Full Strength Podcast
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Full Strength Podcast
Episode 20 - Stanley Cup Finals
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The week the guys discuss the various sports news from the past week including the death of two sports legends and their predictions for the Stanley Cup Finals.
Hello everybody, welcome to Full Strength Podcast. It is I, Brandon Michael. We are here on this beautiful day. I'm here with Steve Wood, of course, Brandon the stuff trainer and Nick Brown. Big week. We've got a lot of stuff going on. Um, hockey is you know coming down to the nitty-gritty here. Uh, NBA playoffs as well. We've got a New York team in the finals. I know Nick fans are going nuts. Um, also have just a bunch of plethora of little stuff. So let's get it kicked off. And Steve, how's your week, my man?
SPEAKER_02I had a good week. Carolina's uh kicking ass, so it makes it a good week. They it's just done. Yeah, they're they're I yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I mean everyone. Yeah, Raleigh's gonna be they're gonna be planning a parade. So yeah, good week, man. Great time to be in Raleigh. Brandon the stuff trainer. How is it, man?
SPEAKER_03My week was a little sad, saying goodbye to my students for the summer. Oh, yeah. We are welcome to summer. But then I got a little pick me up when I wandered over to my mailbox and saw my major award waiting there for me.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the hat.
SPEAKER_03Oh now I'm officially good trash can everybody.
SPEAKER_02That's a great logo.
SPEAKER_00Beautiful hat. There you go. Nick, how was your week, my man?
SPEAKER_01Uh, my week was good. I spent money on a hat to send to somebody because I lost a bet. Um, I know this is gonna sound dumb, but I have lived in my house in Flagstaff for five years, and I've always wanted to put an American flag on my house, and I never did, and I did this week, and my house looks way better.
SPEAKER_00Right, man. Yeah, happy Memorial Day to all those who have fallen. Uh, police, fire, EMS, and of course, military. Um, that's uh you know, just an absolute ultimate sacrifice is what we are celebrating this weekend. Um, love to see the flags up and people, you know, paying homage to you know people that have passed. Uh, you know, my first career, uh, that's where I met Nick was in uh the fire service. Um it's yeah, man, it's just you think about the people that that we lost. I've been involved in some funeral processions, and it's those are always just absolutely just you know horrendous in itself. And it's like, you know, I I implore people to just go to a national cemetery. San Francisco's got the Presidio, um, absolutely just beautiful place. And you walk through, and it's just like it's kind of hard, it's mind-boggling when you look at all of the white, the pure white headstones. It's just like it really, really puts that into perspective. Like, you know what those people did, and you know, the sacrifices that families make. It's um I have family in the San Francisco. Yeah, do you? Yeah, DC. You know, it's just man, yeah. So right on, Nick. I'm glad you hung one. It's like uh, you know, showing support for that. It's it's just uh yeah, it's so important, man. Yeah, to not forget how this great country was built, and it's you know, the sacrifices that those those men and women have made, and and the you can be patriotic without being political, too. It's weird. So but uh anyway, right on. So moving forward, um we've got some we'll we'll hit real quick, you know. Again, you got the New York Knicks going to the NBA finals. I know New Yorkers are pumped, but good grief. I just don't see how I don't see how they're gonna be uh OKC. You know what I mean? I I know that series isn't over yet. Don't kill me, San Antonio fans, but good grief, man. That's that's gonna be that's gonna be a tough one.
SPEAKER_01But game six is tonight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's just fun to see New York. They they love the Knicks. Um, yeah, it's great. The NBA finals are back in the garden.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they're New York is getting ready for that too. I was reading it, they were reading about it. They were for each game, they're gonna be doubling the police presence in the area.
SPEAKER_00Fans are fans, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_03Brandon, what were you gonna say? I tried watching a Thunder game. Uh man, it was terrible. They got a they got a player on there shy, something or other. Yep. Oh man, does he flop like there's nobody's business? Like there's nobody around him, and it looks like he got shot by a shotgun or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, unfortunately, it's just yeah, it's part of it. It's you know, yeah. Unfortunate part of the game now.
SPEAKER_03They can always like they have in hockey.
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SPEAKER_00Um, like Nick said, you got game six tonight, San Antonio and OKC. If you want to tune in for that, um, also, hey, big news. Shout out to the uh Northwestern, Northwestern lacrosse, Northwestern women's lacrosse beat uh University of North Carolina. So congrats to them on a national championship in women's lacrosse. What a great sport that is. I watched the highlights of that game. And forgive me, I can't remember the names. I should have jotted them down, but you know, there's just a couple girls that are just, man, they're so good. And the way that they and it's such a physical game, right? It's very comparable to like hockey, um, you know, with the physicality, and god, these girls are just going at each other, and this girl still gets this goal to go, and it's it's just funny. The final score was 12 to 11. So big, big, big ups to them. Um, I again lacrosse is just what a great game. What a great game. It's it got a heavy play. It's a fun game, it dude. I mean, it's harder than it looks. It is. Have you ever played catch? Yes. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02It's not it's actually a lot harder than it looks.
SPEAKER_00It does they make it. I mean, like any sport, you know, the ones that are truly elite, they make anything look so easy, right? It's like, but gosh, man, they are so good, and it's so fast.
SPEAKER_02It's it's really hard to get that ball to go straight, too. Isn't it? It's like that release flick. You have to do it just right to get it to go straight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, my brother Nick played, and yeah, it's it's great, you know. Um, my son, he's you know, big time hockey player, and he's good at almost everything he does. And so he's been bugging me. He's like, Dad, let's just get some lacrosse sticks and play catch. I'm like, yeah, we're gonna do that this summer. So we're gonna yeah, try to learn it, and it's like, you know, so anyway. Um, yeah, so that was UN uh Northwestern and UNC. God, man, I gotta double check, man. I hate to be misquoted, but I believe it was Northwestern.
SPEAKER_01I just want to make sure uh it was the Princeton Tigers defeated Notre Dame 16-9. What do you what are you talking about? We're talking about lacrosse national championships. Yes. I thought the tigers won. I don't know. I never got a lot of things.
SPEAKER_00On ESPN, uh Northwestern won the 2026 NC2A Division I women's lacrosse championship defeating the North Carolina Tar Heels. It was 14 to 11. I apologize. So, but yeah, it was Northwestern. I said 12 to 11. I was incorrect. That is my fault. Um, anyway, uh also big obviously uh PWHL did end. Uh Montreal, guys, Montreal did it in four games. Um, let's just talk about real quick the PWHL growth is just already it's so massive, right? Um, they've said the uh the people that started the league, they had a 10-year plan. They said they're so far ahead already financially. They um they're not granted. Listen, they've got expansion teams, they're not turning a profit yet, but their numbers are already so close with even all the investing that they're doing. They said we never thought that it would be this good this fast. But you look at the attendance numbers for the finals were 16,000, 15,000. I think the last game game for was like 14,000 or something. It's like so. It's like they're they're they're packing the houses up there in Canada and in the US. So it's it's incredible that it's only three years in. They're already the demand is so incredible. Obviously, we already announced how they're going into four cities, so it's like, man, it's just yeah, it's great. I I'm just you watch women's hockey. I keep trying to tell people that argue about you know the WMBA and how it's a snooze fest. And I'm like, yes, but listen, no, this is great. This is action-packed, it's like the Olympics. You guys, everybody that enjoyed that is going to enjoy the PWHL. These girls can play, man. It's like, what is what is the one muscle in the body that women can in some form kind of compete? It's leg muscle, right? Obviously, men are much stronger in the upper body, blah blah blah. Okay, but that's why women are fast, man. These skaters, guys, they're not that far off from the men. Granted, I understand any men's team will blow them out, but it's like, dude, this is good, fast, great hockey.
SPEAKER_02I think there's a good crossover for women for women fans, too, when it comes to hockey.
SPEAKER_00And the sport is growing at the youth level fast, it really is. In big hockey markets, obviously, but yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02So I mean, I know football has a lot of female fans, but hockey has a lot. Oh, yeah. What do they call it? It's a lot easier to cross over when it comes to uh men's hockey and female hockey for the fans.
SPEAKER_00Sure, absolutely, and again, the entertainment value and the action is there. I love that the the women's you know, players union is like, you know, they want they want the cages gone, they want to play the game as pros. There's you know, in the first year, remember, there wasn't even they checking wasn't even allowed, there was no body contact, and so it's like, dude, this is stupid. What are you doing? Like, stop treat, stop pamp, like it's like they were afraid they were gonna get hurt. Yeah, it's like these girls are hockey players. You know what I mean? Like, stop. No, don't no. So it's like I love that they're you know, I think they're just they're opening it up more and more. Like, fighting is gonna they want to fight. Let let these girls fight. Let's go. Yeah, I mean exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, let them go. And it's like the physicality is great, there's still no like open eyes checking or anything like that, but it's progressing in the right way. It's just you're just gonna bring more fans into the building. If you don't like fighting, or oh, they're such savages, it's uncouth. Shut the F up and move on, please. Try Batman. Yeah, anyway, and again, the excitement is massive. I know in San Jose and Las Vegas, it is already huge demand for tickets. San Jose is gonna sell out. I guarantee Vegas is gonna at least come close. You know, Hamilton, Ontario is gonna be huge, and then Detroit. I think Detroit is a little bit of a toss-up, but I believe it will be successful at some point. Just based on what I'm seeing about tickets and like requests.
SPEAKER_02So I it's still in that good area for hockey, though. Yeah, you kidding? Yeah, it's Detroit, it'll be fine. It might get might get rough. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Brandon, you gonna get tickets?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I might pick up season tickets depending on how much they are. We'll see. I got you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't think they're terrible. I mean, it's like and the season is so much shorter. You know, it's yeah, but it's it's it's good stuff, man. That's the other thing is I think they're going to pick up the uh the number of games as well. So, but we'll see. So, but uh anyway, yeah. So also, uh listen, speaking of Las Vegas, um, Las Vegas lost a you know, very, very competitive, just overall good person. Um, was very, very good to the community in Las Vegas. Um I, you know, I'm not a NASCAR fan myself, but I know enough to like, at least I know some of the drivers. I know Kyle Bush was a good driver, he won a lot. Um, but he passed away. Um he got severe pneumonia that went it it went septic, which is essentially an infection in your just starts spreading through your body. It's like sepsis is so bad, it can happen so quick, and if it gets to that point, it's it's it's tough. And so that's that's what happened. I guess he had like severe, severe pneumonia. Um, it went septic. He ended up in the ICU and passed away.
SPEAKER_01It developed into it developed into DIC is what I read.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it just that's it's terrible. Yeah, so sad.
SPEAKER_01I mean, just and then the 911 call was heartbreaking because you I'm so I'm mad that I listened to it.
SPEAKER_00It just sucks. You're talking about a guy that wasn't in good, he was in good shape. Like watching his wife holding their son, and I'm just like, uh this. Yeah, so sad sucks, man.
SPEAKER_01Two-time NASCAR uh cup series champion.
SPEAKER_00Yep, is that yeah, the whole thing, yeah. The season champ, it's uh yeah, uh, I just a great driver who's great for NASCAR. I know that, and you know, he's one of those guys that fans some fans hated because he always beats their driver, you know. It's like I I I don't know, Brandon. How's the community dealing with it there in Vegas?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, community showing their support for him. You know, there was a tribute for him before the nights game, yeah. When it happened, you know, yeah, I actually did see that. Yep, and you know, in NASCAR, you know, the even the CEO said to the family, you know, don't worry, we got you. You know, I believe that NASCAR is like all about community.
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SPEAKER_03Oh my god, no.
SPEAKER_00I I can I can see that. I know back in long, long, long time ago, I mean like oh three, oh four, I think, or maybe oh five, it was uh I remember working that in NASCAR, and again, I worked in Vegas, and uh I just don't I I think it was then I realized the following that the acting has. There was 150,000 people fill the stadium, right? The the racetrack, and then you've got 30,000 people that just show up in campers and just party for a week. It's pretty neat, it really is cool. I mean, it's it's wild, and I'll tell you what, man, I don't think people realize how many former athletes, like former pro athletes, are part of these pit crews. I was just looking that up and I'm like, oh my gosh, there's a lot, guys. It's it's it's cool to watch them work. Um, I've never got a chance during a race, obviously, to be in the pits, but it's like you watch it and it's pretty incredible. A guy that I went to uh paramedic school with was uh works uh for NASCAR as a as a firefighter paramedic, I think. And haven't talked to him in a couple years, but yeah, he's him all his whole family, they just travel around. His wife's an RN and uh yeah, they travel around. So that'd be a good gig. I mean it's cool, but I'm glad to hear that, Brandon. It's you know until the car blows up. What's that, buddy?
SPEAKER_02I said that'd be a good gig until the car blows up. What what do you mean? Being a paramedic and RN will go following the NASCAR. Oh you're saying in an accident? Like no, it would be a good job. He's just saying it'd be nice job to work until there's a wreck. Until there's like a car exploding and the person's inside. Okay, I gotcha.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, obviously that's never a good situation no matter where it is, but yeah. So, but uh yeah. Anyway, um, yeah, rest in peace, Kyle, and I just condolences to your whole family, uh you know, friends, family, NASCAR itself. I mean, I don't know, you know what you say there, you know. It's just yeah, it's brutal. Too soon. So young. So yeah. 41?
SPEAKER_01Younger than I am, but he's older than me. Or younger than me, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's it's just stinks. It's you just and to something so sudden like that is just man, just absolutely brutal. So um, yeah. Anyway, uh, Brandon, you were going to cover something about uh the WWF, is that correct?
SPEAKER_03Well, AEW had double or nothing last weekend, which is probably gonna go down as the best pay-per-view of the year because that show was amazing. Not a bad match on the card. Standouts for me was uh finally beating Okada for the international championship. Slightly sad for me because Okada is one of my favorite wrestlers in the whole world. Oh, good, right on, good, and then you got Stadium Stampede, which is a seven-on-seven match, which is just basically Looney Tunes in action. It takes place all over the entire stadium doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Gotcha, okay. Yeah, man. The main event was uh Darby Allen's world title championship ring finally coming to an end at the hands of MJF, sadly.
SPEAKER_00Gotcha, okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, gotcha, right? And then also we had uh Indie 500 recently.
SPEAKER_00Yep, we were. I was just gonna have Nick lead us into that, but go ahead, yeah, go ahead. That was next, Brandon.
SPEAKER_03All right, yeah. I love the Indy 500. It was won by its RosenQuest setting a record by winning it by just two thousandth of a second.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it beat the former record. It was uh, I believe it said 0.8 or no, it was one point something, so it was like, yeah, which was 0.023. Yeah, if you watch the highlights of the one that it broke, it was it was crazy. Like it's it's you know, but this one was just wild. What was crazy about what he did though, third third place going into the final lap, like the way that dude drove and won that was just incredible. He was aggressive, quick, and just wow. I thought it was impressive watching that highlight. Like I was I was like, that was insane.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, he won in first place, he won 4.3 million dollars. Yeah, new record for indie second place was I believe 1.5 million. Yeah, so 0.02 seconds was a difference of three million dollars. God damn.
SPEAKER_00You know, looking at the guys, the driver's face in that highlight was like you could just tell he was just absolutely dejected. Like, are you effing kidding me? Like, I can't imagine that yeah, that feeling to get beat that like that. Because he had, I honestly going into that, like if you're looking, if you I thought he had a pretty comfortable lead at one point in that final lap, but it was like, or at least he was holding him off. Like, I was like, Oh, he's got this guy just I thought it was incredible.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he was definitely blocking him every chance he got. I didn't think he was gonna lose it, but man.
SPEAKER_00No, it just that's just truly elite driving. I mean, it just yeah, I it it was it was it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool, of course, they get to go and do the you know kissing of the bricks and all that stuff. So it was yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Um yeah, Nick, did you want to was there something you had said you wanted to talk about? Yes.
SPEAKER_01I was just gonna quick talk quick about the huge international flop that was the enhanced games, also known as the steroid Olympics. Um it was listed as the the biggest selling point was that these enhanced athletes, which are athletes that are allowed to under doctor's supervision. Take performance-enhancing drugs, steroids, and things. Um, their whole thing was that they were trying to beat, outperform traditional uh Olympians and set world records, and there was going to be cash prizes for every world record broken. Um there was only two, wasn't there? Yeah, and one of them, I think, was set by a clean athlete who was also there. That's right. The stock from the enhanced group dropped 50% after the close of the games. Um, it was a heat, like they were expecting to make all this splash about how PPE should be talked about. Um there was only a small number of world record level performances. Um I said the uh oh they were trying to they were also trying to sell their peptides at every commercial. This is such this is some funny. The world we live in, it's like idiocracy. Um they were trying to sell their peptides. That didn't work. So now they're throwing out a blanket challenge to anyone who can beat Usain Bolt's record that he set in Berlin in 2009. You can win $10 million. So put your running shoes on, everybody. Get out there and start training. And uh, if you can beat Usain Bolt's time, they would give you $10 million. Uh, but yeah, I was just laughing. What do you guys think about the uh the flop that was the enhanced games?
SPEAKER_03Well, this was in Vegas, right?
SPEAKER_01I believe uh I think so. I'm not totally sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I didn't see any promotional anything here in Vegas for it. Really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, it was a big flop. It was I mean, yeah, it would have been cool to see like once, but to try to make this into like a reoccurring thing because it's gonna be so cool. Like, that's you missed, I think you missed the vibe, bro.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I completely forgot it was even happening until you texted us about it.
SPEAKER_01I was waiting because like the I know the mountain was there from Game of Thrones, whatever his real name is, the Icelandic giant who's like nine foot tall. He was powerlifting. I was like, that'd be cool to see if he no. Um it was just a whole bunch of no.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it just shows you how these Olympic athletes train, though. I mean, people doping can't even compete with them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, these guys are top-tier athletes, and they kind of got proven here uh at the Enhanced Games, which will always be referred to as the steroid Olympics when I talk about it going forward.
SPEAKER_02Although this kind of does bring up an argument for the people that have gotten in trouble in the past for using steroids. Is it really giving them an advantage?
SPEAKER_01Interesting take.
SPEAKER_02I mean, there was only what two record breakers, and then there were those record breakers weren't even by that much. I mean, it was less than a half a second for most of them.
SPEAKER_01For that when you're talking when you're at that caliber of competition, though, like a half a second is a lifetime. I mean, a half a second's like the length of a pool when you when you you know when you're swimming.
SPEAKER_02So well, like the I guess the biggest I was just reading in here, it looks like the biggest one was for swimming, and it looks like the person beat it by zero point.07, the world record. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, but it wasn't. Exactly. Overall, huge flop. Takeaways, waste of time.
SPEAKER_00Waste of money. So so moving forward, we've got NFL, a little bit of NFL news. The LA Chargers locked in, Derwin James, uh, making him the now highest paid safety in the NFL. Once again, uh, depending on the position, that seems to happen every year. This guy just literally, I heard about a negotiation where one player was like, just pay me five dollars more than that guy so that I can be called the highest paid. So the the ego sometimes is kind of astonishing. So um, also, uh, I mean, I I don't really even like talking about stuff like this, but unfortunately, it's just part of the world. But uh, Green Bay Packers um are kind of evaluating its uh running back room after following the arrest of Josh Jacobs on domestic violence charges. We don't know what happened. So I am not gonna sit here and get on here like some of these really, really ignorant people online and start saying what happened. So we don't know what happened, but the Packers are doing an investigation, as are the police, and that's where uh my opinion stops on the whole matter. It's we don't know what happened, that's it.
SPEAKER_01So till we do, why bother?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's I'm not going to do this because as we've seen in the past, uh people call 911 and make accusations. And what I think is the sad thing here is that um I think a lot of people's knee-direct reaction is she's probably full of shit. That's what people are gonna say. And what sucks about that is somebody that actually is a victim of domestic violence or sexual assault is that there's been so many people falsely accused, and it turns out that it was completely false. Patrick Kane, Duke lacrosse.
SPEAKER_01Who's the who's the pitcher from the Dodgers who was the Cyon winner? He's now pitching in like J.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, who sued the girl, won, and she's still being investigated, as you know, possibility of probably gonna be indicted on federal charges. So it's uh yeah, so that's what sucks. The punter from the Bills, the girl tried to ruin his career as soon as he gets drafted. Um, he wasn't even at the party. Uh, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02There's also a lot of hate going around the kings, or not the kings, the uh the knights for Hart being accused several years ago of complete and what's sad is that people don't get online and do the research.
SPEAKER_00You can literally read almost everything that was said in that trial. That girl should be in prison. Yeah, I don't I didn't really read it. I just know he was found not guilty. Of course they were. The fact that the prosecutor even brought it is kind of absurd. The judge didn't need much time, it was just, yeah. You can go and read everything that was sad. So girls that actually go through something really bad now, you have that doubt in your mind, and this poor female is going through hell. But because of these succubuses, there they they there's a doubt in people's minds, and then and all of those cases, by the way, as soon as they were accused, people are out there online, like, you know, well, that's scumbag be a prison.
SPEAKER_02Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty.
SPEAKER_01You don't even have the other side, which is you know anything she says is truth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or and then you have the uh the people that anybody that makes money, oh they're a criminal. I don't like them because they're successful, they worked hard, yeah. So anyway, it just yeah, it's unfortunate, but again, with that situation, it's you know, I don't we don't know what happened, we don't know what's going on. It's you know, the police with domestic violence nowadays, it's police are forced if they show up on scene of a call, they have to take somebody. So, um, but again, we don't know what happened. Um, if he is actually guilty, it's you know the NFL's taking it pretty serious. This it's pretty pretty serious uh suspensions and stuff.
SPEAKER_03So just let the process work its way out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. And for the record, I mean it's it should be if he is found guilty, like absolutely. I think they actually should make it to the fullest extent of the law. He should not get special treatment because he is an athlete.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think they should be stricter on people that are found guilty for these kinds of things. You know, only getting suspended, what, two or three games? No, they need to be out seasons or or done. Or done. I mean, they need to be they need to feel the pain when it comes to losing the money for not being able to play because a lot of them don't even get prison time.
SPEAKER_00No, I you look at because they have such good lawyers. Yeah, we're talking right now about this, and we'll bring it up is Henry Ruggs from the Las Vegas Raiders, who was going what, 115 miles an hour in a 45 mile an hour zone, drunk, way drunk, and plowed into the back of this girl's car. She died in the fire, as well as her dog. Um, I it's he's up, he's already up for parole.
SPEAKER_02And most normal people would get five to ten years for that.
SPEAKER_00I know. I have uh somebody that uh I'm related to that killed a mother, she was eight months pregnant, and a nine-year-old little boy killed them high on alcohol and cocaine in a Tahoe, doing 74 miles an hour crossed over a two-lane road and plowed into a small little Toyota Tercell, if I remember correctly.
SPEAKER_02And how long is he serving time for?
SPEAKER_00Oh no, no, he's already out and still drinks. Um, he uh did nine years, man. But he did nine years, that's what I'm saying. And there's a man husband, a husband. Who and this happened a couple weeks before Thanksgiving, also and then he put a cop, two cops in the hospital in a fist fight in the hospital.
SPEAKER_05So anyway, it it's I believe everybody deserves a second chance.
SPEAKER_00We've all done dumb shit in the past. We you know, you pay your consequences, that's fine. And to a degree. This no took a life, man, because of ignorance. Took a life. Three years in prison, and here's what sucks. Dude, this dude's gonna get out. He's gonna get to go back to being a professional athlete.
SPEAKER_01Do you think somebody is do you think somebody will sign him?
SPEAKER_00Of course. Of course. That's where it's broken. Yeah. That's where it's broken. So anyway. That's my two cents. I I really hope Henry Ruggs does not get out of prison.
SPEAKER_02In other news, it looks like Patrick Mahomes might actually be back for week one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so that was the other that was next. Um, you know, he's saying that he's it'll probably be game two or three, but I mean, just the fact that that's crazy.
SPEAKER_02I mean, that's a quick turnaround for an ACL.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy. Yeah. But I mean, he's world-class athlete, so and he has world-class trainers and surgeons, doctors, and yeah, absolutely. We'll see. I think it's still come see, come sa. That's so so in French.
SPEAKER_02I like I said, more realistically, it'll be game two, three, maybe four.
SPEAKER_00But I mean, I still can't believe it's that quick, though. Like it's you were thinking, I was thinking what, week 14? Yeah, I was mid mid somewhere, eight, nine. Maybe, but we'll see. You know what I mean? It's you never we don't know. We really don't. So, anyway.
SPEAKER_03I don't see a reason for them to rush it either.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. They're still set up fine for the start of the season. Oh, yeah, they've got the right quarterback. They're I think they're okay. For their system. Um, anyway, moving on to MLB. Uh, gotta bring this one up. Shohei Otani, dude. Uh the kid's amazing. Go, Giants beat LA. This dude is legit, man. So he threw six innings of no-hit baseball and hit a 424-foot home run as the Dodgers finished off the sweep to the Rockies. Does anybody sorry, it was six and two-thirds. Hold on, I might be incorrect on the no. Oh, no, no, okay. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, that's right. And then a 424-foot home run. Do people realize that this is like not even generational, guys? It's bigger. This is a once-in-every hundred years type of player. So I implore anybody, if you're in an area, I and you have a chance to go see Shohei play and pitch, dude. You gotta go just to say you went. And please, please, for the love of God, eat a hot dog.
SPEAKER_01Oh, don't make a picture of you eating a hot dog at a baseball game, so we can send it to Steve. God, make sure you do, because you'll never hear it down if you do not. Steve's phone number.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, yes, yes. So, yeah, go go watch. Go watch Otani play. He's just just fun, just just a great he's god, his power is just insane. It's insane. If you have a chance, go watch batting practice with Shoei. He's that type of player where you want to get there early just to watch him take BP. So, anyway, um, Nick, I did want to tell you that the Cubs did stop their 10-game losing streak. I know. Um, yeah, they just absolutely, man, you want to talk about a beginning of the season collapse.
SPEAKER_01No, it's uh it's been rough baseball over here.
SPEAKER_00It'll be okay, buddy. I'm a Giants fan, so it's uh we have what's going on there.
SPEAKER_01Are we the first team in baseball history to have two 10-game winning streaks and a 10-game losing streak all before 50 games?
SPEAKER_00I it's possible. The crazy thing is they're still, you know.
SPEAKER_0160 games, sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're 30 and 26 now, but I don't know. It's still it's a long season, man. Who knows what's gonna happen? You know what I mean? It's like you got I still think you got the three teams I thought were gonna be at the top, which is Milwaukee, St. Louis, Chicago. I just didn't know in what order, but the division's still the division's still great. The Pirates are in last place at 29 and 27.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00What do you think, Steve? Giants gonna win the World Series? Sorry, Brandon. Brandon's a Giants fan, so. Of course the Giants are winning it. Are you gonna be able to catch any minor league games, Brandon?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I plan on going. I got a lot of free time this summer, so as well catch some aviator games.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, go some aviator games. What are you gonna eat? Not a hot dog.
SPEAKER_04Nacho's spears, nachos, or maybe a big old hot dog.
SPEAKER_02Skip the hot dog. Oh, Steve. Oh, Steve.
SPEAKER_00I don't even care after he eats a hot dog, he's still gonna get shit for that. You're 45 years old for crying out loud. You've never had a hot dog at a baseball game. You are a broken human being. Apparently, I am. What? I'm just kidding. I'm sorry. I just you know, whatever. So, anyway, that's it for uh, you know, baseball and everything, and kind of just covered a lot of sports here. So let's let's uh let's get into something real quick. It's time for my weekly uh rant. Is this what grinds my gears? So here's the thing the NHL draft, like all drafts, we know. Oh my god, it's like you have this guy saying this, and this guy saying that, and this team's gonna do that. It's like if you're if you're gonna make a comment about something, at least at least understand that GM's like mo. Like go do a little bit of research. Toronto, as we know, has the number one pick. Okay, so sadly, the world is subjected to the Toronto sports media nonsense and their diarrhea of the mouths. Okay, so this guy, I get on and I'm just scrolling through like social media at night, and this guy gets on, and he's like he's like, Well, I could see the sharks totally trading the number two overall pick to Toronto for Austin Matthews. In what effing world in your small little brain would you think that Mike Greer would do something so absurd as that and take on his what ten and a half million dollar a year contract, whatever it is. That's just a guess. Why would I just don't understand what goes through these idiots' brains? Like, are you kidding me right now? No, they're not gonna do that. Mike Greer has built this entire team uh through the draft. He yes, he made a couple of trades. He traded one of his first round draft picks that he got in the Tomash Hurdle trade from to Vegas. That's what turned into Yaroslav Oskarov. That trade that pick ended up going to Nashville, so he did do that trade, and he traded a second uh later second-round draft pick to Vancouver for Keefer Sherwood. Okay, who he signed to a five-year extension because Sherwood's gonna be a great third line guy on this team, right? He's got a lot of grit, fits right in. That's it. Okay, he has built this entire team through the draft. He has not traded picks, high picks, he's done what he needs to do. Second of all, it's very easy to see that the sharks are not gonna trade that pick. And in fact, they're gonna draft a young stud defenseman by the name of Chase Reed. It's like, and it's all over the place. It's like, oh god, they're and it's it's always, you know, seems like it's Toronto, but it's like it's like just I just just stop. At least understand what these GMs do, right? Like Vegas. Let's talk about Vegas. What does Vegas do? Vegas trades a lot of their first rounder higher level picks for an already established player. It's how they've built their team. That's fine. That's fine. Don't sit here and be like, well, I think uh, you know, I think Vegas might package their first and their second rounders and maybe trade them so that they get a high pick to replenish their their farm. It's like on what planet would he do that? Brandon, what do you think? I know you know Vegas is G. It's like they keep throwing these absurd ideas at me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they like going for you know the guys with you know great players who are stuck on languishing teams, you know, like the captain of the team, Mark Stone, they took from Ottawa. Jack Eichel. Yep, from Buffalo.
SPEAKER_00They trade these picks and and get these guys that are still good and are still great. Now, they're like Vegas again. Like, I don't want to get stuck on one team, but Vegas again, like, listen, when these guys age out, Vegas is gonna be in a tight spot for a little while. I like their prospect pool is not the greatest, you know what I mean? But that's fine. That's just how this guy's doing it because they're in win now mode. They are win now mode, so it's like that's what they're gonna do. I just don't understand some of these media outlets when they put together these just ridiculous like ideas. It's like, where are you guys at? Like, if I'm gonna say something about a GM, I'm gonna look through and be like, okay, maybe he might do this, or maybe so and so might do this. But it's like this guy's MO says absolutely not, he's not gonna do that. And for us, they just see that San Jose, for instance, we'll go back to San Jose real quick. They see that yes, they have a ton of cap space. Do they know why they have a ton of cap space? Because Mike Greer also does not sign big name bullshit free agents that are gonna cost eight to ten or eleven million dollars a year. Why? Because he's drafting all these young kids, right? When their deals come up next year, he's got hurdle contract coming off the books, Timo Meyer money, Brent Burns, all these guys that he got rid of for high draft picks. They're all he wanted to keep them on payroll so that he could keep spending that money to keep you know hitting that floor. Next year, he's gonna have upwards of 90 million in cap space so that he can sign every single one of these young guys for max contracts.
SPEAKER_05Mine is Mark.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I know Detroit doesn't have a first round draft pick, but you guys got a good defenseman out of that trade. So that was uh that was a good deal. It's not It's not a bad that was a good pick, Nick. So but uh anyway, I don't know. What do you think, Steve?
SPEAKER_02It's the I was just reading looking that up, actually. And they're had it's for somebody to trade their draft pick in the top 10 is exceedingly rare. Apparently, last time it happened was in 2016.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it it is because these teams that are at the well, not all of them. I mean, there's and the whole we already talked about it, but the draft lottery people just hate it. They only hate it when it doesn't go their way. Of course. But yeah, uh, you know, Toronto was really bad last year, uh, and they're gonna continue to you know get bad. I I love that Vegas is in the final with Mitch Marter the year after. Yes, Toronto fans hated him, they were just absolute scumbags to the kid and his family. I I I I freaking love it. You know what I mean? It's like it'd be better if you know he could raise the cup, which it's just not gonna happen. But I like he's just I love that, but it's just that it's just that area. I don't know. So, but anyway, so they've got a high pick, and it's like, like I said, they're all they're gonna who knows what they're gonna do with it. Obviously, I think they'll pick McKenna, um, but you never know. You know, the guy uh, Stenberg is pretty amazing. Stenberg's pretty legit. So I I can see that there would definitely be, I would take a hard look at it. I've watched both of their highlight reels, and I'm like, man, you know, I understand McKenna's he's playing in a real, a true men's league right now. Division one hockey is not junior hockey, it is not what it you, you know, juniors used to be a some in for a little while it was almost a better path. But D1 hockey is like just it's incredible. It has been for years, but so he's definitely playing in a tougher league. McKenna, I think, is gonna be great, he's gonna be the cornerstone for an organization, but it's like you know, Vancouver was pissed because they're like, Oh, now we're not gonna get our forward. But it's like San Jose's not taking Stenberg, he's that he's not they're not doing that, they're going for the best defenseman, offensive-minded defenseman, is what San Jose is looking for. Because honestly, they have a they have a great a great uh they've got some great defensemen, prospect, defensive prospects. So San Jose is gonna take that. Then you've got Vancouver, who will get Ivan, you know, Stenberg, and then there's several other great, great players. Like if you're in the top ten, you've got good play, you you're getting a stud. So that's why would they trade that?
SPEAKER_02Why would you trade? I mean, that's the whole point is to get the young talent.
SPEAKER_00That's how I I mean that's how I feel, yeah. So Nick, anything? No, I just are you still pissed about Detroit not having a pick in the first round?
SPEAKER_01No, I remember our conversation now. Um no, I just you see this draft ignorance with every sport that drafts, and that's fair. Yeah, you're right, right? Like every draft, it's like, well, who are they gonna do? Like, we're gonna take this, trade up, and do and then you know. Um I think it's just what it is. I think it's just more annoying to you because your team's involved.
SPEAKER_00Well, no, I literally follow every team, it has nothing. I'm just using San Jose as an example. It's like Chicago, no, I'm just giving you a little bit of a couple of things. You're doing it with Chicago, so it's like I can break down Chicago if you want. Like, so it's honestly just it, it's every team. Toronto's done it several times, and they're like, Well, we could put together this package and this package, and it's like Chicago is not gonna do that, right? Stop talking. Like, you just sound so dumb.
SPEAKER_01Out of those top ten draft picks, those kid, the kids that are gonna go in the top top ten spots. How many of those top ten draft spots will play in the NHL next year?
SPEAKER_00Next year? Uh, probably honestly, probably none. Maybe Ivan Ivar Stenberg.
SPEAKER_03Um most of them already have deals.
SPEAKER_00Or commit deals to sign a contract and what not giving commitments to their some, yes, some of them do. Uh Chase Reed is playing at Michigan State next year. Um I was thinking of Simone Wang, but where's McKenna got another year of eligibility? McKenna can no. So here's the thing. McKenna apps no McKenna can once you're in college, like he can go whenever he's ready. So, yeah, he can be available for the NHL next year, but only the NHL. Remember, to play in the AHL, you have to be 21. Oh, that's right. To play in the NHL, you can be 18, 19, or 20. So if you if a player at that age goes to the NHL, they're in the NHL. There's no going back to college, there's no, you know, doing any of that stuff. So yeah, I had gosh dang it. Oh, there we go. Um this is me working. This is me working. Wow. Um, yeah, so like again, like Brandon said, there are kids that are coming out of major junior. So like once your major junior contract is over, then you can go play, you know, college, you know, pro, whatever it is, whatever, you know, that's whatever that's for. So um again, uh, yeah, so the guy that the sharks might take Chase Reed, like I said, Michigan State University next year. Um so there's another one. So Caleb Malhotra, he could go three. There might that guy Ivan Stenberg could drop, but I don't want to get too far into this, like, you know, draft talk, but yeah. Um, the other good defenseman is Keaton Verhoff. Um, he's at UND right now, so it's like, yeah, he could come to the NHL. I don't think he's anywhere near ready, but he still needs work skating and a little bit of puck handling, stuff like that. He's great. He's gonna be great. He's gonna be a 60-point a year defenseman, but anyway. I don't know. No, I'm just curious. Yep, no, no worries. So but uh anyway, yeah. Brandon, anything else?
SPEAKER_03No, I just think uh the all the top four prospects are all uh definitely number one draft picks as far as I'm concerned. It just comes down to what specifically each team needs.
SPEAKER_00And that's exactly yeah, and so that's again with this topic again. This is what this is what bothers me is just that. It's like, why don't you understand what that team does? Why would you say something so dumb? It's just gotta be for clicks, is what I'm it it's I guess it's just content. But it's like, yeah, do we really want to get on here and sound completely ridiculous? Like we don't know what we're talking about, or is it like, do you want to put a little bit of like knowledge behind it? It's just so crazy, but it's like, I guess that is, you know, Toronto sports media. They say I I if I was in a st let me paint this picture. If I was an established player in the NHL, I wouldn't even consider Toronto, I wouldn't even take a meeting. I I wouldn't even take a meeting. Every other team, I'm like, yep, I'll be there. When where do you want me? You know what I mean? It's the NHL. It's like, yeah, I'll be I yeah. Okay. Sure. I'd rather just sit out for the year if I was drafted by them. I you know I honestly, it's like, look at you, pull it. What is it? Who is it, Eli Manning? Pull an Eli Manning, dude. Just say F U. I'm not going there. So I yeah, dude. I who else did that, Brandon? Who else did that?
SPEAKER_03I can't remember off the top of my head. The Steelers running Le'Veon Bell.
SPEAKER_00Le'Veon Bell? No, he sat out the whole year because of a contract dispute. It ruined his career.
SPEAKER_03It was also Bo Jackson.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's an oldie a goodie. Yeah, that's right. Um, oh god. I now my brain's going, Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly would not go to Buffalo, so he went to the uh US. What was it? The USFL? Yeah, that was the league back then, the USFL. Yeah. Yeah, Jim Kelly did not want to go to Buffalo, so we signed this massive, like huge contract. They were throwing away money back then in that league trying to get it started, so they were getting all these stars. And yeah, that's now I'm thinking of a couple of them, Brandon. That's great that you remembered. Bo Jackson. What a great drop right there. That was yeah, yep. That's when the USFL was around. Players had that leverage. But as soon as it collapsed, he's like, All right, I'm coming to Buffalo. And he still lives here, still lives in Buffalo. Oh, really? He loves it, dude. He's part of the community, his kid, everything, yeah. So, anyway, all right. So, enough of that. Let's get into the NHL. Holy smoke! So, first and foremost, I honestly did not I didn't realize how bad the injuries really were for the apps. I did not realize that they were in the shape that they were. Um it it we didn't even get the series that we were wanting, hope for. It was like I think the abs would have got beat by just about anybody in the second.
SPEAKER_02I mean, how who who expected the abs to get swept?
SPEAKER_00Well, they dude, I I could dude, I would have said five if they had the injuries that they're dealing with. It's I I agree now, now that we know that they were there, but it when before the series started, uh and did anybody predict uh Las Vegas was gonna sweep the ab if they had the well, I again what I'm saying is if they had the injuries that I knew we knew how significant they were actually were. Like McCarr sitting out, I was like, something's really bad because it's that kind of player, that caliber, he's tough. He's not gonna sit out in the playoffs unless he can't go. No way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did all four of us have the abs making it past this round, right? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we all picked abs.
SPEAKER_00Yep. But again, it's thank you, um, again, it's just yeah, and then losing McKinnon, it like that was that was just uh that was it. It was just yeah, you're it was done now. Oh, you're just yeah, you're completely done. You can't they can't compete without you know, honestly, three of their best players.
SPEAKER_02And they just didn't look good either. I mean, it just they looked I don't want to say beat up, but they just didn't play good hockey.
SPEAKER_00They were beat up. The goalie, I guess. What their goalies are struggling, I guess, with something too. I that's and I'm like, yeah. When I found out that Nishushkin was out, I was like, like, what are we talking about, dude? The team is just they're yeah. I don't know. It just it is what it is. But when you have injuries that are that bad that are keeping players like that out, it's like, dude, you're just you're you're you take away three of your top players. I what are you gonna do? It completely transforms the whole team, regardless of mine. Just the car being out transfers transforms the whole team. If Makar's out, I'm picking Vegas. You take away Valerie Nashushkin. Now we're like, are they gonna compete? Oh, they still have McKinnon. They're good. Now McKinnon's down. It's dude, no. Like Colorado's decent, but no, you're you're just you're you're you're done. Yeah, that Colorado would have been beat by every single team in the playoffs at death if that was the team that they rolled out. Yeah, for sure. It's unfortunate. I feel bad for the guys. I really do.
SPEAKER_01I do. It was sad to see them get swept. Like, I when I live, I lived in Colorado for many years. Um as a red as a Red Wing fan, but yeah, that was my most happiest games to go watch was Red Wing Avalanche games. Those the organization's great. I have a much of fond memories uh about the Avalanche and Pepsi Center and that whole the whole city of Denver. Shout out to my my buddy who used to go to all my games with Scott Barton. What up, homie? Um yeah, sad to see him go, but yeah, I mean it's it's what it's one of the draws of playoff hockey. I mean, not a draw, but it's the unpredictability of playoff hockey. Right. Sure. That's like you know, you what do you mean? What the president's trophy winner? What? It's nobody saw it coming.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a said reason to be able to picking against the abs because they won the president's trophy. Because so few, when you're that good for that long, it's always it's not a curse, but it's it's just you gotta have those down times throughout the season.
SPEAKER_01So it's like there's a cost, there's a cost to everybody, every one of those guys is bottom to be a president trophy winner.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So yeah, so Vegas is into the Stanley Cup final. Um, they will meet uh the Carolina Hurricanes. We just don't know you know when yet. Um they played game five in uh Raleigh tomorrow night at 8 p.m. Um that's yeah, so we got we got that coming up. Um I honestly I feel pretty comfortable if you guys want to make picks now um for the Stanley Cup final.
SPEAKER_03Um, or we can wait and you know maybe we'll we'll have to do a special episode, but we can they announce the potential schedule if the yeah it ends with the next game. Yeah, game one of the finals will be on Tuesday. Yep. If it goes to six or seven, game one will be on Thursday.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I it's yeah, I'm pretty comfortable. Um, you know, I and again I'm like I want to say six. I I don't think it's gonna go six. Honestly, I just don't. Carolina will win tomorrow. What's no, I'm talking about the final, dude. I'm talking about. It it's you're talking about a historic Carolina's a historic team at this point. I you know it's just so dominant. It's it's so crazy. And it's like yeah, I love the Montreal fans. I'm sorry if you're a Montreal fan. I've never like dealt or talked to such a group of people that has absolutely no ability to have an objective conversation about hockey in general. Like, I love the Montreal Canadians in their history, their fans are driving me to dislike them. And I'm like, okay, I that's not me, I'm not that person, so I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. But dude, it's tough. I had a girl tell me she was like, Well, you know, Montreal's gonna win this series easily, and I'm like, what? Are you talking about? I know that's what I hear too. Well, they had such an easy road, and I'm like, What?
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that the Carolina had an easy road to get here, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And she says, Well, they were worse teams, and I'm like, by seven and eight points? I'm like, that's three and a half and four game difference. Like, what are you talking about? And so it was like, and then when they won the opening game, she had all kinds of comments, and people were hammering me in that. Oh, they were. I didn't say a well, I didn't really say anything, and so it was like, now it's it's crickets because we knew this was gonna happen, right? Like it was clearly, you know, a layoff jitters, and it's like it it but they're playing their hockey that they've played through the whole thing, and it's just not I'm sorry, it's they're it's it's not gonna work. Dobriz has carried this team through every single game. He's an amazing goalie.
SPEAKER_02Great. I mean, watching him the the the shots that he stops, it's just amazing. I mean, like Carolina, they don't score a lot. It's hard, they're they're having a hard time scoring. And when they do score, it's on shots that are very unlikely that most goalies are gonna block anyway.
SPEAKER_00Great, yep. Right, and like Montreal will go through little spurts. Like every game, they'll have like a four or five-minute spurt where they get it going, they get some shots on goal. It's like it they've hit 30 a couple of times in the playoffs, but most of the times it's 20s or less. Uh, you look at look at the final in uh the first round. Nine shots on goal, guys. In the overtime, they're just not a great offensive team. When they do move the puck, they've they're just phenomenal. Some of the players. I love some of their players. Suzuki, Caulfield, Hudson is is a great defenseman. Um, it's just they've got tons of these guys.
SPEAKER_02So Carolina's had had more shots on goal yesterday than Montreal had in game two, three, and four total.
SPEAKER_00Watch them. But that's their MO. That's what they do.
SPEAKER_05Quality.
SPEAKER_00It's like I I want to say Carolina in six, just to be polite, but I don't even think it's gonna go that.
SPEAKER_03So, anyway, I think it could go six just because you know sometimes playoff hockey gets crazy, sure. And that's again, it's like yeah, I like their goalie is like amazing. Like that score should have been so much higher yesterday if it wasn't for him.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Brandon, if you go back and watch like the round again, let's just do Buffalo. Oh my god, I saw so like Dobers had highlight real saves every night. Yeah, he carried them to victory in game seven. I remember watching that game because I got the to be there. Uh, we were only rooting for Buffalo because they were the home team, that's what we do. Um, and it was like we root, sorry, let me clarify that. We root if we go to a game, I always buy a t-shirt for the home team and root for the home team. No matter you know where I'm at. It's just that's what that's what I do. So it was in Buffalo, so we were rooting and just wore a shirt, but you know, we're not like sitting there, but uh anyway, it Brandon. The saves, Steve, the saves that he made in that game. Oh my god, he's carried them to this point. He really, really carried them. So anyway, Steve, go ahead, buddy. What do you got? What is it gonna be?
SPEAKER_02For the cup? Yeah, uh, I think it's gonna be Carolina and five.
SPEAKER_00Five. Okay, Brandon. You think six. I I want to say six.
SPEAKER_03Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was referring to this current series against Montreal. Okay, no, we're talking about the final or final is where I reveal that at the beginning of this whole thing, I picked Carolina to win it all. Yeah, in my little bracketology, but yeah, yeah, I want Vegas to win, but I'm still going with Carolina. And just because there's nothing better than a game seven in the Stanley Cup finals, I'm just going seven, just because I hope it does. Just because it's always so exciting.
SPEAKER_00I got you. Yeah, it would be good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_01I yeah. Nick. Hey, I'm gonna be this is gonna be contentious, but I don't care. You guys can eat it. Um, golden knights versus the hurricane. I have the hurricanes winning in we'll say we'll say six. But if it's the golden knights who play the Canadians, golden knights and four.
SPEAKER_04Sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm just saying, you never know. It's playoff hockey.
SPEAKER_00No, we know. Um sorry, but yeah, we no, we know it's like one of those, you know, just um little things. So, okay, ladies, I don't know how last week went. I'm not sure, but we uh have gotten uh some requests to explain icing, and I will go ahead and explain icing and the rule, but also the reason for icing and why it is in place. Okay, so. So long, long time ago, there was cherry pickers. So a cherry picker is somebody that sits back behind the play and waits for a pass to come. There used to be a rule that was an offsides rule that was expanded and it was a two-line pass. You used to have it so you could not, a pass could not cross two lines. It could only cross one line. If it crossed two lines, it was offsides. It was an offsides or a two-line pass. That was also something that combated the rule for against cherry picking, which is somebody that just again sits back, waits for a pass, and then goes in on a breakaway. So this was for fair play. Icing, again, was one of those things where it was like players were just shooting the puck down the ice. There was no whistling, it was just like a race. People would get hurt because of the high-speed collisions. There was so many reasons. So they made it icing. They said, if you're going to dump the puck, meaning throw the puck down into the other side of the ice intowards your offensive zone, attack zone, you have to hit the center line. That's the red line where they take the face off in the beginning of the game. So that is what you have to do to not get an icing call. If you pass, if you throw the puck and it is not, it cannot be touched by anybody. If it is untouched behind the red line, going towards the attack zone, that is what icing is. It is considered uh illegal clear. Okay, so that's icing. I hope this helps. A little bit of hockey knowledge for you.
SPEAKER_01No icing, no longer just for cakes.
SPEAKER_00Sure. So yeah, we've got icing. If you want other rules explained or anything else, please reach out, let us know, and we will absolutely happily talk about it.
SPEAKER_03But for clarification, let's add in that the icing is allowed when you're defending on the power play.
SPEAKER_00That's true. It's a good point, actually. Yeah, that's a really good point. What he's referring to is if you have uh a power play, if you are on the opposite side of that, where you have a player that is in the penalty box and you're down a player, that is a power play that Brandon is referring to. So if you are the defending team, meaning you are on the penalty kill, you can throw that puck all the way down because you're shorthanded. So, yes, like he said, that is when it is okay. So if you see it, don't shout icing, icing, when it they're on a penalty kill. So thank you, Brandon, for bringing that up. That's a good point. So, yep, that is uh very, very important to understand. So now you know what icing is. Yes, it can be, it's a total drag. Um, one other thing about icing, too, the players on the defending team that iced the puck cannot make a change. A lot of times when teams get their they're we say buzzing. Here's another word you can say to impress your boyfriend. Be like, man, if they're putting on a lot of pressure in the offensive zone and they're keeping the puck away, they're getting lots of shots. You could say, Man, this team is really buzzing, they're gonna get one here. So get one or buzzing means the team is playing really, really well. They're just running this team into the ground because it takes a lot of energy when you're defending. When you're out on the ice defending and a team is buzzing, it is really, really it just takes up a lot of energy. You get really tired. So you're gonna go and try to get a dump, and then that's when you do a change, you change players. It's bad when you ice the puck. You have to go back and stay on the ice. You're not allowed to do that line change. So make sure you hit that center line before dumping the puck.
SPEAKER_03And also, to add in on that, the team that's gonna be in the offensive zone that ice that was iced against, they get to choose which circle the face-off is taken in. Yeah, so get that advantage. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know that. Set up your set up your defender for a one-timer real quick.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's really depends on if they're right-handed or left-handed. If the person taking the face-off is left-handed, they want to be on the side that they can get the puck back to their defenseman. That's why they choose a circle or side. It's usually right-handed or left-handed shooting player. So if you are, you know, if you're right-handed, you want to have it on the right side if you're left-handed, so that you can get the puck back to your defenseman easier. So, anyway, good, great. Uh, yeah, good points, Brandon. Again, good drop in there. That was uh absolutely correct. So, yeah, now you know, ladies, get with it. Come on, you love this sport, go to your boy aquarium, and now you have a little bit more knowledge. So, again, like, comment, share, let us know what you want to talk about, what you want us to talk about, what you'd like to hear more of or less of. Please let us know. Don't forget to like, follow, subscribe, share, come join us. Amen. Some fun. So, here we yes, comments. We like comments. I love comments. We are also uh on TikTok, we're on YouTube, so I'm posting every day on TikTok. Um, we do lots of shorts, uh, we do game vlogs. I just got to go to the ECHL uh Easter Conference Finals. I'll have a uh vlog coming out on our YouTube channel. So don't forget, go check it out, go subscribe. Um, all right. So this week, top five. Here we go. So our top five this week is going to be the top five, in our opinion, best playoff runs of all time. So playoff run is a team that just has a absolutely whether it's magical, if it's a Cinderella team or a team that just purely just dominates, just dominates, and goes in all the way and wins the Stanley Cup. So um, yeah, so we're looking at our top five greatest Stanley Cup runs of all time. Everybody ready? Yep. Yep, got my list. Do it, got your lists.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I had a hard time putting it in uh in a particular order, though.
SPEAKER_00You know, between one through five. Yeah, here's the thing with with I've got you know a like top three is like really, really like I my number one is always gonna be my number one. Um and again, it involves a goalie that just carried a team. So, and it's the story behind that team is absolutely just it's just great the way they got into the play, everything. So it I think Steve, it's kind of like just it's just no particular order, really. The all five of these were absolutely incredible runs because again, folks, to to win this tournament, it's two months long. You're playing every other day, travel, everything, right? You're just going for two months, and it's so intense. It's the crowds are louder, the players are hitting harder. It's just it's it's such an uh incredible feat, really, for these guys, and it's uh it's just everything about it. If you go four rounds, seven games, that's 28 games. That's a quarter of another season, more than an 82-game season. You're adding 28 games, and this is you're already maybe a little beat up dealing with some stuff, um, little injuries here or there that you haven't even talked to the the medical team yet. And so it's like this is such a big accomplishment. So it's it's a big deal when you really dominate this tournament. It just says something different. It says that you just it's just special. So enough of me. Let's go. Steve hot dog man would my man. What's your number? I can just get your eyes at me.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna roll my eyes every time you say that. Um, is the 03 New Jersey Devils?
SPEAKER_00The O3 Devils, okay.
SPEAKER_02The O3 Devils, and I un Martin is in a lot of my, at least in a couple of them, the goalie Martin um Burdeur. And um he's the main reason for that, Martin. Yeah, I'm laughing. So that would be my number five.
SPEAKER_00Number five, okay. Oh three devils. That's a good I mean, that's yeah, that's a good, that's a great one, man. I like it. Brandon, number five.
SPEAKER_03My number five didn't win the cup, but they had a crazy run that nobody expected to have happen. And that was uh 91 Minnesota North Stars. The first round they beat the best team in the league in the Blackhawks. Second round, they beat the second best team in the league in the Blues. Third round, they defeated the defending champions and the Oilers. Yeah. Who won their first championship that year?
SPEAKER_00Night, yeah, 91. Okay. I got you. That was uh yeah, that was Lemieux and uh Yager.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and the North Stars were considered the worst team in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's that's that's uh that's that's again it they made it all the way to the end, just didn't finish the job there at the end. But it's yeah, again, that's that's what the that's a great number five because that is what this is about. That's the whole point of these lists is that that's that's a team that probably shouldn't have even been in the playoffs. Great number five, Nick. Number five, Mr.
SPEAKER_01Brown. Number five. Um, I basically have two types of teams on my list. Teams that had a crazy difficult journey and made it to the cup, or teams that dominated the entire time. Um I'm gonna start off with number five with the 2023 Florida Panthers. Um, from a wild card team to reaching the Stanley Cup Finals. Um, they were a wild card two, came in with a 42, uh 42, 30, 42 win, 32 loss, eight time record. Um overtime, a couple some star power with like Matthew Kachuk. Um and multiple overtime thrillers, uh, marathon games, and yeah. And then uh and then they what? They lost to the cup to I forget who.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and then lost to Vegas in the finals for five games.
SPEAKER_00Very good. All right, number five. Uh, my number five is going to be the 2019 St. Louis Blues. So the St. Louis Blues were in dead last in January that year. Dead last in the NHL, guys. Made it into the uh made it into the uh into the playoffs, had went on a run, and just they went on a run. Um they I can't I'm trying to find like how many games they did something. I remember these guys 27 and 30. This is 29. They did that, and then they 2019. That was Jordan Bennington's rookie year, um, who just proved to be absolutely unstoppable. Uh, nobody even really knew or understand who Jordan Bennington was. He is a true goalie with his he's just a quirk. He's absolutely ridiculous. But anyway, um, yeah, so they did a coaching change too, didn't they? And uh they beat, I know they beat San Jose in the conference final, and then they went on to beat the Boston Bruins in seven games. The game seven of that year was absolutely incredible. So that is my number five, Steve. Number four.
SPEAKER_02That was my number four as well. The 2019 St. Louis Blues.
SPEAKER_00Perfect. Yeah, uh, a pretty incredible run. Again, this goes back to how they got into that playoff. That was an underdog success story. They honestly, and they probably could have been higher, honestly, at three, even a three. So good number four. We'll just piggyback right off that. Go to Brandon. Brandon, number four.
SPEAKER_03My number four is the 19 St. Louis Blues. What's that? My number four was 2019 St. Louis Blues. Like it was just, you know, like I said earlier, just love it when those games go when it goes to game seven in the final. Sure. It was just an amazing story, and love Bennington's performance. Awesome.
SPEAKER_00Love it. Nick, number four, buddy.
SPEAKER_01You're not gonna believe it, but it's the 2019 St. Louis Blues. Um okay. Because I mean it's for the same reason you said, you know, that they barely made the playoffs, won the cup last place. Yeah. Um, the one high the one thing I did find was that this is the this was the longest playoff run for a champion at the time at 26 games.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they again, I uh the conference finals, they were actually down two games to one to San Jose. And the way that game ended, so let's talk like so the it was such a blatant, it was an obvious hand pass. Even San Jose sat there like that's not a goal, it was an overtime. San Jose was and they were buzzing, they probably would have won that game, but it was just like the player, I think it was I want to say Timo Meyer, anyway, it doesn't matter. Like, hit the puck, and a player just buried it in an open net, and they kind of just sat there. I remember uh Eric Carlson, the look on his face was like, We're not really doing this, are we? So they lose that game, they're freaking pissed. It's in St. Louis, they're throwing their sticks up against like it was bad, and they had should have should have never been a goal. This was honestly one of the reasons they brought in, like, you know, replay got extended because of that goal, and it was like, dude, even San Jose sitting there like, this isn't right. So they went on, they won the last three games, went on to the Stanley Cup, and just again, yeah, it was it was a tough one. So, anyway, uh, yeah, so St. Louis Blues 2019, absolutely stellar, guys. Hats off to you. Um, my number four is the 1987 Edmonton Oilers. Okay, this pick was just because of the dominance of this, they made teams look silly. Um, I've got the thing, it was uh the widely considered the best record in NHL playoff history. Uh Gretzky and the Oilers steamrolled their way to a 16-2 postseason record. 16-2. Like just bullied their way through it. Um, and again, it was another Stanley Cup for them at the time. They were just they owned the NHL back then. Marc Messier and uh Marty McSorley was part of that team, and you know, Gretzky, of course. But anyway, that's my number four is the 1987 Edmonton Oilers, Steve Wood. What is your number three?
SPEAKER_02Number three is the 90 1993 Montreal Canadiens. Um, they win, they had 10 overtime wins. Okay. They were actually down. So I oh I had to look this one up because I when I was reading because I actually wasn't watching hockey then.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. What year was it again?
SPEAKER_0293. So they were down by they were down two games in the first first round. They came back in one, then they only lost one game all the way to the red to the end of the cup.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they I remember they beat the Kings that year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it looks like it was the Quebec, Buffalo, New York Islanders, and then um the Kings. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the Kings Indonesia. Yeah, Patrick Waugh was the goalie that year, and just yeah, it was I remember, yep. Yeah, good one. All right, very, very good uh Brandon, number three.
SPEAKER_03My number three is the 2012 LA Kings. Number eighth seed, first eighth seed to win it, and just off of the back of Jonathan Quick, nobody could get anything past him.
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah. Alright, very good, Nick three.
SPEAKER_012012 Los Angeles Kings, because they were the first team to go from an eighth seed to win the State of the Cup.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I yeah. Um my god. What is going on here? I lost. Um sorry, I'm trying to, I lost my list. And I had some like uh some notes on it, but anyway, okay. Uh so my number three is actually the 1991 Pittsburgh Penguins. Um, I put this on here because of the dominance of Mario Lemieux. Um, obviously they won. He carried that team. So I want to bring up some stats. This is our the most dominant, one of the most dominant postseasons of all time. Um, this is where he got the name Super Mario, uh, had 44 points, 28 assists, and 16 goals in 23 games en route to their first Stanley Cup championship. So that's my number three. Um, Steve, number two.
SPEAKER_02My number two is the 94 Rangers.
SPEAKER_0594.
SPEAKER_02Then them ending their their decades-long drought of decade.
SPEAKER_00That was it was like what 40 something years, I believe, right? I haven't listened to this 54-year drought. 54 years, sorry. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That I remember that uh that was against Pavel Bury, the Russian Rocket, and the Vancouver Canucks. That was a great uh I remember that playoffs in general. That was a really, really great just playoff run in general. So another great game seven. It really yeah, and what was the other one? Brandon too, was the game six against New Jersey, and it was like it Mark Messier literally, I think if I remember correctly, he called it. Yeah, he was like, We'll be back in New York. He won, yeah, it was a hat-trick, and he finished it in overtime to win it. Yep, yeah, it absolutely just I mean, truly, truly it just absolutely incredible. So, yeah, that's uh a great number two, Brandon. What is your number two?
SPEAKER_03My number two is in honor of someone who just recently passed away, Claude Lemieux, going with the 95 New Jersey Devils, who beat the you know favored Red Wings, and Claude Lemieux took uh home the con Smythe trophy. So he was good.
SPEAKER_00He I forgot to bring up that he passed at 60 years old. Thank you for bringing that up, Brandon. I apologize, but yeah, Claude Lemieux did pass away. Uh yeah, uh just a great great hockey player. And that was a those those teams in the early 2000s, those that rivalry was absolutely fantastic. So that's that's a great number two, Brandon. Um yeah, I I really, really, really like it. So awesome. Nick?
SPEAKER_01Or yeah, Nick, number two. Sorry. Um, Brandon, your your 80s Oilers team, what years did you what year did you do? 87. I had the 1988 Oilers as the 16-2. Uh, and the in 1987 when they also won, they were 16 and 5.
SPEAKER_00I I'm reading it right here. Uh, most dominant, one of the most dominant 1987 Edmonton Oilers, often considered the peak of the Oilers dynasty. The 1987. And that's my answer. Okay.
SPEAKER_01My answer is the 87, because I put down 88, and I'm still looking at answers here that say 88, whatever. Your answer.
SPEAKER_00I okay. Well, either way, yeah, that's the team.
SPEAKER_01The 16 and two Oilers of the late 80s are my number two answer.
SPEAKER_00And honestly, it's just such a great. I've got it back up now because I have my list. It's going all peaked here. Yeah, he had 43 points, Gretzky did. Uh, one less than Lemieux, but it's just like it shows the dominance that they had. The Oilers were a wagon back then, dude. Nobody could be and what's crazy is before the Oilers, it was the Islanders who won four straight. So for like a period of like nine seasons, it was just one-sided oilers, except for one team. I can't remember who won that, but but anyway, yeah, so um that's great. Um, again, uh, my number two was actually Brandon said it was the 1993 Montreal Canadiens, and that was just such a dominant run. It was, you know, again, uh, the way that they, you know, kind of just took over that playoff run. So that was my number two. Um, let's get into number one. Steve, what do you got, buddy?
SPEAKER_02My number one was. Already said it was the 2012 LA Kings.
SPEAKER_00Good enough. I uh yeah, we'll get we'll get into that run now here in a minute. Brandon, what's your number one?
SPEAKER_03My number one is the Edmonton Oilers. 87. I mean just to dominance and they squeeze. We were also an amazing team that year.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Boston had some great teams back then. So yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02I had the I had the 90 of the 84 season as my number six. Um kind of as a just because that was the first year that they actually started their yeah, their run.
SPEAKER_01Right on, Nick, number one. What do you got? I'm glad no one's actually said this one yet. I'm gonna my number one is the last and only and one of only two teams to win the cup with a perfect postseason record. The 1952 Detroit Red Wings who went eight and zero because there was only two routes.
SPEAKER_00No, that's why it's not on anybody's list. It wasn't really difficult back then. So um, all right, fair enough. And it was actually two teams. It was 1952 Red Wings and the 1960 Montreal Canadians that did it. So what's your number one? My number one is going to be the 2012 LA Kings. Uh, here's here's why. Uh number one, they didn't get into the playoffs. They only got into the playoffs that year because two teams lost on the last day. They were essentially eliminated. All that had to happen was a team had to win a game. Both those teams, I'm trying to remember who like who lost that day. They sat like they had players all of a sudden that were out and they're trying to get into the playoffs. I remember thinking, like, what are they doing? So, anyway, two teams lose. The Kings find a way to win. They were not a great team that year. They go and uh they get it. That's how they get into the playoffs. Okay. Now let's talk about their run and who they beat. First round, they beat the president's trophy winner. Okay, they sweep them, then they go and play the number two seed, beat them in five, then they go and play the number three seed, sweep them, and then they go into the Stanley Cup final facing Mark Tambro Durr, and who's aging at that point, and and the New Jersey Devils and beat them in six. Jonathan Quick was just again. This is what we talk about. This is why number two was it it goaltenders will carry a team through the playoffs. We're watching it happen with Montreal right now. Like we're watching it in real time with Dobris. Um, I and again, it Carolina is so good that we're kind of overshadowing the fact that Freddie Anderson did not have a great season at all, guys. And not at all. Like now he's doing, he's just putting up ridiculous numbers, and there's arguments, and people will say, and just you know, the excuse clowns will come out and be like, well, he's only facing this many shots. And it's like sometimes, yeah, because his team is that good defensively. But if you look at like when Montreal uh got a little bit of a push last night, dude, Freddie Anderson was lights out, dude. Everything he was great, made some phenomenal saves. Yes, game one was not his best, you know, day, but he's got four shutouts now. And what's he like honestly, what's what's he at? But but that's why the the 2012 Kings man was just another level of ridiculous. It's like Brandon had said, with you know, being an eighth-seed and just uh rolling through Brandon. You said that was the first eight-seed as well, right? Correct? Yeah, first eight seed to win it. So we're talking about how many years of hockey were an eight-seed didn't do it. I mean, you've had some great runs by teams that were um look at the 94 San Jose Sharks. They were, you know, a new team, and then they went and beat the Red Wings, though who won the President's Trophy that year in seven games. What a great game seven that was. I'm just staring in Nick Brown's soul right now. So they beat the this is the only reason I'm bringing this one up, too. All right, they beat the President's Trophy winning uh Red Wings in seven, then they go into the next round, and Olf Dalin hit the post in game six in overtime, and that would have sent the sharks past the Maple Leafs, but they lost in the second round. But it's like you just look at you know, it's hard when you're an eighth seed, man. You're it's a rough, you're you're never gonna have home ice advantage, you gotta win on the road, and you know, great teams win on the road. Look at Carolina right now, also is undefeated on the road. Yep. So, and that's what the Kings did. They won everywhere, they got hot right when they needed to, and Jonathan Quick carried them. It was amazing. Nobody talks about the 2010 Blackhawks and the run that anti Niami had. It was it was crazy. So, and that was a young team then in 2010, and so that was an absolutely just ridiculously great run. So it's like we see it a lot again. Uh, yeah, Brandon brought it up with the goalies and being a number eight seed, it's just yeah, it's phenomenal. So, anyway, that's uh that's it for this week. Um, Steve, last uh final thoughts, buddy? What do you got?
SPEAKER_02Oh, final thoughts. Pretty much the same as uh every day going on right now in the playoffs. I'm just clearing looking forward to the Carolina Hurricanes complete their domination through the cup.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I it's just yeah, man. It it is just it's great.
SPEAKER_02It's been an interesting time in Raleigh here watching them do that.
SPEAKER_00Are we uh in the fan base? Well, we'll talk to you about that after we get off. But right on, man.
SPEAKER_03Brandon, last words. Let's get ready for some finals of the playoff hockeys, and let's go, rock Rocket City trash pandas.
SPEAKER_00Nice trash pandas. Nick Brown, final thoughts.
SPEAKER_01I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of excited that I don't get to watch a hockey game tonight, so I can build up momentum for tomorrow. Um, I get to go to bed. Uh, but just one more just want to say about Claude Lemieux. Um, I did get to watch him play growing up as a kid. Like he was an amazing person. Um they did release his cause of death. Anybody struggling with mental health, like it's a serious thing. Um, reach out, find some friends, teammates, something. But that's all I got, man.
SPEAKER_00Is that what it was? I didn't know suicide. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, I I'm just gonna piggyback off you, Nick. Listen, yeah, I I agree. Remember, you can always hit star 988. Okay. Um that's if you don't have anybody to talk to or you're embarrassed or shy, everybody needs to remember that it's okay to not be okay. I I talk about it at work when I give big talks and speeches, or I'm teaching, it's like, listen, it it really is. I work with men, mostly men, that you know are just rugged, tough guys, right? And it's like there's too much of these stigmatisms that guys are not supposed to, you know, share how they're feeling or anything like that. And it's like that's gotta go away, man. I anybody that knows me knows that I either will get to you or I will sit on the phone or FaceTime or whatever you need, okay. Like Nick said, man, reach out and just talk to somebody. You know what I mean? It's listen, and in experience, Nick, you can piggyback off of this. People that are gonna do that are not going to tell anybody. Absolutely, you're not gonna have the you know, that's the that's the go-on and so forth person. I took a bunch of dial and all because that guy or girl hurt my feelings. It's not gonna be that person. Sadly, it's and remember to those you know, surviving family, it's not your fault. Please don't blame yourself. No, all right. Don't blame yourself because you didn't see the signs or you think maybe something was a sign. It's it's it's not your fault. I know it's tough, and I'm a nobody saying that to you, but it is true. I just yeah, yeah, man. That's terrible. Sucks. Yeah, it's just I just want to again stress this. It is okay to not be okay.
SPEAKER_01It just was just seen, he was just seen at one of the games, the Eastern Conference Finals.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he did the opening ceremony for the Canadian, and uh, it's just crazy.
SPEAKER_01You never know what's going on, and no, and you don't, and I we still don't, so like I'm just keeping it very simple and very basic. That if you know, if like we like Brandon said, if you're struggling, reach out, find somebody to talk to, find a priest, find a friend, co-worker, teammate, family member. I don't care. Yeah, but you can find somebody to talk to.
SPEAKER_00Something, yeah. It's always and and and if you're the person that these uh somebody reaches out to, it's like just listen, just just let them talk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're you're not there to fix it, you're there just to be a shoulder of listen. That's thank you.
SPEAKER_03Don't judge them or anything like that. Just yeah, nope, yes, 100%.
SPEAKER_01I would do this, should never come out of your mouth, just be like, tell me more.
SPEAKER_00Just listen to them and let them talk because sometimes that's all they need. Yep, and you don't know the way it's gonna come out. All right, put your feelings away because they might yell, they might cuss, they might say insulting things about somebody that you care about or like, or just let them talk. Yep, they need to get something out in a weird way. You might be saving that person's life. So thanks, Nick, for bringing that up. Brandon, great, great points on this subject. So um, yeah, with that said, it's uh I think you know, we'll just we'll just end that and kind of quietly and just you know, thank you, Claude Lemieux, for your memories and you're such a great hockey player. Um and I didn't know you personally, obviously, but uh I'm sure you did a lot of good and touched a lot of people's lives and hearts. So um, yeah, with that, we'll just uh kind of end that on a moment of silence. Thanks everybody for coming. Um please like, follow, and uh subscribe and share. Thanks everyone. Have a good night. Thanks everybody. We'll see you next week.