Episode 7: Happy Sweet Sixteen, Jerk

Breaking down Season 1 Episode 7 of Ginny & Georgia - Featuring melting a birthday cake with Imogen's face on it, the best and worst love/life advice, abandoning children on a paddle board and belonging in the Bayou. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:02

I'll be watching Ginny and Georgia with my mom. Her qualifications are she was a single mom to two mixed race kids. I'm Lazian and my sister's Blazian. And just like Georgia, she had me when she was super young. My qualifications are just like Ginny, I was a moody teen. So this is season one, episode seven. What was it called?

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Happy Sweet 16 jerk.

SPEAKER_03 0:31

Oh, that's actually a good title for this. And we see Georgia is making a cake, and Jenny says, My mom always goes big for birthdays. She said when she was young, Georgia dropped a stick bomb in the movie theater so they could watch it by themselves. I don't know. I was just kind of like, weren't they just sitting in a really bad-smelling theater then?

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Um before we carry on, I also we have to do some housekeeping as well. So I don't know if you want to start. Yes. Well, I actually have a a second laptop set up, which I think is important. And I did some more pointed research. So I thought I was wrong, but then I realized that I'm actually not wrong. Okay. So how much are AirPods are not six? Back when the show came out in 2021. Uh, yes, I guess Apple likes to do tiered products, right? So the AirPod Max in Canada in 2021 was$779. So that's when you get the case and everything like that. Obviously, you can get uh cheaper versions, just like you can get like Mac Mac uh Book Airs, which are cheaper than the actual Macs, right? Air. Yeah, yeah. Not Air, um, MacBook. So in the States, that would be I feel like we don't have to do this.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Like nobody's gonna care that we said that.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Okay, so just delete it.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Okay, so it's Jenny's birthday.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

So Georgia is making a cake, and Jenny says her mom always goes big for birthdays, and when she was young, Georgia dropped a stink bomb in the movie theater so they could watch it by the It was also a uh sing-along version of Moana, so it's that they could have the theater like all to themselves so they could sing as loud as they wanted, right? Um to your point, they would be sitting in a stinky uh theater. What I thought was really funny about this whole uh episode is that Ginny is so much the moody teen, um, and just so determined to see everything in a bad way about her mom. Cause I'm just sort of like, what's bad about going big for your birthday parties? And like this quality of being super resilient and you know, seeing the positive and the negative. Why is this a bad thing? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Yeah, I but she comes around this episode, right? Finally.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

At the end, yes, obviously, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:21

But yeah. Do you remember when you melted my birthday cake?

SPEAKER_00 3:26

That's very cruel of you to bring that up. I did not melt your birthday cake, okay? In my defense, I also feel like I went pretty big for birthday parties, did I not?

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Yeah. Once we had like a theater puppet show. Remember that like theater?

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Yeah, that's when you were like five years old. It's not just that uh we had a theater puppet show. I made the theater, I made it and hand painted it.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

Oh yeah. And then you put on little shows.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

I put on little shows. I also took that handmade theater and uh went traveled around the neighborhood to the local community centers, and that's how I got the experience to become a teacher. So I too was very resilient.

SPEAKER_05 4:12

You were a traveling playwright, not playwright, puppeteer. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Okay, which seems to sound less uh less stylish somehow.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

And then on my 16th birthday, you gave me the whole apartment to myself.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Yes, but back to that melted birthday cake. Toronto gets very cold in the winter, and Imogen's birthday is in January. So we had gone through a really frozen spell, and so I put her birthday, her ice cream birthday cake outside on the stoop overnight. But then wouldn't you know it? We had a warm spell where it went up to like one degree, which I guess in the states would be like 32 degrees, right? Um, and I I totally didn't think about it. And then we go and we drive to the swimming pool. I think it was swimming or bowling.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

It was bowling, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

It was bowling, and I we brought the cake, and all the kids had been bowling, we're having fun. We did the big reveal, and I had no inkling that anything had happened. It was a photo finished ice cream cake with Imogen's picture on it, and much worse.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

And when we opened the lid for the big reveal, it was like Imogen had aged 80 years because every her whole face was this gooey, this gooey, slimy, melted uh picture. It was so uh so devastating.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

And then when we got home, I was like, you ruined my birthday.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Thanks, Ma, for ruining my birthday.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

But all I remember is you got so mad.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

I was like, I should not have said that.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

That was funny because it was uncharacteristic of you. I guess you must have been a little bit older, maybe eight. Grade two, grade three. You were just trying out your sassy side. That's what that was. I'm eight now. I'm gonna have some attitude.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

My inner genny. Okay, so and we see uh Ginny has straightened her hair, and Georgia's like, I liked your natural hair.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

And then she Ginny goes, Well then you wear it. Totally, totally sassy attitude for no reason. I feel like I'm living with Ginny right now.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

Oh my gosh. And then we see Georgia singing happy birthday, and Ginny like reluctantly blows the candles out. Just one candle, okay. Yeah. And we see Zion's parents sent her$500, which Georgia already opened.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Because there's like$500 in there, so I guess she might have taken some of the money out.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

Oh, I didn't even think of that. Oh my god. And then Austin comes in and gives her a card, and this is where we find out she's turning 16. But Ginny's like still mad about Georgia hiding her like secret family and stuff like that. And then Georgia pushes the cake she made into Ginny's face.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Happy birthday jerk. Which we're all like secretly happy she does. Yeah. Ginny's big refrain throughout this whole episode is now that I'm 16, maybe you'll start treating me like an adult. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

She's so annoying.

SPEAKER_06 7:40

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

And then we cut to Ginny's room, and Zion gave her a piano or a keyboard for her birthday. And then we find out Max is planning a party at her place for Ginny's birthday.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

I also just thought it was so funny because this whole uh uh d dichotomy, if you will, are uh squaring off against each other, where nothing the mother can do will please the daughter. But she you can see uh Ginny playing the keyboard, and she's just like so in love with this keyboard. Can you believe dad sent me a keyboard? So everything, everything dad does is amazing, everything mom does, which is just birth you, take care of you, sacrifice everything for you, nothing is okay.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Yeah, that's like Bibi was like, I forget why we were talking about that. That like if you died.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Oh, it's your favorite c your favorite conversation, you two.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Like where we would live. And she was like, Oh, but do you think like Tyson and Carolyn could adopt me so I could live in their big house?

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Yeah, she didn't.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

And I was like, okay, yeah, go live with them. Let's see how that works out for you.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Yes. It would be uh similar to her joining the military.

SPEAKER_03 9:07

Okay, let's keep going. Let's keep going.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Okay, so Well, you said that Max is is um organizing a surprise birthday, but I feel like Georgia keeps trying to get Ginny excited about their birthday. She has to spend George Ginny has to spend the day with Georgia. And I'm gonna say, quote unquote, has to, right? And um Georgia's trying to get her really excited.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

But do they even spend the day together?

SPEAKER_00 9:40

No, but Ginny doesn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Right, so this is still the morning of like let's say it's a Saturday morning, right? Because they don't have school. Or they do have school, so like it's a Friday. It's a Friday.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Yeah, so uh we cut to the hall, and Ginny, Max, and Marcus are walking down the hall at school, and we find out Brody ate Marcus's fish one time at a party, so he really doesn't want the party to happen.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

Okay, I think you forgot something though. So still back in the kitchen, Ginny gets a text from Mac from Max, and she sees that Max's parents are gonna be away. So Max is gonna be having a party on Saturday night. And Ginny has to spend the day with Georgia and then attend a secret party at Max's in the evening.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

Yes, and Marcus is not happy about this. And then Sophie comes up to them and her and Max kiss. And Max covers Ginny's eyes, and she reveals many decorated trees in the hall that they hang out by. They hang out by some tree with a bean band.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Yeah, the birthday tree. Did did you not have a like a uh tradition of decorating each other's lockers in high school?

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Yes, okay. So in high school, my friend like I so I come and I decorated my like locker is all decorated, and then every class I went to, the teacher had a secret gift for me, and the gift I think it had a clue or something, and it would lead me to the next teacher, and I got like a present every class.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

So Oh my gosh, that's so over the top. And then that sets the bar, and then did you feel like you had to do something even bigger than that for your friend?

SPEAKER_03 11:25

Yeah, yeah. I f yeah, and once I decorated this giant box for them, like giant, like bigger than my body, and I put like everything that had to do with like our life together on the box, and like inside and out, this giant box. And then they were just like, My mom's not gonna let me keep this. But yeah, like what are you supposed to do with that? Looking back. I also used to decorate chairs, so for my other friend, I like covered a chair completely in pictures of different not different just pictures, but like cut out little like things I had saved from her life, and then I dropped it off at their house. And I feel like their sister was like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Imogen always makes very uh meaningful birthday presents. Um where are we? Yeah, so she comes up to the birthday tree, and um everyone is freak like so happy birthday, happy birthday. Except for one person.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Who?

SPEAKER_00 12:35

Abby.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

Oh yeah, why why was she like this, this episode?

SPEAKER_00 12:42

A lot is going on for her.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

But is that it? Like something's going on for everybody.

unknown 12:48

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

I think that is trying to just highlight that things are going on for her. So she's I don't I can't remember exactly what she says, but it's like to the to the point of like, oh my god, can everyone just get over it already? And she actually storms off, and Nora and Max like give each roll their eyes at each other, like, oh my god, what is her problem?

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Yeah, I have that that she's giving Sass.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

And then, oh gosh, it's building up to the next uh birthday tribute.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

Yeah, so I wrote down, I couldn't remember her name, so I just wrote down the adopted one. Nora. Her boyfriend comes up. Yeah, okay, Nora.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

She's the N. What?

SPEAKER_03 13:26

I can say that because you're adopted.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

She's the man, the N and Mang.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

Oh, yeah, right. Okay. So she comes up and she says, I'm supposed to tell you to look in that general direction. And she points down the hall, and we see Hunter wearing tap shoes. And he begins to dance down the hall while Happy Birthday is playing in like a jazz vibe in the background.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

So as soon as I saw as soon as I saw this, I was like, oh my gosh, Imogen's gonna have thoughts on this. So it's not just Hunter, there's basically like a flash mob, right? A dance flash mob where there's like five of them and they have a little tap routine down the hall.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

I thought at this point that the episode was gonna turn into like a musical episode. Yeah, yeah. Because like that, I saw that happen on Riverdale once, so I was scared. I was like, I can't sit through this. Unless like the music is actually good, but I just can't.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

And then it's funny, they cut to Marcus, he's like sitting on the hallway floor. Yeah, he pretends he's like kind of fake barfing, but by pretending to poke his eye out, like ew gross.

unknown 14:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

And then we cut to the mayoral mayoral debate with Cynthia and Paul. And we see the whole time Georgia is kind of mouthing the words to Paul's answers. And we find out Cynthia wants to allocate a$360 million budget entirely to the school.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

I know. My eyeballs also popped out because I thought it was just three million. Remember in last episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was looking at like you know, the budget and making invoices, and she just saw three million. But here it's been uh pumped up to 360. I was surprised.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

But what kind of like is Cynthia stupid?

SPEAKER_00 15:26

I guess that's her platform. She is the uh the PTA, the parent uh counsel person.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

I don't know. I just like is she a functioning adult with like brain cells? Why would you think that's a good platform? The entire budget on the school? That's just that's really dumb.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

She's obviously very inexperienced.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

And Paul says 50% will go to the schools and everything else will go to like making uh Wellsbury a better place. Okay, so Max says on Saturday she's gonna lose her virginity to Sophie. Or Sophie, yeah, Sophie, not Sophia. And Max seems like a little bit intimidated that Sophie has slept with two people. And Ginny was like, she's ready to sleep with Hunter. And I was like, Missy, you've literally already slept with Marcus, barely even knowing him.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

I know, but uh Ginny is being very cagey. So Max actually just says she wants to have sex with Sophie, right? And I think it's so funny for this in this whole sort of uh storyline, she's so she talks like a 25-year-old, right? So we have to remember they're 15 and 16-year-olds, unless I haven't been around 15 and 16, fix 16-year-olds in a while, but she's uh Well, BB's almost 15. And I don't think she talks like this, but I would really be surprised. And so she's like, Yeah, I'm gonna swipe my V card, let's do it on the same night. And um then she makes fun of Ginny, right? Did you write that down? Where Max is like, No. Virginity is an antiquated construct meant to keep women down.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

No, I think.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

And so then her and Nora laugh at her Ginny impression. So everything you and I have said about her, like uh um Ginny's Her little Rand. Her little random have clocked that too.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

So Okay, and Max also says this is so blockered.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Did you check Did you know this movie? I did actually go and look it up. But don't you like John Cena? I do like John Cena. I guess he plays one of the dead.

SPEAKER_03 17:53

I'm really surprised that you haven't seen Blocker.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Have you?

SPEAKER_03 17:58

I've seen it like three times. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

Really? That's hilarious. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_05 18:05

I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

So should I watch it?

SPEAKER_03 18:10

Yeah, okay, watch it. It's just like a lighthearted comedy.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

About losing one's virginity.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

But it's like the kids, uh, they kind of do a parody of it in this episode because the kids are planning to all lose their virginity on the same night, and then the parents read their messages on their laptop and they try to go stop them. Okay. So it's like cock blockers. Okay. I just like it's not I don't think it's like a great movie. It's just because you like John Cena. What else I what else would you have seen John Cena in to know you like him?

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Quite a few movies, actually. Um I'm gonna just now that I have the computer here, I'm gonna just look at his movie titles.

SPEAKER_03 18:58

I I've I can't think of another movie. What is he known for? Wasn't he like a wrestler or something?

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Yeah, he was. But not, he was a WWE wrestler. Okay. Oh gosh, my favorite my there's a movie on Amazon called Ricky Stinicki, and I just watched it like at 11 p.m. on a Friday when I had nothing else to watch, and I laughed so hard. He's just so ridiculous. I've never heard of Ricky. Ricky Stanicki. It's a ridiculous movie.

SPEAKER_03 19:38

What's it about?

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Um he is an act. So these three dudes, um, and one of them is the guy from oh gosh, what's his name? From uh high school musical. Zach Afron. Zach Efron's in it. So these two best friends uh tell their parents, their parents, their wives, that they're going to visit this uh dying friend, right? And apparently they've used this dying friend, this friend that lives far away, as an excuse to go on all these guide trips, right? They go gambling, they do all this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

And um then the the wives are like there's a third friend getting married, and they're like, Oh, you you're such good friends with this guy. You should really invite him to the wedding. And um so it in order to not blow their cover, they have to produce this this so that he's dying. No, this so-called friend that they've been visiting all this time. And so they hire this actor, which is John Cena. He's a down and out actor.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Wait, who's the second guy though?

SPEAKER_00 20:48

Zach Gaffron and some I don't know the other guys, he's not uh Hollywood actor.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

I've never heard of this movie.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

They hire John Cena to be the friend, and he comes to the wedding and he has to like BS his way through everything, but it's just ridiculous. And he's like an alcoholic to boot.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Um wait, that sounds really good.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

It's very funny. Like, I want to watch that. Ricky Stanicki, and that's the name they come up with. Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

Okay. I actually trust anything Zach Efron is in. What?

SPEAKER_05 21:26

I don't know. I trust his judgment.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

Okay. So what were we talking about?

SPEAKER_00 21:40

They have Max is just hatching this plan to lose her V card with Ginny on Saturday night. And then Abby comes by. They're sitting in the cafeteria, remember, and they give her the cold shoulder.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

But then they like Jenny kind of breaks the ice. Yeah. And she's like, oh my god, is that her? Is she gonna come over here?

SPEAKER_00 22:06

And then we see that Abby is the she's the uh odd person out. Because Nora has Jordan, Ginny has Hunter, and Brody's sort of goofing around with Max, and so Abby's the uh the lone one out. I feel like one of the episodes is gonna be all about Abby. She's gonna do something really extreme. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

And some random dude comes up to Max and he's like, Beirut, what does Beirut mean?

SPEAKER_00 22:36

It's a drinking game.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

Oh, I thought it was like a place in the world, and like their party is their party is gonna be themed like that country.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

No, Beirut is a drinking game. Oh. It's Brody that comes and is like, Beirut, baby. Like, do that. Did you know about Beirut before this? No, remember I watched the episodes twice. So the second time I was like, I got it.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

Okay. And is that Brody?

SPEAKER_00 23:04

That's Brody.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

Okay, I thought Brody was that dark-haired dude.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

The reason why I know this Brody Brody is that it says Amazon it tells you all the lists of the actors.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

You're watching on Amazon?

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Uh, maybe it's Netflix, right? Okay, so maybe I did a cast search. Okay. Because I didn't know his name.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Yes. So then we see everyone has a partner except for Abby. Cut to Paul kicking the soccer soccer ball with Austin, and they're talking about Austin going back to school, and Austin is nervous, and Paul makes him feel better. He's like, you can't control how other people act, but you could control how you feel, or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Austin goes, everyone thinks I'm weird. And then Paul goes, You think that's weird? How is this for weird? And he starts acting like an ape, and I don't know. I'm like, this is the mayor. And he's on the front yard on what's his name of the street? Bradbury Street, whatever. Bradley Street.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Bradley.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I don't know. So I have thoughts actually on Paul. He's he's just a good Paul. What are you doing? Because I feel in the last couple episodes, I keep on setting it up that Joe's gonna be the good guy and Paul's gonna somehow not be a good guy.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

But I feel like this episode, he really redeem is not the right word because he hasn't done anything wrong, but he's kind of proven himself to be a good guy. I'm like, maybe he isn't all just talk.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

Oh, so he's winning you over through his consistency.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Well, no, I'm thinking maybe the storyline is not gonna go off on such an obvious dichotomy with Paul being the bad guy or a fake guy and Joe being the good guy, right? Coming through. Because in this episode, Paul really comes through for J for Georgia.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Um, and his advice, it got me thinking, what's the best advice you ever got?

SPEAKER_00 25:14

I'm gonna tell you, I I got really terrible advice growing up. Like what? Um, I guess in a I I know that you're not gonna be happy with this uh explanation because you're like it's just too in-depth. I really had advice from my therapist that was more like as an empowered feminist, I could basically do what I wanted.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Which is just not true.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Why? I kind of like that.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

It's it's just not true. Okay. How about you?

SPEAKER_03 26:00

I don't know. I I know I asked this question, but I didn't prepare an answer. Uh there's one that girl that played uh I think her name's Jemima Kirk. She played on Girls uh Jessa. I think she said like you're thinking about yourself too much.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Too okay. And that's the advice that you try to remember.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

Yeah, like you're probably just you're probably just thinking, like if I ever get if I remember like, oh my god, I'm all like we're all gonna die, we're all like on this little earth. I'm like, okay, you're probably just like thinking about yourself too much.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

All the advice I've given you over the years, and you remember some basic line from girls?

SPEAKER_03 26:46

It's not from girls. She just said it. What what advice have you given me?

SPEAKER_00 26:50

To make money, to get a job, to get your finances in order?

SPEAKER_04 26:55

Okay, yes, yes, just you gave me the worst advice.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Okay, I was like 24. Mind you, I didn't I was living with my grandma, I didn't really have bills to pay. I had zero bills, and my at my work, they told me I could do whatever I wanted if I wanted to go part-time, or like what, or but then I talked to you. First of all, I talked to grandma, and grandma was like, Yes, you should obviously go part-time and then do your music. Do have time to actually do what you want, because you're young once. And then I talked to you, and you were like, Money's important, you should work. So I was like, I take take your advice very seriously, and I just worked full time, and I got super burnt out, and I didn't have time to do anything I wanted, and I ended up spending all my money anyway.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

Alright. I think there's a lot of things going on here. I think the advice of making money is not bad. Obviously, finding a balance in your work, art, life, b life is important.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

I'm just saying I was never gonna be 24 again. If there was a time to like have like work part-time, that would have been it.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

For those of you who can't see, I'm just uh speechless. Okay. I mean, this that the 20s, I think the 20s are a lost decade. There's so much pressure on people in their 20s, too. Whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

Well, I feel like in your 20s you're recovering from your childhood, and now in my 30s, I feel like I'm recovering from my 20s.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

I think we're all always in a state of recovery, one could say, but one should always be making money. Oh my god. Maybe we should not be having this publicly.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Nas and now you are.

SPEAKER_05 28:42

Oh my god. I've been making money all of my 20s.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Like and squirreling that money away, obviously, starting your investing young. This is stuff I did not know when I was younger. So that was my advice. Yeah, and now every night when I just agree with it.

SPEAKER_05 28:57

When I go to sleep, every night I'm like, what my retirement's coming up. I gotta, oh my god, what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 29:04

But just because you feel anxious about it doesn't mean it's not good advice. So you we all know that you have like major anxiety issues, so you should try to manage your anxiety better. But it doesn't mean that saving money and having a steady source of income is not good advice.

SPEAKER_04 29:21

I already do both those things, so why are we in the middle of a little lecture here?

SPEAKER_00 29:26

We're not. Okay, back to the show. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Um, where are we?

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Well, anyways, Paul advises um Austin to apologize to Zach. And he gives some very sage advice, which is we can only control how we act. Would it feel better?

SPEAKER_03 29:52

But we both know Georgia would not be okay with him apologizing.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Yeah. So I guess that's good. The yin and the ang of it. And oh yeah, we go to the blue farm now, and Georgia and Ellen are at the bar, and stuff is kind of awkward after they interact with Joe after their little moment in the bedroom last week. And Max shows up. Max just kind of shows up out of nowhere and she asks if Georgia has ever been in love. And her mom, Ellen, is kind of like, I've been in love because they was dad for like 19 years or something. And Max is just like completely disregarding her.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

That was hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

And she's like, Georgia, like, have you ever been in love? And Georgia says it's about the spot right here. And when this spot smells like love to you smells like home. Oh, I put smells like love, it smells like home. Oh, yeah, it smells like home to you. That's how you know it's love. I wrote down what the F does this mean?

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Yeah, I didn't get it either.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

Like the little temple, or just like when their body smells like home to you.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

I isn't it their mind?

SPEAKER_05 31:06

Oh, I thought they meant literally the temple.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

I think she means what me what is there between the ears, which is their mind.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

I think smell would make more sense. Like if somebody smells like home.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

As Ellen very wisely interjected, is I don't know why we're analyzing Georgia's love advice too deeply, given her track record, right? But I am I don't know. I guess when who they are feels homey and familiar to you, like home, that's when you know that you're in love.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Um, so when was the first time you were in love?

SPEAKER_00 31:53

I don't know why you're directing these questions at me. I mean, I don't know what in love means. That's just hormones.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

I so the one piece here's some advice. Not advice, but some and pithy, pissy, pithy phrase, which is um, I believe from Steve and Covey. Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, a great book, a classic book. Um, he says, and I don't know if it's him who says it, but love is not a feeling, it's an action. I think that when we're young, we're very much about the feeling of it. I feel so in love, I'm falling, right? All of this. Love is actually an action and takes a lot of work.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

I remember, like, with my ex when I was 18, we couldn't walk down the block because we had to kiss every two seconds.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

And so you think that this is love. I think that that we couldn't walk down the street because we had to kiss every two seconds. And did you feel like that was love? Okay, and I feel like I'll never feel that again. So you know that that's just hormones, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:07

Yeah, it's like, well, it's like I don't know, I feel like that's your first love. That's like not really love.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Hello?

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Yeah, it's hormones. Okay. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

So they talk about the party, and Ellen says she asked Georgia to make it a sleepover because she's gonna be in Maine. So Max isn't alone.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Although And then Max's eyes opened, like, oh yeah. It's funny because Georgia's so excited, and she's like, we're gonna have karaoke, petties, cake, movies, and now a sleepover, right? And this reminds me of uh Ginny and Georgia's uh Halloween tradition of we're staying in, we're watching horror movies, having popcorn, and Max is just it's she's way above them in her league, is just like, you know, so Georgia's still so innocent.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

And also, did you hear Ellen say, uh, but Marcus likes to be alone. I love him. Okay, so yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

No, let's carry on.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

Okay, cut to invoices at the mayor's office where Georgia is making a check out for$10,000 to cash for the mayor's office, like checkbook.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

She finally cracked. What was your take on that?

SPEAKER_03 34:39

Well, for me, this didn't seem like the first time she's done this. It just seems like something she's been doing that they haven't shown us.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Yeah, for the past uh episode, was it just last episode, episode six, where we're like, ooh, is that when Nick teaches her how to write invoices or like write checks?

SPEAKER_03 34:58

I think it was like two episodes ago.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Because we were like, oh my gosh, she's gonna start dipping in, but they never actually showed her. I think this kind of confirms that she is dipping in. It's like, oh dear. But of course, that makes sense. How is she paying for her big house?

SPEAKER_03 35:16

And Georgia calls Marty, he's from the Blood Eyes, and she says there's a P.I. looking around, and she needs him to do her a favor to do what he did in New Orleans. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

No, what? What what were you gonna tell me?

SPEAKER_03 35:33

I was just I was just gonna tell you like how I think I belong in New Orleans. Have you been to New Orleans? Wouldn't you know if I went there?

SPEAKER_00 35:43

You haven't. So how do you feel like you can you belong there?

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Because I think I belong in the bayou in the swamp. Like anytime I see pictures or movies, there's something about that that I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

You know, there's like major like bugs and creatures.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

I I think I'd uh acclimatize.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

You're the person when you get stung by or bitten by a mosquito, you get gigantic welts on your body.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

But they have bug spray and stuff. I don't know. Actually, I didn't really think about that part.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

And the the the crocodiles and yeah, yeah, that's the part I like. Okay. This is similar to you living on a farm. Now it we can add bayou to the list. Okay, so Georgia asks, sorry, Georgia asks, when was the last time you and the boys drove down to Houston? So we don't know. I I put major question marks beside that line.

SPEAKER_03 36:45

Yeah. And then we cut to breakfast for dinner at home. And like, if Georgia goes all out, like why are they just having some eggs and bacon for dinner?

SPEAKER_00 36:56

What do you mean if Georgia goes all out? I don't think she knows how to cook.

SPEAKER_03 37:01

Uh, true.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

I think she just knows how to do breakfast. That's all we've seen her do. And now they're having breakfast for dinner.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

I didn't think about that. Okay. And Georgia asked if anyone did anything at school for Jenny's birthday, and Jenny's like, no. This kind of reminds me of you and BB, I feel.

SPEAKER_05 37:22

Like a bunch of. Yeah, I f I a bunch of stuff is high to her in the day, and she's like, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

I definitely identified with this mealtime uh atmosphere.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

I'm like, ah. And we know that J Georgia knows that Jenny's lying. Because Max told her at the blue farm. So Georgia takes a bite of waffle and Austin starts yelling and is like, Mom, you know I hate it when you chew loudly, and he leaves. I relate to this.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

Aww, tell me how.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

No, one of my big regrets after Omi died was that I got mad at her once for chewing pistachios too loudly.

SPEAKER_05 38:04

Aw. I think about it all the time. I'm like, I was so mean.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Why? What did you say to her?

SPEAKER_03 38:11

I think I started screaming because I don't know. That was really getting on my nerves.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Like as a teenager or 20-year-old?

SPEAKER_03 38:19

Like when I was like 15. Yeah. Old enough to know better.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

I'm sure she forgave you. I'm sure she had to deal with me. I'm sure you were just a walk in the park compared to me. I begin to understand my mother a lot more as I get older. I now understand why she works so much.

SPEAKER_05 38:47

To get away from you.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

I kid you not. I mean, aside from the fact that she was a compulsive like workaholic, but this whole idea of avoiding the domestic scene because it was just like too complicated for her to to figure out. Yeah, avoidance is a great strategy for that.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

She said she used to like drive home as the sun was coming up.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Rarely. I don't think it was that bad. When I said when I said workaholic, she might like come back home at 11, not 5 a.m.

SPEAKER_05 39:24

She really didn't want anything to do with it.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

That's a story. That's a tall, a tall tale.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

No, I swear she told me that, but okay. Um, yeah, so Austin gets mad and leaves. And Georgia gets mad and is like, wait, Jenny gets mad and is like, why can't you have a single real conversation for my birthday? And I want you to treat me like an adult, and she storms away.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Oh, poor Georgia. And she all she wanted to do was have a nice family dinner.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

Yeah. It's it I kind of it's kind of weird she hasn't learned how to cook, though.

unknown 40:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

What? I think that's probably very common.

SPEAKER_03 40:11

Really? But if you don't have money, don't you kind of like learn to adapt?

SPEAKER_00 40:16

You should. You should. I'm thinking that we have to start eating beans for the next month.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

But no.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Well, PB told me she just got some tickets to a K-pop concert I'm apparently attending.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Yeah, I really I have to put my foot down. I don't I don't understand how people do not understand that you cannot spend more than you bring in. Right? That's just the basic budgeting 101. The gravy train is over.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

I guess. But then people are also like YOLO. You ever heard of YOLO?

SPEAKER_00 40:55

I don't believe in YOLO.

SPEAKER_05 40:59

I like how your arms are crossed. You're like, I don't believe in YOLO. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

So George is doing the dishes.

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Yeah, and Paul shows up and he's like, we got dessert, or I got dessert. And George is like, when did I stop being cool?

SPEAKER_00 41:21

Yeah. And she goes, Am I a terrible mother if I'm jealous that she's leaving me?

SPEAKER_03 41:26

But like, is that why she's mad? She's not even mad about that. Like, that hasn't been addressed this whole episode.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

I think she's upset because she heard from Max. Remember the dynamic between moms and daughters? Like at the blue farm, Max had no time of day for her own mother and was talking all to Georgia. And I think it was from Max that she just told her, Oh yeah, Hunter did this whole tap dance, right? So I think Georgia is sad that Ginny didn't tell her about all her birthday celebrations at school. Right? Isn't that like why am I not cool? When did I stop being cool?

SPEAKER_03 42:06

Yeah. But isn't that Is there something Georgia's doing wrong? I g I think actually she does, because at the end of the episode, when she opens up, you know, everything gets a little better.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

There's nothing that Georgia's doing wrong. It's that Ginny's still mad that uh Georgia kept all her like childhood secrets from her. And I guess Geor Ginny perceives that she's still keeping her childhood secrets from her. Um, but I think this is like normal mother teen daughter crap going on.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

Well, I remember once uh in grade seven or eight, it was like our first time, me and my friends trying to get high. And I was like, I called you and I was like, Mama, like, yeah, we're just gonna like try and get high. You were like, you're supposed to lie to me.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

Imogen, you were a very uh, I gotta say, easy to manage, easy to get along with teenager. I think you took all your your struggles and you internalize them, upsetting others out like getting the the possibility of getting like reprimanded was just so anathema to you. You could not handle that idea. So you turned all of that inward. That's my perception.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

Remember when I lost Richard's hat?

SPEAKER_00 43:32

Kind of. What happened?

SPEAKER_03 43:34

Like I was I had read cat sitting for him, but I I don't know what happened to this hat, but it was like apparently one of his favorite hats.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

Oh, like the the what do you call those? The pork pie hats?

SPEAKER_03 43:46

Yeah, I and I couldn't I literally to this day don't know what happened to this hat, but I genuinely thought I was gonna kill myself.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

I was like I thought what happened is that there was also a screen got broken.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

Yeah, but he didn't really care about the screen.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

It was the hat that upset him? But I was Or the fact that you didn't tell him.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

I honestly did you tell him? I I think he just didn't know where it was, but I don't even have memory. To this day, I don't even know if I did lose this hat. I guess I did, but I don't have any memory of ever having this hat. But I genuinely was like, this is it for me. Like I can't take this guilt.

SPEAKER_05 44:24

I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 44:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Oh. Imogen is a very good person. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Okay. Um what happened? Where are we?

SPEAKER_00 44:40

So Ginny, now we're going to Ginny's bedroom, and Ginny's playing the keyboard.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

Yes. And Marcus's gonna be around the case. And then Marcus climbs through the window.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Imagine Zach Ephron climbing through your window.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Does he climb through the window too?

SPEAKER_03 44:58

He climbs through Gabriella's window, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:03

Um, yeah, so Marcus climbs through the window and he's like, I got you a gift.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

And it seems like Well first he plays a jazz riff. You play piano too?

SPEAKER_03 45:12

Like everyone plays a little piano. Like, let's let's be real. Um and he painted her a picture, which seems very incomplete.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

He did a watercolor sketch of her.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

But it looks half done, no?

SPEAKER_00 45:30

But that's what watercolors are.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Oh my god, Omi, she used to have this thing where you paint by removing the paint. So you put all the watercolor on the page, and then you dip it in water, and you see where all the colors go, and then you see where like spaces are being formed with no paint, and then you remove the paint to create images within the color.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

Yeah, she became a quite an accomplished watercolor painter. Yeah. Yeah, so they obviously this Marcus's painting is not uh this. It's not an accomplished watercolor painting.

SPEAKER_03 46:11

I just thought it looked like half done. And then they almost kiss, and she's like, I have a boyfriend, and you have a Padma, and he's like, I don't care about Padma, and Hunter has a ponytail instead of a personality.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

I was like, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 46:26

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

And she says, We're gonna have sex.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Yeah. And Marcus is like, what does he say? He's like, what? And then he's like, happy birthday, and he leaves. At this point, I was kind of thinking about burglars, and like people are just coming and going through the windows. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

I guess you're becoming a 30-year-old. Imogen.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

I don't know. I feel like I've always been like that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

The next scene is funny.

SPEAKER_03 47:09

Um what happened? Next morning, Ginny is oh yeah. Oh my god, I had some thoughts about this. Okay. So Ginny is banging at the washroom door and saying, like, Austin, get out, I have to pee. And then we see it's the mayor Paul who comes out wearing like a little tiny towel. He comes out of the shower, and then like we see at the breakfast table Paul made French toast. And I was just like, shouldn't have Georgia at least like said that he's staying over?

SPEAKER_00 47:44

I don't okay. I don't think it's that he stayed over that is the issue. My sense is that he has stayed over several times. It's the fact that he came out of the wash and with just a towel wrapped around his waist.

unknown 47:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

And that he's naked from the waist up and has a very fine torso, might I say. Um, I found this funny because it is it's a real thing. So we currently, I don't have a live-in boyfriend, but I do have a partner that stays over. And I've I've I've actually told him you have to wear a t-shirt when you're walking around. And even when he comes to avoid exactly such a situation. I was like, when you come out of the washroom after a shower, make sure you're fully dressed. I feel like this is very awkward for the child.

SPEAKER_03 48:38

Yeah, it's weird.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

And Ginny is still a child, even though she's 16.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Even though she wants to be treated like an adult. You can't handle the truth. And then we see Ginny talking about so she is at the table with Paul and everybody, and she starts talking about all her mom's exes in front of Paul. But I feel like he takes it really well.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

There's Omed. Omed throws grapes and catches in his mouth. Omed, that's hilarious. There's Lewis, the fry cook, and there's Tucker, and both Austin and Ginny are like, ooh, Tucker.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

Yeah. Um yeah, but Paul takes it well. It kind of just like, he's kind of like, I mean, I don't know. He's good with teens and kids.

SPEAKER_00 49:31

That's what I mean. This episode, he really like proves himself.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

Because Ginny is definitely being a bitch.

SPEAKER_05 49:41

Mama's turned against Ginny, finally.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

Well, that's pretty bad. That's pretty bad.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Um, and the doorbell rings and it's Mang, and they all yell, surprise! And we see they've decorated the whole living room with sleepover stuff, like karaoke and makeup, and don't forget the bedazzler. Oh yeah. I didn't write that down.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

I have no idea what a bedazzler is, but Georgia's very excited about it.

SPEAKER_03 50:09

You don't I thought you lived through the 80s. Isn't that when like people bedazzled stuff, or was that the 90s?

SPEAKER_00 50:14

It's where you put like rhinestones on your jack, your clothing and stuff. You can make your own clothes with a bedazzler.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

A bedazzler for my hair? It was supposed to like put on.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

Oh, crimp it? Crimp it?

SPEAKER_03 50:28

No, no, no, no, no. It was supposed to put little rhinestones on your hair everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

Why do you need a machine for that?

SPEAKER_03 50:35

It like makes sure they stay on. It's not.

SPEAKER_00 50:37

It glues it to your hair?

SPEAKER_03 50:39

Kind of, yeah. I think it like takes the other part of the hair and it like squishes it. I don't know. It didn't work. I was scammed.

unknown 50:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:48

So we see um the doorbell rings, and it's all these women who are gonna give them pedicures. And Ginny is not having a good time. And she's like, Georgia doesn't actually care about what I want. She only cares about what she wants, so I don't care what she wants. Georgia has two guns in the house.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

And Nora's so shocked and troubled by this.

SPEAKER_03 51:10

Yeah. Um, and then Max says she got a Brazilian wax down there. And Nora said her and her mom get them before they go on vacation. Like in the same room.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Does that matter?

SPEAKER_03 51:29

Well, it was kind of weird. I don't know. I pictured it like, you know how people get massages together? I just pictured them both getting the waxes together, like holding their hands to like get through the pain.

SPEAKER_00 51:39

I think this whole relationship between Nora and her adoptive parents is one that's being portrayed as this like super progressive, woke relationship between child and parent. They call each Nora calls them by their first names. Like she's basically treated like a little adult, right? Um I guess I don't know what that is all about. It seems to come with uh with privilege. Um, I'm not gonna go on about that. Max says, just Max, just to bring uh to wrap up this whole thing about waxing, she goes, I'm a naked mole rat down there. Again, I think like 25-year-olds, like women, women in their 20s would talk this way. I I don't even talk this way.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

Yeah. Do I? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Not with me, but do you do do you with your friends? Oh but oh no, this is the other part we forgot. She goes, uh, who was the her waxer, her esthetician Hilda? Was it? Hilda, then Hilda asks, Do you want your butthole waxed? And Max goes, Do I need my butthole waxed? And then Hilda looks and says, Yes, you need it. Right? And I'm just like, this is conversation that women in their 20s and 30s should have.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

Yeah. I actually just started watching Sex in the City again.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

It would be appropriate for them to have these kinds of conversations, right? But so it's I think what it is is that Ginny and Georgia deals with girls that are 15 and 16, but the viewership must be people in their 20s.

SPEAKER_04 53:24

Yeah. Well, BB does say people her age watch it, but which I would be like, nah-uh.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

Nah uh.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

Well, I did start watching the first episode with Bebe, but she wasn't into it. I told Bibi she should watch Pretty Little Liars.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Is that more appropriate?

SPEAKER_03 53:44

Yeah, and it has to do with like murder and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

Mm-hmm. Oh, murder's so much better than murder is so much better.

SPEAKER_03 53:53

It was based on books written for like 12-year-olds, so.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

Okay. Well, then it must be okay.

SPEAKER_03 54:00

I told her to watch The Pilot. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

Although The Good Girl's Guide to Murder, which is also considered YA, I read it. I'm like, I was shocked.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

No, I watched that series. That was way more graphic than Pretty Little Liars.

SPEAKER_00 54:11

Like way more. We can call Pretty Little Liars first gen murder YA, and then Good Girl's Guide to Murder is like it's a bit edgier.

SPEAKER_03 54:22

And like and it deals with like it goes more in depth into these topics.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

Like Adult, like teachers having affairs with young women.

unknown 54:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:33

Well, actually, in Pretty Little Liars, there is a relationship between one of the teachers and one of the main girls. But like, it's turned into this whole thing because like when we were younger watching it, we thought it was so normal, and we were so mad at the girls' parents for trying to keep them apart and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 54:50

Really?

SPEAKER_03 54:51

And now looking back, we're like, what the fuck?

unknown 54:54

Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 54:56

Why did we think that was okay?

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Yeah. Oh my gosh. I don't know. Kids that age are starting to like seem like such kids to me. It's so strange. And I'm getting wrinkles on my face.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 55:17

Okay. So Jenny's like, I have a plan. And she goes up to Georgia and she's like, This is actually pretty cool. She's obviously lying. And she's like, what would push it over the edge is a champagne toast. Georgia's like, no. But Jenny says it'd be really cool. Don't be a mom right now. And of course, like Georgia was wanting to be cool. Personally, I wouldn't give kids who aren't my kids. I'd give my own kid. I feel like my own kid could get drunk. I wouldn't care. But I wouldn't give like other kids alcohol.

SPEAKER_00 55:52

That's so funny that you thought about that. The only thing that I noticed about this scene is that she took the bottle of champagne. I'm sure it's not champagne, but sparkling wine, whatever, out of the cabinet where she's also storing the gl the flutes. And I'm like, they're gonna drink warm, warm sparkling wine? That's disgusting. It hasn't even been chilled. That's all I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_05 56:17

I didn't even clock that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

Just pop a little ice cube in it. You'll be fine. But also, is Georgia so dumb that she doesn't lock the cabinet, you know?

SPEAKER_00 56:30

I guess she's so trusting. It's not even in her worldview that the girls would do this. Is that possible? I guess because she's like, she just remembers Ginny as a little girl. This is like a slumber party for 12-year-olds, 11-year-olds.

SPEAKER_03 56:48

Actually, this slumber party, though, if they got drunk, would be like really fun. You know, like pedicures, bedazzling stuff, karaoke.

unknown 56:57

Shh.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

And someone who is having a lot of fun actually is Abby. She keeps on saying. Right, right. So it seems to be some kind of a refuge from her own home life. And she keeps on saying, you know what? This is actually not so bad. And she has a Korean face mask on, and she's just like And she starts singing Selena Gomez karaoke.

SPEAKER_03 57:20

Ah, I love you, like a love so baby.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Nice. And doing the dance.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Yeah. And then uh while George is not looking, they steal all the alcohol out of the cabinet. Oh my god, Bama, can I tell you a story? Once when I was living at grandma's, like when I was like 24, like I had my friends over, and we just drank all the alcohol in her cabinet. My grandma has always a lot. She has a cabinet, like it's like a full-on wooden cabinet of alcohol. But I was just gonna go out the next morning and replace it all. I didn't really think this was a big deal. But then I wake up and I come into the living room, and grandma like has the cabinet open, and she's like, Where's the alcohol?

SPEAKER_00 58:12

She checks it. She checked it.

SPEAKER_03 58:14

Yeah, I was like the hell. She obviously heard us or heard it open or something. But she was there.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

How is that possible? She was asleep in her room.

SPEAKER_03 58:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

When you guys were doing this?

SPEAKER_03 58:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

And you thought she wouldn't notice? That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 58:29

Because she never drinks the alcohol. It's just there. And if I replaced it the next day, nobody would even see. But she obviously heard us.

SPEAKER_00 58:38

Obviously. Can we just talk about Nick?

SPEAKER_03 58:44

Oh my god. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 58:47

I loved him. I love him like this.

SPEAKER_03 58:52

I thought this was kind of bad for the gay community.

SPEAKER_00 58:55

Why? Avril Vagine. He comes in with Jesse. Jesse the secret PI, and Nick is full in drag as Avril Vagine.

SPEAKER_03 59:07

Yes. Like the thing is, why is he like crashing a teenager's birthday party?

SPEAKER_00 59:16

Because Georgia invited him. Did she though? I thought he just showed up. No, Georgia invited him.

SPEAKER_03 59:25

I just thought he like literally showed up. Okay, that makes sense. He's actually there, ready to have fun. Oh, okay. Actually, this makes more sense. And he actually is fun. Yeah, no, he is. And I'm noticing that the PI is like pretty good looking now. You just you just notice that now.

SPEAKER_00 59:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:55

I don't know. I don't really like seamen's beauties a lot, so okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:03

That's interesting because I didn't notice it at all. He's just, he's like an average person. No, he's not.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:13

He looks like trim, buff. Like I don't know. This is grossing me out. I can't talk about men like this.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

It actually feels like a lot of people. But he wasn't he wasn't even wearing anything that was even mildly revealing.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:26

Yeah, it was like a fitted Hawaiian top.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:30

Ooh, that's so sexy.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:33

Okay. So yeah, the P.I. and Avril Vagine. Was that it? Avril Vagine. Show up. And yeah, he starts. What does he sing? Does he sing Skater Boy? Oh, or complicated, or Skaterboy, I can't remember. But he sings some Avril Levine. And I think this was obviously just to get us in proximity, like get the PI in proximity to Georgia for the plot.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:59

And someone calls the PI. I don't know who they were from, but they say, Oh, they're from Yoga Bogo Boga. Is that the Yoga Studio?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:08

And they say something about how, oh, we thought like Kenny's results would have shown evidence of heart issues. So I guess they did some kind of test on him before he died.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:20

And no, so the guy goes, I was so surprised to hear that he had a heart attack because he just had this really rigorous um health uh physical before he died, and he was in excellent health. Okay, yeah. So, of course, uh the PI. So before that, Georgia actually confronts him and calls him Gabriel, which is actually his name, letting him know that she knows who he is.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

Oh, is that what that was?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

Yeah, she says, Hi, Gabriel.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:55

But he doesn't react.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:57

Of course not. And he because he's still he has to pretend like, what? What do you what do you mean? Why are you calling me that?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:04

Oh, so now he knows that she knows. Oh my god, I missed that. I didn't even pick up on that. Oh my god. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

And then he gets the call from Yoga Baboga.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

Okay, yes. So then Georgia is showing the girls the movie Clue. And they're all in their pajamas in bed. I feel like I've watched Clue. It wasn't very good. That's what I remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

But she can quote from it. Yeah. And then And she's so psyched for them. She's like, you're gonna love this.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:36

Yeah, and she says goodnight, and then of course, as she closes the door, they all go into chaos mode and they get all dressed up. And the whole time Abby is being like, this whole thing is sweet that Georgia did. Like Abby's the only one that appreciates it. And we also find out that Nora and Abby are Jewish.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

Yeah, which I want you to know is common.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:58

There is a for Jewish people to adopt Asians?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

Chinese, specifically Chinese. There's a whole community in New York. I guess along the East Coast, they're implying, but um, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

Okay. Do you remember when you thought I was supposed to be a Jewish man?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

It's because of the way you dressed, or why? Wait, what? Why did I think you had you were supposed to be a Jewish man?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:29

I don't know. Like my birthday party, you were like I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

Like a Hasidic Jew? Or just a Jewish man?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

Just because like my temperament is very like Larry David-esque or something. I don't know. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

But I also do re Not because of the way you looked. No. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

Maybe it was. I don't know your reasons, but yeah. And also, I don't know, I really relate to the religion. But now I have to get baptized Orthodox. You have to? Well, okay. My husband wants me to convert to Orthodox, but imagine I just become Jewish.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:18

And then I'll be like it works that way.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

No, and I'll be like, why don't you convert to Judaism? For me. Anyway, okay. So they all sneak out the window. At the party, Nora's talking to her boyfriend, and she's telling him how Georgia has a gun in the house.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:37

And she's so upset. And Jordan, Jordan's trying to be so comforting. Like, I know that that's so shocking.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:45

They're really communicating. And then everyone is playing beer pong. Is this Beirut? Is this the game?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

That's Beirut. It's just beer pong? I don't understand. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:57

Okay. Beirut! Oh right. So Brody. I think it's Brody, or it's the same guy from the cafeteria at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

It's Brody.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:07

He says he likes Jenny better with this straight hair, and if she had an ass, she'd be perfect. And it's kind of weird she doesn't have one. Oh my god. And Jenny's.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:22

And Hunter steps in, and all he goes is, dude, Christ man.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:27

Yeah, and Jenny's like, excuse me, and she storms off. And Hunter and Jenny go upstairs and they start talking about both being like mixed race and how he's not Asian enough for Asians or white enough for white people.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:40

No, he's not. He's he has Brody doesn't know I'm Taiwanese. I'm all of Asia to him.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:49

Yeah. I guess I'm I just pulled a Brody right there.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

You did. You did. Ah, so disappointing.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:00

And Hunter's like, I know what you are. Okay, Jenny's like, I don't know what I am, or something like that. And Hunter's like, I already knew what he was gonna say. I was like bracing for impact. And Hunter's like, You're I know what you are. You're beautiful. I wrote down, I wanted to die, Mama. And they start making out, and Jenny blurts out, I'm on the pill, and you have my consent to proceed. And Hunter stops.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:31

But then he doesn't want to do that. He's like, It's your birthday. It should be all about you.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:36

Yeah. I you know what was the point of him stopping and being like, What's that? And she's like, It's a birthmark.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:45

Because isn't that where she burns herself?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:47

Oh! Oh my god! I'm so oh my god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

Are you? It's really good that we actually do this so that uh I can fill you in on the things that you've been catching and vice versa. Yeah, that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

Yeah, that makes so much sense. I was like, Mama, should you tell your birthmark story? Because Jenny also has a birthmark.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

Yeah, she doesn't have a birthmark. She has burn marks. Yeah. I have a birthmark. I have a birthmark, a big birthmark. It's imagine a patch of leopard skin on my right knee. And when I was uh growing up, I hated it because other students would just kind of furtively, surreptitiously try to look at it and to try to figure out what it was. But I largely just grew to ignore it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

Yeah, I used to think a lot about your birthmark when I was younger. I don't really think about it anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

It's about three, it's circular and it's about three inches diameter across, which is quite sizable.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:00

So the funny joke is that when I had Imogen, yeah, after 12 hours of very painful labor, um, I had a beautiful baby, but then the nurse came into the room and was cleaning up. I guess there was a lot to clean up, and then she spent some time scrubbing my knee, and I was like, what's up? And she goes, I'm just trying to get rid of this uh stain here.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:23

Oh my god, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:24

And I'm like, no, that's so good.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:25

I said, Don't worry.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:27

That's a birthmark.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:28

Oh my god. I wonder if it's like the key to like your adoption story or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:35

There's some kind of They were so shamed they thought I was marked by the devil, so they gave me up for adoption.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:41

No! I was saying, like, it's I thought about that. No. I'm I was saying, like, like it can unlock who you are because like maybe.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:57

So that's how they're gonna identify me.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Something like that. And like because my old my an auntie will be like, oh, I remember you'll be like, they'll be like, oh, it's the it's the legend, like it's like some kind of prophecy. Like they're gonna notice it, and they're gonna be like, and there's gonna be whispers around town, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:21

Oh wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:26

Yes, it has potential for all of these scenarios, but I hated it growing up, so so meanwhile, Georgia is in the kitchen with Nick, and Georgia starts to pry and is like, you don't really know him that well, so make sure you be careful. Why isn't she just like full on telling him?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:46

I thought we were at go to Max's bedroom first with Sophie.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

Oh yeah, you're right. I skipped that part. Okay, meanwhile, Sophie and Max are making out, and we see Max is super nervous and she's being weird, and she's like, I need to lock my door. Oh yeah, my door doesn't lock, we need music, we need candles, and then Sophie's like, we can just chill. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:07

And Max is super relieved by that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:10

And then we go to the kitchen with Nick and Georgia. So why doesn't Georgia just tell Nick? Why is she letting this little facade carry on? Oh, because then she's gonna have to reveal about her past.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:27

I have a note here, but I actually can't remember what this scene was. I have a note that says Georgia warns Nick not to fall too fast.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:38

Yeah, like fall for the PI.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:40

Oh, Nick. Yes. Oh my gosh. In my mind, I was thinking Paul. Okay, so she's with Nick and says, Don't fall too fast for the PI. Okay. Sorry, I just had a little bit of a brain fart there.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:54

Yeah, so I realize she can't say anything, or else she's gonna have to reveal about her past, and the PI is gonna tell everybody about her stuff, so that's why she can't see anything. Okay. And Georgia comes into Jenny's bedroom with stuff for hot chocolate, and she finds them all.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:12

And Sundays for Sundays.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:14

Oh, for Sundays, okay. And I found it funny that when Georgia was like realizes they're all gone, she opens the sheets on the bed as if they're all gonna be like hiding under there.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:25

Like little kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:26

Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:29

She still thinks she still sees them as little kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:32

Yeah. And Jenny's laptop is open. Actually, I do the same thing with Bibi. It doesn't like I still just see her as a little baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:39

Oh, and she was so cute.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

Oh my god. And then I realized like that baby is dead.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:48

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

Same with like anyone who knew me as a baby. That baby doesn't exist anymore. The relationship you had with that baby's gone.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

Yeah. Those are that time. I always kind of wish like you could bottle up that time.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:03

That's why people keep having babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:05

I guess so.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:06

Because you want the baby, you don't really want the adult.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

It's true. Or the teenager or the teenager.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:12

I thought about this the other day. I was like, I feel like my body is like screaming out to me to have a baby because I have such bad baby fever, but I really realize I only want the baby. I don't want like the lifelong like adult that comes with the baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:27

That's good knowing. Because like when they're like six months, 12 months, 18 months, two years, three years, they are so cute. Like being that open and loving, and just they're just, I don't know. Precious, precious humans. Then they get complicated.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:47

I know. I don't want that. So maybe I should just get a dog. That just makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:53

No, it's not. It is a baby forever, and then you just have this big baby forever. The fact that babies grow up is the one thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:01

Well, somebody better have a baby soon. Actually, one of my friends said in the next year, so there you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:08

Hang out with a baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:11

Until you're ready.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:12

It's not the same because it's not mine.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

Until you're ready.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:21

Yes. So this is where the blocker scene kind of comes in. So Jenny, her laptop is open, so Georgia starts reading her messages, and this is the same as the movie Blockers, where they see all these emojis. That means sexual things. And Georgia calls the police and reports their party.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:42

Yeah, a noise violation.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:45

Yeah. And then at the party, Marcus overhears Ginny saying Hunter went down on me. And Hunter uh Marcus just takes the whole bottle of whiskey and leaves.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

Well, okay, I feel like okay, there's a little more detail there. So there's lots of drinking and partying, and Ginny is obviously inebriated, and she gives what I've called a boozy speech. It's her birthday.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:12

Did you believe her acting?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:15

I didn't even think about it. Why?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:18

Really? Anytime people are drunk in movies, I am scrutinizing. I am really, really paying attention to everything they're doing to see if I believe them.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

Well, they're actually not drunk in That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:32

So I'm like looking for, you know, Catcher in the Rye when he's like, he's looking for any kind of phoniness? I'm looking for phoniness.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:39

Just during the drunk scenes, because that's what Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:43

Hers this was this was pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:44

A true test of uh acting skill. Okay. Yeah, so she gives this boozy speech about I love you guys. You guys are like family. And then she makes that funny joke at the end where she goes, and I've discovered that Hunter is really talented with his tongue, right? And so then everyone is like, oh and then the police sirens, you can hear the police sirens go, and they're like, police, everyone run.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:15

And then Paul's like looking through the window, and he sees the cops showing up, and he's like, Okay, let's go take her before they take her down. And Georgia's like drinking wine, and she's like, I'm going to bed. And then she goes upstairs and screams into her pillow. And we get a flashback.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:33

So I I totally understand this.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:37

Okay, let me let me tell the story about when you abandon me and BB on a what are those called? Like a boogie board? Yes. Okay. No, that's a paddle board.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:50

A paddle board.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:51

Okay, a paddleboard. So it's me. I have BB at the back, and then I have my other sister at the front. So Bibi's what?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:58

Like eight years old at this point.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:01

Yeah. And my uh my other sister is probably like 21, 20, or something. And we we go out into this lake at the cottage. And Bebe's like insisting on wearing like a little life jacket, but she's sort of like, wait, what was it?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:17

Are you you were with BB? We were gonna go canoeing. So my partner, my boyfriend and I, we're gonna go canoeing. We were like, BB, you should just come canoeing with us. But she insisted on staying with you. You wanted to go paddle boarding. Or you none of you wanted to go canoeing with us. And so she was like, I'm just gonna stick with sister and we're gonna go out on one paddle board, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:44

So we end up stranded in the middle of the lake, like all three of us on the paddleboard, and then a storm starts to come in. No, it didn't. Yes, it did, and then this random man starts like rowing up to us, or he was like on like one of those motorized things.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:02

So he starts There was no rain, there was no wind, and I just couldn't get back.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:08

And I was like, in my head, I'm like, okay, I have two, like these, I have my two younger sisters here. There's a strange man approaching. If he tries to grab them, like, what am I supposed to do? Do I have to act first? Like, what am I doing? But he was actually like a friendly guy, and he ended up towing us. So he gave us a rope and he towed us. And as we come back, as he's like towing us back to the cottage, my mom and her boyfriend are just like standing there, just like watching us being towed back.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:38

Yeah. I guess the point, I guess the connection to this is that we were gonna, you guys were calling out to us in the canoe to come and pull you back.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

And I was like, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:51

But your boyfriend like wanted to, didn't he?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:54

He did. He wanted to, but I was like, no, I gave you girls the option to go on the canoe. You didn't want to, and you insisted on going out on the paddleboard, all three of you together. So we canoeed back. I made my boyfriend canoe back and wait for you. And you took forever, and then we finally saw you getting tug pulled in by this nice scenarian. So it is really similar to this with, I guess, lower stakes.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:26

So okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:29

I'm all for natural consequences.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:32

Oh my god. And so we see a flashback to Georgia being caught for her underground gambling ring, and the police are about to take Georgia away. Oh, they're about to take Ginny away from her.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:45

And she They have taken Ginny away from her.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:50

She's in the interrogation room trying to get her daughter back.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:53

Oh, I see. I thought they were like about to. And then she lies and she's like, I'm getting engaged. He has property. And I like to kind of show she can provide Ginny a stable home. Who who is she talking about getting engaged to at this point?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:07

He has a property. He has hotels.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:09

So remember the guy who tried to take her out, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:13

But it's his dad. Uh because remember, he doesn't because he does not own the hotel. He is like, it's my dad who owns these hotels. I'm just like looking, I'm watching out for these hotels for him.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:27

I think she's talking about the dad. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:33

Can I ask you with this? When you know when she's begging the uh police officer and she goes, I'll do anything. Did it ever cross your mind that she was gonna sleep with him?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:44

Yeah, I think it did. I'm trying to remember the moment, but yeah. Because she kept on saying, I'll do anything, I'll do anything to But actually she doesn't like we haven't seen her do that type of thing, like so blatantly.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:58

Yeah, you're right. I just went thought maybe they were gonna insinuate, but then she comes up with this other idea of saying that she's married to this hotel owner.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:07

Yeah. And present day Jenny is being released from jail, and we see it's Paul who's picking her up. And I guess he's doing this behind George's back. And Paul's like, You're a good kid, and you're a great sister. And he gives her a little pep talk and says, Austin is so lucky to have her. And then she asks if he loves her mom, and he says, Yes, and she says, I've never seen my mom this happy.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:35

So again, I relate to this in the sense of you know, having a good guy there to help you is definitely helpful because like I see that Georgia is just maxed out, like she's done, she's tried to connect with her child, and she's actually done everything to try to have a life with Ginny. And then to some degree, Ginny does have to face natural consequences of her choice, which was having to spend an hour in the I'm trying to think in the cell.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:06

If I would well, okay, yeah. I was trying to think if I would leave Jenny there overnight. But I'm also the one that called the cops. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:15

I would totally that would have been Georgia's thing. Because Georgia wasn't gonna go pick them, pick her up.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:24

It's the uh And actually she knows she's in a safe place, you know? Yeah. Yeah like it's this little jail cell in like this town, like she's she's not really gonna get into trouble there. Um, so Georgia is still at home drinking more wine, and Ginny comes home and she's like, This is the thanks I get, and they start fighting. And finally we see Georgia open up, and she's like, You want the truth, you want to know everything. I was molested by my stepdad, that's why I ran away.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:57

She doesn't say molested, she says I was abused.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:00

I think she did say molested. Why would I write molested? So I was abused by my stepdad, that's why I ran away when I was 14, and I've been homeless and I've been in jail, you happy kid. And what I was thinking is like, this is like a big secret, but we know she is still keeping stuff from Jenny. Like, she's not saying she killed a guy, she's not like she's leaving stuff out still, but this is like enough to make Ginny think that she's opened up like completely, and that Ginny knows everything and she's gonna stop now.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:38

Don't you think? It's a start, it's a start. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:41

And Ginny's like, you were abused, and then Ginny's like, I don't feel so good, and she goes and throws up. The next morning, Ginny is hungover, and they have some bonding time where Ginny is finally being soft to her mom, and Georgia gives her a picture of her and Zion, and they share some birthday sprinkled donuts. And Ginny's like, hunter one down on me. Again, they're both telling the truth, but not all the truth. Like, she's not telling her mom about Marcus.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:14

Yeah. And Ginny asks her, she says, Ma, are you okay now? Right? And Georgia, she goes, I'd be way stronger if I didn't have to spend so much energy dealing with that shit. I'd be the fucking president. Or I'd be the freaking president, she says.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:34

Yeah. And then as Georgia's leaving Jenny's room, she's like, Oh yeah, and we're dead broke, by the way. Having gotten the will money. Welcome to adulthood, it sucks. Yeah. That's kind of like on Friends when Monica's like, welcome to the real world. It sucks. You're gonna love it. And we hear Jenny's voiceover say, Georgia was so now Ginny is on her side all of a sudden. You know, like it's a complete 180. She's like, My mom, my Georgia was just trying to protect us. Blah blah blah. And we see Austin's first day back at school after he got expelled, and Georgia walks him to school, and Austin goes up to Zach, and instead of apologizing, he throws up and then he kind of runs away from the school.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:26

So I'm gonna disagree with you a little bit, okay, with the 180 business with Ginny. Um, but I just it's Georgia who says this is the next morning when they're, you know, Ginny is hung over, Georgia's brought some donuts, and Georgia says to her, Did you ever think that my lies are to protect you? Right? And in the voiceover, so I don't know if we've gotten to the final scene yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost. Like with the motorcycle?

SPEAKER_00 1:25:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:07

Yeah, I haven't said that yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:09

I mean, I didn't see the kind of the reconciliation between Ginny and Georgia in that bedroom scene to be like, I don't know, unrealistic, or was it it didn't ring false to me. I mean, it often h happens after you have this big confrontation where there is this sort of you know settling down. And they have shared some stuff, but you're right, they haven't shared everything. But in the voiceover at the very end, right, she says, I don't want to be like my mom. So she doesn't like align herself with Georgia.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's still like being way nicer. Okay, let's cut to the last scene. We see somebody on a motorcycle as Jenny's voiceover says, I miss my dad. I wish he was here.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:08

Well, you just cut out a humongous section, Imogen.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:11

What? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:13

Well, she goes, Don't you see Zion. Yeah, some guy on a motorcycle, and the voiceover goes, Don't trust anyone. Sting first. I don't want to go through life like that on the offensive, always fighting, always running. I don't want to be like my mom. And then she goes, then she goes, I miss my dad.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:35

Oh, I didn't write any of that down. I was just focused on Zion.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:39

Oh my gosh. Uh, this better be a huge big thing when he gets here. It better be worth it because the buildup has been what, like three episodes long.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:50

Yeah, I know. Because I thought he was gonna be here this episode, so I'm kind of disappointed.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:55

Yeah, like what's he gonna solve?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:58

I I want him to see, I don't know, I want him to shake it up. I want more chaos.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:04

Well, let's just say that I think Paul really proved himself to be a stand-up guy in this episode.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:11

And uh So we're gonna see what what is so special about Zion. That's what we're gonna see.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:17

Well, I'm just imagining these three men in Georgia's life, right? Zion, Paul, and Joe. What's gonna be the fallout from all of this? Yeah. I have no idea. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:31

Okay, love you.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:33

Love you. Bye. Bye.