EP3 施玮谈《献祭者--宋尚节传》上

宋尚节被称为"二十世纪华人世界最有影响的布道家"。出生在福建的一个基督徒家庭，他曾在美国俄亥俄州立大学获得化学博士学位，之后回到战火中的中国以及东南亚地区侍奉，43岁时死在北平。

问题1： 施玮老师，请您谈谈促使你去写作《献祭者》的原因，是什么触动你去写作宋尚节的故事？

问题2: 你会用献祭者作为标题来总结宋尚节，并且这本书主要包括三部分：祭物、祭坛和祭火。为何用这个框架来诠释宋尚节的一生的？

问题3:在你写作的过程中，也包括资料收集的过程中，有没有对他的这些人生经历有新的认识吗？

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施玮：《献祭者》

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SPEAKER_01 0:02

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SPEAKER_00 2:04

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SPEAKER_01 6:18

Si y shig a top told the eagaso. There is a sis and if a time jum the yaginhu legan, which um put shig a some chancia take a lunch and tom sha, yes, don't need the lunch and legendrum. Oh chip and shootanjum, yet chuida shu niom sient, lay tom tiao suan chan. I shen uh shutangum to bow sang. So nishum shung changed changu changia lao suan shu something that is.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Hudden the wu. In the easy to the bows of the chi na yuenha woman the woman tenu to the patient to more data room, yes more dad ne so brin tash a goggle santoma uh put mon yung tin shi another ego. Twe de bufan tivu or siangin tmuchungta, then jinotzu water, you and that psida, you gang quiting, fishinju nag the jun, siang ketho shi tonka, tsung pi, shotye, uh shupunan shu tingla, yahoa, chanta, a chu make what the sentier, tig go tank cash, then yung kui the fun shung ta shoot function, yes y dog enough foot in the tangli, y di ta m shigin, and psi king. The tetical go and t shia ta hole centurietwa chien shi do quole do tiny centurien chin centurion gunsh me do cash to sand tigata and pet the sentri to tin yet do the tortin, could the so sent me the tortin. Ya home janatinakamfa ego sumi two the seni in danger shen for the shen. Tat a shenfu yo henta ibufan diosen tokum to the shunfu shenfu sen like piaga to your shinfu sins okay the song yeah quick dotn gush go at na tatawan tin ping boha. Tung ye yo to be po she sins that tie your be po mina shit, mingo shit, do e tie upoda, the tat bepo hung, to you doll uh senten si sang head uh tato ching me. Number ten the go to tatang con my wish young profound band, the what jenbe. They're a tita. Shankyu zhangia, lungs the t woo, tea the taxi and the wish and try and fien shan the four. Bush the panty. Bush may eager and do meaning the tensin the swanga the be poet to your mason, look, you send yo, no doler, number tin fiend to fien. Hold like at yog, a shwang. Tigita, then come to dashun send the yenny eggwing down to send the yenny like her. So just should ha some pinna, tapon says super, dash it ha sends a ning of cash. Hanu so, says a quaternia tuning a su pad, be your way tide, e put out ya, do eco ni tumsha ta call nin shu senjia tung sishensha family na diny mentu tatin e chatin. They hides the joga, tatu shit, nice ye in tana mana di she to rij, hides, tata chic hide the ting, uh tigashiho on tantiga nan so bathi would send me ho at me sin sang the hodi at the sins on the tea young shen the two may hog on the moon was me and go to me sin sand the tea on the king foot lung the two years.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

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SPEAKER_00 14:16

Tat the tungsen you eagle tums in j then tums and she go to kanji and jai yi mung be bushes at tungsenji. She tungsenji chian, has dumeguo hole ta tumba ta tan jai eagle shan chan pud, ta shanimia ego no ninjani, niti mansa. Swe jala sha mungian, sigga, uh shizha. Sigu shijha munjian ta sandin sang jan the jin san dogden the sans tin of sham yo shaj po e look pot, quin sendo de polla, la hotela, sami jukanji, no, uhdulgen's any, taju sang to chillin yat the nasa yohindu soigne, tigushoho, taju catji, shizha, sanganyo, yan songye, figuel tata tord sha. N figuhat ha told in the shho, tata so ne tono, the hot you poetri of children, the natish it jubay more. Natugusho tata tata song jok. Sishans that ganthe, figuel had to seni the shiz the chasha, now she jobsi. Tadjuba toi you go like a pugulatherin, last song shit ja. Sizarin la sangla, sh the judge membienta. Sang the jatherin, you do pump beensi, puguole with yogol at sins, sh the judge you like, she hold the shit jab to your full gala higny, uh she ja sang the old sang to she sings, this is not you the nigga monk. I took a monk, ta tons and jitia, she should give. We shouldn't. Sandy pin push then hatun sent laying in a fusilla, take it at the yi mo, I should say jitia. She shan't she don't judge. Then say mayo, a mayo function. Sweet down ta shell shiz on the shell and y ho sang you shit ya, nay who the gush. Do the send the ancient to my bag yet. Would heons in giating moon? Tonzinji pushes. Send you or shooting her made the motor nay sing the tree, Tato imusan me. Doggall, show me, no show hame or sint you. Two fit on the Sunti Tacanja Mo Tizunio or Susin Zunio, Tacanja Y Mo the Sho, Miguel, Tio Warning Horse. Utu Sme, Ju to Shitti Sinji Senshi Pato Punitz Mish Don't Habi Ton Seneho Don't Habi Sentin' Fu Single, Kaju Tong, Tong Qui Huna, Kato Pauchi, So Tianguatinga. 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How you go eat the sh. You dang the cushion ya ting should ha so sh be shoked ta shius meiko cushion the queen that sugar. The sh and saw you to don't go. Jot the chingout. I t putding the doubting outsh, Johan duch, Tash Daboshiento, Tabusha Bi Sinchaban Kudush ho, Tiohan du Mati, Sinjish Mati, Le Bodot. Within Bodotan, Yuchi Zapuncuddishho, Jigung Shin, Tapushum Panu Shison, Tavan Chung, Tanan Zan Shivan Sin in the curtain, Tatabunk. Natashu bo, Genshame, Puddin Shu, Fit Hang Yoshu, I cheen shad the sho, I shit me, that a hair tsoni dash, semi godi shizn kuitsu se. Nishung, semi gochi shis and hu se. She ta tame go dan she go and leach the dean fat. Just so you ta can be rong y the don't she ta to the hands up lincina hani or don't sho fit a hmuchajenda summu shore. Then go to the soto mayo tank. Then tat two teams and being ho. Tatterjitso each mayo. I taquiko yo, let's say tattoo chins and being y hop, child chin shits a moquesh, and quick and tatuans are fasteness. Oh yach mammu shani to mammuch companjano and the huni tuda was an it you bani pushina sh some gital fan pushini the digital shell at the middle and harnet. Tanju Ponla y girl, tachi her, junila. Tatjo chan say joke, we gik me put in your sun yeah, say jint and be and the jitti hen sweep here, you know sat lock, then she and the yellow sanjin yo even shirts any hot. Haio, hen song yo the judge tattoo jinx and be colo tata jitina, ta no, fidancia, tolly. Twe qamven, do de yuanjinat mutyan puton, then not chambut ta holo. Yo senze thing the ho tata yonins to yonansi, yeto yo. Two can the changed sh at two chins and piny ho ta the chins and yani, ij don't shibata te pong yo, tango sh, ij so we ta yo, put you the tash and pin bat to judata m can you easy put in taun shut tami yeo yi young the yang wonba, zunggoiho, tapa my shio yiang yang one song patash pong, the tat or sing ifitana gun ching, haio jun ya the shata yun sang this mioshin. Tetis gong sang yon the short tongji to tat be meo sujin dia son layon ho can shata jatong uh ning me sangu diab the tsungko tin isma your sint head, you know pad isma pad so tsungo shui who m di tang to the tsung double fandoze tu boy can of the tinging fit on shush you play good eating sheo tie me or jinzi don eat uh you so and quiet, the hunting, tamo sha and she hook zitigating quakes order, eo do sifant fit on twitonga, yeo fit on gauche. Tami eat his son at your fancy and towards it ha to ego so could you don't pump the t yeam bedding to you who if I see and I think you should eat the sh one soy the t pink on the total should all the team to the daughter, and some in the minto, rut and hamu, the children go veyo titu. So yi chan ping simo, case young sang had a timda and the shijan, tabaca, soy the room champio, taken shen, the van chan the jokis and like dan tan chan dog, it is a bummer sort of tan chan, the cool jud the shit janju. So you take or bend you, can go to tin so the same.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

I shouldn't dang yo shall nigga shad the tangi.