Episode 8: Check One, Check Other

Breaking down Season 1 Episode 8 of Ginny & Georgia - Featuring where we feel we most belong, Imogen's obsessive walking, what is normal, the oppression olympics, 'Sometimes I do', and Imogen coming around to Ginny's poem. 

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After you watching Jenny and Georgia with my mom, her qualifications are she was a single mom to two mixed race kids. I'm Asian and my sister's Blazian. And just like Georgia, she had me when she was super young. My qualifications are just like Jenny, I was a moody teen. So happy Mother's Day. Thank you, honey. How was your day? Did you take a bath? I didn't. I went to a very expensive steakhouse in Yorkville, so that was nice. Ooh, nice. Did you have a cocktail? I did! I had a mimosa! You living it up. I am. I did feel very um decadent. I feel like growing up, it was always a special occasion when you ordered a Coke. You'd be like, oh, I'm gonna order a Coke today. It still is. It still is the case. Only on Friday night. That's when you really let loose. It is with a Coke. But that like now my husband, he always drinks pop. And I'm like, it's like really weird to me. Because he didn't. He used to like it, did he? No, he did. Like I just think he wasn't allowed to have it as a kid or something. Right. It's really bad for you. Well, I got him to switch to like only sugar-free pop, but uh but then there's people like grandma who's like still 88 and they drink full sugar pop. Anyway. There are people like your grandma who smoked, drank, drank pop, ate terribly, and is now what 83 years old? 88, yeah. Oh my gosh, 88. Aiming to live till 90. Oh my god. Amazing. Okay, let's start the show. This is season one, episode eight. It's called Check One, Check Another, I think. I literally Googled it 30 seconds ago. Hold on. Check one, check other. Check other. Okay. Um, so the show starts with a smear campaign ad that's by Cynthia against Paul. And it says that Paul is having relations with someone from his office, and there's like a picture of Georgia. Um what does it say that she's had kids with like multiple people? I can't remember. Oh my gosh. I know she at that point at some point it comes out, but there's two kind of damning interviews, or this one is a commercial, the other one is an interview. I can't remember when they reveal that little nugget. Okay. I think maybe later on in the interview. Yes. And then we see in the ad, Cynthia is walking around in a classroom looking all angelic, like a nice lady. And Georgia, of course, she wants to go low. She's like, when they go low, we go lower, or something like that, right? Yes. But Paul's. And of course, all Georgia is worried about is that they chose the worst photo of her. Yeah. And then we see Jenny is talking to Max, and they overhear Padma in an argument with Marcus, and he's like, you know, I like you. And she's like, No, I don't know that. And Marcus is like, no, wait, wait, hold on. Oh yeah, and Marcus is like, yeah, I can't do this. And she's like, what? Like, just hook up with me? And he's like, No, she says, what? This conversation or hooking up with me with zero commitment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, I can't do any of this. He's becoming really annoying to me. Oh. Why? I don't know. His little smug face. I think him and Jenny deserve each other. Just because of his smug face or because of his actual actions? Yeah, his little attitude. I don't know. Did you feel bad for him at all? During this episode? Mm-hmm. Um. Yeah, I did at the end. I did. Of course I did. Because you have to remember, they're only like 15 years old, supposedly. No, she just turned 16. Right, so who knows if he has turned 16. But he's old. No, he they're twins. I keep forgetting that. Okay. And next scene, Hunter and Max, they're talking about extracurriculars. And this is like somehow a surprise to Ginny that you'd need extracurriculars to get into college. The same thing happened on Gilmer Girls, where Rory's like, Rory didn't know this, and then she freaks out and she has to do all these extracurriculars. Like she just learns that in the first season. I kind of related to this. I'm wondering if you relate to it too. Just I was very hands-off during your high school. I mean, obviously you decide to go to a Canadian college, which is different than an American college, but I don't know if you felt prepared for post-secondary education. I certainly wasn't involved in helping you know what you had to have. Yeah, I feel like the schools also didn't really help. Like well, they have like two or three guidance counselors for like hundreds of kids. But I never like met with a guidance counselor or anything. So this year I made BB. I kept I I like all year I've been asking her, have you made an appointment to see your guidance counselor? Like I've asked her like five or six times so since September. I was like, no, no, no, no. So at the most recent parent-teacher interview, I went with her and we just crashed the guidance counselor's office and introduced ourselves and connected. See, I'm making up for past wrongs. Great. What about me? I yeah, I didn't know any options. I didn't know anything really. It was weird. I'm sorry. So I found this kind of a relatable scene. Okay, I just want to say that uh before they get to AP class, we have uh Ginny's voiceover, which says, It's dangerous to let your guard down. I see what happens when my mom and dad get together. It always ends in pain. That's not the entire voiceover. Those were just like the kind of key key uh points of the voiceover. It was kind of weird, like just from the title of this episode, kind of the first few scenes, to kind of know where this episode is going, but I guess just from that voiceover, there's kind of an indication and the way episode seven ended, I guess we can kind of guess what's gonna happen. And then they're in their racist teacher's classroom, and he says there's some kind of like junior Pulitzer essay contest, and one person's gonna get picked to go to a regional competition, and the topic is write about a place you feel you most belong. And then Max says, What if the only place you feel you belong is a dark room watching the office? Did you think about me? I totally did. I wrote down in my notes Image! Oh my god. I actually didn't prepare for this question, so I have to think about it. But like, where would your place be? I mean I think there's two different answers though. There's like where you there's the answer to the question, and then there's what you would write about if you want to win. Yeah, which is kind of a theme in this uh the conflict in this episode. I think this idea of where you most belong, is it the same thing as where you feel the where you feel most safe? Because like in a dark room watching The Office, that's where you might feel the most safe, but is that the same thing as belonging? That's interesting. I don't know. I guess that's I guess you would kind of tease those issues out in the actual essay. So what would you answer? If uh uh the first thing that comes comes to mind is like um I would write about being in the passenger seat of Omi's car driving up to her, like where she lives, because there's like right beside this dark forest, but like you're all safe in the car. But then it would also like tie to bigger themes of like I still can't drive and stuff, so I feel most uh I feel I most belong like in a child peter pan like state of yeah. That's and that's just off the top of my head. Wow. But that's saying you most belong, do you and do you uh like anticipate remaining there in that child Peter Pan state? Like where I most belong, I could also write about like I I in a music studio on the stage. I could totally write about being on stage because I actually thought like being on stage was something that wasn't that hard, but then when I performed with these people from my office and it was like this giant fundraiser, like everybody else got so nervous on stage, and they like actually started to freak out and like they were messing up all their parts, and I just felt like more at home. Is that because you have experience? Maybe, and I just like it. I don't know. Yeah, so you could say I belong there. I think I tended to think about it more as in like a calling kind of thing, or you know, I belong among my people. I belong, like kind of a cultural question or a professional question or a creative question. I would also write, like I feel like I belong, like b I would like write about like having kids and like being a mother. Like that's like also where I feel I belong. But then like because of PCOS, I may never have kids and stuff like that. I would totally I would totally win this contest, okay? Like Yes, I feel like you would write a good essay. As would I, actually. Yeah, we would go head to head. We would go head to head. Maybe we should go head to head. Oh, but you have the whole adopted thing on your side. But no, but that makes it even harder because I don't feel like I belong anywhere. Well, there's your opening sentence. I just can wait to get back to the show. I just before we move on to the essay, uh, they're comparing all their extracurriculars and uh continuing this Hunter Chen stereotype of the model, the model immigrant, right? Hunter has volunteered in Peru and won mock business proposal competitions. Of course he has. He, yeah, we get to see another side of Hunter. This is becoming more and more unlikable. Like, not even you don't even feel unjustified in not liking him at the end of this. Um, yes, so next scene is Georgia walking up to her house, and she sees a fence along her garden. The one from before that the bunny rabbit kept breaking through. So this one's like a well-built fence, and she automatically knows that Zion is there. I Oh my gosh, he's here. I okay, I did watch this twice. And the first time I was too busy writing, so I didn't really see what she saw. So I wrote the first time she sees his motorcycle, but then I watched it the second time and I was like, oh my god, yeah. It's a white picket fence around the uh garden. And I don't know why that is a a sign of Zion being there. I guess he's a handyman. Yeah, how did she know? Like Paul didn't do that. I guess he's a handyman. Sorry? Paul didn't do that, like he could have. But I guess it indicates in the past Zion comes and he fixes everything. He's a handyman. Mm-hmm. So we cut to the hallway where Ginny and Hunter uh wait, what's going on? Again, uh Ginny is still panicking about the extracurriculars. Yeah, she's putting pressure on herself to win this essay contest. And we see Abby sort of going through something, but everybody's like ignoring her or making fun of her, and then she gets interrupted by Zion's text. Like Abby's about to talk to Jenny, and then Zion texts Jenny. Yeah, and Abby is also the one bringing the fact uh that nobody has seen Nora for a few days. Mm-hmm. Right? So Max is totally absorbed with something, I can't remember what. I guess her her her upcoming play. Right. Her upcoming play. And Jenny is really absorbed with this essay, and so Abby and Nora are kind of like on the margins. Mm-hmm. And uh oh. I don't know how to turn my Apple Watch off. Um Why is it giving you a notification that you haven't stood up in a while? Time to stand. No, I actually have a knee injury right now. Um from what? From walking too much. I I went I went too hard with the walking. On your walking pad or outside? Like both. Oh my gosh. Now I can't walk for a while. Because I was getting like 20,000 steps. Are you becoming neurotic about it? Yeah, I am actually. Oh my gosh. It's really bad. But now this is like forcing me to not walk, so I have to get over it. Or maybe you have to do something other like above and beyond just walking, which is doing some weight training. Yeah, yeah. I just like the endurance part of walking. It's like a mental thing. Because like there's parts when I want to stop, but then I keep going and keep going, and then I feel good. Okay. I don't know. And I yeah, I'm gonna try to transition into running, but running's just so hard. I don't know. Well, you could do hits, right? High uh high interval training. Mm-hmm. You apparently get the same effects in much shorter time. I don't know. I just want to like push my body to the limit in some way. Okay. I I mean I ran marathon, so I understand I understand. But when you're doing those toenails fell off? Yeah, black toe. But you also have to do like weight training to make sure like your structure is strong. Because it's not just your heart, it's like your heart and your muscles. All of it has to work together. Okay, well, sorry to hear that you're injured. It's my first sign of that I'm getting old, actually. No, it's not true. I think so. Anyway, okay. Athletes, all I do is walk. Yeah, but you're an endurance athlete at this point. Okay, let's keep going. So Zion walks in. Well, can we just I'm sorry, we're really I know that we're really like um z uh zipping through these, but I'm gonna. I try to get Bing Su after this. Were you trying to get what? Bing Su. What's Bing Su? It's like shaved ice. But they put like they put like a bunch of stuff on top. So Okay, okay. So we're just gonna mention a few of the details here. Okay. Um I don't know how this comes along, but Abby. Abby gives Ginny um I said Abby gives Ginny shade about disappearing, and I guess Press and Brody are there, and they make some kind of comment to Abby about you're welcome to give me head. Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I finally learned that guy's name is Press. I was very confused all eight episodes about who was who. Yeah, I just called him Press. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you remember why they say that to her? I guess. Um No, I can't remember. I remember him saying it though. Yeah, so that anyways, they're being mean to her. Mm-hmm. And then Jinny gets even more distracted because she gets another text from Zion. And she realizes at this point that he's there. He's there because he mentions something about how it's cold that time of year and that he should have brought a jacket. Yes. So she's like, he's here. I actually put the timestamp down at five minutes and forty seconds, folks. The moment the moment Imogen has been waiting for. And he walks through the door. And this is In slow motion. Was it in slow motion? I feel like it was. I think it was, yeah, with some music playing. This is so Gilmore Girls. You don't understand. And like Christopher Rory's dad also shows up on a motorcycle. Oh my god. Okay. It's so weird the way they're doing this. It's not a coincidence. I don't it's like, do you feel like it's uh robbing? It's it's like I don't think it's close enough that you can say, but like it kind of is. I don't know. I feel like it's very close. Yeah. Having not even seen the Gilmore girls, but that seems like very close. Mm-hmm. And then Hunter meets Marcus. No, wait, Hunter and meets Zion. That's that's that's what I have written down. So first in the hall at school, um, Jenny introduces Hunter and Zion. And then she rides home on her dad's motorcycle, and then Zion meets Marcus. And Zion can sense something's Marcus is skateboarding home at the exactly that moment, and uh Ginny and Zion have just gotten off the motorcycle, and Marcus rolls up to them, and Marcus and Ginny exchange looks, and Zion immediately picks up on the dynamic. Which I feel like it wasn't like he's not some like detective, like it's not that hard to detect, you know? Yeah, but I think it's building, it's trying to make a point, which we'll get to later. I did put in my notes that Marcus salutes. I guess when he leaves. Oh, he does? I didn't see that. And then Zion walks up to Jenny's house, and we see Austin runs out and like gives him a giant hug, and he throws Austin over his shoulders. They obviously have a close relationship. And then Georgia is standing on the balcony and she's wearing like a dress and she says, Thanks for the fence. And then Zion says, Hey Peach. I was like, I was like, hey, that's from my podcast. And then Ginny kind of clocks the fact that Georgia is all dressed up. Yep. Mm-hmm. So we know something's begun. Or not begun, continuing, continuing, right? Because I mean in the voiceover in the beginning, Ginny does say, like, whenever my parents get together, you know, things never it always ends in pain. So we're kind of primed for trying to like observe this dynamic between them. And I just I I don't know if I'm gonna say I'm jumping ahead a little bit whether I'm fully convinced. Actually, I feel the same way. You think they didn't have enough like chemistry or something? I don't want to say this. I I mean I'm not trying to put the show down, right? I don't know if the actors don't have chemistry or something. Or if it's just Georgia. I don't know. Anyways. Yes, so they're gonna sit in the living room, and for some reason I thought you would find the presents he got them really funny. Of course. I don't know why. I forget what he gives the kid, but it was something like ridiculous. I mean what he gives Austin. Um, let me see if I wrote it down. Well, he gives Ginny a memoir by a Sherpa. And I wrote it down, Sherpa ang Tarkei. And then he's I didn't really get what this was about. He some of the words are underlined, and then Ginny's like, is that a code? And he kind of gives her like a sly smile. What? Like he's done annotations in the text. I don't know. That's the thing. Jenny was like, why are the some of the words underlined? Is it a code? And he just smiles at her. So I'm like, what what does that mean? Oh my gosh, I would have to go back and look at that. That's all that there is. There's nothing more. I was just kind of like, I didn't know what that was about. I didn't pick up on that. I don't know. And then Ginny tells him about the essay contest and that she's gonna write about Wellsbury. And we're supposed to s sense that something, there's kind of eye contact between Zion and Georgia, and Ginny kind of to break it up, is like Georgia's dating somebody. Is that all in that conversation? Hang on, hang on, hang on. It is, it is because then Ginny leaves the room and Zion's like, there's a vibe with that kid across the street and Ginny. Doesn't it have to do with the fact that Austin Right, says, Can we do a blanket fort? And so then Jin Georgia and Zion exchange looks because they're saying to each other, like, ooh, like Georgia's thinking, Oh, how long is he staying? And Zion is saying, Hmm, how long am I staying, Georgia? Am I staying? Oh, I just after that kind of unspoken conversation, Zion says, Okay, go get the blankets. Which means that he's staying the night. Okay. I I didn't I didn't see that. And then when Jinny leaves the room, Zion's like, There's a vibe with that kid across the street, and George is like, You have no idea. She has a boyfriend, and Zion's like, Yeah, I met him too. But George is like, if something was happening, I would know about it. I'm did she say I'm the eye of Sauron? She says I'm the eye of Sauron. And I'm like, isn't she supposed to be smart? Okay, these are the dumb things she's done. She with the liquor cabinet in the previous episode. That's still bothering you? Well, like, she didn't think to close the liquor cabinet. That's like and then not seeing this thing between Marcus and Jenny. I thought we talked about this already. Yes, she sees her as a little girl. Yeah, she just is very trusting and she doesn't see them as these uh teens with ulterior motives. I guess in this episode she finally catches on, but remember, like she herself didn't really have a um you know, a stable adolescence. Mm-hmm. Right? She was she was 15 when she had a child. Yeah, ran away from home. Isn't that weird? Imagine BB having a kid in like 10 months. But it's not just that, but she ran away from home. It's not like she had like tons of support around her. She ran away with the child, and as we'll see soon, had to really uh resort to very uh extreme measures in order to survive. In her mind, she felt like she had to, right? So I don't know. I mean, when you say that you think that she's smart, like what kind of smart? She's supposed to be like cunning, no? She doesn't seem that smart at all. Not in a kind of intuitive sense when it comes to relationships with people she's close to. That's true. So that night Georgia comes into Ginny's bed, and Ginny's like, don't do anything stupid. Mom, this is the happiest you've ever looked. Hang on, can we just hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. So we also find that Zion and Raquel have broke up. And again, so they keep on in these interactions, Zion and and uh Georgia kind of keep on having this eye conversation, right? Again, it's not that convincing. I don't feel tons of chemistry between them. But yeah. What I I wonder what is missing. It's just the je ne sais quoi that's missing. Perhaps I'm being too strong harsh on them. I guess it would be kind of awkward. Right? Because they don't really they haven't seen each other for I don't know how many months, and to kind of suddenly just uh be intimately chatting with each other about their child. I don't know if that would happen. You're right. I don't know. And we get a flashback of young Georgia and Ginny, where Ginny is holding hands with the old guy. I think it's like the guy that was renting her the apartment or giving her the apartment for free, right? Anthony, yeah. Yeah. And they sort of tricked the woman that was gonna take Ginny away, that they're married. But we see that this guy is holding it over her head and holding Georgia kind of hostage in the apartment and making her watch Lord of the Rings as torture. You think that's gonna be something really devious, like she's been uh forced into sex slavery or something like that, right? And all he's like, he pats the seat beside him and he's like, Come and sit down. We have to watch uh Lord of the Rings, right? Maybe that is subconsciously why I watched Lord of the W Rings this week. Really? Yeah. I was just like, I don't know. I got in the mood. That was hilarious because he says to her as well, you have to watch really closely. There's a lot of things happening. That's why we also have to watch it twice. Didn't we once watch all of them on New Year's Eve? Yes. I thought it was gonna become like uh my New Year's Eve tradition. But they're just so long and they're just so dark. Right? Except for that last uh five minutes at the end. Yeah. When he saves the world. No, or the very just watch the very beginning. That's also so nice. Yes. Yes, when they're in um Hobbiton or when they're in uh the elf elf world. That was my favorite. I heard is is it called Hobbiton, or did you just make that up? The Shire. The Shire. I think the town is called Hobbiton. Oh really? Um I heard they showed you that because it makes you like it's like, oh, this is a world worth saving. Did the first like half an hour? Yeah. Sometimes when I'm trying to fall asleep, I think I'm there. Yeah, I so you know I've learned my lesson. I now have the second computer, right? Yes, it is called Hobbiton. So that's like the Bagend in Hobbiton, located within the Shire. Oh yeah. I see. So you dream of being in the Shire? Yeah. In the little the little the circle door in the hill. Yeah. I mostly yeah, or I'm just lying in the grass. Nice. Yeah. So I cured my insomnia. Ah, very good. Okay. So what's going on? Yes, then we say see in present day. Ginny. Yeah. Sorry. I kind of interrupted you before when you were talking about this conversation between Ginny and Georgia. And I think that we should maybe talk about it a little bit more. Really? I didn't really see anything to talk about there. Well, why is she in bed with Georgia? Sorry, why is Georgia in bed with Ginny? Ginny says, Mom, we both know the only reason why you're here is so that you don't crawl in with dad. Oh, she says that? Oh my gosh. Yeah. She also tells Georgia tells Ginny, sorry, Ginny tells Georgia, the whole town's watching. Plus, we like Paul. And Georgia says, You're right, we do like Paul. Ginny also goes, This town, this job, this town, it's the closest to normal you've ever been. Mm-hmm. I thought about that idea of normal. And that's when she just said when Ginny says, We both, we both know you're in bed with me, so you won't go to dad. And then I thought very, very uh meaningfully, she says, Can he just be my dad this time instead of your ex? That's a punch to the gut. Right? And then Georgia looks at her before she falls asleep and says, You have nothing to worry about. And we both know, we all know. Famous last words. Right? We we really wish, I think like Ginny, we're really, we're really voting for them. We're for who? For Georgia's words to be true, that she has nothing to worry about. I want I wanted Zion and her to get back together. But we all know it ends in pain. But why? Okay, does he like not want to Because I okay, here's the thing. In Gilmer Girls, this it's the same relationship, except we actually see Chris being like a shitty dad. Like he's never there for Rory. We see like he doesn't actually want to be a dad, and he can't stick to one place. And we see that like in his actions, but then Zion, it seems like he's all over the world, but he's still like there for Ginny. Is he though in a way that she doesn't feel like abandoned, you know? She's like, I miss dad. Like she's texting him, like Yeah, but that's how is that enough? It's more that she Zion is portrayed from the point of view of like through Ginny's eyes, and he can do no wrong. So any little thing that he does for her is just like considered heroic. But what is he really doing? Why doesn't he like hang around? Yeah. Like she's sixteen, and it sounds like he's just been in and out of her life. Yeah. I don't know, he's got a book deal. The man's busy. Um and then in present day we see Jenny reading the beginning of her essay to her dad, and she basically has this really boring line about how Wellsbury is a progressive utopia, and it's the place she feels she most belongs. Oh my god, her essay was so bad. Yeah, isn't that the point though? I guess, but like I just it made me think she just wasn't that smart of a person. No, what you're using this word smart a lot this episode. I'm sorry. I have to disagree. Like self-aware has any creativity in her brain? No, well, we're gonna get there. I think it's you know, in the beginning of this episode when we were talking about what is the actual meaning of the essay. Virginie, she's taking it very literally in the sense of like this is the first place she actually has felt like she belongs. Mm-hmm. Well, she should write about it like she has connections, she they're putting down roots for the first time. She has friends, she has a friend group. Like literally, I belong here. That essay would have won. Like talking about her childhood and moving to twelve different places. If she had just written it. Yeah. Yeah. And Zion's like, really? This is where you most belong. And Jenny's kind of this is what I wrote. She's throwing shade, saying, I know you didn't go to one college, you just took a bunch of courses, but that's not how things are done here. And then back at the mayor's office, we hear another attack ad from Cynthia. Okay, this is where it is, where Georgia has two children from different fathers. Right, so let's just comment on that, because I too have two children from two different fathers. And this idea of normal, right? When Ginny says to Georgia, this is the closest to normal you've ever been. But does it So this idea of it's not normal to have, you know, two different children with two different fathers, and the idea of suburbia and doesn't Jeff Bezos' wife also have two children from different fathers? The new one? Yeah. Lauren Sanchez? Yeah. Well, I'm just saying it's yeah, I'm sure there are many women out there that do. I'm just I don't know any. There is this idea of um, like, I don't know if it's I guess it came from the church. It came from religion, right? Or even before then, I guess. It came from the patriarchy. But what is it, what is it to be normal? I just like that's just like a question. I just hovers over all of this. So moving on, what they bringing in the church, right? They do find Paul says. I only know I was just gonna say I only have like I only know one normal family who it's like my friends, and they're just like they got married, they have like normal jobs, they have like kids now, and they're just like happy, and they don't have like mental illness at all, and they just like live their life. But do you think it's actually like that behind the scenes? I do. I actually do. But they're the only ones. And so when you think about them, do you think that they are more content than say a group of a friend that you feel is not quote unquote normal? I think they are, but not because they're normal. Maybe it's because they I don't know. Okay. I don't even know. Because like I I don't know. I don't know. Again, so there have been themes in this uh throughout this sh um season about classism. I think this is very much a classism issue. So, moving on, I don't know if it's Nick or Paul who then like after the the uh commercial finishes, they say that the Historical Society and the Unitarian Church have dropped out of the fundraising dinner, right? Because accord again, amongst those communities have you know, it's scandalous. Scandalous, I tell you. And then uh Georgia tells Paul that Zion is in town, but he has nothing to worry about. And Paul's like, he can't wait to meet him, and we should have dinner tonight. Tonight works. And of course, uh Georgia is all smiles and says, Of course, of course, but there's also panic behind her eyes. Mm-hmm. I I don't know. I am I the only person that like I really like awkward situations. You would not? Yes, I do in this kind of way. Like I engineer situations like this. Like I'll invite like two people for a dinner that like have no business meeting just because it's like I don't know, I get off on that like. I thought that I thought it terrified you. How do you for the longest time you were like scared of ordering food over the telephone? But that's just like a funny thing. That's like a bit I do. Okay. So now you like engineer awkward social situations and just like a scientist. Observe the awkwardness, the ensuing awkwardness. I had no idea. My god. It seems to me every time we have dinner, you come over, you're like so stressed out by familiar and familial interactions. Yeah, not with family. Oh, okay. I'm not talking about family. Anyway. Um, where are we? Hallway at school. Oh yeah, I just wrote down everyone's too busy for Abby again. Okay. Max and Sophie are rehearsing lines. Oh my god. Okay. And Ginny is on the laptop writing her essay. And Abby feels left out, asks if they're still up for some mangot time at the blue farm. Oh my god. Mango? I didn't see it. Mango time. Mango time. And she mentions that Norm's not there. And Hunter joins. The reason why I wanted to talk about this scene is because of these next phrases. I want us to do them. He says, K Pasa Kilbasa. Oh yeah. And what does she say? What does she say? Nada limonata. Not anata liminata. Kasa kilbasa. Nada. Wait, I forget what it is. Oh my gosh, they're so uh I don't know if that's cute or gross, yes. Yeah. And then everyone walks off leaving Abby. Mm-hmm. And then we cut to dinner with Paul and Zion, and Georgia's clearly uncomfortable. And Zion says he's been working on his book about the something people of Nepal. The Route? What did you write? The Route People of Nepal. Mm-hmm. And this is when Paul, we find out Paul also did a trek of Nepal. And Zion did Snowman. Oh, I should have looked up Snowman. Do you want to look up what that is? Yeah. So Paul did Anna Purna. And Oh mama, I looked I looked up that um I watched some of Ricky Snickety. Yes. And yeah, I didn't think it was that funny, but the main guy, you know the red-haired guy? Yeah. He does like a really big podcast with Bobby Lee. Okay, is that good? Is that interesting? You're the one that showed me Bobby Lee. Who is this? He kind of like the stocky, he's got a bit stocky, right? Yeah, but you showed me you showed me like my favorite clip where he's where it's like he's doing a North Korean um like informational video, and they're like, okay, push the buttons, push the buttons, and he's like pushing them really weirdly, and they're like, You never push the buttons like that. And then his catch line is like, sometimes I do. Yeah. You you would not believe the amount of times sometimes I do comes in handy. Sometimes I do it happens to me so often where I can use that phrase. Like sometimes I do. Like you never go there. Sometimes I do. Bobby Lee. I've forgotten about Bobby Lee. I do have him up here. I see him, the North Korean scientist. So one of them has a podcast, one of the actors from Ricky Stanicki has a podcast. The main red-haired guy, yeah. The main red-haired guy. It's called Bad Friends. But you showed me that clip of Bobby Lee, and I loved it so much. It would be like my go-to clip when trying to impress somebody. I I I showed it to my ex, I've shown it to my husband. They think I'm hilarious. So his name is Andrew Santino, so he's the one that has a podcast with Bobby Lee. That seems a really weird connection. Yeah. Okay. Um, the snowman track in Bhutan is a legendary high altitude 25 to 30 day expedition. Why are they considered one of the most world one of the world's most challenging tracks? I want to hike to base camp. I don't want to actually go up to Everest. I just want to do the walk to base camp. Okay. But apparently the airport is very sketchy. Oh, okay. It's like the worst airport in the world, I think. You just have to be careful then. Don't let that stop you. What am I supposed to do? Just take care of your belongings. Imagine I learned to fly a plane before I learned to drive a car. Why is that one of your goals too? To fly a plane? Yes. No, no. I mean to ride a motorcycle, yes. Okay. Okay. And then are bonding, right? Mm-hmm. And they end up going into the f uh the blanket for it together. I think like the writers must have panicked. Like, how are like what's gonna happen? Like, I feel like I could feel them like panicking in this episode. In this scene. Well, which one? The scene or the episode? The scene. About like how this dinner should go. Like, I feel like they didn't really have a plan. I don't know. That's how I felt. Why should it have been more catastrophic or more like eventful? Yeah, or like just deeper, deeper emotions. I don't know. I don't know. It felt very like Netflix. I don't know how to describe it other than that. Yeah. I mean, this this whole scene was more. Um They're competing, right? Because Zion cooked the dinner. He made the momos. And we know maybe that's it. I didn't feel enough competition. Maybe that was it. Yeah. Yeah. And then we know Paul sometimes cooks breakfast, right? And it's just like, yeah, yeah. Uh, but then they immediately bond over Snowman. The Himalayan track. Um What would be your thing? If you were at a dinner party and you found out something about somebody, like what would be your snowman? Like to outdo them? No, like that would make you bond instantly. Like marathon running. Oh, you ran you ran Ottawa Marathon? Oh my gosh, so did I. Okay. Okay. Let me tell you about the time I ran the Ottawa Marathon with my period. To poop your pants? No. No, but people do. But I had my period. Yeah. I had to change my tampon in the middle of the run, like twenty twenty K in, and it was horrible. It was like, at least it wasn't right before your period. That would be worse for me personally. Yeah. Like once I get my period, I feel like free. Okay. I don't know. It's the days before where I'm like suicidal. Yeah. How about you? Uh I don't know. I think the beat writers. Like that's also what first came to mind, but like at this point, I I don't I don't remember anything. Okay. Sisu. Sisu. I don't know. I I'll have to think about it. Sisu is the finish thing. But that we could like instantly bond and I would be able to like talk to them about it. Yeah. I'm trying to think. I don't know. Oh, I know the office. Ricky Gervais. Okay, Ricky Gervais is a good one. Not the office, but like the Ricky. Okay, if they know about the Ricky Gervais podcast and we can go into the XFM radio show. Yes. Or like insomnia, if they have insomnia. Or if they've like been abused. What? Oh, Imogen. Okay. Oh gosh. What? I feel terrible that I didn't know. Okay. Okay. Alright. I found. You're right. I think this episode could have been better. And I feel like thematically was weird. At the end of that dinner, we see Paul and Ginny standing, like hugging in the entryway. Paul saying goodnight. And he goes, We're good, right? Nothing's changed. No, wait, but we have we first cut to Abby's room. We do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have that. Oh. Okay, keep going, keep going. No, no, no. I think that happens right after this. And Georgia says, Absolutely. And they kiss, he leaves, Paul leaves. And immediately Zion walks down the stairs and he goes, I like him. Oh no, so Zion and Ginny walk down the stairs. Yeah. And he goes, I like him. And we see that um Zion and Ginny are about to go out. Mm-hmm. Okay. So it's what, like eight o'clock at night? Where are you going? To find where she most belongs. Yeah. And then it cuts to Abby's bedroom. And then in Abby's room, we see her mom come in. And this is So Abby's texting and crying first. Yeah. And Abby asks, oh, so he's all moved out now. So we know her parents are divorced. And then she asks the main group chat if anybody can hang out. But we see like Max is practicing for a musical and kind of like ignores it. And then obviously Jenny is busy with her dad. So yeah, so when right after that, we do go to Max's living room where she's rehearsing lines with Sophie. And she ignores the text, and then Marcus joins them. And Marcus is looking very brooding and sitting on the on the sofa. And um Max is like, Hello, can you please leave? Right? And um Yeah. He reveals, Oh, I think I'm in love. But then Sophie kind of nudges Max to keep asking. And Marcus is like, There's this girl, and I can't stop thinking about her. And Max is kind of like, so just tell Padma that you screwed up and you're sorry. Mm-hmm. And then I'm actually so excited for when Max finds out about Marcus and Ginny. Because of the like the drama that's right. Because we know obviously that it's not Padma that he's uh pining over. It's uh someone else. And then we see Zion brought Ginny to what I wrote this down at the time, what I think is an open mic. And I was kind of very aware in this scene about like how young and like green Ginny seems. Of course she's 16 years old being brought to a bar. Of course she is. I don't know. It made me think also about like how when you have kids, like how exciting it must be for the parent, like showing the kids like everything. Because it's like so exciting to the kid, you know? I guess I thought, like, where are they? Obviously, I don't we obviously don't know where Wellsbury is, but they drove to Boston. We find out later, like they're gonna be able to do it. How far is that do you think? An hour? Like, I've no I don't know where this fictional town of Wellsbury is, but I was more like, oh, it's very late. That's what I was thinking. Is it a school night? Um yeah, this scene was nice, I guess. And Jenny talks to Zion about how Georgia hid her family, but we see Zion is kind of defending Georgia. And then Yeah, to her, her parents are dead. Mm-hmm. And then the open mic starts, and we see it's slam poetry. Um This guy There's no clapping, there's only and the sky's poem, this guy's on stage, and he's like, I know my heart is not a house, but I call it home. So I look up, I looked up this guy, he's actually a beat poet. His name is David De Lesca. And he's The guy performing? Yeah, I thought he was amazing. He's an award-winning spoken word poet. What? Yeah, he's like legit. How are you you can be a beat poet now? Yeah, I guess so. But what like I thought what what's a beat poet now? Hang on. I don't know if I put I have beat poet in my notes. I don't know if I called him a beat poem. Hang on. I don't know if I called him a beat poet or if he actually has that moniker. Hang on. Just wait. Okay. I didn't realize that was a real poem. Yes. Yeah, I think I put beat poet. So he's a spoken word poet. I put beat poet. And Zion tells Ginny she has to tell her own story. She has to speak from the heart. And then she's just like, How long are you staying this time? Well, hang on, hang on. So after David Delisca finishes his poem, it cuts to Ginny's bedroom. Okay, this is the thing. The first time I watched this, I was too busy writing down what was going on that I missed that scene. So the second time you watched it, you saw it. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not in your notes. Yes, yeah. Okay. So Georgia comes in to get uh Ginny's laundry. When guess who climbs through the window? Marcus. Like finally, somebody finds out about this. And as soon as Marcus sees Georgia, he kind of falls down. And then Georgia goes, I really hate it when he's right. Mm-hmm. And so then, back at the open mic, we see Zion, he gets on stage. And was this okay, he says a poem basically about being Jinny's dad? Yeah. Is he improvising this in the moment? Yes. Yes, he is. But uh part of me kind of thinks he had some of the lines prepared. I don't I wasn't really that sophisticated of a poem. My little girl and I. I know My little girl and I go camping. She says, I want a roasted marshmallow. So I roasted, so I did. Right? So that was kind of the thing. My little girl and I pike the Grand Canyon. I feel like he probably could have made that up. Okay. And at first Ginny's like a bit mortified, but then when she realizes it's good, she's like, she starts tearing up. Yeah. Yeah. So Zion gives her the whole speech about speaking from the heart, speaking your own truth. Right? Uh you have to tell your own story. And Ginny goes, How long are you staying this time? I need you around. You balance out, Mom. And then back at home, Georgia is drinking wine as they come home. And she's like, Did you guys have a good time? And Ginny's like gushing about the night. Hang on. She calls him, she calls Ginny calls Zion Langston Hughes in a leather jacket. Who is that? Langston Hughes is a black poet. Oh, okay. In like the 50s and 60s, I want to say. I should look up his poetry. It's so funny when they walk in, they're in the middle of this conversation, and they're like comparing their thoughts on all the different poets, and she and Ginny's like, yeah, like the guy who did his whole piece in iambic pentameter, and they're all like, ha ha ha ha. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Remember again when I was asking you, like, where does Ginny get a lot of this? It's like it's from Zion, right? Yeah. Yeah, you solve the mystery. Yeah. And then, yeah, Georgia's like, I had an inspiring night too. Let me do a little slam poetry. She's yeah, she's obviously pissed off. She's like, motherhood, fury, anger, doing the laundry, lies. I don't know. Again, I again I don't want to say anything mean about Why No, say it. Say it! The chops, but I've I find the acting like Yeah. I guess how would you handle that scene if you were an actor? So it's in the script that you have to act pissed and stand up and go, I have my own poem here. It's my I don't know how that somebody is going to make me be an actor. I think about it so much, like I'm like, okay, I have to cry now on camera. Like, what am I gonna think about? So I I I test myself. I like start thinking about like family members dying, and I try to really pretend there's people watching me and I have to do this now. I don't know, it's it's terrible. Having to do that. You give yourself anxiety over these things. These these and I even started looking up acting classes too. But they're really expensive. So I was like, I don't really want to spend my money on this, but I don't know. I think about it. It's hard. It's I feel like it's a hard thing that does not come naturally to me. I guess you just haven't had a lot of experience, but you perform, so like I could be myself. You could be yourself. But even being yourself on camera, even talking now into this mic, I don't think I'm myself. Okay. Because it's being captured. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um yeah, so she Georgia executes her own piece of slam poetry. Um and I think George Ginny storms off saying, You're the worst mom in the world. I hate you. And then Georgia very maturely yells, I hate you more. And Georgia all Ginny also calls Georgia out about the she's like, Oh, you're the you're this is like the pot calling the colour. About lying, about lying. Yeah. Because Georgia also has Zion and and Paul. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yes. And I have this in my notes because Ginny's like, uh there's vibes between like you and dad. And I wrote, have there been vibes? That's in my notes. Have there? That's what I mean. Like, I don't really feel any chemistry between them. And Ginny storms off when Zion's like, I was right. And he says, She's growing up, we can't stop her. Like, I guess about all the things that she's doing. And he does like diffuse the situation. Well, Georgia goes, Thank God I put her on the pill. And Zion says, You always do this. Try to control everyone. And then Georgia goes, I miss this. Yeah. And you're like, what? And then she goes, Good night. And she just leaves Zion hanging. But it's just Yeah. So that could be part of the writing. I don't know. Yeah. Kind of funny. Maybe we should try to like, we should print out a script for one, like in it for a scene, and we should try to act it out to see if we can do a good job. Do a better job. Yeah. Next morning, Georgia is dropping off Austin. Oh yeah, I didn't really know what this was about. So Georgia's dropping off Austin, and then we see Austin running away from the school after she drives away. But it's not fine, right? They've largely been ignoring Austin's storyline, but I don't I I think we're gonna find out that Austin has been skipping school. Okay, but when BB skips school, I get like billions of they phone the morning of, then they they email and then they phone in the night and then they leave messages. I'm like, I get it. Sh she ain't there. No, she's you would she's not skipping school, she's late for school. Okay? Because trust me, she wouldn't last very long if she was skipping school. But no, she has been late for school. But sometimes obviously no, I I have yeah, you're right. I I have her location, so sometimes I'll just like look at her little dot and I'll be like, run, run, run, you're almost there. I can't believe that. That's hilarious. Yeah, who knows what's happening to Austin? We're gonna find out. But you would think that they would have some kind of a safe arrival process at that school. Well, because there's only two, like after there's only one more episode until the finale, so. Yeah. Yeah. Then we cut to Ginny's classroom where Hunter is ending his essay, and he's like, that's where I feel I most belong. At home with my family, with my guitar. I died! I died. It was so funny. Oh my god. And then Ginny goes up to read her essay. This is where I got secondhand embarrassment from her essay. I was like, I don't think anything can make me cringe more than Hunter's, but then hers did. Did it? It did. You liked it? Why? Why? I'm like, this is so inappropriate. Why? It's like if I asked you to like uh make me an animation and then you gave me a watercolor painting. So you agree with Hunter's point. Yeah. Because that's exactly the point that Hunter made. Yeah, I did. Even before he said it, I was like, this is insane. Like for her to think that she could win an essay contest with a spoken word poem. A lot of people would have to get cool about a lot of things really fast. Well, what makes an essay? An essay is comprised of five paragraphs. Is that what it is? And the paragraph has a topic sentence, supporting details, a closing sentence, right? Um if you wrote her poem in paragraphs, I don't know. Yeah, it was a little bit unconventional, but I feel in her her story arc in this story, it fully made sense. So she goes, Ginny is reading her essay, and we see it's more of a slam poem about her identity. Did you write any of the poem down? I belong in the spaces in between. And this is where the title of the the episode comes because check one, check other is from this poem. Mama, I did some like really cool present like unconventional presentations in my day. Yes. And one of them was I was doing a pr uh presentation on David Hume, and his philosophy was like, just because something's happened a million times before doesn't mean it's gonna happen again. And so what I did is I baked a bunch of cookies using salt instead of sugar. And then at the end of my presentation, I was like, oh yeah, and I also made cookies for everybody, and everyone bit into the cookies and started vomiting because they were just pure salt. And I was like, see, just because you've always had sweet cookies doesn't mean it's gonna happen this time. Haha. And everyone was vomiting. That uh is quite amazing. I feel like that theory, that whatever that is, that principle, or I don't know if it's a principle, but I isn't that like a Buddhist tenant. I feel like I have said this. So there's actually a philosopher that has that as his main tenant. Yeah. David Hume. I actually say that. But like he was a bit out there. Like he's saying, like, just because the sun rose yesterday doesn't mean but actually that's true, you could die in your sleep. Okay. Oh, so that's what No, that's not what he meant. He meant like physically, we don't know if the sun's gonna come up tomorrow. Okay. So like he's a bit more out there. Okay. And everybody I think in the Buddhist in the Buddhist uh philosophy it would be more like just be present. Because when you think about, oh, it's happened a hundred times before, you're living in the past. Right? So, but if you're always just present, you can't actually and you shouldn't be anticipating what's coming in the future because you're just in the present. Why don't they just create a new religion that takes the best parts of every religion and puts it together in one? But isn't that what secular society is gives you the freedom to do? Ha ha. Okay. Everybody gets up and claps for Jenny. Well, Max does. She erupts and she's like, Everyone, stand up! That was the I think I actually I have friends that are like Max in my life. Like supportive. Yeah, like overly supportive. Overly? I'm really surprised that you're just so down on Ginny's poem. Really? Yes. Like there's a time and a place. I don't know. I what other better place for this kind of thing than your English class? But it was an essay contest. Like No, it was about speaking your truth about where you most belong. No, but it was an essay contest. It was a Pulitzer essay contest. If it had been a slam poet, not even a slam poetry, a f creative writing. But it was an essay. But even those I know. So this Pulitzer, because we that name, the Pulitzer is associated with the actual Pulitzer Prize, which is a very prestigious writing award in the United States. These are what we call like the the institutional things. And like I tried something like Ginny once. Trying to break those very colonial institutions. In college, for my final exam, like not exam, but like a final performance. Um, I was doing all original songs, and I wanted to do something different, so I decided for that the right before my set, and again, the guy like marking my entire performance is sitting front row. I was like, I'm gonna scream for 20 seconds into the mic. And it's gonna set me apart. And then this guy marking my thing said, after the scream, it was quite good. So like, Ginny, I already know this kind of stuff is not rewarded. Like So you're projecting a lot of your own sort of experiences on her, kind of in a I don't know. I just I don't know. Maybe it's getting very close. Maybe it's getting it's hitting too close to home. Well, like, it's just like follow the rules, you know? That's what they want. Okay, Hunter Chen. That's not what I want. That's not what I want. Okay. That's what that's what they want. Like, if you want to win, you have to play by their rules. Okay. So in the end, who wins? Hunter. I think it's so funny that the teacher literally made the announcement 30 seconds after Ginny finishes. Yeah. What type of uh like judging process was that? It wasn't very rigorous, obviously. And then Ginny approaches her teacher and he tells her it was too unconventional. This is where I wrote. I kind of agree. Like, that wasn't an essay. Okay, Hunter Chen. Let's go on to the next slide. Okay. And then we cut. To Max's bedroom where Sophie is helping her with her sheet music and the vibes are right and they end up having sex. Yay to Max. Okay, so here's the next big scene. I've been thinking about what to say in this analysis, and I'm gonna hold back. So let's let's go. Let's start. What? I don't even know what big scene is coming up. Uh this is the Olympics. Oh my god. Okay. I'm just remembering some of the stuff we said. Okay. So Jinny and Hunter, they're in her bedroom, and we see Ginny's still mad about not winning, and Hunter's like, if you're so concerned with what this teacher thinks of you, then why do you keep causing drama in his class? Excuse me. And then they get into it. And Ginny's like, Asians get to be stereotyped as talented geniuses, and black women are stupid and lazy and angry. And then Hunter's like, Do you know what it means to be Taiwanese? I have to serve in the military when I'm 19 or give up my citizenship. He's like, I worked hard on my essay, I followed the rules. And she's like, You're barely even Asian. You love cheeseburgers, and I know more Mandarin than you do. And he's like, I've never seen you pound back jerk chicken. Woo! Oh my god! I was like, oh my god. And Brody twerked better than you. Yeah. Imagine being the actor having to say that. I'd be like, really? Really? This is my script. These are my lines. So what did you think? He also says it's also about it's also it's all about survival. I keep my head down, I do the thing that's asked. Mm-hmm. He did you talk about him being Taiwanese and having to do military service? Yeah. And when he goes over there, he doesn't fit in there either. Right? Um Yeah. I I don't know. This was uh a really cringy scene. What why do you say cringy? Just because of the things they just because of the jerk chicken and twerking, to be honest. Well, I'm gonna actually go out there and say that it's a it was a brave scene, actually. I think it was a very brave scene. Um and so then when Ginny says Asians get to be stereotyped as talented, genius, prodigies, black women are are seen as stupid, lazy, and angry, and then Hunter says, Okay, fine, we're gonna have the oppression Olympics, right? And then the things that he then lists off, right? That he has to do Taiwanese, he has to do military service, he doesn't fit in. But I think being I think what he should have said, like, I feel like with Asian men, there's like a difference between like how Asian men and Asian women are stereotyped. But that's not but that's honestly not the same as the oppression that black people have suffered. Yeah, obviously. Anyways, I've decided, like, I I'm not gonna like weigh in either way. I've been thinking about this a lot because like who is one person to say, like, your pain is worse than another's? Yeah. Right? But um the way I have I once heard it said was that if you could imagine the experience or the event is like the air in a balloon, okay? Okay, and then or that's all the pain, and that you know, some balloons might be bigger than other balloons, right? But when you're in a room and you burst that balloon, the air fills up the entire space. So whether it's just a small amount of air, it fills up that space. If it's a big amount of air in that balloon, it fills up that space. So for that person, even if it's just small, it's for them, it feels big, right? Um it's really tricky when you're dealing with these kinds of things to say like one person's pain is worse than another. Well, me and my husband recently got into it because like he like when he was a kid, NATO was like bombing his country and he had to like live through war. Okay, I almost died when I was 15. Like, and that's the problem. Yeah. That's why it's just sort of like I don't even want to weigh in on like who's right or who's wrong. But um Well, Jenny's obviously right, but yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but then also it's not right to go around like trying to compare at the same time. Well, it's not that it's not right, it's maybe not productive. Like, I'm not gonna deny a person that has had a certain experiences, no matter what race, to go around and try to understand their experience within a historical context. Like, I'm not gonna say you shouldn't be doing that. Anyways, I just uh it was a brave scene, and I think people who watch it will weigh in. I've actually never seen this kind of a scene before. Yeah, me neither, actually. Right? And Hunter doesn't come out looking great. Mm-hmm. And then Hunter starts tearing up and he's like, You met my family. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he leaves. And I I'm happy that Ginny just let him walk out and that she didn't run after him, but she was kind of left speechless. Um but I was in my mind, I was like, Good riddance, you just let him go. Let him go, girl. And that night, Jenny and Zion are what uh can only be described as jamming together. And then she says, Dad, stop. And she tells him that Hunter won the contest. And Zion basically tells her she's never gonna be happy until she accept accepts herself or something like that. Yeah. He says, You have to navigate two worlds and accept that you're you. Your poem was real art. And I actually agree with this. So whether she wins the contest or not, I think she does come out feeling that yeah, she created a piece of art. And I agree. Yeah, but she could have created that on the side and done an open mic and read that, and then also won written a really good essay and won that contest. And then also dump Hunter. Yeah, but I think I think you're missing a point here. Um slam poetry. I th I I I could probably Google the history of it, but I do feel like it came out of uh black culture. So the fact that she wrote a poem was her connecting with her black culture. Hmm, okay. So she an essay, if you will, is a very formatted piece of writing, and it was for a very kind of institutionalized award. Mm-hmm. Right? So she went in there trying to like Oh, wait, disrupt! I like that. Disrupt that kind of colonial system with a black form of writing. Oh my god, I really love that. You're making me come around. There we go. And Zion notices all the art on her wall, but he sees one is not the same as others, and he's like, Oh, who's that by? And we know Marcus gave it to her. But then at the same time, Ginny gets a text from Abby saying, Blue Farm Now, SOS. We have we don't see um what's his face this episode? Joe. No. Where is Joe been? He's got a week off? Ooh, the actor was probably. Maybe he was filming somewhere else. I feel like that must be really nice because like as an actor, you can probably like go to the dentist and stuff if you have a week off. Yeah. Among other things. So, yes, they so Abby arrives to the blue farm, and then we also see Nora comes, and I wrote in my notes where has she been? Everyone wants to know. It's a big mystery. If somebody did this to my character, I'd be like, Am I not a good actor? Like, you don't want me on the show or something. No, she's been absent for a reason. I know, but that's what the writers would tell me, but it would feel a bit different, you know? There's probably politics to all this. And Abby tells them about her parents, and she says, You guys completely abandoned me, and you guys are bad friends, and Mang is dead. And Ginny's like, I've had a lot of family stuff too. And Max is like, I had sex, and Abby says, Screw you. And Ginny's like, You can be a real bitch, and then Abby slaps her across the face. But Max diffuses diffuses the situation by slapping herself. Yeah. Wow, you wrote that down in a lot of detail. I did. Yes. And we see on the TV Nora's mom is talking to Cynthia about how Nora told her there were guns in Georgia's house. And Nora's like, that's why I've been avoiding you. I'm so sorry. And J's like, hold on. And then she turns to Max and is like, You had sex? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. They I feel like they just don't want to get into Oh, actually though, I feel like they don't get into drama this season in this friend group, but in season three they do. And like there's like big friend drama happening in season three. And I just they just finished filming season four. We got a lot of watching to do. I know. The thing is, I didn't really watch season two. Good. So because it was kind of getting bad. Like that's why I stopped. But then I started again for season three, and I was like, oh, this is like getting good. So I don't know. Um and then meanwhile, the PI is looking at photos of Georgia he took, and she he sees her carrying the flower that she killed her past last husband with, and he googles it and he sees it's poisonous. Well, Spain. Mm-hmm. And we flash back to Georgia, making this old guy a drink. Hang on, so he finds out that it causes heart failure, and then he makes a call to somebody called Amberlynn. Mm-hmm. That's like the guy's ex-wife, right? Oh, okay. Yeah, that hired him. I I think. Like, how is Georgia gonna get out of this one? Did they cremate the ex-husband? If they cremated him, that's really good. Can you test ashes? Probably not. I don't think anything survives the ashes. Okay. And we flashback to Georgia, who's making this guy that's forcing her to watch Lord of the Rings a drink. I I wrote down old guy, but he's literally like my age. Or like about my age. And she puts a bunch of pills in his drink, and he overdoses, and then we see her like pick up the phone to like maybe call 911 or something, but then she puts it back down. This was the turning point for her. Mm-hmm. But like she can't be able to do that. This is the point of she killed him. This is the point of no return. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I know, but she could have come up with some excuse, whatever. He did it. I don't know. Yeah. She just didn't want to watch those movies anymore. I know, it's torture. Yeah. And back in present day, Paul tells Georgia not to come to the fundraiser because of that whole gun thing that Nora's mom said on TV about her. And he's like, his stance is pro-gun control, and it reflects badly on him. So we see like he's gonna choose his career over her. His career is like the most important thing. And then Zion apparently overheard everything. He heard their little fight. And he's like And he goes, We're not in the South anymore anymore. Yeah. And they end up making out Zion and Georgia. Well, so Georgia, before they do, she's like, Oh, I can't be a Wellsbury mom. I don't belong here. Remember, there's all this theme about where do you belong? And Zion goes, I've seen you jump a dirt bike over an alligator. You can do anything. And I don't know if that like just a little vote of support or expression of support was enough to get her. There hasn't been enough tension to lead up to this. There just hasn't been. There hasn't. They just suddenly she they turn towards each other and start kissing. And then the next scene is Ginny walking in and Georgia is asleep and Zion is in bed cuddling her. I honestly, I didn't know they were gonna sleep together. Like at the beginning of this episode? No, it should have been very obvious with what like Ginny was saying. It should have been obvious, but they got me. You know what this I was I've been trying to rationalize, if you will. Um if this kind of made sense in their arcs kind of thing. And the only thing I could come up with is that like no matter how educated Zion might be, he's still a guy that's traveling around the world. I I know he has a book deal now, but he's nomadic, he doesn't like to put down roots. Um and Georgia, we know Georgia has her thing, but they ultimately still make really bad decisions. So hooking up like this, even after their daughter has begged them not to, like they're just irresponsible and they make bad decisions still. But also they're like young. Like Georgia's my age. Yes, and you you make bad decisions. Not you, but one makes bad decisions. Well, especially them, because this is what got them in this mess in the first place. Not to call Ginny's life a mess, but here they are. And Ginny like runs into her bedroom and closes the door, and she basically like tells like her dad, and she's like, Yeah, no, I can wait till you finish plowing mom. Go finish plowing mom. I can wait. And then he does leave, and I'm like, there's no I don't think Zion would have actually left her alone. Wow. Or maybe he just doesn't know what to say. I don't know. I don't know. And obviously, I knew we all know she's about to burn herself at this point. So she takes the lighter out and she pulls her pants down, but then we see Marcus has been watching after because he's climbed in her window and he's like, What are you doing? Mm-hmm. And then he says, I think I love you, and he's like very sincere. But she's obviously going through this, and she like lashes out and she says he's a joke and he's incapable of anything real and for him to get out, and he really starts crying. Oh no. I the I wrote down, I can't believe I was so into you. You're always lurking outside my window like a loser. You're a joke. And then she stares at him and says, Are you slow? Get out, don't come back. It's quite brutal. Yeah. Yeah. I just I don't know. Like, why wouldn't Isn't that like the dream to like turn like a bad boy like this into like you know, like turn it turn him around? But I don't I have only heard that from your POV. Like, what does he do that actually makes him a bad boy? I don't know. He smokes a little pot, which is totally understandable. He rides a motorcycle, he didn't want to like commit to Padma and stuff like that. I just feel like she's not a bad boy. I don't know if she's being like dumb enough with boys. She just seems a bit too level-headed. Who, Ginny? Yeah, at such an age. I don't know. I just feel like I'd be different if this guy, if I was like his age and he climbed through my window. You'd be like totally into him. Like I wouldn't like have the Yeah, I wouldn't, yeah. I would kind of just like fall for all of this. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I don't quite know what you're struggling with. Yeah, neither do I. Let's keep going. I kind of saw this as just um because for whatever reason, Marcus is someone she can be her authentic self with, right? Because they've shared a couple of moments that just were authentic in this moment when she's at most pain. Like it's a really painful moment for her. She just feels she can take it out on him? Yeah. Like he's in her circle of trust. You know how you always treat those people in your circle of trust the worst. Right? So she just dumps all her shit on this, right? So all of that. You're a loser, you're a joke, are you slow? Like this is how we feel about ourselves in our worst moments, and so she's just like projecting that out onto him. That's smart. And so I don't know. I felt like the episode had a lot kind of of these moments, but it was emotionally just not cohesive somehow. I don't know what. So then it leads to the final scene. And we see Marcus is really sad, and he drives away on his motorcycle, and it ends with Jenny's voiceover saying, Of course I hurt myself. When you don't have a voice, you have to scream somehow. And then we hear Marcus's motorcycle crash. Screeching tires, breaking glass. Yeah. So I I feel like Yeah, you your voiceover notes. I wrote down pain. It can be overpowering. Growing up, I felt invalidated, voiceless, lost. I don't matter. I never did. Of course I hurt myself. But we haven't seen this. I think this is the first time, perhaps. Like she didn't feel validated because both of her parents ignored her her request for them just to focus on her and not on their like shitty relationship. Um we haven't really seen how Ginny has grown up. Oh, like being invalidated? Like we haven't really seen, yeah, we haven't really seen her prior to her life in Wellsbury. Yeah. Right, growing up, I felt invalidated, voiceless, lost. I don't matter, I never did. I don't know. Right, because all I see is Georgia doing everything to stay with her, provide a life for her, be very loving. Not very loving, but just like, you know, doing everything to have a life with this her child. Yeah. So if it is just an angsty teenager, then that's I think so. Okay, I'm gonna go get my bing su. Okay. Enjoy. Love ya, honey. Bye. Okay, love you, bye.