#7 Building the Legacy Circle with Dixon

In this episode of the GDC Project Podcast, I sit down with Dixon to talk about the vision behind the Legacy Circle — a community designed to help families navigate the addiction journey with strength, education, and support.Addiction doesn’t just affect the individual. It affects the entire family system. Too often, families are left feeling confused, overwhelmed, and unsure of how to respond. The Legacy Circle was created to change that.Through education, shared experience, and guided conversations, we’ll be walking families through the addiction and recovery process one month at a time — helping them understand what their loved one may be experiencing and how they can show up in a healthier and more supportive way.We also dive into the internal struggles we all face, including our relationship with food, discipline, and the powerful role our thought patterns play in shaping our behavior. Whether it’s addiction, overeating, or any other destructive habit, the battle often begins in the mind.Recovery and personal growth start when we begin to recognize our patterns, challenge our thoughts, and take ownership of our actions.Our mission with the Legacy Circle is simple:To give families the tools, education, and community they need so they no longer have to walk through addiction alone.If you or someone you love is navigating addiction, this conversation will give you a deeper understanding of what’s happening — and how real change begins.Learn more about the Legacy Circle:

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome back to the GDC Project Podcast. I'm Timothy McGrath. I'm here with my co-host today, Steven Dixon. You probably want to pull that mic and just a yeah, it's real far away. Today we want to talk about the Legacy Circle, the Gabriel Swings Legacy Circle, the GDC Project Legacy Circle. It's a new initiative that we're starting as a coaching group with structure. Our goal is to help as many families as possible and provide as much education as possible and community as possible so that families don't need to suffer like my family did and Steven's family did through the loss of addiction. So the Legacy Circle is going to have a monthly topic with a monthly meeting, information that is timed and targeted so that we gain a knowledge base where we could help our loved ones. The Legacy Circle, we're supposed to start this month, but we wanted to kind of take a step back, dial it in, and make it a better product so that we could give a better experience and better help to each and every one of you, all of your families, it's for it to be shareable and growable with Facebook groups, some videos you get when you join, so you know what's going on, and a simple, easy platform that is more engaging and more knowledgeable for each and every one of you to obtain.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Well said. Do you want to share a little bit more about the different levels we have available too?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

So the Legacy Girl has really two levels. The entry level is getting the entry level stuff. It's that one call. The call will have a topic and then it's going to have a QA. So the QA can be based off that topic, based off things you're going through with a loved one or yourself. And that's going to be the basic premise of that. So for the entry level, you're going to get the emails, the topics, the data, and that one call with a QA every month, which is entry level price, $25 a month. We're starting it super low because that's basically what it costs to run the program with the software and the video editing and the tools we need to run the program. That's basically what it's going to cost. And then we have our Platinum or Advanced program. I don't think we've dialed in a name yet, but Platinum or Advanced, Advanced, which is a higher level program which is going to include private, also coaching with two half hour sessions a month and targets directly on what you're going through. As you would have a conversation with us over what you're going through, setting boundaries, helping you find maybe a rehab for a loved one or anything that you're kind of going through. It'll be more of a private, nuanced approach to help the family help their loved one through addiction. And that comes in at about 200 bucks a month for that version of the legacy circle. So that's going to be our private circle, um, close-knit community to help families grow.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

And I wonder, and sorry to kind of spring this on you, but now that I'm thinking about and hearing you kind of share more about it, I wonder if we kind of open up the floor to, you know, when someone signs up that they can suggest something that they're going through that we can talk about. And I don't know if that's whether it's we tie that into the basic group or the advanced group, but you know, something that's more specific to the like to the client or the family. Um, you know, it's like, how can I like what do I do when I see them doing XYZ? Or what's the most appropriate way to tackle XYZ? You know what I mean? I don't I don't it's just a no, I I I get that.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

And what I think what tends to happen when you're coaching is when someone's going through something, that means everybody's going through something. So it's it's maybe you're shedding light on something that we need to discuss, like a topic that needs to be brought up. Hey, I'm going through this. Well, guaranteed you're not alone going through that. It's a guarantee. Maybe you're the first to share it and to voice your opinion and voice your feelings, but you're not the only one that's going through that or that has gone through that. So that transparency and vulnerability, I believe, brings out a needed discussion topic.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Right? So it's like we're helping you through coaching and mentorship. You're helping us through information and learning. And the only way we could grow as a project, and the only way I think our families could grow, is that communication. And I think is the main premise of the legacy group. It's like, okay, we're all going through this. How can we come together and help each other?

unknown 4:45

Right?

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Agreed. Yeah. So that's why we have the two different levels. One basic entry level, um, you're in the group, private group, private community. Um, and then the next level is okay, I need some extra attention. I want some personal time, some extra attention, and that's where we get into the next levels. So pretty basic two-level system.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

I like it. Any other thoughts on the uh I'm kind of thinking about and you know, we we think about how this might kind of dovetail into what we were kind of talking about earlier about, you know, something that everyone's going through. Like, um I think I can name it in the top of my head, obviously I would not um name them, but I can think of three people that are including myself that are struggling with a different kind of off-top, you know, off-brand, off-topic um situation. But um, it's just funny because like I brought it up and I was comfortable by the fact that someone else was going through you know the same situation with like eating and food and exercise that I had been going through, and um then I talked and find out that other people are going through the same thing. And yeah, I know you're working with some folks that um have some you know pretty uh strong and aggressive goals, and I think it just um it's it's always I think we're always kind of brought back to the fact that um again, we're not we think that like we're the only people that are going through something. It's not the case. And it's nice sometimes to kind of be reminded like we're all human, we're all going through stuff. Again, I think it's just it's it's comforting sometimes to know that like I always I always remember this phrase from uh a couple years back. Like, it's it's okay to not be okay. Like we're all going through stuff, we're all struggling with something, like whether it's money or you know, um future goals, uh you know, no matter how serious or unserious, like we're all no one's there's no like finish point to all this stuff. Like we're always consecutively and constantly growing, constantly going through stuff. So um, and it's okay to be knocked off your path. But I think again, what's important is just how you get back on track, how you fix it, how you you just try. Um, yeah, I don't know. Um that's just that's that's kind of really been top of mind for myself the past couple months is like you know, I divulged into a bad habit of you know retreating and eating, like, you know, not necessarily taking the most healthy approaches to stress and anxiety, and um, you know, they're better than alternatives, however, but sometimes they're not like you know, being out of shape and unhealthy is not necessarily always you know super good. So I don't know. Those are just things that are kind of been on my mind.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Why do you think this is not just like the fitness and weight loss? But why do you think when people are struggling, they they revert to like themselves? Like in like retreat? Yeah, like like you you talk about retreating. I I know I do it too. It's like when I'm struggling, whether it's mentally, emotionally, it's like I I just want to be left alone. Um, I don't want to tell anybody, like it's secretive, like you're struggling, you don't want, you don't want anyone to know. Um, and then like that's why kind of food or or drugs comes in because you kind of like hide and go alone and into your own space, into your mind, and and kind of like retreat out of society um while you're going through it. What why do you think that is?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

I think it's a combination of a guilt and shame approach. Um, you know, when we feel shame, there's so many, and I get goose ones kind of talking about it because even to this day, like you know, I'm shameful of like being so in shape and then like being out of shape. And it's like I want to obviously like not it's just it's easy, it's also easier, you know what I mean? Like when we get in that scared, frantic state, I think we want to choose what's just easiest, and I think it's easiest just to retreat, it's easiest to hide, it's easiest to just keep the world at bay, you know what I mean. I'm gonna ask you why do you think it's easier? Because the hard things like showing up, like being accountable, like trying sometimes feel so daunting, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Yeah, the the um retreating and hiding hiding things a weird thing for me because even if we think about this group, it's like you need to be vulnerable and like kind of say what you're going through, right? We're talking the legacy circle. Hey, I have a loved one that's going through this. And I know with like I talked with my mom. This my mom's always been kind of vocal about it, and I think she's helped a lot of people, um, just by having a conversation, not really knowing what to do, but hey, like me too, like I'm going through this shit. As where, like, when you think about yourself, you don't want to like you don't want to tell people I'm really fucking struggling right now. Like, there's not many people that you could go to to say that. Um, but isn't it comforting when they do though? What? Like when that person does say that. Because you talk about your mom a lot too. I don't think it's comforting, like if someone says it to me, I don't think it's comforting for me. It might be comforting for that individual. And I also think it's who you say it to. Who do you have the the trust? Um, do you have someone that you could go say, hey, like I am I'm really struggling right now? Like I have, for me, I have a person I go to, and it's not like it's my this kid I know, Tony, who I grew up with, who I talked about the accountability thing. Um, I texted him like, I don't know, a month ago. I was like, bro, I'm struggling right now. Like, this is what I'm going through. This is what I'm struggling with. Um, the next day he showed up with a book. He goes, Here, this book's for you. He lives 45, 50 minutes away. He drove all the way down, said, Here, read this book.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Those those are gems.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Yeah. And gem kind of people. No, no, no questions asked. And the next, like, every other day for the next two weeks, he shot me a message. How are things going? Did you read, did you get to that book yet? What do you think about this? What do you think about that? What are you going to do about this? Um, and then through that conversation, he's like, hey, I've been struggling too. And it's like this, it's kind of like we we're we both know where we want to go and we're both there for each other. And no nothing really needs to be said other than like, hey, I'm here for you. Let's do this. I got you.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Let's keep each other afloat. I think a lot about my family too, is obviously like throughout my own journey, throughout my family's journey, we've obviously gotten to a place where like we're very and I I think I disclose a lot of stuff to you as well. Like, I always tell you, like, you know, hey, I'm having like a bad week, and um, you know, trying to get back on track. And um, I'll say the same thing to my parents. So I'm like, hey, like, shit is fucked up right now. And they're like, what do you want to do about it? And my dad has this, like, and so is my mom, like, they have this keen ability to just like suggest or say or provide like the the one thing that like you didn't think you needed, like your buddy like brought that book. Yeah, like my dad'll just like send something that like shows up at my door, he's like, This is what you needed to do. I'm like, fuck, yeah, you're right. But they like again, like once you break down those barriers and you stop trying to like you know run and hide, you just you know, and this is just with daily stuff, like you know things have just you know gotten out of hand, and just like I'm having a bad week, like it's okay. Like, and I think it's also like you gotta give yourself some grace too. Don't be so hard on yourself. Like, we're human, we're all I I I heard this phrase the other day and it blew me away. This is everybody's first time on earth, and it really struck me. Um no one was brought into this world with a manual, a to-do, but like a uh uh uh how-to manual. We're all here figuring this shit out. It's okay to not be okay. Yeah, you know, we're gonna have ups and downs, like there's no you haven't made it past a certain point where like you're just gonna fucking coast through life.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Like and it's it's maybe sometimes daunting to think about that too, but like See, I like I hate pushing back on this, but I don't like the phrase it's so it's okay not being okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

I think we're maybe maybe we're thinking about it in different ways.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah, like I would say it's it's normal to not be okay, but I don't think it's I don't think it's an acceptable place to to stay.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

I think no, and I'm I'm not saying that it is. I think it's just more of like don't beat yourself up or punish yourself because you're having a bad day. Yeah, it's okay, like I guess it's that feeling of like when I think of like oh why am I having a bad day? Is there something wrong with me? Am I broken? No, I'm human. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

Not that like I'm okay to sue in that for a fucking month. No, that's bullshit. But it's okay to sit back, take a moment, and recognize I'm not okay right now. Like, I need to take a step back and refocus. That's all I'm saying, I think. Not like that to justify it, which might come off as that.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Yeah, because we talked like before about language and using the F bombs, but like language, okay, it may not be important swearing, but how you speak is very important. So for me, it's like it's okay to not be okay. That means like I'm accepting that I'm not okay. But in reality, I want to do the work to be better.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

I think we're thinking of it in different in different ways.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Like, like it's almost like you have to finish that and then what? So like it's okay to not be okay and then like as long as you do something about it, yeah. And then you cannot sit there and whine for a fucking month, a month, a year, two years, five years. It's like, okay, I'm I'm not okay. Because that's just enabling yourself. Uh-huh. Exactly. So that's that's the point I'm getting. It's like, it's yes, it's okay not to be okay, but and then what? One of my favorite quotes is like, um, the magic, I know my skin, the magic you're looking for is in the work you're attempting to avoid. So it's like all the magic we want is in the work that we don't want to do. Or fear starts the immediate moment that you actually put action in place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

So it's like fear stops or fear is stopped by action.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

Yeah. It's like uh people looking for Ozempic to lose weight, right? The magic pill. There is no I mean Ozempic will help. So it's it's weird to for me to think like um as I get older, how like things change. I was completely against supplements, like any external supplements, um whatever, three years ago. Then I I heard another quote or another person talking was like, why wouldn't you use a tool that will help you go faster? So if you think about like AI, it's a tool that helps you go so much faster, get shit done so much faster. Ozempic, a tool that'll help you lose the weight so much faster. So it's like, why not use the tool to help you get there faster? Or you could think about it in like rehab. Rehab's a tool to help you get sober faster. So why not use the tool or detox is the tool to help you get sober faster? Why not use the tool and then make a bigger goal?

SPEAKER_02 16:23

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

So, like we talked about losing 25 pounds. Okay, why not use the tool to lose the 25 pounds and then make the goal, whatever, 10% body fat? So you get there faster and then you could increase the goal. So it's almost pairing the magic you're looking for is in the work you're attempting to avoid with the best tools possible. It's like, what are the tools that I could use? Um transitioning into that is like I asked you to, me and Tony were like, okay, we're gonna hold yourself accountable. I opened that up to you, and you seemed hesitant. I'm gonna ask you why did you seem hesitant to join in that in on that? So let me think about it.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

I think that's a pure reaction of I just I remember, and my approach is not necessarily the best, but I think I over like I was asking you like about the cardio thing. I think I this is just a pure reaction of like I beat myself up and probably did the wrong things. Like I don't need to spend five hours of cardio to do these things. I think that was just more like a I need to tweak my own approach type of thing. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

You're very like detail-oriented, very type A, very all in or all out. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Like I can't do this fifth, like yeah, I have to be either dialed in or it's just I know my like I've gotten this point in life, I I know how I work.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Yeah. So if that's the case, what do you think the best approach would be for you? Probably a balanced approach, but no no no.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

We're skipping that? Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Not a bad cause like I'm type A, detail oriented, all in or all out. All in or all out. You like structure. So knowing those things about you, do you think trying balance would no it's not gonna work? So it's like that's why I like the the minimal effective dose. You go on and using the tool, Chat GPT, I got 30 minutes a day, my goal is to lose 25 pounds, I got whatever, three days a week. That's structure, right? And then it'll give it to you in 10 seconds, and then you just have to follow that structure. What I think you're gonna have an issue is you want that to be seven days a week, not three days a week. So I always like to think minimal effective dose. What's gonna be the minimal effective dose that I could do daily and then repeat that? And I think we talked about that before, but I'm also like our personalities are different, whereas like I just like to stick my toe in the minimal effective dose. Um, with everything I do, I just stick my toe in other than my priority. I focus all my on that, and everything else just gets a little bit of toe, and I'm scared to commit. Um and I mean I could dial back in why, but I think it's much easier for me to do the minimum effective dose than fully commit to things. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

And I and I've I've always tried to come back to this, and I'm like, dude, you know yourself, you know you're not gonna do it. Like stop bullshit. I mean, listen, there are some things, and I know we we we we we preach and practice uh a mentality of you know being flexible mean and being open to change. There are also just some things that like I know about myself that like aren't gonna change. Like we know we we we know how we each approach things, and um I also there are parts, I mean, like I love that approach too, because like I know that I'm commit like I have not yet said to date that like I'm gonna try to diet or I'm gonna try to exercise because I know I need to keep myself accountable. So like but once I say I'm gonna fucking do something, I'm gonna do something.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Go back to that language. What is try? Attempt. Try is a soft talk word. Soft talk words are words that give you an out.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

So when I'm gonna try something, I already have an assistant.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

It doesn't go my way, I'm gonna dip.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

I'm gonna dip. So that's like that's where like language is so important. It's like I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna I'll try to call you later. Bullshit. I'll call you later. I'm gonna call you later. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Do this later. I'm gonna see if I can get to it.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

No, exactly. So you're giving it an open-ended question. So that's where like we're talking about like language. That's like we don't realize that we're doing that, but it's giving us an out.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Um, we know we're doing it. No, yeah, but subconsciously. Yeah, but it's like the minute the words leave our mouth.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Uh-huh. You know, so it's uh it's called like a soft talk word, so it's not I'm I'm not fully committed.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Um so so back to that like original question is like why why do you think you didn't want to do the accountability yet? Because it's because that's like I think the overarching question.

unknown 21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Honestly. I have to sit in that for a minute and uh I think my immediate reaction is like I know which is and this is a bullshit approach, but like I know the road is gonna be hard, but also the other road is not so fucking easy either. Like you gotta there's always that phrase like being poor is hard, being rich is hard, choose your. Hard being fat is hard, being skinny is hard. Choose your hard.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

So what are the what do you think the main thing you're struggling with right now is in this moment? Maybe it's satisfaction or being at ease.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

I think I feel very sometimes like uncomfortable, so like I'll react and like then I'll just like randomly go for like a two-mile run or two-hour run. I'm like, I don't need to do that. Like maybe I'm still just kind of retraining myself to I don't know. What what makes you uncomfortable?

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Haven't gotten there yet. No? Because once once you get there, then you have a plan of attack. It's like if you don't know what you're trying to attack, if we don't have something that we can measure, we don't have something that we could complete. So I like if we have a measurable goal, like whether the smart goals is uh specific, measurable, attainable, relative, and time-bound. Measurable. Measurable. So specific. Like I want to lose 20 pounds. That's even more specific. Like we put in our accounting accountability group. Tony, I'm throwing you under the bus. 26 pounds by May 15th. He was May 30th. I said 10% body fat by May 15th, so he bumped his day up. So we're specific. Measurable. Okay. He knows how much he weighs right now. I know what my percent body fat is right now. Relative. Our goal is both to get healthier and leaner. Okay. Um specific, measurable, attainable. Achievable. Achievable, attainable, same thing. Relevant, time bound. Yeah. Relevant, relative. Um measurable. It just depends who's writing it down. They all mean the same thing, though. Um so specific, measurable, attainable. Like 20 pounds by May 15th. It's like two months. That's hard, but it's attainable. Um time bound, we set the specific date. Yep. So that's like a smart goal. But there's even like a bigger goal, is the book he actually gave me is um, I don't even remember the name of the book. I should uh go get it. But it's like one. I think the name of it is like one. It's like, what's your main objective? And he breaks it down as like, what's your priority? In society, we've changed priority into priorities, which completely defeats the purpose. Like, what's your priority? Lose a weight. No, no. In in like, what's priority mean?

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Like, oh, what's your what's your main focus?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah. Okay, now what's priorities?

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Your other main focuses.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

You can't have a main, you can't have main multiple main focuses. It's like the exact opposite of what it is. So it like brings down, okay, what's your priority and focus on that? Right? So figuring out, okay, what's the thing causing me most stress, now that becomes my priority. And I'm not saying all of your focus, but a good portion of your energy should be directed at that. Like for me, it's like talking about being unhappy. I was unhappy with my weight, the way I look, the way I feel, the way I was eating was damaging my skin. You see, I'm itching here. So it's like, okay, my priority is figure out my fucking skin and lose, lose the weight that I've put on the past whatever, two years, the 10, 15 pounds I put on. Those two things are my my priority. Get healthy, fix my shit. I'm giving myself till May 15th, full focus. Tony said the same thing. I put on 20 pounds. My my priority is this over this time period. Um, so we can kind of combine those two two philosophies is prioritize the one thing, not all the things, and then specific, uh, measurable, smart SM. Specific, measurable, attainable, relative, and time-bound. Combine, kind of, kind of combine those two together. And our accountability was just Monday weigh-ins, you're struggling, reach out. That was really all we set it up as. Um, I don't know where I was going with that, but I was just kind of explaining the uh the book a little bit and figuring out what a priority is. So if you think about in the sober world, what would your priority be? Probably not do whatever I was doing.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Yeah. Find surprise. Which sometimes is yeah. Again, I I I I always we were talking about that um the brain chemical change the other day, and like Googled it again, just it was re and like it's literally like someone going into like you ever seen those old um those old switchboards where you direct a call, you like take out a plug. Yeah, it's like taking all the fucking plugs and just rearranging them, and I'm like, holy shit, like that's just it's so we always you know at shadowproof and like we always talked about how you know it's a it's a brain disease and it's um it's just the scientific data is just is there and we we know that, but when you actually like sit down and read it, it just it's it's fascinating. And even for us who have been doing this kind of like work for for years, it's just and then we s and then and we that kind of makes it make sense in a little in a little way because you see someone do something, you're like, what the fuck? Why are you doing this? Makes no sense because it doesn't make any sense, it's not supposed to, like it's literally it's like their wiring is just fuck hard.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Yeah. You ever hear of this uh I think it's recognized now as an eating disorder, B E D? Binge eating disorder. No?

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Sounds like me on a Sunday night though. I I I believe I thoroughly have that. Um because right now, like I haven't eaten in uh yesterday, worked out, went home, ate I had a salad with some steak, and I haven't eaten in 24 hours. So like I'm ready to eat anything right now.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

And why haven't you eaten in 24 hours?

SPEAKER_01 28:04

No reason, just happened.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Just happened? So no intention behind it?

SPEAKER_01 28:09

No, we um, you know, my girlfriend wanted to get something not so healthy for dinner, so I lightly indulge in it. I didn't go full on, but I just didn't want to like feel gross when I wake up and like it throws off my sleep, and I like I want to sleep more, and so I shouldn't want to throw the entire train off the bus or train off the racks, trails, whatever. Yeah, rails. Um but like I know I need to go home and like just go get some fucking protein. Like what's nice is like we did all that stuff so like so many years ago where we re like I relearned the structure. It was it was basically um that renaissance periodization diet, but like it really taught me a lot about macros, and Joe was doing that macro thing with the gym and you were doing the macro thing, and just like I now know like the quality and quantity I need to put in, which is completely reshed. Like, I wish I knew that stuff 10 years ago because if I knew to just pack myself with protein and no carbs, it like I could just cut.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

How many grams of protein do you have in?

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Probably not even close. I mean, I know I need what at least 215. Yeah, I'm probably not even getting 100. But it's a I mean, we also know that like when you're fully dialed in and you're like you're eating 200 grams of protein a day, that's a lot of protein. But what happens when you eat 200 grams of protein? You're less snacky, you're less pick like peckish.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

It's this thing called the protein leveraging hypothesis.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

What's that?

SPEAKER_00 29:47

They but the the hypothesis states that you will continue to be hungry until your body's met its protein needs.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

I 100% believe that.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

So if your body needs 250 grams of protein, you're going to be hungry until you've met that.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Yeah. So And sometimes it feels like you're really stuffing your face. But I mean, you're stuffing your body with good stuff, not you're re- and you're re structuring and recalculating your cells to purge the shit that it's holding on to.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Well, our body's built off protein, it's not built off carbs and fat. No. So protein is like the the structure of all of our cells.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

And we can't have both carbs and fat. We only have one.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Um you can a little bit of both. Yeah, you can.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

They have to be a flux, I think, of each other.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Yeah. I mean, it depends. Like, there's so many, like, that's why nutrition is so hard. There's so many variables. Um, but once you find out what works for you, yeah, hold on to that. Yeah, and the thing is you just have to do it. Foods too addicting, like we were talking about before. Foods addicted. Gas station heroin, right next to the Snickers. Snickers is gas station heroin, too. Not for me because I'm allergic to nuts. So Twix. Yeah, Twix too. It wouldn't be Twix for me. Like um, talking about my binge eating disorder. I've been really strict on my diet. Do you want to know what I did the other night?

SPEAKER_02 31:08

What?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

I went to the supermarket and got a whole big Briars thing of ice cream. Destroyed it. The whole thing. How'd you feel after that? I came home and had some popcorn and chips.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Open the floodgates. Open the floodgates. So, what do you think your personal approach? And again, I I don't think there's a one size fits all model here, but I'm just curious what do you think your approach should be?

SPEAKER_00 31:29

My approach that always works for me is avoid sugar.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Okay. Sugar is a drug.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

Yeah, but my sugar includes rice, pasta, potatoes, um carbs. Pretty much vegetables don't bother me. Like vegetables won't trigger it. Uh, honey doesn't trigger it.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Um about fruits?

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Fruits. Fruits normally don't trigger it. So it's uh depends what it is. But if I get into like uh like rice pizza, um pizza, uh pasta, anything like that, it like it like triggers me to nonstop um eating. Like I talked to my mom last podcast. We were talking about uh Chandler from Friends, um, Matthew Perry. I didn't remember his name last time, but I had to Google it after the episode was over. But he uh was interviewing this British journalist, or the journalist was interviewing him, and there was this guy who said uh addiction is a willpower disease, and Chandler was fighting him. And not fighting, but they were having a little argument, and and like I keep calling him Chandler, but Matthew Perry was like, he's like, okay, you're right. I have choice over my first drink. Then after that, I lose all power. And that's why I asked about binge eating disorder, because I I know I definitely have it. I'm not diagnosed, but I know I definitely have that. Like I know I definitely have ADHD. Like I don't need diagnosis. I know what the I know I have it. That like I have choice over that first bite.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

But after that, after that, you're not even yourself, you're just like a fucking you've been taken over.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Been taken over, even like cookies at the bakery. Alien bodies I have one cookie, that's it, I need to leave. I I need to leave. And and sometimes I'll leave and I'll fill my pockets before I leave. So as I'm eating the cookies, I'm far enough away where I won't turn around and come back.

unknown 33:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Hey, as long as you figure that out about yourself, like I don't I think a lot of people have not gotten that far where they know themselves that well.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Yeah. So that that's my trigger for me for me. Um, what do you think triggers you?

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Same stuff.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

Sugar?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

Oh, yeah. I was talking about the other night. Like I was just I probably should have had some protein. I was thinking about the stupid fucking TikTok video. It's like add some protein and we'll have another scoop of protein that just dude fucking just um how I'm just thinking about this thought process of like this one little this is the same thing. Oh, it's always rumbling. Um ended up buying that sleeve of mini Twix. It just turned into two sleeves. And I'm like, fuck. I slept late, didn't wake up early, didn't work out in the morning, and just everything's fucking thrown off. So probably the same stuff.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Yeah, good thing for me is I still wake up and work out. Yeah, and I just punish uh punish myself more mentally and emotionally than than physically.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Oh, I still do, I just you're doing it in a different way.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Yeah. Got anything, any I'm hungry now. You're hungry now, thinking about food? Popcorn and maybe rotisserie chicken. Let's go back into the the weight loss real quick. Um or health or job. What do you think is is your goal for the we'll say next six months?

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Realistically, it's gonna be an 80-20 approach. Like looking back on the last year and so, like, let's just try to change the the the the foundation here, you know? Like it's not gonna be an all-in, all in, all out approach. Like it's gonna be let's just make a general fucking effort, you know? That's good, and that's just being real.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

There was uh, I don't even remember who who this was, but it was what would be your ideal day? Your ideal day. Like your like if you could create a perfect day, what would that be for you? You don't know? Write it down. You got your book, write it down right there.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

I I I don't I don't know where I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

What time would you wake up? It's your day what about you? Me? I'd wake up at 5 45, have a coffee, get a workout in, read. Maybe even a little earlier. I probably would wake up a little earlier. And then I'd take my kids to school. Um I mean that's how it would start. Um I do pretty much that now, except I don't drive my daughter to school. My uh my sister does, and then I'd probably get into some work. I'd probably do something like this. Um I wouldn't edit the videos because that's not causes me stress. Um I would even have someone come over here and and shut the cameras off and shut the thing off, and anything that causes me stress, I would eliminate and only do the things that I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Fair.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

And a lot of it would be talking to people. Um and I think a lot of it with alone time. I I think I'd spend more time with my animals down in the back and my dogs.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

I like alone time too. Yeah. I like a nice solo drive. Yeah. It's always always very calming.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

When someone's not like always talking about.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

But it was a good exercise for me to do, and he had you write it down every every if you could design your perfect day, design it. Write it down, follow it. And what? Try to do it every month, try and do it every day. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

None of us would work, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Yeah, well, you would. You would need something to do. Like that. That's where I don't understand. Like, people talk about like right now, universal basic income. You know, everyone's just gonna get money, there's gonna be no jobs because AI, you don't know any of this stuff?

SPEAKER_01 37:27

No, I live off, I live under a rock.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

So I don't even want to know within the within the future, there's going to be no jobs because of artificial intelligence. Great. So the proposed plan is universal basic income. So that means just everybody gets money, nobody's gonna have jobs. Stupid. Okay. What is your purpose in life if you don't have a job? And that's gonna be the biggest struggle for people. So we could even go back to addiction here. What do you think the addiction crisis is gonna look like if nobody has a purpose? Nobody has a job.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

It's gonna fucking skyrocket.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

I believe so.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Like COVID skyrocketed drank, drank and used drugs drugs all day because you got nothing else to do. Yep, which is sad. Like you have this gift, you have a gift that like what did we do during COVID? We fought we figured out triathlon.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Triathlon, we went mountain biking, bike groups, yeah, bike groups, workout groups. We figured out a way to work out some of the best shape I was in my life, but same, but um that's like that pisses me off. But if you think about your ideal perfect day, you would have some work in there.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Yeah, because there's there's beauty in the chaos, there's beauty in the work, there's you know, beauty in the hard thing.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

Yeah, I mean, even like me now, I don't technically have to work. Like I like this, I do because I enjoy it. It's not like I get anything in return.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

If I retired, like if I had enough money to retire right now, I'd have to work to like a certain point in my life.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

Yeah, you have to find something that you want to do, purpose, find purpose, but it is like enjoy it, you know, design your ideal perfect day. And I I for me, I like that exercise because that'll kind of dial you into what direction you want to go in. Um yeah, so I guess I mean we could finish up there. I don't even know how long we've been going. I haven't been wearing my watch because uh I switched from my garment to the whoop. So just to see what that track differently. So yeah, guys, thanks for watching or listening. Um Legacy Circle starting up April. Um if you'd like to be a member, click the link down below. Go on the website, thegcproject.com or Gabriel's wings.org, right? Gabriel'swings.org.org. Um, both places you can find us. Social media, the GDC Project, Facebook, the GDC Project, TikTok. I only think I posted on there once, GDC Project.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

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SPEAKER_00 39:57

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