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Free Agency Crazy - Episode 25
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This week the guys discuss the world of golf, the WNBA, and the first day of free agency in the NHL. Take a listen and enjoy.
Hello everybody. Welcome to Full Strength Podcast, episode number 25. We are here. I am in uh Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, currently. Um, kind of a crazy, crazy up and down week. Uh, NHL free agency is open. Um, obviously, we had the draft. I did the live thing at the draft. Uh, there's stuff going on in a couple of different leagues in the WNBA. There's a lot of news. Um, World Cup is entering the stage of 32. Um, it's going on right now. Teams are already into the stage of 16. Um, so uh a whole bunch is going on. I'm gonna do a fun segment today on uh, you know, kind of some information. Just a lot of people don't know what it's like to be a pro golfer. So we're gonna get into a whole bunch of fun stuff. Um, also, ladies' corner is gonna have to do with golf terminology. So we're gonna jump into that. Um, actually, I have some fun stuff for my wife. She's gonna kind of told me some stuff that uh we should talk about. Um anyway, with that, we'll get into uh Steve. How was your week, man?
SPEAKER_03It's good, it was a busy week, busy work week, but uh been enjoying watching uh some some soccer. Some soccer. Which I don't normally do, so that's been interesting.
SPEAKER_00It's yeah, I know it's near a bunch of us. So right on, man. Well, we'll get into this a lot of a lot of stuff this week. Uh Brandon, how's your how's your uh how's your week at?
SPEAKER_01My week was up and down, um upside. Vegas beat the the Knights beat the Raiders and the Battle of Las Vegas charity softball game. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I was wondering where that was going.
SPEAKER_01And on the downside, I got kicked off of another golf course. All I did was tell the drink cart girl she had great cans. I don't see what the issue is.
SPEAKER_00Gotcha. Why were you why were you playing? Where were you playing? Was it like a tournament? It's a joke. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01Told the girl she had great cans.
SPEAKER_02Because she sold cans of beer. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03Okay. All right. We'll stick with that, Nick.
SPEAKER_00Nick, how is your week?
SPEAKER_02I am uh slightly suffering here in Plague Staff. We got a forced fire about 30 miles away, so everything is got a red hue and smoky, and I have bloodshot eyes. I promise you, I'm not doing anything except podcasting and working. Um, but no, things are great. Kids are in the house and uh got a big parade. Oh, I didn't tell you guys. I get to drive in the parade this year for 4th of July, like a 1950s fire convertible fire truck. That'll be fun. That sounds cool. I'll I'll bring you guys pictures. It's gonna be pretty sick. Kids are gonna ride with me on the fire truck, it's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_00That's that's awesome. Do you still is your evox still uh current?
SPEAKER_02Um, absolutely it expires, it doesn't expire. This thing has like manual brakes, the brake pedal is like a foot and a half off the floor. You have to like oh yeah, I dude, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I try to go slow in that thing is going to be a challenge. A department that I once worked for had a old school firetruck and it was parked at our station. And it was like, yeah, dude, those things are hard to drive. There is listen, no power steering is a real like good grief. Yeah, dude. Like it's turn like 18 times to get it to go. And it takes a little bit of English, man. You gotta put some you gotta put some rear end into it.
SPEAKER_02So it's got this, it's got a school bus steering wheel, you know, so like you can like lean on it and then still grab it. You're like, oh it'll be fun though. Um, I'm actually bringing it back, I'm bringing it driving it back to the house to park it here on Friday.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. All right, good deal. Yeah, I've uh punch my thing. Yeah, speaking of golf, if anybody wants to come to uh Bradford PA, we got a PGA pro am that I'm wanting, I need two guys. I need two guys to play, so it's only $225 a person. All the food and everything is taken care of. So anyway. Um, all right. Well, with that, I'm we'll kind of dive right into this week. Um in odds and ends, we've kind of uh nothing really. We got baseball. Um, we're gonna touch on baseball. Nothing really going on. Um, we're just getting in. The dog days of summer have begun. It's like uh nobody's really separating themselves yet. It's uh no real injuries to report from. Am I missing anything there? Atlanta's not doing so good anymore. No, like I it's again, it yeah, Atlanta was hot. Now they're falling off, right? I think they're like two and eight in their last ten. I did see Atlanta, but uh it's just there's not much going on. It's uh, you know, at least not on our end where we cover every single sport. You know, you can, you know, baseball insiders obviously have news every day and things going on. Um, I will say this this is has to do with a ball player's girlfriend. I think that anyway, uh Paul Skeens has a girlfriend that is insanely, I guess she's I I I didn't really know her, know her, um, but he's dating the uh Livy Dune, right? Olivia Dune. She was a gymnast at LSU. Okay, so now she's like this huge social media star on kind of like a listen, something happened to her at an airport. She gets off of a plane. Okay, she gets off of a plane, she went on a family trip, and there's like 40 dudes walking out with posters of her. I didn't even know she was on Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover or uh in the magazine. They got these blown-up pictures of her in a swimsuit, and all these dudes are like bought tickets to get to the gate and like bum rushed her to get an autograph. I'm like, dude, that is some creepy shit right there.
SPEAKER_03That's really creepy.
SPEAKER_00And there was dudes commenting on this, saying, like, they were like, Oh, well, uh, price of fame, and it's like, nah, man, that yeah, you're the price of fame is if you if you say, Oh my god, I know who you are as you pass on the street.
SPEAKER_02You don't go hunt them down. Like they're game.
SPEAKER_00The dudes were like rushing her, bro, for autographs and like it was creepier than like paparazzi. Ugh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's basically stalking.
SPEAKER_00That's what I yeah, that's I said the same thing. I'm like, dude, these dudes it is stalking. Like, there's no reason for them to know her flying harassment. No, Brandon's right, it's not kind of stalking, it is effing stalking, dude. So, anyway, that's Paul Skeens. Paul Skeen's girlfriend might, I think, might is fame more famous than him. So he's probably like, I don't want to go out, babe. You get too much attention from these weirdos. I'm gonna end up hitting one and I'm gonna end up on Sports Center's not so top ten. Right. Or like what happened to Gavin McKenna and his mom in uh state college after that big game. So it's like, dude, that's yeah, it's crazy. But anyway, uh yeah, nothing really else. I I don't have anything else on baseball this week, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Um I mean, nothing really. I mean, you could talk about the Cubs are nine and one in the past 10 games, but we can like I said, teams are getting hot and they're not gonna be able to get it. Or like see if the Yankees are losing. It's just the ebbs and flow. They did have like twenty it was like twenty-three to three today against the Padres.
SPEAKER_00Was that the score today? Yes, they went off. Wow. Yeah, that's that's one of those days where you're in the other dugout. Like, can we please just get out of like just off? Yeah, like you kind of wish it was a 10-run little league rule.
SPEAKER_02It was in the pros, too. Honestly, can we go home? Let's go to the you know 10 runs after five, call it. Ah, dang, dude.
SPEAKER_01That's absolutely also been on fire lately. They are eight and two in their last ten.
SPEAKER_00You know what? So the Marlins, it's not just the last ten either. Uh they've been yeah, they've been showing signs of life. And you know what's funny about the Marlins? If you look back, what was it, 97, right? That they won the World Series, and then was it early 2000s? And then they just disappear the next year. So it's like maybe who knows? Could it be the Marlins year all of a sudden? Then they'll just fall off the earth for another decade.
SPEAKER_03Looks like both Florida teams are doing really well. Tampa Bay is seven and three. The D-Rays, yeah. Six win streak, and then of course the Yankees, which I'm always enjoying to see, and then they are all a seven-game losing streak.
SPEAKER_00Did you hear Tampa Bay? You know, they want they need a new stadium. That place uh we drove by it when I was on a trip down there. We were going from Miami from the winter classic up to uh go see the Bucks Carolina football game. We drove right by that stadium, you know. Dude, they need a new stadium, but they want to put it back in St. Petersburg, and fans that live over the bridge over the bay in Tampa, they say all the time, like we would go to more games if the stadium was in Tampa, because it's if I've I went over that bridge, dude, for a ball game or like heavy traffic, it's miserable, it's terrible. So I get why people don't go over to St. Pete. One, it's kind of a crap area, and two, why would you put a stadium where people are literally telling you like that place would be sold out every night if it was in Tampa and they want to put the new stadium right there in St. Pete again? I'm like, put it over in Tampa. I don't get it, I don't know. Well, anyway, Brandon, anything going on in wrestling?
SPEAKER_01No, yeah, uh for a bit indoor event last Sunday. Okay, yeah, crazy event. Every match was a banger, stand out things. You had the return of uh switchblade Jay White to lead his bang bang gang once again. And then you had uh Swerve Strickland, Will Osprey tearing the house down in the main event. Will Ospreay still finds a way to uh defy gravity in his matches. I don't even know how to describe what it is that he did, how he managed to just like launch himself off of like a top rope, or is it like a running type acrobatic move, or what it what does he do? He was being powerbombed from the top rope. Okay, and halfway down it turned into a hurricana where he flips the guy over him in mid in air?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's crazy. Whoa, all right. Yeah, I mean that sounds insane.
SPEAKER_01Will Osprey is the greatest wrestler in the world, hands down.
SPEAKER_00Tell me how you really feel. Well, I mean, honestly, to do the athleticism in in wrestling is kind of insane sometimes. Like the stuff that these guys are able to do is it's like acrobatically alone is insane. It really is.
SPEAKER_01So we have crazy 10-man cage match, team MJF versus team Briscoe, a lot of crazy hardcore shenanigans. First team, first time I've ever seen an old Nintendo system used as a weapon, including the controllers.
SPEAKER_00What? Why did Nintendo Yeah, like what why okay, like the original 8-bit NES? Yeah. Why destroy that? I'm just kidding. What in the why was there yeah? I'm with Nick. What's the backstory on that?
SPEAKER_01Well, the face team, uh, team Briscoe, uh the teams called the conglomeration. They always walk around with backpacks to the ring, kind of have this like high school vibe going on. So they brought their backpacks, and each of them had like a different thing in them. One of them had an NES in it, and so hit a guy with it, and then they used the controllers uh and whip the controllers on a guy.
SPEAKER_00Jesus Christ. Wow, whipping the controllers, that didn't feel good. That doesn't feel good.
SPEAKER_01Trust me, a lot of the things that happened in this match that don't feel good.
SPEAKER_00Hold on, but did they hit him with the controller side or the cable that plugs into the to the machine?
SPEAKER_01The controller side.
SPEAKER_00All right, either one hurts, but I'd rather get hit with the controller than get whipped with the other end. I don't know. Was this you said this was AEW? Yeah, yeah, that's what he said. He said it's trumps the WWE, right? Like it's just yeah, it's yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, in my opinion. Okay, I yeah. Right on. But hands down, definitely worth checking out.
SPEAKER_00Good. Well, like folks, if you are wrestling fans, check out the AEW. It's you know, Brandon's the correspondent on this podcast. So he says it's uh it's better, it's better. So I take his word for it. Um his movies, definitely question. Okay, definitely just ask a simple question. Uh, if you see.
SPEAKER_01Remember that when we get to their top five later.
SPEAKER_00Here we go. Um, okay, so uh with that, we're gonna move into NFL. So there was some really, really, really sad news. Uh, Chris Johnson uh played for a couple of teams, but his most memorable season was with the Tennessee Titans, where he rushed for 2,089 yards. Um he died of ALS. Um, ALS He didn't die.
SPEAKER_02He didn't die. He was just diagnosed with ALS. He just hasn't been in the he no, he's not dead. He has, yeah, he was diagnosed with ALS. This is the first time he's been on the club.
SPEAKER_00I meant diagnosed. Man, thank you for correcting me. That would have been terrible. I meant diagnosed. I apologize. I just know I know. I it's it it's it's because it's a death sentence. It's you he it's it's terminal, there is no cure for it. Um my grandmother died, uh, did pass. That's also where I was going. So I apologize for saying died. Uh, my grandmother did die from ALS. We watched it. I watched it as a young kid, um, from the age of like uh it was 12 to 14. She made it two years. But the progression of it is just brutal. It's it's a lot like uh it's kind of it's like a it's almost like Guillaume Beret syndrome, which is also terrible, but again, it's different. But it slowly just shuts you down. At some point, you stop talking. My grandmother uh came over and we ordered a pizza from Mountain Mike's. Um, this is in the Bay Area, Santa Rosa, and uh ordered this, ordered a pizza from Mountain Mike's Pizza, and the whole conversation from that night from my grandma, like responding to questions and stuff, was written on this pizza box. And my mom kept it for a long time. Um, but watching a loved one just get taken away by this slowly, it takes away your taste of food, it takes away your ability to talk, it eventually takes away your ability to even lift something up and walk, and then you're bedridden until you die.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's super sad. And to see him in that interview, already in a wheelchair, already using his eyes to pinpoint words to have you know AI computer his voice.
SPEAKER_00He probably didn't want to be a spectacle. Yeah, and at 39 years old, dude. Like people think he's old because he's always retired from the NFL. It's like, nah, man, remember, athletes they retire very young. It just sucks that this is going on. It's it's also, by the way, folks, it ALS is known as Lou Garrick's disease. Um, it's just it's such a brutal thing that his family's going through right now. And you know, hats off to his kids, to his parents, um, who are possible, I don't know if they're still alive, but I would imagine they're still alive. He's only 39, and having to see your kid go through that even sucks. Just it just really breaks your heart, especially for those that have had a had a you know very close loved one go from it. You know, we called uh my grandmother Moon. It was her name. We it was her moon. We it was our moon, you know, and um yeah, she was such an amazing human being. Now, here's what's crazy too. My grandma was running at 67 years old when she got like diagnosed with this. She was still running miles every morning. She would go down to Cappuccino High School in Millbrae, California, and she would run a mile on the track.
SPEAKER_03It's it's I mean, obviously, look at him. He was an NFL player and he was probably really helping.
SPEAKER_00Sucks. It's it's a disgusting illness, and there's literally no cure for it. They know what causes it. It just there's just not a way to stop it yet. And that's the thing that's probably frustrating for people that research it. You know, you get million, hundreds of millions a year, I'm sure. In research, it's like cancer. It's like, at what point are we gonna figure this stuff out, man?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it looks like I get him pretty quickly, too, because it looks as he's he's now on a speaking device.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Everybody's different, Steve, like anything else. Everybody's different. So it might you and I might get it at the same time, and I might live for three years, you might live for six months. That's brutal. So, yeah, absolutely brutal. But you know, Chris Johnson and fans of his family, it's like our hats off go. I I mean, our hearts break for you and your family, and it's like just there's people that support you, man. I know that probably doesn't matter, it doesn't help if we're being honest, but it's yeah, we're thinking about you, man. It's it's heartbreaking.
SPEAKER_02Surround yourself with your family.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, just be with family, man. I I yeah. To be forced to go out against you know, against your will at 39 years old. I I I that was I'm 45.
SPEAKER_02And he was such a competitor. Such a competitor.
SPEAKER_00Great, great, great, great RB1. I mean, yeah. Thanks for the Madden Cover.
SPEAKER_02He hit a Madden cover, didn't he? Yeah, he did. I think he did he hit a Madden cover too.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Yeah, uh, the year after he rushed for 2000 plus. You know, when you do something like that, you deserve to be on the Madden cover.
SPEAKER_02So uh I know what you're saying. Stop it.
SPEAKER_00Tyrion Arnold got released uh from Detroit. He's being released, so he'll probably sign somewhere.
SPEAKER_02Do you hear no? Did did you about Tyrion Arnold? Did you hear what he's being accused of? No, nope. Um, Tyrion Arnold was cut by the Lions because he is accused of masterminding a kidnapping and armed robbery plot in Florida, charges that carry a potential life sentence after allegedly directing associates to lure, detain, beat, pistol whip, and rob three men that Arnold believed had stolen more than a quarter of a million dollars worth of cash and luxury items from an Airbnb that he used. Um, multiple sources say the investigators found group chat evidence, co-defendant testimony, and cell phone evidence suggesting Arnold coordinated the attack even if he wasn't physically present, because they used Zoom so he could look the people in the face that his friends had kidnapped. Crazy activities. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Why would you need an Aaron? You make how that's a good idea. He will not get picked up.
SPEAKER_00Well, uh Steve, Aaron Hernandez.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, that's just the upset.
SPEAKER_00Uh Alden Smith from the 49ers. Alden Smith had 30 sacks in 30 games. He was an absolute first ballot hall of famer in the future when he was with San Francisco. Couldn't stop getting DUIs, couldn't stay away from his friends from the hood. He just couldn't stay away from that life, man.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that is definitely a problem with some of those players.
SPEAKER_00No, dude. And it's Aaron Handels. Aaron Hernandez. He had so much talent, he's so good.
SPEAKER_03Can you imagine him and Gronk on the same team like they were supposed to be?
SPEAKER_00They were.
SPEAKER_03They were only for like a couple years, but I mean he was Aaron Hands.
SPEAKER_00They might have won another two or three Super Bowls. It sucks, man. I I it's like Alden Smith, God, he just couldn't get out of his way. And it was so hard to watch. I I remember looking at Alden Smith and being like, Jesus, this kid is insane. And then gun charge.
SPEAKER_03I mean he's been contacted by three teams already. What?
SPEAKER_02No shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. He's already been contacted by three teams.
SPEAKER_00Here's the thing. And it's until proven guilty, guys. Yeah, I mean he's he's currently hooked up to a GPS. No, listen. This could be for not complete bullshit. Okay? Let's remember cases. Again, sexual assault, Duke LaCrosse, Patrick Kane. All four of the players that from Team Canada. Okay?
SPEAKER_02Oh, who's got a picture from the Dodgers?
SPEAKER_00Um Trevor Bauer.
SPEAKER_02Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Trevor Bauer. Morales aside, yes, okay. These were, you know, some of these guys did some weird shit, okay? All in a couple of those cases shouldn't have even gone to court. So let's again, same thing here. Until he is proven guilty and we have actual facts and not reported evidence or this, that, and the other, he should be allowed to talk to other teams.
SPEAKER_03If this is true, I mean, obviously, Nick Well, I'm just reading according to what they're saying is he he's denying that he was there. His car was there, but he's denying that he was there. Okay, but they've they're charging him with being involved, not with actual beatings.
SPEAKER_00So now we're in the realm of Michael Vick. Okay. Michael Vick didn't, and and here's here was my stance. Michael Vick testified under oath and said, Two police, I didn't know that this was going on.
SPEAKER_03On his own property?
SPEAKER_00Steve, he had six properties.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_00He had six houses, and these were all his buddies from maybe not a good group of people from his past, but they were living in his house. It wasn't even he was playing in another state. So it's like I it's granted, he had to take the rap for the heinous crimes that went on with that dog fighting, drowning, and killing puppies, all this stuff. It's terrible. It's inexcusable. He has to take the fall for that. Okay. And he knew that something like that was going on, but he also said dog fighting was a normal thing back then, and it was.
SPEAKER_02Unfortunately.
SPEAKER_00Whether you think it's wrong or not, it really was a normal thing, especially down in the south. Mississippi, Georgia, Louisiana, Flor uh, I say Florida, I meant uh anyway, down in the South. So it's illegal, it's not right, but again, it's you know, we'll see.
SPEAKER_02Something they grew up doing. Yeah, no, yeah, it's you're right. And that's why I did say accused, and I was careful with the words I chose when I was talking about T. But you're absolutely right. He does have the right to look, but I can't believe I would be as a owner, I would wait until this settled before I would make that phone call. Right. Yeah, me personally. But regardless, uh I agree, just because you make good money, you gotta start acting like an adult all around the board. Everyone, every single one of them, man.
SPEAKER_00It's just again, there's it's you look at some of these sports, and it's just like, oh, what is going on? It's like this is where people start to say, like, it's it's their it's that culture, or it's all it's one race, or it's this, or it's that. And it's like, well, I'm like, everybody grows up differently, man. I you know so and these guys, the biggest thing I always say with with guys like uh, you know, we'll use black athletes, for instance. It's like some of them come from a not so great area and and up, you know, upbringing in an area. It's like you've gotta separate from that from those people.
SPEAKER_03It's hard for them to break ties with her.
SPEAKER_00It is. Because it's some of them did grow up in really, really bad areas, and it's like these guys were like family to them or might have kept them, you know, uh so many different things. So it's unless you've walked a mile in their shoes, don't say shit. Like, don't don't say negative things, but you know, again, it's just it is what it is.
SPEAKER_03Well, I mean, in this judgment does come a factor though, too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know. I yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_03Yep. I mean, it's kind of stupid of him just to be involved in this not all. I mean, I mean he faced FaceTime while they were getting beaten. No, you've got too much.
SPEAKER_00If that's if that's true, yeah, horrible decision to even be remotely involved. It you've gotta have the sense of mind to be like, oh fuck, you know, this really this really is is a bad thing. Excuse me. This is escalating. Go fuck yourself. Um so so yeah, it's you know that's how he should have answered the phone.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, well, moving on. We'll uh we'll keep updating on that one as as uh as that you know as as we get updates and and things like that. So yeah. Um moving on. So uh here we go. Main topic this week. Uh it's been a lot of talk um about the WNBA um and the complete and utter absurdity of what's going on with Caitlin Clark. So uh Caitlin Clark was drafted to the WNBA a couple years ago, um, and the league took off. It has everything to do with Caitlin Clark. When Caitlin Clark plays in a game, they have to move the game to an NBA arena because it's sold out. So um there are some very over-emotional women in that league that don't use common sense, apparently.
SPEAKER_03Well, there's over-emotional people all around me. The the WNB star that got in trouble for the incident where the where the girl got suspended, she's getting death threats now.
SPEAKER_02Elisa Thomas Thomas. Yeah, I mean, come on now, people.
SPEAKER_00What are we doing? Are you so serious? This happens all the time, dude. When Kyle Williams went to San Francisco and they didn't go to the the Super Bowl in 2012, Kyle Williams and his family were getting death threats. Toronto Maple Leaf started. It's not that serious, people left Toronto because his family had to get security. Now, this are you serious?
SPEAKER_03Well, at least it's not like soccer where you actually do get killed.
SPEAKER_00True. These people are dumb. If this is you, you are a worthless pile of human excrement. You're a scumbag. So that's all I have to say on that. Uh, what are we doing? Seriously. Um, but anyway, between the two poster on the 30 years of the WNBA and this uh well, who is it? Uh Angel Reese. Uh, I read into this Angel Reese Caitlin Clark thing. The level of of jealousy that that this Angel Reese uh player has for Caitlin Clark is crazy creepy. It's like you guys were flying, you guys were flying commercial until the influx of revenue that came in allowed them to now fly private. It's this Caitlin Clark player.
SPEAKER_04That's it.
SPEAKER_00And it's according to Age Research. This is so much. She says it was her too. That's who that was. So I saw that and I laughed, and I was like, no, no, it's not. And that shows you right there what this is. These these girls are so unhinged and pissed off, and it's like yeah, no, it's I mean, you have you're dealing with jealousy, resentment.
SPEAKER_02You got the old guard that's doesn't like the the young stars coming up, changing the entire league out from under them. Right. License the there is with that poster, I'll touch on that in a minute, but there was some licensing technicalities, and then the league's struggling to adapt to a superstar who changed their entire economic policy overnight. Overnight. And instead of welcome, instead of welcoming it, instead of being like, Oh, thank you for making us possibly take steps towards being sustainable, not being in the red. Instead, they're like a problem. But they're getting there, they're still, but they're working towards it now. At least they're on an upward trajectory.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're definitely on an upward track track, yeah.
SPEAKER_00They're well last year was a record loss, by the way.
SPEAKER_03But it was also a record in revenue chain and everything else.
SPEAKER_00I understand that, but they started they I think I feel like they started spending money way too early because they had they lost almost 40 million dollars last year, and the NBA is allowing them to exist. Basically, and you know what I mean? And now they treat their number one superstar like this, dude.
SPEAKER_02Have you seen some of the NBA stars like the top six, like Luca and the one who will remain nameless? Um who's gonna leave the Lakers? What's his name? LeBron LeBrenda James, LeBrenda James, and a bunch of the other huge stars have come out and been like, what are you guys doing? Just like on Caitlin Clark's side, not trying to start a fight or not just be like, Why are you punishing the best person in your league?
SPEAKER_03There's not the best person, at least the most electric person, like the person that everybody wants to watch, whether you like her or you don't like her, she's fun to watch, which is bringing a lot of viewership. And why would you punish somebody that's bringing you viewership?
SPEAKER_00Right. And that's that's kind of the funny thing about a lot of this is like, what what are we why? Why are you why surely you're not this stupid? Like, it's just crazy to me.
SPEAKER_01It's like it's like that old saying, uh, rising tide looses all ships, but everybody on these ships want to keep putting holes in their boats and sink back down.
SPEAKER_00I honestly, you're not wrong. It's like, let's just take a fully automatic weapon and go. Okay, we're thinking again, we're happy.
SPEAKER_02So um, about that poster, that 30-year poster snub. Um, I'll be I'll be honest, when I first heard about it, I was angry because I was like, How is she not on the poster?
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, I think exactly was the same way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, fans were furious because Clark was not included on the WMB.
SPEAKER_00She's only in her what second year or third, second year, so that's fine. She's in her second year, so maybe she doesn't belong on the poster, but then you put that other clown on the poster, and it's like, wow, if that's not sending a message that we don't like you for A, B, and C, that's it right there.
SPEAKER_02See, I think the poster had one player from each team, and so Sophie Cunningham, a dime, um, was the representative for the fever, and everyone was still upset, even though she's she's a great athlete, she's the enforcer for Caitlin Clark, and she's fun to watch, and she's TikTok famous.
SPEAKER_00And she's a dime. Oh my god. Yes, yep. I was like, sorry, Ashley, I gotta go.
SPEAKER_02Just kidding. Um, but here's here's the thing that I found out researching for the pod, which made me could no longer get mad at the WNBA because it's not their fault that Caitlin's not on the that that's there, she's not on the poster. Um, multiple sources have confirmed that Clark's likeness cannot be used by anybody unless they're Nike because she signed that $28 million shoe deal. Okay. Um, all right. And so this poster was made by Wincraft, who can only legally use her name or number. And so they went with Sophie Cunningham because she's a dungeon. Now here's the here's my issue.
SPEAKER_00Still doesn't bring up the fact change the fact that like this is your biggest star, and you need to start treating her as such.
SPEAKER_02Dude, why didn't the WNBA favor her?
SPEAKER_00We're not I'm not saying favor her, sorry.
SPEAKER_02That's a bad business decision. Don't favor it. All the WNBA, I feel, had to do to alleviate half of their concerns and all their angry rednecks that are using horrible language in emails or whatever they're doing that I don't approve of. All they had to do was be like, we couldn't use Caitlin Clark. We would have loved to have her because she's the face of our league. We couldn't, because nothing has her likeness. I know, but you know.
SPEAKER_00Um but yeah, we couldn't use her likeness. I've seen statements on both sides, we'll say white and black, that have been absolutely disgusting, racist. We're not even gonna discuss it, we're not gonna bring attention to it because it's it's so despicable by both black and white, mainly white males and black females, and it's just absolutely absurd and disgusting, and I'm not even gonna address it further. But and yeah, we are completely against that to that degree. We won't even really discuss it. So, but I see what you're saying, Nick.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, all they had to do was announce it, and then everyone that was mad like, why isn't she on the poster? Oh, you couldn't put her on there? Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a licensing thing, so it's like calm down, everybody.
SPEAKER_02It's the same reason Michael Jordan was never in. When was the last time you saw Michael Jordan ever in an NBA game prior to his uh prior to him retiring? Right. It was always it was always number 2 32, or he always changed the number and it was a bald black guy, and it was like you know, player 32.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you're talking about in video games, yeah. In video games, yeah, like they never put Michael because they couldn't because all 99 player, it's like Wayne Gretzky did that as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because of his license. And that's yeah, it's just a licensing deal. So if they would have just been open, I feel like this whole a lot of this could have been maybe maybe the off-court drama.
SPEAKER_00But at the same time, should they really have to explain something like this? It's like, let's not get so unhinged.
SPEAKER_03True, but a lot of people do because of all the controversy that's going on around that whole situation.
SPEAKER_00Right. And that's you know, whatever. I know.
SPEAKER_03Well, I mean, one of the things we're you know, when we're talking earlier is Caitlin Clark and Sophia Cunningham makes up 70% of all lead jersey sales.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, 70%. 70% of all jerseys are two players. Two players. That's nuts, dude.
SPEAKER_03I'm of course that happened that happened after this incident.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and here's still here's the funny thing is like the PWHL is already in, it's only in its full going into its fourth season, and it's already making money. It's not they not like money, money, but they're already close to turning a profit. But they're investing so much back into it that that's why. So they're investing more than double, and it's they're almost breaking even. It's part of the the creator of the league had a 10-year plan, and he said, He's like, I can't believe how close we are to turning a profit already. He's like, that was not the plan. Yeah, it's and it's wild. Their jersey sales are through the roof. Obviously.
SPEAKER_03Um I wonder if the WNA will ever make a profit.
SPEAKER_00I I think they're close, I think they will, Steve, but it it just depends. I don't know. I know they're still losing massive amounts of money, and it's like it it everybody says the new TV deal, the new TV deal. So it's like we're gonna see what that does, but it's like outside of the Caitlin Clark games, there's no attendance, man. I I've gone.
SPEAKER_02No, look, watch a watch a WMB game without Caitlin Clark.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a joke.
SPEAKER_02Or the fever. It's you can the bottom bowl's not full and the upper bowl's closed in every arena.
SPEAKER_00Yep. They even built smaller arenas to that, and it's like you look at the PWHL, the professional women's hockey league, they're they're dude, they're selling out NHL arenas. A bad night for the PWHL is like eight or nine thousand. That's that's wild. I mean, it's it's awesome. And now you got four more teams. The PWHL just had a draft, it looks awesome. I saw this this girl at the San Jose's had second overall pick. Dude, she's like she's she towered over Bettman. If you saw her, um hang on a second, I'll I'll get her uh a stats. But uh it is it's pretty it's pretty cool to see how well that's doing, but it's like why is it so much better? There's no there's no cattiness, it's like it's I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I I it is what it is, but um W H so Nick, you were mentioning about something about you had some information about Caitlin Clark before before and after she came into the league.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Nick, what'd you have on Caitlin, buddy?
SPEAKER_02Oh, it was um just that the TV ratings for Indiana Fever games prior to her rookie year doubled. Um so the very next year when she actually came as a rookie, they doubled the rookie year compared to the year that she was not playing in the WBA, she was playing an owl. Um, yeah, their their television ratings doubled um on her rookie, her rookie year, which was also rookie of the year year. Um they got because of her, they've got more televised games because of the the new contract that they signed with I I don't know which television company. They do have now larger arenas for road games for certain teams. Uh, I'll let you guess. Um, massive merch demand, increased sponsorship viability that affects every woman playing for them to make more money, and they get to fly private now, so they don't have to fly southwest or no other airlines like your blue. I'm not trying to say that Caitlin Clark changed the WNBA. I'm saying that she is a tool that they should be using to direct their path skyward.
SPEAKER_03No, you can say Caitlin Clark changed the WNBA. They directly did. It's a fact. I was trying to be nice. I mean, why um that was a direct response to the attendance of people coming to watch her was the you know, changing the venue of where they're playing. So it's a direct response to it. For sure.
SPEAKER_02Uh, if you also ever looking for something online, anyone listening or the gentleman here, um, if you're ever bored, get on uh X and look up Angel Reese, and then the top comment will almost always be Russell Westbrook busting her ass. And they are hilarious. Like she's talking about she because Angel Reese has a shoe, and so she was, you know, she would say something about go outside. I bet nine people outside, the first out of ten people, the first nine you run into will have my shoe on. And it was Russell Westbrook's response was they don't even know who you are when you're talking to them.
SPEAKER_00You know, it's like Russell Westbrook.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I didn't even know she had a shoe deal.
SPEAKER_00Like, nah, dude, she gets clowned a lot by NBA and former NFL player. Like, she gets clowned a lot, dude. This is uh little reading that Edwards, she was the first, uh, she was the fourth pick. It's hard to see there, but yeah, it's much glare.
SPEAKER_02I believe it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's too much glare. Anyway, there she is. Anyway, she's six foot, she's six foot one, dude. She's an absolute beast. So anyway, yeah, San Jose player, but like you saw her just towering over uh Batman. It was great. So congrats, Layla Edwards. Uh, welcome to San Jose. We love you. First overall pick. Yep, she played for Wisconsin, the Wisconsin badges. So, anyway. Um, so yeah, I I think it's I don't even think it's gonna be a competition between the PWHL and the WMBA. Two biggest uh professional women's uh sports leagues.
SPEAKER_03I think you're a little biased though, Brandon.
SPEAKER_00What are you talking about? I tried to like the WMBA for years.
SPEAKER_03What do you I know, but I mean you're still biased though. How? Because you much prefer hockey than basketball.
SPEAKER_00That's not even true. I love basketball. I love the NCT. Which one do you like more?
SPEAKER_03Given the WNBA if there was a hockey game on and a basketball game on, which one would you watch?
SPEAKER_00Depends on the situation. If it's the playoffs, I'm gonna watch the NBA game. If it's a bigger game, I'm gonna watch the NBA game. If it's a bigger game in hockey, if it's a nothing game in hockey, no, I'm gonna watch the bigger game. Like back in the day, if it was Portland and the Lakers, I would watch the players or the Sharks and Vancouver midseason, I'm watching the Lakers and the Blazers. Ten times out of ten.
SPEAKER_03I'm not referring to a specific game, I'm just saying in general. No.
SPEAKER_00And this is based on facts, stats, attendance. They're smoking them. It's not even close. Like the only time where it's close is when Caitlin. Clarks at an NBA arena. PWHL is in its just finished its third year and they're selling out NHL arenas. Like every almost like several games. Not just one or two, not just three or four. A bad night in the PWHL might be six to eight thousand fans. Compared to the WHAT.
SPEAKER_02I used AI. I asked AI what their average fan attendance to their games are. The WBA. WNBA. It's at 11,000. I'm like.
SPEAKER_00They're going base. Yeah, I know. They're they're I know. It's like AI. But uh, yeah, they go paid attendance versus uh actual attendance. Now people are buying the tickets and not showing up. Great. At least they're getting that revenue. So and again, Caitlin Clark has helped that massively. That and some cities. I will tell you this the Bay Area, Golden State Valkyries, look at their average attendance. They are that is an area that is actually supporting the WMBA team. I'll give give it to Golden State. Right there, uh, they're playing at the Chase Center, which is uh where the Warriors play. Tell you what, man, look up their average attendance. They the Bay Area is supporting the WMBA.
SPEAKER_01That's how it is with the Las Vegas Aces. They gave it to the city. Yeah, they built them their own arena too, right, Brandon? Yeah, sort of. Like it's for the Mandalay Bay, so like other stuff happens.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wait, is it at the event center? Yeah. Oh, that's a great little arena. That's perfect for for that. What is it about for basketball? What is it about 8,500? Nine.
SPEAKER_01I think it's a little bit higher than that, but somewhere around that. What is it? I think it's like a little bit higher than that, but close.
SPEAKER_00Okay. All right, yeah, because I remember um God, when they were gonna open up that arena, I almost got a job uh part-time running the Dactronics, the scoreboards, and the monitors. So um anyway, that's but yeah, so I I remember they also did a hockey game there a long time ago. You probably remember, like it was like maybe 2000, 2001. So I was curious. That's that's a great spot for the Aces. That's awesome. It's and like I said, I would imagine it's like 8,500, like you said, maybe a little bit more, maybe 10,000, maybe 12.
SPEAKER_0212,000, okay. Yeah, Micelobe Ultra Arena.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so that's not bad. And and like Brandon said, I knew the Aces had a decent following. Um, you know, like UNLV still does alright, you know what I mean? They play in the giant Thomas and Max Center, so but anyway, very cool, but it's something's gotta change. You gotta you gotta treat your stars better.
SPEAKER_02Or they're gonna leave because they could go play in that what is that three-on-three tournament?
SPEAKER_00That yeah, it's big three, it's Ice Cubes League. And yeah, they dude, they offered her what five million a year. The European League offered her a card contract contract. There's some great Euro basketball leagues too out there. Uh uh, Spain has a great professional league. Um, so there are some really great, and it's like if you go to Asia, okay, you have the KBL, the Korean Basketball League, that's a pro league. You have the CBL, China Basketball League. These are very, very good, very professionally run leagues. Um, I've watched a lot of the KBL and CBL over the last couple of years. Um, and yeah, here's the other thing their attendance is through the roof over there. China loves basketball, dude. It's it's one of their biggest sports. So, yeah, and and the Korean Basketball League also does pretty well. I don't know how much they get paid over there, but you'll watch. Like, I watched a couple of uh Korean Basketball League games um just at work when I was bored, and I'm scrolling through and I watched it, dude. The arenas are packed. So there's always those options, like um, like hockey and basketball both, like there are leagues everywhere, pro leagues everywhere, but they don't pay like the NBA or the NHL. So anyway. So okay. Anyway, with that, we'll move on uh to the World Cup. We got USA getting ready to start. We're in the round of 32. Um, Steve, go. What do you got?
SPEAKER_03It's actually on right now. I just uh I just turned it on. They just started the game. We're two minutes into it.
unknownGood, good.
SPEAKER_03Um, it's only the third time that the US has actually won their group challenge in FIFA history. Only the third time, only the third time in FIFA history that they won their group. Okay.
SPEAKER_00And so, but if if we win today, but let's go USA, baby.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. If if we win today against Bosnia-Herzegovina Herzegovina, um will all three uh host teams will have made it to the round of 16 because Canada won today against or a couple days ago against South Africa, and Mexico just won last night against uh Ecuador. So I saw Mexico. All three win. We'll have three host cities in sixty in the round of sixteen, which is kind of cool.
SPEAKER_00We're uh we're at the ho we're at a hotel in uh in Harrisburg uh for my daughter's dance national's dance competition, right? Um so it was uh I yeah. So um there was a whole bunch of Hispanics out in the parking lot late last night going nuts when they won. Oh so yeah, there was a big still.
SPEAKER_02It was awesome, though. They all had and they and they and they let them play. The game was in Mexico City, I think, so that's kind of cool. Like, oh dude, just it was exciting. Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's it's just yeah, absolutely, absolutely incredible. Just yeah, really cool. Happy for Mexico. Who else is in, guys? Well, into the German got knocked out.
SPEAKER_01Who did Germany? That was a big upset. That I okay, huge one, yeah. And it cost 10 prices to drop for the next game against France. Interesting.
SPEAKER_03Belgium won an extra time earlier today. What's that, Steve? Belgium won an extra time today. They came back up, they came back from uh 0-2. That was the game you were watching, right?
SPEAKER_00Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's twice in less than five minutes, and it's been winning over uh extended time.
SPEAKER_02What did you think of Belgium? Because if we win, that's who we play in the round of 16. Yes. So we'll play Belgium, but yeah, France is going through, Sweden's out, the squeezed, the squeeze, um, Germany, the German, Germany lost, and oh, so sad, the Netherlands are gone. Oh no more rowing. Oh, they lost shootout to Morocco.
SPEAKER_00I don't think the Irish even I don't think the Irish would that be scummy. That's hilarious. Uh Brandon real quick brought up something very, very interesting. Depending on who loses or goes out, that's gonna fluctuate uh secondary market ticket prices, which we have talked a lot about across uh the four major sports. So that's an interesting thing. Brandon said, What happened, Brandon? The tickets drop or did they go way up?
SPEAKER_01They drop because they're using dynamic pricing, so prices just fluctuate automatically. And so, since like you know, Germany's a previous World Cup winner, you know, them playing France, that's a huge matchup, and then them losing now Paraguay going in it against France, it's not as an intriguing matchup. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00Okay, that's yeah, but again, like Brandon said, like, imagine if Team USA was to lose, the ticket prices for the next game would plummet. So interesting thing, interesting angle there, Brandon. I like it.
SPEAKER_03So I always get a kick out of watching these people roll on the ground though after they after they get hurt.
SPEAKER_00I know. My wife does it to me all the time. Ashley, if I bump into her on the hallway, she goes.
SPEAKER_03You would think that they're like my son definitely does like an app or something.
SPEAKER_02I have very important news. Oh yes. It's the Netherlands team that does or sorry, it's Norway that does the rowing. And they're I said Netherlands before. Oh Norway does the rowing, and they will end up playing England in the round of 16. So we will get another chance for more rowing.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'll be ready to use Norway. I misspoke. Norway's playing Brazil.
SPEAKER_00Get your facts straight, Nick. Damn it. Damn it, Nicholas. Damn it.
SPEAKER_01That's my that's my upset prediction for next round is Norway over Brazil.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, you heard it here. That's that's a good one.
SPEAKER_01I like that. Norway has one of the top goal scorers, so Norway over Brazil, folks.
SPEAKER_00Is that going to happen? Let us know in the comments. Or is uh the stuff has the stuff lost its stuff? I doubt it. I like it. I I I've that's intriguing now. I want to see it. Now, real quick before we move on to the NHL, what is Team USA gonna win tonight? What's our predictions?
SPEAKER_02They're a 65% favorite.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. Well, being a favorite doesn't mean squat.
SPEAKER_02I know, but this is uh this is the first game in the tournament where all of our starters are playing together. Uh, we had one guy that was that was sitting for a calf tightness or injury, and then they sat a bunch of people in their last game. They sat a bunch of last pol I can't say his name. I it's Christian Polson or Pol Pulaskin or something. I can't say his name right. Okay. My mouth doesn't do it, but anyway, he'll be playing. And then they also sat a bunch of people for the last pool game so that their yellow cards would fall off before the round of 32. So we'll have a full squad going in to the round of 32, which uh I mean it's on right now. It should be awesome. I'm waiting for us to wrap up.
SPEAKER_00I can see Steve. I can see Steve watching it. Yep. Going back, of course. Well, with that, here we go. Let's get into the NHL. We just had the draft, uh, free agency open today. Um did anything happen, Brandon? Yeah, a lot a lot's happened. Um, I know. I know. So a bunch of teams. Uh, there's been a bunch of signings. Um the draft was we went to the draft, went to the first round of the draft. We didn't go to rounds two through seven, but what a great experience. Very cool to see. Like, uh, the way the NHL did it this year, all the the couches were down on the floor where normally like all the executives sit. Really cool to see them with their families at the couch and celebrating, getting picked, just really, really great moments for everybody. Um, I I love the Daxon Rudolph pick at four to the Sabres. Uh, my personal like evaluation. Um, you know, people think it's weird that I do that. And it's like, no, I like when you're sitting at home reading a book or watching TV, I'm running tape. It's what I do for fun and for relaxation. Um, I've always done it. I do it with quarterbacks in the NFL because there's so much that goes into that. So I I enjoy scouting players. Um, I had Daxon Rudolph as a very close second to Chase Reed, um, followed by Albert Smith and then Carells and so on and so forth. Um Keaton Verhoff. Um, I you know, as a Shark fan, I hope I'm wrong, but no, I I just don't see it. Scouts love him because he's a big-bodied guy, and yeah, he played D1, he's a big kid. Um, whether he's gonna be great in the NHL, I don't know. I I think he's years, years away from being a player that can make an impact in the NHL. Not always right, you know what I mean? It's usually about 90% for me. So, you know, I hope he's wrong. I I mean, I hope I'm wrong. Obi's great. Um San Jose loved the Ivar Stenberg pick. Mike Reerr has just been a genius with this rebuild. Um also like Anaheim and St. Louis were very active um in the draft. I couldn't believe that Anaheim got rid of uh McTavish. Um, but very interesting move there. Thought it was great for both teams, especially if you know McTavish isn't fitting in. Um, again, it great moves. It was it was a lot of fun. There was so many trades in the first round that it was it was pretty wild. So, what did you guys think, Steve?
SPEAKER_03I mean, the draft, I mean, other than the couple days before it happened with the you know, those couple trades, it was kind of right along the lines of what everybody predicted.
SPEAKER_00Um, I mean, Daxon Rudolph right there was he was predicted to maybe go 10th or lower. So it was like that's okay, right.
SPEAKER_03Most of the ones in the mock drafts that I saw, he was around between three and five. Daxon Rudolph?
SPEAKER_00Daxon Rudolph was rated by scouts a lot lower. They thought he was maybe gonna go 10th or 11th, maybe 9th. Yeah, no way. I have a question for you.
SPEAKER_03How long is how old do players that are drafted prospects usually wait before they enter the uh the league?
SPEAKER_00It depends on the players, Steve. Honestly, it's like Ivar Stenberg for San Jose is gonna be in the NHL next year. Uh Gavin McKenna, obviously, uh, he's gonna be in the NHL next year. Um, we got to see Gavin McKenna literally 10 feet doing an interview. He's a great kid. Um, really just a good dude. I think people have a misconception about him, which is funny. What we could talk about that other time. But it's um it just depends, Steve, honestly, because it's like you look at the amount of players that did get drafted, Chase Reed. It's going to he's going to Michigan State next year. So it depends on how they how they develop. Uh major junior, it's like it's it's a league that's so wide open nowadays, it's not like it was like in the 90s or even early 2000s, where it's like is D1. D1's a men's league. So it's like kids that are playing in Division I'm now considered better development spot than major junior. Okay. Because the AHL, you have to be 21. So if kid's not 21, he's either going back to his major junior or D1 team, or he's going to the NHL. So it just depends. Some kids, too, you know, they're there immediately and make an immediate impact. Matthew Schaeffer, great example. He was a defenseman first overall last year.
SPEAKER_03He's already an all-I just looked it up, and according to AI, it's three to five years. Anybody outside the top ten pick.
SPEAKER_00I mean, there's there's I've seen both. That's according to AI.
SPEAKER_03I mean, obviously there's gonna be outliers, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00I yeah. Okay. So it it really just depends. Like I said, it's there's guys that are drafted in the fourth round that wait uh two, maybe two years and they're they make an impact into the NHL. It's like they're like I said, there's players in that draft that got drafted in the fourth or fifth round that'll be an all-star in two or three years. It just it just depends. It's different than most leagues. It's very different than how they bring how everything works. You look at what the NBA, the NFL, let's use the NFL. Number one, you gotta be at least 21, right? Number two, once you declare for the draft, you cannot go back to college at all. The NBA is like that. Um, so is Major League Baseball. And it's because they don't have issues with tampering or anything else like that for whatever reason. So, Brandon, how'd you feel about the draft?
SPEAKER_01Well, it's mainly just sad for to see Dora Fave uh get traded to Rangers, but it made sense because he was gonna be a free agent today, so you might as well get something for him while you can.
SPEAKER_00The Rangers immediately signed him seven, what, seven, eight years, seven and a half million a year. Or seven, seven for seven and a half, I think. Here's the thing. Dork Diev is an absolute stud, and he's gonna be an all-star in the league. Vegas is this is kind of the issue that they're gonna start running into is that they cannot, they couldn't pay him, they weren't gonna be able to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it's like, okay, let's and it was a good move by Vegas. Get something for him. It's like uh the Alex Tuck deal in Buffalo. They knew that he was leaving in free agency, it started today. So it's like, okay, well, let's just let's let's trade him, let's get something for him. And they got a third-round draft pick for him. Great move. You know, it's Vegas did the same thing, so it's you know, a lot of a lot of interesting moves. Um, anything in free agency that you like so far or you think might happen.
SPEAKER_01I mean, there was one today, or is it bringing it up? Let's see, they got uh weatherspoon from the penguins today. Oh, yeah, I did see that. Yeah, and penguins are retaining like 50% of his salary, so that'll help with the cap.
SPEAKER_00Which is great for makes, right? It's great. And it's what'd they what'd they send to Pittsburgh?
SPEAKER_01Uh they gave him uh Corzak. What's that? Uh they sent over Korzak to the Penguins, okay. Which I'm fine with. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So it's and I was fine with the pick that they made in the first round of Finnish player.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fresh mean his name. I was just looking that up, actually. Yeah, I can't remember. I got you.
SPEAKER_01It was a tricky name, so don't even have potential in a couple of years.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Okay. Um did you guys see Bowen Byron did sign with Chicago? Uh Chicago got him via trade from Buffalo for the fourth overall pick. Six years, $12.5 million a year. Byron got absolutely paid, dude. Um let's see. It's there's there's been a bunch. It's uh San Jose obviously was very active today. Um, they signed uh Marchmint from Columbus uh for five years. That was a five-year deal. Um let's see. What else? There's been there's it, and it's just getting started. Like I just do you guys think anybody big's gonna get moved?
SPEAKER_04No, no.
SPEAKER_02I mean, in moved in how? Like traded or free agency signed, yes, signed, traded. Well, I know Dylan Larkin wants out, but Iserman has said that he's in no rush. And he's not gonna do it if it's gonna hurt the team. I I know he wants out, it sucks, but which is fine.
SPEAKER_00But here's the thing you look at the Warinski, all the Worinski rumors are BS. Zach came out today and said, I'm not going anywhere, I'm in Columbus. It's like we're not, you gotta remember to not believe everything that the media is getting. You know what I mean? It's like the media and this and that. It's just a lot of it's bullshit. You know what I mean? So I don't know. Um, I think the I I really love the Byron move in Chicago. I think that's a great signing for them, but it kills me because it's Chicago.
SPEAKER_01I'm questioning the Bobrowski move.
SPEAKER_00Yep, Babrowski. I I put that one in our chat. What do you think? Why you don't like it? I don't like it.
SPEAKER_01I mean it's only three years. Yeah, but you got rid of your two times part of your Stanley Cup winning team two years in a row, and that it's not like it was five years ago, it was just two years ago.
SPEAKER_00Here's the thing, Brandon.
SPEAKER_01I I'll say that's not like it's not the reason why they did bad. Last year.
SPEAKER_00No, but he's 38. I know you gotta take the emotion out of it, but and it's he can still play in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01I he's still a starting goalie.
SPEAKER_00What's that?
SPEAKER_01He's still a starting goalie, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_00That's fair. I and he is. He's going to Toronto. I mean, I it's I don't know. It's it is what it is. I it in my mind, I think Florida's going after Connor Hellenbuck. That's that's my prediction. I'm gonna say it now. I think Heli, I think Heli's going to Florida.
SPEAKER_01Maybe, but it makes sense. Between the two, I'd rather have Bob Brotsky.
SPEAKER_00Really? Yep. Wow, why? Connor Hellenbuck's eight years younger, and it he's better. I I mean it's you know, if you disagree, that's okay. I just I don't know.
SPEAKER_03That's no, I kind of agree with you on the on because he Florida likes the buzz of players too. And Helenbrook would just be he has the buzz right now from the U.S. Olympics and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00So but look at his stat. I mean, everything about him, he's just so good. Oh, I I don't disagree with that. And I'm not saying they like to play buzz players. I'm not saying that Babrowski isn't. He's still got game. I I just I don't know. I I I if you have a chance to go after Connor Hellenbuck, it's like, Jesus, man, you gotta you gotta take it. And again, I'm not taking anything away from Babrowski. I really am not.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just outside of stats, I just like his playstyle more, and he just kind of only I would want on my team.
SPEAKER_00I I would not be upset if Babrowski was the tender in San Jose, for instance. It's like, yeah, he's absolutely absolutely fantastic. So yeah. But uh anyway, uh let's see here. So here's the uh here's the trade that San Jose, another trade that San Jose did. Um San Jose gets defenseman, Darnell Nurse. Uh for Shakir, Mukhalomadalin, and Zach Sharp, just a prospect in San Jose, not a not a big, you know, not a like tier one, but like a tier two or tier three prospect. So um, so yeah, Shakir and Zach Sharp. Shakir was a starting uh defenseman um for San Jose last year. There was kind of like word that he was kind of like in a put up or shut up kind of year. We need more consistency. Sharks just said, see ya, and uh kind of just are replacing him with Darnell Nurse. Um, not a lot of great comments from Edmonton Euler fans, and uh I I I don't know. It is what it is. Um, I trust Greer and what he's doing, um, because he's he's been fantastic so far in this rebuild. Uh, not really sure what he's doing. Um, with the marchman trade, it is what it is. Um, I'd rather see like Quentin Musty come up or defensive prospects like uh Luca Cagnoni and Eric Polkamp, who are ready to be in the NHL. So um the Sharks did that, plus um they also got where is he at? Um they also signed Jacob Truba. Um, Jacob Truba got four years, 33 million from San Jose, and so it's like you know, not really sure what where he's going with it, but it is what it is. So um we'll see how all those work out. Um I didn't see anything else really big yet in NHL free agency. So Babrowski deal is a big deal. Um Dark.
SPEAKER_03I'm just reading this a helibuck. What's that uh according to his contract? Hellibuck, he has a uh full no movement clause for this offseason.
SPEAKER_00He's as already said he he can wave it.
SPEAKER_03So he okay, so he can wave.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the players the players can wave it.
SPEAKER_03The player can wave it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, correct.
SPEAKER_03It says he was obviously in the rumors because he was unhappy with the Jets, but right apparently next season it converts to a 10-team approved trade list.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, he signed for 2031, but he'd waited a year or away to move.
SPEAKER_00It's it's getting rid of that contract as well as the player, so it's like, yeah, and if if he goes to a team, it's like, hey, here you go, you got a player under contract for five more years. So yeah, but anyway, um, yeah, that's really it so far. Obviously, uh San Jose came out swinging, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_03So they definitely went full throttle.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I was I was shocked. I was shocked by every single one of the moves. So like I said, I I I would rather see them bring up young guys and let them develop, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, there's a lot of you know fans out there that are like, it's like San Jose was a perennial contender for almost two decades, and so it's like it's like you got a spoiled fan base there as well, and it's like, okay, well, they're rebuilding. This is the first time in the franchise's history that they've actually done like a full throttle bottom of the barrel rebuild. Let the young kids come up. It's like I, you know, you don't have people that think they just they just want to see one thing, so it is what it is, but anyway, um, yeah, so um now we're gonna go kind of into our top five. Unless anybody has anything else with NHL draft free agency, it's like uh it'll be, I think, an interesting week. But uh anyway, we wanted to do a quick thing and just kind of tell everybody like there is always this thing about pro golfers, you have all these pro athletes, right? That are like, well, we do this and we do that, and we have sponsors. People don't realize if you are in the top 125 in the world, life is great, right? You're always making cuts, you're making money. So the golfers, though, every single one of them, they pay for their tournament entry fees, their travel, everything. And the caddies themselves pay for their own travel as well.
SPEAKER_03Golf is an expensive sport, right?
SPEAKER_00So let's say you and Steve, the entry fees into these tournaments are massive, right?
SPEAKER_03And that's not just the equipment that you need to play the game is ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00I can tell you my bag of clubs is just over three thousand dollars, is what overall it costs to put it all together. So and these guys, yeah. So you take all of that, right? And now you have to pay for your entry fees, you pay for Airbnb, right? PGA does give every player a courtesy car, usually a Cadillac, because they're that's their sponsorship. If these players don't make the cut, that means they play Thursday and Friday, you have a cut line that's 50 to 75 players that go on to play the weekend Saturday and Sunday. If you miss the cut, guys, you don't get paid. You leave with nothing. So you might have 10, 15, 20,000 into that weekend. You don't make the cut, you go home. You don't get any money.
SPEAKER_02You have to pay the entry fee for the warm-up.
SPEAKER_00It's it's not a warm-up, it's you have it's a four-day tournament, Nick.
SPEAKER_02You understand? I do, and then you have to qualify for the weekend.
SPEAKER_00Your overall score, if you don't make that line that's whatever, let's say top 50 is what it normally is, if you don't hit that score in your Thursday and Friday rounds, then yes, you get cut. You don't make the weekend, you don't make it to the final three rounds three or four.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And you go home. No money. There's no money. It's tough. Like it is a tough life. And then you have what's called the corn ferry tour, which is the tour they're all pros, but they're trying to make it to the PGA tour. It's almost like the minor leagues. Caddies also pay for all their own travel. And depending on the golfer, they get anywhere from six to ten percent on the higher end. Isn't that crazy? So, yeah, that's nuts. If you don't make the the weekend, you're asked out. It's it's wild, man. So it's a tough, it's listen, it's a great life to a point, and these guys do have sponsors, so some I'm sure they get some money, sponsorship money, and stuff like that, which definitely helps. But imagine being in a slump and there's no paycheck like in the NFL, MBA, NHL, MLB, when you're playing. At least you're getting a check, even if you're in a slump, you're in a slump and you don't make weekends on the PGA tour, you're not getting paid at all. Wow.
SPEAKER_02It's way different.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's very different. And it's, you know, people are like, golf's this. It's dude, it's an exanely difficult sport. So anyway, just thought that was an interesting little tidbit that uh might might be interesting to listen to. So um, with that said, uh, we are gonna do a little ladies' corner this week. We're gonna talk about some golf terminology. Okay. Um, my wife said um when I was talking to her about it, because this whole thing, ladies' corner, was my wife Ashley's idea. Thank you, Ashley. Um, it's we're you know, well, hopefully people enjoy it, but uh it's there are some terms out there. Ashley, um Ashley said, tell them what a bogey is.
SPEAKER_02So um how about you try to stump us?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no. Stump you, no, it's just a bogey. So in golf, the goal is to have the lowest amount of strokes. That's how it's scored. If you're under par, that's really good. That means if you shoot under par consistently, you are what's called a plus handicap. So, but we're not gonna get into that. The term bogey means you're one stroke over par for that hole. A par is how many strokes it takes to go from teeing off, that means starting the hole, how many total strokes it takes you to get the ball into the hole at the end of that of that hole. Okay, so if it's a par four, that means you have four shots to get it in the hole. So you tee off, that's one shot, then you go find your ball, you hit the second shot, that's two, then you get three and four. Once you've hit your fourth, if it's not in the hole, now you have now you're going for a bogey. A single bogey means one stroke over what you were supposed to get it in the hole. That's a bogey. Now, you can also have a double bogey or a triple bogey, depending on how many times it takes you still to get the ball in the hole. And that is a bogey.
SPEAKER_02And then every every hole on every professional PGA level golf course is either a par three, four, or five, correct?
SPEAKER_00Correct. There's never more than a par five and never less than a par three. And honestly, Nick, that's pretty much uh I've never played on a course that has a par six.
SPEAKER_02I know they're out there, but uh but they're not played by professionals. They're not, I mean, that's just somebody who turned over, that's just somebody who turned their runway in the backyard into a driving range.
SPEAKER_00Probably, yes, absolutely. But anyway, yeah, so that is uh that is a bogey. Um now a birdie is if you get it one stroke less than the suggested amount. Like Nick said, if it's a par three, if you get a two, that's a birdie. If it's a par five and you get it in four strokes, that's also a birdie. That's one under the par. Um, an eagle is two strokes under the par. Unless you're on a par three, that's a hole in one, also known as an ace. So there you go. And if you get it in the suggested uh number, like if it's a par four and you get a four, it's a par. It's considered a par. So that is this week's ladies' corner. I hope it helps. I hope you enjoy Ladies' Corner. And with that, we will move into the final segment of the evening, and that is our top five. Um, this week's top five, since we were uh discussing golf and we've done movies, we haven't done a top five sports movies in uh a little while. We are going to go with top five golf movies. There are some good ones out there. My wife loves them.
SPEAKER_03Some of you love Timberwore, though. I thought there were more, but as soon as I started going through my top, yeah. I know going through the top ones, I'm like, it has to be this one and it has to be this one. It's like every time I'm like, okay, I gotta put this one in there, but this one, if I put this, I can't put that.
SPEAKER_02I'm just excited to see how Brandon, Steve, and I score the same five movies and how where where the stuff finds his five movies.
SPEAKER_00There's always a chance that uh you know it's gonna be off the wall. So he hasn't surprised us though in a while, I feel like.
SPEAKER_02So he's got that shit eating grin though. It's coming.
SPEAKER_01I know I'm gonna get hate.
SPEAKER_02I will support you no matter what.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, all right, let's see here. All right, are we ready? We are ready. Yes. All right, Steve theme music for our top five. Steve, what is your top? What is your number?
SPEAKER_03My number five is the actually, I think it was one of the most more recent ones, the long game. It actually beat out one of the older ones that I had, but uh long game. Uh it's I don't know, it's just a good movie. It's a great movie. The story was a little it at times dry, but it was uh it's still it's a good movie.
SPEAKER_00I like it. So it's not on my top five, but I 100% it is a great movie. I saw it recently, like six months ago. It's a true story, that's the thing. Yeah. And it's great, and it shows honestly how far golf has come because it it really shows you kind of like a darker side of the game's history, but it's also like baseball and the race, you know, the lines, and well, and again, how Hispanics were treated though back then was even worse than black people. It was it was atrocious.
SPEAKER_03So well, it's it's like again, it's an expensive game to play, so it it is. It's more of an elite type of game versus most most other sports.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know, yeah. You're right, but it's still I I don't know. I I thought it was just it's it's always been it's a great it's a great movie, it's a great film, it's a great sport, but it is for it is for everyone. But this show's like so far. It should be for everyone. Country clubs were one of the most segregated places out there, honestly. Absolutely. So as I say that, and I belong to a private, but they were from older men too.
SPEAKER_02That's true. Sexist and racist, double banger. Here we go. Yeah, so all right, Brandon.
SPEAKER_00The stuff. What is your number five?
SPEAKER_01My number five is from old school Hollywood, 1952's Pat and Mike. Starring the great legendary actor, Spencer Tracy, and Katherine Hepburn. Yeah, it's actually one of Catherine Hepburn's favorite movies to make.
SPEAKER_00I think I've seen I have not seen awesome, awesome, awesome. So good. Great number five. Nick Brown, what is your number five?
SPEAKER_02Going back in time to the year 2000 for The Legend of Bagger Vance, Will Smith, Matt Damon. It's it's an amazing movie.
SPEAKER_00It's a great golf movie. That was gonna be my number five, but great golf movie. Um, my number five is my number five is going to be the greatest game ever played. Um, it's got Shia LaBeouf in it, uh, Steven Delane, Josh Filter, and Peyton, uh Peyton List. Um, just a great movie. Um, if you haven't seen it, go check it out. Um his buddies, just an underdog story, you know what I mean? So about a young kid trying to get uh into the U.S. Open. It it shows you how different things were played back then. It's very accurate. They did a great job with the time and everything else.
SPEAKER_03So number five has better movies, too.
SPEAKER_00It's one of I think one of his few best better movies outside your mouth. Outside of the Transformers, yeah. I I think this is probably my favorite Shia LaBeouf movie outside of Transformers. So um, Steve, what is your number four?
SPEAKER_03My number four is Tin Cup, Kevin Costner. I love that movie.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I've watched I've probably watched that one every year or so. Where did your wife put Tin Cup on your list, Brandon?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so what uh Brandon, the stuffed trainer. What is your number four, buddy?
SPEAKER_01I also had tin cup at number four, Kevin Costner, Renee Russo.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Renee Russo was great in that movie, honestly. She made that movie so much, I think, better, honestly, with her like yeah, stuff, and not that Kevin Costner and Cheech Marin weren't brilliant. So, but anyway, great number four. Uh, Nick, what's your number four?
SPEAKER_02Um, first off, the best shot of the booth movie is Peanut Butter Falcon. And two, my number four is the greatest game ever played. Okay, uh, beautiful underdog story, loved it.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Awesome. My number four is The Legend of Bagger Vance. Um, again, we talked about it. Great movie. I I love it for Will Smith, too. Matt Damon, just everybody in the movie, a lot of really A-list, A-list uh actors and everything. It was just a great movie. So, right on, Steve. Let's get it, buddy.
SPEAKER_03What is your number three would be greatest game ever played? Everybody already got that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I honestly, yeah, absolutely fantastic. So, um, yeah. Brandon, what is your number three?
SPEAKER_01My number three came out the same year as Tin Cup 1996. Okay, happy Gilmore. Very good. Adam Sandler classic. Sure. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Nick, number three. Number three, uh, already been said, the other 1996 movie, Tin Cup. Tin Cup, okay. And I would have to say that his 18th hole meltdown in that movie is one of my favorite endings.
SPEAKER_00It yeah, honestly, it's just like I I remember watching the movie and just being like, Jesus Christ, man, just you know, I just didn't want to see him go anymore. So um, yeah, very good. Um, yeah, so my number three, I'm gonna go with Happy Gilmore. Just a fun, great movie, great golf movie, as far as just uh you know, overall comedy. So um Steve, number two, Gaddy Shack.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm really interested to see your number one.
SPEAKER_00All trying to be said, Brandon the stuffed trainer. What is your number two?
SPEAKER_01Uh here we go. My number two movie that just made me laugh uncontrollably when I was a kid. Be diserpost not to put it in this spot. The Tim Conway classic, Dwarf on Golf. All right, very good.
SPEAKER_02Nick, number two. Sorry, that is a hilarious answer. Uh, number two, happy Gilmore, because anytime you get to see Bob Barker fight, it's awesome.
SPEAKER_00Sure. Great classic comedy movie. Uh, my number two is Caddyshack. Um, just such a great, not just a great golf movie, but just great uh old school golf courses, even public, were required to have caddies. It was a job in the 60s and 70s that you did, even at maybe higher-end, you know, public courses, and it really was a big deal when caddies started to get replaced by carts. That was a real thing that went on in the 80s. And you know, the again, the 60s and 70s, it was a great job. I remember talking to my dad about it. Um, never really gave me a lot of great advice, but it was he did have a couple of good stories. So it that was one of them about how you know when we first watched that movie, how you know this was a real thing, like you know, it was like, and then cart started to replace caddies, and then really into the 90s, it started to happen late 90s into the early 2000s at private country clubs, they started to go away. So, anyway, and just a hilarious movie with that cast and Bill Murray and Rodney Dangerfield. I mean, just fantastic. So, here we go. Number one, Steve.
SPEAKER_03Happy Gilmore. I absolutely love that movie. I can watch that movie any time of the day.
SPEAKER_00Right on, right on, yeah. I agree.
SPEAKER_03It's uh especially when it goes up against the clown.
SPEAKER_00The clown, yeah. That scene is absolutely hysterical.
SPEAKER_01All right, Brandon. Number one. My number one is Caddy Shack, one of the greatest comedies of all time, and there's so much stuff that happened behind the scenes of that movie. I could talk about that movie forever with everything that went on and all the changes that were made.
SPEAKER_00Talking about like with the director and and yeah, it there's a lot of great stories. I I love that you brought that up. There's so many great stories about that, like Brandon said. Absolutely, totally agree. The documentaries that they did on that movie, it's not Ivan Reitman. God, who is the uh he was in the Ghostbusters, the director of the movie.
SPEAKER_01Um, no you're thinking of uh Bill Murray. No, his head was just in my his name was just in my head.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he died, he passed away. Um, but yeah, he was he he was in Ghostbusters with Bill Murray. Zebecus. Uh yeah. No, no, it's anyway. We'll come back to it, but Harold Ramis. That's who it was. Harold Ramis, yeah, he helped write it. It it brilliant, and the way that he directed that movie was fantastic. He really let them go.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, um one of the things I'll quickly mention is that you know that if you remember that scene between uh Chevy Chase and Bill Murray.
SPEAKER_00In the in the in the house, right?
SPEAKER_01In the little Yeah, that scene was never in the script. They just realized they just realized one day they didn't put the scene with the two characters together, so they quickly just threw that together.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna play through, is what uh Bill Murray and Chevy Chase called it in an interview or a panel. They said the playthrough scene.
SPEAKER_03I'm just gonna play through.
SPEAKER_00Can I get a ruling here? It it's it just shows both of their brilliance as actors. Yeah, and Ramus as as just an incredible, he knew who he had. It's just anyway, going on and on about it. But yeah, great, great. I'm so glad you brought that up. Just there's like you said, Brandon, we could probably talk for an hour just on this. So anyway, uh moving on, great number one, Caddyshack's legendary movie. Nick, what's your number one, buddy? Caddyshack, number one. Very good. Um, my number one is Tin Cup, as far as just uh golf movie, the what it takes for an amateur to get into the US Open. Obviously, you know, Tin Cup's blah blah blah. You know, didn't have the head game, which it's funny about uh the head game. Dude, under pressure in a club championship is difficult. With 250,000 people following you around a golf course, cameras. That's that's that's hard. It's just you out there, you know what I mean? And your your caddies there, but it's like that, like Nick said, that scene at the end, it's like I I I all I'm like, what are you no, no, no? I wouldn't have gone for it to begin with. I would have laid up with a chance to win the US Open. Now, the previous three days, yeah, I'd have kept going for it. But on the last day, and for it to end the way that it did, every time I'm standing up like, yeah. So, anyway, that's our top five, guys. Let us know what your top five is. Um, and if you agree or disagree. If you disagree with us, well, I'm sorry to tell you, but you're wrong. So, anyway, but no, tell us what uh what your favorites are. Um, Steve, final thoughts. Final thought, USA just went up 1-0. Let's go. World Cup, baby. Brandon the stuff trainer. What is your final thought for the week, Bubba?
SPEAKER_01Final thought, as great as a movie Caddyshack as, do not watch Caddyshack 2. That's one of the worst movies ever made.
SPEAKER_00What one of the worst things ever by in any capacity? Great final thought. Brandon the stuff trainer is absolutely correct, folks. Please don't watch Caddyshack 2. Um, Nick Brown, final thoughts. Do you guys know what today is?
SPEAKER_02Besides July 1st. I would like to wish you all a happy Bobby Bonilla Day. Today is one of the days that Bobby Bonia gets paid $1.2 million that's been started since 2011. Um, he was just so everyone knows, he hasn't played baseball since 2001. Um, he gets half a million dollars a year from the Orioles and 1.2 from the Mets. It's because they owed him. Because they owed him $5.9 million. And it was better to just how about you just pay us this with 8% interest for 25 years? And they're like, okay. Signing signing bonuses, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's deferred comp. There's like 70 players that do it now.
SPEAKER_02It's Bobby Bonilla Day. He got 1.2 today.
SPEAKER_00Shohei Otani is currently signed by the Dodgers. He's only making $2 million a year right now. His entire contract, in fact, with the Dodgers only pays him two million a year. When he leaves baseball, for 20 years, he's gonna get around 17 to 20 million dollars. A year? A year. His entire half a billion dollar contract is only getting paid two million a year, but do the math. It's all deferred comp is what it is. A lot of players have done it. In fact, Ken Griffey Jr. was getting six million, but nobody ever talked about it. It was always funny to me. Like Ken Griffey Jr. was getting more than Bobby Bonilla once a year, and it was like he's yeah, Ken Griffey Jr.'s uh maybe it was three and a half million or something, but yeah, Griffey Jr. had a deferred comp deal with the Reds. They just take their bonus and they put it for when they retire. It's it's really smart. Yep, it's really, really intelligent. There's a ton of players doing it now, so but uh yep, July 1st, it is so right on. Um, anyway, yeah, final thought. Good one, Nick. Um don't forget to like, follow, and subscribe, guys. Go to YouTube, it's free. Give us a follow, or give us a sub uh subscribe to us, uh, TikTok. Come uh give us a follow there as well. And don't forget to subscribe to our podcast. It is on all platforms Apple, iTunes, iHeartRadio, and more. So don't forget to do that. We appreciate you folks. Hope everybody's hope everybody and their family are happy and healthy. Cheers, guys. Have a good night.