Scott and Dan's Excellent Passion Week Journey

Each day of the week before Jesus' crucifixion is firmly fixed in scripture. Join Dan and Scott as they journey through scripture to talk about what happened each day of the week before Jesus' crucifixion and why it matters for us to know about it.

Scripture is best read in context, so is the Holy Week. Below you'll find a couple of references that can help you on your journey.  God bless and may Christ be forever praised! Happy Easter!

Matthew's references to each day of the week - https://www.biblegateway.com/learn/biblical-living/holidays/holy-week-easter-people-places-events/

Devotional from Easter to Passover - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xTBWXwZj-Be0w8IU0MyzukpPSc2jV7F4/view?usp=sharing

Produced, edited and hosted by Scott Askew and Dan Daugherty

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Hey everybody, welcome to the Creek Cast. This is Scott and Dan, and we are here today to uh talk about a very special subject. And um, I really man, Dan, I don't know. I'm changing my mind. Here's Dan. Dan's here today. Oh, it didn't play. I turned it down. No, that's not right. Oh, forget it. Forget it. I ruined it.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

You totally ruined it.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

I'm a horrible DJ.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

It was gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

It was gonna be here. Let's let's just try it again just to make sure. Oh, geez. All right, here we go. He was gonna do this.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

I just cleaned my bathroom. Gosh, I'm really bad at this. Anyway. All right. He played he played that at the before we start. He's like, I'm gonna introduce you and then hit this. And then I said, it sounds like that noise that is made when you just clean your toilet or your bathtub. So Dan with little fairy wings cleaning the bathroom. Oh well, I'm Mr. Clean. I am bald and have earrings, so Mr.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Clean, that works. If we ever get Kevin on here, I'll get him with it. We'll do this. We'll do that. So could you imagine?

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Oh, he his face. We've already derailed. This is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

Yeah, we're derailed. Um we are we are here this week, and this week is the Passion Week. It's the week that we celebrate. Um, of course, Resurrection Sunday, next Sunday, Easter, at the end of this week. But the whole week is filled with biblical text that tells us about what Jesus was doing pretty much every day. There is one day that we question a little bit whether that actually happened on Wednesday or not. We'll talk about that. But for the most part, starting on Sunday, we have a general record of things through the gospels that tell us what Jesus was doing each and every day. And of course, um uh we just wanted to kind of walk through that today, just kind of a an information style um podcast today. We're not gonna talk about uh, you know, a heavy subject other than uh, of course, the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus, and uh that is a heavy enough subject indeed. So we're gonna try to give biblical references as much as possible. Um, I have a couple of timelines up in Matthew and Mark, and then a can uh chronological uh timeline up, and Dan has some stuff up of his own. We'll try to include these as much as we can in the show notes so that if you want to go and take a look at them, you certainly can. So, Dan, you doing okay today?

SPEAKER_03 2:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Good. Yep, good, good. He just got a fire alarm on his phone. Um if that goes off again, we'll try to incorporate that somehow into the uh podcast, which would be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

I was telling I was saying before that uh I can't even if my because I I usually have my phone on silent um because I'm always in a place where I don't want to disrupt. Right. Anyway, even when it's on silent, the thing scares the crap out of you. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, because we're just sitting there and all the slides like I'm like, oh I thought whoever's messaging him, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Um so pay attention to me.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

That's that's my don't read this text message from this person. It's the warning, warning.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Man, I'm gonna download that one. All right. So we are excited to be with you guys today. And um, I hope that I hope this podcast will help you out this week. I hope it'll cause you to take a devotional attitude towards um toward this week, and so that you can just slow down every day and kind of um uh just just take in what it is. And I know that this we'll post this probably it'll be Tuesday evening. Uh it's Tuesday during the day right now, so I'll try to get this posted as early as I can, and uh then at least you can uh listen to it, look over the scriptures, and follow along um for the rest of the week. So uh we are going to start, of course, with Sunday, this past Sunday, um, where we celebrate what we know as Palm Sunday. I've seen a lot of um uh social media messages and posts about the meaning of the word Hosanna, yeah, um, which does mean save us, save us, O King. Um, but I've had a lot of those who were saying that they never knew that. And um it's common.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Um it is in Hosanna act uh it it actually like the quite literal translation would be save now. Um and it was it was a declaration um uh of needing needing salvation. Um and so and it's interesting that that's what they're calling out on Sunday. That's right. Um are they calling that out because they believe he's Messiah? Or are they calling that out because they're under Roman rule and Jesus is the king that they're declaring, yeah, and only kings could save their people from the rule of others.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

Yeah, it's hard to it's hard to determine exactly what the what the crowd mindset was there because you know when you've been trod over so so much and the possibility of a king maybe is something that moves your heart to to desire to overthrow Rome. That's very possible. I you know, it's hard for us to determine because we weren't there. Right. Um, but the the word Hosanna does have the connotation of Old Testament messianic ideas. How they were using it, we're not sure. And uh that's exactly right.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

I mean, I I I think you can you can by the way the week went, I think they're probably thinking of an earthly saving.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

I think so too. Yeah, because when he when he didn't just overthrow Rome by say Wednesday or Thursday, man, they were they turned on him hard. Right. And um and I guess that's that's good. And today, of course, we're taking we usually take a very logical approach to this, and we rarely delve into devotional ideas in the podcast because it is about information, it is about Christ, and everything's devotional, and uh, we get that. But you know, just consider for a moment why do you call on Christ? Um Do we just call on him like a genie? Do we just call on him to answer us? Or is it something much deeper, uh something much more holy uh in a relationship that we have with him as his as as Christ um people and as God's children, do we do we do we go for the right reason? Right. That's just a good question to ask.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

I think it's uh a great self I'm big in self-reflection. Um I I think that um if if we're not asking ourselves like how how do I really c how do I really call out call out to God? Um what what is it that I do to um like do I actually believe what what I say? Right um what's what's taught at church, you know. Um and so I I think I think if we're not if we're not you know going through that in our minds and our hearts on a regular basis, um you can find yourself becoming complacent. Absolutely. Yeah, and I just I just think that there's uh there's that uh element of our faith that we tend to take for granted, and that's just and and that's that's exactly what what what you were just talking about. That's this idea of like you just wake up and you just go about your day and you you know, um, and so I think every now and again uh we need to sit down and and and say, okay, do I actually believe what I say I believe? And if you do, uh what does it look like? Uh you know, what what does Hosanna you know mean for you on a on a daily? Again, not trying to get very devotional. Right. But um I think for if if we're not doing that, we're we're missing the point of the the minds God has given us and the you know the ability to see him um through other people and and events in life, and um, you know, uh rather than robotic belief system where it's just we believe it because we are told it, you know. Um uh it's okay to ask questions and that that type of thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

So yeah, I I've I that old saying, um, do we talk to him when we don't think we need him just to listen to him? And and I think that's a you know, relationships die if all we ever do is go to the other person when we need something. Yeah. And um it we have to enjoy the presence.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

My favorite's looking at married couples and saying try try that. Yeah, yeah. Talk talk to your spouse once a week. Yeah, just and see and see how that works. Yeah, just talk to them. See what kind of uh kind of relationship you have if you know, if it's just you know, it's like going to church every Sunday. If that's all you do, yeah. It it it dies slowly.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Yes, yep, I agree. So um some good biblical references for this in the book of Matthew. We have Matthew 21, 1 through 11. Um, in the book of Mark, we have Mark chapter 11, 1 through 11. And um, then we have a couple of references, and if I'm missing anything here, uh Dan, please help me. Luke 19, 28 through 44. Yep. And John chapter 12, verses 12 through 19. You hit them all. And so uh, yeah, that's that's uh if you want to go check those out again. We'll try to have uh the list to these Bible reading plans in the show notes. Um but um if not, I'd say grab a little notebook and and take them along with you. And um so Palm Sunday, those are our references for Palm Sunday. Of course, Jesus comes into Jerusalem, takes him the whole day. He goes around, he looks at the excuse me, he looks at the temple, sees the money changers, sees all the stuff taking place, and then generally he we believe he goes back uh to where he's staying, which we believe. I b I've always believed it was Mary Martha and Lazarus' place, but um it could have been, you know, somewhere else close by.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Typically speaking, I think uh most people th uh he returns to Bethany.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah, yeah, which is where which is Mary Yeah, yeah. So whether he's staying at their place or he's staying somewhere else uh in Bethany, um, which would have been a uh a decent walk for them. A decent, oh well, a really decent walk for us, but a short walk for the the Jew that walked all the time. Um, we'd be dying on that hillside somewhere um on Monday. So uh, but not Jesus and his uh followers, they walked everywhere. So uh and then he comes back and we have Monday. Uh Monday is the day that Jesus is leaving, they're leaving Bethany, and they see a fig tree. And that fig tree is um in bloom and is supposed to be in the position to bear fruit, but it is not. And so um, are you looking that up, Dan? Or I can look that up real quick.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

I I am actually looking up something I think we missed on Palm Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Oh, go ahead. All right. Well, do you need to come back to it?

SPEAKER_00 11:14

No, I yeah, we'll come back to it, but I I want to make sure that I get the right reference.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

Okay, cool. Uh, Matthew 21, 12 through 22. Um, it says, let's see here. No, that's Jesus cleansing the temple. So uh looking up these references really quick. Mark 11, 12. And so Jesus and his followers leave Bethany, and it says on in Mark 11, verse 12, it says, On the following day when they came from Bethany, he was hungry, and seeing in the distance a fig tree and leaf, he went to see if he could find anything on it. When he came to it, he found nothing but leaves, for it is what was not the season for figs, and he said to it, May no one ever eat fruit from you again. And his disciples heard it. Now that's it for Monday morning. Um uh that's all he does with the fig tree on Monday morning. They turn to leave and they go to Jerusalem. And when he enters into Jerusalem, the scripture tells us, again, uh, this is I've got Mark here. Um, and Mark says, it says, They came to Jerusalem and he entered the temple and began to drive out those who sold and those who bought in the temple. And he overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. So what would happen is you brought your sacrifice into the temple, and they would determine that your sacrifice wasn't quite good enough, and the money changers and the people in the temple. So they would tell you, uh, hey, you've got to go buy a better sacrifice, and but your money isn't good here. You need temple money, and so they had to go to a money exchanger first, exchange their money at an exorbit exchange rate, and then they turned around and went and sold their sacrifice to take off the money for a new sacrifice, so they're losing money twice over. Then they take their new sacrifice to be sacrificed. And the problem is their old sacrifice was just turned around and sold to somebody else. But the people were powerless and they they there was nothing to be done about it.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

And consider too that the you know, these entire families would come uh this time of year um to offer their sacrifices, uh, oftentimes from a very long distance. Yes, they traveled a long way as well. They could not keep uh a perfect sacrifice or a uh a sacrifice that was uh gonna be worthy, um, you know, to try to keep it alive for days, um, you know, away from uh uh pre predators, those types of things. Dirt, even just dirt, mud. I mean so a lot of times they would buy their sacrifice when they got to the temple.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

And uh one of the interesting things about that though is that um when they would get there and they would see these these things um offered, um, like like you were just saying, like they were being overcharged. Yep. Uh and they weren't the best of the best. No. You know, and so um and something interesting about the clearing of the temple, uh, because uh it always bugs me when and you probably see this on Facebook a lot and other social media is the you know What would Jesus do? Yeah, what would Jesus do? Well he'd you know he wasn't turning tables. Yeah, he wasn't beyond turning tables. That's a that's a gross, like it's horrible. Yeah. I don't believe when Jesus fashioned a whip that he was whipping people. No, mm-mm. Never thought that. But there's so many people that that do that that he was whipping the money changers out he was he built a whip to get the animals out.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

That's right. To make loud noise, to to to get the animals out of the temple.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Flipped the tables and said, You're not doing this here. That's Dan paraphrase. Uh but then when he fashioned Dan chapter two, but when he fashioned the whip, it was to get the animals out. It wasn't to get it wasn't it isn't what it wasn't like he was in anger beating the animals. He was getting them out of the temple. That's right. And and and this at the same time scolding and telling the people, you're not you're not doing this here.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations, but you have made it a den of robbers. So he he insults all of them there. He says, You're all robbing people. Yep, you're all terrifying people.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Insults them with the truth. Jesus never sins in this whole thing. Uh it would because I I brought this up to a group of people one time, uh, and we actually we talked about our at our small group uh, I don't know, a while back. Um, but I I was talking with a different group of people at one other time and and uh they they couldn't understand why Jesus would the animals didn't do anything wrong. Why did they why did he it's not he's not punishing animals, he's getting getting them out.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Right. Um and you're not gonna do that by standing there waving your arms just like come on, let's go because I mean if you've ever I I grew up on a hog farm.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

Oh yeah. There was no other uh prods and whips and stuff, that's the only way you could get those things to move the way you wanted them to move.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

The number of times I got hit holding a board with handles cut in it, yes, and the hogs coming back at me, finishing hogs, and me trying to shock them to turn them around, and them still trying to get at me, it's a it's a it's a fight. And and so I'm not saying that there were hogs in the temple. Of course there weren't, because they wouldn't have that would have been that would have been really bad. Um, but um you go back to Leviticus and read how bad that would be. But um, but no, I mean you're exactly right. Jesus never hurt anyone in this process. He never and and even the depictions that we see in movies where Jesus turns over tables and it like hits people and knocks them down. I don't believe that for a second. Um I believe that Jesus was righteously angry. Um, and I find myself that when I'm angry, I'm I don't remember the last time I can fully say I was righteously angry because I don't know how that works. I'm not righteous like Jesus, even though I'm being made righteous.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

But but but you can you can still have a righteous anger. Um I I look at that like the so the way we we um we respond. Right. Um abortion makes me angry. Oh, I I yes, absolutely. And so um instead of going and bombing abortion clinics and certainly or or going out and telling women they're going to hell and abortion clinic people they're they're going to hell, um a righteous anger would be to do something about it. Right. To get invested in the adoption processes, uh to push that. Yep. Uh uh uh to to go uh I know uh our uh the the plan parent would be parenthood that we had in Twin Falls, Idaho was uh there was somebody there every day of the week that was outside praying. And that's all they that's all they would do is pray. And they would offer if if women were going in, uh they'd offer to pray for them before they went in.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Um, and so uh, you know, that that's a way, yeah. That's a righteous anger. Yeah. Uh it means to step step out into the right in the right way of things, right, and and and let that anger fuel something to change. Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Um I think the reason I I said it the way I did is because so many people try to justify their anger outside of righteousness, yes, that I agree 100% we should be righteously angry about abortion. Um I I'm 100% in favor of everything you just said. I just I I guess the reason I say the way I did is because I I man, I sit talk to people all the time who are angry, right? Uh who will claim righteous anger about government or righteous anger about schools or right, and I'm like, no, that's you're angry about something, but it's not from a stance of righteousness. Right, right. It's um it's not us saying this is wrong against the Lord's idea. And and some would say it is, but that righteous anger is something that we have to be very careful about. We can't just say, well, God got angry, Jesus got angry, so I can get angry.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

No, no, that's not how No, no, that that that's not how that works at all. And so that that, you know, and you brought that it's a good point to make because a righteous anger is is an anger that that um brings you to the point of wanting to make a difference for the better. That's right. Um, and so um having a righteous anger um uh uh that drives you to go feed people. Yep. Um, you know, notice when Jesus comes up on crowds of people, um, it says that he had compassion on them. That's right. And every and every time he it says that he has compassion on them, what does it follow? Or what what follows it is him doing something about it. It's always something compassion drives you to do something that's not feeling sorry for, it's compassion. It it's a it's an action word.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

And it's biblically based. That's right. It's it's that's right where where if we're angry about something, then we can take a stand on what the Bible says to be true. So that again, that's something, it's not an opinion. Yes. Um, it's bit we are we are called to um help those who have less than us. Um we are called to protect the innocent. We are those kind of things that we have a right to stand on. And um, and I think and this is a good example of this.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

Jesus standing up for what was right in the temple, it was a temple, it was a place of prayer, not a place of prayer finance, and and and it could it could finance could take place, sure, but the what they were doing, the way it was happening, right? Uh it was dishonest. And it was it was price gouging, it was not giving the best, right? It was it was you know, because you know if you're not selling the best and people are not buying the best and they think they're buying the best and they go because they've got to get it inspected before it's even sacrificed, right? And to be turned away and said, No, this isn't yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

I mean Or do you think they were all I always thought they were all in cahoots, even the people were probably in cahoots.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

They could have been. Yeah, we'll just we'll just offer that you know whatever you have, we'll just go ahead and do it. I mean, they could have been. I guess they could have. I mean, or or they could have been turned away because they didn't have a and then well, there's no there's no return policy. Right. So that's now your animal, plus you didn't get to sacrifice to the Lord because it wasn't good enough. So I mean, all of this affects the um I got a call coming in.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

Not only is it the righteousness of the Lord, it's it's the the good of the people. That's right. As well. It's their it's their ability, what's the wrong thing? It's their ability to worship without hindrance, yeah. They're hindering them to worship.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Yes, is I right. And so all that to say righteous anger, like Jesus had, flipping tables, is not it's not a goal. It's not the s it's it's not the same thing of us getting angry at somebody and wanting to throw thro throw a chop.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

That's just there are no throw chops in the world. No, no. Well, maybe in the old testament David's mighting in, we're not sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

I mean and if yeah, it just like just Stop use stop posting that meme. Stop.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

It's just yeah, just and the bumper stickers and all of it. Go ahead. Yeah, just stop. So Jesus does go into the temple. He clears the temple, um, calls them robbers, and um, and it says in verse 18 of Matt of Mark 11, it says, And the chief priests and the scribes heard it and were seeking of a way to seeking a way to destroy him, for they feared him because all the crowd was astonished at his teaching. And when evening came, they went out of the city. The we see it all during the week. The leaders don't mind people coming and saying different things until the people become amazed and astonished. And I know you used that uh this past weekend in the communion meditation, that um, that amazed idea. That amazed is um something that scares um the chief priests and the scribes because as long as they wield the intellectual power of scripture and the knowledge of scripture over the people, the people are amazed at them. But when someone comes along with a different authority, like Jesus, he's the one who came with all the authority, um, it scares them. It really does.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

I in it, I I love, I love you know, when you on Sunday in your sermon you talked about how you know they were they were all amazed at who Christ was coming into the city, and then by the end of the week, it's they're done. You know, I in my lesson for my uh Kinnect class, we were we're going over um uh uh Jesus in the temple at 12 years old, and how all of them were amazed and astonished about him. Uh, when he teaches in the in the New Testament, you see over and over again, and they they were amazed at his authority, you know, this authority that only comes from God uh until it calls them out, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Until it calls you to the to the rug and says you have to change.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Yeah, but they can't do it. And and uh largely are we have a society that operates that way. Absolutely. So I I was gonna mention too about Palm Sunday. Yeah, go ahead, but uh Jesus weeps over Jerusalem.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

That's right. I'm and I always ask in uh is it Matthew? Uh it well Luke 19.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Right after the triumph entry uh entry, there's uh there's a portion of scripture, verses forty-one through uh forty-four. Says as he approached and saw the city, he wept for it, saying, If you knew this day what would bring peace, but now it is hidden from your eyes, for the days will come uh uh for the days will come on you when your enemies will build a barricade around you, surround you, and hem you in on every side. Then they will crush you and your children among you to the ground, and they will not leave one stone on another in your midst because you did not recognize the time when God visited you. That takes place after his triumphal entry entry. And about forty years to the siege of Rome, uh Siege of Jerusalem by Rome. He he sees he sees Jerusalem and weeps over the city that just proclaimed Hosanna to the king, who they're worshiping him at as a king. Yeah. I don't know about savior, but definitely king. Um and he he weeps over the city anyway because he knows they're so lost.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

Um I just think it's it's impactful. It's heartbreaking. Yeah, and it's one of the things we we don't address on uh on Palm Sunday a lot. Well, that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

So I just wanted to make sure we're and it's and it's worth mentioning because you have you have the prayer, this this weeping over Jerusalem, and then you have what we know as the persecution led to what what we call the diaspora in the book of Acts. Right. And Jesus is Jesus' warning along with the persecution does allow a lot of Jews to get out of Jerusalem before the siege of Rome. And so um uh Jesus' warning here is not forgotten by the early church, um, his brother James as he leaves the Jerusalem church. And then of course, James writes um the book of James to a dispersed people um among all the nations is how it's addressed. So uh good stuff there. Thanks for that pickup. That's good. Um okay. So after doing all of that on um Monday, uh Jesus clears the temple and then he goes back to Bethany and he uh gets back there, and then we enter into Tuesday. And the fun part about Tuesday is of course uh the disciples are um uh flabbergasted completely by the withered fig tree. Yeah. And um it is it is really an incredible part of what Jesus does. And um, if you turn to Mark 11, um around verse 20, um, it says in the lesson of from the withered fig tree, and as they passed by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered away at its roots. It didn't just wither at its branches. Overnight, that tree is dead. Wow, and Jesus says, No, Jesus means what he says. And Peter remembered and said to him, Rabbi, look, the fig tree that you cursed has withered. And Jesus answered them, have faith in God. Truly I say to you, whoever says this mountain, be taken up and thrown to the sea, and does not doubt in his heart, and believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. So Jesus uses this for three important pieces of teaching. And um the first one is about the power of prayer and how we ask for things. Now, the gospel, uh the health and wealth gospel community um will take this to say they took that and ran with Oh, yeah. We you can pray for anything. You can pray for a drink of water and it'll appear in your hand or whatever. Um, and that is not why he's talking about here. He's talking about uh agreement with God's will as asking him uh for those things. And uh God, God is willing to give and provide uh what we need, but when we pray and ask in in confidence with God, not only being our salvation is secure, but uh being the things that God that we need to produce disciples and go and tell his gospel message uh those things are important. And so Jesus says, therefore, whatever you ask, and and that's that's important. That's that second part, whatever you believe it to ask. But then that last part is whatever you stand praying, forgive. And I love how there's a comma in the ESV. Um it just kind of lets forgive stand on its own. Like, what do you have to forgive? And he repeats this Mark chapter, uh, Matthew chapter six, the Sermon on the Mount. And he gives the Lord's model prayer, and then right after it, he says basically the same thing. Um excuse me, if you if you need to forgive so that um your father in heaven who's uh may forgive you your trespasses. And um that just talks about a heart that's changed by forgiveness, that it should be willing to offer forgiveness. And I know that's not easy, but that's those lessons that that he gives, and he's preparing the disciples to go into Jerusalem on Tuesday because this is what we know is the great day of questions. And and I want to make sure that you have these references because um uh Dan, what references do you have for Tuesday?

SPEAKER_00 29:05

For Tuesday, I have uh Matthew 21, 18 through 25, 46. Okay. And I have Mark 11, 20 through 13, 37. Notice that's that's two full chapters. Yes. Yes. And then Luke 21 through 21, 36. That's 36 verses. Uh, and then John 12 verses 20 through 50.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

So 30 verses there. So there's a lot written on that Tuesday. And and if you pick through it, you'll notice that there is a lot going on there. Um, there's as a matter of fact, if you read, if you don't read anything else starting today, Tuesday, I would highly, highly, highly recommend you starting around Matthew 21, verse 23-ish, and you just read through all the parables that Jesus tells, all of the, I mean, paying taxes to Caesar, uh, his teaching about the resurrection appears in there, the greatest commandment, whose son is the Christ, the seven woes. Um, so that's where he looks at the you know, the Sadducees and the Pharisees, the scribes, and he, you know, you're calls them, I think that's where he calls them whitewashed tombs. And and um, and so anyway, he just talks about how how how bad they are in a lot of ways. And it's not a this isn't a 23 is not a short chapter. It's uh 39 verses alone. And then Jesus foretells uh the destruction of the temple, signs of the end of the age, uh the abomination of desolation, which is uh something that reaches back to Ezekiel that that you can pull out. Um there's so much here on Tuesday. Jesus is massively busy, and a lot of it takes place in the temple. It does. Most of it takes place right there in the temple. Yeah, I don't know. What an amazing day.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

I mean, in Luke, Luke, Luke 20, I mean, uh right here from verses one on, uh, it talks about his authority being challenged from verses one through eight, I believe. Yeah. And uh, you know, and and as he's teaching, they're they're questioning his authority. And they're not questioning his teaching necessarily, his auth, but his authority. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Because his teaching is amazing. Right. They can't they can't throw out the teaching, right? Because it the teaching, honestly, for those with ears to hear and hearts to listen, the teaching is incredible. And I I've I don't know where I picked this up, and my mind doesn't always pick it up and remember it well, but I believe this is where some of the Jewish leaders, though they would end up agreeing to crucify him, I think that there were there were probably some Jewish leaders here who were swayed in many ways. I mean, there had to be a swaying here of thought process for some of these leaders because we know that some of the priests became leaders, um, believers later in the book of Acts. And um, I just think that the evidence was stacking on top of stacking, and this day was an amazing and incredible day.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

We also have the discourse on the Mount of Olives that takes place. Yes. When he talks a lot about the end times, the signs of his return. Yes. Um, and then uh this is where it also Judas agrees to this betrayal.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Right. And that leads us into what we call Spy Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Um, but when some scholars say spy Wednesday without without what? Do here is it is it this?

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Oh no, it's not that. That's I just cleaned the toilet. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

My bad. Got mixed up. I just wanted to play it again.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

Oh we have somebody here.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Oh, somebody's at the door. Oh. Um, should we take a break and come back? We could. Um well they're walking over. Oh, never mind. It's okay. I know who it was. I I I saw it. I just didn't want to say his name on here. He he would come up and join us, I'm sure. Um, so uh no, but yeah, we've when you say doo-doo doo, are you are you talking about mission impossible? Spies.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

Doo-doo, doo doo.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Sorry, that's probably the wrong tune. No, it is. My mind, my mind was dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Okay. People are people are turning it off right now. Oh my gosh. Um sorry guys.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

All right, so Spy Wednesday. Spy Wednesday. So you were as serious, I wasn't. So I'm it's all good.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Wednesday generally, we don't know what happened on Wednesday, but there are some scholars who claim that this is the day that Judas did end up uh agreeing to betray Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

It finalizes the portrayal. Yeah, that's right. The agreement was Tuesday, and then the final and again, guys, that this this this is the best of with the knowledge that we have. Um so these are not in depending on your tradition of of Christianity, um, where you place these things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

If you've been through a church that does events every week and they may have said, hey, this was Tuesday, Judas. I again we're not we're not hammering that down. We can we can pretty much fit Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and we can even fit Thursday and Friday fairly well. Wednesday, late Tuesday into Wednesday and early Thursday become a little foggy for us in scripture because it just doesn't give us time markers.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

And the fact that days in the Jewish system began at sunset. That's right. We are looking at it as a sunrise to sunrise. That's right. That that's how we that's how we do it.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

That's how we generally do it. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. And their day, of course, did start at sunset. And so um that's that's something also to keep in mind here.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

So but it's it traditionally a quiet day.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

A quiet day. I think I personally have always believed Jesus probably spent time with his disciples that day. Um, may have spent time with Mary.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Yeah, the the the anointing um yeah at Mary's house or Simon's house, excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

That's right, is generally held to be on Wednesday. Um so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Um and and that that anointing actually varies a little bit by the gospels as well. That's right. Um so it yeah, it nothing contradicts.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Right. What we're trying to get at is that it it's not it wasn't Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John's purpose to tell us exact times for everything.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

So when we're outlining this final week, we we have to guess about a little bit of it. We know that it fell between these times, but we just can't nail it.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

So Matthew 26, 1 through 16, Mark 14, 1 through 11, and John 12, 1 through 8. Yep. Kind of speaks on that. Yeah, kind of gives us that spy when that dun dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

All right, now they did it. Now everybody's gonna hear that, and that's what they're gonna say. You're welcome. Tomorrow they're all gonna be watching Mission of Play. You're you're welcome or or sorry. Sorry. Uh so we enter into Thursday, and of course, Thursday um we call it what is it? Um Monday. Monday. Monday, Thursday. M-A-U-N-D-Y. That's right. Monday Thursday. And uh, and that is a that is a day that we celebrate because we know that this is when uh Jesus had his last supper um with his um with his disciples.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

So this is the preparing for the Passover.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

Um the disciples uh have their feet washed by Jesus, or if you're from the Midwest, washed by Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

But that's an important part of it because we we have to remember that when Jesus washed feet, he washed all of their feet, including Judas.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Including Judas, knowing what is already that's right. He also predicts the betrayal uh uh and Peter's denial. Um he prays in the garden, Gethsemane, uh, which by the way, um guess we'll we'll get there. Gethsemane is uh is a really cool yeah, yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

I mean, we we don't have much more to say about this. We're we're so familiar with the Last Supper because we there is instituted our our service of communion. Um Monday actually comes from the Latin word uh mandatum, uh meaning commandment or mandate. And so Jesus sets down a mandate for the church. And um we celebrate communion every Sunday. We we we observe it that way because we believe that's what the early church did, and and um And it's also called uh this day is also called uh uh uh Pascal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Um, which I have uh a cool book here. Um that's it's called O Sacred Head Now Wounded, and it's uh basically from Pascal to uh Pentecost of l uh liturgy that you read every day and oh that's what you're talking about. So it's it's awesome. I I'm actually gonna try to um type it out because it I have a physical copy. I'm gonna type out they have a Bible reading plan from Pascal to Pentecost. Nice so that we can maybe include in the show notes. After we're done with this, I'll go and type it up real quick. Yeah. That way y'all can uh at least I I I do this, I try to do it every year. Yeah. Um from Passover uh of the Holy Week to Pentecost. Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Which is which is we know is fifty days. Fifty days, yeah. Um about fifty days, and um, we know that that'll turn up this year, uh, should be sometime in early June. Yep. Usually it's early June, late May, um, depending on where um Resurrection Sunday falls.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

So any anyway, I we'll we'll try to put that in there just so that you can, if you want to, um use it as a as a Bible reading. It's not the whole Bible in that time, but it's just key passages that helps prepare your heart. Um but yeah, the the so the Garden of Gethsemane. Uh a Gethsemane uh was an olive press. Um uh trying to trying to give you a word picture here. Um it was uh a large stone wheel that was on um that uh had a uh a big um wooden pole through the center of it that is that uh helped push it and it rolled across uh or around in this in a circle in this trough. And um in the trough was olives. And when the when the when when they would use that uh to press the the oil out of the olives and collect that. Um so the Garden of Gethsemane is really a it it's a it's an olive, it's an olive garden. Not where you buy fake Italian food. Not your not your uh you know endless bread season salad. I'm hungry now.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

I'll take the minestroni.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

Yeah. But it but it was it was an olive press um that uh so Jesus essentially he's he's praying in the in the in the in the garden of of olives. Um the the Gethsemane was where that process happened with the with the oil.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

And this is a place that he he regularly uh uh attended and took the disciples to, so it was a familiar place to them. Um of course it makes it easier for Judas Um to find him knowing where he'd probably be or where he was um to lead the authorities there to arrest him. So no, that's good. That's a good definition. Um I think that's important too to know that it's not just the name of a garden. Right. That's important.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Uh the and be his betrayal by Judas, um, and he's arrested on Monday, Thursday as well. Yes. And then uh did you already go over the passages? Uh no. So I have Matthew 26, 17 through 56, Mark 14, 12 through 52, Luke 22, 7 through 53, and John uh chapters 13 through 18.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Yeah, excellent. If you're if you're keeping keeping track, you can write those down. Um that night, of course, we have um Peter's denial, um, and we have the uh the the the courts, the the trials, at least five of them that Jesus ends up going through uh throughout the night. Um if you track down to the betrayal and arrest of Jesus in Matthew 26, 47, I'll just use Matthew here. And uh it says Jesus before Caiaphas in the council, and then um Peter's denials in verse 69, and then in 27.1, uh Jesus is delivered over to Pilate. But um, when we put the chronology, the chronological uh pieces together, Jesus actually attends five uh trials during that night. Judas hangs himself um around that time.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

And this all goes right into early Friday. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Um so imagine um Jesus is being placed on um trial um throughout the night, and um all of these are shady trials because the trials should have taken place in full daylight, they should have been attended by people, they should have been seen, but of course they're not because everybody knows everybody who's in charge knows that it's not because he's actually done anything illegal until he does declare uh to them that he is the Christ, the Son of God. And when he declares that, that's blasphemy according to them. And uh so then they can they can r let their false righteous anger or whatever it is take him before um Pilate.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Yeah, yeah, and and know that that the Jews can't do anything.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

Right. The Jews do not have power to kill him.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

They don't uh they um only only the Roman government does, which is why they take him to Pilate. And Pilate has no, I mean, no lack of better terms, no dog in the fight, other than wanting to keep the peace among the Jews. That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Yeah, that's his goal. He doesn't want Caesar hearing, hey, Pilate can't keep peace down in in in Israel. Because Israel's an important place, it's an important trade hub, a lot of a lot of folks go through there, and Rome has that Pax Romana, that peace of Rome that exists because Rome has basically conquered the world. It was actually Alexander who conquered the world, and then Rome came behind him and cleaned it up. But but they had this Pax Romana that that allowed the peace of Rome to rule, and any Roman citizen would be able to travel from one end of the Roman Empire to the other end of the Roman Empire without fear of molestation. And um, and and he wants to know there's peace, and so that's why also Pilate is a procurator rather than a proconsul. Um, a proconsul wouldn't have a barracks or a guard. A procurator has to have a guard and uh to keep the peace. And so that's why um there are uh there is a uh a group of soldiers there uh to keep the peace in that region, why we see so much of the Roman guard there. So um, of course, Jesus is brought through these charges. Pontius Pilate ends up um bringing him out before the people um in Matthew 27, verse 15, it says that the crowd chooses Barabbas, and so um Barabbas is an instigator and a uh government protester, um, possibly hurting people in that. And yet when Pilate puts uh Jesus up against Barabbas, the crowd um chooses Barabbas. Barabbas to be set free there in verse twenty-one of Matthew twenty-seven. And uh it says, Pilate said to them, Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ? And they all said, Let him be crucified. And he said, Why? What evil has he done? But they shouted all the more, Let him be crucified. So even the crowd just enters this ma mentality. No doubt the priests and Sadducees and scribes scattered out among the crowd, um seeding the crowd with evil uh thoughts and intent. Um, and so Pilate delivers Jesus over to the guards to be to be to be crucified. And so the process of that isn't a fun one, of course, um physically, but even before he gets up on the cross, he is flogged. Um that's the 39 minus one or the 40 minus one that equals 39, because it was thought that 40 would kill a man. And so um they use a cat of nine tails with pieces of pottery and rock and rock and uh bone. Yep. Yeah, and it rips the skin open, uh tears the back open and apart, um, so that even later when Jesus is hanging on a cross, it it's all the more hard for him to pull himself up to take a break.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

I mean, i if if you if you do some just uh I mean if you've ever seen The Passion of the Christ, right? Mel Gibson's depiction, um it's as brutal as it gets. Yeah, I can't I can't watch it. I I can't I can't imagine. I I just uh to to read it is is for you know for most of us we have this when we read books, we have uh a word word pictures in our mind and the story. I mean when I read Lord of the Rings, I mean that before the movie was a big deal. I saw it in my mind. And so we we read and we see these things, but then like to have it depicted um through a movie or through whatever, I mean, uh just uh I I know they've sp they've spent a lot of time um uh going through like uh medically and scientifically what it what it would have done, you know, to the body, right? Um as as he was being whipped and scorched and you know, um I that this was not a yeah, that this was not your typical uh whipping. No. This was this was beyond brutal.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

These soldiers were trained specifically how to inflict pain through a crucifixion, um, through pretty much everything they did. And when you couple the flogging with the crown of thorns, with the sheer mockery that takes place uh with him on what's called the Via de la Rosa, the the path of the cross. Um when you consider that he became so weak that he couldn't carry the cross all the way, so they plucked a man from Cyrene, which was uh down in Africa, um, and um Simon uh is chosen out of the crowd to carry him, uh to carry the cross. And um so Simon takes on this incredible um honor of being truly the only the first man to carry the cross of Christ, but the only one to carry it physically.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

And um so throughout history, um his name to be remembered, and there's even background wonders and commentary that say both his sons, uh Rufus was the name of one. Yeah, no, uh I can't remember the name or the other. Um but they become early uh tenants to Christianity in the early church in Jerusalem, and so um that that's what that's what history tells us. Um uh whether that's accurate or not, we're not sure. Church tradition a lot, yeah. That's right. So um they take him there, um, they they nail him to the cross, uh, they set the cross in place, and he, of course, is hung between two criminals. And um I I would invite you to read this week, Matthew 27, 32 um through 56 at least about the crucifixion. And I would read it on Good Friday. Um, of course, the time is different from here to Israel. Uh our time here would be, I forget, Israel's like eight hours ahead of us, so um, it would be sometime in the morning. But um, if you want to observe it, Jesus hung on the cross local time to Israel from 9 a.m. till 3 p.m. And um those six hours on the cross have been written about. I I've got a book over in the chair that I'm looking at, Six Hours One Friday by Max Sicato.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

Great book.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Um, great book, one of his early ones, just one of his best. And um but I would read it and and and then all that to say that we we go through this almost on a weekly basis. The horror of the cross for Jesus was not the physicality, it was the spirituality of the cross that he bore the sins of mankind on that cross. And when you when you go back to the night before and he's praying in the Garden of Gethsemane and he's crying, he's praying, Um, Father, take this cup from me, not my will, but your will be done. Um Jesus, you know, knows what's gonna happen. He's he's I'm sure he's not looking forward to the physicality of the cross, but this the spiritual nature of the cross of take I can't imagine, and and I'm not saying Dan's a bad person, but I can't imagine taking on one other person's sin in my life and the complications and the heartache and the hurt and the guilt.

SPEAKER_00 49:22

It's hard enough with your own.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

I can't hard I can't bear my own. Yeah, and I can't imagine taking on the sins of mankind. Past, present, and future at that 10 billion, right, 12 billion up to this point.

SPEAKER_00 49:34

I it it's you know, it's a wonder like when he's in the garden that he sweats drops of blood. Yes, yeah. Dr. Luke tells us that. Yeah, yeah. I mean and and understand, and and I'm not saying there's there's a there's a connection here, but there might be. Um it's not widely agreed upon. But he's in the Garden of Gethsemane. Gethsemane was a a a device to squeeze the oil after out of olives. Right. And just the visual nature you get of him sweating drops of blood and the weight of the world pressing that you know what I I don't know. It's just like w what what is taking place here beyond the physical is incredible.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

It's it's unf we we cannot wrap our mind around the idea of paying for all of our sins about a spiritual war. Oh my gosh, it's unreal.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

Yeah, I mean it's just and this is where he wins it.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Yeah, and this this is victory.

SPEAKER_00 50:37

Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

Look, guys, as Christians, we we have this focal point. Um maybe three, maybe four focal points. Genesis 3.15, the proto-evangelium, the first message of the gospel in the Bible, and then we have the birth of Christ, which we celebrate, and then the death of Christ, which gives us victory, and the resurrection, which secures the promise and shows us our hope of future. Um we we we hinge our lives on this focal point. I mean, we this this Friday, I mean, at 3 p.m., just take a moment. Just just stop for just a moment, whatever you're doing, and just say, you know, this is this is the celebration of that point. And um and we call it Good Friday. Good Good Friday.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

Yeah. The most terrible thing that's ever happened in history to to to one man, and it's a good Friday. It's good because of the tremendous spiritual nature of of what took place here. Absolutely. We we went, it's this is the that's the day that victory is given and won. And without that, there is no hope. We don't have any at all. If if I mean we have nothing at all without that. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

I've always felt that when Jesus prayed, and I've heard this elsewhere, I didn't say this myself, but um, if Jesus said, Pray, Father, take this cup from me and stopped, then his will would have been honored because it was a free will decision, but he said, Not my will, but your will be done. And um, there's a whole series of sermons that can come out of that that would explore the the nature of Christ at that moment. But remember, right after that, God allows the angels to attend to Jesus there in the garden to strengthen him. And um, but we will never know what it means. I I once, not to get off the subject, but I once had a uh a youth group long time ago, and I had this young man who would who was bragging to me about doing sit-ups, and I've told this story before. And um, he said, Man, I can do like uh a hundred sit-ups or whatever. I said, Really? You can do a hundred, and he said, Yeah. And so we went to do a lock-in at a batting cage place in Greenville, and it's still there, but it's changed. But you could play basketball and you could play volleyball and um hitting the bat and cages. It was awesome. And that night I did a devotion and I said, Okay, we've got some donuts here. Who wants donuts? Well, of course everybody raised their hands. Two in the morning, everybody raises their hands, and I said, Um, I said, Great. I said, but you have to do, I said, it requires 10 sit-ups. And so a couple of them dropped their hands, and I said, Um, I said, it's okay. I said, I we believe in you. You know, you so one boy walked up and everything, and um uh it was the boy I talked to about doing all the sit-ups, and we hadn't told everybody what we were doing. And so he got down on the floor, did 10 sit-ups, and jumped up and grabbed a donut and started eating it. Well, he was sitting there, he ate it really fast. Next person came over and they went to get down. I said, No, uh, I said, it's not your sit ups. I said, it's his to do. And I pointed over, his name was Josh, and I said, Josh, it's Josh's sit-up. So Josh got right back down on the ground, did 10 more, and the guy looked at me and looked at Josh, and he took a donut and he walked over. And we did that with every single person. There were about 22 people there. He did like 220 sit-ups and he was sore the rest of the night. But when we got to some of the people who said, No, I don't want a donut, I'm I said, Josh, we do 10 sit-ups so that they could have a donut if they wanted it. And he said, Absolutely, and he jumped right down, do 10 more. And the the process is that Jesus died on that cross, he paid for our sin that we couldn't pay for, and he did it, whether you're going to accept it or not. I know we talked about Calvinism last week and the limited atonement. I believe that Jesus affected forgiveness for all sin. Whether we accept it or not, that's up to us. But that's up to us. But he affected sin for all mankind. That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

So it's a beautiful that that's that's the whole idea of being the propitiation for our sin. That's right. Exactly. So, and it was, you know, I I I think about we we had a uh dorm devotion in Bible college, similar to that. My good friend Chris Stoley um did push-ups for everybody you know, during that time. I mean, he did hundreds. Gosh, I hope I don't have to do push-ups right now.

SPEAKER_01 54:56

I'm calling Aaron. Aaron does more push-ups than I do. I do one sit-up a day.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

Yeah, yeah. When I get up in the morning when I lay down.

SPEAKER_01 55:05

The whole day is encompassed in a sit-up.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

And one of the cool things about Good Friday, though, is uh uh among many, uh especially in the spiritual realm, um, is is the reckon uh recognition that's given um uh when when Christ gives his last breath. Yeah. When he says it is finished. Um it is finished is not oh no, I'm dead. Right. That that's the cry of sin has been dealt with. And now on Sunday, Vic that's the victory. That's right. Yeah. Um, and we'll get there in a moment. But uh one of the things that I always um really, really liked, and and you can get a lot of conjecture with this, and there's a lot of church tradition and history that runs with this uh event. Um, but the the guard um after Jesus dies, and he said, Surely this was the Son of God. Yeah. Um uh he's had he has a name and it's called uh uh Long Longni Longinus. Uh and Longinus um has a history of uh he's been venerated by the um the Catholic Church and is considered uh a saint and stuff. Uh but church tradition says that he went he went from there as really what is mounting to the first uh Christian convert uh recognizing who Jesus was and what happened. And so a lot of church tradition teaches that he went and he was a successful uh missionary and stuff in in other other places. Um there's some legend that goes along with that that he performed miracles and stuff like that. Well to be a saint, he had to get three. Yeah, so so I I I don't know about anything about that, but um, it is kind of cool. But and I recently had a conversation with somebody who was fixated on that about what he did. And I just I just you know reminded him that you know don't take away from what Christ has done. Yeah. So um so we can get wrapped up in the the things that happened. I mean, the the the the earthquake and the temple veil being torn. Yeah, just that alone, like if if you know anything about the temple and the way the veil was and how it was like like really high in the air and really thick, that you know, and it tore down the middle, yeah, signifying that we now have access to God. And you know, all the things that took place, like take some time to read, uh read that those accounts on Good Friday, um, Matthew 26, all the way uh through 27, uh 66, Mark 14, 53 through 15, 47, Luke 22, 54, uh through 23, 56, and John 18 and 19. Um there's so much there that uh we that I personally when I when I read and I think of Isaiah 53. Um I had that marked earlier. Uh it actually starts in 52, um, verse 13 through 53, 12. Um, but that that suffering servant. Yeah. Um, you know, just to know that that everything Isaiah wrote about was fulfilled in that in that time. Yeah. On that Good Friday. Yeah. Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

It's it's it's amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:20

I I wrote like an 18-page paper on Isaiah 53 one time. So um just one of the most beautiful passages in all of scripture. Um, and it and it was it's happened on Good Friday when um death was defeated. That's right. And sin was defeated.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

Yeah. Well, and and death and death in that leads to resurrection Sunday, but still what about Saturday? Saturday, Jesus is It's like a Wednesday. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

Like the Wednesday we there's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 58:51

We assume, and and I hate to assume things, but we I think we're safe to assume this that the disciples are kind of holed up in hiding. Their leader has just been murdered and they are scared for their lives.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

They don't know what to do with themselves.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

That's right. They don't. I mean, now the the person they put all their hope in is gone. He had told them repeatedly that he would die and come back. Um, so but we don't have any inclination of that expectation at this point. They they are overwhelmed with uh sadness and fear, um and and uh failure, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 59:26

Um it it's a good case in point of like when it's easy to talk about something, yeah, and then when it actually happens, yeah, to accept it. You know what I'm saying? Like so you see the disciples throughout all of the the gospels, uh up until this point, Jesus tells them a lot of stuff. Yeah. I mean, even to the point John 14, when uh when Jesus is telling them that you know he's gonna go prepare a place for them, and and they're like, Well, Jesus, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us. And he's like, Show you the Father? So we show like like are you kidding me? What do you think I've been doing? What is so like like and but we do the same thing, like we have the whole written word of God, and we still are like I don't know what to do. I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

Oh my gosh. What does God want me to do with my life? Or what's the purpose of life? Right, and we ask we hear those questions all the time. Yeah, and scripture is beautifully written by God to tell us what he wants of us.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:21

So you either believe scripture or you don't. To me, that's that's the that's what it amounts to. Like that's right. Like, is the word of God what it what Jesus says it is, um, or what what what we've come to know as God's holy word, infallible, um our guide of life, or is it just some cool things to read? Yeah what I mean. Is it just a literature book? Right. Yeah, so anyway, that doesn't have a cool Saturday, but no, but still, I think it does.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

I mean, we I've heard it said that we live in Saturday now. We live between the the resurrection and and the return. And I and and maybe I that's fine. I my thing is now is you know, I don't want to be like the disciples. I don't want to live afraid, and uh I don't want to live a lie. And so um the disciples had uh a full a full gosh from 3 p.m. on Friday until Sunday morning, they desperate they had this idea of what was going to have to happen. And uh so yeah, it was it was um yeah, I'm sure they talked about it. I'm sure I somebody probably said, didn't he say he was coming back? You know, I mean, didn't they? And so um, yeah, Saturday is an interesting day. And I think a lot of us live in Saturday with fear or lack of knowledge and uh ignorance, maybe even. And ignorance isn't a dirty word, it just means we don't know. Um, but there's no reason for us not to know. Uh scripture is clear that Jesus is coming back, and so we enter into Sunday morning. And Sunday morning, of course, is our resurrection Sunday, and um it's it's beautiful in that the first people to know that the tomb is empty are the the women, uh the four women who come back to the tomb to finish uh the burial prep because they didn't have time to fully prepare his body for burial on Friday. So in that time, the stone has been rolled across. The Roman leaders have said, you know, the Jewish leaders went to Rome, went to Pilate and said, Hey, uh, we got to make sure that his followers don't pull him out. There's all these theories about how Jesus' body was removed from the tomb. But notice that all those theories talk about Jesus' body not in the tomb. That's the beautiful part of it. They all have a thinking factor. He gone. And so uh, and and and it's great because they say dogs, some people say dogs ate his body, some people say the disciples overpowered the Roman guard and stole his body, and then they all died as as martyrs with the knowledge that they had stolen the body. People don't die for a lie. That's not how that happens. No, that's not how that happens. That is completely erroneous thinking. And so um uh the the best evidence is that Jesus got up and walked out, yeah. And uh that's the best evidence, especially with the hundreds of people who saw him afterwards. Because to overpower a guard. Oh my gosh. I mean He's flogged, he has a crown of thorns, and he's been crucified, and and even Jesus, if Jesus overpowered a guard, then that's proof again that he's he's more than just a moon.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:23

But for the for the disciples to steal the body, I mean I'm going that's insane. I'm thinking there's at least at least a couple guards there. Yeah. And and their job is so serious that if they fail, they fall on their own sword. That's right. Because otherwise they're just gonna get they're gonna get killed anyway by by the emperor. Um there's just so much there that just tells me that um if you accept that the tomb is empty, then you have to accept there's a God.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:54

That's right. There's there's no other way to really be in that in that in that mindset and to accept anything else. It's just right, it's not it's not a possibility. And um I I love it. Um, and I didn't look up the reference, and I was trying to see around if oh the guards report. When the uh Matthew chapter 28, verse 11, yeah, while the women were on their way, some of the guards went to the city, reported to the chief priest everything that had happened. In other words, they had seen something, the body was gone, the stone was rolled away. So it says when the chief priest had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, telling them, You are to say his disciples came during the night and stole him away while we were asleep. Guards did not fall asleep on duty. No again, they would have to die. It's there's no way, and so the Roman, so the Roman guards are are going, you know, what do we do? Did they go lie to their superiors about what happened?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:49

Or do you just go to the chief priests and say, Hey, this is what happened, and the chief priests know exactly what like they're dealing with, enough to buy off a guard.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

And then verse 14, if this report gets to the governor, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble. Yeah. Are you serious? There's that many lies surrounding this.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

We got your back. The disciples took it. Oh me. So it's just it's so it's so asinine to to think that uh in any other I mean cu because history proves the tomb is was empty. Sure. Yeah. The resurrection is the resurrection is a is a is a a verifiable thing. History says that when the tomb was looked into, there was nobody.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

Lee Strobel, Jay Warner Wallace, those guys all came at it from the attitude of we're going to disprove the resurrection. And if we can disprove the resurrection, then we can prove that Christianity is false. And they and at least those two that I can think of off the top of my head became Christians because of the evidence that they found. And and Strobel's a lawyer, and Jay Warner Wallace was a investigator detective.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

Murder and investigator.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

He said just the cold case evidence proved it to him. So when you look at at these things, um Josh McDowell, I think it kind of in the same way, when when we look at the evidence, we know that the resurrection is true. We know that the that to have women find the body first would have be would have been crazy to the Jews because the word of a woman wasn't worth anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:20

If you're gonna write a s a story, a tale about it, you're not gonna put women as the main heroes.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

No, not at all. And because it because to the Jews, they would just throw it out. They would say, you know, whatever. And yet the truth has to be told, and the truth is told. And so um And you don't die.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

No, you don't willingly die. Because that's the lie like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

And people I've had people bring up to me, well, well, a Muslim will die for their faith, but it's it's different. A Muslim believes their faith to be true. Yes, and the apostles went from being scared to be proven that what the resurrection was true, so therefore they willingly gave their lives afterwards. It's a different aspect.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:00

Well, and and and the the reasoning behind it. Yes. A Muslim, say like a suicidal Muslim, they're doing it to earn something. They have to die in jihad to be assured. Christianity that no, the if you die for your faith, it's not because you're going out and doing it yourself. Right. You're you're you're unwilling to turn your back on that truth. That's right. Um, and that's exactly what the disciples were. They were unwilling to allow any lie to come out of their mouth, even if that meant losing their life.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:34

Peter crucified upside down, history, uh, you know, extra biblical uh things tell us.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:39

And the only one to actually survive an attempt was John.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

And he and he he had a purpose, he had to write the book of Revelation, right? So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:47

And so uh one thing though I I I I find fascinating, which is a great debate, I think, uh amongst Christianity. Um in fact, my friend Kelly, uh, if he's listening to this, what up? Um Kelly was telling me he had a uh um uh he was preaching about uh Jesus uh descending into the depths. Uh-huh. And um he had a little lady stand up in his church and she said, You're trying to tell me my Jesus went to hell? And he's like, Well, the scripture says that he descended into the the Sheol or to you know that type of thing. And so um uh which which is commonly that realm referring to Hades and Sheol. Yeah. Um, and what did he do there? He proclaimed the good news to those and rescued them out of that before his resurrection. Yeah, um, that's what I man, I was that's what was taking place on Saturday.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:42

Yeah, and I've always held that to be Lazarus' bosom, the the play, um uh Abraham's bosom, sorry, where Lazarus and the rich man went. And I have no problem, you know, seeing Jesus, which was Sheol, which was this waiting place. And I have no problem um believing that Jesus went there to preach the truth to those who had loved the Lord, uh loved God before Jesus came, and um that he pre- Can you imagine? Can you imagine being in that place and you've held true to God all this time? You're in a place of waiting, and all of a sudden the Son of God appears and says, It's time. I did it, I did it, it's accomplished, let's go. Oh my gosh! And so uh what a what a beautiful thing. And whether you believe that that they stay in that place of waiting or what paradise is or whatever, called the heroine of hell is what it was called.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

Yeah, yeah. It's just that victory, like yeah, like right before the resurrection, like just to and actually it's part of the Apostles' Creed, uh, it's mentioned in the Apostles' Creed and is interpreted as part of its of his mission to conquer death and offer redemption to all, including those who died before his resurrection. That's why we have the Hebrews 11 chapter.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

That's right. Yeah, and Hebrews 11 is worth reading this week as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:53

Um that's supported in Ephesians 4 9, 1 Peter 4 6, and Matthew 12 40. Uh Jesus refers to being in the heart of the earth for three days, which is interpreted as a reference uh to this time in the realm of the dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

Yeah, and and prior to that he he referenced Jonah like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. Um he he said he would be. So yes, um I I That's why I love that song Days of Elijah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's worth it. I I I like yeah, and that's why a lot of times we get doctrine out of good music. Um so uh it it works out well. Good music. We won't go there today. Um we had a we had a private conversation, a prior conversation. We're not gonna go there today. Yeah, we we can we can have a whole podcast on that. Yeah, and we probably should. Maybe that's what we'll do next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:38

Um we'll but but the the resurrection Sunday um uh Easter, it's okay if you call it Easter. Yeah, it really is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

Um it's I had someone this weekend say you shouldn't call it Easter. I was like, guys, come on. It's it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:51

It's okay. Easter is just it's a new beginning. Um there's a lot of question as to the origins, and you know it. We celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Yep, that's right. If you want to get your kid an Easter basket, get the kid an Easter basket. Yeah. I mean it's fine. Yeah, you teach them the truth. Teach the truth, but get them some chocolate. I mean, it's not give your pastor some chocolate here.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

So I knew he was working towards that. I knew it was coming. Or coffee. Oh, coffee. I knew it was coming. I expected coffee first.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:23

But the also in in the in the the the resurrection Sunday, we've got uh the disciples on uh Emmaus Road and Peter. Um so Mark 28 uh sorry, Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, John 20. Yeah. Great passages to read on the resurrection. And to me, this whole weekend, Good Friday, Saturday, Sunday, is the crux of Christianity. It is. Um if Jesus did not die, if he did not raise in in in then it would have been wrong. If if he just died and stayed in the grave, it'd have been a lie. Right. So all of this this weekend, the Good Friday, the Saturday, the Sunday, if that did not happen, you have no hope at eternity. Um you can't say, Well, Christ died on the cross, that's good enough for me. That isn't good enough. No, it's not the resurrection seals that whole promise. And so without the resurrection, there is no life eternal. That's right. Period. Yep. And so um, yes, the the crucifixion was uh was terrible. Um the the the sin was defeated, but death is defeated at the resurrection.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

That's right. And ultimately Satan. Yes. It's where Satan's head is crushed according to Genesis three fifth f uh three fifteen. And um, and and it's beautiful thing about I guess as a preacher I always look at the end of it because um uh I want to know what the conclusion is. And so I guess my question is is what are you gonna do next Monday about all of it? I mean there's stuff to do now to remember and to be in a in a good head space for all this, but what is your life gonna be like on Monday because of what of Jesus what Jesus has done this week and what we celebrate as as this week and the the memorial of it. Yeah. So no, that's good stuff. We're at about an hour and thirteen, so one of our longer ones, but uh hopefully you've stuck in there with us and uh we still have one more element though to come. Uh yeah, I think I think it was well. Uh are you talking about that or what we talked about? Okay, yeah, yeah. Well we just talked about it. I mean it it's one of our longer ones, but it I think it's it's look, we do we answer a lot of questions. I was going over them today. Our most listened to podcast so far has been the one on the rapture.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:42

Um and uh and we passed uh I don't know, a thousand, twelve hundred, I can't remember, or fifteen, I can't remember. So a lot of you are listening, and we really appreciate that. Um again, we don't get anything from this. This isn't we're not monetizing, there's nothing to this for us. We do this because we love our church and we love our people, and we just want people to um to know. And so I hope that you can take this as a devotional aspect this week or a knowledge aspect this week or whatever you would and and put it to good use.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:08

And and now I'll try to again, I'll I'll try to put that we'll put uh that list of um the Bible reading plan from Pascal to uh to the Pentecost, day of Pentecost.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:18

Um Yeah. And it and it may take it. What I'll what I'll say, I'll try to get this posted as soon as possible. Um once we get that posted, continue. If you if you want that, come back because we may not I may not have time to get that in there today. Right. But I will excuse me, I will get it in there this week and um make sure that you guys have that. So check back if you listen to this early.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:36

And no, the resurrection was a physical resurrection. Yes. Full or physical, fully physical. Yes. It was not a spiritual event, it was a physical event. That's why he told him he could touch they could touch his hands and touch his hands and his side. That's right. And that's when Thomas said, My Lord and my God. That's right. Um don't ever let any quote unquote Bible preacher or whatever tell you that is a a spiritual event. Um that is a It's a heresy, isn't it? That's a heresy, I mean that that to me is a is an essential.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

Yeah. I oh yeah, I would say that fits into the essentials. Absolutely. The bodily resurrection of Christ. That is an essential. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:15

If if you don't believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ, we can't have fellowship.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:19

Yeah. And so we would we would want you to read the scriptures and to understand and look at the proofs. Right. The way that they're delivered. So all right, good stuff. Um, let's finish as always with our dad joke 3,000. And um, and Dan is going to um make sure gosh, I had to get it in one more time. Um we'll uh see what our dad joke 3000 has for us today.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:45

And again, uh, once it starts repeating, then we're gonna have to come up with our own dad joke.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

We'll have to come up with something. So we figured out.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:51

I always have a bunch, but they never come to my mind on this time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

I know, I have tons, but I can't remember any.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:55

Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:57

Liar ghosts, such bad liars. You can see right through them.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:03

That was pretty good. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. I'll take it in. Alrighty. That was I'll allow that one. All right, so do we have a boo button? Um, no, but I can make one. I need to make that. See, that'd be that'd be kind of cool if it was like you know. Uh well, that'd work. Yeah, I could do record scratch. I could do that. Okay. We'll do a record scratch next time. Um if if it's if it's if it's bad. Well, we'll have to I we'll have to do thumbs up or thumbs down. So we'll do it. All right, guys. We love you. I hope you have a wonderful passion week. Dan, thanks. We'll see ya.