Happy Father's Day! How to be a Godly Man and Father!

Happy Father's Day! 

We pray that your experience with your dad was good, but we also have to acknowledge that it might not have been. As the saying goes, "Anyone can become a father, but it takes work to be a good dad."

Whatever your experience we pray that God is using that to build the person you are becoming and have become. We hope that God can bring forgiveness and healing to each and every situation.

Join Dan and Scott this week as we talk about Fatherhood, Godly Manhood and what it means to generations of kids, communities and even worlds when men be who they are supposed to be.

And the great news today is three fold. 1) It's never too late to be a great dad. 2) You're not alone, you never were. and 3) Jesus is for you. 

Isn't that good news? Remember, feel free to leave fan mail or send us emails if you would like to tell us something.

We are praying for you! Stand strong!

Produced, edited and hosted by Scott Askew and Dan Daugherty

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Welcome to the Creek cast, everybody. This is Scott and Dan. We are coming to you uh live from my office. I don't think we've ever talked about where we actually recorded.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

No.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Um we record in a corner in the office, and I have a lamp.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

But when you listen to this, it won't be live.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

That's that's true. So are we really here? I didn't know we were gonna get all metaphysical today, but okay. If a bear poops in the woods, does it smell? The answer to that is yes. I just made that up. Oh the answer to that is absolutely yes. Oh me, it is good to be with you guys. Dan, how you doing? Super. Good. Uh we are um, it's funny. We were talking about what to do for today, and we were um Nina was downstairs uh with us. We were talking about it, and um we asked Taron her thoughts, and Tyron never really said anything. And uh Nina suggested Father's Day, and so we thanked Nina, and then we thanked Taron for just existing and helping us uh make decisions. So it's good that we have women in our lives to tell us that's right what we should talk about. So um that's that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Which is if you're married, you understand.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

That's exactly right. And that might come into play today.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Talking about Father's Day. I'm sure Stephanie does the same thing for you, doesn't she?

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Yes. No, I'm not even gonna try to lie.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

But it's funny because you can you can because our wives don't listen to the podcast. So right.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

And that's so we can pretty much say whatever we want. That's right. Um I'm going to spend $400 after this on a piece of plastic. No, I'm just kidding. I'm not saying I couldn't even think of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

I know you well enough, you're not going to spend $400. No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

I am I am quite cheesy with my money. So um anyway, uh, it is good to be with y'all today. We are going to discuss a little bit about Father's Day. So if you're a dad listening in, we really want to um encourage you today. Uh I think a lot of times, and Dan and I have joked about it a lot in the years we've known each other. Mother's Day, we tend to preach sermons that really uh encourage mothers and lift mothers up, and it's rosy and flowery, and we do that. And then Father's Day, we tend to get all hellfire and brimstone from the pulpit, and we're like, Dad, you're screw-ups, you know, get this right, blah, blah, blah. And so we want the podcast today to really be encouraging. Uh, we want it to be something that guys, you can listen to and actually take something from affectively that you can apply to your life and uh hopefully be encouraged to do um to do more of or or a little bit better. Um the iron sharpens iron concept, and uh that's what we're hoping for today.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

So um before we get started though, go ahead. Did you know Father's Day was founded in Spokane, Washington? Really? At the YMCA in 1910 by Sonora Smart Dodd, who was born in Arkansas, Arkansas.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Dude, it's it's too close to Monday. Arkansas. Arkansas. Anyway, yeah, I didn't know that. I did not know that either. I know that Mother's Day was invented by a lady who wanted to honor her mom, and then Abraham Lincoln got a hold of it or some president and made it into more than what she wanted. And so anyway, it wasn't Abe Lincoln, it was somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

She but um she, Sonora, uh, was the daughter of an American Civil War veteran, William Jackson Smart, and was responsible for the founding of Father's Day.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

That's cool. Very cool. At the YMCA. That's weird, but cool.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Um so uh and coincidentally, or not, we were buying Father's Day cards yesterday, uh-huh, and usually we're terrible about sending Father's Day cards. My mom's mom's day, we've got we get flowers delivered, everything. Right. Father's Day, I'm always like, oh yeah, it's Father's Day. So anyway, um, and we're looking at cards, and there are a lot of happy Farters Day cards. Yes. Which tells you a lot about dads.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

And Americans.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Yeah. And and and what what are we what are we doing? We're laughing while we're reading. Happy Farters Day. I mean Father's Day.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

They're turning the dad jokes back on us. Oh no, that's good. I I've really I guess part of this could be uh talking about our our journey as fathers, and of course it will be, and and our dads, but um we taught I talk about my dad all the time and and um this will be let's see, it's 2026, so this will be forty no thirty-one years um that I haven't had my dad for Father's Day. And and it changes, it changes perspective quite a bit. And um, I always say the Mother's Day sermon is hard to preach, but the Father's Day sermon for me is always difficult to preach as well because it brings back so many so many memories for me. And I I it was a good it they're good memories for me. I know not all not all people can say they have good memories of their dad. I have fantastic memories of my dad. My dad was a great dad, and and I'm very thankful for that. And um he he he broke a cycle of alcoholism that was generational and uh he he decided to break that. He he was always for my brother and I. He was he would take off work to go to our games. I mean, he was loved our mother. I mean, just um just a just a good dad and a and a wonderful Christian his last ten years, just a an amazing Christian who helped me get on the path that I've always been on. So very thankful for that. And Father's Day reminds me of that, and I'm thankful for that. It's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

I do not have that story.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

I know, I know. We sat one night um in an elders' meeting, and uh I don't know if you remember, but we were talking about our dads, and uh all of us were kind of going around talking about our dads, and uh a lot of the guys in there that night told stories about their dads that weren't great stories and they were hard stories, and and they're not my stories to tell. So they can come on here and tell them if they want to, but they were hard to listen to. And I remember sitting there feeling guilty because um I didn't have any of those stories, I didn't have uh stories of abuse or uh even alcoholism or anything like that because I I just didn't have them. And I Rob Anderson was in there as well, and Rob I knew didn't have any of those stories.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

He had a great dad, and uh, he had a great dad.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

And so I think both of us were kind of sitting there feeling it, and I had my head down and it came up, and I don't know if I said it or Rob said it or who said it, and we said, Well, you know, I don't have those stories. And I think it was Jack, I can't remember who it was, but one of the other elders who had told a rough story said, No, we need your stories too, because we need the example of what dads can be. Right, right. And um, and that that made me feel better because I really felt like um, you know, not not that I would go back and change anything, but I uh for me, I but I would go back and would I go back and change it for all of them, it made them the men that they are. And I sit in a room of leaders with one sitting across from me right now of men that I admire. And um, I don't know if they would be the men they were without that. You know, we don't know what that's right, we don't know our experiences that suffering brings. So anyway, yeah uh it was a good night, good eye-opening night for me.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Yeah, yeah. I mean, for sure I'm not um I'm not anything like my my dad. Right. So and and that's that's something that um my dad or stepdad actually um and my stepdad, he's he's come he's come full circle from where he was. Um and and but my my real dad, I mean, I mean I love him and you know that you know we we we talk and stuff like that, but we're we're not at all the same person, and I'm proud of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

So well, I'm glad you're able to talk. I'm glad you're able to have the relationship because that's awesome. And I know some of you guys listening may be in the camp with me where we had good fathers, and uh you may be in the camp with Dan where it was rough, and so um, you know, just I think one of the most important things for dads, and I'll just open up with this, and it's not in my little list here. I looked up a list and Dan looked up a list because it's just good to have some some points to hold on to, and we're gonna tell some dad jokes at the end and we're gonna have some fun. But we do want to be serious about it to the place where we can um hopefully gain something. And I I really think that the way the world treats dads, fathers, men today, I think there's a lot of isolation thinking. And um I we want you to know that you're not alone. You may think you are, whether it's uh uh hidden alcohol uh addiction or drug addiction or whether it's uh pornography in the closet, you know, whatever it is that it is, Satan's gonna repeatedly tell you, hey, you're alone in this, you're the only one weak, you're the only one suffering. And that's all lies. And um when we acknowledge our weaknesses and are able to come together with those things, we're able to prop each other up and help each other. And so um don't don't listen to this podcast and when we talk about things that are troublesome, don't think, oh, I'm the only one who suffers because you're you're not not even close. So let's uh let's let's encourage one another, brothers. Let us be iron sharpened iron and let's hold on to one another. And ladies, if you're listening, um be encouraged that um uh hopefully you can uh let your let your husband listen to this or let your son listen to this, and right now it would be where or let your dad listen to this and it would be something uh honoring God for them.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

And encourage your husband. Yes, encourage your dad. Um because the problem uh that I really see in our in our culture today is we I mean men are being imma uh emasculated constantly. Um and um, you know, one one thing I mean we're probably gonna hit on it, but you know, men we're we're created with um an aggression, yeah, naturally. Um it's how do you use the aggression? Right. And that that's you know, and but but our our society's so um fixated on this idea of toxic masculinity. Now now I understand that there are there are ways that men live that are not good. Absolutely, yeah. And so there is a toxicity to uh some of the lifestyle choices. Some of the lifestyle choices, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Um but but for me But just being a man is not a toxic that's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Or or or um, you know, being being um a little rough around the edges is not is not toxic necessarily. Um you know, having have an aggression or uh you know, that's not toxic. Uh toxic is when it begins to hurt people and hurt themselves and that type of stuff, when it doesn't honor God. Right. But but the problem is is a lot of uh couples that I've I've counseled over the years or families that I've dealt with over the years have have have no there's no encouragement from the wife to her husband of of you know just appreciating. Yeah um one of my favorite shows uh growing up and don't judge me is The Simpsons. Um but that's the way society paints dads is as a Homer Simpson. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

A buffoon.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

A buffoon, an idiot who's always making mistakes, can't do anything right. People have to come to his rescue all the time. Yeah. Um and or the albundies, where he's just kind of there as a chauvinist, like you know, people. Emotional abuser to a degree. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, it maybe in some cases it is, but um I I even think about my own dad um who I mean, yeah, he wasn't a great example. Um and and I mean, and to a point, it still isn't a great example of just uh being a godly dad because he's he's not a Christian. Um but I can look back and say, you know, that you know, it was it was rough with him, not because he was he himself was abusive to me or to you know to my sisters, but he was just absent. And that wasn't, you know, that that we needed a presence, right? Um, and so uh, but then my stepdad was always there, right? But yet that's where like the discipline was to the nth degree. I mean, like I deserved a spanking, but man, I got you got whooped. I got whooped, and it was it was borderline abuse, it was abuse in a lot of cases, uh, but he was always there, right? And so like like every situation's different. Um, but um, you know, my mom never encouraged him.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

He she disemasculated him, yeah, along with culture, yeah, and that was back in the 80s and 90s. Yeah. Um I never heard an encouraging, like, hey, you're doing a great job. Right. I know it's hard. I appreciate the hard work you're putting in. Right. Um, you know, none of none of that was ever present. Um, and unfortunately, um, and that wasn't a Christian marriage at all. Right. Um, but unfortunately, even in Christian marriages, in in our current state of of being right now in 2026, there's there's not enough encouraging of of dad and of husband.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

It it's become kind of a comedic thing. We hear com comedians talk about it all the time about the relationships of the and even Dangerfield, you know, years ago. What do you say? Uh my wife and I were perfectly happy for 30 years and then we met. Yeah. And um I get no respect. Yeah, I get no respect. You know, and uh, and so we get this. I agree with you. I think that ladies, if you want to see a new husband, um encourage him a little bit. I I mean, because guys, uh you know, we always talk about how guys are low-level superheroes, they want to believe that they can do anything, but they're gonna lose that if it's just like a it's just like a young girl, I've got to give a talk next week on bullying to um fourth, fifth, and sixth graders at a camp. And um and if if I go in there and tell a fourth grade girl that she's ugly, she's gonna believe that. That's right. And if you don't encourage your husband, then over time he's going to believe that there's nothing worth that's right. He can't do anything wrong. Everything he does is wrong.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Yep. So so do you know what happens when you do that? They stop trying. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

And they go downhill. And and it's not that so there has to be an encouragement there. So lay while we're not, I mean, I mean, we've really turned the page here. We're punching, you know, in back at women. But at the same time, it really goes to the idea that women have a lot of control in a marriage by encouraging their husbands. I'm not saying it's gonna fix everything. No, no. I'm just saying that if it's not there, yeah, then it's gonna hurt.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

But I mean, we we are we're talking about dads today. Yeah, Father's Day's on Sunday. That's right. And that's just, you know, we're we're speaking to dads, but we're also speaking to to wives and mothers. Yeah. Um that uh, you know, if you would, if you would just as you listen to this, look, look and examine your own life right now. And um sometimes I mean not all men are worthy of respect. No. And and and part of this is a two-way street. Like, like when you say when you give vows and you do your vows at your wedding, um, you are e each one of you promising something, and that's to be there. And so sometimes your husband doesn't fulfill his vows.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

That doesn't mean you stop fulfilling yours. That's right. You continue to fulfill yours because you are not only did you make a vow to him, you made it to God as well.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

And so you live the way you're supposed to live towards him in hopes that he sees what what's going on and and he realizes the error of his ways. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Because the table's turned. Right. Yeah. And and it could be the opposite. Right. Yeah, and saying vice versa.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Maybe men, you have to continue living your vows, even if your wife isn't living hers. That's exactly right. Um, you know, because uh you'll never hear from Scott and myself, you just go ahead and divorce. Oh no, you will you will never hear that. I believe every marriage can be saved. Yep. Um Through grace and forgiveness, every marriage can be. What happens with that is it it usually involves um one at least one partner saying, you know what, I'm not giving up on this person and I'm gonna live my vows. And I tell I tell couples this all the time. I don't care what your husband's doing right now. I mean, I do, yeah, but you continue being who you're supposed to be for him, and you put the ball in his court. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

And then if it and then if it fails, it's it it really is. Then you then you can't say that you know, I did everything properly. I I I stayed faithful, I encouraged, I loved, I upheld my end. Right. And uh, because that's what a covenant is. A covenant is me going, I'm I'm entering a covenant to say I'm going to do my part of this no matter what the other party does. A contract's different. A contract is I'll fulfill my part if you're not going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

As long as you fulfill yours, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

But a covenant is I'm gonna do my part no matter what you do.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Yeah, because marriage is not a contract. No, it's certainly not. So yeah, and so it just just encouragement, ladies, that uh as you as you listen today, um, please um find find a way that you can encourage your husband. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I mean, even if it's nothing but you walk up to him and say, Hey, you're a good dad, thanks. And if he's not a good dad, then then find something you can compliment him on and thank him for it.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Start small. Start small.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah. Good. And then and then, you know, encourage, encourage him. Because, you know, like without looking at the status, something like, you know, when when dad is is on board with his with faith, yeah, there's like a 93% success rate of the whole family coming to faith. Um, that's huge. It's huge. And so, and so if you can just encourage like if you're a believer as a woman and your husband's really not there, keep encouraging him and exposing him to who Christ is. That's right. Um, through through your grace and your mercy toward towards him. And this is not this is a disclaimer as well. That is does not mean if you're being abused that you have to put up with that.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

No, that's right. No. So abuse is never an excuse for anything.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

I I know there's a pastor right now out there that's being listened to that's been talking about um uh women have to stay in the marriage because even if they're being abused, they have to respect their husbands as staying that. No. And and that is false.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

No, you you create distance. That's right. And then you you both get counseling, you figure it out if the marriage is to continue.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Um, but no, that's but but if you want if you want your husband closer to Jesus, then be Jesus to him. That's right. And show him who Jesus is. Yeah. Um get involved in a in a in a church family. If you're if you're listening to us and you're not part of our church, uh go find a church that you guys can go to as a family, that's right, um, as couples, um, that type of stuff. Find good Christian company, yeah um, and and begin to surround yourself with that because the more exposure he gets, the better. And and you know, and if he turns that corner, and again, that growth is up to God. It's not it's not us. That's right. As you plant new water those seeds, you keep you keep praying that God causes the increase. That's right. And if that happens, it changes a whole dynamic of a family for generations.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah, I mean, it's it's not just right now, right? It's for I mean, I think of Lee Strobel's wife who who got down on her knees beside the bed every night praying that her husband would become a Christian before they got in bed. And Lee was an atheist lawyer who finally decided to disprove Christianity, and he tried, and it became all he could find was proof of Christianity. And so he's written the case for faith and the case for Christ, the case for Easter, and the case for Christmas. And um, he was the teaching pastor, may still be at one at um Willow Creek.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

He was there for a while. I'm not sure where he is now, but he is still in the ministry.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yeah. But I mean, just that his wife was so bold to get down beside the bed and thank God for her atheist husband, but at the same time pray that God would assault his heart and he can become a Christian. I think that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

I mean, because if if if you take a look at like the the world around us right now, I mean, everybody's so consumed with their happiness that they f they forego the covenant relationships that we have. Yeah um, and so you know, a lot of times women will be in a relationship with a man and they'll get married, and the guy, I mean, uh, and and we've seen it, um, maybe you guys listening have experienced it where you you date one person and then when you get married, they change into a different person. Yeah. Um, you know, so but people are always like, Well, I'm just not happy, I'm not happy, I'm not happy. Um, instead of fighting the good fight, like uh the case like Lee Strobel's wife, uh, where she instead of leaving her atheist husband after she became a Christian, she began to pray for him and encourage him and love him still. Um and just I I mean it was years, guys.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

It's not like it was four nights. It was years.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

I mean, it but that that's a dedication. I and I think you know, um, in our culture today, we need better praying wives and we need better praying husbands because sometimes the rules are reversed where dad is and husband is coming to church and he is sold out for Christ, but but mom is not. Um, you know, we we know of a of a few situations that way just in in our lives right now.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Um, you know, but I guarantee you those guys, those guys, they're still praying every day for their wife, and they're trying to be who they're supposed to be for their wife. And yeah, that's the way relationship is supposed to work. You know, we hear we hear that happy, happy wife, happy life, and that's just it's a funny saying. Happy spouse. Happy happiness. Yeah. It's just like you've both got to give you gotta you gotta give everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

We did a study one time at at my last church, and the catchphrase for the study was um marriage isn't meant to make you happy, it's meant to make you holy.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

And that was I you know, and I think you can say that a couple different ways, but the this the point of life is holiness and righteousness before God. It's not happiness. That's right. And so, and that really bored home in me, you know, that yeah, I'm not gonna be happy in every situation in life, but every situation in life, every situation in life has has the ability, whether it and we will talk about this in the future, suffering or whether it's joy or whatever, every everything I can give glory to God for and it can draw me close to him in holiness and righteousness. And so that's what we want to do.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

And and uh so anyway, that that's the long caveat of what we're about to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

So we're just gonna list off some things and the scripture that goes with it. So if you're listening and you have um you have uh you know some you can open up notes on your phone or whatever and take down some notes, uh just some good scripture that you can read as we go along, and we'll just go back and forth, kind of share points and bounce off each other as we do this.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

So also some of the the um uh podcast platforms will give you trans uh transcribes uh so and ours will too.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Yeah. If you go to the Buzz Sprout link um that we provide on Facebook and on our website, and I think in our app, if you go to the Buzz Sprout link, it has the transcript. And I'm not sure if it does it in iTunes now.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

They will for certain ones. I'm not sure. I haven't checked it.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Yeah, I haven't checked ours. So but it auto-transcribes in Buzz Sprout. So um if you want to go to Buzz Sprout Link and and check that out, uh you certainly can if you miss if you miss some scripture or some of the points that we make or whatever. Um I've noticed that iTunes also lately is doing a better job of um classifying these podcasts as we switch into different categories while we're talking, it'll do a better job of um restructuring uh uh re telling us what it does. Yes, Apple Apple does do a transcript. Apple does do a transcript. Nice. So yeah, good. So on Apple II, and I that's our favorite pod. Well, that's my favorite podcast, but uh that's where I listen to everything. All right. So Dan, you want to get us started with uh sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I I I just wanted to go over a just a godly man in general. Yeah, I think it's good. And and this will apply to uh uh any male, no matter you know your your age and and status of of marriage or whatever. So uh scripture is very clear on what a godly man looks like. Um and so why we try to add things and take away things, it's just it's beyond me. If guys, if we just stick to scripture, yeah, we're gonna be fine. That's right. So first of all, a godly man repents when he sins. Yeah. So a part of godliness is understanding that first of all, you're not gonna be perfect, right? Um, but you recognize when you are when you are in in a sin, and you're you're and I'm just gonna use your man enough to admit that and repent. Right. And and not just say you're sorry, but to repent. To turn away from it. To turn away from it. To feel godly sorrow. Right. For what's done. First John 1.9 says, if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That is that that concept of of repentance. Like where when we are when we are confessing before God what we've done, and we are developing in and I teach it this way, you develop a hatred towards sin. Right. Doesn't mean you won't ever return to that sin, right? But you've developed a hatred for it so that when you do return to that sin, and if you do return that sin, you know immediately you don't belong there. That's right. There's no there's there's no fleshly desire there that that is that is gonna be better than understanding God's grace, you know, type of things.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

And even if you commit that sin, I think it's also important to realize the disgust that you feel afterwards is a godly sorrow disgust, is something that you know you shouldn't have done. And yes, it feels guilty, but that's what repentance and confession and prayer are all about, asking for forgiveness.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

And along with that is this idea of considering yourself uh dead to sin. Yes. Um, so you're dead to that, but you're alive in Christ. So I mean, Romans 6, 1 through 4 talks about that. Um, you know, that don't you know that if you've been uh baptized into his death, burial, and resurrection, that you've been baptized into uh Christ in order that as he is raised from the dead, you too will be raised from the dead to the glory of the Father. Um, in in order to walk in what? Newness of life. So um, and then verse 11 says, So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive in God.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Good.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Um so also a godly man is a servant rather than demanding that he be served. Yep. Um, I meet too many selfish men. Oh, a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

There's a lot of selfishness in manhood.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

Yeah. I just I just I don't understand it as a dad. Yeah. And as uh I mean, I I had I had a discussion with a man uh in in a previous ministry who seemed to have a a new truck every six months, it seemed like, but his kids' shoes were falling off of off their feet, uh, holes in their clothes. Um, I mean, just and so I I approached him, I said, I said, the reality is, guy, is that you have all this new stuff and your kids are are suffering. I said, that that should be complete opposite. You should you should be driving the hoopty, yeah, and your kids have the best best stuff because that's what a dad does. Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

I mean, I I I can't remember, and and you you're probably the same way that um in ministry, we're not always paid the best. Um in pat you know, especially in past ministries, we're severely underpaid, but God always provided, whether it's you know, every October is past your appreciation month, and you know, the little gifts that we get there, and and bonuses a blessing. Bonuses you get at Christmas time. I mean, uh I at least in my experience, I I've had a couple ministries that really took care of me, even though I wasn't paid very well. Right. Um, I never spent that on myself. Right. And I'm not I'm not I'm not tooting my own horn. Right, right, right. But what I'm saying is like I always looked at my kids and said, what do they need?

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

And if my kids were taken care of, what does my wife need? You know, and and uh I I remember getting a pastor appreciation gift that was that was rather large. And uh somebody gave it, somebody gave it to Nina because they couldn't find me. Yeah, it was it was a it was anyway, it was a card or something like that. And uh so I didn't know I had gotten the gift. And so um we went and had lunch after church, and then uh she says, let's go to let's go to Sportsman's warehouse. I she said, I wanted to look at I want to look at something. I was like, okay. So I'm all I'm always about like stop at Bass Pro, stop at Cabela's, whatever, just go look around. Um I like to window shop and dream. Um, but uh anyway, so so we get there and and we we're looking around a bit, and she's looking at some shoes, and I'm looking at some boots. And anyway, uh we start getting back to the hunting section and you know, fishing section. And anyway, um she said, I I want to go look over here. So we walk over to the guns. And she said, she said, if you could, if you could have one, which one would you want? I said, I don't know. I I've got a shotgun, you know. Um anyway, she said, I'm buying you a gun today. And I said, We can't afford that. And she goes, What gun do you want? And I'm like, wait a minute, we can't afford this. And she said, I have a gift that was given to me for you for uh pastor appreciation, and it I know that you never you never spend this on yourself, so we're going to buy you a gun today, and I could not talk this woman out of it. And so uh, but that but that's that's the only time that I've ever I can remember like just going in and spending that, you know, and again, it's not to say, hey, look at what I've done, right? But I was modeled completely opposite of that. I was modeled the the way of like, you know, uh we I never had, but you know, yeah. And so um, so I I decided I was gonna be different than that when I became a dad, that I was gonna make sure that my kids had everything that they needed, that they would not want, like I had to want.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Um, and so uh, but that's just a that's just a mind shift, but that's what it means in my mind. Uh, and I saw my grandfather doing this, uh, he served my grandma. Right. He served us grandkids. Um, he never asked us to do anything for him. Yeah. Um, he it was always like, What what do you need? What can I do for you? And so um having that example from him and then also being really poor growing up, um, that that instilled in me that that's that's the way a man needs to be. And so occasionally we see, you know, we see that that good example. And that's what a godly man is, is that he's he's a servant. He's always looking out for the good of others. I mean, Mark 10, 45 says, For even the Son of Man came to be served, or sorry, came not to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many. Yeah, a godly man leads by example. Uh 1 Timothy 4 12, uh, let no one despise you for your youth, but set the example. Um, uh, and that is any age. And if you're married, a godly man loves his wife as Christ has loved the church. Um, and that's a sacrificial thing where like Christ died for the church. Right. Husbands, we need to be willing to lay it down our lives for our wives. Yeah, we talked about that a couple weeks ago. In a physical, spiritual, all those senses. Um, uh a godly man lives in sexual purity, honoring God with his body. Um, first Corinthians 6 18, flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin is a a person commits is outside the body, but a sexual and moral person sins against his own body. Um, Romans 12, 1 through 2 tells us not to be um uh given into the worldly uh uh mindset, but to allow our minds to be transformed. That's Dan paraphrase. Um godly man seeks to be continually filled with the Holy Spirit, uh, and which is which is crazy because we think, well, I'm a Christian, so I have the Holy Spirit, which is true. You have the Holy Spirit, but I I think I think we we often ignore what that means. Yeah. And so um I think daily we need to preach the gospel to ourselves, we need to ask the Holy Spirit to to be present. Um, and it and we know he's there. Yeah, it's just acknowledging the fact that he's there.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Yeah, I've always thought about it like a C B radio. If I'm if I want to hear somebody, I have to get on the right channel. But the old school C B radios, you had that squelch. Yes. And um, I think sometimes we can turn up that squelch and squelch the Holy Spirit, but we have to be able to we have to tune correctly. We have to make sure that we're we're allowing him to speak through us, but um, he is he is not gonna overwhelm you. Right. If you squelch him, he will be he will not be heard. And we have to train that in ourselves. We have to allow ourselves to be trained.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

And a passage for that is Ephesians 5.18, and do not get drunk with wine, uh, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the spirit. Um, Acts 13, 52, and the disciples were filled with joy and the Holy Spirit. You know, there's this, there's this constant of uh of of focus of the spirit that lives within you in living through that spirit. Uh also a couple more godly man desires to please the Lord more than himself. Um again, it's it's uh beyond selfishness. So now this is this is beyond the selfishness of between us and and another person. Right. This is between us and God now. Uh our desire should be to please the Lord in all that we do.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

All that we do. If you're if you're a godly man, that is your goal is to lift up the name of Jesus Christ, to to live in such a way where he gets the glory for everything. Yep. Um difficult, but but that's what we're to strive to do. 2 Corinthians 5, 9. So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. And finally, a godly man bears fruit for the kingdom of God. Um scripture is very clear that not all people who call out Lord, Lord, will be in heaven. And so what does that mean? It means that just because you say you believe, just because you might come to church, doesn't mean that you're going to be in heaven. That you've ever submitted to the authority of the heavy.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Because if yeah, yeah, that you've ever accepted him as savior, that you've ever a mark of somebody who has is good fruit.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

That's right. And so when you to bear fruit for the kingdom of God, it means that your life looks like what you say you believe.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

And if it doesn't look like that, if if if what you say and what you do are complete opposites, it doesn't mean you won't sin. Again, uh again, I I think people people will take this and explode and like, well, well, that person's not saved then. No, no. God knows the heart, and if your life is not producing on a regular basis good fruit, yeah, then you have to re-examine do you have you ever surrendered yourself to Jesus?

SPEAKER_01 35:17

It's hard for the modern church to understand that is because we have so many different things that are in the way of this, and we just accept that as a Christian, I'm I'm gonna be a Christian, but I'm gonna look a lot like the world because that's just the way it is. Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

And we're gonna we're gonna sin anyway. We're gonna sin.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

So it's okay. It's okay if I and I mean, and I always cussing is the first one that comes to mind. I'm not against you saying a cuss word every now and then, but if you're going to make argument that you can drop F-bombs wherever you want to drop F-bombs, then we are gonna I I am gonna bring up the unwholesome talk and I am gonna bring up, you know, the what we say and praise God, um, uh salt water, fresh water. I I am gonna bring up those passages, but I don't have an argument against a cuss word. I have an argument against the state of a heart. That's right. And that's what you know we we have to understand that when we come to Christ, it's it's everything about us is new. We we are raised in newness of life. It's not a it's not a bet get better thing, it's a brand new life. And I think a lot of Christians live like, well, you know, the world's world's going to hell in a handbasket, so I I can just kind of live like that. It's okay to live as a hellion. And uh, and I'll go to church and say I'm sorry, but um man, Monday, I'm just gonna do kind of what I want because that's what that's what it's like. It's not, and we don't have enough imagery of men or women living the the proper Christian life, right? We don't have that, we have uh we have too much cultural Christianity as well. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what it's exactly what it is. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

Yeah, yeah. It it's not a it's not a complete sellout to who Christ is. Um, because what you're doing goes back to the desire to please the Lord more than yourself. Right. And so if if you're if you're putting cursing over uh and you're making an issue like, oh, they're just words I can see, you know, I have the freedom to say what I want, you know. Yeah, what you're doing is you're desiring yourself more than you are the Lord. Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

If you stub your toe and say a cuss word or get mad and say a cuss word, that's one thing. Right. If you're consistently using or or even even if we say spiritual cannib spiritually cannibalizing, gossiping about people, whatever it is that you use your mouth for, and the mouth is just such an easy example. Yeah, James says it's a like the bit of a horse or a spark that sets a forest on fire, you know, or a rudder of a ship. But if it it's so easy to to dictate that in our heads that if I'm allowing my mouth to do things and say things that it shouldn't be, then the question becomes, and that's why Jesus said it's not what goes into a man, but what comes out of him that makes him makes him unholy.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

We talked you talked about that on Sunday. That's the end that's the end of the passage that you preach on Sunday was you know the idea of of the mouth speaks what's what's uh what's in the heart.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

The overhoot flow of the heart. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

And so so yeah, in in in in for first of all, bear fruit for the kingdom of God comes from John 15. Uh I'm the vine, you are the branches. Um but when when we're when we're uh I love UFC. Love UFC, love UFC. I gotta go back and watch it. It was fantastic. And and I've I mean I've could you say none of them went the distance, none of them went the distance. But there's a there was a TKO or a KO in every fight. Wow. It was awesome. But anyway, um, so I I've liked UFC for years. I mean, my friend Casey and I used to buy the fights and invite uh people over to our homes and stuff and take turns buying the fights. And now it's just Paramount Plus. Now it's Paramount Plus, and all we gotta do is pay that. Actually, it's part of my uh Walmart Plus. Yeah, so it's awesome. Anyway, um, so uh but what what always gets me is that this this fight on Saturday, uh there was a guy, uh I think he was Brazilian, barely could speak English, barely. But the first thing he did uh when he was asked about the fight at the at the post post fight interview in the in the ring or in the in the octagon there, um, is he shared the gospel in English.

unknown 39:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Quoting John 3 16 and like just just poured out and like none of the words he said after that were were contrary to what he just preached. Right. As opposed to some of these other guys who were because I was gonna ask, did he go off and say no, but but everybody else did. I just want to give all God, God the glory. It's because of Jesus I'm saved, and like he'd like I I hit that mother effer, and you know, I'm not going. It's not stupid. It's like it's like, come on. You like like you you you had an you had a moment where you could glorify God and then you turned it right back on yourself.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

And that's what the Bible says with the same mouth you do both things, and we think it's right. And James is like, may it never be. This is stupid, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:58

And I I've heard people say, Well, I was spent a whole career in the military or I did this, and it doesn't matter. And it's like it doesn't matter. You have a choice to make, just like I have a choice to make. I was I was a I was a cussing kid, man. I mean, my my parents allowed me to cuss in in in the house. That was not something I couldn't burp at the table, but I could I could call my my family an F whatever, you know. Wow. But I couldn't burp at the table.

unknown 40:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

And so anyway, that's a good example, I'm afraid, of what the the standard that this world lives by.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Yeah. I I know kids that that that can't say fart. Yeah. And their parents don't like them saying fart, but their parents cuss like sailors and the kids cuss like sailors, but they can't say fart. All I'm trying to say is we have to we we have to decide what it is um as believers that we are willing to um allow to overtake our faith. And and it should be nothing.

SPEAKER_01 41:06

It shouldn't be anyway.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

And so it again, it doesn't mean we're not going to do those things. It I would be lying to you if I if I told you I'm I I don't I I don't cuss it up.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

Well, me too. I mean I every I think everybody from time to time, I mean, if I'm hammering a nail and I've hit my thumb, I'm probably gonna say something. But right I'm not going to go through life saying those things.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Trying to justify the fact trying to justify it and saying that this is what my heart feels. And so I I had a guy tell me one time, like, you just flippantly use the word crap during a sermon. I said, Yeah. I said, Would you like me to say the alternative?

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

And I'm like, Why are you so concerned that I said crap? Did you hear any of the other sermon? Right. You know, but in my mind, like that word, yeah, crap, the other word doesn't even come into my mind at all. No. At all. Right. Not even close.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

And I worked on a hog farm where the the owner was a Christian and a good man. Yes. And but it was just called hog. Yes. And I mean, that's what we called it. That's what it was. And he said, look, you don't need to say anything else. If you say that, I'm not going to get mad at you. And I just he was my youth leader too at the time. And I just couldn't bring myself to say it in front of him. So I would say, Well, that hog crap is uh all the, you know, and he and he'd laugh. And I was just like, I can't bring myself to say it.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

It's kind of in the same vein. I can't I can't call my high school teachers by their first name.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Yeah, and see, I try that, and I can't I can't.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Yeah, I can't do that either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

It's just anyway.

SPEAKER_00 42:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

I mean, I I guess I could. Well, I have. I used to coach Lies was he said, Well, call me Ken. You're out of high school now. And I was like, this feels weird. Yeah, so anyway, I just called him coach.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

But no, we we have to be careful as to what kind of uh because if we're making these arguments, I even even with drinking, okay. Uh I think we've made it very abundantly clear. We're not against drinking. Right. Um, if you want to have a drink of alcohol, go ahead. Yeah. Um, if you're getting drunk, you're we got problems.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

That's a problem.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Okay. Um because that's where the Bible draws the line. Right. Right. That's where the Bible draws line. So, but even as Christians who say, Well, I can drink, and then you're starting to get in a in a huff about it and and defensive about, you know, and we're arguing about it, and we're, you know, it's like, who does that glorify?

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Well, and that's the thing with most Christians arguing about almost anything that's not non that's not essential. When we argue over things, we're spending time arguing over something that's not encouraging one another to spread the gospel. And people are dying and going to hell. To disciple, that's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

Because we because we want to be right. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

And I and I honestly, guys, if you know me well, I I I'll I'll defend what I need to defend. Right. But if you're gonna be wrong and be obtuse about it, I'm just I I'm gonna I'm gonna sit there and smile at you and just let you go. Yeah. Because I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna put the energy into arguing a whole lot of stuff with people. Right. And um, not when I know that I can quote a couple verses and know that I'm right about it. But but people don't listen to that. either. And that's why I was really big into something I was reading yesterday about um the that the early Christians didn't spend time with people who weren't willing um to to come to Christ. And that's something that I've really always had trouble with because I'm always like, well I can talk people into you know knowing Jesus or I can, you know and but I think you if you're gonna do that, you have to know you have to ask right questions. You have to know what's in their heart. You have to ask the questions to get to their heart. And and Dan's good at this and I and I'm I think I'm better at it than I ever have been but there's sometimes you're gonna come across people who aren't ready for it and you've just got to be okay with that. You got to be okay because you're not gonna surmount you're not gonna mount that mountain. I mean you're not gonna do that. Right. And um and that's just something with fathers it's the same thing. There's some fathers we can reach there's some men we can reach when they're willing to listen or they're willing to be disciple but um when they're not when they're gonna throw up walls then all we can do is pray and encourage around and encourage and hope that they will drop a wall.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Right. So I'm oh go ahead. So that's the godly man. That's that's just in general as as as as as males that's it. Yeah that's that's what we want to be.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

Yeah that's excellent. And what I'll add to that is one really just one important passage. Um as a father one of the things that I took really seriously when I was young here in the here in my office there's a and I just glanced at it and Dan glanced over it. Have I ever told you about that painting the painting that hangs over my little refrigerator and my coffee maker is of an old sailor and he's sitting on the dock and there's three little girls and two of the little girls are blonde and one is redheaded and um they are two of the the one of the redheads and one of the blonde headed girls are standing on things kissing him on the cheek and the other little girl has both her hands in his hands and he's got this beautiful smile on his face and he's just enjoying being made over by these little girls. Well after my dad died um we got that painting um and uh it was before any of our my brothers and my kids were born and what's really cool about it is that the first daughter born to my brother was Leah and Leah now is in her 20s and graduated UNC Wilmington little blonde headed girl and um beautiful as she could be the next girl born was Libby Libby was redheaded when she was little okay and so she's the other girl kissing the cheek and then the third daughter was born to my brother he has two girls and that was Mary and Mary just graduated from high school and so that painting became very special to us because that sailor if you ever see a picture of my dad that is my dad that's awesome. I mean it is it is my dad to a T. And that's awesome my dad my I always I always wanted to be as good a dad to my kids as my dad was to me. And I I always feared that my sin would re would revisit itself in them. I think every man kind of fears that to a degree I think we all we're all afraid that the things and the mistakes we made may somehow come back and hurt our kids. It's not us that we're really even afraid of it hurting we don't want it to hurt our kids we don't want to hurt our wife our wives and and so um but that picture has always kind of centered me it hung in my shop at at but in Bellhaven and here I put it in my office and so um I can look at it from my desk. I've got a straight it's the only picture actually that I have a straight shot to look at uh from my desk and I did that on on purpose for simplicity. The passage I want to read to you is Deuteronomy 6 and we and we know this um Deuteronomy 6, 6 and 7 says And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise everything Dan just said about being the godly man is going to be observed by our children. Right. And if you go and say one thing and then you go and do another then your children aren't going to learn how to hide things necessarily they're not going to learn how to live properly they're gonna learn that the best path in life taught to them by their father is a path of hypocrisy. And I would rather a child be honestly doubtful or honestly agnostic than hide it. Right. You know the the lack of honesty that some parents and children that they don't trust each other scares me to death. I am thankful that both my kids I think would come to me with anything. Right. And that's been proven time and time again and I think they would come to me when they're struggling. Sometimes it's late at night and I want to go to bed but they they're struggling through something and I'll stay up and listen to them. And I'm sure there'll come a day when I miss that. But all my life and I we both have done this we've tried to live the same life in the home that we did outside. Right. Have we made mistakes I'm sure we have multiple times over and over again but the relationships that we have with our children are something that we understood that whether we were talking in our house or sitting or walking or lying down that that was who we are our Christianity our faith is the makeup and the foundation of who we are and as a as a dad I think dad you have more you have a responsibility to provide for your family that should not be shirt. You have a responsibility to love your wife you have a responsibility to do all the things that Dan said in there I and and I think the honest understanding is that you're not doing any of those things as Dan said for yourself. Right. You're doing those things for your for your children and for your wife and for others around you because we are called to be sacrificial in our life and that sacrifice is for people it starts with the concentric circle closest to us our family but it goes to friends and it goes to relatives it goes to neighborhoods it goes to other people when godly men live godly lives communities are changed. Right neighbors neighborhoods are changed areas are changed regions are changed godly men throughout history have done such incredible things that we shake our heads and go that that can't be me. I mean we think of Bonhoeffer we think of you know I mean any of these men who who just did these incredible we think of the men uh the movie The End of the Spear who went to Ecuador and were sharing the gospel and that they had a gun that day that they could have defended themselves and yet they'd rather die than than kill anyone who didn't have Christ. And so when um Elizabeth Elliott went back in and they asked why didn't your husband shoot me had a gun she said because he wanted you to know Jesus Christ the Savior and then it's not the men who did it but they set the pace. That's right. It was the women who came in after this pace was set and were able to spread the gospel. The the beauty of the gospel of Christ is that in the end God gave that ministry to us. We are plan A. There is no plan B we you the way you live your life and the words you speak to people are going to be the testimony that your children see and make decisions based on it. And even if your kid grows up and doesn't accept the faith the way you did and you can't force it on them. I know plenty of dads it on their kids you can't force it on them. They are going to they will grow up with a character set hopefully that they see in their fathers that they see in their parents they'll grow up with a character set that allows them to be good human beings until they do come back to that Proverbs 226 train up a child in the way he should go and even when he's old he will not depart from it. And those are the things that I think of when I'm when I think of being a dad I I don't I I didn't want to raise perfect kids. I wanted to raise kids who knew how to repent who knew how to confess who know how to ask for forgiveness and how to be honest. Yeah and um I think both of us have to know how to fail. Yeah absolutely you got to know how to fail. Right. I it's the thing we talk and I know Aaron probably won't ever listen to this but it's the thing we talk about with Aaron and Naomi probably needs to go through it too. We um I mean I know that Aaron needs to go to a church that's gonna I hate it but it's gonna chew him up and there are a lot of churches out there you don't have to look very far to find a church that's gonna chew him up and spit him out. And um and but hopefully I'll still be around and Dan will be here others will be here who can reach him Naomi the same way Naomi's going to probably work in a church somewhere that's going to hurt her at some point and she'll know that there are other churches out there though that will support her like Broad Creek. But you come to a Broad Creek and and it ruins you for the I think I'm afraid if I'd come to Broad Creek first, I would be sitting here in my office some days going, well there's got to be a better church than this not realizing that there probably isn't you know I mean if God calls me somewhere else then he calls me and that's I get that. And we're prepared for that we I am I'm ready to go whatever God says if God opens the door I'm ready to walk through it.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

But but I am not looking but but what I'm saying about we're prepared for that is like we've had such an amazing experience here and we've had not so amazing experiences other places um that having this now and and again I like and and I I miss Idaho a lot. I love those people but this this is entire this is an entirely different experience than what I've ever had there for that 12 and a half years I was at that church, which I dearly love. Yeah. This is this is beyond anything I've ever experienced. Yeah. Like now I know that if if God did call me somewhere else, which again we're not looking right um I I know that I'm not I'm not probably gonna I can't I can't look look at that and say okay this is going to be just like Broad Creek. Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:24

I'm prepared for it not to be I've thought about it a lot I don't know I've thought about it a lot that if God were to call me to another church and um tell me I had to go, what what would be the first things that I did? And I think the first thing that I would do is I would identify at least one man younger than 40 years old who I could disciple and I would pour everything that I had into him. That's right. And then I would tell him let's find two more men and I would spend the first three years building up a group of maybe 10 men who were so devoted to God and so devoted you know that they they changed their families, they changed their lives and if if it wasn't already there. But um I'm also at the point where if God did send me somewhere else that and I know this wasn't the topic for today but I think also as men we have to understand that God may move us. But um the I also understand that at 52 I might not see the fruit of all that. Right. You know I mean it might be that I just plant the seeds that someone else gets to come along. I may be Dave I may be King David gathering the materials and Solomon's gonna be the one to build the temple.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

Never building the temple but you're preparing it.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

That's right. And so that's something that we have to think of too guys and and maybe maybe that can be another spot of encouragement. Maybe you're listening today and you're going, you know what, I I am not a good Christian. Maybe you just happened on this podcast maybe it's 10 years from now maybe you're just sitting here going I'm not a good Christian. I've never been a good Christian my kids are 15 16 17 years old it is never too late nope if you have if you draw air in lungs it is never too late to start your relationship with Christ you need to hear the gospel and the gospel is that you have broken that relationship with God by your sin. All mankind does it we all we all we're all responsible for our sin. And yet the beauty of it is that even through that broken relationship God pays the penalty. God pays the price by sending Jesus and Jesus dies on the cross for your sin and he died on the cross for my sin and he died on the cross so that you and I could come to Jesus and say we accept you as our Savior we accept you as our Lord we want you to be everything to us. We surrender to him our lives we accept his sacrifice we are baptized into his great name and then we live Christian lives and as we live and we we're repenting of our sins constantly before this, after this, through this, we're constant live a life of repentance and confession it's never too late. My granddaddy was in his 70s when he truly did it. I I um a friend of mine just baptized a lady in his church who was I think she was 96 years old and just baptized her in his church and um I'm she just accepted Christ for the first time. That's awesome and um I love that oh dude that's amazing. You know you talk about the thief in the 11th hour you know I mean that's beautiful. And um but it's never too late for you guys. And um if you've been a bad dad to this point it's time to repent of that it's time to turn it over to God and um and be the dad become the dad ask God to make you the dad find men who will walk beside you find find a community that will help you in this men who aren't afraid to admit their faults and walk alongside you as as men should and um be sharpened. Right. So Dads we love you.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Do you have anything else Dan I don't need to I mean just a few dad jokes or don't be afraid to reach out either I mean um get a part get to be a part of like especially if you're at Broad Creek here.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

Yes um you know we we have uh some men's ministry restructuring happening right happening right now um we have axe church uh every first Monday um you know get a part of a group where you can be encouraged and you can be lifted up uh and and and held accountable and all that stuff um we need that we need to be able to um speak life into each other uh Scott mentioned it at the beginning of the the podcast he just said as iron sharpens iron that's a proverb you know um that we as iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another um we need to be that for each other um and not be afraid to um uh bring accountability and admit you're wrong um that's part of being a godly man is understanding and repenting of that yeah um but not not bringing judgment on each other either no uh admitting I got I got look I know you got issues I got issues too and these are the issues that I got those are the issues you have let's let's help each other right yeah so yeah that's that's all I wanted to add to that's excellent that's good stuff um guys be encouraged be men of God uh stand strong if you need us holler at us we do this podcast for Broad Creek Christian Church and but it's for anybody if you're in the neighborhood and don't come to Broad Creek reach out to us we we wouldn't mind helping you maybe you're in another church and maybe you're the maybe you're kind of one of the foundational pillars of that little church there helping out and you don't feel like you can leave that church but you also need discipleship talk to us message us email us send us the fan mail button on the top of the thing um tell us who you are and we'll send you a message we'll shoot you an email um and and we'll see what we can do maybe we can meet once a week and we can take you through our discipleship program that we have and help you grow in Christ so that you can take that back and there's things that are happening like that and getting ready to happen as we speak and it's really beautiful things but we want we want men to be men of God. You don't have to be at Broadcrete to be a man of God. We want men to be men of God right and uh we're willing to do what it takes to do that. So be encouraged guys you're not alone you never happy Father's day.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

Yeah happy father's day all right we got a dad joke for us oh we got a f we got a few of Lord we got a little bit time so we do what's ET short for short for did not expect that one uh I know what it's short for but uh what do you I don't know what is et short for he's got little legs oh Lord God help me help me how do you make a Swiss roll you push him down a mountain I knew it was gonna be that I should have said it I was like it can't be that one it is and then and then here's here's the one I told earlier Scott and I were just sitting here when my wife told me to stop impersonating a flamingo I had to put my foot down oh my gosh those are good though those are as good as the dad joke 3000.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

I mean they were I hate perforated lines oh my Lord they're terrible that reminds me of the uh uh the corduroy pillowcases have you heard of the corduroy pillowcases I have not they're making headlines how many apples grow on a tree oh lord I don't know how many all of them everybody has officially turned us off at this point um guys if you stuck around this long we we should get you a medal or something um you you deserve a high five oh me happy father's day guys and uh ladies thank you for being um an encourager thank you for thank you for helping um because men uh we we know what is the old thing behind every great man is a woman and she's usually shaking her head that's not the way I've heard it but yeah yeah we'll say that one um but uh but that's that's uh that we we need we need all the help we can do that one that's it's usually the behind every good man is a great woman but well yeah but but I like that one either one eyes I think and uh yeah because we're not who we are without our walls that's for sure so uh let us let us remain thankful and guys if you need us holler at us uh happy father's day and um we love you we really do Dan thanks so much buddy all right let's see if I can find my music instead of the Vu Vuzuela horn which I hit earlier when I was dang it I did it again terrible here we go by guys you have a great week