Why Watching Mando& grogru a Second Time Hit Different.

Ep 21 is crazy to even say IT! so thank you all that have tuned in and supported In this episode we dive right into with. 

• How the recent Mandalorian movie was designed as an entry-level blockbuster, and what that means for future spin-offs
• The surprising box office numbers of horror movies created by youthful directors, and what this says about the next wave of cinema support from younger audiences.
• Why Marvel’s X-Men series is poised for a massive second season, with new character inclusions like Colossus’s & magic

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Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Talkin' Supes. I'm Ed from Ways of the Sith. And I'm on the Gatu. I almost messed that up. What's good? He's always late, folks. If you're just tuning in, this is a running back, and I want to put 21 episodes in and the timing may not be better. Yo 21 episodes is crazy though. That's now you just say that. Like this is crazy. Thank you guys for tuning in for 21 weeks we've been doing this so far. Thank you guys. You know, the numbers every week we seem to get new people checking it out and and tuning in and new comments and stuff like that. So it's really cool. We appreciate it. Hope to just keep things going and keep this rolling along. This week we have a a a lot to talk about. More in-depth conversations, I would say, than just like tidbits. Um but yeah, there's a lot of stuff to talk about. But I so you know, last week we did our full-blown Mandalorian discussion. We we went through the whole entire movie scene by scene and and broke it all down. I actually went last night and saw it again for a second time. And I gotta say, I think it I think it improved the movie for me seeing it a second time. My a few of my gripes and a few of my things that I thought lagged in the movie, I actually didn't mind, I guess, as much this time around simply because like I knew they were coming and I knew it was gonna how it was gonna play out. The swamp scene for me still doesn't need to be there. Like that whole scene can be cut down to just Grogu having a vision and and learning something from his past, and then we learn something in turn about Grogu that helps us, you know, continue the story. Um that was my tidbit of the movie where like I still have an issue with that part. Also, something that I thought about that is kind of funny is that Radha so so Radha's dad got killed by Luke, right? Radha got saved by Anakin. So Radha knows you know the Skywalker family, and he'll he'll put two and two together when like he meets Luke. So do we eventually get like Rada the Hutt meeting the guy who killed his or well, I guess it's Leia, right? Leia's the one who killed who strangled him. So like does Rada eventually cross paths with Leia and is like, oh, like is he just cool with her? Like, oh yeah, you killed my father, like thank you, or is it like a a meme character? I I literally did not think about that until I left the theater last night, and I was just like, huh, wait a minute. Anakin saved Rada as a child with Ahsoka, and then Luke and Leia are the ones that killed Jabba. So would he be mad at them in theory, or like would does he not care? I I don't know. Right, right, yeah, that would be insane. I don't I don't know, and I didn't think about that too until you just told me that. That's that's a good one. It it didn't it didn't cross my mind literally until like I was leaving the theater and driving home last time. I was like, wait a minute, and just put kind of two and two together. And I was like, I wonder, so like obviously if he's working for the new republic, like he's gonna meet both of them at some point. So like is he cool with them or is there gonna be a problem down the line, like for Rada? So I'm I'm a little worried about that, um, maybe potential plot hole, I guess. Not a fact, but um yeah, so I I did enjoy the movie much much better the second time around. And um for me, I went with somebody who's not like she she's a Star Wars fan, she's watched all the movies and most of the shows and stuff like that, but as far as like the the cartoons and stuff, she's not like a she hasn't like dove in. She's seen a couple episodes, but like isn't familiar with like all of the lore. Um and for her that's kind of like me, because I never watched all the all the rebel stuff, but I mean I've seen some of the I've seen a good part of the Cologne War stuff. So that's a good person to go with. So uh her reaction was was like it made the movie more enjoyable for me because like she had a blast, she was laughing through all of the stuff. She loved Grogu, she loves the uh the Anzelans. The only person the only person I had to explain to her who who it was was Zeb. Um, because again, there's no introduction to the character. And I don't I I think like I want to say like she's watched a couple episodes of Rebels, but maybe like still wasn't like, oh, and connected the dots. So once I said it, she was like, oh, okay. And like she remembered him from the the cameo he made at the end of season three of Mando. So like I guess that was the the thing that clicked for. But um yeah, I I I had a lot of fun again watching it. I I took a lot of flack on Twitter. I I had all of these red hat wearing motherfuckers coming in my mentions, like trying to talk shit to me about bigging up the movie and that I'm a paid Disney show. Disney doesn't pay us. Um what we've been we've been very critical about like the promotion for this movie, the rollout for this movie, our our thoughts on how this movie overall was gonna perform. I I like I said, I've enjoyed the movie. I I enjoyed it more the second time I watched it. And once it hits Disney Plus, like I feel a lot of people are gonna love this movie when it hits Disney Plus. Like, if when they can watch it at home and they can watch it with their families and get the chance to like re-watch it and sit with it, I I think a lot of people are gonna be singing a different tune about it overall. Now, is it the greatest Star Wars movie ever made? No, not not by a stretch. Um, this was the safest Star Wars movie that they could have made in this point in time. For all the flack that they've taken from a lot of the TV shows, from a lot of the things that have kind of they've tried and failed. This was their attempt at doing something that could get well received. And I got the numbers here in front of me. We'll we'll talk about it. So in the first week, it made 98 million domestically and 63 million international. Now, take into account they had the four-day weekend with the holiday, so those numbers skew a little bit differently. Um, you're also getting a bigger audience because it is a holiday. In the second week, though, they were only able to gross 25 million. Um, and that includes this weekend with with early prediction numbers, including today. Um the budget for the movie was 165 million. They made that back. So they made that back, um, but it had a 69.4% drop-off in in one week, which doesn't say a lot. Um it crossed 240 million overall after after today's projections, roughly give or take, 240 million overall. Um that is low for a Star Wars movie. Um, Star Wars movies usually come a lot closer to the billions than than they do just a couple hundred million based on like the projections, like we said, the the budget. Um, there's also a marketing budget that that we're not including in that 165 million. So give or take, maybe add another 20 million to the marketing budget. They still came over and they still have made a profit off of this movie. Um, I guess it all depends on your viewpoint, how you view this movie, if if you view it as a success or if you view it as a failure. Um, I'm not sure how Lucasfilm in this new regime is gonna view this as I know they have Toy Story coming, I know they have Moana 2 coming. Those movies probably are gonna do huge, gigantic numbers. Um, so I I don't know where this falls on Disney's scheme of like, does do they view this as a success? Because they they did, you know, make this for a significantly less amount of money, and they they they are making money off of it. Come DVD sales, toy sales, merchandising, all the other stuff that comes in from this movie. I I don't know. Like, old regime probably would have viewed this as a as a as a failure. New regime might view this as a success. I and that's what I'm kind of wondering. Like, what are your thoughts about that and seeing like phenomenon? And also, but I just I feel like because of them taking the the risk of it being being more safe and knowing that not a lot of anticipation for what's to come or or you know things of that nature. This might be a success because it's like we wanted to give you guys a movie about Mando and Grogu just as like black and white as it can be, and I think they they executed on that. Um, but as far as the fans experience that is like the diehard Star Wars fan and things of that nature, I just feel like they expected more. So um, yeah, I I don't know. Like it's it's a very sticky situation. I I think from them their perspective, based on what they put out, I I would say I would think they think it's is a success because they they did what they wanted to do, like they didn't want to take too much risk on this, and they made money off of it too. So and and that was something that like my friend had said yesterday when we watched the movie. She was even kind of like, Well, um, why was there no thrawn? Why didn't they connect that? Why didn't they acknowledge like some of the other stuff that was going on? Where were some of the other characters? And so, like, that's what I was kind of explaining to her. Is like they played it really safe, they decided that they were not gonna include that, and we could talk about Dave Faloni's comments about that. Um, he actually came out and said that originally when they were charting this as season four, the plan was to heavily integrate that into the the season. Um, sorry, my my washing machine is going off in the background if you could hear that. Um but they had fully planned to integrate Thrawn and and the Mandalorian stuff and the Boba Fett stuff and all of that into season four. When they changed over to the movie, basically all of that stuff was scrapped and thrown out in order to make this movie basically be an entry-level movie for most people that you could come in without going back and watching the TV show, without watching all of the Disney Plus stuff, and just enjoy the movie. And that's what I feel they did. Like, I I feel like they delivered with that in in the sense of things, you know what I mean? And I don't know. I personally, again, based off the numbers, based off everything, like I would view this as a success for them. Um but I I don't know if if they're gonna view it that way. I don't know if they're gonna look at everything and and you know see if this is a good thing. Yeah, it's an interesting situation. Come down to Ahsoka season two now and and how that goes, if all of those plans are tied up in in Ahsoka season two, do they wrap this all up with Ron? Do they go through all of that? I I I don't really know. I'm gonna insert the video here, but I'm gonna talk about it too. Um the well, I was recently at Fan Expo, and the actor who plays the the stunt actor, I should say, who plays both um Mandalorian. Um thank you. Uh Brandon Williams. Um they they asked him a question of fan and they asked him like, what do you think the the the the longevity of Mandel and like what will we see more of him and his character going forward? And what his response was basically that we like he knows that there will be more. Um like he's saying like to the audience, you guys don't know, but I know that there is more to come with the character. And as he started talking more, um Bubba Fett, uh, the guy who plays Bubble Fett, um, he starts to tell him, talk to your people. He says, talk to your people. Are you talking to your people? And then he just stopped talking after that. So if I don't have you can be here, because again, again, watching that watching that back again in the movie theater again last night, that was my biggest thought of like Boba Fenneck, uh Cursanton, Cobb Vant, them showing up at the end versus the directors were it would have been the much better choice for the movie. Um even if even if people didn't, even if people hadn't watched Book of Boba Fett, they would have saw the slave one, they would have saw Boba Fett, and they would have known who he was. It wouldn't have mattered. You could ask questions about who are the other people in the ship or or what's this other two ships that are with him with these other characters. But you go back and watch Boba then after you watch this. It's that wouldn't have been a big deal to me. Um I really watch it watching it back last night, my gripe with Sigourney Weaver really I think it got a little worse because it does seem like she's just kind of walking her way through the whole movie. Like there's no emotion on her face, there's no no anything to her character. Even when Mando comes back with the guy from the Imperial, you know, when he when he does the double cross on the twins and like brings Rada back and brings brings Jono uh Jono in. Fucking she just kind of like delivers that in such a monotone, just like there's no nothing on her face, it's just straight face the entire time. And maybe it was to like kind of swerve some of us that were under the belief that maybe she was gonna turn, maybe that was their thought process. Like, we kind of want people to think that she might be working for Throne, or she still might be for all we know, and just haven't gotten there yet. But but as far as like her movie experience, her her movie uh performance, as to say, she when we got the announcement that she was gonna be in the movie at Star Wars celebration when she was in Japan, like they they made like they they had her all over like the spot, like as they should, because years was years, but like her on the entire promo tour too, like front and center with Pedro. And like for her uh for what she said, she was only on set for a couple days and filmed all of her stuff and like was gone, and that's it. So like you could tell. And that's like the same scenario with Pedro, too. Yeah, that's like the same scenario that happened with Pedro where he was only there for that snake, that dragon snake scene, probably. And the guy, the guy you met, Brendan Wayne, is the one who is Mando. Like, he's the reason Mando walks the way he he is like walks the way he does. He's the reason Mando has like the body posture and the the swagger that he does, because that's all Brendan Wayne. That's that's John Wayne integrated into his blood. Like he's the grandson of the great John Wayne. So like it it comes across when you're watching him on screen versus like and you could tell the difference when it's Latif a little bit in some of the action stuff, and then you know, when it's Pedro, you can you can see like he's only there for to take the helmet off, and that's it. And like that so a lot of credit is owed to Brendan Wayne. I'm glad that him and Latif both got top billing along with Pedro in the movie, like they're the top three billings in the movie, and then everybody else falls underneath. Um my friend was wondering, she's like, Who is Jeremy Allen White playing? And then when we got to it, and she was like, Oh my god, yeah, this is this is great. So, yeah, I I had a great time, I really enjoyed it. I think she did too. So, like for me, that that just made it even better, like watching, and like I kept like looking over to see like her reaction or and like at first we thought we were gonna be the only ones in the theater when we got the tickets and like went to sit down. The guy was like, Well, so far you got the theater to yourself, and I was like, Oh, this will be fun, because then like we could talk back and forth the whole entire time. And there there ended up being like I think six other people that like came into the theater like before right before as the movie was starting. But we still like were talking just because like they were sitting away from us, so it didn't really but um yeah, it was fun. I I enjoyed it. Like I said, I would recommend watching it. I would recommend when it comes out on Disney Plus checking it out because it's it's a fun movie, and especially if you have kids, if you're if you like your family, this is a Star Wars movie you could sit down with your family and watch. It's not anything that you know, too graphic, too anything. It it just it works. I I and that's how I that's how I felt, and I think I wrote this on Letterboxd. Like, I just feel like it's a perfect movie to take your family to on the weekend if you just need something something to do, like literally perfect fan. If you want to have fun for two hours and and like zone out and not think about anything, go watch this movie and you'll have a good time. Like just go in, even if you're not a Star Wars fan, you go in with just the mindset of like this is a space western, and I'm watching a space western, and you know, you know Yoda, you know Gorogu from seeing merchandising and stuff like that. It's I don't know to me, like I feel like this is just a mass appeal movie for most people, and it's unfortunate that like it didn't do more than you know what we thought, but we kind of knew from the promo and we knew from everything going in that this the audience might not be there for this. There's no lightsabers in it, there's no you know, not the things that most people associate with Star Wars. And at this point, I think outside of Ray, there's nobody anybody even like recognizes in Star Wars anymore, like besides maybe Grogu. So yeah, we'll see. I I don't know if they'll come back and do a second movie. Um, I don't know. My guess would more than my guess would be more than likely season four. Or I I still kind of hope Falone just gets to move forward with his movie and like after Ahsoka season two, we get we get Falone's movie Greenlit with this thrawn thing. We end this era if that's what we're gonna do. Like if if they're banging it all on Starfighter and moving forward to that post-sequel trilogy era, then do the Falone movie and wrap this up and put a nice bow on it and like give us the big moments, give us the Luke Khan and Leia moment, and you know, kind of appease the fans that have stuck with you and and you know, help this era. Went through the trenches, yes. And give us something to hang our and be like, all right, cool. We got aired in the empire movie, and and here it is, and here's the big battle with Ron, here's the big thing with Luke on and Leia, and that's it. You know what I mean? Speaking, uh I'll just talk about it now since we're in like a Star Wars section. Um, we lost Marsha Lucas this past weekend. Oh my gosh. At 80 years old, unfortunately. Those of you guys that don't know, she was George's uh first wife. Um, she was the one who edited all three of the Star Wars movies. So, like, Star Wars isn't Star Wars without her. Her her name was kind of erased from history for a long time, but um, thanks to uh icons on earth, their documentary was able to actually sit down with her and get her whole version of the story. There's a great Star Wars documentary on uh Amazon to go check out if you haven't watched it. And basically, you you learn, like, you know, the the tweak she made to the movie and the things she suggested and the the behind-the-scenes issues that she dealt with that eventually led to her and George getting divorced. And her and George have not spoken in all of this time. The the sad part was that and that that's that's kind of what I was thinking about when I saw this news. The sad part was the day before George was posting all kinds of shots from his brand new museum that's about to open in Los Angeles, and in every picture with him was his brand new wife. Um, and so like it was kind of ironic that like all of these pictures, George is celebrating his new achievement, this this museum, and like here's his new wife in all of the pictures, and then Marsha dies the next day. So I thought that was a very like tragic way, almost like you know, her that that had to hurt her. And I know like she said in the documentary that she still loved him after all these years, like they were together for all that time. So thoughts and prayers to to her family and um may she rest in peace. Yeah. Without her, without her editing skills, without her contributions, we don't have Star Wars, all three movies, the original films, the way they are. Um, she played that much of a role on those films and fixed a lot of things that that needed to be fixed and and hit it in the editing. So um, yeah, the thoughts and prayers to uh her entire family. Most definitely thoughts and prayers, condolences. Um, we did get some news regarding Jedi Survivor 3. Um I don't know if that's gonna be the title, obviously, of the last one. Um Fallen Order was the first one, Survivor was the second one, and then whatever this third one is gonna be. But apparently they are working on it currently, they are trying to get that done. And Dave Falone did say that we're gonna get more Cal Kestas stuff planned at Lucasfilm. So I don't know if that involves tales, like a tales maybe arc revolving around Cal. I don't know if that means he is in Ahsoka season two, because that's kind of what I want to see. I want to see him and Marin be incorporated into this whole Thrawn story because it it makes sense with her being a Knight Sister and now Thrawn resurrecting all of the Knight Sisters, like where does her lot loyalty lie? Does she go back to the the Knight Sisters? Does she stay with Cal and fight against her family? Like I think that just adds more to the overall story. And I'd love to see Cal and and Ezra be able to like pair off of each other. You know, with Ahsoka and Sabine being in Paridia, it would be cool to for for Ezra to find another Jedi. Like if it's not gonna be Grogu, it would be cool for it to be Cal and like him and Cal pal around. You know what I mean? Mm hmm. Yeah, that would that would be dope. 'Cause they do have some Similar things like that, like their stories are kind of are kind of like similar in in a way. Um, but I would lose my shit if he if he shows up in live action in Ahsoka because oh my god, I I I love the games and I love his character and Cameron Moynihan going forward would be great. Yeah, Cameron Moynihan is a Cameron Moynihan is a fantastic actor from Shameless, from Gotham, from everything else he's done. So, like to get him to play Cal in live action and just continue this story out, I would be a hundred percent here for that. I I I like I said, I just think him and Meren fit so well into this thrawn story that it's like an easy layup. Whatever you do with this final game, to get them involved in live action at this point, I think it it's it's perfect. It works out, you know, and it it's all there for you to do. Just don't fuck it up. Um there was also some reports that Sam Whitwer is gonna be appearing in live action in another Star Wars project. The possibility is Ahsoka, um, because he did play the Sun in the Mortis arc. Um, we know we're getting Mortis as a big thing as a part of Ahsoka season two, so there's definitely a possibility that like he shows up in live action playing the sun. There's also a possibility that Starkiller could be involved in in Ahsoka season two or something else coming forward. Um I still think there's money on the table for Starkiller and and for his story, however they want to do it, whether they they want it to be like a flashback, flash forward type show, or they just do it as like an hour one-shot, like a Punisher special, I would be here for it just to kind of show us like what happened to him and and where he is and like tell the story of the Vader's secret apprentice. I still think it all works with canon. I don't think it's all it especially the fact that they added the inquisitors in. I think instead of just making him instead of just making him Vader's like sole apprentice, he was one of the inquisitors that Vader actually like took a liking to, and then you kind of just change the story slightly that way. That was the whole thing when Ahsoka came out that they were trying to say that one scene where you we first see that that inquisitor versing her. Yeah, everybody thought Maroc. They thought it was Starkiller. Yeah, yeah. It would have been cool, it would have been cool reveal. Um we still haven't seen who Maroc actually is, it still hasn't been revealed like who he is, even in um uh mall. So there's always that possibility. I don't think it's gonna be Maroc. I think if they were gonna do it, it'd be more his Star Killer armor. We did see his Star Killer armor in Andor. It's in Luthan Rail's shop in Andor. Um, so that was a cool like little Easter egg that was in the background. But I I'm here for it. I'm here for for Sam doing whatever. I know he did a voice or two for Mandalorian, like he's credited as one of the voice actors. There, there was a big voice actor cast as part of it. Um, him and and Matt Barry and a lot of the people that have just been doing Star Wars voices forever. They they try to get them involved in as many projects as they can. And when you have somebody like Sam who's like super talented, it's it's super easy to fit him in and just hey, can you do a voice for this? Sure, why not? And you know, just go from there. Um that's good when you have an in-house production like that. You just grab whoever you need. I think like that's that's the cool thing about especially like the animation side of Lucasfilm and like the behind the scenes side. I think if you work like if you work on the animated shows, if you work on some of the projects that they're working on, and you're they should you show that like you have a love for this, you have a passion for this, I think you have a job for life. Like they continuously bring back the same voice actors to play different characters. They've you know, there's certain people like Sam, who's like been part of Star Wars for like the past 15-20 years now at this point. So like it's insane when you really think about it, and um, it just goes to show that like there are a lot of people for all the flack and all the shit people talk online. There are a lot of people that actually like care about Star Wars and want to see it be successful, and and that comes across when you see these people like working behind the scenes and doing the things that they're doing. Something we talked about last week was the Simon Kinberg trilogy and alluded to the possible fact of that being the next thing after Starfighter. Um, it's been something that has been in the works for the past couple years. It's just we haven't really gotten a lot of movement on it. It's just that we knew these movies were being written after all the race stuff kind of fell through. Now it seems that after we talked about it, I'm not gonna say that we're the ones who broke the story, but I didn't hear anybody else talking about this until we speculated about it. And then a couple days later, after our podcast came out, I saw all these outlets like running with the story that Kinberg's trilogy is episodes 10, 10, 11, and 12. And I do think that is the fact. Um, it's just I I I really do think the best route, like if you're not gonna do the Feloney movie, then the best route is to take all of these Mando characters and Mandoverse characters, Ahsoka, all of that, bring them with Ray, and there's your your 10, 11, and 12. I I think I think that's what we're getting essentially, then with what whatever comes of Starfighter. It seems like they are really betting the farm on Starfighter going forward. Um so it's gonna be interesting to see Star Wars celebration this year, and and what they actually announce, and you know, if if they're gonna come out and reveal all this, if they're gonna like we were saying, the only things on the table for this next year is Ahsoka season two, Starfighter movie, and mall season two. That's all we have that we know is coming. I do know there's another Tails season that's coming. I just don't know when. I don't know if that's a 2027 thing or if that might be before the end of this year that we get Tails. If if I'm them, I would stop focusing on Star Wars Visions. I know you're an anime guy, but most Star Wars fans do not give a shit about Star Wars Visions. Um, it's just its own fucking thing to appeal to one small demographic of people. I'm cool without that. I like Star Wars animation all being one animation style. Like we don't need the anime and this and that. Keep the you've perfected now this animation style with Maul, all the shows need to have this style. I like that most times when they do come out with that animation stuff, uh at least we all we're getting I I'm okay with options. So you give me you give me your main stuff, which is this detail stuff where I know there's like a concluity, but just for like a fan theory and almost like how Marvel does what if to see those animations like that, I I it's fun, it's cool. I I dig it. So I mean I wouldn't say stop it, but it's just good to have as an option. Yeah, I just I think you're you're not you're wasting money, you're paying all the money to get this done and people aren't watching it because like I said, most Star Wars fans don't care about anime, like that's not Star Wars for most people. So the I don't think like if you're trying to cut back and you're trying to not spend money on stuff that people don't watch, don't just cut that vision's completely out of here and just move forward with the other. But when you think about them just having Star Wars celebration in Japan, they've probably I don't know the numbers, but they probably see numbers that are showing that you know the demographic over there likes Star Wars. Yeah. So they're probably like let's give something that they did like. But the majority of the people that went to Star Wars celebration in Japan were were people from other countries. That was the problem, is that they sold so many tickets to so many people from all over the place that came to Japan for Star Wars celebration. That's why Star Wars Celebration Japan was so overcrowded and you couldn't really do a lot there. Um Star Wars and Japan go way back. Celebration's been there multiple times. Um Japan's always been a big market for Star Wars. Japan was a big market for this Mandalorian movie. Um I just for me that the if if you're trying to cut back on things that don't matter and trying to save yourself money, visions is the first thing on the cutting room floor for me. Oh well, they gave us uh I at this point now, because they already gave two seasons of it. I think I've seen everything I wanted to see out of it. So yeah, you know, definitely it's enough. And I never want to see them do a Star Wars what-up show. Like, never, never. Um, they did the comics a couple times. It's cool, but I don't need it. Like stuff that only matters to continuality and move forward. Whatever you're gonna do. I still think you know, a Luke Skywalker, Leia, Han, Chewy animated show would be the next thing after them all to do, you know, if you don't want to do them in live action. Um, but I don't know. I I I'm very interested to see what they end up announcing next year at Celebration, what the plan is going forward after Starfighter, because I think that's what most fans are looking forward to at this point. Um they even said during this promotional run that Starfighter is the thing that they're kind of banking on moving the franchise forward with. And and as we've speculated multiple times, I think that goes to back to Ray, and then whatever else they have planned to go forward from there. So, yeah, definitely. I mean, we said it last week, it makes sense. Put them, put everything together and let's just move it forward. We've already got a recipe for the what we like. I think Mando was just the like, not even the cherry on top, like it was just like the appetizer. So, like now let's get to the main course. It was it was the test room, it was it was to see how fans were gonna react. And now that they know how fans reacted, they can move forward without like breaking the fan base, like the sequel trilogy did. The sequel trilogy broke the fan base down the middle. Um, you're either a sequel fan or you're not. It's not it's not a it's not like the prequels where like some people might not like the prequels, but you still watch them as part of Star Wars. You still acknowledge them as as episodes one, two, and three, you know, four, five, and six. A lot of fans that don't like the sequels don't acknowledge you know them as being part of the Skywalker saga. It's just like fuck those movies, I'm never watching them again. They don't exist to me. Yeah. So I think if you're if you're making the firm statement going forward that you're coming back for 10, 11, and 12, whether it reshuffles them and and they end up being like I could see a scenario too where the Kinberg trilogy is this felone y thrawn trilogy, and we're actually gonna kick the sequels back three movies, you know what I mean, and fit this new trilogy in. If I could see that being a scenario, but I think the the best case scenario for them at this point is people know Ray. You have to introduce you've introduced Grogu now to a mass audience, you have to introduce these other characters to a mass audience and get us to a point where like you can get them all together on screen and and flush out whatever story you're trying to tell at this point and and make it happen. Because if you're just gonna play it safe, Star Wars is in trouble, and and we we need something that's gonna you know get that that mark. Move us in continuity. And and and I see people talking about it all the time about oh, we want to go to a whole newer era, go to like a hundred years after the sequel trilogy and do something totally new. I don't want to see that. Like, I'm sorry. For me, Star Wars is the Skywalkers, for me, Star Wars is the Jedi and these characters that we've grown and and loved for all these years. Them jumping a hundred years in the future and creating all new characters doesn't really interest me. It doesn't do it for me. Like I would at the that's why I kind of didn't like watching um what was that that that Star Wars show they just came out that's like the Goonies, but Star Wars version um Skeleton Crew, yeah. I I didn't really enjoy that one because that one felt like it was in the future too, and I was just like well it was. It was part of the Mandarin, they're in the suburbs and stuff, like it was part of the Mando verse, and Jude Law is is supposed to play a role going forward. I don't know if he's going to, but he was basically gonna play a role with Ron and and what they had planned going forward. Um, if you look at the map that Star Wars released, Dathimir and that planet at Atten, now that that the way skeleton crew ended, that shield around At Atten came down. At Atten is right next to Dathomir on a map, so they're literally in the same system with one another. And the fact that Thrawn now will know that this planet exists that has all of this money and all these Republic credits on it, I could very easily see a scenario where like that was gonna be part of their plan and they were gonna roll that all in, but now I don't know because Skeleton Crew didn't have the viewership to come back and get a second season. I know there was a lot of people clamoring for one, but it's not coming back. They they're they've they would have announced it by now that like they had plans for for that. There's still the possibility you see Jude Law come back in in all of this. Um, I wouldn't be shocked to see at Atten play a role in the whole thrawn thing, considering Dathomir is right next to it. Like I said, there's there's gotta be a purpose for that. There's a reason they introduced all of the things that they introduced in Skeleton Crew. So I I I would still maybe hold hold out that you might see those characters again someday, but you might not. I don't I don't care if I do or if I don't. I don't either. Um yeah, Jude, Jude Law replacing Joris Sabayath would be a cool thing because like I don't think they're gonna do the whole like clone Luke thing. Like to me, that I hate that storyline of Heir to the Empire, and that would be the big chunk of shit that I would leave out if I'm doing air to the empire. Like, like I said to you from the beginning, for me, the Thrawn story was the Timothy Zon Thrawn story that was established in the novels. They should have moved forward with the Grisk and and that and the Yusong Vong or whatever you wanted to do, but that's the story that I was more interested in. The fact that they're going with Heir to the Empire from the Legends canon, that whole cloning Luke and having this other Jedi that was out there that like get rid of all of that shit, um, and just make it Jude Law's character being the the Jedi that Thrawn can use to to play upon and fight against Luke, like that would be that would be fine. That works. Um I I think I'm hoping to get rich, like he's the perfect candidate to to be that character for the live action stuff. So I I still would wouldn't wouldn't be shocked to see Jude Law come back at all um in whatever you know they have planned going forward. Something that we've been talking about and clamoring about for a long time now is X-Men season two of 97. Uh we have the official trailer that came out now. We had talked about it last week or the week before the leak trailer that came out. This is actually a different trailer than the leak trailer that came out. Um so we have the official trailer, it was officially released, it was announced that July 1st it will be on Disney Plus. It's gonna debut at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York City, um, I believe the that weekend before. So I think the Tribeca is the the end of June. So it'll debut there, and then July 1st we'll we'll get the first episode or first two episodes, however, they're gonna drop the premiere. It doesn't look like they're doing I was hoping for a Saturday morning release. I was hoping that they were gonna move this to a Saturday schedule and just drop it, drop it, drop it Saturday mornings, and let us enjoy the nostalgia of like watching this on a Saturday morning when we wake up. Um you're not doing that. It looks like it's gonna be on a Monday. Monday, okay. Yeah. Well, they're taking the more spot. But the the whole thing is it's it's gonna drop at that weird three o'clock in the morning time slot. So it's not gonna be, you know, it's gonna be like watch when you want to watch it. I I like I still think Disney Plus needs to adopt that method of like dropping it the night before at appointment viewing at nine o'clock at night or eight o'clock at night, where like you can get a large majority of your audience to come and watch the show because that's missing from a lot of this streaming stuff is like appointment viewing. Like, hey, if we're gonna have the world premiere of this show, let's get people to watch it. And to me, that's something that they do that like is just a miss for me that I would like to see them adapt differently. They only do it when it comes to certain shows, and then like it turns it almost like bites them in the ass. Like they did it for Daredevil, but then they only did it. They did it the first week, and then they they changed it, you know what I mean? Like, I you got to keep that schedule if that's the way you're gonna do even with Maul, like Maul, I would much rather if if it dropped at nine o'clock at night or eight o'clock at night, and I could watch the episode at nighttime rather than you know having to get up before work and watch it at five o'clock in the morning or four o'clock in the morning because I don't want to be spoiled throughout the day. So I I have to get the show in or watch it on my drive-in to work because I want to watch the show and avoid any kind of spoilers. And I did that with X-Men a couple times last season, where like I was watching it on my drive-in to work, had my camera, you know, had my phone mounted, and was like listening to it in headphones as I was driving, just trying to get the episode in before you know I got spoiled on the internet. So I love this trailer though. This trailer looks fucking awesome, and I I cannot wait for season two. Yeah, man. Like, we get in fucking Colossus in this, and looks like he's magic is in it too. Like that's that right there is put me on. Which scared me because it's like, did you kill Ileana in this already? Like, fuck you. Or we is that a flashback of Colossus watching her go to limbo for the first time? Like, I hope there's a story point to that, because if they kill magic, I'm gonna be fucking pissed. I want her part of this team and part of this show. Facts, man. And um, yeah, because speaking of magic, just real quick, I've I've noticed her popularity go through the roof in the last two years. And and I don't know if it's because of rivals or what it is, but like I've been seeing nothing but so much magic. Partly due to rivals. Um, she's a very popular character. She was one of the first characters they introduced when the game dropped. Um, but Ileana's become a popular character just in comics alone. Like, she's front and center X-Men team since probably I would say like the last the last eight years, nine years, like where she her popularity skyrocketed to where like she's on the main X-Men team every every book. Yeah, I know she had a lot to do with X-Force too, so that's that's awesome. She's getting more popularity like that. She's part of like the new mutants and then like the Claremont era, her story is really important and big during the Claremont era. Like, that's when she ends up dying as like a as a younger kid when she's part of the new mutants team, and then ends up, you know, kind of going through limbo, going through that whole story, and then becoming the character that she is now. So to me, that's the that's the really cool part about her, and I think that's why people connect to her, is because all the things she's endured, the the the story, just the fact that it's a kick-ass female, and like the way she's being written now in the comics, she's the bash brother with Juggernaut, essentially. Um something was going on where we were lagging on our end, so there will be an edit here on the video and the audio section. But um, yeah, Magic's popularity in the last couple years has really grown, and she's been a main focal point of the X-Men team, which has been so cool. I personally love her as a character. I want to see her in live action. I would love to see Anya Taylor Joy come back and play her again. So the fact that she's a part of this season. Oh my god, great. Um, the fact that Polaris is getting top billing, front and center, is huge for me. Yeah, it looks like there's gonna be a huge arc with her going throughout this whole season and like being the daughter of Magneto, dealing with her father, dealing with the past. There's a great shot of her coming back into the X-Mansion and looking at the photos that are on the counter, and there's a photo of her Gene and Storm all together from like the original team, which is really cool. And there's a photo of her and Bobby together, which goes back to the original series of her and Bobby dating at one point and Bobby being in love with her. I don't know if Bobby's gonna be in this show or not. Um, I don't know if they're gonna end up making him gay like he is in the comics. So I but the fact that they're showing the picture and having that storyline be, you know, kind of referenced again is is really cool for me. I just I love that when I saw that in the trailer. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember if I remember seeing him in that in that picture in the last season where they showed all the X-Men that were alive, but I don't remember if he was the if he had like if he was shaded or it was not shaded where if to incline that he was alive or not. He's not shown on any of the teams. But I do remember seeing his name. Yeah, he's not shown in any of the team shots that like we've seen that have leaked so far. So that leads me to believe that they probably didn't have him come back, which is kind of bum because I I I love that Angel's part of this season, but the fact that Bobby should have been kind of part of this too would have been a lot more fun, especially with the Lorna storyline. Uh, but I love that it looks it looks like she's going from X Factor to being part of like the modern day team to eventually being part of like the Morrison iteration of the team later on at the end of this season because she's one of the people in the Morrison suits with Rogue and Gene and Cyclops. So the final shot though of apocalypse like through past, present, and future, and then you get all of the squads and all of the teams like kind of arriving is really cool. I love the shot of of Jean Gene being behind Scott and Gene's using her powers to telepathically make Logan Claws. I love that. I thought that was such a fucking cool shot because that is from the Morrison era, um, and Frank Quietly, which I I love that issue when she does that. But yeah, I I'm I'm here for it. I cannot wait. I love that we're getting Quentin Choir and Monet, too. We talked about it. About that last week or the week before. Uh cable being a big part of this season again, which is gonna be fucking awesome. Bishop, uh Jubilee, Sunspot. Like, yeah, I'm I'm here for it all. Um I I I am, I guess, uh yeah, I'm really interested to see how they're gonna do this dynamic and how they're gonna tell multiple stories through different things, if they're gonna focus on certain teams for certain episodes and or like jump back and forth, like we're gonna get an episode in the past, an episode in the present, an episode in the future, or if we're gonna get like jumping around as we're watching each episode. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting for sure. I can't wait. Um, yeah, like it's like we said, like with the Polaris thing. I'm glad that we're finally getting her in this because um in this with Magneto in conjunction with what Dombin main characters, because uh that live action show that they did when she was in it, I don't I don't really think that they we got to see that in dynamics so I feel like the gifted, yeah. The gifted. It's not a fucking X-Men show. That's that's a that's a weird Fox era X-Men show when when Marvel wasn't trying to use the X-Men, so don't ever acknowledge any of the characters from that. That is not canon X-Men. Um you know what I mean. Like, I know I know she was they were trying to show her off, but yeah. I wouldn't be shocked to see Magneto die in this season either, and like her having to deal with that and like kind of take his place on the team. That could be a scenario like that I could very easily see them doing, um, and her having to deal with like maybe not getting to confront Magneto or not getting to have that actual conversation with him. I I just I love that she's gonna be a big part of this. Um I really love all the other characters that they have in, and I'm very interested to see, like we talked about it, if it's if it's gonna be Betsy or Koanen as Silock, and and it looks like they are gonna play the Archangel love story, like between the two of them. It's just I don't know which one they're actually gonna use. Like in the comics, it's Betsy, but they're they're both technically in the body. I wanna say season one canon was that it's Koanan, not Betsy, as Silock, and and Betsy's Captain Britton, but I don't know. We'll see what they end up doing when the show rolls around. So uh another show that did come out this week was Spider-Man Noir with Nicolas Cage. I I've only gotten to watch the first episode so far. Um, you've gotten through a couple more episodes than me. Um but yeah, I've only got to four. So early. So are you watching it in black and white or are you watching it in color? That's I guess my first question. So my method, yeah, my method is I started with black and white, so then I'm doing every other episode the other one. So it's black and white color, black and white color. That's gotta be a weird viewing experience. I'm watching it in color. It is a weird viewing experience. So I'm one of the weird people that like even Werewolf by night. I know everybody loves it in black and white. I like watching the colored version of Werewolf by Night. There's just something about it that makes it a much more appealing movie for me. So even with this, I'm the weird one watching it in the true hue color thing, and I really don't care. Like, I'm I I'll I want to see the color. I I know like the noir thing, it's supposed to be in black and white, but I'm sorry, I'm watching it in the true hue. I will say though, I will say though, like doing this ver doing this method that I'm doing, you definitely get a different feeling from both of them. And you the with black and white, you definitely get more of I think um like dialogue emotion because you're focused, you you can't see the color, so you really can't see like their facial expressions that well, but you can you can you can understand where they're coming from and the and the dialogue just sounds a lot more clearer, and it does make it feel like almost like like horror, horrory in a way, like because it's in black and white. Where in color it just makes it feel a lot more modern, like I just feel like I'm watching like any other show that I'll be watching right now. Um, and so I just think the black and white is as a lot is a way more special way of watching it. Um, but the lighting in both is just so great, amazing. That's the way it's intended to be too, because they're like that is the whole point of the noir thing, is it for it to be in black and white? But I'm I'm not gonna watch it in black and white. I'm sorry, I'm watching it in color. Um, but the first episode, I I did really enjoy it. I love Brandon Gleason as Silvermane. Um I I like the way they're doing Black Cat and and her being like the singer at the bar and Sandman. Um I I loved all that. I thought that was really cool. Um I didn't expect to like this. Like I I really didn't. I I I think this is why like it's it's it took me a little while to even watch the show because at first I was like, do I really want to even watch this? Like, but I know we were covering it on here, so I knew I had to watch it, but it wasn't like at the top of my list of things that like I wanted to go see. Um I watched it the day after it premiered because I forgot that it premiered. So I feel you or not. Yeah, I um I I literally waited until like last night and this morning to like start putting it on and checking it out. And like I said, I was only able to get through the first episode um because I just had a lot of stuff going on this weekend. So I'll definitely watch it and and you know, give my thoughts next week on like what I thought of the whole show, because I'll probably be able to finish it, you know, this week. But yeah. So far I I I thought the first episode was good. If it you know, going off that. So it it's so far it's been really good. It it gives me a like weirdly enough, it gives me a like it could be a daytime TV show almost in the same aspect of like when uh Buffy and like Zeno was out and uh during that time period. Like I feel like they they like this is that type of show, and they would they would merge together if they were in the same TV slot, uh schedule-wise. Um yeah, and um just so I'm on episode four and just the character developments and the different like other characters that they involve in this. I just like seeing it in in on a new perspective and I just um takes on the character. It's almost like that same effect like new takes on the characters, um, seeing characters that you know, and you're like, Oh, that's this guy, because you just know their name, and you're like like it's it's just dope to watch in that sense. And not for nothing, Nicholas Cage is is doing a good hell of a job being um Spider-Man New York. Although none of this takes is in continuation with um yeah, I know Ben. Um none of this has anything to do with the Spider-Man uh Spider-Ver movies, but um I guess it's it it's it's still it still plays a great role. Like I guess because of his voice, right? But yeah, like he is supposed to be the Spider-Man from Spider-Verse, so like all that I guess technically still happened because it is a Sony movie, this is Sony continuality, so I guess like technically he is that same Spider-Man noir from the the Spider-Verse movies, but yeah, they're not they're not acknowledging anything from the Spider-Ver stuff in this, it's just kind of its own thing, especially when they make his name Ben Riley and in the Spider-Verse he's really Peter Parker, so it's like it's it's weird, but it's like he is, but he isn't. I don't know. I mean, and like Sony stuff, Sony stuff's been all over the place anyway, so like the continuality for them is just a fucking mess, and they're gonna fix that after this, but I could easily see them seeing the success of this and thinking they have a hit on their hands. I don't know if it means they're gonna do more of this, I don't know if it means they're gonna try to dive into more other Spider-Man characters that they can use. But I I still think for them, them using Miles Morales and letting Tom Holland be the Spider-Man for the MCU is like the way to go, or going and using Andrew Garfield as their Spider-Man and whatever they want to do forward is the way to go. Like you gotta pick something. Whatever you're gonna do, rebooting the Sony universe and and bringing some of these Spider-Man things back together because you want to hold on to that license, you don't want to lose it back to Marvel. You gotta have a Spider-Man in this stuff. You can't do what you did with Craven and Madame Webb and all of this stuff, where like you're doing a Spider-Man movie without Spider-Man in it. That doesn't work. You gotta figure out they gotta do the thing that Star Wars just did and take the risk and probably make a movie that is so basic in the Spider-Man with a Spider-Man and in the Spider-Man universe, and just see where it goes because we need we need something. You gotta figure out what you want to do and and where you want to go with it. And there's ways of like there's tons of Spider-Man characters, there's there's Ben Riley, there's you know, there's all kinds of different iterations of of Spider-Man that you can use. So whatever you're gonna do, just figure it out and go from there. And like, yeah, pull the trigger, like Andy said. Like, you you don't want to wait, you don't want to like give us more shit without Spider-Man being involved. I would even be here for like you. I know we like ended Venom, but you could always bring Tom Hardy back for Venom 4 with Spider-Man in it, and there we go. Like, easy way to kind of fix everything. I don't know. And like you said, the the Garfield is probably your favorite. And I was watching the interview before it worked before this, and and Nick and Nicholas Kate said it himself like I that's my favorite one out of like the three that we've gotten already. So it's like Sony, hello, you just took a chance on this guy, take a chance on the Andrew now. Like, let's get it going. It's not even that like so. I guess maybe out of the three, he might be my favorite, but I I do really like Tom Holland as as Peter. Um, but my whole thing is like Peter's the MCU Spider-Man. So if you want to differentiate yourself and still do whatever stories you want to do in order to hold on to this license and and do all of that stuff, then yeah, just do it do it with a Spider-Man. You know, bring a Spider-Man into your movies and call it a fucking day. And now you have yours and Marvel has theirs, and we can just move forward with all of that. You know what I'm saying? Um We got the trailer for season three of House of the Dragons this week as well, because they're ramping up for that to debut in June. And boy, oh boy, was this a fucking awesome trailer. They did not hesitate, they wanted you to know that there's gonna be tons of dragons in season three. They showed you every rider. That's the first thought I had. They showed you every rider, they showed you um the new Targaryens that are gonna be part of the lineup for this season. They showed you Alicent being on the run with uh with her daughter, Helena, and then they also show Aegon the burned one, who's technically still king, like evading. We saw at the end of the last season, like he got on the caravan and basically gave forfeited the castle. All of that storyline is gonna play in very, very big into this next season. Um, all I can say is buckle up if you're a fan of this show and do not know what's gonna happen, because the Dance of Dragons continues and there's gonna be a lot of casualties. You can never trust a Targaryen because they always got someone up their sleeve. So Well, the whole thing is this is Targaryens versus Targaryens. So this is this is basically how we get to the Mad King. Um, this is how we get to to what we're seeing in Dunkin' Egg. This is all of that kind of wrapped up, um, which is really cool. Um this this season, this season in particular, really affects Duncan Egg for next season and kind of shows us the bloodline that's on the throne during you know this time period for Duncan Egg. And we we saw it in the first season with Balin and and you know the the the bastard kids that have the brown hair. So it's it's it's gonna be fun. It's it's gonna be a lot of fun. Uh Matt Smith, I guarantee, will probably be the breakout star of this second season or of this third season. If they do this right, his storyline and um one eye, Aegon, uh Aegon the the that lost his eye, they're the ones that they're the one or Aemon. Um yeah, Amen. They're gonna be I need him dead. They're the main storyline this year, I think. And and I think and unless they save that for next season, I don't think they will. Um, but that that whole storyline and the things that go back and forth with them that lead to like their eventual duel is is fucking sick. And and the way that all transpires is like some anime shit. So I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they're gonna pull it out. No way you just tease me like that, dude. Like, let's go. Yeah. Um, that is it's one of the most epic things in the books when you read it. Um, and it's still it's the way it's done and and executed just like visually when you're reading it. Can't so like I'm I can't wait to see how they pulled it off like on screen, you know what I mean, and actually show it to you. And and so it's it should be fun. Uh, you also get we also got introduced to the other Targaryen who has her her ship. I forget what it's called, the bitch something. The the it's like the craziest name, and they were all like they were all like, yeah, it's her it's her ship. She's a she's a a captain of a ship, and it's called like the something bitch or the bitch something. And the the whole cast was saying how funny it was to like try to say it with a straight face, like without breaking character, because like the name is so asinine, but like it is like this this basically like think of Vikings like women Vikings and and apply that to this crew of this ship. Like this ship is a crew of all women that are some of the most badass fighters that you've ever seen, and you're gonna get to experience them in this season. And like the door melaje of the Tigerians, huh? Pretty much. Yeah, and and we saw the the Salt Kings, um, we saw, you know, all of them involved. It looks like the character of Nettles is being like written out of this show and that they're giving it to Damon's youngest daughter. Um, so like she's gonna be playing essentially two characters in this season. They kind of combine like two storylines and gave her the plot line. So that should be an interesting. So they'll have like a flashbacks situation. No, um, there's another character in the books called Nettles, and basically she's not in the show. They they never involved they never like introduced the character at all, and they're not going to. So they gave her storyline to the other character, and basically like her So she's gonna not only have her storyline from the book, she's also gonna have Nettles' storyline. So it's it's gonna change some things like that are for the way it's gonna play out. But I'm not mad at the change, like it does work for the show because you spent more time with with her than you have, you know, introducing this other new character. So I I think it works for for what they're trying to do. But yeah, I'm excited for season three. Um season four is the finale of this show, so we are only getting one more season of this. It it sounds like the plan is to do season three this season. We're gonna have season two of Dunkin' Egg next year, and then the final season of House of Dragons in 2028. So that seems to be their plan, and and just kind of wrap up House of Dragons, and then by that point we'll be moving into the uh the live action Egon's Conquest movie that's gonna be coming. So it should be a lot of fun. And this comes out June June 21st. Something like that. I don't know the exact date. Uh it's somewhere in June. Yeah, I think it's I think somewhere in the teens, I want to say, is like the exact date. But I could be wrong. I know uh I know it's coming though, and they are hyping this up and getting us ready for it. So I'm always here for for more Game of Thrones content and Westeros. Um we're getting uh speaking of new content, we're getting a new book that's coming out called Connie in 2027, and it's basically the story of the godfather from his daughter's perspective, Connie. And it's written by Adriana Trigiani. I I I'm not sure if I pronounced that correctly. I'm sorry if I did, but um, she basically wrote this book, and it seems that they're gonna be moving forward with doing a live-action movie based around this as well. So it the whole the whole setup is basically her perspective of the events that we've already seen from Godfather One. So it's she's Don Vito's uh daughter. So I'm interested to see how they're gonna end up doing this, if they're gonna digitally bring back uh you know Don Vito Corleon, if they're gonna recast him in some way, um, if they're just gonna make this a whole new like perspective for the movies and kind of shoot all new Godfather movies around this. But I think it's a cool concept. I love The Godfather. I I think doing mob stuff lately has been like lacking other than like TV shows. So for them to bring back The Godfather and want to run back like that franchise, a lot of people don't know this, but the video game that came out a few years ago, the Godfather video game, was like a ridiculously good video game and and did really well with with fans. So there was new content incorporated into that game, which was a lot of fun. I could very easily see them like drawing this out and almost making the Godfather franchise like their new Sopranos going forward. And it it's very possible that they could, depending on how this does and how this book does. Yeah, for sure. Um with the with so like with the Connie, the book is already out or is it coming out and then they're gonna do Okay. Okay. The book's already done. But there's are they already in talks now currently to develop it as a script to to pitch as a movie. So if we did get it as a movie, it probably wouldn't be till 2028, 2029. But they're already working on it and putting it together to try to get this rolling. So I I'm I'm here for it. Like I said, I'm I'm here for more godfather stuff. Um, especially this different concept and seeing it from somebody else's perspective, you know. Uh somebody who's involved in all of it, but then is also outside of it because she's a female, and it having a female write the female's perspective, I I think it's gonna be pretty cool. Yeah, alright. Yeah, I can't wait. We need more mob stuff. I mean, we haven't had anything good. I mean, we had this and pieces from what um what's my boy from from uh Daredevil um Gandalf did. Yeah. Is that him oh Gary? Is that his name? Garalfini. Gandalf, yeah. Yeah. So him, um, what he did in in the in the in the well no, that was for Sopranos, the the prequel for that. And and then what he did in Daredevil 2 a little bit, but uh we just haven't really got anything real like that. Um so this would be definitely there's tons of mob shows. Um speaking of mob shows, Tom Hardy just got fired off of his mob show with Pierce Brosman and Helen Miren. Yeah, I was just about to say that. Mobland or whatever it was called. Um, yeah, he basically got it was like Gangs of London or something like that. No, that's not what it's called. Um it's Mobland. That's not that one. I think it's called Mobland. Um, but he got fired from the show basically for showing up late and trying to rewrite different parts. The the director had enough of the shit and just basically got rid of them. So I don't know what's gonna happen with that show going forward or if that's gonna move forward, but that was more based around like Irish gangs and like um stuff like that. So it'll be interesting to see. I'm here for more Godfather content. Um, I'm looking forward to checking out the book when it comes out and then you know, hopefully watching as this gets developed into a uh movie or TV show. Yeah, for sure. Um Supergirl is tracking now to get released, uh I believe end of June, July is the release for Supergirl. The tracking for this is is looking at 60 mil opening. Um, so that would make it less than Black Adam and less than the Marvels if it if that stands. Now, I have seen the Supergirl figure starting to hit. I have seen a lot of production stuff for Supergirl starting to come out. They've really pushed the trailers. Um the DC Showcase podcast just came back, which is a great podcast to to check out. Friend of the show, Coi John Dro is one of the hosts of that. And um they just had Millie Alcock on in their debut episode. So that was really cool to see them sit down. Uh, him and Frankie basically interviewed her and and you know, talked about the movie. You could tell that it was shot a while ago, like this was a production shot interview that was done probably a couple months ago and then is just airing now because some of the timeline stuff that Koy had mentioned in the interview. But they're ramping this up, they're trying to get people excited for Supergirl, and I don't necessarily know if it's if it's landing the way like they want it to. I I still think had you been doing this as like a uh HBO Max movie or like a one shot, like if this was like Punisher, where like hey, Supergirl's just come into HBO Max and we're doing Like an hour-long special about Kara. I think it would do better. I don't know. This this could surprise me. I love the story of Woman of Tomorrow. The Tom King book is is phenomenal. I just I don't know how it's gonna transition to a main screen audience because Supergirl's essentially like a C D level character, she's not like an A or B level DC character in in the scheme of things. Yeah. Now DC is gonna be rolling out their soup Summer of Supergirl special, which I think comes out in two weeks or three weeks. Um they're going hard with the role. They're gonna be tying in the soup the Summer of Supergirl special. It's a supergirl book that they're doing that ties in with the movie that's set in the actual DC continuity. So it's a whole one-shot special that's gonna be basically promo for the movie. Um Lobo has a story that ties in with that, that's actually gonna tie in, you're gonna see the so they're you're gonna read the story in the supergirl special, and then if you go read the Lobo series, you can read the same story from his perspective versus Kara's perspective. So I thought that was a cool like addition to this. But uh Bella Nortega is drawing it, she's a fantastic artist, she's one of the most talented artists that DC has, so I'm really looking forward to seeing you know her artwork in that. They're they're really gonna ramp this up. We have lanterns coming shortly after that in August. So DC's gotta do something here to to really get the hype up, and and I don't know if people are there for it. Yeah, uh as someone of the people, I recently saw the popcorn bucket for uh for the movie, and I seen the Lobo one. I mean, it's cool to see Lobo on the bike, but they opened the bucket, they've opened up the popcorn bucket and they showed the amount of popcorn that goes in that lobo thing, and I'm just like, this shit is this shit better be $25 because if it's more than that, that's insane. So it's a cool bucket, but they gotta do more. The problem with Jason Momoa as Lobo is he's not the villain of this movie, he's only in this movie for a short amount of time. Like Lobo's not even in the Woman of Tomorrow Supergirl story. That's just this is just an addition that they're doing to include somebody else into this movie because the villain is not a big DC villain. It's just a character that's like in sequential in the scheme of things. So I think it's a movie. There's no brainiac introduction in this, there's no there might be, maybe there's some threads that you'd a man of tomorrow, or but I don't know. I I I I again I don't even know if I'm going to the theater to see Supergirl, and that that should kind of tell you all you need to know. Like, I'm excited for the movie, I'll watch it when it's on HBO Max, but as far as like rushing out to want to go see it in the movie theater, I I don't think I'm on that train. Like I was for Superman. Superman, I couldn't wait. I was excited about Superman. But Supergirl, as much as I like Millie, as much as I like the the character's appearance in Superman, I'm not really like gun ho to go out and see it in the movie theater. Yeah. And it seems like in the movie, like they're eventually uh him, Lobo, and Supergirl are gonna end up teaming up. So it's it's like you said, he's not a real character, so it seems like they're just having it in there. It's literally just Jason Momoa and makeup. Doing doing his thing, yeah. Yeah, like if you've watched his motorcycle show and like all of that shit, it's the same exact stuff, it's just in space, essentially. And like the the figure and the merch is out for him right now. You could buy his bike, you could buy his McFarland figure, and like I passed on both because they just it's Jason Momoa. Like, I'm good. I I did I did pick up uh both Supergirl figures. I have the the version of her with the sword and and little crypto, and then I have the version of her from Superman with the trench coat. So um, but those were the only two that I I picked up from like the Supergirl movie. Otherwise, like, yeah, I didn't I don't need the villain, I don't need Lobo, I don't need anybody else from that movie. I'm good. Um so as we were talking about Mandalorian and Grogu and how they got knocked out of the top spot for for this week in the box office, the two things that knocked them out of the box office were Obsession, a horror movie that's been out now for a couple weeks, and Backrooms, which we've been talking about now. Uh both these movies pulled over a hundred million dollars this weekend, respectively. And the interesting thing that I found that I wanted to bring up and talk about is 80% of the audience for both of these movies is under the age of 35. So the fact that these directors are both under the age of of twenty-five making this movie, and the fact that they're both like YouTube sensations, both viral, you know, directors, that's how they got their acclaim, that's how they got noticed by these studios. Do you think it's it's a younger generation supporting younger directors? Or do you think it's it's the viral sensation that came along with with these things and these directors that they're attached to that these younger kids are going to see, or do you think it's just a resurgence in horror? Because we have seen horror movies in the past two years really start to uptick and be the main thing that's like killing it at the box office consistently every time. Like every time a good horror movie drops, it's in the top three for a consistent amount of time. We we we saw Sinners, you know, we're just getting off a year where Sinners won all of those awards for Best Picture and everything else. So is it a resurgence of horror or is it a resurgence of younger people supporting these younger directors and these these younger casts? That's what kind of what were where I wanted to go with this. Yeah, I I think it's a mixture of of a lot of those things. Um, I feel like the pop the popularity of it being a YouTube situation and the demographic of kids nowadays that are live and die by YouTube and streaming and things of that nature, yeah, give it a more of a uh of a of a of a of a reason to want to see it for for content purposes and just because of like that that social engagement that we already that they already have. So like and then the other thing is like I like I like the fact that um it is a younger audience telling a story because uh what I've noticed even with my younger brother is that like the old school um yeah, they're younger, but a lot of some of these kids who are actually making good content are are working off of from what the old and the and the OGs used to do when making these films and stuff of that nature. So they're just basically using that recipe for success, and it's giving you know uh the the numbers and the demographic that are getting out of it, which is which is like my age. This is my demo that's could see this movie right now. And and from what I understand too, the younger generation seems because they grew up with technology. See, like I'm from the generation that didn't have technology in the in the beginning and now does. So like I grew up with it, I learned it as it came out and kind of dealt with it as you know, aged appropriately as all of these things were changing over. So for me, I'm used to it. I'm in that demographic of like, yeah, I've grown up with tech, so for me, like I'm I'm pretty tech savvy. But I I've heard that a lot of the younger kids, because all that they know is tech, all that they've grown up with in is tech, that so like they're the big movie audience now. They're the ones that like almost look at going to the movies and watching films and collecting records as like a vintage hobby, and like that almost became popular for them in a way. So it's it's it's almost like a weird take, but I can vouch because like I said, I was at the movie theater last night. We walked in, there was a lot of kids like probably in their 20s, you know, 18, 19, 20. Uh, there's large groups of them. None of them went to go see Mandalorian and Grogu. And and like we were both laughing about that in the movie theater. Of like, all of those kids were probably here to see either Obsession or Backrooms, and we were there at like 10 o'clock at night watching the movie, you know, it was a it was like a late night showings, and this place was packed for both of those movies. So I saw it. I saw it with my I've I I I saw it firsthand of like, oh yeah, all these young kids came out to go see both of these movies. If if that's the resurgence of cinema, them viewing it as like almost a vintage thing, that's it's a very interesting perspective, but it could be the thing that's like helping bring back cinemas. Like they've they've already said just this year alone, it's been record-breaking numbers, like back to pre-pandemic level, you know, people going out to the to see movies. And if it is like a majority of under 35 kids, you know, under under 35 years of age going to see these movies, like that says something. That's that's so it's no wonder that these big studios are taking the chance on these content creators and saying, hey, we'll give you a bag to go make us a movie, as long as you can go get your your demographic and your audience in here to go see it. I think that's pretty cool. I I think that you know that that that could be the resurgence that these movie theaters needed and that cinema in general has needed to keep it afloat. Yeah, streaming is killing it. Um, to answer your question from before, is that is exactly what is going on right now. My brother, for example, does photography and he's been doing a lot of VHS stuff opposed to we have these we have 4K cameras on our phone and stuff like that. He loves to use VHS over a lot of like the bigger production stuff. I it's just it's just a feeling that that they don't know, and it's just so like new to them because it's they never didn't grow up with it. Yeah. Um, and yeah, like definitely like we got we're getting Kaisana in freaking scary um scary movie, uh, the new scary movie movie that's coming out. So like that type of stuff is definitely gonna attract people to come out. And it's you gotta think like a teenager, like you know, you you take a girl out on a date or something like that. It's something you guys can talk about after you you can feel an emotion, especially with the horror stuff, you know. So it's and I know I know for a majority of people they had said the the increase in horror popularity had to do with a lot of a lot of these movies and a lot of these shows focusing on like incorporating stuff that's going on in the real world into you know, into pr into TV, into movies, and a lot of people are so over all of like the the shit that they see in real life that they don't want to watch it on their like they want to be they want to be taken out of real world and and not be put in these scenarios that we see on the news every day. So horror as a genre is becoming that for people where like yeah, I can tune out for an hour and a half and watch like some psycho do whatever and like enjoy myself rather than sitting here and thinking about like this is going on in the world. Oh, I just watched a news story about something similar about this, or I just saw this same clip on the news like two weeks ago. So I could see that like being part of the reason why horror is having the resurgence. Also, my my best friend brings it up all the time that like they don't classify horror anymore of like what horror used to be like for for my generation growing up of you know, horror, horror used to be if there was a monster, if it was a slasher film, you know, like that was horror. And like it was almost treated as like it was almost treated like in the same category as porn, where like, you know, it's there, it's it's a genre of of movie, but like not everybody appreciates it. And I feel like as I've grown and my generation kind of has become like now the generation, you know, the the generation that like forwarded it, it it seems that horror now like is the opposite, and like you have you know, psychological thrillers, you have regular thrillers, you have alien stuff, you have all these different genres now that are kind of being encompassed in as horror movies, and I think that just expands it for for people to go see and go, you know, tune in. Yeah, 1000%. So I'm I am interested to see like what these what obsession and backrooms end up doing overall. I'm looking forward to checking on them out. I I've heard nothing but good things about obsession, like all the reviews are positive for it. It looks like a cool movie. So I'm definitely gonna check that out when it hits streaming. Uh backrooms, I'll definitely check out when it hits streaming, but uh I'm probably not gonna be hitting out to the theater to see either one of them, in in all honesty. I had a I had a friend who told me she she saw back rooms, she says she really liked it. She says she feels paranoid all the time now when she looks at freaking rooms like long hallways and stuff like that. All the reviews are positive 87% score on Rotten Tomatoes, like it's sitting at from from audience. So, like that should tell you that people are enjoying it, people like it. Um I I I obsession though, like I said, I've heard nothing but good things about it. Like, I haven't heard any criticisms about the movie, anything regarding you know, any of that. So I'm here for it. And isn't the guy like one of the main characters in there, he's voice acting Cyclops or something like that in X Men 97? In Obsession? I read that. Yeah. I have no idea. I gotta I gotta double check that, but I I think I've seen something like that where he's playing Cyclops before Cite 97, but I have no idea. Um yeah, so I I'm I'm interested to see, like I said, what these movies are gonna do uh overall, but it is crazy that they in one week knocked Mandalorian out of the top spot, just like that. Two two horror movies made by directors under the age of 25. Especially and in and in the summertime, like like the kid these they have we have none the the the what is it saying the there's a the the the school's out and freaking the the a lot of people are going graduating, so there's mad time for to go to the movies and just see it and see stuff and there's a lot I feel like horror has always been the one yeah to be the one to come out. We have the Odyssey, we have Spider-Man, we have Doomsday eventually, whenever they fucking show off that trailer, which I still cannot believe that there's no trailer out for that movie yet. And and the last and the Russo brothers, the last two days have been dropping shit, and I'm just like I don't care anymore. I don't I don't this is not annoying. This is annoying. They're just trolling people at this point with this movie, and like I really am getting to the point where like I don't even care about doomsday. I'm not even excited about it. I've told you that multiple times on the air here that I'll wait, I'll watch it, but I I don't really have and like me and my friend were talking about it last night. Like, she's watched all the Marvel movies and is is is waiting for Doomsday because she wants to see what's gonna happen next. And like she was like, Yeah, that's funny that they pretty much like wiped away all of the past couple, you know, the all the Disney Plus stuff, all of that, and basically said, Yeah, none of that matters. Just go watch Endgame and then come back for Doomsday, and like we'll we'll catch you up and get you set. I I don't know. It's it's gonna be very interesting to see. But uh comics of the week next year, what do you what do you got? So uh I got two for you guys today. Uh I'll start from with this one actually. Uh I finally caught got to read uh the do the daredevil number two by Stephanie Phillips. Shout out to Stephanie. Um every time. Every time. Shout out to Stephanie Phillips. Um, and you know, Bruce, um Matt is is going through like trying to figure out who the killer was that he had seen in the last film in the last uh issue. Um we get the the appearance of Owl in this. Um, and then also the they start mentioning like Mr. Fantastic and stuff like that in here, and then at the end of this, we get the reveal of Spider-Man being introduced. So um it's gonna be interesting to see what we do with number two, I mean number three, and um, yeah, with the story going forward. So overall, I've been loving this. This is a great read. And then my second one is the Death Stroke Terminator. Um, it's been really great. What was that? I said okay, yeah. No, that's a that's I I read it. Um it's not my pile, but it's a it was a good one this week. It's continuing the story. I'm liking what Tony Fleaks is doing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and plus I'm not the biggest death stroke person, so learning so much about him in this and how fucked up his life is is really insane. Um, and he's just the the action in this and the rawnness and the and the reveal at the end of this is just also very interesting. And um, yeah, it's it's it's gonna this is this is I've been thoroughly enjoying this. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it's been it's been a a surprise for me, honestly. Um there are some new things coming out this week this month. We have absolute catwoman coming, we have um Barbara Gordon breakout. Well that that did just come out, the first issue. Um, but yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see like where they're going with a lot of these these DC things. The fact that we're getting static now in Titans, like we talked about last week, that's gonna be a big deal. So they're they're they're moving forward. There is kind of a little little thing going on where people are kind of trying to boycott DC because they're they're saying that there's not enough um diversity main title books going on currently. I would argue that there's a lot of diverse characters in in all of the books going on currently for DC. Um but I see your points and and I understand like where they're coming from on wanting wanting books that are just solely featured on you know different minority characters. So um I'm a big component of of Ollie's. Um I always talk about going there and finding books. So um I did go yesterday and found quite a good amount of new DC stuff. Um I was able to get Chip Zadarsky's Batman Failsafe. Uh so his run of Batman is really great. Uh the failsafe story is really awesome. So I was able to pick up this trade. Um shout out to Teeny Howard and Blake Howard. This is their punchline book that that uh pretty much all about Alexis K and uh Punchline Joker's new girlfriend in the in the comics. Um so this compiles like a bunch of their stories in their run that they did. I have the other two punchline books, so it was nice to like add this to the collection and just continue. And then the the cool thing was sometimes they get omnibuses in. So normally these are like hundred and fifty dollar books. This is the the entire run of the new 52 Wonder Woman uh by Brian Azzarello, and uh it was a $30 book at Ollie's, so cannot beat that. I love it. Um, so yeah, I'm looking forward to checking these out and running. That's a steal, dude. I have a lot of this in single issues, some of the Wonder Woman. I think like the first 10 issues when it came out, I was like checking it out during New 52, but I'm glad to have like the whole omnibus of it and to have you. I love Teeny. Um, I always love her work. So to find this and to get the the Chipsidarski Batman Failsafe was really cool. But um, my comics of the week, first thing I wanted to talk about was Batman Hush. Now, this is not this is not a book I'm gonna recommend to people. This is not a book I'm gonna tell people to go out and pick up. It's actually quite the opposite. We've waited nearly six months for this final issue. This this issue with Jeff Loeb and Jim Lee returning back to the Hush universe. This storyline has gone on for over a year. This was supposed to wrap up the the previous Batman run to get us to the current Matt Fraction run. Halfway through, once they realized that they couldn't meet the deadline for the schedule, they decided to make this a non-continuality book anymore. So now this book, just throw it all out because it doesn't fucking matter. When they started doing this book, I already knew that they were kind of disregarding the last 20 years of Batman and just continuing this Hush story from the last Hush story book. Like basically Hush happened and then this happened after it, and everything else that happened in Batman for the last 20 years didn't matter. Well, this book doesn't matter. Um, this was the worst Batman book I've ever read, in in all seriousness. Um, it's just a jumbled mess of shit and and trying to play off the old nostalgia of Hush, and and I thought it was fucking awful. I was so mad when I read it. The way they depict Jason Todd and this of you know me, I'm just Jason defends. I was about to say, so that's the real problem. They do some weird things, but like Jason's crying about Hush and like more concerned about him, and just fucking stupid. The book ends with like Bruce being thrown in a Lazarus pit and then making out with Talia at the end of the issue, only to set up Hush 2 Part 2. So this isn't even the fucking finale of this story. Now they're coming back to do Hush 2 Part 2. Fuck you. I'm I'm out on this. Matt Fraction's Run is so much better. Just continue to fucking read that and disregard all of this Jeff Loeb shit. I I don't need you to come back and write Batman ever again. Um, speaking about good comics now this week, Josh Williamson's super. Man, prime time, baby. Another issue of Superboy Prime, another fantastic fucking issue. This story, every month when it comes out, I need Josh Williamson to just do a Prime solo out of this. Like whenever Clark does return, and I need just a solo prime book because this has been so cool. I love the fourth wall breaking. I love the callbacks to like our actual real world and the intertwining because Prime is technically from our universe. It's just a really cool concept. Um, I'm I'm loving the story so far. And then, friend of the show, uh Connor Goldsmith and Josh Corleone, uh, they have their debut issue from Dark Horse Comics, Did You Hear About Mimi Green? And for those of you guys that don't know Connor, he hosts the Cerebro podcast. Um, it's an X-Men podcast that is phenomenal. He basically has on different guests where they break down X-Men characters and go through the whole lineage of the character. Some of the episodes can be up to seven to ten hours long uh when it's all said and done. Sometimes they're broken up into multiple parts, but they are fun, they're hilarious. His takes on the characters are so great. Um, but Connor made his debut writing this issue, and this story was so cool. I I've added this series to my pull list. I was gonna check it out simply just because it was it was Connor's debut, but the story is so cool, it's a very interesting take on cancel culture and social media and mental health with a little twist of supernatural mixed into it. Um, it's almost a little bit of the beauty. If you've watched the the the beauty um TV show and the substance with Demi Moore, it's it's really fucking cool. I highly recommend going to check it out. And so add it to your polls. Go pick it up if you missed it this week. Highly recommend it. The artwork is phenomenal. Josh does such like a great job in this, and you know, it's just a phenomenal first issue. So hats off to the both of them and looking forward to Yeah, shout out to Josh. So really, really cool, and uh very happy for Connor to to make his debut writing. This has been uh something he's talked about for many years trying to do. So the fact that like he was able to achieve his dream and now has his first comic out, so so fucking cool. So hats off to both you guys and congratulations on on this fantastic book. Um you have anything that you're watching this week besides Spider-Man no more. No, but I'm sorry, but we gotta say this. Go New York, go New York, go. My Knicks are going to the finals, so it's gonna be a very exciting week this uh this coming week. So yeah, we'll see what happens. Let's go. We'll see what happens. I'm I'm pulling for them. Um I'm an East Coast guy. I don't really care about sports. So for me, yeah, I'd be happy if they won. It'd be crazy around here if they did. Um so yeah, hats off to them. Hopefully, hopefully they they could pull it off. Um outside of Spider-Man Noir, I don't really have anything else that I'm watching this week. Um, there might be some new stuff on Netflix that I haven't just have just haven't had time to check out. So Spider-Man Noir is on my watch list this week. Um, and outside of that, I'll probably have a bunch of stuff that I'll end up catching up on this week and getting through. So we could talk about that more so I guess next week. But otherwise, that'll do it for today's episode of Talking Soups. Thank you guys so much for tuning in and joining us. 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