Kids and a Calling
Kid's and a Calling is a group of young adults who still have child-like faith to share. Each episode, they have real conversations about Scripture and meaningful topics, breaking down what God's Word actually looks like in everyday life.
The group consists of our host, Audrey, co-host, Hudson, along with Lincoln, Andria, and Ramsey. Honest, practical, and easy to follow, they invite you join their journey to grow in God's calling.
Produced by: Jonathan Walton and Brian Blanchard
Kids and a Calling
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What happens when you’re praying for direction and it feels like God is “typing” but never hitting send? In this episode, we unpack Pastor Jared’s message from the A Simple Question series on “Do I have purpose?”
Then we shift into a Proverbs Bible study (Proverbs 13–15) and pull out practical, everyday wisdom around topics like controlling the tongue, choosing gentle answers, taking correction without pride, fearing the Lord, and dealing with jealousy before it spreads.
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Welcome And Future Perfect Days
SPEAKER_01What's up everyone? Welcome back to Kids in a Calling Podcast, where none of us are kids, but we all have a calling, and that's the point people to Jesus. I'm your host, Audrey L Jo. With me is Hudson Walton.
SPEAKER_04Hey guys.
SPEAKER_01Andrea Crater. Hi, Ramsay Pavlou. Hey, and Lincoln Society.
SPEAKER_04Hey guys.
SPEAKER_01So guys, what does a perfect day look like to you, like 10 years from now? What would walk me through a perfect day?
SPEAKER_06Perfect day. I'm married with a wife and a few kids, and we just chill all day. That's the perfect day.
SPEAKER_00How old am I 10 years from now? 29? Yeah, I'd hopefully be married by that point. And if it's a Saturday, we'd wake up, I'd sleep in late on the Saturday, and then we'd wake up and we'd go do something fun, like the zoo or something. Yes, let's go.
SPEAKER_04Sound pretty far. Probably been married with children as well. Uh just chill like Hudson said. Wow, that'd be good. So original.
SPEAKER_00Right. Or like going fishing. Go uh going fishing on a Saturday. I've never done it. If you're not waking up early in the morning, I wouldn't go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's not fun. I'll probably just be like somewhere in the world with my family.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_02Okay, what what part of the voice is gone by the way? What part of the voice is gone by the way? No, I'd be in like Maine or something like that. With your now family or future family?
SPEAKER_01Future or now, I don't know. We'd just be all chillin'. I would like wake up with a husband and like two kids, preferably one son, one daughter. Son is older. And like perfect day, guys. Like, like uh perfect in your eyes. And then we'd go get coffee, but really it'd probably just be me because nobody else likes coffee. Wait, this is the perfect day. Everyone's getting coffee with me. Yes, yes, and we're all gonna enjoy it too. Like nobody's forcefully drinking coffee. You got to real world. So we're gonna have coffee and then we're gonna go to like Kava probably for lunch. Or like maybe get a steak. Texas Dryed House with bread rolls. Texas Dry House with bread rolls. And then we're gonna get Yogurt Land and go to the zoo. Because I love the zoo. Wow. And then we're gonna take a like that'll be the day we're flying out to go to Europe. And we're gonna go on a Parisian excursion. And we're gonna have a great time there. And that's my day. And then we go to bed in a beautiful Paris hotel with the view of the Eiffel Tower. Twinkling. I don't know if we're getting that specific.
SPEAKER_04That's a lot in one. I said took me through a perfect day.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna make it. Okay, well, like my day has to end with some kind of pretty sunset because those are really pretty. Yeah. Or like some really pretty stars that are in the middle of nowhere because lights don't mess up the stars. Exactly. And I like the stars. That's a beautiful day, Andrea. That would be a great day with fishing and catching fish. Because I don't like to go fishing.
SPEAKER_06If I don't catch fish, not catch fish.
SPEAKER_00I like to go catching. I don't like to go fishing. If I'm not catching, then it's boring. Real. So if I'm catching, then it's fun. But then I have to catch the most fish because everything is a competition. And so like I would have to catch the most fish to be a perfect day. Wow. That was beautiful, like a dog chasing a lot.
SPEAKER_06So I don't want to go fishing with your family. It's not a competition, dude.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, guys.
Do We All Have Purpose
SPEAKER_01So as you all know, Pastor Jared a few weeks ago, I think like two weeks ago, continued his slash finished his um series, A Simple Question. And the last one was on do I have purpose? So tell me your thoughts.
SPEAKER_06So um this may be a little bit of a controversial opinion, but I think we all have purpose. I don't know if you guys agree with that. Yeah. Maybe that's a hot take. But um, but yeah, I really like this one, and I'm kind of sad to see the series end. I was like, that was really good. But um, I really liked how he opened it up. It was funny to me because I've done the exact same thing. Him talking about how he was having a really heated uh texting discussion with uh Jin, his wife, and he typed out this long response. He got his point across, and then he just saw the three texting the the bubble, the texting bubble where she was texting back, and then he waited and waited, and the bubble disappeared and waited, and he thought he was about to get slammed with a response, but he just didn't. So he was immediately like, My wife hates me and wants to kill me. And so he started he was he was like freaking out, like, oh god, I messed up. He started thinking about how he was gonna make things right, but long story short, it turned out that she just got distracted by the kids and never even really like read his message, and so he like created the story in his head where in reality that didn't happen. Yeah, and he used that. I thought it was funny because I've definitely done that before. I feel like we all do that. Um, we try to text someone, we don't hear back from them immediately, and we're like, okay, what happened? What's going on?
SPEAKER_01Like they read it the wrong way, or like even you said something you like you kind of regret now because it's like, wait, I shouldn't have said that.
SPEAKER_06Did I sound silly? Yeah, I may have not sounded like an alpha when I said that.
SPEAKER_01Nope, you're done.
SPEAKER_06Sorry.
SPEAKER_01You didn't sound like an alpha saying that.
SPEAKER_06Uh moving
When God Feels Like Silence
SPEAKER_06on. Moral of the story. He he related it to how we often do that with God. And I thought that was really uh that was really good. How you know we'll like be praying for something or asking for something from God, and we won't hear an immediate response, immediate reassurance from God, and we're just like, okay, what did I do? Why does God hate me? What am I doing wrong? Um, did I sin yesterday? Did I sin? Did does God is He mad at me?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06And so you can start making up all these things when in reality you're just supposed to be waiting. So I thought that was a really good point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I liked tying into what you were saying. He said, like when we wait, when we're waiting for a response from God or from people, it starts to weigh on us spiritually and like physically and mentally, it just becomes a weight that you're carrying until you get an answer and it's just bringing you down, you know? Yeah. And it's while you're waiting, you can start to convince yourself that like in the God aspect of it, that God doesn't have purpose for you, or that God's not gonna answer it, or God's holding it back because you did something wrong. Yeah. When in reality, it's just that's your walk. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00I really liked how he said sometimes it feels like God is just typing and won't ever hit the send button. Oh, I didn't hear that. Yeah, I was like, that's just that's so cool. Because like we'll ask God, just like you were saying, we'll ask God a question, and then like we expect an immediate response. Like, I ask you, you're talking right back down to me, and sometimes God doesn't really work like that. He like has us learn through life experience or other things like that, and so sometimes the answer doesn't come right away, and then like Huston was saying, we'll start making up things that never even really happened. Yeah, just because God didn't hit the send button whenever you wanted to.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and it was pretty funny how he kind of sends us all and he was like, you know, I don't know how else to say this, but it isn't all about you.
SPEAKER_00No, for real.
SPEAKER_06If you text someone and they don't immediately respond, news flash, people have lives.
SPEAKER_00Like who is waiting around their phone just to text you? Me.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, that's what he was saying.
SPEAKER_06Oh, cut that out, that's not supposed to be air.
SPEAKER_00Also, fun fact if you stop typing for 60 seconds, the bubble goes away. See, I didn't know that that has to be new because I thought it just stayed. I don't know. I think someone in my house tried it out and it worked.
SPEAKER_02So like I really thought it just stayed, like if there was like words in like the spot where there's some like the text is. I don't know. What you know, like since there's words occupying it, I thought that the bubbles would always just stay. I don't that was news to me.
SPEAKER_01Good question. But um sorry, that was really irrelevant. No, you're good. So for this one, you know how like every um sermon had like the scramble, you know, he would explain what the scramble. This one had like two of them, if not three. I don't remember. Three of them, that's right. Okay.
Quiet Faithfulness Over Big Moments
SPEAKER_01So the first one um was that you start trying to create impact through dramatic actions instead of living in quiet faithfulness. And I like that one because it's pretty much saying we try to take matters into our own hands and make the answers ourselves rather than putting them in God's hands and letting him answer the questions. Because I think we do the first part, like we're saying, hey God, can you give me this or I need help with this? And instead of being patient and waiting for an answer, which probably wouldn't take that long if you were just patient, yeah, we're like trying to answer it for him, like literally, like you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're like you're trying to figure out for yourself, like you're trying to make it happen. Yeah, and Pastor used the examples of Joseph in prison, because that was pretty ordinary, because purpose in scripture often looks very ordinary, he said, or David in the field, like David taking care of a sheep was so mundane and ordinary, or Moses in the desert with his sheep, like they were they were just chilling, but really they were being faithful into what God called them in that season. And he said that dramatic feats can become stumbling blocks and not stepping stones. So if we're out here doing all these dramatic things, trying to create impact in our lives, honestly, they're gonna hold us back more than put us forward. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I like that point a lot too, Audrey. Um, I think from the like dramatic action side, when we try to do that, we can put expectations on ourselves that God didn't intend for us to put. Like you, if you're called to sing, you're like, well, what big singing group can I be on so I can know that this is this is my purpose. I'm supposed to be singing. Or if you're preaching, like, oh, when will I get to preach at N A Y C? Like this is big things, and God's I'm not calling you to preach at N A Y C. I'm calling you to do XYZ Bible studies, or like he's calling us to simpler things, and as we are faithful to him, he starts showing us what our purpose is and lets us walk in it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and then like even if you do have some huge calling, like say you are called to preach at NAYC, you gotta be careful not to get too caught up on that. Because like Andrew was just saying about ordinary, so much ordinary is gonna happen before the extraordinary, yeah, so much fasting and praying and just living for God is going to happen in steps before you get there. So if you only focus on the big dramatic moment and you think that that's your purpose, that's what you're here to do, yeah. You're gonna start to feel unsatisfied where you're at now because you're not there yet.
SPEAKER_04You're gonna miss so much important stuff that would have led you to that moment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, because we'll get so caught up in wanting that big thing we won't be like we won't even like we'll want it that we don't even remember that we're not ready for it. And all those Bible studies and teachings that you're doing in the meantime are actually just preparing you for it. When like it could be your calling, but you he's also got to prepare you for it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like so that was like a that was like a moral, like don't misdiagnose your purpose. Like your purpose is the same in the ordinary and the extraordinary.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because the ordinary builds up to the extraordinary, just like y'all were saying, because most of our lives, if we think about it, we're living ordinary lives, like we're doing ordinary things, right? Like we're praying, we're reading our Bible, we're going to church, we're doing all these like ordinary quote unquote things, and then those things are building us up for the extra ordinary things, like the preachings, all the other stuff.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. You had touched on it, Andrew, about David. Yeah, David was a shepherd, he gets anointed as king. He doesn't go to a throne, he goes back into the field. Then he kills, like he's anointed as king before he even kills Goliath. Yeah, it's he always stayed faithful to God. He went to the field, then he killed Goliath, then he went back to the field, then he played the harp. Then he ran for his life and then becomes king. He later was like poor David.
SPEAKER_01He went through it, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I feel like we kind of need to go back and touch on like what exactly is purpose. Like we've talked about what happens if we start scrambling, but what is purpose? Like, what is the question of purpose?
SPEAKER_01I don't know the exact definition, but in the Audrey definition, I would say purpose is your reason for being here. Yeah, the reason that God put you here and what God's called you to do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and that's pretty much what uh Pastor Jared said as well. He said the same thing. Um, regardless if you're following, if you have the biblical truth of your purpose is God's purpose for you, he put you here for a reason. That's the core of it all. You like walk into a room or a place and you're like, Do I have a reason to be here? Like it's not like more so do the people love me, do they accept me? Am I loved here? Because you can feel loved in a place and still feel like you like purpose in a place. Yeah, but yeah, it's um we all intrinsically understand it. Um, do I have a reason to be where I'm at? Do I have a reason to be here? Am I placed here for a purpose?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that's good. That aligns with Audrey's dictionary.
SPEAKER_06So Audrey's dictionary is pretty close, pretty good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so um we talked about Scramble
Legacy Chasing Versus True Calling
SPEAKER_01One. Scramble two was chasing legacy instead of living in your calling. That's a good one. That's a really good one. Yeah, because it could be so easy, like in your workplace or in school or like wherever you are to try to make a name for yourself. Yeah. And try to be the most popular there and have all the cool friends and be the cool person instead of like living your calling. Because you're chasing titles and you're chasing fame, and this might not be everyone, and you might not even realize you do it. But it's like little things, you know, like just everyone has that small desire to be popular, you know. Like it's just human nature.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you're probably like what's driving this is probably will I be remembered, or what what will people think of me once I'm gone?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, things like influence, or like you want to have be a good influence to people, or like y'all are just saying, your legacy or just recognition. Um, those things on their own aren't really bad. Like, yeah, it's a good thing if you want to be a good influence to the people around you and you want people to see Jesus in you and have that better their way.
SPEAKER_00Or you want to be like remembered well.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like that's nothing's wrong with that at all. You should want those things. But if you start prioritizing that, yeah, and that becomes your purpose, then that's where you start missing the mark. Yeah. Because you're gonna chase that. Um and then Pastor Jared, he used examples from the Bible. Um, the people from the Bible, the big figures that you think of, like Moses, like Abraham, they weren't trying to put forward their own name or build their own legacy. Yeah, they were they weren't trying to be a story in the Bible, they were just being obedient to God, yeah, and that is what led to us reading about them thousands of years later.
SPEAKER_01Their quiet faithfulness led them to their legacy.
SPEAKER_06Them simply being obedient to the voice of God is what grew all those things naturally. So you gotta keep in mind what you chase, you gotta prioritize and make sure you're being obedient to God instead of trying to push your own name out there.
SPEAKER_02And yeah, you also have to make sure you're consistent in your obedience to God because you don't like God blesses the consistency, like it doesn't even matter how small or how big it is. Like David didn't get to be king because like God was just like, Okay, you're a shepherd, now you're a king. Like he was faithful continuously through his life to God, so God bless that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yep. So if you're faithful in the little things and what God has placed in your hands right now, then later he can trust you in the big things because you were faithful in the little things. And Pastor said, and whenever you're faithful in the little things, then whenever God promotes you, quote unquote, to big things, then he knows you're still gonna be faithful in the little things. Yeah. So you'll still be faithful in reading your Bible five minutes a day or praying five minutes a day. Yeah. Whenever he blesses you with other things to do.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah.
Different Callings Same Jesus
SPEAKER_06And then he um he kind of went away from that and started talking about how your purpose doesn't look the same for each person. Yep. We're all gonna have different purposes. And he used the um he used the story of Mary and Martha in the Bible. I'm sure we've all heard it. Um, even if you haven't been in church a long time, you've probably heard the story of Lazarus. Lazarus dies, and three days later Jesus resurrects him.
SPEAKER_02And three three days was Jesus' resurrection. He was dead. Sorry guys, I just love Jesus so much.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, four days. Um yeah, four days later Jesus resurrects him. Like, that's a pretty popular story that most of us have probably heard. Well moral of the story is Jesus was chilling with Mary and Martha, and Mary was there just listening to Jesus talk, and Martha was going around the house like preparing the meal, and Martha got kind of fed up, and she was like, Jesus, tell her to help me, tell her to help me out. And Jesus was like, um, he was basically just like, No, like you can't tell her what to do, basically. Like, she's here listening, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. And it confirms that through the story where um after Jesus resurrects Lazarus, um, he goes, he's talking with Martha, and she has the revelation that he is the Messiah. Yeah, and she got that and she was serving, she wasn't doing anything wrong, and then when they all hang out again, and Jesus with Lazarus now, Mary and Martha, Martha's still serving. Mary is worshiping Jesus again. She's at his feet with a very expensive perfume, and Lazarus is there too, and they're all doing their different purposes. And Jesus was making the distinction clear that you all have different purpose, and that's okay. Like he didn't tell Martha she was wrong for serving, and he didn't tell Mary she was wrong for worshiping and not serving like Martha. And so I thought that was a really good uh statement.
SPEAKER_00That's a good perfect like a perfect example, yeah. And after Pastor told that story, I think he quoted TF Tenny whenever he said, Every healthy church needs a worshiper, a server, and a living testimony. We do not all have the same purpose, but we serve the same God. Yeah, and so it's just so it's just so mind-blowing to think that from person to person, church to church, or even like in the same household, because Mara, Mary, Martha, and Lazarus were all in the same house. Each of each of them had a different purpose. Yeah, and so like my purpose won't be the same as my three siblings. Yeah, yeah, because everyone has a different purpose, and that's okay. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06And one real key thing that I kind of want to hit on is the fact that they all had different purposes, but before all that, they all three had a relationship with Jesus. Yeah. Because Jesus knew them. Um, John 11 3, the two sisters sent a message to Jesus and tell him, Lord, your dear friend is very sick. Jesus, they knew Jesus personally. Yeah. And then in John 11, 5, and 6, it says, So although Jesus loved Martha, Mary, and Lazarus, he stayed where he was for the next two days. Jesus knew these people personally and loved them. They, yes, they all had different purposes, but Martha's only purpose was not to serve. Mary's only purpose was not to worship. Yeah. They're all of their core purpose is to have that relationship with Jesus. So I think that's a key distinction that like it's not saying that you can only serve. It's not saying you can only worship. You're still called to have a relationship with Jesus before all of that. That's good.
SPEAKER_00Like your main purpose is to have a relationship with Jesus because he made you for to like to love him willingly, like just for you to have a relationship with him. Like it's just so cool. But then, secondly, like he did give you a specific creative purpose for why he put you here on this earth. Because like he made you to do things that no one else could do, yeah, but you, because you can reach people or teach people in your own circle that like someone else wouldn't even be able to reach or teach. Yeah, but you just have a special flair for it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like none of us in this room are gonna have the same exact purpose. But at the end of the day, we all have to have a relationship with God before we even talking about purpose.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I heard one preacher one time, now his purpose is preaching, so what he was saying was pertaining to preaching, but he said he was talking with God, and uh God told him to stop reading the Bible to get something to preach from. He said, If you know me, I'll give you exactly what you need to say. And that goes back to what you were saying, like Mary, Martha, and Lazarus, they had a personal relationship with Jesus, and because of that, they were able to do their purpose to the best of their ability. And this preacher was saying that because he knows Jesus, Jesus is gonna give him and other people who know Jesus the right things to say. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So true. Yeah, I think it's important that instead
Stop Comparing And Keep Stepping
SPEAKER_01of worrying about having purpose, it's important to start believing it. Like not just knowing technically, but believing, like truly not convincing yourself, but like believe it and show it in how you live, how you walk, how you talk, how you act. Because like sometimes you do need a little convincing. You know what I mean? Like we can doubt, like humans naturally doubt things. Yeah, and a person who walks in their purpose can overcome hardships, he said. Because your faithfulness is way more important than your flashiness and who you are to people and what the world sees. Because at the end of the day, God sees what you do when you're alone, you know? He sees your relationship with him.
SPEAKER_04I think us setting expectation as to what we think it should look like creates a lot of doubt as well. Like if I if I know my purpose and I think, oh, this is exactly how it's supposed to happen, or I think it should happen this way, and God doesn't allow it to happen that way, I can begin to doubt, oh, maybe this isn't my purpose. Yeah, but all along, he's ordering every single step that I take.
SPEAKER_00Literally, and most of the time, just like when he was saying, we'll make up stuff about how it's supposed to look. Most of the time, our way is not even God was not even in that part of the field. We're hitting to left field, he's all the way over there and right in the corner, like somewhere way out the way. Like what we think is supposed to happen is so far from how God actually has put it into motion to happen. So if we just start making up stories of how we think it's supposed to happen, we're gonna be so disappointed.
SPEAKER_06Like, yeah. I was like, like if you're called to sing and you're trying to get to that level of being a singer on Sunday, but you just have this preconceived idea that worship leaders are supposed to single you out and be like, God told me you're gonna be the greatest singer in our church, and then you go up and you sing, and the entire house is speaking in tongues and on the floor face down weeping on your first solo, like it's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, and then if that doesn't happen and you genuinely believe that that's how it was supposed to go, you're just gonna be disappointed. Yeah, and now you're gonna be like doubting God for a problem you've made up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's funny. That's like the perfect example of like the real life example of the dot, like the texting bubbles. No, like which like it just did not happen. Never sinned.
SPEAKER_06Then at the end, you're just like, God, where were you? And God's like, bro, I never said that was gonna happen. How are you talking about?
SPEAKER_00That's funny. So the moral of the story is to wait on the Lord for your purpose because you do have one, and whenever we are faithful, purpose will follow. So just keep stepping.
SPEAKER_06Keep stepping.
SPEAKER_01And just remember, God didn't ask us to change the world the first day of being a Christian. Oh, He just asked us to be faithful and to follow Him.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_01Amen, sister.
SPEAKER_06And while you're being faithful, don't can compare your purpose to others. Yeah, we like we talked about it, we all have different. Purposes. That's exactly what Martha tried to do, and Jesus was just like, No, you all have purpose. Yeah. So don't compare.
SPEAKER_00Comparison is a color.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_00We have everything.
Proverbs Reading Plan Starts
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, um, you guys did Proverbs 10 through 13 last week, right? 12. 12 through 13. That's what I meant. 10 through 12. I wasn't here, but you know.
SPEAKER_06We missed you so much.
SPEAKER_00We did miss you so much.
SPEAKER_01I missed you guys. I did my notes in there. Okay, anyway, I'm rambling. But um, so this week we'll do Proverbs 13 through 15. So y'all can start us off, whoever wants to.
Proverbs 13 Wisdom Has Outcomes
SPEAKER_00So I whenever I read Proverbs 13, it kind of okay, so hold up. So a lot of the Proverbs chapters we have been reading so far are just compare and contrasting the lives of wisdom and folly. Like the metaphors of wisdom and folly. And so Proverbs 13 I found is contrasting the outcomes of wisdom and folly. So we're not just talking about wisdom like as a person. We're not we're not just talking about what she could look like or what folly could look like. We're talking about the outcomes of what could happen if you choose these paths, which I thought was pretty cool. No, it is a good I didn't think of that. Yeah. And so, like they said they compare speech in Proverbs 13 and 3. And it says, Those who control their tongue will have a long life. Opening your mouth, yeah, opening your mouth can ruin everything. And so, right here, it is comparing and contrasting w what happens when a wise person opens their mouth and what happens when a foolish person opens their mouth. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think that verse was made for Lincoln. I'm joking. I'm literally joking.
SPEAKER_02That was so awful. He looked so concerned.
SPEAKER_05What did I do? You didn't do anything, bro.
SPEAKER_01You may find an um Andrea earlier saying we'll have a month free for Oh yeah. You deserve it.
SPEAKER_04She's going off to Montana.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, she is. But on a real note, like the tongue, we always hear it, you know, tongue has the power of life and death.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01But it's so true. Like your words have the power to build someone up or tear them down completely. So it's so important that because I mean, like they're saying, opening your mouth can ruin everything. It doesn't have to, though. Yeah. Like you can choose to do the right thing. Let's do the right thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's where wisdom comes in. If you open your mouth, make sure you're I always say think before you speak, and is it necessary? Like, is what I'm about to say, do I have to say it? If if if you don't have to say it, you probably shouldn't say it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like am I just saying this just so I can get a get back or feel better about myself or put myself ahead? Like, is this really helping? Yeah. Or is this a backhanded compliment?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, most of the time you're gonna regret it and it's gonna ruin a friendship or a relationship, and you can't take words back. Yeah. It's the one thing you can't take.
SPEAKER_06Like, someone that was trying to help me recently said, Hudson, you really need to start laying off the tacos. And like, did that really need to be said? Did somebody really say that? Yeah. Like, did that really need to be said? No, I don't think so. Wow. No, I made that up on the spot, guys. Don't worry. I'm fine.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. I'm like, dude, who do we need to beat up?
SPEAKER_00I was like, who told you to lay off the tacos?
SPEAKER_06Please don't jump someone for me. All jumped. It was actually uh producer Brian. Please go jump him.
SPEAKER_00PV producer Brian.
SPEAKER_06I'm just kidding, producer Brian did not say that. He's amazing.
SPEAKER_00Or back to Proverbs, they talk about they compare and contrast the outcomes of righteousness and wickedness. And so, like in Proverbs 13, 6, it says, lazy people want much but get little. But those who work hard will prosper. And so it's just it's comparing things, and it's so cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Wait, that was your verse six. That's not true. I think that's why do I have verse six as godliness guards the path of the church? That's verse four. Uh oh.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Am I wrong? I think it's verse four. Oh, you're good. Verse. Go follow, go follow along in the Bible. The Bible. In the Bible. And then you won't be confused like I am right now. Well, I had verse six, so I'll like actually do throw verse six.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah. Verse six was um it says godliness guards the path of the blameless, but the evil are misled by sin. So basically, being holy, doing the right thing, staying on God's side, it guards your path from evil. And when you come to a fork in the road and you have to choose, it helps you. You know? Yeah. But evil people, they will be taken down the wrong path and they will make bad decisions and they will go the wrong way. It's inevitable.
SPEAKER_04I like that verse as well. What I got from it is when we are close to God, we begin to love what he loves and hate what he hates. Yeah, I got that too. If we aren't right with God, we can easily be distracted or might wander off the path because of something that might not have affected us if we were as close to God as we should have been.
SPEAKER_03Oh real mics dropped.
SPEAKER_04If you're not, if you're not quote unquote locked in with God, you see something to the right, you see something to your left. Oh, what's that? Let me check that out. When you shouldn't be looking to the right or left at all.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. And that ties in to verse 21. It says that trouble chases sinners, but blessings reward the righteous. And so I was reading this last night in my New King James Version Bible, and I just read it in New Liv New Living Translation, but I'm gonna read it in the New King James really fast. And so it says, Evil pursues sinners, but to the righteous, good shall be repaid. It's crazy that evil can literally pursue you. I know. Like you ain't gotta look for it.
SPEAKER_04Literally, you have to look for the good stuff and the evil stuff. Oh, it's just fine, so you don't have to do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, just like Licky was saying, like it could catch your attention, and then the next thing you know, it's there. Hello. Real.
SPEAKER_06And you don't want to go looking for it either. Because evil is out there, it's like a predator in the woods. Like, think like a bear, bro. Like it's out there. And you go out there and you hear you see like bear tracks, and you know, if you were listening to Wisdom and you were locked in with God, Lincoln just said, you'd be like, I'm not gonna go into this wood into these woods with bear tracks. But if you get a little too curious, the bears won't find you. You walk into there, and then there's not just one bear, they there's two. And then they murk you. And you're cooked now when you should have just kept walking around by gone home. Yeah. Should have not gone into the bear-infested woods.
SPEAKER_01Literally. Not like it's their home or anything, like they're infesting.
SPEAKER_06I realized that as I said it. That was clearly their home. They're just living. Yeah, bro. That's not a human-infested city.
SPEAKER_01Um, verse 20, which was right before the one Andrea was talking about, um, because 20 is before 21, believe it or not. Oh wow. So verse 20 says, Um, walk with the wise and become wait, become a wise. Oh, become wise. My bad. No, walk with the wise and become wise, associate with fools and get in trouble. This is like key scripture for surround yourself with good people, people who are like-minded because that will help you grow in your walk. Surrounding yourself with people who don't believe the same as you, and they don't even want the best for you because they don't believe the same as you, yeah, it will only bring you down the wrong paths in life, and you will only regret it in the end. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's really good. That's good. I like Proverbs 13.9. It says the life of the godly is full of light and joy, but the light of the wicked will be snuffed out. So as Christians, we should be a light, as Matthew 5.14 says, it says, For we are the light of the world. But those who reject God and live the way they want to, their light won't continue to shine. And I want to highlight that almost all of the time, sin is shiny. It looks good, it looks flashy, but one day it's gonna go out. The light's gonna be blown out. But our light, the light that God gives us, won't ever go out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And like snuffed, like your light being snuffed out, like that's kind of forceful. Yeah, like it's not your light, you're it's not like your light's gonna peacefully go out.
SPEAKER_04No, it's getting blown out. It's gonna be snuffed out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like that is forceful.
SPEAKER_02That's like goodbye. And then you won't even be yourself anymore. Like you won't even be able to, like, it won't even be you at that point. It'll just be sin controlling your life. Literally, like when your light gets snuffed out, stuffed, snuffed, snuffed. It's been where's the word out?
SPEAKER_04And if it's getting snuffed out, that means you probably didn't see it coming. Because one day you're just flashing. Imagine a candle is just sitting on your desk. Just little light above. The fire is just waving a little bit, and all of a sudden your your breath is gone. That candle didn't know what was coming through.
SPEAKER_02Well, then, and literally the next verse says that the next verse, verse 10, says, Pride leads to conflict, and those who take advice are wise. So, like, you could have even been warned, but you're like, nah, I'm too good for this. Like, I know what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_05My candle is super strong, dude.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this flame will never go out.
SPEAKER_04Super duty wick. Is that what it's called? Super duty wick. No, no, no. The uh the thing you light on fire is. It never goes out.
SPEAKER_00It is a wick, but it's not a super duty wick. Wait, are you talking about the lighter?
SPEAKER_04No, no, no. The thing you light on fire.
SPEAKER_01Because you're doing this, the thing you light.
SPEAKER_04No, the thing the little the little the wick. Yes, the wicked light. It's a wick, it's not a super duty wick.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, super duty without a big one.
SPEAKER_04No, it's called a super duty wick.
SPEAKER_06Oh, his candles do not go out in his house.
SPEAKER_04Sometimes I gotta blow twice, bro.
SPEAKER_06But yeah, I like what uh I like what Ramsey just said, because that's a key theme that I picked on over um Proverbs 13 through 15. Throughout all three of the chapters, there was this constant theme of discipline versus pride.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Where like literally the opening of Proverbs 13, Proverbs 13:1, a wise child accepts appearance's discipline. Yeah. A mocker refuses to listen to correction. Proverbs 14 9. Fools make fun of guilt, but the godly acknowledge it and seek reconciliation. Um, it's a constant theme talking about the difference between how dis how uh prideful people, like Ramsey said, they're not gonna listen to correction. They'll they'll look at things like guilt, like it just said, and make fun of it. Like, you feel guilty? How stupid of you. Like literally. I'll say things like that. And like it's the key theme between like being disciplined. Yeah, you have to be open and humble to correction, whether that be from God or mentors or your pastor just in counseling in your life. Like, you gotta be open to that. You can't be prideful, you can't grow if you're prideful.
SPEAKER_04And we should we should want to be corrected in a sense. Like, if I'm doing everything right, yeah, that means you don't have the right people around you. Yeah, like I don't want my friends to tell me when I'm doing something I shouldn't be doing, like, hey bro, chill.
SPEAKER_02Like talking right now.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm talking about. Wow. Or sometimes, like, we'll even know whenever we're doing bad things that aren't good, and then we still do them. Like, guys, what are you what are we doing? The entire all of the Proverbs mostly that we've read so far has literally just been begging you to live a righteous life.
SPEAKER_02I'm telling you, Proverbs is literally just like spitting out word for word of like what you need to be doing. Like, they're just like, don't be prideful, listen to your elders.
SPEAKER_01That makes sense. What do I do?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Proverbs is like, hey, don't follow the evil people when they say we should go kill someone.
SPEAKER_05Like, but um what but really that black and white?
SPEAKER_00There gotta be some great areas.
SPEAKER_05What if they don't really want to kill people though?
SPEAKER_00What if they're just there to have fun by killing people?
SPEAKER_05It's not a heaven or hell issue.
SPEAKER_00Oh next thing you know, you're dead.
SPEAKER_02Well, back to what's it called? Correction. Um, I wanted to add on to what Hudson said is the correction is also most of the time coming out of love. Like nobody's ever gonna be like most okay, most if not all the time, people aren't trying to correct you because like they just think what you're doing is like dumb. They're trying to correct you because like they want you to actually live a good life and try and prepare you for like literally your future. So correction is mostly out of love and it's never really out of hate.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because like in school, um, if you're in school and your teacher like corrects you because you broke a rule or something, yeah, they're not singling you out and being like, oh, you talked at a turn, like conduct mark or whatever y'all schools do, ours did conduct marks for a hot minute. Um they're trying to prepare you for the next grade when they will not tolerate it. Oh, I was going to college or with the walls. Oh, that too. But a lot of the times in school, they would say that won't fly in college. Uh-huh. Last week, I literally threw a piece of paper at my teacher because she asked us to, and I hit her, and we got a f another free absence and another free work. She got rewarded for being so unserious, y'all. Like, it flew.
SPEAKER_06They say that stuff won't fly in college, bro. My professor, three times a semester, has canceled Friday class simply because he didn't want to come to campus.
SPEAKER_01I want that professor.
SPEAKER_06That was this exact reason in the email.
SPEAKER_01I don't think they told the professors that this wouldn't fly in college. Like they like literally students got the memo though. Literally. That's funny. Um, are y'all done with chapter 13? Yeah. Move on to chapter
Proverbs 14 Home Words Fear Of God
SPEAKER_0114. Yeah. I like chapter 14. I know me too. I love like my favorite one so far. Actually, I lie, I kind of like them all. But verse one says, a wise woman builds her home, but a foolish woman tears it down with her own hands. And this is a subject I'm like, like what's it called? Like, passionate about.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because like I really believe that women are like the heart of the home, you know? No, yeah. And they make it a safe space. And this might not even be what this verse is talking about right now, but this is like my side note rant on like why women are the heart of the home. And like it's traditionally supposed to be that way. You know what I mean? No, yeah. Like, women are like the temperature of the home in a way. Temperature? Like temperature, like, yes. Like the attitude, like they the environment revolves around how they are feeling. Yeah. Like, if you have an angry woman in your house, then it's going to be angry. But if you have a sweet no, the household, like the people. The household congregation, if you will. And like, but if you have a loving and like spiritual sweet wife and person, woman in the world.
SPEAKER_06The story is do not marry an angry woman.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I'm telling y'all. Because a wise woman is gonna build her home. But a foolish one, you can tear it down with your own hands.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, makes sense. Because the women is like, generally speaking, raising the children. So like that's like the whole house. Like, normally the husband's working, but like the woman has to keep that home grounded.
SPEAKER_01And this is obviously like this ain't how it really is much anymore. Cause like in society, we need like double working fams, which it's valid. Double incomes are needed today.
SPEAKER_00No, but for real. But like in history, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So we're not adding you, trust. Yes, yes, yes. Anyway, but that's pretty much my take on it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I like Proverbs 14. What? 13. Proverbs 14, 3. It says, A fool's proud talk becomes a rod that beats him, but the words of the wise keep them safe. So just as that one was good. Yeah, just as James said, uh, I don't remember what chapter it was, but he says, Our mouth, our mouth is full of deadly poison. Oops. And then when we allow foolish and pride prideful words to come off of our tongue that already cannot be tamed, bad things are bound to happen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Literally.
SPEAKER_04Like it's gonna happen. But when wisdom steps in and we think before we speak, like I said earlier, we asked the question, is this necessary? We'll be safe from the backlash of foolishness foolishness. Like just think before you speak. Use wisdom.
SPEAKER_00It'll save you from so much trouble. Literally, literally, we'll say foolish things, and then we're surprised whenever we get consequences or it it blows up. Like literally, we should have expected this before we opened our mouths. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like if you're still a kid and your parent tells you something that you don't like, like go to bed. And the first thing that comes to your mind is, no.
SPEAKER_02Shut up, mom! Shut up, mom. Silence from you.
SPEAKER_06Little little uh piece of advice for someone that grew up with parents.
SPEAKER_03Keep it inside.
SPEAKER_00Oh, literally. Or like, I would love to have a bedtime now. Like I I'm going to bed so late just because I have to study and do college things. Like, I would love to go to bed at 8 30, like my parents made me do whenever I was little. That was such a side note, but I agree so much. Literally.
SPEAKER_05Bedtimes are important.
SPEAKER_00Bedtimes are important. I also loved Proverbs 14, 26 through 27. It says, Those who fear the Lord are secure. He will be a refuge for their for their children. Fear of the Lord is a life-giving fountain. It offers escape from the snares of death. And so right here it's talking about the fear of the Lord and how fearing the Lord, giving him reverence, and just being in awe of him is a life-giving fountain. That's crazy. Yeah. Because if you think about it, a fountain is like really bubbly and energetic and like goes everywhere and it's just beautiful. And so the fear of the Lord it literally gives you life and it helps you escape from death and like the snares of death. Because a snare was like a trap. Because like in my mind, a snare would be like something that kind of like a bear trap in my head. I don't know if it's actually like that. But you know, something like that.
SPEAKER_06I'm sure that's the that's the vision, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that that's what's in my head. That's the Andrea dictionary picture. Real picture. And so those who fear the Lord, who are in awe and reverence of him, are secure, just not in their relationship with him, but in their lives, like physically, emotionally, and uh mentally. You know what I love is that like a fountain doesn't like it can't run out of water.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the fountain just keeps taking what it has and it just keeps putting it back, and it's like it's just always flowing and beautiful and full. Literally.
SPEAKER_00And it can even have little fish at the bottom. So like it's like your fountain, your fountain could be full of fish.
SPEAKER_06That only happens with you if you eat them. Then they'll be in you the fish.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_06You're comparing us to a fountain.
SPEAKER_02I have no words. I was like, what?
SPEAKER_06You're comparing us to fountains and saying your fountain may have fish in it, bro. Those fish are not getting in the fountain if you're the fountain, unless you eat the fish.
SPEAKER_00No, but they make it pretty well.
SPEAKER_06I gotta see the vision.
SPEAKER_00In this moment in time, in my mind, we're not the fountain. We're the we are we are comparing the fear of the Lord to a life-giving fountain. And so, in my mind, if we're picturing a life, a beautiful life-giving fountain, then we're in somewhere really pretty that has the little fountain, and then we could have little fish blue, blue, but in the bottom.
SPEAKER_06That's tough. Wow.
SPEAKER_00And so in this moment, I respect it now, are not the fountain. We aren't visiting the fountain, but sometimes we could be the fountain because okay, think about it. If we have reverence for the Lord and we are in awe of him, and then then we could beat the fountain in this picture. But a few seconds ago, we were not the fountain, but now we are the fountain. So mine is all the vegetable. No, I'm hearing you out. I got you.
SPEAKER_01I liked it.
SPEAKER_04Back to Proverbs.
SPEAKER_01We've said that like three times already.
SPEAKER_04I like Proverbs 14 30. Oh, preach. It says a peaceful heart leads to a healthy body. Jealousy is like cancer in the bones. Preach. So I did a little bit of background studying on bone cancer. Oh bone cancer. I was I said cancer like the bones, and I what I found about it, found out about it, is it's not completely deadly if treated fast. And so what I took from this is God gives us peace which surpasses all understanding. But this verse says that those who have jealousy, jealousy is like cancer in their bones, and bone cancer is one of the more deadly cancers, uh, but because it it because it travels fast, if not treated fast, without a guaranteed cure. So this is literally saying that jealousy travels fast into the deepest parts of us and can only be cured by giving it to God and actually seeking God who gives you peace. Like you have to if you have bone cancer, you have to get it treated ASAP or you're dead. And so this is saying if you're if you deal with jealousy, you better get rid of it now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or like not even jealousy, but unspiritual healthy aspects of your life. Because I researched gratitude at one point and like the effects it had on your body, and if you are not living in gratitude and in a grateful life, it can do it can physically affect your body to where like you become very sick. And so if you're not so if you're living in jealousy or ungratefulness or just spiritual things that are not biblical, then it can uh physically, emotionally, and mentally affect you in ways that you never thought possible.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So get rid of it now. I love that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let go of it.
SPEAKER_00Take the grain and put it in, like put back so that you can dance on the grain that you want to live in. Wow.
SPEAKER_04Let's see what you did there.
SPEAKER_00Love that, Andrea.
SPEAKER_01I liked um verse 8 of wait, chapter 14, verse 8. And it says, the prudent understand where they're going, but fools deceive themselves. Fools will just fly by the seat of their pants and they'll just be like, you know what? This seems like a good place to go. Let's just go. And they do it and they get lost because they don't know where they're going. Literally. Like you have to plan ahead for things, and you can just what? Basically, type A rules. Type A?
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Type B. Yeah. It was a joke. Those are. No, let's all laugh. Laugh. Laugh. Thank you. Thank you. Go.
SPEAKER_00Okay, no one didn't. Okay.
SPEAKER_06We'll let that one sit on there.
SPEAKER_00Fools deceive themselves. Like, hold up. Pause to rewind. So the fools don't even have to like have other people deceive them. The devil doesn't even have to deceive the fools because the fools do it all by themselves. So that way the devil can just leave them to dig themselves a hole of deception because he's like, oh, they'll do it themselves. I even gotta step in. Y'all, y'all, do not be a fool.
SPEAKER_02That's why people who don't live. Okay, that's why people who live of the world sometimes think that their life is like it's so great. Like, why would they change it? It's because like they're living their own and the devil doesn't have to ruin it for them because they've already ruined it for themselves. So, of course, living for God will create more challenges for them because you're actually doing the right thing. So the devil will try and stop that. That's why it'll be harder.
SPEAKER_00Because God never said this would be easy. But he told me he would remain. Dude, you were not real. That's a lyric from one of the Urgent God never said the life would be easy. That's what it sounds like. That's a great song from Urgent Bible Golly.
SPEAKER_06Voice of an angel.
SPEAKER_01Literally shameless tag. Plug. Anyway, and then going off of verse 8, verse 9 is like the same vibe. It says, Fools make fun of guilt, but the godly acknowledge it and seek reconciliation. And I love this one because guilt and even like conviction are things that fools will make fun of and they'll ex like they're not gonna think about it, they're gonna ignore it. But as Christians, we know that we feel those things for a reason, and that when we make mistakes and we steer away from God, we feel like we feel a physical separation from God, and we know that we need to stop what we're doing and turn around. But fools they don't think like that, and they're not taught like that. They just think like they're gonna find something to make them feel comfortable and to validate what we're doing. But as Christians, we know that we shouldn't seek validation, we should seek answers. Like we need to seek counsel and like actual help. Not like you need help, but like, like you don't know if you need help. But a fool will just say, Who's gonna make me feel like I'm doing the right thing? And they're gonna go to the first person to say, like, oh, you're valid, you're doing good. Yeah, but a Christian will seek actual opinions and advice from godly people and see if what they're doing is seriously a problem. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's good. That's good. I really liked Proverbs 14, 32, and it says that the wicked are crushed by disaster, but the godly have a refuge when they die. So hold up. The godly are like smushed whenever they go through crazy things, but then the godly, if we're living according to what the Bible says, and we're trying, we're actively trying to have a relationship with God. We have a refuge, we have a safe place, we have a fortress. Because in the Bible, that word refuge literally means a big old fortress. Yeah. So if you think back in like the olden days, whenever they actually went to war like in person and they had to build like forts and stuff, that really big fort is where we have a safe place whenever we die. Like in the hands of the Lord. Yeah, that's just crazy. No, I agree. I like that. Yeah, I really like that one.
SPEAKER_05That's good.
SPEAKER_01I had also verse 12. Did anyone have verse 12? Um, I don't know. But it says there is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death. I really like this one also. That's really good, as well as many others. Because I feel like I could see this in everyday life, like all the time. Because as a Christian and like a college student, and this applies to anyone, like just living life, but especially as a college student, you're constantly faced with decisions that can be bad. Like in college, it could be being invited to parties or drink or like do these things that you shouldn't do. And it's kind of gets hard because it's like the path in front of you might seem right, or it might look inviting and good, but you know that underneath the surface it's not, and it's only going to lead you down a path of destruction. I like the word it looked inviting.
SPEAKER_02Like it, like, hey, you want to come to the party tonight? Like, yeah, they're inviting you. It looks great, but it it will only cause more problems down the road. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it could even be something like you could even tell yourself, oh, like I won't drink, I won't actually do anything. I'm just gonna go for the friends. But it's like, it will lead to more. Literally. It always leads to more.
SPEAKER_02You give an inch and you take them off. And what's crazy is my dad even then, like y'all remember when he preached about that, he was saying that he got invited to a party, but him saying no consistently actually made them wonder like what is different about him. Like, they were like, Who are you? Like, what do you mean you don't want to go to a party? Who are you? And so, like, you could just by saying like no to the thing that seems fun, you could be the witness to it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Literally. Or in Proverbs 22, 2, it's just piggybacking right off of what Audrey just said. It says, People may be right in their own eyes, but the Lord examines their heart. And so, like, we can think that we have it all figured out and that we're right, and that like our way rules, but in reality, like God knows, and we probably know like what's right and wrong, like deep down inside of us. But like the Lord knows what's right and wrong, and He's looking at your heart to be like, Okay, what are you doing? Yeah, you know, and so like some people might not know they're wrong, but they may know they're wrong, and they just ignore it. Don't be in the place that you're wrong where you may know you're wrong, but you may not know you're wrong, because you've done so much wrong that the wrong has clouded your eyes, and now you can't see the right because you've done all the wrong. Yeah, did that make sense? Well, like yes, I get it. Like spiritual numbness. No, yeah, for real. Yes, the numbness. Yeah, that's good. That's a better word for all the wrong things.
SPEAKER_01That's a better word. Wrong when you're wrong, but you don't know you're wrong, but you think you're wrong.
SPEAKER_05I'm following.
SPEAKER_02I liked um verse 13. It just it was a good reminder for me because it says laughter can conceal a heavy heart, but when the laughter ends, the grief remains. And it's just like it it's easy to forget that the happiest people could literally be the most broken. Yeah, and you don't know what home they're walking into, and you can probably never imagine some of the struggles they're going through because they're laughing and like you just think that they're great, yeah, and they're living a great life, but they're really just and they've gotten numb to everyone care for Ramsey, she's been through so much. I have I have all of her laughs are fake, filled with tears behind that smile.
SPEAKER_00I promise, guys. I think there was a study that said like some of the most depressed people seem the happiest in public, or right whenever someone like is suicidal and they're about to make the decision whether they're gonna stay here or not, then they'll become the happiest person they'll ever be because they're another suffering's almost over. Like, there's a study about that that some people get ha the happiest, like right before the end. And that's just crazy because deep down, like, present, they're presenting to be happy and they're presenting to be loving and also all these other things, but way deep down inside they're hurting so much that like you we possibly couldn't even imagine. And so that's just why it is so important just to be kind and loving because you don't and laugh with everybody because just like Ramsey was saying, we have no idea what other people walk through.
SPEAKER_02And you don't know if just giving them a smile, like a simple smile or saying like giving them a compliment could like change the whole entire projection of their where their life is going. Literally, like just be kind to people and show Jesus' light, really. Point of the people to Jesus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah,
Proverbs 15 Gentle Speech Correction
SPEAKER_01and going into chapter 15, um, verse one says, A gentle answer deflects anger, but harsh words make tempers flare. This one is kind of obvious, but it's also like just a reminder, like speak gently and kindly to people, like we were just saying. Like you don't know, not necessarily even that you don't know what people are going through, but like why provoke people to answer harshly and to get loud and yell and angry when like it wasn't really necessary. Like, let's not rage bait.
SPEAKER_02Well, and speaking kind is genuine is genuinely just showing like Jesus through you. Like it's literally it's just showing those people like why like Jesus did not call us to be angry at our people. In fact, he said, Don't be angry unless like for like righteous reasons. Like he calls us to be nice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like and even in one of Jesus' parables that he's or he's talking in the New Testament, he's like, if you are angry with your brother and you're harboring unforgiveness, do not go to the altar and offer your sacrifice. No, leave your sacrifice right there and then walk away. Go ask your brother for forgiveness, go reconcile with your brother, and then come back and offer your sacrifice once you have been reconciled. Yeah. And so that's just a thing. Speak life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because a lot of times when people feel unheard or like, you know, whenever harsh words are said, their last like their immediate reaction is to shut down or to fire bust or yell. You can't have an effective conversation with somebody whenever you guys are both bickering and like loud and angry. You have to speak from kindness because your actions, you never know how much it can affect that other person in the conversation. When you just speak kindly, you listen and you actually care, you know?
SPEAKER_00Literally.
SPEAKER_03That's good.
SPEAKER_00And that ties into Proverbs 15, too. The tongue of the wise makes knowledge appealing, but the mouth of a fool belches out foolishness. So let's let's speak, talk, hold up. Let's think before we speak, guys. Exactly. And we can make knowledge and wisdom appealing. Like people will want to learn it. But if you're talking a whole bunch of foolish, unbiblical nonsense, then you'll just belch out a bunch of foolishness, and people will be like, huh?
SPEAKER_02Well, what's so funny is well, like just a quick jump back to 4 14, verse 7. It literally says, stay away from fools for you won't find knowledge on their lips. Like they they fools will not be able to teach you nothing. Literally. They'd just be yapping.
SPEAKER_00Y'all, mic drop, except these mics can't drop, so we can't drop it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, don't drop it, it'll break.
SPEAKER_00But yeah. Hudson has experienced it for stance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Verse 4 literally also says, we're like, we're just connecting everything to this one thing. It says, Gentle words are a tree of life. A deceitful tongue crushes the spirit. Guys, once again, the power of life and death is in the power of your tongue. Yep. Like you, your words mean so much. And honestly, take that like in a good way. Like, don't think of like it in a negative way. Think of it like, wow, I can really uplift someone today. I can really help someone. I can make someone.
SPEAKER_00I can really make a difference in someone's life.
SPEAKER_01Want to stay here on like I can make someone's difference in their decision on what they're gonna do tomorrow. Like what you know what I mean? Yeah. Like whether or not they're gonna stay or go on this earth, like we were saying.
SPEAKER_00Or just you know, be in a good mood in general. I personally loved Proverbs 15 3. It says that the Lord is watching everywhere, keeping his eye both on the evil and the good. And this is just a simple reminder that the Lord is always watching over you. Like no matter what happens, God is watching you. He has his eye on the good and the evil person. So even if you could be walking through the most diabolical thing, and then the Lord is like, Hey, I got my eye on you. That's a song somewhere hitting in my head. I got my eye. No, not that Toby Mac. I own it, Toby Mac.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, everything, every thought we have, thought, every action we've made, every word we've said, everything that our eyes have laid on, like he has seen it all. It's like Andrew said, even like uh Psalm 23 says, Yeah, though I walk through the valley of shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.
SPEAKER_00I rocked my right. That's another Toby Mac song. You know my heart. So the Lord, the Lord is always here. Like, even if you can't see him, he's working.
SPEAKER_01Real. I think that's another thing. It's funny because y'all took that two different ways. Like, Andrea is over here, like, he sees you, you're seen, he loves you, and he's like, he sees everything you've done. I'm like, we're taking it so many different ways, and I love it.
SPEAKER_02In the same vein, uh, verse 11, it says, even death and destruction hold no secrets from the Lord. How much more does he know the human heart? So like God, God knows, and he hasn't forgotten you, and he's still with you, and you can't ever forget that. Like, he's seen it all. Like, there ain't nothing God ain't seen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and like the Lord made the human heart, like he literally made us, like he crapped us with his hands, and so like he knows all the ins and outs, but then also like he knows you because he made you, yeah, and he has a plan for you, literally, and he's given you a purpose and a plan.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I liked Proverbs 15, 16. It says, Better to have little with fear for the Lord than to have great treasure with inner turmoil. In the New Testament, I was reading a few days ago, and he was talking about the rich people. He said it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person and go to heaven. Yeah. Because once they be get all these riches and stuff, they begin to rely on themselves. And so this proverb is literally saying it's better for you to just have nothing but a relationship with God, than to have everything and no relationship with God.
SPEAKER_00Literally, and it goes on to say a bowl of vegetables with someone you love is better than a steak with someone you hate. And if we're being real, I love steak. Vegetables depends what kind I may love or not. But like something that you may not like is better to eat with than something that you love and like is good with someone that you diabolically don't like.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Or a fool per se. Like someone that will not be benefiting you. Exactly. And so, like, that's just crazy. I thought it was very cool how it used like the bowl of vegetables, because like it's just vegetables, to like a steak, and a steak is like really yummy. Why do we hate on vegetables?
SPEAKER_01Like, why is that just the universe one day woke up and was like, vegetables or no? Kids were like, No, we're done. We stop here.
SPEAKER_00Certain ones I'm not a big fan of, but I really like like broccoli or which is so funny because most people hate broccoli. Yeah, I like broccoli, are like are like cooked broccoli, and you put like the seasoning on it, that's good.
SPEAKER_01Drop your favorite fruit down. Wait, drop your favorite vegetable down in the comments. Um, another one I loved, loved, love, love was first 10.
Backsliding Discipline And Getting Up
SPEAKER_01It says whoever abandons the right path will be severely disciplined. Whoever hates correction will die. And I'm about to get a little deep because I think this is a really important topic. So I think that the term backsliding, we take that as a simple, cutesy term, you know, like kind of like, oh, he's backsliding, like he's not here today. But it's so much more than that, like genuinely, because it's not simple. There is something so different about someone who knows the truth and they know what is right and what's wrong, and they choose to not do it. Then somebody who doesn't know, don't get me wrong, somebody who doesn't listen because they don't know is still going to be punished. But there's something so different about somebody who knows the truth and they refuse to listen to it. It's so lukewarm because you believe the right things, but you refuse to listen. And you have one foot in and one foot out, and that's gonna go wrong. Like you know what I mean? Like it's like it's right here in this verse. Whoever's wait, whoever abandons the right path. Like the word abandoned tells you everything. Like they were once on the right path, but they chose to get left.
SPEAKER_04They've completely rejected it.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And that's just so dangerous because imagine you are given life and you know what God wants from you, and you and you know the plan of salvation. Like you know it's biblically true, you've found it out and all these things. You've gone to church, you're in church, and then all of a sudden you start making not all of a sudden, it happens gradually, right? Like no one just backslides, quote unquote, over and wake up one day and test it out, test the waters. You start making compromises and decisions that don't align with the word of God, and then eventually you're not even there anymore. Yeah. And I I honestly I can't even imagine my life without God. Like I had surgery back in November of 2025, and I had to miss a Sunday. And I was sitting in my living room watching the TV and the for the service, and I was like, I can't imagine what it's like to live without God. Because I could I couldn't even stand being away from church for one Sunday. Like that's just crazy. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01It's just because it says at the end, you will die. Like whoever whoever hates correction will die. Yeah. Like you will spiritually lose yourself to the sins that you were committing because you were lukewarm and because you want to test out the waters and you were tempted and you just want to keep doing what you're doing.
SPEAKER_00And this is why it is so important that we are that we are godly examples to everyone. People in our houses, our friends, our people we go to school with, who we work with. Um, this is why we are so it's so important we are godly examples. Because I have watched people in my life and around me leave the word of God and what they know is to be true. And that's just crazy because the people that you might never think would struggle with their faith do. And then one day they leave, and then you have to like you try to bring them back. Like you're not bringing them back, like God is bringing them back. But then you just have to trust at that point that it's it's in God's hands. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's so it's so crazy because how in verse 10 where it says whoever hates correction will die. In verse 5, it says only a fool despises appearance's discipline. Whoever learns from correction is wise. And it's just like there's just there's no in between. You you will either be wise or you will die.
SPEAKER_00And it's like you can't you can't have one foot in and one foot out.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Or even in verse 32, it says, if you reject discipline, you only harm yourself. But if you listen to correction, you will grow in understanding. And so Proverbs makes it very clear the outcomes of righteousness and foolishness. What what why what what it kind of getting amen? It draws a distinct line.
SPEAKER_04Amen, sister.
SPEAKER_00It draws a distinct line for what happens whenever you're wise, and then what happens whenever you are foolish. And so I just think we have to just keep mentally checking, just like Hutton said on the last podcast, is this wise? Is this is this a wise decision? Will this bring me closer to God or will it push me away from God? Like, will this decision please God? Am I making him happy? Think about it. Like, what emoji is God right now? Is he smiling or is he crying? You know what I mean? Like the angry red face with the fist up in the air, like are you making God cry laugh? Are you making him smile? Are you making him mad? Are you making him cry? Yeah. Are you making him cry?
SPEAKER_06Or are you making him do the skull emoji because he just did something so stupid?
SPEAKER_02He's like He's like, I'm dead right now. Oh my gosh. This is so funny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's funny.
SPEAKER_06Like I knew that was coming, but I still can't believe you did it.
SPEAKER_00Right. Like for real. Imagine that. Like, it's hard for me to think, okay, so God knows everything, right? Like He knows what you're gonna do before you even do it, and all the other stuff. But like, I guess God doesn't get surprised by what we do.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But like still, I feel like if I was God, I'd low key get I would even if I knew what you were doing, I feel like I could kind of get surprised and be like, bruh, did she really just do that? Like, I was really hoping last minute you'd spit your mind.
SPEAKER_01No, like for real. It like tricked me for once. But nope, that doesn't happen. That'd be the confused emoji. Yeah. Another one I like, this is the last one I had, was um verse 29. It says, The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayers of the righteous. Oh, that's good. Doing wicked separates you from the Lord. And obviously, we all do bad things and we all sin, but it's what you do after that determines, like, you know, what happens. Do you stay down the wrong path and do you continue walking forward down that and getting deeper and deeper into your sin? Or do you turn around 360, no, 180, and ask for forgiveness and put yourself back on the righteous path. Because messing up once is not an excuse for staying how you are. Literally. And failing a few times doesn't mean that you're done or you're too far gone. It just but don't let it get to that point. Yeah, literally. Like something I'll always say to people, like I say to myself too, like genuinely, I try to think of this, is that when you're making decisions now, remember that you will have to answer for this one day. Like what you do today or tomorrow or in your life right now is going to be something that whether or not you ask for forgiveness, you're gonna have to answer for. Yeah. Like, remember, don't get so far that you don't even know what you're gonna say on that day. Like you can't even explain yourself. Wow.
SPEAKER_04She preaches. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's good. And that ties in perfectly to Proverbs 24, 16. It says the godly may trip seven times, but they will get up again. But once disaster is enough to overthrow the wicked. So the godly, just like Audrey said, you can fall so many times, but just get back up again. Like that's the only thing that matters is you get up again and then you strive to not make those decisions. Yeah, yeah. But then the people who are living a foolish life and who are living in their folly, their fountain of fool of foolish actions, then one thing can throw them completely off track and they're done for.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. Like this, like the same, the one of the craziest examples I've ever seen for like just because you fail once does not mean like keep going. It means like get back up again. It's like, have you ever spilt on yourself? Like spilt a cup of coffee or something, like a little drop? Oh, yes. Did you did you stop there and just keep pouring the cup of coffee on yourself? Like, oh, I got my time. You gotta type it out. You cleaned it up and you moved on with your life. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_06But like, did you spill on yourself and then just never drink coffee again every time?
SPEAKER_02Or yeah, or did you never even try coffee again because you spilled it?
SPEAKER_06Like, oh, I spilled one drop. This is not for me. I can't do that.
SPEAKER_02Let me just dump this whole cup and never.
SPEAKER_06I'm so clumsy, I can't drink coffee without spilling it, so I'm not gonna do it. Good analogy.
SPEAKER_02That is so good. It's like I never heard that before. Why would you just continue to do that to yourself? Like you get up, you keep going, and you stay strong. You get back up again. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's also a song.
SPEAKER_02She's got all the songs today.
SPEAKER_00I will get back up. Is that that one? Yeah, from Troll.
SPEAKER_06But alright, guys, we've talked about a lot.
Final Takeaways And Follow Instagram
SPEAKER_06We we finished up Pastor Jarrett's um series on the seven primal questions. Again, kind of sad to see it go. It was a really good series, helped me a lot. Um but moral of the story again, like we've said every week, just know, read the Bible, and understand the truth that your purpose is given to you by God, and that's just your purpose at the end of the day. Your purpose is just to be obedient to God, and everything else will come. And as long as you understand that you have purpose, your purpose is to be here on earth because God put you here, yeah, you'll be alright. So just kind of do some reflection. Think of think of how much like better your life could be if you just took in that principle and understood that that's your purpose. None of these other things are being are your purpose. Being a successful business owner, being a successful college student, being a successful high school student, none of those things are your core purpose. Your purpose is just to be obedient to God.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_06And then I'd encourage you to read along with us in Proverbs. Proverbs is a very good uh book of the Bible. Literally have a pickup on that by the fact we're going over the entire book. So just half it through. Be wise, like we've been saying. Be wise, hold your tongue when you need to, and just really read the book and understand its core principles and apply them to your life. And you will be wise. Like it's that simple.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we've talked about a lot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I love Proverbs. I think that 13 to 15 had some good stuff. Yep. It did, very juicy. And once again, Pastor Jared brought a word and got some instructions. We're heard. Oh I know y'all like that. Okay, y'all. Make sure to follow our Instagram page. Um, not sure if we posted yet, but we're gonna start on that one day. I promise. I promise, bro. As soon as it follows we're gonna post track. Okay, guys. We'll see y'all next week. Bye. Bye, guys.