Ep13| Talk N SUPES

In this ep Ande and Ed get into there thoughts on The newest episode of daredevil born again as-well as what’s up with the mandolorian movie?  sharing there hype for The first ep of The new darth maul series starting and what fans new and old should expect from it and so much more!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Talking Soups. I'm Ed from Ways of the Sith, and with me today is my co-host. And what's going on? We got it. We nailed it. He waited too. He was he was waiting. If you if you can't watch the video, you'll see it on the video. Andy was like perfectly trying to time it.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Um, I needed to wait for every sentence to come out. But you know what? Even if I fuck up, I feel like we did it better that way because it's a running gag now at this point.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

It's part of the show. Uh so welcome back everybody to another episode. Thank you so much to those of you that have been tuning in. If you can, please make sure to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube videos. Um, leave a comment, we'll always get back to you. It it helps with the algorithm, allows more people to see it. Same thing on Apple uh and Spotify. If you're listening to the podcast version, please make sure to leave us a review because it does help more people to see it. Um before we start this episode, I just want to say we lost a good member of this community and somebody who was a listener of this podcast. Uh my friend Brian from Brian's Action Figure Reviews. Uh, he was a longtime YouTuber. He did a show weekly called The Culture Cast that brought a lot of people together from all over the world and um really united us. We had a group chat that we were all part of and pretty much talked uh every day for like the past seven, eight years, something like that. So um it's really cool to see like what you can do with the community. But um, it's an unfortunate thing that we lost such a great dude and uh our thoughts and condolences are with his family and his friends. Um I just wanted to say that before we started. But we do have a lot to talk about this week. Uh Daredevil season two. We got some more episodes. So what are you thinking?

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Um, so this episode this well, we have well we got the first two s two new episodes of Daredevil's two and three. Um I'm I'm loving I'm loving everything still so far. Um one of the things that I absolutely love about this, and they even showed it in the last in the last episode, is like I just love the camera work of when he is getting like honing into his senses where like it zooms in and kind of gives it like this like IMAX look where the whole screen fills up and you can like see everything. That shit is absolute cinema to me when I see when I see that. And I just I I say it every time. I'm like, I just wish the whole show can look like this, just from like a like a cinematic view of it. Like that would be so awesome.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

So I did hear I did hear that that specific thing last year, I guess, when they tried it on the thing, they were doing it in post-production. So basically it was something that was done while they were editing it, they were zooming in. This year they're actually changing the camera lens and zooming in in the actual live shot. So that's why it's got that different feel to it and look to it, um, which I thought was pretty cool to learn. They're also doing the same thing with Bullseye with the blue light like in his background now. It kind of it kind of changes to that like blue rose filter, and then that goes back to the original origin story of him from the original Netflix series of of Daredevil. So I thought that was a cool little touch that they incorporated in. I have heard that um basically once we get past episode three, which we just did, that it's yeah, it's all gas and no breaks from the rest of this.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

I heard uh episode four, yeah. I hope that's at the end of the day. They say episode four is the best one, that's what they're saying. I I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

I heard episode four and episode six or episode seven, like right before we get to the end there. Um I I hope that's the case, that it's all gas, no breaks. Um I can I can do without a little bit of the relationship stuff. Like that kind of took me out of this, these two episodes.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

Well, I liked it, I liked it enough because you know, you get to see how down Karen really is to be with the cause, and you see that she's really like being serious about it because she's learning how to f how to like actually fight and things of that nature.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

And a lot more influenced by Frank Castle than than Matt. You know what I mean? Like, yo, that's great. Like her logic, her logic is is more in line with what Frank does and what Frank thinks, and she thinks more like no, Frank's doing it the right way. Like, yeah, he's taking these guys completely out. You're leaving these guys alive.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

Yeah, that pisses off Daredevil to hear him to hear her even talk about him like that. It's just like his constant just can't fucking get away from Frank.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

Um I like I like the um you know, seeing Vanessa and Kingpin and seeing their relationship. And you you kind of already can foreshadow a little bit where that's gonna go and and how this is gonna go for the season, I think. Um I would not be shocked to see Vanessa end up getting killed by the end of the season, especially because she's the one who's who paid Bullseye to kill Foggy and you know, set up all this stuff in motion. She's kind of still playing both sides when you're when you're watching it. So like I'm I'm interested to see how this is gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

She's haunted by Bullseye and um I forget her name, but uh Daredevil's ex is haunted by Muse. And that whole situation there where it's like, is she trying to become the new Muse? I was like, That's what I was wondering.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Um I I kind of think I have a feeling like because she keeps seeing him and she keeps like uh carrying the mask around and having homages. So like that's where I think this is going. I think we're gonna see her like become muse by the time the end of this season happens. Which I kind of I at first I didn't care. Like, I think episode two, I was like, I was like, why are we doing this? And then by episode three, I was kinda like, you know what? I kind of like her story a little bit, and I I like if that's where they're gonna go, where like because of what happened to her, because of the PTSD, and because of like her her trauma, she's almost relating to her. It's uh it's that disease, like where you get kidnapped and you you relate to your kidnapper, you know what I mean? Like, so it's it's kind of cool to see that transition and like almost very Harley Quinn, you know what I mean? Like to see her take that standpoint. So like I'm cool with if that's the way they go. Um, she's been compelling, and Gandalfini to me is still like I care a lot more about that storyline with him and his girlfriend now that we got the reveal that she's the one behind the Kingpin videos. Yeah, and and it's super him knowing.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we should have known that it was her, but like to actually see that it was her and how she's even I don't know how she's able to do that voice, because that's crazy how she can be so unpointed.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

I'm wondering if it really is the actress. Like, is it really the actress doing the imitation, or do they have like Ross Mark Marquad or somebody off the side like doing a Vincent D'Nafrio impression? You know what I mean? And it's just a voice of it. I'm wondering. Because if if that is like her impression of him, that's that's spot on. Like she she does a fantastic D'Nafrio if that's the case.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

The way the way they are imitating life in that too is crazy. It is like super on point.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Yeah, it's it's a lot of you know the same rhetoric and same things that are that are taking place now in the world today. So it's it's very timely. That's that's one thing that I I said, you know, last week about watching that post uh podcast interview with the director and and Brad Winterbaum. I thought that was so interesting, and I thought that gave us so much insight into like this season of the show and like what they want to do and what they have planned for it. That like I'm I'm I'm hoping. Like I said, that the these first couple episodes have been like a slow ramp up, but but we're I think we're getting to that point of like like that final fight was awesome. I I like the swordsman now. Like it was cool to see him be a badass and like take out, dude, and like fight, you know what I mean? Like we didn't get to see that Paul Guy, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:59

1000%, you're right. And to see him um throw in sticks and medals and to free all those people out was was dope because at first I was like, dang, he's really not gonna get any justice here. So to finally see him get his get back with Daredevil and that fight scene in general, like, oh my god, what what what cinema that shit was. Like when you thought it was over, it just kept ramping up more and more and more. And that that was amazing. Like, I I had to rewatch that episode a a couple of times because it was just that good.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Yeah, I like that ending. That ending for me was like, alright, cool. Um, I didn't one thing I will say that kind of had me question it was like, okay, Karen's car is just outside, and then they just hop in the car and take off, like, and the people don't follow Karen's car. Yeah, but that was a little bit weird. I was like, oh, wait a minute, man.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Like Yeah, that and when Angela showed up and she fucking like she's like, What are you doing here? She's like, Oh no, I'm just want to help you, blah, blah, blah. And then she does she helps them rally up all the people, and then they get everybody in the van, and I'm like, how the fuck does she scratch the tire?

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Like, they were shooting at everybody. So I had a couple logic complaints with this whole entire thing. First, um That scene was weird.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

That scene was crazy. Like, but there's a lot of things that we're doing.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

Hear me out on this. Daredevil gets the information from the girl who basically tells him she felt water dripping, she felt a breeze, she heard some doves, and she felt the door. So, like her describing that to Matt, Matt knew exactly the location based off her description of that, which was wild to me. I was just like, wait a minute, that makes no fucking sense. Like Matt's blonde, okay. But like her telling him, Oh, I felt this and I knew this, and you know, it just was weird to set up, especially because like Matt almost made it seem earlier that he knew where the place was and he didn't know how to get in. Like, oh, there's so much security there, it's top, but then all of a sudden, little white tiger gets in there, no problem. Like, she just walks right in and it's like, Oh, I'm here to help you guys. And it's like, all right, so which one is it? Like, is this place top secret and hard to find and like really enforced, or is this place just like somewhere along the docks and like they can just stumble upon this place? Like, so I did have issues with those things because I those were my my nitpicks where I was just like, This doesn't really make sense. I'm sorry. Like, you could try to make it make sense, but it doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

That was so crazy, dude. Like, I didn't understand that that when we I was talking when we were watching it with with my nerdline crew, and we were all thinking that we were just like, How the fuck does she get over there to scratch the tire when there was like five or four dudes sh sh shooting? And also, like, how did the how did everybody make it into there too? Because you're telling me just the front of that van is what blocked them from getting into the room. It's an armored truck apparently.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Yeah, it's an armored truck, apparently. So like that's I did have issues with some stuff, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Um that that scene was a little weird, but it's whatever. It's comic.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

I like the fact that okay, like as we talked about when we knew we were coming into the season, we saw the wanted poster for her. So we knew she was gonna step into the role as like the new white tiger. Oh yeah. Like, yeah. I guess is Jessica Jones next week, or this week, I should say, right? She's gotta be coming up. Oh my god. Because there's only so many episodes left. Like, do you gotta have her kind of show up now at this point? Because if not, then if she's just like a cameo at the very end, I'm gonna be mad. Like, I know she's looking like she's gonna be a more bigger part of of season three. Um, there's lots of videos of her on set currently. Also, we got the news that uh Luke Cage and Danny Rand are on set for season three, so it looks like the the whole gang is getting back together. Um it bums me out too, because like I said, the way they ended Defenders, Colleen Wing had the Iron Fist power. So, like to me, I would have much rather seen Jessica Henwick come back and and be Iron Fist for this show, especially just to have another female as like part of the group. She's the much better actress, she's more attractive. I'd much rather see her than uh Finn Jones. What are we doing? I hope with the time that like Finn can maybe grasp this role a little bit better. Uh maybe years ago where they were doing it, it was a Netflix thing, it wasn't connected to the MCU. Maybe he didn't think like it it mattered his portrayal. So I'm hoping that like this time he understands that like you're now part of the MCU. This this has to be like a really good performance. I would like to see that. Like I I've seen him in Game of Thrones, like he did put on a great performance in Game of Thrones as Loris Tyrell. And like so I would like to see a little bit more of that. Hopefully, this if he is coming back, uh we we didn't think Luke Cage was coming back. Even the Luke Cage actor said he wasn't coming back, so it's like kind of a surprise to see that that he is back. I hope we get a lecture in Misty Knight as well. Like um Oh my god, dude.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Don't don't tease me with that, but if we get Misty Knight back, because we were getting such a great depiction of her towards the end of Luke Cage.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

And especially her and Colleen together, getting getting them together. Like they're a big part of the Miles Morales book currently in the comics. Like they're the ones who pretty much like are Miles OGs. Like she uh Colleen taught taught Miles how to fight with the sword, and and Misty like has been teaching him other moves and stuff like that. So like it would be cool to see them kind of be part of this whole thing, especially a lecture. Um, she's another phenomenal like actress, and I really would love to see her come back, though, especially the way they ended Defenders. Like, she's out there, we know she's out there, like easy to bring her back. I I am looking forward though to seeing more bullseye. Whenever Bullseye's on screen, that's kind of when my attention is like peaked. It's like this dude is so good, he's such a good actor.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

They teased us with him these last two episodes. Like, you thought you were gonna get more of him, and they just like they just I don't know, they they're building up the suspense of how of how uh kick not caring, uh Veronica is uh is kind of like afraid of him basically, and sh they're building up that suspense. So like you'll see him and then they'll go to her origins of why she is feeling the way she is. So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

That's what's leading me to believe he's gonna kill her by the time this season is over. And that that's how you get fisk. Like, because once she's out of the picture or something happens to her, you split them apart and the whole empire falls at that point because all he's he's gonna be so consumed with rage and blinded by her that he's not gonna focus on anything else. So, like, if that's the way they this all goes for this season and that's his downfall is Vanessa ends up getting killed or you know, getting getting an assassination attempt of some sort. I I think I think that's probably the the good guess of like how Kingpin falls. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Yeah, also just want to say like Charlie Cox and like his whole like he the way he's taking in the character of Dev Devil right now, he's like completely like leaning into it, and I just feel like he knows he is the ultimate version of what the character can be, and he is like owning it to like its highest s peak, and I'm loving it because he you could just see him the I just just the scenes in this I think it was yeah, the second one where he's fighting the dudes when they break into his house, that he's just like it he just so confident in being the character, and I just I love to see it because you know we've we went through some shit to get a daredevil or a good daredevil at least where we were on the edge of like will we ever see him again or something to see him being like so confident, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Like it it always take them back. He's a great actor in this role. I just my gripe with this show is that like they they seem to lean on every season of like him not being Daredevil or like focusing too much on Matt and just not on him being Daredevil, and there there hasn't been a good balance of that, I feel, in any of the seasons of this show. Like even going back to the Netflix version of the show, there was always like those gaps where like, oh, he can't wear the suit, or oh, he's not gonna be, you know, we're gonna focus on this Matt storyline. And not for nothing, that's the least interesting part of Daredevil for me. It's like I'd rather see these badass fight scenes, I'd rather see him and Bullseye, you know, teaming up and doing some shit. Like, let's ramp up the action a little bit more, I'm hoping, for the for the rest of these episodes. Because that that's been my like only gripe. It's a little slow. It's it's tough to like, alright, come on, guys. Like, alright.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Well, that's what I liked about season the episode two is because the majority of it, I think, was the him in the suit. And even like the scene where like uh you see how quick he went from being at Josie's bar and hanging out with Josie, and then as soon as they came in and they were by the take her, he was back in his suit. Like it was like almost like like Superman how he switches to his suit. And that was that was nice. I like that. But yeah, I'm loving the seasons.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Like I said, I'm just I'm hoping it ramps up. I I think it you think it will, hopefully. Um especially it's funny. Like I'm almost more anticipated now for season three based on like these, you know, bringing the defenders back. Oh my god, the leaks.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

They they I hate that they we get leaks like this sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Hopefully bringing, you know, Electra and Colleen and Misty back too as well. Like to me, that would be the way more interesting thing, especially if we can get them all, you know, in I I know they're not all gonna be in Spider-Man because season three won't be till next year, obviously, but it it would be a cool way to see all the street level characters come together and uh, you know, see where it goes from there.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

I know Alexa big becomes Daredevil at some point, but do you think because of the way how they're dealing with Karen? Oh, that would be funny.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

They make they make her that. Oh, you think Karen would take that role? No. I think um I my guess would be Karen probably would die before the end of the season. Like that would or or maybe next season. Um she dies in the comics. Um she does. Um but I I would I now that you speak about like the Electra becoming Daredevil storyline, I would love to see that in part of this show. Because like I love her in her current costume, like in the Daredevil costume. I think it's such a cool iteration of the costume. And then Matt has like his little Shadowland like costume that's kind of similar to hers. So yeah, it would be cool. I would like that, honestly, to see. But like I I'm happy with her coming back in any shape or form. Like I did see her post pictures on Instagram recently, and she's in the gym, she's working out, like she's got like an eight-pack, and she is she is like in peak physical shape. So I'm wondering if she's like already teasing, like, hey guys, I'm I'm coming back.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crossing my fingers and died of my teeth, hopefully.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Um speaking of females that are badass, we got the Supergirl trailer this week. Um I I I liked it. I I I'm not how do I say this? I'm not like I'm not I'm not so excited for this like I was for Superman. Um it's I love the story. I love the comic. Um, the Tom King Man, you know, Woman of Tomorrow book is is absolutely fantastic. And this looks like it's gonna be pretty close to it, but movie-wise, I I I don't know if this has enough to like sell a general audience on like, come on, come see this movie, like Superman dead.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Yeah, that's the thing that I find like I don't think it I don't want to say that it's corny, but I just didn't like I I just I don't know, I feel I'll say I feel indifferent because the whole thing of like with J with Jane's gunn is like he tries to be like well I don't want to say he tries to be because he is. He we he wasn't direct or write the fan. Yeah. Yeah. No, I know, I know, I know. But but it's it's it's just like they they told you from the beginning that this inspiration from this movie was from Woman of Tomorrow. And I just feel like because they're pushing that narrative so much, and I even see like Tom King saying, like, oh, doing signings and like yeah, this is the book that's going to be based off of the supergirl movie, which is which is true. But I just I don't know, I just feel like this it's a little gimmicky to an extent to me that that is making me like feel the same way I you feel about the trailer. Like they sh they keep drawing the Lobo thing, and I keep seeing Lobo, and I'm like, I'm seeing him two months that I'm like I feel like I've seen him already. Like I got him cool off of the Lobo.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

He's not in the movie a lot, from what I've heard from the fan screenings. Um the people who have already been around.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

So that's why they're throwing him in the trailer so much.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Yeah. Yeah. Um the the villain there they are sticking with Crag or whatever his name is that that is like the villain in the story, they just changed up his look a little bit. Um I think that's kind of I think that might be my problem with it. Um he's not really like a strong villain. He's he's not somebody that like you know, he's not a brainiac, he's not a you know, big time villain. He's just kind of like a random dude. And like the story is beautiful. If you if you've read the comic, if you've if you're familiar with like the graphic novel, it's a fantastic supergirl story. Um I just I don't know, like, like I don't know. I almost feel like if you were telling Me, this was just coming to streaming, I think people would be hyped for it. Like, all right, come on, let's let's go watch this. But as far as like it hitting a movie theater and like wanting to go see it in the movies, I I don't have that like immediate, like, oh, I gotta go see this. It's it's on the top of my list. I have a bunch of other stuff that's like above it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 22:18

You know what also sucks about it too is because we're kind of still in limbo with what's happening with Peacemaker and just the whole situation with DC in general, to be honest. That we don't know like we don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, what's the sequence here after this movie? Like, you know what I mean? So uh it it's just it's a it's a weird time, and like uh uh um yeah, it's just it's a weird time.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

We know this the Superman movie is gonna be filming because it's about to start filming. Um so so that could be the last piece of this puzzle, but again, after that, we don't know what happens. And I I kind of think that's that's gonna affect this film. I I did hear some other stuff. Millie Alcock even came out and like talked about I guess she's been getting a lot of hate because it's a female-led story, and I just want to emphasize that's not that's not the thing for me that's like keeping me not excited about this movie. But I thought the trailer was good, it looks good, it looks very Guardians of the Galaxy, like it it looks like thank you.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

Because that's exactly what I was gonna say. I was gonna say a lot of people in the beginning were saying, like, this looks like Guardians of the Galaxy, but the thing, and and then we even talk about the villain. Like, if you think about the villain from Guardians, it was Ronin. And Ronin, I mean, to in the comics, yeah, he does have a lot more things to do with it, but in the spectrum of the MCU, he was more of like, like, who we don't really know him that much to be a great villain, so they added the Thanos piece to it, so it made him bigger than that. So it's crazy how much people were like, this is like game game with uh Gardens of the Galaxy, but we're not trying to I don't want to compare because it is a totally different movie, but is the more and more I see, the more and more it looks like it.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Yeah. Well, like visually it looks like it to me. That's that's kind of my thing, is like visually the cinematography, the it looks like it's shot very similar. Um it is a fun space adventure story. There there is uh a heart to this, and you really get to flush out Karis' character and crypto's character. You get to see how much she loves this dog and how much you know she'd do anything for it.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

Um that's gonna take me to water.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

And I wonder I wonder if leaning on that twice, like you you did that in Superman, and I wonder if leaning on that twice is gonna backfire on them to where like people are like, Well, you already did this, so I don't really care or I don't really relate to it.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

I mean they're doing his his puppy version of him.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Well, there's two ver you you basically see him as a puppy when she first gets him, and then you see basically him later on, you know, because it's and you're gonna see Clark in this movie, he is in the trailer. Um again, I not that it was a bad trailer. It's just um it's just not up not at the top of my list for like movies that I'm I'm excited about. Like I I will watch it when it hits streaming. I don't know if I'm gonna like rush out to the movie theater to go see it, and if if that makes any sense. Um it's not that I don't want to see it, it's not that I don't think it's gonna be good. I think it's still gonna be a good movie because the the story and the source material is absolutely fantastic. Yeah. But yeah, I think just there's so much other stuff that's like a top priority for me to go see that like this kind of just gets shoved down the list a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

I feel you. I'm on the same page too. Like uh it's just it's this is a little bit more juice to it. I don't know. I just I just I want it I want it to come out so I can see it and I can just know where we stand as far as what's where where we're going next with it. And and yeah, that's just where I'm at with it.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

And I think I again like I I agree with you on the fact of if we didn't hear about this Paramount deal, I think my excitement still would be there because I'd be like, fuck yeah, let's go. Like not saying I'm I'm not gonna go see this movie. I there's high chance that I'll probably still go see it. But like I said, it's just priority-wise, it's like, alright, I'm okay if I just catch this when it hits streaming or or pick up the Blu-ray when it comes out, like rather than rush out there. But we'll see. I think I think maybe if they give us a little bit more heading into the movie, I'll be a little bit more excited. I really like Millie Alcock in the role. I think she's like a perfect casting for Kara, especially her cameo in Superman. Like, I thought that was perfect. I loved it. I when she came on screen, yeah, I was so happy. I was like, hell yeah. Like so it has nothing to do with like the character, it has nothing to do with it being a female lead, it has nothing to do with any of that. It's just I I don't know if like this is a building block to your DC universe. Like I just feel like it's like it's a cool story, it'll be fun, but you you have other characters that probably should have got the priority before she did or before this story did. Um I I think not having a Batman, I think not having a Wonder Woman. I was just about to Sorry, like I loved Superman. Superman, Superman was one of my top movies of the year last year. I loved everybody he cast in that movie. I love the Justice Gang. I I'm I'm here for it. I'm ready for lanterns to come out and get Hal and get John. But come on, we need we need Diana and Bruce, and we gotta get this team together because again, for all we know, after this next Superman movie, this whole DC universe could be over and done with before it's even started. And and I think that's gonna that might have my interest a little bit like weaning about this of of not knowing, like, does this even matter? Are we just gonna have a complete reboot again when Paramount takes over and somebody else in charge? Or I and I that that's the unfortunate part about this. Like, if if that news never came out, if this was going to Netflix and there was like a guarantee of we knew James Gunn was sticking around, I wouldn't have any issues. But I think with the uncertainty of like will he quit, will he not quit, will this this partnership even work? This this deal still could not go through. We talk about it all the time. There's so many variables involved in this Paramount deal. Like, there's still a huge possibility that that deal does not go through, or that this was the ultimate play by Warner Brothers and David Zaslov. Like that they knew this deal wouldn't go through, so they agreed to it so they can get the payout. It would be the smartest thing in in history if if that's how this all worked out. Um that's how I'm hoping it all works out, but I think there's a lot of variables as far as you know what happens with this DC universe going forward. Yeah, the only time we'll tell, so we shall see. And uh another trailer that was revealed was the Masters of the Universe trailer. Now I'm on record on this podcast talking about I'm not a Motu fan. I didn't grow up a Motu fan, I missed it by a couple years. Um so the only thing I'm familiar with is I remember the original movie from when I was a kid with Dolph Longren, and then I really like the Kevin Smith Netflix shows because I don't I don't have any I don't have any attachment to the previous material. For me, this Master of the Universe trailer looks good. Like I'm kind of here for it. Yeah, a lot of people I was go ahead. I I know um visually it does look almost like a toy commercial, and like um but I think I think that's how they like I think they're trying to pay homage to the original series because essentially that's what the original series was. It was it was a cartoon series that was a toy commercial every week so that they could get you to buy more toys for your kids. And I feel like that's what this is in just in a movie form. Like when you saw the shot of Castle Gray Skull and you saw that it's like, oh yeah, they're gonna replicate that in a in a you know Mattel Castle Gray Skull that you can purchase.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

And and I've seen shots of their new figures for the movies, and the new figures for the movies like look fantastic, and and I think this is gonna be the new direction they're going in. So I I do feel like it's it's correlated between the two. Um, but I like the trailer, I thought it looked good, and we don't have to see Jared Leto in the movie, and we don't really have to hear it. So that's a plus. I hope he doesn't ruin it. He's been going to ruin a lot of movies, I'd insane.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

I know, dude. So yeah, so that's the thing I like about this this movie too, as well, because when the way I was introduced to He-Man was was through the toys, and I just I used to see the commercial, and then I used to watch the sh they used to be they used to have the cartoon on like Toonami at at that time too. So um I was to watch it during that time, and so like you said, you hit it right on the nail when you show they show the castle and they show everything inside a little and all that. It just it reminded me when I used to have the castle, and I used to like you know, play with my toys like that way and stuff like that too. So um it was it was it hit me, and that's been what's what's been driving me into wanting to see this movie as well. A lot of people I know have also have been saying the same things that you as you said, where like uh they don't like that they're like it's it's him on Earth coming back to the He-Man universe. It's just why can't we just be all in in universe, like off-rip? Which I understand that too, because it's like the same thing. But but it I'm cool with it either way. I I'm I'm a little biased because I'm I'm into the I'm into email just based off of nostalgic reasons. So like the fact that we're getting a more like a more cinematic and not like Lyneland the Dolph. I've never seen the one that you were you were talking about, the um the original movie. Yeah, I never I never seen that one. Yeah, it's bad. It's pretty rough. That's it, like it's a good movie, yeah. Yeah, so to get it more something more serious and have some more like prominent, like good CGI and all that good stuff. I'm I'm excited to get that and see that. Because for the longest time, we were supposed to get like um a Thundercats movie too. So like this is like hopefully in the in the steps of maybe going that way.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

That's another one that like I have no attachment to. Um I know Voltron is coming. Uh that that's gonna be on Netflix. But um I did hear that like the whole Jared Leto not like so if to me that was the one thing where like I don't know why you necessarily cast Jared Leto to play Skeletor when you could have just hired Mark Hamill to do the voice if if he's all in the suit the whole entire time anyway. Yeah, that's true. Um I did hear though that part of Leto doing the English accent is to show that he's related to He-Man's parents because he's he's He-Man's uncle, Kaldor in his human form before he gets transformed into Skeletor. So I heard like that's the reason why they went with the English accent, is because the actors who are playing his parents have English accents, so they wanted to correlate the two and like give you that. I I don't know if it's gonna be a part of the story, but you know, obviously they they wanted to have some semblance between the two of it. So it's uh something different, and and I could see like wanting to make him serious rather than have him be like this cackling, ah he-Man, like ha ha ha, like you know. I get it. Like I get it. You you want to have an intimidating villain that's like you know, gonna gonna scare people and gonna show you. So like I'm cool with that if if you know, if that's like the the logic behind the choices.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

I didn't think about the both swimming.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

And Mark Hamill did a fantastic job. But Mark Hamill did a fantastic job in like the Kevin Smith version of it, you know, doing the voice. So like that's why I'm saying I was like, I'm surprised you didn't give Mark Hamill a call. I'm also surprised they don't give Mark Hamill a call for Batman 2. Supposedly they they're having trouble casting Sebastian Stan's father, who's who's he's playing Harvey Dent. And why wouldn't you just get Mark Hamill to come in and play Sebastian Stan's father? They look exactly alike, like it's a no-brainer to me. And apparently they've been they've been through like three or four big time actors to to play the role, and I'm just like, why hasn't nobody called Mark Hamill? Like if Mark Hamill wants Sebastian Stan to take over the Luke Skywalker role. So, like, what a perfect way to correlate that and like hey, have him play his father on screen and call it a day. Who wants him to do that? That's crazy. Well he they they look alike, they're they're spitting image and like Sebastian Stan. There's fan art if you Google like Sebastian Stan is Luke Skywalker, there's fan art of him and it's perfect. Like I've always said that that like you should be recasting Luke Khan and Leia at this point and and continue to do stuff with them. And you have the actors right here, why not just do it? Like it's it's a fuck the CGI shit. Like do get real actors and and do it for real. Especially when you have somebody who looks low the part. Perfect. Like, and and would be aged perfectly for Luke at this point in his life. Like Sebastian Stang could play Luke for the next 20 years and tell the stories that you want to tell between you know the end of uh uh Return of the Jedi and the beginning of the Ray legacy. You know what I mean? Like you could perfectly fill in that whole time gap with with these actors and you have them here. And like you have uh Carrie Fisher's actual daughter, like just bring her in, and you have the guy who played Young Han solo, like it's already there, just do it. I don't understand why it's so hard.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

And it also be kind of funny too, because you know, Sebastian Stan plays heroes who are handicapped, so he will play another character who's handicapped.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Losing losing an arm. Yeah, well, losing an arm is where the soldier and losing the hand is loose.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's crazy the correlation of that. He fits those parts so well.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Speaking of Star Wars, um, we are pre-recording this before the Maul Shadow Lord episodes drop, but we have two episodes of Maul Shadow Lord dropping, and the final trailer was revealed for this. Um I have to say, on record here, I think this could possibly be the best Star Wars TV show ever done. Um, this animation looks fucking so clean and incredible. The characters look amazing. There's so many new characters that are involved in this show that I'm excited about. I I'm very excited about Gideon Alden playing uh Devin Azara and how that story's gonna go. I think this this has the potential to be really, really awesome. And we got the tease that Vader is on the hologram talking to Marak. So uh yeah, we're getting him. He's coming. My boy was on the money. That's I love that. When I saw that in the trailer, I was like, fuck yes, this is how and they're I love how they're calling him the shadow, and this is how he's gonna get the nickname. Because in Rebels, when the Inquisitors come across him, that's what the Inquisitor, the eighth brother calls him the Shadow. Um they he doesn't refer to him as Maul, he doesn't refer to him as anything else, he just calls him the shadow, and and I love that because this is the shadow collective, this is the you know beginning of it. So it's it's cool to to see how like that's gonna impact Maul's future from here on out of of that. And and I love that uh we're getting the Mandalorians, we're getting other Zabrak that's part of his part of his clan. So I think this is gonna be fucking awesome. I'm so excited for these first two.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Yeah, this this is this show looks absolutely insane. Like it has a mix of being looking really gritty and also c really clean at the same time and like a horror movie almost. Yeah, and it has like an edginess to it, but a clean edginess to it. I don't know, it's it's a weird visual ex uh expression that it said like explain, but it just seeing it, you you'll know exactly what I mean. But I'm super hyped to see to see where we go with this with with Mole because for a long time he was a forgotten character, and to see him have his his spotlight be put out there now is it's gonna be great. And we're gonna get a lot more uh a lot more Sith people coming into the Star Wars universe pretty soon.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

So this did get officially announced for a second season already before the first season even aired. Um from what I heard, the original plan was three episod three seasons to begin with. So I kind of think we're getting all three seasons. This could go further if if it does phenomenal. Um I I did listen to a bunch of interviews with Sam Whitworth this week. I listened to uh a really great interview on Sky Talker's podcast, shout out to them. They had Sam Whitware, they did a round table with Sam Whitware and Gideon Alden and talked about the role, talked about different things with the two characters and how this is how Maul's We're gonna relate to Maul's passion and his his reasonings, but maybe not relate to his vengeance necessarily and like his his need for revenge, but we're also gonna feel sorry for him and relate to him because apparently from what Sam said, you don't need to have watched anything to come into this show that they're gonna explain everything you need to know about Maul in this show. So I'm guessing we're gonna see you know flashbacks to Savage of Press and him dealing with losing his brother and dealing with you know being cut in half and dealing with being cast aside by the Emperor. Like I can't wait enough to see how this all unfolds and to get that look into his insight because the one thing about Darth Maul that is is especially the way Sam Whitworth plays him, is the fact that everything he says you you kind of agree with. It's it's just it's not that it's right or wrong, it's the way it Maul like presents these half-truths and delivers it. And it's like he believes this to his core, and the way he presents it to you, you feel so believable where you're just like, you know what, he's kind of fucking right. Like I I kind of agree with him, even though, like, yeah, he's technically a bad guy, but he's right. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like maybe maybe you don't need to kill all these people, but yeah, some of them probably do deserve to die. He's right.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

It's it's cool too, because I hope they touch on Mother Towson. I hope um they talk about like his upbringing because a lot of people don't know Maul was basically taken as a child. So he was just a baby when he was taken. Um there's there's two species of his kind. So you you have the Zabrok, and then you have like the Dathomyrian Zabrok. So Maul was actually.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

They were in the Jedi, um, the Fallen Jet Fallen Order.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Yeah, so so Datomir is where the Knight Sisters are, and Mother Towson is the leader of the Knight Sisters. The Knight Sisters were pretty much wiped out at the end of the Clone Wars. Uh General Grievous goes there, slaughters pretty much all of the Knight Sisters. From what we know in canon, Marin uh from Fallen Order is one of the survivors of that that massacre, and Morgan Elsbeth from uh Ahsoka and Mandalorian is one of the other survivors of that. Now, as we saw at the end of Ahsoka, Thrawn is coming back with all of those Knight Sister coffins and the three Knight Sister, you know, witches, and basically they're going back to Dathomir to repopulate the planet. Um in this, at this point, the Knight Sisters pretty much are all gone. Ventress and Marin are out there somewhere in Morgan Hellsbeth, obviously. But I don't know if they're gonna have any role in this whatsoever. We do know that from Rebels, Maul kind of set up Dathomir like a he basically used Mother Townsend's cave as like his hideout and all his artifacts and the darksaber was there for a long time, like just hiding in in this cave on Dathomir. So I'm interested to see how all of that's gonna play out because yeah, Maul Maul was basically taken as a child, uh little baby, and he was given the tattoos as as a infant. Uh Mother Towzend took a liking to him and and took basically she saw what he was gonna become, she saw the power that this this child, this little baby had. And Pal Palpatine basically ends up like taking this kid from Mother Towzin because him and Towzin develop a relationship. So it's it's gonna be cool to see. And he was basically like tortured. Palpatine basically like tortured this kid and and made him hateful, made him rageful. So like the person Maul hates the most is Palpatine is Palpatine. Like he he disp and then to the fact that Palpatine's the one who killed Savage in that final duel in Clone Wars, he hates him even more. And like the one in important piece of the story we are missing, it's it's unfortunate that they never went back and did this, and maybe with one of the tale series they'll end up incorporating it and showing us this. But at the end of Clone Wars, because the the show technically got cancelled, we were supposed to see how Maul got broken out of Palpatine's palace, because the the way the duel ends with Savage, Palpatine kills Savage, basically takes down Maul and puts Maul in like a prison someplace. The group of Mandalorians, the Maldolorians, are the ones who go break Maul out. There's a graphic novel that basically shows that whole story. And and I feel like that's a vital part of the story that's like missing, because then when you get to the Clone Wars when the season came back and they did the Final season, you have the Siege of Mandalore, and like all of a sudden Maul's back and he's got the Mandalorians on his side, and yeah, you know, there's some missing pieces to it. So if you if you read this on a Dathymir comic, that story is kind of outlined for you and gives you those missing information that you're you know to kind of bring the whole timeline together now. Um that'll that'll show his relationship with Rook Cass in this season and why she's pretty much his general, his his right-hand person. And she's one of the few people Maul allows to actually like give her feedback and like talk back to her because he doesn't allow that to happen with anybody else. So I'm really interested to see how this all goes and how this all unfolds. And and you know, uh like we were saying, parts of it are shot like almost like a horror movie from Devin Azar's standpoint of like she's dealing with her own struggles of being on the run from Order 66 and with her master, and like what they should do, what they shouldn't do, and now she's almost gonna have this devil on her shoulder with Maul and her master, so it's gonna be like a tug-of-war between the two and see how she gets influenced and see how Maul eventually will more than likely bring her to the dark side.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

So, cool question with with Talon, is this the first time we're seeing her in the shows? Um, so like an apprentice.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

If Devon Azara ends up becoming Talon, yes, it will be the first time we've ever seen her in live action. Um, well, in any kind of media, basically, outside of the the comic books. Um George Lucas' original plan for the sequel trilogy before he sold it, the sold everything to Disney was Darth Maul and Darth Talon being his apprentice, being the the villains of the sequel trilogy, which would have made a much cooler sequel trilogy than what we got. But that was the original plan. So more than likely, because Dave has said that a lot of what George had planned is gonna be built into this show. I I'm guessing that's the route we're gonna go, is that Devin's gonna eventually be tempted and turned, and then she'll probably get tatted like Maul, and then she'll be Talon at that point, because and then that will be her Sith name that she ends up picking. Remember how I said like that that fine finale episode does not have a title? I wouldn't be shocked to see that that finale episode be titled Talon, and that's why they're they're hiding it for us. Because I can see that being like the struggle, the whole season of will she or won't she, and then we get to that point where like Maul ends up getting her to to to kind of sink his teeth into her and like all right, now she's my apprentice. And I'm guessing if if this all goes like the way I think it's gonna go, I think she's gonna become his apprentice at some point, some some you know, sometime along the way. I don't think it's gonna happen in this first season, obviously, as the show progresses and plays out. I think they're gonna have a split or a disagreement where she's still out there, and you know, then then the then the events of Rebels unfold where we see what happens to Maul, we see how he dies, and Talon is still somewhere out there because that would be a perfect character again to bring in to the sequel trilogy, to be a part of the Ray story, to just be another Sith or Dark Sider that's out there that we can use. It's it's even possible that Mia Goth could be playing her in live action, like that's always a possibility from Starfighter. So I I mean, I think it's gonna be cool. I think I think if that's what they're doing and they're introducing her, I think it's gonna be pretty pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

It's almost like a retelling of uh well it sounds like a retelling of uh with Anakin and um yeah, kind of. Him and Qui-Gon, you mean? Well, yeah, him and Qui-Gon, yeah. Because like you're saying like he is Tal sh t Talon was Maul's apprentice, and then she they have a disagreement, and he switched she switches up on him and they would go their own separate ways, and the only one left is them. So I'm thinking of it in the same sense of like Anakin and Obi, they had that disagreement mainly because of Palpatine, and then he switches up and goes turns into turns into Darth.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

But yeah, but yeah, that it's a little different because she'd already be a dark side or like she'd already be to the dark side, and so is Maul. It's just basically.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

Well, there's a dark side version, and then there was the Jedi version, you know.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

So I just I just think it would be a shame to kill her in this story and just have her character like you know what I mean, especially because this this this Gideon Alden is seems like a phenomenal woman. Like I was listening to her interview, she's very into this character, she's got a very great voice. So, like, I'm really interested to see how this character is gonna play out and how she's gonna put life into this new newly created character to make us all like care about her and and to want to see how her story progresses. Um I'm just saying that I I could see it going that way only because again, I I think you'd be leaving money on the table if you just kill her off in this show and just call it a day. Like, I think it would be fun to to have her out there as another character. And the one thing everybody needs to like the rule of two, right? Maul is not part of the rule of two anymore. He's his own lineage, technically. So basically it's a split sect of the Sith. Um Maul no longer considers himself a Sith. He's he even says that to Azra when he meets Azura. Just Maul. Yeah. Um there's no Darth in front of his name anymore. Um so that that's that's what I'm interested to see is is how how they define him differently than than Palpatine and Vader. And we're gonna be seeing the Palpatine Vader dynamic more than likely involved in this show, because I would be shocked that Palpatine's not gonna get involved knowing that Maul's back again. Um he's gonna feel Maul's power when Maul gets another apprentice, because that's what drew him to to kill Savage, was the fact that he felt Maul, he felt Maul kill uh Sateen, Duchess Satine, and in that moment the Maul and Savage basically elevated themselves up to his level and in the power of the dark side. And that's what made Palpatine go to them and fight them in the duel because he knew that if Maul continued to do what he was doing, Maul and Sauvage would actually grow more powerful than Palpatine himself and and you know eventually Vader. So man, there's so many, so many like little nuances that could have changed the whole fluctuation of how Star Wars goes, and it's really cool to see them like flushing this out with this show. I'm very excited about this show. It's the top of my list for things that I can't wait to watch. Like especially from Star Wars, like this has been something I've been waiting for for so long. I'm so happy for Sam Whitworth to get this moment. Um I'm so happy for the whole creative team that put this show together. And I do know that a lot of people got screeners for the first eight episodes. We're not that big of enough of a podcast yet to get the first eight episodes. But Star Wars, if you're listening and you want to send us those episodes, I will gladly, gladly, we will review them, we will talk about them. But from from everything I've from everything I've heard about those first eight episodes is that the show is phenomenal. And basically, like it just starts and has you hooked from the moment you know it starts and just continues. So I'm very excited about this. I can't wait to watch this. Uh, we're recording this on Sunday night, so the episodes come out Monday. Um, we're still gonna figure out how we're gonna do this. Maybe we're gonna change our day to record so this way we can we can cover the mall episodes currently. But uh me and Andre will talk about that off stream. We'll figure it out for you for sure. Don't worry. Yeah. Um, you know, did you want to say anything else about Maul before we go into our next topic?

SPEAKER_02 51:58

No, I'm just ready for Maul. Like, I'm ready for it. I'm speechless at this point.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

Well, now going into our quick hit section, you uh got to see Super Mario. So what did you think of the new the new Super Mario?

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Um, so for the most part, it was a really fun movie. Um, I definitely would say though I did like the first one a lot more better. Um the way I could describe this movie is like you're going to Universal Studios for a Mario ride, and it feels just like a ride as a roller coaster ride in real life. Because you are going from one part of the movie seeing these different references and these different scenes and things of that nature, and then out of nowhere, you are going to the next and the next and the next, and it's just like the plot is just all over the place. But if you're a fan of the series and just Mario in general, and Nintendo, really, in general, you will be like in heaven to the most part, because you're seeing all these different references, these people and things, and it's it it was a good time overall, but um, yeah, like um, I like I said I enjoy the first one more better, mainly because it did have more of a put-together story. Um the the the the the the the comedy of it too was a little bit more like funny, like you know, we had that in the first one we had that like that peach song that Browser had. We didn't have a a song of that nature in this one, so that was kind of a bummer in a way, but I mean what do you expect from a kid's movie, honestly? But it it it it did it did what it needed to do for me. Um okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

And I did hear a lot of the same sentiments that you like echoed. I've heard that from a lot of the people that saw like the reviews for it, or that that went and saw it and then put out reviews. Um I'd heard that the first one was much much more better as far as like a lot of people were concerned, just story-wise. Um do you think they're leading to like a Super Smash Brothers like crossover with all of them, like Donkey Kong and Star Fox and all of that?

SPEAKER_02 54:00

So so that's the thing, right? I've been hearing this, right? And in the movie, I'm trying to put things together and how that can be. Because through reviews and paper what people were saying, they were making that narrative sound more truer than what it than what I think it is. Um because from what I see, I don't I don't see a Smash Brothers movie coming. Um yeah they did kind of do like they okay, so yeah, we get Fox in here, right? And they are introducing new characters, so there is gonna be a another movie. But um I didn't see the Smash element basically. Like I just didn't see how that can be a thing. Um they need a copy this one again? No, he was in the first one, but they referenced him, they did say his name in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

Okay, but um like Seth Rogan played him in the first one, I think, right?

SPEAKER_02 55:00

And I and I think that that's also probably another reason why I like the first one better, because out of all the Nintendo stuff, Donkey Khan. So I can see that. So um, yeah, I'm I'm here for the time. Obviously, I would say well, one one thing I will say is though I I won't say it a second time. And if you can wait to see it when it comes out, maybe like on Peacock, because that's that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, it's that'd probably be the best bet, honestly, because I think you'll have a more enjoyable time when it comes out on streaming, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

Yeah, it it doesn't like even the first one. I didn't rush out to go see that, I waited till it hit Peacock and then checked it out. Um so I'll do the same with this one. It it you know, I'm not I was never a Nintendo guy. I even growing up, like I had a Sega and then I went to PlayStation. So like I was never a Nintendo guy. Uh even like yeah, I think the only Nintendo system I ever had was uh 64 and and played played GoldenEye and shit like that on it. Like I didn't even play Mario, so yeah I don't have like a big attachment to it, but I will check out the movie, you know, when it hits streaming for sure.

SPEAKER_02 56:07

Yeah, I'm told I was it I I had Game Boys, GameCubes, I actually didn't have a 64. That was that's the crazy thing. But I think I've had every Nintendo system except for a six uh uh obviously the first Game Boy and a 64. Those are only ones I never had. But other than I was up.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

I love the Nintendo store in New York, like that's always a fun spot to go check out and pop in. Um that's as far as like my love of Nintendo goes.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

So speaking of which, I I got it, I got a Nintendo Switch, everybody. I got a new Switch too. So I've been I've been in a whole Nintendo heaven lately, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

Um I know we've been talking about the Sadie Sync stuff and her being confirmed as Gene Gray. Um I don't necessarily trust this source that reported this. Um so take this with a grain of salt. But um, so just to be frank, I never listen to the scoopers. If you're a scooper on Twitter, I don't trust your word for anything. Unless it comes from one of like a reliable sources like Jeff Snyder or you know, somebody else in the entertainment industry that's actually a writer and and does that for a living, not just somebody who tweets like random shit on the internet. So this comes from My Time to Shine, hello. They're usually wrong about 95% of the shit that they put out, it's just random garbage that this person just like throws out there all the time. So take this with a grain of salt, but they're reporting that Sadie Sink signed a five-picture deal that includes TV appearances as well, um, and that she is gonna be the centerpiece of the X-Men universe going forward. So, how do you feel about that? Are you excited about that, you know, hearing this? And do you think like going with Gene as the centerpiece and building the X-Men around her is the way to do this?

SPEAKER_02 57:58

Well, the first thing I'll say is like the whole thing with Sadie Singh and her being the Gene Gray has gotta be the worst fucking Hollywood secret ever because it just doesn't make sense. It's just how that has been like the topic of conversation before the trailer came out and all that has just been it's been all over the place. Um as far as like how I feel about it, it's just like there her this is to speak X-Men. Like she is a main part of this of the team, but like she ain't the team, to me at least. Um the X-Men is is a group, so like for them to be leaning on her just being the centerpiece of all these of all these different things to the X-Men is kind of just like um I don't know. I I'm not it it it it's not the it's not the best idea, I think, but it's also like like there's so many other ways you can go about it, um, I feel like and it's it's it's just it's it's crazy how they're banking on her for so much. Like I don't I don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 59:02

So I I will say to me, she was the best thing about Stranger Things. Um her performance stood out, especially the the final season. She was the only character I gave a shit about the whole entire final season. Her and the other younger girl who was part of the show. Um I would I would love if there's a way that they can get that actress involved in like the X-Men 2 to have Sadie Sink and her kind of paired together again. Uh because that other younger actress, I don't remember her name from the Stranger Things, but she was phenomenal. I don't remember who how she was related. She was the other little girl who like was trapped in the other world or whatever, um, with Sadie Sink. So oh, this guy's sister.

SPEAKER_02 59:42

I know he's talking about, yes.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

Yeah, I I would I would love to see like them s find a way to get her involved somehow. Um, but I do think Sadie Sink was the best part of Stranger Things, uh especially towards that final season. So I'm interested to see her be in this role. I think she's gonna be a fantastic Gene Gray. Um she looks the part, I think she has the skills to play the part. My big thing, like I was saying, was there can be a couple older X-Men when you're putting this team together. Like if you wanted to have Storm and Wolverine and maybe Emma Frost be a little bit older than the rest of them, I'm fine with that. But I I I feel like you're gonna need to cast like 21 to 25 year old kids to go along with Sadie Sink. Like, it's gonna have to be that age range so you can keep this group together going forward. Like, if you have five her her locked in for five movies going forward and you're gonna build this whole X-Men universe like around this team, it's gotta be people that fit with her. And like it's it's not a bad idea logically to say, all right, we're gonna have her be Gene and we're gonna build the X-Men around her. I I'm cool with that. It it it works. Um, especially going from the comics of like, yeah, Gene was pretty much well, depending on which comic, it's either Sage was the first X-Men student, which she was, but Gene was Charles basically first pick. She was the first one that like Charles basically took in because Charles related to her so much because of his problems as a child.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:13

Yeah, they had the same powers almost.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

So it'll be cool to see. I'm just I'm very interested to see like their plan for the X-Men and their plan for putting this all together, especially like if they're gonna weave her from Brand New Day into Secret Wars, and then you know, do we use the Phoenix in Secret Wars to some extent? Do we save the Phoenix for much later on and kind of build her story rather than jumping the gun? I I don't know like which way they go with this and and how all like the nominals fall.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:44

I feel like we're gonna see the Phoenix at least by Secret Wars.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Like it was intentional that Femke Jansen is not coming back. Like she even said that like Marvel did not reach out, even reach out to her about coming back for Doomsday. So it was kind of intentional that they already knew that, like, hey, we we have our gene, and we're not gonna confuse people by having multiple genes or doing anything. You know what I mean? Like they must have had this plan in place already, and and hence why she's not coming back at all, and being even from the Fox universe, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Yeah, but now like who do you cast as Cyclops to go with her? You because you you you have to have Cyclops be almost the same age as her or close to it. Um and then what is the team that you build around her? Like who who were the other X-Men? Do you just do the OG five and and call it a day? Do you kind of build out a big team and then have like an ensemble cast that that kind of can rotate in and out? I I don't know. I don't know what the best course of action is because if if it was up to me, I would like a mix of characters maybe that we haven't seen before. Um I think if you just go with the OG five, it's cool, like great, but I feel like we need some other characters mixed in there to to really like flush out this team and and going with like some new characters that like Lorna Dane or you know, people that we haven't seen in the movies before, people that we haven't seen like be a foundational X-Men member. I think you you swing for that a little bit and try to, you know, magic Ileana. We talked about her being part of this team. Like, I think that's a no-brainer, is like uh elevate magic to being a mainstream character across the board because she's already there, she's got a comic book series, she's everybody's favorite in Marvel rivals. Like elevate Ileana now to give her make her be part of Colossus, you know, like we can do that and change up this team so it's a group of eight, maybe, and we get a cool team put together rather than just like the OG five.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:42

Yeah, that would be awesome. I I really hope that maybe we would they they can go with that. That would that would be dope.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

Yeah, I I I I think that would be the way to do it. Um hopefully, you know, get a diverse cast, change it up a little bit, and and you know, have some some other characters be part of this. Um speaking of X-Men, X-Men 97 promo came out. We got our look at the new Funko Pops that came out, and we got our look at a design for a tote bag and t-shirts that shows all of the X-Men cast um in these kind of awful outfits. I I don't know. So this is what confused me about seeing this image and seeing these Funko's released. When we saw the trailer from New York Comic-Con, none of these outfits were in this trailer. Um, none of these looks were in that trailer. Wolverine was in his brown and yellow suit. In this promo art, he's Pharaoh Wolverine, and that worries me. Did they go back in the time since Comic-Con and change this whole season too? Like, that's what I'm really wondering.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

Like, did they really go back and just so supposedly when um I forget the original showrunner's name. Uh I think his name was Mark. Yeah, De Mayo. I was gonna say Mark DeMeo. Yeah, I was gonna say Mark, but okay. Um he got fired. Yeah. When he got fired, he said that he they had about 97% of he had about almost 97% of season two. And half done by them.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:18

Season two was completed by Bo DeMoo. He was on season three, he was already writing episodes for season three and in that process. Yeah. He did say in his tweets that they were gonna go back and rework some of his his scripts for season two and that Age of Apocalypse and a couple of the other storylines he included were cut out from season two now. But I'm just speaking strictly about the trailer that we saw. Like none of this none of these designs were in the trailer. So in just a year, and a little under a year, just from New York Comic Con, which was in October, that this is a whole new show now? Is that what we're talking? Like, or or are these just looks that we're gonna see for the opening of the show and then quickly they're gonna

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Yeah, I feel like maybe towards the end of the end, because the end the second half of this of the season, we might see more of them in these clothes, but I think that first half is mainly what that trailer was. Um I hate the Faro Wolverine story.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:16

I fucking hate that story. That is one of the worst 90s stories ever in existence. And I never thought they would go that route. Like I was when I saw the design, I was like, you gotta be fucking kidding me, they're gonna do Feral Wolverine and like fuck me. Like I hear you. I hear you, I hear you. So I love seeing Lorna. I'm I'm I knew she was gonna be part of this season. Um, her and Havoc are gonna be part of the the current day team. Um but yeah, otherwise, I didn't like any of the designs. All of them look really bad. Storms actually looks kind of cool. She's just in like the blue and yellow, and then she's got like a brown cloak as her cape instead of like the normal stuff. Um but I had heard originally they were supposed to be in the Grant Morrison suits, and these are not the Grant Morrison suits. So I don't know. I'm very confused because like I said, when we saw that trailer from New York Comic-Com, we saw them in totally different looks than than all of these looks, um and different storylines that according to these looks aren't gonna be involved. So I am very confused as far as like what they ended up cutting, what they ended up changing from season two now, and that worries me about this show. Like for for all the wrongdoing Bo Dameo did, um, he deserved to be fired. So let's just make that clear. But you had somebody who really loved the comics, really paid attention to the comics, brought all these storylines that we we were probably never going to get into season one of X-Men. Um he captured exactly what X-Men was, he captured the essence of what the original show was from the 90s. I mean I'm worried about, you know, I don't know how many people from the the past staff are still involved in this season too, but seeing this stuff kind of makes me a little bit like, oh, are they gonna fuck this up like because the showrunner's gone? You know what I mean? Yeah, and like I said, yeah, and they don't have somebody as passionate behind it like they like we did. And I agree, he should have been fired. He deserved to be fired for what he was doing and the things that were going on. But um I just I I that's the unfortunate part is you you know, you you lose somebody who's who's who's got a vision how this should go.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:34

That was I'm I'm on the same page with you. Like that was the unfortunate part about it, is the shit that he did was uncalled for, and it was a you you you get you what you asked for, you get what you get. But yeah the thing about him that I really love is that he does really love these characters, and I think he depicted them in the way that X-Men fans have always wanted to see them. Yeah. But minus some other things that were unnecessary, but um just as far as personality and the stories of connections between these characters, it was done like exponentially well. And I really hope that we don't like we just say like we're saying, I really hope we aren't gonna lose that coming going forward in the seasons to come.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:17

And and I did hear Brad Winterbaum speak about how they they want to get this, I guess, more on schedule to where this can release annually, just like Daredevil, where like now I guess they're already mostly done with season three or like working on season three, so by the time season two comes out in the summertime, they'll already pretty much be wrapped on season three, starting work on season four, and that's gonna be the plan. Um they did say that they they want to keep this show going for as long as they possibly can. I just hope that it doesn't lose that quality that we had from season one, because season one was so special, it was so perfect, in my opinion. There there were some things that I would have liked to see drawn out more, especially the Madeline Pryor Goblin Queen storyline and Inferno. Like I would have liked to see that maybe go two episodes or three episodes and really drag that out a little bit more. Because that that Inferno story is so good in the comics. So the fact that like we got bits and pieces of it and then just kind of zoomed through it all in one episode, I'm fine with it because we got so much other content that they that they call to the you know, the Jenosha stuff from new X-Men, then stuff that's like that they're following the timeline of the actual X-Men comics. Like they took storylines that happened in the late 90s and storylines that happened in the early 2000s, and like that's what this show is. So, like, if you're following the timeline, you would be going to those stories. So I'm hoping that they can keep that same magic. I'm hoping they don't lose you know what this show encompassed and and can can keep that going forward because to me that's that's the heart of the show, and and the fact that you know the original showrunners are are so involved in this too. I hope that's well yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

They welcome back.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:00

Yeah. So um Mandalorian is coming out. We're we're getting some more promos slowly for this.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:08

Ironic, right? It is coming out, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

Like so I've I've seen the the toys now in the store. They're they're not really moving, they're they're kind of sitting on the shelves a lot. I don't think a lot of people still know that a new Star Wars movie is coming. Um The ironic thing though is I'm seeing Pedro Pascal do a lot of interviews for this movie. And yes, I get it. He voices the character, but he was on set for not even a week. Um he was filming Avengers Doomsday before after this movie. So he showed up on set, he did his week or so on set for Mandalorian, and then took off to go film Doomsday. Brendan Wayne and Latif Crowder are the two individuals that play Mandalorian. Uh Brendan Wayne is the grandson of the great John Wayne and is the person who's in the Mandalorian armor all the time. Uh Latif Crowder is the stunt man who does all the stunts in the Mandalorian suit. So it it bothers me just slightly that neither of those actors get the credit that they deserve for bringing this role to life. Um I did see Brandon Wayne doing some interviews on his own, but the fact that like they they do all of the work and get none of the credit, I'm kind of not big on that aspect of things.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

Yeah, but I I get I get that too, but that's also the name of the business too, because I understand that they should they should they should, they should, but I feel like they know going into this like we are just the stunt people at the end of the day. So we I feel but they can speak on it because I would like to hear that perspective. Like you from the not not the actor and the celebrity-ishness of the I would like to hear from the person who is is doing the stunts, you know? So yeah, I feel you on that part too.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:58

I just feel like if Disney's gonna use Pedro Pascal because they think he's gonna sell this movie. He's not, unfortunately. I'm I'm sorry. Like that's that's not you can you can have him out here, you can have him doing all the interviews and saying all the right things, but like let's be honest, I think people are kind of sick of Pedro Pascal at this point because we've seen him in everything for the past year and a half. Um every big movie, every big franchise, every big role. So and and that's that's not meant to be disparaging, it's just the the fact of like we we only want to see these like you can only watch so many movies with the same person in it before you're just like alright, I I need to see somebody else in the role. I need to see somebody else out here. Um I I just for me, I feel like if if you're doing billing of this movie and you're putting on the poster Pedro Pascal, Sigourney Weaver, I feel like Brendan Wayne and Latif Crowder should have that billing right there next to those two celebrities. That's my opinion. Brendan Wayne does all the work, Latif Crowder does all the stunts, they're the ones in the suit, they're the ones playing the character and doing pretty much everything. Pedro just comes in when they need him to take off the helmet and then does the voiceover work.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

So I think to me, I feel like Disney is have fucked kind of messed up on this pro on the promotion side from the beginning. And the fact that we didn't get that really big spot in the Super Bowl was really like serious L because you could have really ramped the hype for this movie on the s in the biggest stage where we see these commercials and things of that nature. And now we're getting to like the very end of promotional end, and now we're starting to see more and things of that nature. And I just feel like I don't feel like it's on any of the actors. I feel like this is all Disney's white, that the fact that you like you said, with toys in the store still, and people are not noticing that there's a new Man Lori movie coming out. A show that is so loved based off of just the fact that we there's a baby Yoda and stuff, and people are not like into that. Like I don't, I don't, I don't understand it. It's it's the weirdest like marketing move I've ever seen the company do, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:14

So they're kind of that's how they're marketing it. They're just like, here's Grogu, go see this movie. And it's like I I'm sorry not how this works.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:21

Like you you have to make people interested and and look at But a lot of people go crazy just because it's it's it's go it's Yoda, it's baby Yoda.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:30

So everybody's like, yeah, I would argue the opposite because look at us, look at this mall series. They've been putting out trailer after trailer, they've been promoing the shit out of this show, and I think a lot of people are very excited. There's good word of mouth, there's good excitement around this show. With Mandalorian and Grogu, nobody still knows what this movie is even about. Nobody has any idea like what actually who's actually the villain? What is actually the plot of this movie? What is the point? What is making me want to go see this movie, other than like, oh, here's Grogu, here's Baby Yoda, go crazy and go see this movie because of it. It's two very different stark strategies, and like you said, they miss their opportunity by showcasing it on the biggest stage in the world that hey, we have a new Star Wars movie coming out. Star Wars means, you know, everybody should be at the movie theater regardless. But again, there's no lightsabers in this movie. There's it's just, you know, a guy that you're just like, oh, he kind of looks like Boba Fett if you've never seen The Mandalorian show, and like, oh, here's a little little Yoda. Does this take place before the the, you know, are we watching like a story of a of a baby Yoda, an actual baby Yoda? Because I know a lot of people who still think Grogu is a baby version of Yoda, yeah and don't don't realize that no, this is after Yoda already died. So I it's it's to to me it's gonna be a very interesting thing to see what this movie actually does, how it goes, and uh yeah, I I I don't know. I even asked my friend today, I said, uh, you know, hey, do you want to see Mando and Grogu with me? And he's like, fuck no. He's like, I'm not even gonna waste my time. And like he's watched, he's somebody who's watched all three seasons of Mandalorian, but he hated the last season of Mandalorian. So for him, like that turned him off to the sh to and even wanting to see the movie at this point. So and and that's just one example. I know a lot of people who kind of feel the same of like, no, I never watched the show, I don't really care. Like, and uh that's unfortunate. Yeah, it is. Um a show that you were big on, uh, Avatar the Last Airbender, uh officially announced that uh June 25th, season two will be dropping. Season three is already shot and completed. So these this the show is already done and over with. Um basically we're just gonna get it back to back now. So I like that that they're gonna get out season two, and then we'll have season three, you know, not too far behind it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:55

Yeah, I'm I'm excited to see this. I'm ready to see what they do with um with Toph and see uh show her whole origins and stuff like that. One of my favorite characters, well, the Earth Kingdom in general is my favorite. So just to see, just to see this in on on live action is gonna be great. Um I what I also like about Netflix is that when they take these shows, like so like with with One Piece and like with this, they they do take all of them and they condense them in a way where you can like we're watching like five episodes and then just one episode. So like it's uh I really like that aspect. So um for new for viewers who've never watched like the cartoon to to come in and watch it like that, and then maybe wanna want more and go ahead and watch the original is is dope to get the viewership on the original and people to like get familiar with it and stuff like that. So I'm excited for it and yeah, like I'm ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:52

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it as well. I I really loved the first season of it. I thought it was phenomenal. Um, so I'm really excited about you know seeing how this is all gonna progress and seeing it in live action. Like for me, like I said to you, the animation for the original series was a little tough for me to watch because I just don't like anime-styled stuff. It's it's it's just visually not appealing to me. So like to see this live action and see it play out and see it played out with actors and actresses that I I like, I'm more invested in the the live action show than I I was, you know, trying to watch the animated one.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:24

Facts. Fun fact um in the city where I live, Rening, Pennsylvania, in that original avatar movie, the freaking the one that sucked, that was really bad. Um, the pagoda scenes were were filmed here at the pagoda that is like the like monument of like the whole city, basically. And like uh I remember back in the day when they would then like the camera crew and stuff would be here for that. So like every time I see the pagoda in that movie, I haven't watched that movie, but I think I'd say to myself, that's the actual pagoda that like anywhere in the city where you're at, you can look up into the mountains and you see that pagoda. And that's like the monument for like the city. So like when you see that, you just think of a city, I just think, oh wow, that's what angle that's what angle in the side.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:14

Um they also showed off a trailer for back rooms. Are you familiar with this? Did you see this trailer or are you familiar with like the backstory?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:23

I I don't I don't know anything about back rooms. I did see the trailer. I think it's an A24 film, so I'm interested off of that. So yeah, put me on.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:33

So this whole thing originated from a kid who's actually way younger than us. I want to say he was 16 or 17 at the time, doing these as YouTube shorts that he was putting out on YouTube. Basically, they got so many millions of views on these YouTube shorts about backroom. Um basically the the whole premise is like an almost like an alternate dimension. So basically, like this movie, for instance, it's a furniture store, and in the basement, you know, this guy stumbles across this back room, this door that appears out of nowhere, and he walks in and it's basically infinite space and it's empty. So like it's all psychological, it's very like trippy and and like holy fuck, like what what is this back room? What is here? And so this kid actually, because of how successful his YouTube shorts were, that they actually signed him to a deal and have him directing this movie. So like it's literally like an 18-year-old kid who like wrote and directed this movie and came up with it, which is kind of wild to think. Yeah, but apparently with the success of those shorts, like they got millions and millions of views. I think one of the one of them has like over almost 10 million views on it. So like they were shot almost like part found footage cam, like almost like Blair Witch style, part you know, like actual shot. So you you kind of switch back and forth between like the handicam footage or like the cell phone footage and like the regular camera work. But it is supposed to be almost like an M-night Shyamalan, like trippy kind of what is the premise of this when you when you're playing Black Mirror type thing? Um a little bit. Uh it's it's it's more so like like Black Mirror more more so focuses on technology that's like currently being invented and like the downfalls of it. Uh this is more so just like a psychological thing, like a psychological thriller. Um and the guy who played Baron Mordo or uh yeah, from Doctor Strange, he's gonna be the one like as the main character in this. So uh I forget his uh uh Cheppay something is his name, I think. Um I'm I'm interested to see because like the trailer does look kind of kinda fucking cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:52

I want to see these skits on YouTube. I'll I'm looking that up as soon as we get off to see what that's in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:57

I've never like I uh so my friend Laura actually put me on to like the backroom stuff. She had seen the shorts and she had sent me the trailer for this when it came out, and she was like, let me know what you think, like after watching the trailer. And I was like, This looks like wild. So like I just I it like I said, it kind of gives me that M-night Shyamalan feel where like the concept might be better than the actual ending of the movie or the explanation, like the idea itself is kind of trippy and out there, and then like however they resolve it or however they explain it might not be cool. Like you might be like, Oh, that was kind of fucking dumb when it's all said and done. But right, right, right, it's it's got that potential, I guess, depending on how it all plays out and like how it goes. But yeah, I've never checked out the shorts myself either, so I I just know you know the the backstory of because I remember it going viral, and I remember seeing like people talking about it and and tweeting about it like when it was happening.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:53

Interesting. Yeah, interesting stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:56

Um, speaking about like horror stuff, Zack Krager, who did weapons and uh and and those other movies, Barbarian. Uh he is working on a Resident Evil project, a live action Resident Evil. I I'm not sure if it's gonna be a movie or if it's gonna be a TV show, but we were talking about it a couple weeks ago, like when the Resident Evil game came out. Yeah. I'm I'm dying for somebody to like nail Resident Evil in live action, whether it's a TV or a movie series. Like I just I need you to to stick to what what the premise of the game is. Like, I need to see Leon, I need to see Claire, I need to see those characters. Like with the Mia Job Jovovich stuff years ago, like you focused on Alice, you did the whole story with her with all those movies, and it just got tiresome. Like, I want to see the actual characters from the game kind of get focused and on and kind of get flushed out, and hopefully, like that's what it is. From from what he was saying, he he's really leaning into the horror aspect of it and like really wants it to be scary and like make you jump out of your seat and make you like wonder what's around the corner as you're watching you know the movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:03

I heard that so this movie has been in the works for I think a little bit now because at one point the script was leaked, but from what the script was says, what people when people read it, they loved it, and everybody has been it's been scotted good reviews off of it. So the other thing too is that like I don't think this is gonna be um I don't think we're gonna get those characters as main characters in the movie. I think this is gonna be a separate, like uh like it's gonna be its own movie, not having like those different characters in it, but I mean it will be in the Resident Evil universe. So like you'll hear them talk about the umbrella corpse and raccoon city and things like that. So like um, so that would be interesting. I always I always thought the Resident Evil movies were more in to me. I always thought they were more interesting that way because you get like another story in the Resident Evil universe. So I mean it's always dope to get somebody to get a cameo. I'm not I'm never not down for a cameo in Resident Evil, but I like to hear the different stories but where where this is going because because of the video games recently I d went down the rabbit hole of like figuring out like where are we right now in the video game universe, which is like the main universe, and it's been pretty fucking interesting, and it actually hasn't lost lost its its connective tissue since the beginning, since where I got into it before, but I just I dropped off a little bit because it was it felt confusing, but I I ran around I read up on it. Um it's actually never lost this this touch. Um that's what I'm saying. I'm excited for this because of the fact that it's a um whatchamacallit it it is from weapons and the the director who created weapons and weapons was was almost damn near like a zombie movie to it to an extent. So I can um see how he can add those elements into a Resident Evil movie, and uh that's gonna be that's gonna be insane.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:07

Yeah, I like I said, for for me, I kind of would rather see more of the the characters that we know from the the the the game series. Like I think I don't know, I think you're doing a disservice by like changing all of that because regular people don't know anything about the games. Like people who've never played a Resident Evil game might know the movie but never played the game. So like I don't know. I feel like like you can go either way with it, but I feel like so far a lot of the people who have done like original stories, like the Resident Evil series that was on Netflix and the CG series that was on Netflix, like they're all just kind of lame shows, like at the end of the day, because there's no you don't have like your main hero that you're focusing on. You don't have it's just like a random group of people doing this like random thing in Raccoon City. And I don't know. For me, that kind of doesn't make it any different than any other zombie thing. Like we uh Walking Dead made it tough for the zombie. Genre, in my opinion. Like if even Last of Us like suffers from the same thing. It's like I watch Last of Us and I feel like I'm watching Walking Dead, and it's just like I'm not interested in this anymore because I saw Walking Dead do all of this already. You know what I mean? Like you're you're repeating the same beats, you can only do so much with a zombie thing unless you're like the Bone Temple and like you know, the those zombie movies where they've like changed things and and tried to tweak some of the lore to make it more interesting. So yeah, I don't know. I'm I'm interested to see, but with Zack Krager being involved, I am more interested in seeing like how it all plays out. And speaking speaking of Zack Krager and Weapons, Amy Madigan, um best supporting actress winner for for the Oscars, uh, she is getting her official spin-off for weapons. So I'm guessing they're gonna go into her origin story of of, you know, I guess how she became a witch, how old she actually is. My guess would be Amy Madigan would be playing her more currently, and we'd probably get somebody different playing her younger. Um I am interested in this though. I I liked weapons. That was my one kind of gripe about weapons, is like we got no explanation of her, no backstory, like anything as to like what she actually is or or the whole premise of that. So the fact that like he's gonna focus on a whole movie about her is is kind of cool to me. And and to see Amy Madigan come back, like her performance was phenomenal in the movie. So to see her get to come back, I'm I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:36

Yeah, uh the thing with weapons is that I always always felt like it moved really quickly, and you will all in the beginning in your first watch, you're trying to like understand each person's scenario until it gets to the end and you you just see what happens. But uh yeah, to see when she came on screen, shh, she was terrifying. So so like to finally to to get a spin-off on her character will be will be dope as well. Yeah, I I can't I I'm excited to see what they do with that. And I don't even like horror movies like that. So to me to be ex uh excited for that is saying something.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:10

I see. I'm a big horror person, I like a lot of horror stuff. Uh, we'll talk about in the what are you watching later on in the show. Um, I'll talk about a horror series that I just watched. But uh yeah, I I'm I'm here for it. I'm looking forward to seeing, you know, what they end up doing with this and how it's all gonna play out. And I'm wondering, like, since barbarian and weapons kind of tie in together, I'm wondering like if he's gonna do something even further to tie like Amy Madigan into Barbarian and so forth. Like, it should be interesting to see how he like continues to build out this little universe that he's created so far. Yeah, I can't wait. Well, it's time for one of our favorite segments, uh Comics of the Week. Comics of the Week. So, what was your comics of the week this week?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:00

So, no brainer here for everybody who saw my uh com my my my my blind bag episode um on my on my on my how many blind bags did they get you for?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:12

How many?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:13

They could have got me for more, but I was a smart boy, and I only got one, so I'll show the one again. It was this cover right here, and then I also got the original cover right here as well. Um so yeah, um, but not only that, I did I did get this one, I also did get uh the new Batman um all in. And I did pick up something else like, why can't I think of it right now? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:39

So how I I did not pick up the Daredevil issue. Uh shout out to Stephanie Phillips, though. Uh I'm very excited for her to be able to get this you know opportunity to write this comic. She's a fantastic writer. Um, I'm a big fan of her work. So, what did you think about like this Daredevil series? I know it's it's it's not technically a number one, but it's essentially a number one because it's it's starting, you know, pretty much with a whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:04

Yeah, so this is basically I mean this this first one really is introducing to you the Daredevil, the character in general. Um and then right at the very end, they implement the um the the villain of this all, and it's spell supposedly somebody that knows him and is like trying to protect trying to cut him off, uh trying to like warn him about something that's gonna be happening in his future, and you know, Matt is thinks he's a he he he kind of looks like a combination of like if Muse became a part of the hand. So like to see him in this, uh see that like visually, you your brain already starts working and thinking, like, oh, who can this be? And then um another element that they added to this is that he Matt is a professor at I think like NYU or something like that, but um that also makes me think of like teaching the MCU universe, yeah, yeah. He's teaching law. Um so it makes me think about the MCU universe, and you know, we we see Bruce doing what he's doing in Spider-Man. I would not be surprised if they bamboozled us again and they put him in this uh in in this and in that same school, and that's how we get that connection with Daredevil. But I mean that's that's a great that's that's another uh reckless speculation right there. So we will we will see what happens. But overall, though, I like the beginning of this, it was fun. Uh the art I think we was was really amazing. I um same guy who does um the art in the Chip Sodarski stuff. Um, I think his name is Frank Martin. Um and and this is it's just a fun ride. Um Daredevil is just like the topic of like all my comics and just like super history. Yeah, you're you're a big Daredevil guy. Yeah, yeah. So um we got the show and this coinciding with each other is it's great. Um I I loved it. Yeah, um, I can't I want to get into that Batman one, but I haven't gotten through yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:08

I I did hear that they um they did change their blind bag policy now after this because a lot of people were pissed that they were pulling cover A's out of the blind bag. To me, that was always like a a head scratcher of like, why are you gonna put the the common cover in the blind bag and just basically rob people? So I stuck I stayed away from this. Um I'm I'm not as big of a Daredevil fan as you. Like I'll I like when he's in other books, but reading a solo from him, not something I needed to do, although I might go back and pick it up simply just because of Stephanie Phillips. Like I think she's fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:48

Like I just finished reading Planet Hawk and I did start her Gwen Stacy run as well, but I didn't I didn't finish it. But the Planet Hawk was was just it's just fun. Like she has a way of making the comic very fun, and uh it's just a good time.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:03

Yeah, and she's absolutely beautiful too, by the way. That's a fact. Um, did you have anything else for for this week that you that you read that you wanted to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

Well, like I'm getting into this, but I just didn't get to finish it. That's all.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:17

Yeah. Um so I have it right here. It is my comic of the week. Um, a another fantastic issue in this run. Um, Poison Ivy is the mayor of New York City or of Gotham City now, and that's kind of tying over into her new status quo in her book that they I think it was last week, was like her big inaugural issue as the you know, becoming the mayor. Um basically, Vandal Savage works out a deal with her to persecute Batman. So now the the city is gonna be hunting down Batman with Vandal Savage's new task force, and it's going to lead eventually to Barbara Gordon being arrested and put in jail, which will start her new series that's coming. So I I think it's the next issue of Batman that we'll see, you know, what happens with Barbara, how she gets caught, and then her series will start Barbara Gordon outbreak or prison break, whatever it's gonna be called. So uh I I'm liking how they're doing this. I I'm loving the art for this, the the art for this book is just absolutely fantastic. And it was interesting to see uh Alan Scott Green Lantern appear in this. Batman basically goes to him for advice and asks him about Vandal Savage. So even though Batman has like encountered Vandal and and beaten him with the Justice League, he's kind of looking for more information as to like how to take Vandal down and why Vandal Savage would be like taking this much of a personal thing to go after Bruce Wayne. And um that's kind of how this story is like flushing out, and it's been really cool so far. So I'm very interested to see, you know, how it's gonna continue to go. Um Batman and Static Shock Beyond, uh, another great issue with this. This is really like the the uh the best version of Static Shock I've ever seen. I also really love seeing Terry. Um it's just really cool. It's it's it's really great to see these two together. And the the I would like to see more of the future Justice League incorporated into this. They're part of the story, but they're not like the main characters. Static and Batman Beyond Terry are are pretty much like the main focal points, while the rest of their Justice League is is out in space like negotiating. So it would be cool to kind of see them all back together and kind of really get like more of that future Justice League. But it's been a cool series so far. I don't know if this is ongoing or if it's this is gonna end soon. I kind of have a feeling like it's gonna end pretty soon, but if not, I'm I'm here for it. I'm gonna continue to pick it up. And uh last but not least, we got X-Men, um Jed McKay, and I I've talked about X-Men while I enjoy this team very much. Um I enjoy the dynamic of this team, I enjoy the way they're written, I enjoy the way they interact with one another. We're still not really going anywhere with the X-Men. Um this book just continues to kind of stall and stall and stall. And like I was saying when we had our X-Men discussion a couple weeks ago, there's so many storylines that have been introduced so far from the beginning of this series that have not been resolved yet. And like it just kind of feels like we keep introducing new things and keep introducing new storylines, but we don't tie up any of the loose ends from the previous ones. So I I'm sticking with these books. I want to stick with these books because I'm an X-Men fan, but if nothing happens in these books eventually, I'm gonna have to drop them. And and that's the unfortunate part, is like I'm I've always been. So the two books that I never have dropped from my pull list are Spider-Man and X-Men. Those are the two books that for as long as I've been reading comics, good, bad, or indifferent, I pick up the books because those are my characters. Um and I'm just getting to the point where like I need something to happen with this book, I need a a resolution to some of these storylines, and I need to kind of get something bigger than what we're getting. And we discussed X-Men United is not it for me personally. I'm not gonna pick up second issue. I do not care what happens in that book going forward. So if if that's gonna be your focal, your main focal point X-Men book going forward, then like I'm sorry. That's you're not doing it for me. Um, there was one other book that I picked up, and it's not I I wouldn't I would not recommend picking this book up to anybody. Um I'm usually the biggest Kevin Smith fan. I go to his movie theater in Atlantic Highlands. I I really usually love all of the stuff that he writes. His Daredevil Black Cat Spider-Man story is one of my favorite Daredevil stories and black cat stories ever in existence. The evil that men do. Um, if you find it on Amazon, I highly recommend picking up that trade because it's absolutely fantastic. His Batman stuff is absolutely fantastic. This was Bizarro Year Run, and I was expecting a Bizarro book. I thought we were getting like an origin story of Bizarro, and I don't know what this was. Um I literally read it front to back, and when I got to the end of the issue, I was like, Why did I pick this up? I almost picked that up too.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:38

So I think Cardinal. So that's why I was like, is this kind of continuation of the thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:40:45

I thought this was just gonna be a one-shot. I thought this was just gonna be a one and done. Like, that's why I picked it up. Because I was like, all right, Kevin Smith writing a bizarre origin story. Yeah, why not? Let's give it a shot. I only had like four books this week anyway, so I was like, might might as well grab it. Um then I saw like, no, this is gonna be a mini and it's gonna go on for a couple issues, and I do not recommend picking this up. Um my last iteration of like the last iteration of Bizarro that we have seen in DC continuality. We saw Bizarro being part of Red Hood and the Outlaws. Um, that was part of the rebirth error. He was packaged as part of that team. Bizarro went through a lot of growth. We actually got to see some character development with the character, and I really loved it. Um, this is not that same iteration of the character. This is a very weird iteration of the character, and I don't understand how this is like an origin year one book. So I'm sorry, Kevin. You're you're a Jersey guy. I love you to death, but I I can't recommend this book to anybody. I have to spare anybody from even wasting their time reading it. Um but yeah, those so those are my my comics. Um Batman for me definitely was the the top book of the week. I I'm loving that series. Fraction is is absolutely killing it. George Jimenez on on art is just phenomenal. So yeah, I'm looking forward to what's gonna continue with this story and how Bruce is eventually gonna take down Vandal Savage and like take the city back, because that's where we're going with this, but I feel like they're really gonna draw that out for a while.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:20

Yeah, I can't wait to get into it. I I didn't get time to, but um I got it.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:25

So yeah. So uh now it's time for our other segment. What are we watching? So what are what are you watching this week? Or what have you watched? I could not wait to talk about this.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:36

Um, so you know, you haven't been a fan of it, but Vinvincible currently is right out right now, and this last episode right now, we just have not watched it.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:48

Sorry, yeah, you just haven't got it.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:52

Well, we just got to the scene where Mark um and Oliver and Omni Man come back and they re they they re meet uh Conquest, who has been one of the the vault the this is like the army of people who are gonna like that are like Invincible and are his people, the the Verndemites. Um he is like the big bad of one of the big bads of them all, and he almost killed uh Invincible last season. Um so we just got them fighting again right now, and the animation and the fighting that they're doing is insane. Like they they almost put Mortal Komic fatalities to fucking bed with the shit that they do in this show. Because oh my god, I'm just sitting there, I'm like, how are they still fighting? Like you are I don't want to spoil it for people, but like it is insane the type of shit that they're doing, and they're still going at it. Um, so definitely that was a good one.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:00

The season's been good so far. You've been enjoying this so far.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you know, they're winding down. The season, the whole series is about to end soon. So, like, right now we're getting like the hype stuff that you know most people talk about when you when you speak about Invisible.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:16

So uh see, I can't I can't wait for it to be over because once it's over, it means it's time for the boys, and like that's what I'm looking forward to. This is the boys. I can't wait for that to see that final season.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:29

Yeah, so I was really hype on that. And then obviously we had Daredevil. Um, and then that's pretty much it. Oh, then I've been also been watching Shrinking, who which has been great show. It's really it's really like a therapy session every time I watch it. And the this season has just been way too close to home. That is it's making me watch it because I'm actually learning from it too.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:51

Um have you um have you been watching uh Monarch?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:55

Oh my god, dude. Like I love that I love that show in the beginning, yeah, and I dropped it because it was just like it's more of the same. Like that character, uh that the Chinese girl, like daughter, she really ruined the show for me because she's always freaking complaining about stuff, and it's the same, it's things that I don't really care about what you're saying. And the the back and forth stuff, like where they go from future to past, is cool, but I really wish they were just saying the past. Like I can I I really wish they were saying the past because I like that history, I like the actors that are in that the past.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:33

I see I like seeing Wyatt Russell way more than seeing his father and and dealing with all that. I I just have not gotten around to watching any of this season. I keep hearing that like it's it's much better than season one, but I just have not I just have not tuned in to any of it. Um just simply not because I don't want to, just simply it's it's just hasn't been like a priority for me to to check out.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:58

Yeah, I checked in on it the other day to see where I was left off, and I'm on episode four. I just I've definitely seen one through three. And yeah, but that's pretty much everything I've been watching.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:09

Okay, so um over the last couple of days I watched something very bad is gonna happen on Netflix. Um it's a horror show that just came out. Um, it's all set around a woman who goes to, you know, she's about to get married to her longtime boyfriend and fiance, and the whole premise is like going to her her boyfriend's house and his family to get married. And it's in this little town, it's out in the middle of nowhere. The first couple episodes start off with like it being very much a horror show. You're not sure what's going on, it's kind of creepy, there's some weird shit going on, and then the show takes like a weird left where like it goes from being like a a horror show to more so like revolving around like this curse, and you see like this backstory of this girl and her her mom and her the way she was born, and like it all kind of unfolds. And for me, this would have been like I like the show. The the girl who everybody keeps saying is Dua Lipa. It's not Dua Lipa, it's it's a different actress. Um, she she's great, she is absolutely beautiful. She puts on a great performance throughout the whole entire show, and like kept she's what kept me intrigued in the show overall. Her and the the brother of her fiance. He's a very like cool character who like starts off as like a weird douchebag that you think like he's the weird one doing this shit, and then he ends up being like her biggest ally and like supporter in the whole entire show and becomes like her co-star essentially. Um it unfolds very weird. It's eight episodes, and I feel like if this was a movie and like we progressed through this as like a two-hour movie, it would have been a much better, you know, package that way. But the fact that it's eight episodes, probably when you get to episode three or four is when they do like the the the shift on you, and that like it's no longer what you thought it was, it becomes like a different type of show. I feel like they kind of just drag it out then for like a good four episodes before we get to the finale, and then the something bad that is gonna happen actually happens in the finale. Um but it's it's wild because like the whole thing could could have been avoided from like the jump. Like, once the girl finds out, you know, what the premise is and what's going on, she could have just packed her shit up and left and like end of story done, it's over, like there's no more to it. So while it was a a good show, I just like felt like it went on for too long. And had this been a movie, it would have been a much better condensed thing where they didn't have to like kind of beat and switch you a couple times. But um, it's worth checking out. Um, I also noticed that Netflix is getting like a huge influx of movies now all of a sudden. Like this week they dropped like 20 new movies that like were movie theater movies, so like the new Karate Kid is up. Um I watched Venom The Last Dance the other night because I had never seen the final Venom movie. Yeah, there was a bunch of different stuff that like they dropped in mass. So I'm wondering like who they did a deal with that they just got like this mash drop of movies coming in all of a sudden. But I'm interested to see like what other new stuff that's gonna be hitting. And apparently all of the Warner Brothers stuff is gonna be hitting Netflix, which I thought was weird. Like all the DC movies are coming to Netflix, but the I don't know. It doesn't make sense. It almost makes me again lead to my lead to my conspiracy theory that David Zasloff and uh Ted Serrano's from Netflix are in a partnership to fuck over David Ellison and Paramount. Like it just it's giving me that vibe, and and I kind of feel like that's the ultimate play from the two of them because I thought that was so weird of like so awesome. All of the DC animated movies and all of the DC live action movies are going to be on Netflix. Like okay. Yeah. It's a flex. That's crazy. That's a flex for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:11

I'm interested to see like how that's all gonna play out. But yeah, that's that I I'd recommend if you like horror stuff to check it out. It was a good watch. Um, but overall, for me, it for me, I got to the point where I was like, all right, come on, let's wrap it up. Like, let's let's get to the ending, let's get to the one thing. I even think I might have skipped one episode because I was just like, all right, I just want to get to the end of this and I want to see how it ends.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:34

I've been there before.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:36

But yeah, uh overall, I'm always into horror stuff, so I'm always constantly like watching new stuff that comes out, even if it's bad. Uh, because a lot of horror is like bad, but sometimes it's a good bad. So it's weird. Yeah. Yeah. But uh that'll do it for this week's episode of Talkin' Sups. I hope you guys enjoyed everything that we had to talk about. Um, like I said, please make sure to like, comment, subscribe. Leave us a five-star review if you're on iTunes or Spotify. Uh, we're working on getting the video on Spotify. We're trying to figure out how we can do that. Uh our the way we upload the show hasn't given us that option yet, but we're working on it. Also trying to work on getting the video up on um on Apple Podcasts once that's available to do. So we're trying our best, but uh the main place you can go is YouTube backslash at talk and soups. Uh that is our main YouTube channel now. You can find all of the video for the episodes there, as well as our shorts. And me and Andy were talking about maybe splitting up some other segments of this show, maybe our comics of the week and putting them up as like a segment that you could just watch on YouTube and stuff like that. So we're kicking around different ideas, we're we're trying out different things to continue to get more people to listen to the show. But we really appreciate all the support and everybody tuning in every week.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:57

Yep. Thank you guys, and um, yep, this is talking soups. So in that case, peace.