SPEAKER_06

I lock my kids out of my room. I told you guys this book for you. And they still knock on the door. Yeah, they do. They do. And I'll be like, come back.

SPEAKER_05

Tomorrow. I don't even lock my door. It's so bad that I have to tell my kids not to call me because I'm a supervisor, and when I have meetings, I mean they call me.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I legit caller. I have to put my phone on silent and then I'll text them. Don't call me. I'm going into a meeting. I'm going into a life plan. I'm going into I do it every time.

SPEAKER_06

I'll be calling sometimes. I'll be forgetting. What are you calling for? What are you doing? That's it. What are you doing? Don't want shit. What time are you coming? What? What time are you coming home? I don't know. All right. Talk to you later. Talk to you in five. Hilarious.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

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Next one. You choose to have kids, so you can't complain.

SPEAKER_08

Man. Oh what?

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You should definitely be allowed to voice your opinion. Oh, I believe. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05

I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I mean, they're babies. They grow up to be who they ever they become. Right. They're jerks.

SPEAKER_04

I'm complaining to whoever's gonna listen.

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At the end of the day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You're only human.

SPEAKER_06

Right, right. Yeah, for sure. You're irking my nerves. You know what I'm saying? Or maybe I'm tired today. Like you go make dinner. Make me some too. I can't wait till I was cooking. I can't wait how you're doing it. Yeah, yeah, like dad. I can't wait to see if they can drive and go to the store, so I don't have to drive and go to the store.

SPEAKER_04

That's good.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. All right. Dad's babysit, mom's parent. That's bullshit.

SPEAKER_05

That's factual, but it's delusional because they all say, Oh, yeah, I got to babysit my kids. They're your kids. I am not babysitting. I'm not your baby's kid.

SPEAKER_04

If somebody's saying that, that's nuts.

SPEAKER_06

It's happened. I've heard so many women say they're, oh yeah, he's babysitting the kids. No, they're his kids too. He got them got them kids. Yeah. He got his kids. Right. That's it. Come take these kids. So I can have a break. Keep it. Keep it. See you next month, motherfucker. I'ma just dump Zoe and J right at Doug House. You take them both of them. Take them. That's funny. Strong moms don't struggle mentally. Wrong. Delusional. Absolutely delusional. Yeah, for sure. Call me Tabby Wilson. It's real up there. Help.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

What the heck?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not done. Good question.

SPEAKER_04

Next one. If your house isn't clean, you're lazy.

SPEAKER_06

Delusional. As hell. It's fucking kids. They're kids. That's right. That is they hate to see a clean house. They hate it. They do. Guys, tell us how much your kids hate to see a clean motherfucking house. Yeah. Tell us.

SPEAKER_02

And they won't clean the house anymore.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, God no. No, their legs hurt now. Yeah. And they're so tired. Get up.

SPEAKER_05

Get up. You tell them to pick something up and they're like, my hands hurt.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, well, if your hands hurt, garbage bag is coming.

SPEAKER_05

Garbage bag is coming and then they start cleaning. Oh, sweet.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not even kidding. I love it. I love seeing that black garbage bag right in her hand. She's throwing anything away. She could buy something yesterday. Nigga, she could buy something the same day. That's just on the floor, it's going in the trash. You should have picked it up. I'd be like, hilarious. We're like hiding shit that were thrown away from the kids. So they didn't know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And don't be fine, box. If you want them, you'll clean them. Yeah. That's it. Not when I tell you to clean your hands hurt. Well, they weren't hurt when you played with the first time five minutes ago. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Redick.

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Yeah.

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Next one. Healing moms don't get triggered.

SPEAKER_06

I'm pretty healed. A bitch gets triggered by the kids, by the world.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I'm triggered.

SPEAKER_04

Y'all should have seen me dragging my niece out of the house the other day. 6 a.m.

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Just an FYI. She was an angel this morning.

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Because she wanted Dorito.

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Why was she an angel?

SPEAKER_06

She got up, got dressed, and was no way. You just brushed your teeth, ma'am. You think you're going to school with yeah, like, no way. She wants she wants a bowl of cereal when the bus comes. Now she can't walk all of a sudden. No way! Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Bus driver looking at me crazy. I'm like, if you would only see what we just went through. Right.

SPEAKER_06

When Reesa texts me in the morning before I read it, I'm like, because I usually don't. I just be holding at the time. Exactly. So when she does, and it's fucking six something, I'm like, gee. Yeah. I already know. Yeah.

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My bad.

SPEAKER_04

She really brings me there sometimes.

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I'm like, I'm very sorry she's doing this to you.

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She's got one.

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You can pour it from an empty cup.

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Delication.

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And that's why I lock my kids out of my room. Or I leave them at my mom's and I go home.

SPEAKER_05

So where do I get any peace of mind? Grandma to the rest of you all the time. Yeah, you're the best.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I do try to take the girls. They're on the weeknights.

SPEAKER_05

When they don't get kicked out.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, when they don't get kicked out. When they're not kicked out. Yeah, the best, mom. But um, yeah, they gotta go. For sure.

SPEAKER_05

Get out. Sometimes I need that empty cup.

SPEAKER_04

Some of y'all don't want a mother. You want a martyr.

SPEAKER_05

My mother is a martyr.

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We're not doing that.

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You don't have to sacrifice yourself.

SPEAKER_06

No, you don't. Hell no.

SPEAKER_02

That's that's good. I love those. Yeah, that was really good.

SPEAKER_08

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

And I think that a lot of people don't really recognize how intense being a mom is.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

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Parenting in general, but specifically moms.

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Because dad can be there and they're gonna bypass him and just come beeline it straight for you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So you're dad obsessed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And likewise. Yeah. It's a two-way street for you.

SPEAKER_06

I fucking love you. Yeah, yeah.

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The most. Gotta have you. Fucks.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's all I have for the delusion Olympics. That was amazing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that was good. Good shit, good shit. Don't show off because mom's here.

SPEAKER_02

Actually. Speaking of which, today's main topic is about parents. And the title is Parents Are People Too. The other, it's like maybe two or three episodes ago.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, they're not people.

SPEAKER_02

And it was so intriguing because it's like, damn, I never thought, and this is the premise. I didn't understand my dad until I became a dad.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't get it. And I'm an adult now. And now I see a lot of the limitations, or we couldn't do it, or life is happening. Yeah. Right. I see it now. And so yeah, you're right. They maybe I didn't see him as a person when I was five, six.

SPEAKER_05

You guys, you're just gone to mold. That's just mommy. We're just here to take care of your issues. Yeah. Yeah. You know, honestly.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_05

When you're young, you're looking at us to handle whatever's going on. Well, they're older, they still look at that. I'm still gone.

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I'm 37. Mama, mommy.

SPEAKER_05

Right. Yeah. And that's just what it is. You guys, you know, I didn't have that opportunity. My mom died when I was like 21. Yeah. No, 23, because I had Sheresa then. And my life was so busy with her being in the hospital with her health issues, and my mom dying. It was just a whole bunch of stuff going on.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um, but I didn't I didn't have my mom to fall back on, like a lot of people do, or the mom to help with things.

SPEAKER_06

You know, I just I didn't have to babysit your kid. Or to babysit my kid, you know, it was me and my sister. That's who it was. How did you feel, like, as a person? How did in if you as a new moments as a daughter? What were your thoughts? What were your feelings? Well, of course I was upset, I was sad, I cried a lot, I was returning things to the store, but on top of that, the only thing that kept me busy was Sharesa because she was going through all her medical stuff still at that point.

SPEAKER_05

She was not even a year old.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And still in the hospital like every other week and heart failure. And so I'm running back and forth there and got her thinking I'm not even caring about her because I have to deal with her. She's two, she don't understand. They were 17 months apart. They're 17 months apart. So she didn't really understand that at the time.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, and I'm leaving her with people so that I can be with her in the hospital. It's just a whole bunch of stuff.

SPEAKER_06

And so what I'm kind of going through with the girls and not being there, you went a little through guilt tripping with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look, we never really talked about that. Yes. Yes, I'm crying. But I know, I know I did that. I didn't do that to her. Yeah, but that's it. I didn't have a choice. Right. You know what I mean? I didn't have a choice. And my mom was very ill, so she couldn't even take care of it. She was she basically became Corey's other daughter because that's what it was.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Wow. And me, I love the full circle of now. I'm a mom. Right. I'm always away from my kids because I'm always at work. I remember her bringing us to work with her 5:30 in the morning. You know, and yeah. I just remember things, but yeah, it's just the comparison and the cycles. Yeah, it's crazy. Which we're trying to find.

SPEAKER_02

Can I ask you a question, Lady Risa? Or Lady Crystal and Lady Risa?

SPEAKER_07

Yes. Um.

SPEAKER_02

Do you find like there was perhaps some? I don't know if for sentments the right word, but for lack of a better word. I'm sure Crystal had some.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Until she understood. Wasn't there? Do you feel like you had some of that built up?

SPEAKER_06

I had a lot of shit built up from a lot of things. Um, I did for a long time feel like, you know, Reesa and my mom were closer, and they are. They are closer. I've always been, that's not for anything specific other than I've always been okay being alone. And it's not because I don't want to be with them. Like I stopped sleeping with my mom at a real early age, sleeping in my own bed, stuff like that. Reesa slept with her forever. I had to tell Tracy you're 13 now. Get out of my bed.

SPEAKER_08

Okay. Like, are you kidding me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Are you kidding me? She is crazy. Like the whole bed's my get out. Who else do you think is gonna be in here? Right. But um, yeah, she ain't lying about that.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I had some just as like a teenager, my dad wasn't there, so I'm angry about that. So, in some senses, even though I was okay being alone, that feeling of alone is just like a whole nother monster. Like, damn, my dad's not here. But big picture, I know my mom loved me, and I know she did, you know, where you question, I question that with Verge because he wasn't around.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because I felt like more of my resentment, if anything, came from my dad not being there. Not because I wanted him to be there, but because I knew my mom needed help. Yeah. And she was struggling and had to do everything on her own. So it's like she can't even get the chance to fucking relax because you're not helping her the way that you should be.

SPEAKER_06

I remember I asked him for some sneakers one time to give me some sneakers, and he was like, Oh, okay, Jamal, doing what your mom, Nicole, if you know me, I lost it. Don't you even don't even say your mother, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, no, nigga, you do it. How were you feeling during that time when you felt like I mean you obviously thought you know you weren't there a lot? Do you feel like do you sense that?

SPEAKER_05

No, because I was so caught up in her having heart surgery after heart surgery after heart failure. And here she is, 36. And I'm still going through it. Yeah, you know what I mean? I'm not even trying to be funny. I'm just real. It's a real people have to understand some real life things. She did get a heart valve, it lasted 30 years. Ever since then, she got a new one, it's been nothing but problems. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But the doctor told me during her first 30 that she would definitely have to have another one because she had like a leakage and stuff. So I didn't know it was gonna be at 30 years old. Like 30 years later.

SPEAKER_05

I thought maybe 15. You know what I mean? But no, 30 years later.

SPEAKER_06

I did good.

SPEAKER_05

And she did, yeah. And that's I just want you guys to know that is me having her bring, they bring her right in from, you know, they bring her to the nursery, whatever. She comes, they come back and said, you know, she started turning blue, blah, blah, blah, blah. And people probably don't know when babies are born, there's like a hole that opens up from for blood to flow from the heart to the lungs. And hers did not.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

So they had to go in and put a uh right ventricle shot in there. And tell me, now here is my child, one day old, yeah, homebugging. Going in and have it, right? Heart. Well, I did it wasn't bugging, but you know, I was, I don't know, I was lost.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And then tell me she's got a 20% chance of living.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So that right there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And on top of all of that, and that that was the biggest thing, because for me, it didn't really, you know, my life is whatever.

SPEAKER_05

I was hemorrhaging so bad, didn't even know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean? I got a nurse in there holding my hand, she's ready to cry, doctor pushing out my belly, pushing out all the blood, excuse me, I'm sorry, but pushing it all out. Yeah. I ain't feeling it. I ain't feeling the damn thing because I had a C-section, but she's thinking that I'm in so much pain. She thinks I'm in she thinks I'm in so much pain. And I'm like, are you okay? You know, but yeah, are you okay? Because you're supposed to be helping me.

SPEAKER_04

Right, right.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_04

But she was probably like sad because she's like, but I I lost so much blood, and they were taking me to see her.

SPEAKER_05

I passed out in the bathroom. It was a whole big thing.

SPEAKER_04

Wow. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And and on top of that, let me just give you my little seven-day span.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I'm taking her every day to my mother's house. Now I had a sneak sex. Remind you, I'm not supposed to be up and down the stairs. We lived upstairs. Nope.

SPEAKER_05

I'm down the stairs taking her to my mother, going to see her, and the one day decided to just stay home and take a minute for myself and rest. Something blew up in the restaurant downstairs in a Chinese restaurant and the house caught on fire. And I had to leave with her. Yeah, this is my whole week from day November 10th to November 17th. And she was due on the 17th, but I had around 10th. And that whole week, that was my life.

SPEAKER_06

Then I had to go stay with my mom, and it was just a whole mess.

SPEAKER_02

It was a Chinese food.

SPEAKER_06

I don't eat Chinese food, so I can tell you.

SPEAKER_02

There we go. What a waste.

SPEAKER_06

That was my whole week of my life.

SPEAKER_05

Now, this one here, when I had her, she just had her days and nights mixed up. No issues whatsoever. No, I'm sick. I think I brought her home and she slept the first night, and after that, it was 2 p.m. to 2 a.m. and I had to be to work at 6. Thank God for my mother-in-law.

SPEAKER_06

Shout out to Greenwich.

SPEAKER_05

For her, because it was just that was yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And till this day, say, till this day, yeah, I don't sleep. Absolutely. I refuse. I'm forced to sleep. Yeah. By my body.

SPEAKER_03

I'm going to sleep.

SPEAKER_06

So it was a rough time. I didn't have my mom, so God bless the ones that do, and treat her good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, cherish her if she's good, a good mom. Because I ain't too many of them out there. For sure.

SPEAKER_02

I say this all the time. My mom died when I was two years old. So for me, it is, I think, more devastating for a parent, for adult children to have their mother than she passes away. Yeah. That is something I don't think I can ever imagine. Right.

SPEAKER_06

It's not happening. And so on that note, for sure. On that note, I and people might say it sounds mean, but I say it and I've said it. I've told her. I've told her. If it if it came down to Sherissa having to pass, I would have rather her pass when she was a day old as two of you. Yeah. Yeah. Because now she's invested in my entire life. Now I know her.

SPEAKER_05

For sure. No matter she was my child, and I get that. Yeah. But a day old as opposed to now.

SPEAKER_06

Can't be without you.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_06

Right. And it would have hurt.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Either way. Now is now is yeah. So people just have to kind of understand that and understand what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

Go love on your mama.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Yeah. I love your mom. I love you guys. Right. I adopted a son here. Yeah. Um, as as as far as you know, being a mom or having a mom, and my mom was very ill. Yeah. And uh, yeah, so I didn't get that. You know, my Aunt Diane, she was like my second mom. Oh, Aunt Diane, we love you. We love you. She was always there for me.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

You know, and and on top of that, my grandmother was still living. So my grandmother has to chip bury a child. Yeah, that's crazy. And she did not shed a tear in front of us. She held it, then that's deep. Well, you do that. Yeah. Sometimes she'll cry. She'll cry over a Hallmark movie before she'll show a nigga some emotion. I'll take it back. She's like, it's beautiful. She's gonna be like, are you crying? I didn't do it for Kate. Yeah. That is funny. Hilarious. Somebody gotta be strong. Somebody gotta saying I'm not strong because I cry?

SPEAKER_05

No. No, I just said that today. I said she's a tough girl, but she cries about everything.

SPEAKER_06

You can't tell me anything. Right. I'll cry. I did. I cried right now. I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_02

You know, just the lessons I'm learning is that even as an adult now, you know, you your parents are people. They were people when we were kids. Right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

They had their own goals and dreams.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I went to Canada to see my dad, and um I see him trying to live out his dream like he's been trying to live out for the last 30 years. Oh wow, and for me it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no, I see you, not dad. Not dad, right. Right, the man that you are.

SPEAKER_02

Precisely, and that's beautiful. You gotta give them some grace when you see that, right? And not let the resentment of you didn't go to the football thing. Right, right. Right. That goes to you as an individual. Um, and that's been a challenge for me, to be honest, because you want to hold on to that. Me, me, me, me, me, but not a kid anymore.

SPEAKER_06

That's right. I haven't, I really haven't been that way. Like, because even with my mom, like I I felt like she was so busy, and there were times where me and my sister just kind of had to do things on our own, figure things out on our own. But it's like I would always think back to the fact that she lost her mom when she was 23 as a kid. You know what I mean? Like me at 36 now, looking back when I was in my early 20s, like I was a kid still. So she what was she gonna have to go on? You know what I'm saying? She's still learning as I'm 36 with three kids, and I'm still learning them every day. Like, we're all still learning. Yeah, even yeah, yeah, but even I used to be like, well, I still get upset about it sometimes, but like mom's not super affectionate, you know what I mean? I I'll admit that I'm not sure. Yeah, and she's not, and it used to bother me so bad. Yeah, but doesn't mean I don't love you. I know, doesn't mean and I also think about though how you grew up, things you went through, and like people don't always think about it, but a lot of shit from your childhood does carry into adulthood.

SPEAKER_02

Uh actually, one of the questions I had, I'm glad you said it, was does um your does your understanding of your parents make it easier for you to forgive them for those areas where like you feel like different drama or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Even my dad, but yeah, the shit that I know that he's gone through or has seen, like even living in Guyana, like things that he's told us about are just like heartbreaking. So it just kind of gives you a perspective on why he isn't showing or hasn't shown up the way that I believe his dad wasn't really in his life here. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he wasn't something, and then losing his brother. Yes, he lost his brother. Yeah, you know, it can definitely dull your emotions, and and that is understandable.

SPEAKER_02

For sure, for sure. But yeah, I I I'm definitely learning to not just forgive my dad, but learn to love him as a man.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Even now, like I said in my in the last episode, I want to be a good son. Yeah, I want my sons to be right, you know, super attached and close to me. Like I don't even know what that looks like. So now I'm training myself and living that life where I'm giving him a call and asking him a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05

It's never too late. Yeah, never too late.

SPEAKER_02

Never too late. And that's the what I want to encourage you guys who are listening and watching this. These are your parents, they birthed you, brought you into the world, especially if they love you. You gotta tap in and see if they're about uh for yourself, not just for them, because they're gonna you're gonna turn 32 one day and realize, damn, you're a parent too. Right, you know, and you're a person who wants to be loved and related to and all the things, so especially with your kids, yeah. For sure. God forbid Wellington and Weston don't want to talk to me. I might lose it. Right. Well, that'll never happen because you're a good dad.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, there's no way you're a good dad. There's no way my dad didn't take care of us either, and I have another sister who thought he took care of us and not her, so I had to kind of break it down to her. Like, he didn't take care of us either. Moved back from Puerto Rico and lived with me.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, right. Came to see if you could live with me. And that's because mom's a good lady. Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Also, that's funny you said that, you know, you kind of see that you're working a lot and it's there's like a little mirror there. Yeah. That's happening a lot. In my own life. Like when my dad my mom died when I was two. My dad raised me, my younger sibling. By himself. And I see not history repeating itself, but now the rhythm is the same way. It's doing the same thing. And you've got you're forced with, okay, damn, how did this nigga do this?

SPEAKER_06

Right. Yes. And make it look so easy. I wonder.

SPEAKER_05

Pyrrhon is never easy. You just do it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But you know how somebody can do a thing and make it look and make shit shake because they're not complaining. They're just holding it down and getting it done. Make it look amazing.

SPEAKER_02

I've ever had my dad just put some shit in a pot, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I find myself, damn, I would like to have some of that in one. Go into the grocery store. I remember eating that when I was like six, half, seven years old. I don't know. Yeah. Those are the types of things that I remember.

SPEAKER_06

Like, you know, having in my always thinking about when my grandma used to, like, anytime we were with her, just throwing some shit together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. For sure. Well, that's all I have for our main topic today. Listen, go love on your parents, their people, too.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Not aliens. Um just because you were a kid and you didn't get what was going on, don't understand why you lived there or why you couldn't afford the best things doesn't mean that there wasn't a purpose in that. Right. Um, and your parents couldn't have to be able to do that. Believe me, we couldn't afford nothing.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Right. So thank you for coming to the pod and expressing the chilling. Yeah, mom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It was awesome. That was definitely a little healing. I feel like we could talk about so much for a day. Yeah, for sure. For sure. But we'll save it. We'll have mom back on. She's the specialist of guests. You treat her right. I make shit happen. Yes. Uh fuck yeah. That's what I'm learning to do. Yeah. A little sloppy with it, but trying to figure it out.

SPEAKER_02

You're doing good. That's your legacy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I don't even realize it. I just knew it. Yeah. Super lady.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

All right.

SPEAKER_03

Now it's time for.

SPEAKER_06

First of all, now you can zip it. You want to be all enthusiastic about your guys' segments, but when it comes to mind, you've been getting real down, fucker. And I'm sick of it.

SPEAKER_02

Come for me. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_06

I don't come for you. And I even had the wheel. Nigga, I ain't controlling the wheel. If you pick your name, it's picking your name.

SPEAKER_05

I'm so happy she got that wheel. I told her to get that.

SPEAKER_02

I do like the segment.

SPEAKER_05

Because when my friend has it for like you to win the prize, I said that's what they need.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's cool.

SPEAKER_06

And actually, I'm switching hot seat up today. Okay. So you can look at this. Now look, now he's happy. Yeah, switch it up. Stefan's not in this segment. I'm just kidding. Um, so what I did was I made two wheels, which you guys will see it on here. Um, one with our names and one with a word. Cool. So when it lands on the word, and if it lands on your name, you just put the word in the sentence. Okay.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Go from there. Sounds good. Are you smarter than this is greater? Shit, I'm gonna be the one like, uh, let me take a I kept this one real cute because it's a Mother's Day episode, and I wanted to kind of do some uplifting words for our mothers, and nice, you know, I just thought that would be cool. Very good. All right. And the word is resilience.

SPEAKER_04

I have found that through my journey with heart disease that I am a very resilient person.

SPEAKER_06

Love that.

SPEAKER_07

I like this game.

SPEAKER_06

Rita and the word patience.

SPEAKER_04

This is perfect.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, this is perfect for her. Yeah. I do find that even in some tough times.

SPEAKER_04

I have a lot of patience with the kids.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I agree with you.

SPEAKER_04

I have none.

SPEAKER_06

You do, yeah. Absolutely. Congrats. Thank you. You don't deserve it anymore.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. That was good.

SPEAKER_06

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04

The kids deserve some grace.

SPEAKER_06

I'm the winner. It's me. My word is wisdom. Through my life choices and experiences, I have gained a lot of um God damn. Wisdom. I have another word I want to say. See? See? It's me.

unknown

Oh god.

SPEAKER_06

Wisdom's a word. Wisdom's a word. Oh my god. Wisdom's your word, so you say it. Yeah. But it was okay. I get it. Wisdom. All right. Last one? No, we all go.

unknown

Woo!

SPEAKER_06

And the word identity. Oh boy. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_03

Make it good.

SPEAKER_06

I have many identities. You know what? I ain't motherfucking surprise.

SPEAKER_03

I ain't surprised.

SPEAKER_06

I have many identities.

SPEAKER_05

I'm a supervisor, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother.

SPEAKER_06

She's surprised.

SPEAKER_05

And I gotta show out for all of them.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. She's a ninja. You show up a hundred percent for them. Yeah, I have to do that.

SPEAKER_06

A thousand. Yeah.

unknown

Very good.

SPEAKER_02

Ask anybody she knows.

SPEAKER_05

I just do it. I don't even have to do it.

SPEAKER_02

I obviously authentically in all of the things. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's I just do it. Yeah, for sure. You know? I love that.

SPEAKER_06

You just gotta be positive.

SPEAKER_02

Awesome.

SPEAKER_06

Woo, mommy. Woo! And nurture. Oh, I nurture my grandchildren. I nurture my children. Put it in a sentence, Mom. Don't ruin our don't ruin this. That's the sentence. I like to nurture y'all.

unknown

Y'all. Y'all.

SPEAKER_06

Y'all.

SPEAKER_08

Y'all.

SPEAKER_06

Y'all. I like to nurture y'all. It just comes naturally, actually. Y'all punk ass kids. They love it. They love when I nurture that. I like it. This is cool. That's a pretty good game. I like it. This is cute. I need I need to hear. I need to hear it. Oh sorry, I didn't pick the word. Sorry, Seth. We comment for you. Yeah, for sure. Chris. And discipline.

SPEAKER_08

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_03

I'm a I got sound bite that.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Discipline. I will have great success through self-discipline.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Good one.

SPEAKER_05

That's what I was hoping you were going with.

SPEAKER_03

You've been doing very well. You've been doing very well.

SPEAKER_05

Take a try.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Because I'll be like, call out of work.

SPEAKER_06

And I'll be wanting to so bad. I'll be like, all right.

SPEAKER_05

And then me, I'll be like, they didn't give you a job for nothing. They gave you jobs because they needed you for work.

SPEAKER_02

Then you're also greater than me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

She is.

SPEAKER_06

Woo! Staff. Let's go. Sacrifice.

SPEAKER_02

As an adult, I have come to appreciate my dad's personal sacrifice. I like that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I love that you got to see your dad.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, me too. I love that man.

SPEAKER_03

He called me like, I love my dad. I'm like, I love that for you.

SPEAKER_02

I really love him. I saw that little old man in the yard. Yeah, he's adorable. That's so awesome. I love him. A little light-skinned man. Alright, so here's the transparent truth. I grew up saying I never wanted to be like my dad. Yeah. Yeah, you want to be like we are. Yeah. That's not so bad. That's not so bad. I'm not saying he doesn't have things that he needs to be held accountable for. We all do. Alright, crush. But I like so.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm grateful for raising me, my brother. And I wouldn't be the man I am today if it wasn't for him. And he can die knowing that he did his job.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You're cool. So we're good. Thanks. Shake my hand.

SPEAKER_06

Oh well, that's all I got for uh hot tea today. I like how that looks good. Fucking questions. I like that. We're gonna start doing that. And I know you like words.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Yeah, that's great. And I like to think, even though it hurts sometimes. But here we are. It's crazy. Like all she does.

SPEAKER_08

Like all she does. Because it hurts. Now that's you rather.

SPEAKER_04

Well, as a matter of fact, I would.

SPEAKER_06

Me too. Zoe's always texting me.

SPEAKER_04

Would you rather? We used to play that game at dinner, like me and the kids. Every time we sat down at dinner, I was like, Would you rather this? Would you rather that? They go around the table and ask.

SPEAKER_06

So I would rather stink. I just love that. This is my segment.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Would you rather be a rich absent mom or struggling present mom?

SPEAKER_05

Struggling and present.

SPEAKER_06

I mean to be rich. I gotta be rich and absent. Okay. You be rich and absent, and we'll be present, and then we'll just come see you. And then once we're once we're rich, and that's the shit that scares me. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna but talk about it. I think about how much I work, how much time I'm missing with the kids, and eventually the shit'll start paying off. Yeah, because it will. Yeah. I just think about like if I something happens one day, and while I'm in the middle of this, and I didn't spend that time with my kids, and I didn't get where, but I don't I push those thoughts out of my mind because that's not even a possibility in my world.

SPEAKER_02

I don't let they see you, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

They do, they do, and they love you forever. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, God. Actually, obsessed with you. Yeah, for sure. But she is I just think she's obsessed with me too, though. I've been so present. Like I I love it.

SPEAKER_04

And you know, I'm we do sports and even like just being able to hang out with the my twins separately, um, because we watch our shows together or movies or whatever, like I said before, and it just is so nice to kind of sit down one-on-one with each of them and have separate conversations and see what's going on in their lives and stuff like that. So I love that.

SPEAKER_07

That's good.

SPEAKER_06

Next, have a helpful co-parent you can't stand, or a loving partner who does nothing. First of all, I'm not loving no nigga that ain't doing nothing. What are we talking about? Nothing. Yeah, get out. And if I can't stand you, you gotta go too. No, I can't stand my baby daddy, but I love him and we're co-parent. Well, that's that's yeah, I guess. I guess you're right. I'm sorry. I didn't look at it. Sorry, Doc. I can stand you, I can stand you. I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I miss you.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't think about it like that. I'm thinking about we live together. No, no.

SPEAKER_06

So this is a helpful co-parent you can't stand, or a loving partner who does nothing.

SPEAKER_04

If you're not helping me with the kids, you're not helping me. You're not supporting me that I need you to. So I'll take that co-parent. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Get out.

SPEAKER_05

Speaking of it's okay to go bear it.

SPEAKER_04

Al drove me and Brielle down to Manhattan the other day for Brielle's appointment, and it was just very nice.

SPEAKER_06

Like just a nice ride. Um, long.

SPEAKER_04

It was a very long day though, but it was just nice to be able to do that and um and him be there for that too. Just to kind of see what that's like for me um and the kids, because they all have their cardiologists down there. But um, yeah, it was nice, and I appreciated him for bringing us there and back.

SPEAKER_03

Awesome.

SPEAKER_06

Next one raise respectful kids or emotionally intelligent kids. Both of them? I want both. Both. Both.

SPEAKER_02

If I would pick one, I would pick emotionally. Emotionally intelligent.

SPEAKER_06

Because that's gonna come with right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

I love that. Next one. Would you rather be needed 24-7 or left alone too much?

SPEAKER_03

Needed 24. I want you to want me.

SPEAKER_02

I need you to need me. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah. Yeah, please. Well, at the same time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, everybody's stressed by having these kids in this house. I bet. I bet.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Even like when my twins are with their dad for the week and Bree's like, Who can we send over?

SPEAKER_05

We got five. Who can we share?

SPEAKER_04

Bree's like, can you come get me? And I just want you want to be like, I'm coming.

SPEAKER_06

He be like, now the one time do you stay with her, Pappy? Yeah, that nigga called me like she keep she crying. Oh, I'm coming. Bye. Don't even worry about it. I'm away. Take this bowl off. I gotta go. Yeah, I'm gonna get my baby.

SPEAKER_03

For sure. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I'd rather be neither. Yeah. Last one. Would you rather lose yourself in motherhood or never fully connect to your kids?

unknown

Losing.

SPEAKER_06

Losing myself. I'm down the rabbit hole. I'm in there. I'm not gonna lie. I be trying to get about that motherfucker sometimes. I'm in there. Slap my ass and call me Alice. Because I'm in Wonderland. Slap your ass. Alice didn't get her ass slapped, did she?

SPEAKER_04

She's in Wonderland. No, but she's in. She's in there. She went down slapping the hole. She went down the rabbit hole, right?

SPEAKER_06

Don't say slap your ass in front of mom. You over here saying other things. We're not there. Mom, I said fuck.

SPEAKER_05

We say fall. You're grown. You're grown. Oh god. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02

Can I ask a question?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The maybe because I'm I'm a father, so I don't see it from that perspective. I don't know if men get lost in fatherhood first.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

I know a boy. Can you kind of unpack what you mean by lost in love? Because I've seen someone go into like postpartum. I've seen things like that. So what do you mean by lost in mother's life?

SPEAKER_06

You can go into that. And I wanna answer because I'm kind of like seeing it real life right now. Um someone that I'm talking to right now, he has a few kids and they had um a Bring Your Kids to Work Day. And he basically didn't eat his lunch because, god damn, no, but he basically didn't eat his lunch because the kids were just doing the things that kids do. And I'm just like, dang.

SPEAKER_03

Tell them to sit down and I'm gonna eat my lunch, and then we're gonna continue.

SPEAKER_06

But to me, that's a part of him being lost in father in fatherhood. Broke his uh shoulder.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sorry, honey, I'm telling all your business.

SPEAKER_06

But broke his shoulder and is getting the kids back to the house, getting them in the house, shit just dangling. Yeah, and the kids are whining about something, he's still taking care of that. Yeah, and then his daughter was mad about something. Well, just come to the ER with me. No, you're gonna sit here with your grandma. Yeah, you gotta stay with your grandma.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I got that. I do, I mean, I guess what in saying that, I do understand like how somebody can get lost in fatherhood.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I also just enjoy running around after my kids.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like that's my loss in.

SPEAKER_02

I'd be interested to see if he feels like he's lost, though.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so maybe I shouldn't speak for him. And when I say that, it is forgetting to do things for yourself and take care of yourself. Yeah, okay. That is what I think about with getting lost in parenthood. Yeah. Some weeks are like that for me, yeah, honestly.

SPEAKER_04

Like this last week, it was all three of my kids' birthdays, and like no shade, but I like couldn't wait for it to just kind of be done and over with because I was so exhausted, and I'm like, I I can't like I'm used to being at home cleaning up my room and things like that, and I just didn't get to do that, which is fine.

SPEAKER_06

Um kids' birthdays are back to back, yeah. Literally two days apart. Insane. Um, but um, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It I I do understand that perspective as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04

That's good, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Lost in fatherhood, lost in motherhood.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, not always a bad thing, but just remember to take some time for yourself. Yeah, stop and smell the roses, and I know it's easier said than done for some people, yeah, for sure. But even if that looks like locking yourself in the bathroom, your room, whatever, for fucking 10 minutes a day.

SPEAKER_02

Decompressing in the car before you walk in.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah, crying in the car. Don't cry to car, don't cry in the car. Or do you care?

SPEAKER_04

We're not judging you.

SPEAKER_06

No, I cry in the car. We're just cutting in and talk to talk for shit. Yes. I'm exhausted. Sure.

SPEAKER_08

Now it's time. Now it's time. My mommy, do you gotta be a good one?

SPEAKER_03

Happy Mother's Day one more time.

SPEAKER_06

My mommy stupid. That would be Gia guys call me stupid. Happy Mother's Day!

SPEAKER_03

My mom.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I asked Ru. I said, Do you know what I do for a living? She said, Shop. I said, get out.

SPEAKER_02

I had to. All right. Go to your bed, Ny.

SPEAKER_06

Leave alone. Leave the fuck alone. Take a dump right there, Nyla.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna talk my chest. I truly, truly, truly got it for us today.

SPEAKER_02

This animal is my I love her down. But she does things that truly make zero sense with her trained ass.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. I was just telling mom when we got here. She's like, I'd be so scared she'd run in the in the road. I said, Mom, she is not as stupid as she acts. Oh my god. Right.

SPEAKER_02

That door wide open all day and she'll lay in her bed. As long as you're here. As long as I'm in the building.

SPEAKER_03

Let that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_06

Three times this year, guys. Crazy. She's been to the barber. Only April. She's gotten a haircut. She's gotten a tattoo. What's the other one? Groceries?

SPEAKER_02

I don't remember the other one.

SPEAKER_06

It's just Yeah, she's been around. That baby gets around. Yeah, for sure. And you know what, bitch? I'm gonna get tatted today.

SPEAKER_04

You see her out in them streets, you mind your business. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And so she's a nice little dog. Everybody knows she's right.

SPEAKER_02

She's uh, you know, I love you, dog, but she just gets on the very if there was the last one, she gets on it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, fuck.

SPEAKER_02

She knows better.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_02

She knows better.

SPEAKER_04

And look it, she knows you talk about her.

SPEAKER_02

Knock it off, though.

SPEAKER_04

Knock it off.

SPEAKER_03

Put the put the camera now. She's waiting for me.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_06

You're talking about me? No.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Let's relax. That's my software.

SPEAKER_06

Nice. Who's next?

SPEAKER_05

I got something to talk about.

SPEAKER_06

Oh mom, please do. We want to hear it. You know.

SPEAKER_05

I just want to say you landlords need to stop running people's credit to get an apartment. The credit score does not pay our rent. Dead ass. Like it makes people not want to apply. You want to charge people for applying and then tell them no because their credit score is 618. Yeah. 615. It's not at a thousand. Well, it never will be.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_06

I'm so serious. Like, that is just ridiculous. We're the only place that does that shit. Yeah. It's insane. Like, it's not just not right.

SPEAKER_02

Credit score.

SPEAKER_05

How come you're telling me I've been living somewhere for four years? You don't think I was living there four years not paying rent? Right.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_05

Like, it's insane.

SPEAKER_02

The housing situation is a shit show to begin with. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

And then you're literally asking for somebody to be able to pay seven times the rent for a fucking economy innovative since 1798.

SPEAKER_02

The house is not worth seven times. So why do that why do I have to have that? Right. Even three times is crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Right. And even if you have that, because we have that together, it's not good enough for you.

SPEAKER_02

Outrageous.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. It's a good one. Yeah, no, it's it's frustrating. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I'm looking for somewhere to live. I'd have to move on July 1st.

SPEAKER_03

Stop talking about business.

SPEAKER_06

Well, I'm just saying. We don't have to move.

SPEAKER_05

We want to move, pretty much. But at the end of the day, and that's only July 1st, it's a date because I want to make sure the kids finish school where they're at.

SPEAKER_06

Correct.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And you people don't want to give nobody an apartment because my credit score is not a thousand.

SPEAKER_02

You fucks. I'm sure there's a wholesome menace out there somewhere.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_05

Where are these landlords who rent? Now everything's gotta go through a realtor?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Just as bad as the car insurance we're talking about. My car insurance is fine, but I'm just saying they're good.

SPEAKER_06

But everybody else.

SPEAKER_05

They're saying they're raising them at crazy rates. Yeah. So like I'm talking $4,000 a month, that's nuts. That's for six months. No, they're saying a month. No, hey, I'm telling you, it's all over the day. The news is trying to song.

SPEAKER_06

But anyway, that was talk my shit. I don't watch ready news. For this exact reason. That's a really good one. The press.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, mine is the fact that getting back on topic, motherhood will expose every unhealed part of you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Sore wounds. Yeah, for sure. How about kids? Immaturities. All that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. They really do be tested.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's deep because I I even my own guys recognize they're teaching me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Right. Yes. As long as I'm learning though, then I'm okay with it. Like, go ahead and expose those wounds so that I can like address that. For sure.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, when Zoe be saying some shit.

SPEAKER_04

It show up better for you. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Some lady on Instagram said that your kids don't need the parents that need to be.

SPEAKER_04

You didn't have. Yeah. I've seen that. I said that.

SPEAKER_03

Fucking hell. Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Do it differently. Do it different, right? Do something different. Gotta.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Breaking cycles.

unknown

That's good.

SPEAKER_06

My talking shit would be parentings. Parentings. Jesus Christ. Shut up. Nah. Parents enabling bad behaviors slash habits in their children. Bullying, overeating, being a dick. All that. All that. Because kids are dicks too. Yeah, for sure. You see your kid doing some fuck shit, then when they get socked, you want to blame the other kid. Yeah. Instead of not attacking the kids, checking your kid from the gate, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_04

And maybe something you're doing at home too. That's right.

SPEAKER_06

Maybe you're fucking too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Ignoring them.

SPEAKER_06

That's actually. And they're seeking the attention. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Pay attention to your kids, love on your kids so they won't be dicks.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And families need to be families. It's not a lot of that anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, I've I have people tell me all the time they can't believe how close we are. Yes. And I tell them our whole family's close. Just because I don't talk to so and so don't mean if they call me, I ain't coming.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know? I'll think about it.

SPEAKER_01

You got you are very close in that I was talking about. Yeah, we are very close in the film. I was stuck when I saw like chat.

SPEAKER_05

A lot of people are. I'm telling you. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people tell me that, but that's how I grew up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So that's fire. Go talk your shit. Yeah, for sure. Very, very good. Alright, ladies. I got some.

SPEAKER_06

Sorry. It's for debate, Clover. Facts.

SPEAKER_01

Or debatable.

SPEAKER_06

Facts or debatable.

SPEAKER_01

I got some statements for you guys today.

SPEAKER_06

You can start that over. Yeah, I'm gonna do it over. I'm ready. He stayed. I'm not like, right? I'm not bummed. You're not okay.

SPEAKER_04

What did I do? You're not letting her play the music before you get into your debate club.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I realized that she wasn't ready. And then I started talking and then I realized I'll have to do it again.

SPEAKER_06

Unreliable.

SPEAKER_01

That's not so it was unreliable. You weren't ready for me.

SPEAKER_02

That's my fault.

SPEAKER_06

Yes. He did speed into it.

SPEAKER_02

You did speed into it. We was, you know what? Thank you. There's recording of the the silence as I went.

SPEAKER_06

There's also a recording of this nigga stuttering because he knows he rushed into it. Drink that one! Get to it.

SPEAKER_02

Alright. Alright, ladies, let's get into some facts or debatable.

SPEAKER_06

That's how you want to start that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was.

SPEAKER_06

He started it with an attitude. I feel like he had an attitude. Attitude. Ingratitude. Okay. I'm sorry, Stessa. Go ahead. I was excited to start another way. I'm just trying to make some bloopers.

SPEAKER_02

Yo. All right. All right, ladies, let's get into some facts who are debatable.

SPEAKER_04

What the fuck? All that shit you talking. You have one in my mouth.

SPEAKER_00

This is not the first time I fucked up.

SPEAKER_06

We're gonna edit the fuck out of this episode. Alright. Here we go. Debate Club. Are you ready? Yes. You gonna say it or are you just out of there?

SPEAKER_02

Alright, ladies, let's get into some facts or debatable. I'm low-key crying, that is so.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'm like, these are tears of laughter, guys. Shit, I don't know what was going on.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, that is great. Alright, ladies. So we're facts are debatable, alright? So I'm gonna say statements, and you just gotta speak around facts are debatable. Don't think about it just being it. Are you ready? Yep. Most people settle in life.

SPEAKER_06

Facts. Facts. Facts.

SPEAKER_02

Facts good. Quick say it, mom. Most people care about being right than being happy. Facts. Facts. You're rose. Yeah, that's true. You should make your bed every day.

SPEAKER_06

Facts. Absolutely. Facts.

SPEAKER_02

Cold pizza is better than hot pizza.

SPEAKER_06

What the hell? Debatable? Debatable. He's trying to trick up.

SPEAKER_02

Sleeping with socks on is crazy.

SPEAKER_06

Facts. Alright, it's debatable as long as they're clean. Facts. If the sex is bad, the relationship won't last. Facts. Debatable. Yeah, that's debatable. That's facts. Nah, fuck that. That's a fact. People settle. We just said that.

SPEAKER_02

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_06

But they ain't happy.

SPEAKER_02

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

Being too available kills attraction. Facts. Debatable.

SPEAKER_02

That's debatable. You shouldn't build with someone you have. You shouldn't move all the one. What? Move them a lot. Sorry, guys. That's debatable. Yeah, that is.

SPEAKER_08

He didn't even finish it.

SPEAKER_02

I'll put his deal with somebody. You shouldn't build with someone. You should meet them. Built. Debateable.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Humans really said, let's destroy our own habitat.

SPEAKER_06

Facts. Facts.

SPEAKER_02

Love is real, but timing matters more.

SPEAKER_06

Facts.

SPEAKER_02

Facts. Boneless wings are just chicken nuggets.

SPEAKER_08

That's a fact. It's facts. You're child. Child is child.

SPEAKER_02

You're children. Weekends go by too fast. Facts. Facts. That is a fact. Movie theaters are still worth it. Facts. That's debatable.

SPEAKER_01

I love going to the movie theaters. Last one, last one. The driver controls the music.

SPEAKER_06

Debatable. Uh it's debatable. Debatable. I don't feel like it. Damn.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, if you if you give it over to money.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

I have a joke.

SPEAKER_02

Go for it.

SPEAKER_06

We did talk your shit before in debate club. It's okay.

SPEAKER_02

We should have your remix. That's funny as hell.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's all I got.

SPEAKER_06

I couldn't even help it. I was waiting to talk your shit because I'm just saying that was awesome. I like these rapid rounds, uh, lightning rounds, rapid rounds. I like it. No. I will eat it. I will. I have eaten it. I'd rather it be.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of people love cold pizza. Maybe Michael always used to eat cold pizza.

unknown

I like it.

SPEAKER_06

Baby Michael used to make a grilled cheese and a toaster.

SPEAKER_04

Me too.

SPEAKER_06

Funny as funny. Miguel taught me a toast. Miguel taught us that. Wait, you can make grilled cheese in a toaster. I never did that. It's not a good thing. Don't you do it? Don't you fucking eat it?

SPEAKER_05

That was Michael's way of making a grilled cheese, and that's all. That was him cooking for us.

SPEAKER_06

That was him cooking grilled cheese. Got it. Hilarious. You're a child. He was a child.

SPEAKER_02

He was a child. Still a child. That's all I got for Facts of Debatable. Nice. That was great.

SPEAKER_07

That was good. It was good.

SPEAKER_05

I liked our little question thing too. Or did you know your name, your word, make a sentence? That was good. Yeah, that was good, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Now we're gonna tone it down. Not dumb it down. Yeah. But tone it down. Please.

SPEAKER_04

Let's get into health, wealth, and positivity. You can love your kids and still miss your old life.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Right? I miss being young, wild, and free.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Don't let anybody make you feel bad about that.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You're still a person, yeah. You're still an individual outside of. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

You're a parent and you're a people too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. For sure. A supported woman raises different children.

SPEAKER_05

Agreed. Agree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. It's real deep. Please do better. Fathers. Other parents. I know other parents aren't always just fathers or mothers, but it takes doing anything over. Yeah, absolutely. Last one. You don't have to be perfect to be a safe place. True. I mean, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I receive that.

SPEAKER_04

So I just want to say happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there that are doing their best. Um and healing and breaking cycles and still showing up for their kids and their families every day, even when nobody uh sees it or appreciates it. Um, and for those who are missing their moms, we see you and we're sending you a bunch of love, light, and positivity. We love you. Those were good. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

I receive all that. Even though I'm not a mom, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. You're still a parent. Yes, you are a parent. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

Grandmothers constantly. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It just so happens to be Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Guys, you know what to do. Like, comment, share, subscribe. Call us.

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802 319 9133.

SPEAKER_02

It's done. Welcome to the pod. We loved having a lot of people. Shout out to my mom. Natural.

SPEAKER_06

Comment. Like the video. Like it. Share. Tell them, mom. You watch it and you watch it. I watch it. I like it.

SPEAKER_05

I put it out there. I share it. Yeah. I tell people about it so they can subscribe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

We love you. Yeah, we do. We appreciate you. We love you, mommy.

SPEAKER_08

Mama.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. So, guys, stay wholesome, but don't forget to be a menace.

SPEAKER_03

Happy Mother's Day, guys.