Spiritually Speaking with Lilly & Rich
The possibility of communication before a soul is born.
Tonight we have something truly special.
Many of us have heard stories about signs from loved ones after they leave this world. But tonight, we're going to explore something even more mysterious—the possibility of communication before a soul is born.
Rich will be sharing the remarkable story of his conversations with his grandson, Myles, before Myles entered this world. It's a deeply personal experience that invites us to consider the timeless nature of the soul and the possibility that consciousness exists long before birth.
Whether you've had similar experiences or you're simply curious, I invite you to keep an open heart and an open mind. We don't ask you to believe anything—only to listen, reflect, and discover what resonates with your own soul.
After Rich shares his story, we'll open the floor for questions and conversation with those of you joining us live this evening. Your insights, experiences, and questions are always an important part of these gatherings.
So, settle in, take a deep breath, and enjoy what promises to be a fascinating evening.
Spiritually Speaking with Lilly & Rich
The Possibility Of Communication Before A Soul Is Born.
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Tonight we have something truly special.
Many of us have heard stories about signs from loved ones after they leave this world. But tonight, we're going to explore something even more mysterious—the possibility of communication before a soul is born.
Rich will be sharing the remarkable story of his conversations with his grandson, Myles, before Myles entered this world. It's a deeply personal experience that invites us to consider the timeless nature of the soul and the possibility that consciousness exists long before birth.
Whether you've had similar experiences or you're simply curious, I invite you to keep an open heart and an open mind. We don't ask you to believe anything—only to listen, reflect, and discover what resonates with your own soul.
After Rich shares his story, we'll open the floor for questions and conversation with those of you joining us live this evening. Your insights, experiences, and questions are always an important part of these gatherings.
So, settle in, take a deep breath, and enjoy what promises to be a fascinating evening.
Thank you for joining us for Spiritually Speaking with Lilly and Rich. May today's conversation inspire you to listen more deeply, trust what you know, and remember that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. Until we meet again, stay curious, stay open, and keep listening to the whispers of your soul.
Thank you for joining us for Spiritually Speaking with Lilly and Rich. May today's conversation inspire you to listen more deeply, trust what you know, and remember that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. Until we meet again, stay curious, stay open, and keep listening to the whispers of your soul.
Welcome to spiritually speaking with Lily White and Richard Cody and our special live guest. As always, it's a joy to have you with us tonight. And tonight we have something truly special. Many of us have heard stories about signs from loved ones after they leave the world. But tonight we're going to explore something even more mysterious: the possibility of communication before the soul is born. Rich will be sharing the remarkable story of his conversations with his grandson Miles before Miles entered this world. It's a deeply personal experience that invites us to consider the timeless nature of the soul and the possibility that consciousness exists long before we're born. And those of you on with us tonight and listening, you're aware of that. Whether you've had similar experiences or simply curious, I invite you to keep an open heart and an open mind. We don't ask, neither Rich nor I or our guests, that you believe in anything, but listen, reflect, and discover what resonates with your own soul. After Rich shares his story, we'll open the floor for questions and conversation with those of you joining us this evening. And a big thank you for that. Your insights, experience, and questions are always an important part of these gatherings, and we love you deeply. So settle in, take a deep breath, and enjoy what promises to be a fascinating evening. So, Rich, welcome, my love, and the floor is yours.
SPEAKER_04Thank you so much, Lily. Hey everyone, thank you guys for being here today. Uh, you know, today Lily and I are going to talk about an experience that I shared with her, and just like she said, it had to do with our grandson, um, who's uh currently alive and a couple months old. But this all happened actually before he was even known uh to have been conceived, or even my daughter was aware that she was pregnant. And you know, the preface it, the whole thing, it has to do with a communication that I've been practicing uh and Lily's been practicing for a long time. For me, it's been like 15, 16 years in being a professional spirit medium and medical intuitive, and doing events and watching the accuracy of a communication that I have been showing faith in during that time and developing within myself and something that everybody has. And that communication is based on the process of inspiration, being inspired with knowledge that comes from outside of us. Learning, learning to be aware that this exists and learning how to show faith in it during our life, I think is what has evolved, allowed me to evolve to the point that it's that I currently have in this communication. And so great evidence was when I was able to talk to my talk to my uh my grandson. This happens so often in different ways, and me just talking to people in spirit that Michelle, the person I'm married to, whenever I start these new conversations, these spontaneous moments of being enlightened or receiving knowledge, she immediately documents it and starts recording it. So all this, what I'm about to tell you, is documented for so we we can see the accuracy in it all and proof in the evidence. The information that he shared with me had to do with the future. So that was one of the things that I wanted to point out before we started, that there's a physical, um, there's a physical intelligence or thinking that can't see the future. But when you learn to shift, when you learn to shift into this alternate communication, one that only your spirit can do, you get inspired with knowledge. And whether it's about the past or the current going-ons or a future event, it's all capable, it's all capable of seeing such as past events or past lives, or something currently going on in somebody's life, such as medical imbalances, or something currently behind the scenes that physically we can't see, but we'll just know about people, or future events. In this particular case, it was about future events, and it started off in two different ways. One, it was a conversation that I could sense and I became engrossed in, overwhelmed with, and Michelle would just record it and he would share information. And then there was other moments where I felt like he just quickly inspired me with answers throughout the pregnancy. So one was like a deep conversation, the other one was like a gentle whisper that happened in my ear that later on um we found to be true. So the first the first one was um I get overwhelmed. We were sitting on the back porch and we were just having coffee, and I got overwhelmed with his presence. And what I mean by overwhelmed, it's that's an experience that your spirit is having, and your brain starts to shut down. And when your brain starts to shut down, a state of peace starts to fill you, and you have that experience of a state of peace and tranquility and stillness. And then what starts to happen, as many times I do when I when I did mediumship galleries, is you start to become inspired and you immediately become aware that this isn't coming from you. It's coming from a source that you're connected to, and it's a spiritual source. And during that conversation, he shared a whole bunch of stuff. But the things I want to focus on is this. One, he told me he was an old spirit. Now, this is at a time where my daughter didn't even know she was pregnant yet. So she hasn't, she she didn't even find out she missed her period yet. She didn't take a test, but you know, currently he was he was alive and he was going to come into her body. And so there is no thinking, it's just spirit to spirit. There is no body yet formed that's capable of you know the thinking process. So here's him saying, I'm about to come into this body. Now that was important to me because he was saying as if like he was chosen or there is a path that is currently going to happen. Now that's important because he's saying that no matter what, I'm going to be born. Now that's key. And you have to learn to interpret these moments. And so when you learn to interpret them, you're more accurate in the story that it's trying to tell you. He told me he was an old soul, so that he was here on this earth in different bodies at least four other times, and that his ability to comprehend on a spiritual level and comprehend general understanding about life was going to be deeper than what most people had. And that that came into play about his past lives. So same spirit, just different bodies. He also said that he's going to be a male, he's going to be a boy born. He said that he's not going to be born on the day of when the doctor's his birthday. So the doctors are going to say he was conceived at a certain date, and then he's going to be his delivery day. He says, I'm not going to be born on that day. I'm going to be born the week before that. And it's going to be specific specifically on a Wednesday or Thursday. So we have this all documented that he's going to be a boy, it's going to be on a Wednesday or Thursday, and it's going to be the week before. And so, you know, Michelle, so we so we all have it, and he shares a whole bunch of information about his life. So as time goes forward, like throughout three weeks go by, and sure enough, we get a phone call and our daughter's pregnant. And she doesn't want to know the gender of the child. And so, and so right after we find out that she's pregnant, he comes to me again, and he's and he starts to tell a story, and he says, I want you to listen. He says, Please tell my mom that the pregnancy is going to stick. Not to be concerned. Tell my mom not to worry that the pregnancy is going to stick. And so, of course, she was concerned whether or not she was going to have the child or not. So the spotting went from one day and then it got worse and went to a second day, and she immediately went to a doctor. And so I shared with her um what her son said. I said, Don't be concerned. He says the pregnancy is going to stick. So what he's showing is a higher level of communications where he can see the future. And of course, doctors can't, because we think. And so he's showing a higher level, and it should turn out to be accurate. So a third day goes by, and the spotting gets a little bit worse, and she's really concerned. Now, what happens is that you start to mentally worry, you start to get mentally stressed out, you start to have mental fear, and you go through this quality of life where Michelle and I, because we have faith in this communication, we're not. But my daughter is. So there's a difference in quality of life when you learn to open yourself up and show faith in this communication and the accuracy of it. And so the fourth day goes by and she goes to see the doctor again. They said, We're still not concerned. And the fifth day goes by and the spotting starts to get weaker and weaker and weaker. And just like he said, tell my mom not to worry, the pregnancy is going to stick. And so we watched that come true. About a month later, um, maybe a month and a half later, there was the first moment where he kind of whispered to me, and it was during a conversation with my daughter. And in the conversation with my daughter, he shared, he says, Please tell my mom that there's enough oxygen going to my brain, that I'm not going to be, that my brain isn't going to be affected because she's worried. And so I start to giggle to myself. And my daughter, when I'm talking to her on the phone, she says, Dad, what what are you laughing about? And so I tell her what her son is saying. And she starts to laugh back, and she said, I just told my husband that this morning. She says, Because the baby has been sitting up high because of the way her placenta was, the baby was, um, or uterus, um, the baby was sitting up high, and she was concerned that the baby wasn't getting oxygen in his brain. And she said that to her husband, Mike. Now, what the baby was saying, my grandson was saying, I can hear all this, I can see all this. And so he was showing an intelligence, he was showing proof that he was a spirit. This is who we are. And he conveyed with me this conversation that just happened, and sure enough, she now felt at ease. And because she's starting to gain more faith in the communication that I'm receiving. So about a month later, the same thing happens where he whispers to me and he says, Tell my mom, thank you so much. I love the pancakes this morning. And so, in the conversation with her, I said, you know, I have to share something with you. And I said, Does this make sense to you that he wants me to say thank you for the pancakes? She goes, Oh my God. I woke up 4 30 this morning, totally hungry and didn't know what to do. So I made myself pancakes. And she goes, and I had an extra batch. She goes, just because I was so hungry. She goes, How did you know? And I said, It's your son proving he's alive. It's me talking to your son. So you just have these little moments where he's also showing humor, just like we would. So he's showing his spirit's alive, he's showing he's intelligent, he's showing that there's a there's a oneness. So the pregnancy's the pregnancy is going along, and it's getting near to it's getting near to full full term. And he has this conversation with me again. And in this conversation, he shares a whole bunch of things, but two things really stick out. And the first one he says is Um You and Michelle are gonna get there just in the nick of time from my birth. So that means whatever time we choose, whatever it is that's going on, make sure we choose wisely, because something's gonna happen unexpectedly, and he's and my daughter's gonna give birth a short time later. The other thing he shares, which is really odd, this was like a really odd statement, and I had to I had to really sit with myself to interpret it all. He says, Please tell my parents not to worry, no matter what happens. All that's going on with me is I have to grow into my health. And he says it again. Please know everything is fine. I'm just gonna grow into my health. So, in my interpretation, you know, with Michelle's help, it meant to me that he was saying that there's gonna be some perception or viewpoint that he's not gonna have good health and the doctors are gonna be concerned about him, and that his parents, because of the doctor's concern, are gonna find something that's not right with him, or they think that's not right, and he might be going through a series of times where there might be some kind of heightened fear or concern for his health. And here's him saying, I'm fine no matter what they say, if my interpretation's right, I just have to grow a little bit more, and my health is going to be fine. It always was. So as she's getting close, close to term, it's about two weeks before, and they find out that he's breach and they can't turn him back over. And so they tried to make a schedule and they can't they can't turn him back over to go head down. So they say, okay, we're going to we're not gonna let you go full term. We're going to give you a cesarean, and it's going to be on a Thursday, and it was scheduled for one week before his due date, just like he said. He said a Wednesday or Thursday. Now, just prior to this, we find out that he's also going to be a boy. So my daughter announced it at the bro at the at the baby shower. So that was the first thing. He said, I'm going to be in male, I'm going to be, I'm going to be a boy. And she announced it about a month before. And then he also said a week before my due date, and it's going to be on a Wednesday or Thursday. And he kept on showing me two days, Wednesday, Thursday. So now it's a week before scheduled the cesarean. So we decide we're going to drive down and we're going to get there because the Thursday is a cesarean, so we're going to get there Tuesday. So we drive down Tuesday night, we get there. And if you remember, the other thing he said is that you're going to get here just in time. So we get there on Tuesday night and we call our daughter up saying we're at the Airbnb, and it's like around 6:30 at night. And around eight o'clock, we get a phone call, and she says, My water just broke, and I'm about to deliver my child. Just like he said. And so they go to the hospital, she gets admitted, and not Thursday, they don't have enough time for the cesarean, but she does a cesarean on Wednesday early morning. So that was the Wednesday, Thursday that he said. And he was trying to show me the difference between the two. One was a scheduled due date, the delivery date, and the other one is when he was going to be absolutely delivered. So he's born. Everything is going great. He's born Wednesday, Wednesday early morning. It's Thursday. They're looking at him. All of a sudden they said, Oh, they walk into the room, the doctors, and say, We're a little concerned. He's got probably a heart problem. And he's got this vein that's dilated, and oxygen isn't going through his body the way it should. So we have to do a heart operation in order to enlarge this artery. Um, we've seen it many, many times before. And so we're just gonna wait. We're gonna take him away from you, we're gonna put him in a NICU, we're gonna hook him up, and he's gonna be on heart monitors. And now, all along, he's been telling me, Rich, you know, me, I'm gonna be fine. I'm healthy. I just have to grow into my health. Tell my mom and dad I'm fine. So Friday comes along, and the doctors are coming in again like every six hours, and they're just giving them an update. And they're saying, you know, we saw a shadow here, we saw a shadow here, this isn't working right, that's not working right. So you're gonna be here to at least next week, and we're gonna monitor them. If it keeps on going in this direction, he's gonna need heart surgery, and we're gonna schedule it for next week. So now my daughter, her husband are freaking out. And Michelle's looking at me, and my daughter's even looking at me. I said, He's fine. And she goes, but all the doctors, and I said, I don't, it doesn't matter because I have done this communication enough where I show faith in it now. People think that's a different way of getting answers. You're all you're doing when you think whatever's inside of your brain, you're just duplicating it. You're just taking whatever's in there, even if it's wrong. Not that they're wrong, but whatever information you have, you're duplicating it. This is enlightened information. This is information they can see about the future that includes your spirit. So Friday was a tough day for my daughter and her husband. And I keep on Michelle and I keep on talking privately, going, he's fine. And so Michelle says, Well, when do you think he's gonna be home? I said, He's he's telling me Saturday night. Maybe Sunday, but Saturday night. And that's the next day, you know. And so we go in there Saturday and we visit him, and you know, they're stressed out, and he's been in the NICU, and all of a sudden the doctors come in and it's time to give them an update. And they look at my they look at my daughter and her husband, and they said, Do you want to hear the good news or the good news? And so my daughter says, The good news, and she he says, Your son is completely fine, and he can go home tonight. She goes, Everything that we thought it was wasn't going to be, and he's absolutely fine. So they bundled him up, just like he always told me. I just have to grow into my health, and that's exactly what they said. He just needed some time to get a little bit stronger. He just needed some time to get a little bit healthier, and everything we thought was a problem, he's starting to grow out of it. It's the coolest thing in the world. And so they've been taking him home, and ever since that, he's everything's been going great. So that's my that his name is Miles, so that's my Miles story.
SPEAKER_09Rich, thank you. It's so rich, as you know. You know, first of all, I want to congratulate you on becoming a grandpa, and of course, Michelle being a grandma and uh Courtney and our hubby, you know, it's such an incredible journey, and that you're there way before even the conception. It's just incredible that Miles has contacted you, and and you know, I'm helping our listeners understand that we all have this ability, we learn to just slow down and listen. That spirit is always around us. But like you, I'll gently share um my story about Tatiana because it's similar to this. Yes, and um, and then we'll go into questions and answers unless there's something else that you'd like to to share with this. But most of you know this story that uh that are here tonight, and Tatiana is now 15 years old. But in 2001, uh her grandfather, John, my hubby, was in uh it was his first UN mission with the RCMP. He was in Kosovo at the time. And I'm sitting in my home in in Orleans at the time. I had an extra bedroom that I could did not an office, but a place to meditate and have an altar, etc. So I would go in there every morning and do my my prayer work and I would journal all. And this is documented also because I used to journal like crazy in those years. And one morning I hear. This little voice saying, I'm gonna be the go between you and John while he's away. I'm like, what? Whoa, okay. Anytime I had a message that I wanted to give to John, I knew I could go into meditation, give it to her, and I knew it was a she. I knew it was a fairy, right? And she would bring it to him, and I would never have anything to worry about. One day uh in 2003, I'm John's on another mission, and I'm in Spain with Tatiana's mother at the time. And I say to Amanda, oh god, I just got a hit from Tatiana. I had named her Tatiana, or she had told me her name was Tatiana. Uh Tatiana, I have a message for your father from Tatiana. She said, I have to go down to the coffee shop. She went as white as a sheep. Mom, where'd you get that name from? Oh she told me her name in meditation. Do you know that if I ever have a child, I always thought I'd like to call her Tatiana? So I went, whoa. So what was fascinating is in all those years, it was she's kept going talking with me and John and being the go-between, always around me from 2001 till 2011. And I knew. Now it's not that I knew, I'm sure she would have told me, and I can't remember that part, but that was John's last mission when she was born. And sure enough, she was born that May, and his last mission, I think, was he came home a few months later. So this, you know, you don't, you know, in my book that I'm right in the process of writing, you can't make this shit up. You can you can't, you know, and you're and I don't want to speak for you, Rich, but I'm certainly no more special than anybody else listening to us tonight or in this room. The difference is that I paid attention and I pray intention so that I'm open to whatever spirit is guiding me towards. And for us, we're so blessed, and I hope that some of our listeners have this experience, and some of us that are with us tonight, especially this grandchildren coming in, because I cannot wait to witness Miles and you as grandfather and grandson together, because what Tat and I have together is extraordinary. We're one person. I mean, this kid is she contacts me almost every day. How are you doing? Is everything okay? She calls me Fairy Lily, you know. Um, and Tatiana, of course, in Russian, they're from Poland, her father's from Poland originally. Um Tatiana means uh Queen of the Fairies in Russian. So I think it is just it's just so beautifully orchestrated. How the universe plays its tune. We just have to listen to the rhythm.
SPEAKER_04Yes. That's a great story. Thank you for sharing it.
SPEAKER_09Well, thank you for sharing yours. So anybody here tonight has a similar story that would like to share or a question that they would like to answer. Don't be shy. None of you in this group are shy, which I love. All you have to do is just raise put up your hand and unmute. Anybody? Yes, Randy.
SPEAKER_08I'm wondering. I love both of your stories. I knew yours before. I've heard it many times, and I have a feeling that John and Tafiana are like that. Anyway, which I want to know, Miles came to you before he was even conceived, and throughout that conception until birth, uh, two questions. Does he still talk to you? And the second one is do um people who've already passed, do they you you said that he knew the future, he could see the future. Do past beings, for example, like my father, does my father see that future as well when he comes through?
SPEAKER_04Yes. When when we're in spirit, and the way that we become in spirit, the first thing we have to do is shut down our thinking. Right? So if you have a physical intelligence and you have a spiritual intelligence, in order to get to the spiritual intelligence, you shut down your thinking. When you when you work on that and you work on um, you work on shifting yourself into this uh communication that only your spirit can interpret and see there's a oneness that you become a part of. And in that oneness, all information is the same to you. Whether you see information about the what we call the physical past or we see information about the spiritual future, it's uh or the physical future, it's all the same. If you also just say this to yourself, there's moments where you have to make a choice. And in that choice, you know the loving thing to do. There's some kind of choice that you'll get attracted to, and very often your thinking will talk you out of it. And so if you recognize love as a more divine way of making choices, that that choice is being influenced by this power of love, and love is a universal spiritual power, it's trying to guide you towards a future that's intended to bring you happiness. But a lot of times that is a way of seeing the future, also. Also, too, before you speak, if you use love as a source of wisdom, before the words come out of your mouth, you know the right way to speak, how to deliver your words, how to say them, make sure it doesn't violate somebody's free will. You'll know that if I do it this way, there's a better way of my relationship working out, or whoever I'm talking to will enjoy our conversation more. That's also a way of seeing the future. You can determine that this is a better outcome that's about to take place. But if we yell or scream or we get critical of people or we violate their free will, you can also see that the outcome of that choice isn't going to work out. There'll be a lack of harmony. So there's different ways of seeing the future. He was actually predicting because he was in spirit form, he could see all things past, present, and also future. And anybody who's in spirit can see the same, can do the same exact thing. It's it's part of how they exist, it's part of what's available to you. Because there's a state of oneness.
SPEAKER_08Um frequently we are talking about my mother, who was a love of his life, and you know, he did everything together. Um he tells me to care to take care of my mother, and he only speaks in French to me. He never speaks in English. French is his mother tongue, it was my first tongue. Um and it's always possible that I may have to take care of your mother. But when she was uh seriously ill a few years ago and her blood pressure crashed, she wasn't well. He told me that night that I stayed with her that her room was not ready. And so I took that as a truth to be, because my father was a true man, and I relaxed in my vigil with her. And the next morning, uh, when my mom awoke and she was feeling much better, her blood pressure had kept going up throughout the night. Um, we got talking, and she'd asked me to pray with her, and then she said to me, Dad came in my dream last night, told me my room's not ready.
SPEAKER_04Coolest thing.
SPEAKER_08And I I I'm just like, oh my god. So I shared with my mother that he told me the same thing, and she said, Well, then it's true, it's not ready. So um, and now what he's been telling me this year is that her room is is ready, but she's not. So that's why I was asking the question to past beings, because you said your grandson, as being the spirit before he came on earth, knew the future. Then I believe now that past beings also see our future. Yes. Would that be a correct assumption?
SPEAKER_04Yes. And also, Randy, you can see the future because you're a spirit. As long as you as long as you practice shifting yourself into that communication and the process is quieting your thinking and waiting for a state of peace to come over you, that's the switch. That inner that inner experience of peace is the switch. And then when you go deeper into a state of quietness and a state of stillness, at some point you'll become aware of your father and spirit. There's an awareness. That's a gift only your spirit has. You'll become spiritually aware. It's almost like a handshake. When you can say, I can sense or I can see, or you might use the words even feel, I can feel his presence. That's the handshake. When you received that information from him, he was telling you about the future. And he was also telling you what he's going to tell his wife and your mom. He communicated that to her. That's mediumship. You did mediumship. Yes. You talked to a person in spirit. That's medium. That's all I ever did. It's stuff that our brain doesn't tell us we do all the time. Your brain will never tell you, Rhonda, you just did mediumship. You talked to someone in spirit and you validated it. You proved it to be true, that information. And you did it through your mom. That's that's just showing you you're your spirit and you were talking to your father. You validated it. And so he also said, now I'm going to go talk to my wife. And that's mediumship that she picked up. Sometimes it occurs during a dream. And why it occurs in your dreams and when you're sleeping is because your brain is shut down. But you can do it awake, too. It's just something, it's who we are. So go you.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, he's been talking to me since the second day after his death.
SPEAKER_04Yes. And when you talk to him, does he seem like he's in pain to you, or does it seem like he's happy?
SPEAKER_08Oh, he's happy. The picture I have of him is when he's in his like late 30s, and he is he's actually fishing on a lake on the canoe that I used to go fishing with him.
SPEAKER_04Yes. He's showing you a story about how he's living on the other side, and he's just telling you the truth. Like it's beautiful over here. He's at peace and he's doing the things that he enjoyed in life. And at a pace that he enjoys. Yes. That's happiness. Yes. So there people miss the fact that they're trying to tell you how they're living when they show you that's a vision that you had. There's a difference between mental illusions and spiritual visions. Your visions will tell you a story that is rooted to love. In a loving way, he was telling you a story about how he's currently living in life. It's the coolest.
SPEAKER_08My mother was his fishing and hunting partner. Yes. And they're a ladder 30 years together. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that validation.
SPEAKER_04Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER_09I appreciate that validation for Rondi also, Rich. So thank you for that. Because I'm sure those that are with us here tonight, there's not one of you that haven't been in mediumship. But sometimes we just as human beings, unfortunately, need to be validated on that. You know? So it's a great story, Randy. Thank you so much for sharing. You know, as Randy was speaking, I was also thinking about Myron and his his his wonderful dream from last night. That's a part of mediumship that he's do he's in at that time. It's his uncle, right? Myron, it's your uncle at the time.
SPEAKER_05It was my father who rich told me I should get a motorcycle at some point in my life. The freedom, the joy, being in nature will help me a lot.
SPEAKER_04And you know, Myron, if I'm going to use the word freedom. So that's what the motorcycle would represent to me now. Like I would interpret it a little bit differently than I have in the past because I've grown, I've become more educated about how to interpret um the stories that they're sharing with me. And so if there was a point in your life where you felt like you had less freedom or there was uh an imbalance going inside of you where you needed more personal time, that would make sense on what he was telling me.
SPEAKER_05And it has happened. So that was, I believe it was right after his death in 2011, in the autumn of 2011. And he passed away in March, but I went to see you. It was sometime September, October, November in 2011. And um, ever since then, the urge to get a motorcycle, whether it's him speaking to me and I'm not realizing it, or me on my own, just wanting an escape, wanting something else, just for a half hour or an hour to enjoy a bicycle ride along the Delaware River. That that's what that represents to me anymore.
SPEAKER_04Yes, 100%.
SPEAKER_09Anybody else with a question or a story they'd like to share? Yes, Julie, we'll just get you down mute. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02I when Randy was speaking um and saying that she was asked talking to her father about um is the room ready yet? And he he said, No, it's the room's ready, but he she um your mother isn't ready. That made me chuckle. Um but um Rich, when I was asking you earlier about my brother-in-law, uh, and today I've been talking to my sister who's passed, and she passed a while a while back from cancer, and I was asking her because I speak to her frequently, some and some she's she was very, very, very funny. And I speak to her often, and sometimes when I'm driving in the car, I'll be having a chat. People will think I'm on the phone, but I'm actually talking to my sister who's sitting there with me.
SPEAKER_04That's great.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, all the times, and people will think if they actually knew they would think I'm a lunatic, but we know that we're not. We I'm speaking to her and I'm having a valid chat, and um anyway, I actually spoke to her big and the and one of the reasons I was so very upset is because I'd already spoken to her and had a chat about what I thought the outcome would be, and I know the outcome isn't going to be very good, and so when I spoke to you, Rich, and asked what your thoughts were, and you validated what I already had the thoughts of what Lily was saying that we like to be validated as so very true because I like to we all like validation because I don't know some, you don't know if that's true or not. Yes, I I'm very intuitive, but you can't I don't know if that's true or not. I had my thoughts, I reaffirmed them with my sister Jackie, and then it was nice to get that validation for from you. It wasn't good news, but but I I expected that. I'm not I again I won't share it with my sister about her husband, but I want to be prepared so I can help her. So um, and and it is nice to be able to chat with spirits up there so that they can help you navigate the the challenge that we're going through. So um thank you for sharing your story. It was fantastic, and thank you, Rondi. And thank you, Myron. Thank you, Lily.
SPEAKER_09Thank you, Julie. You know, I want to add here, um at this level, our listeners and ourselves are practicing mediumship. We don't even aware of it half the time, and we do have a tendency to say good news or bad news. But the more you practice your mediumship, you realize that it's all good news, that death doesn't exist, that consciousness continues on. It the bad news, if you want to call it bad news, is the pain that we are left with from the one that's leaving. But the one that's leaving is a celebration, yes, you know. Um, so yeah, sometimes it's just about rewiring our language in celebration.
SPEAKER_02I'm glad you corrected me on that because I'm actually not afraid of death myself. Yes, at all, because it's we're going on to something better. I got caught up and said the word that we're familiar with, right? And um so actually they're not my sister and her husband aren't afraid of it either, but we get caught up in the words that we're used to using. Um, but I'm so glad you corrected me on that, Lily. Thank you.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, sorry, honey. And it wasn't really a correction, it was just sort of, you know, like an observation of um, as Rich would say, what is universal truth? You know, it's a universal truth. We know that there's no death, just death of the body.
SPEAKER_02And um I'm just glad you did. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_09Oh, you're welcome. Thank you. Who else? Nancy. Sorry. Okay.
SPEAKER_10Okay, Sylvie.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, no, no, I'll let Nancy go and then I'll go.
SPEAKER_10I know just I'm really just an observer today. Um, I've been introduced to this and I'm observing, but I I don't have any thoughts right now about it. Okay. So we're oh no, I'm enjoying it. I love it.
SPEAKER_09We're glad you're here. Thank you for joining us. Sylvie, okay.
SPEAKER_07Hi, I have a totally different um uh roadmap, I suppose, like if some so for me, um I had my first my first daughter, and uh and then I had my tubes tied. Then I married my second husband and um felt that it was time to have another child. So I had my tubes untied, and back in those days it was a whole ordeal, uh, so it's a big thing. And so I had it done, and then the doctors at that point said it's a 50-50 chance if you get pregnant. So I took that chance and had the surgery, went back home, and um this is a little private, but uh so the moment that my husband and I had intimate relationships, relations, uh, I knew I knew that moment that my son was conceived. I knew without any doubt that I was pregnant. And I always had a very close relationship with my son. Uh and now he's 34. Uh, and I'm finding that I'm losing that connection. So do you know, am I supposed to reconnect? Like, is that meant to be that way? I I feel the loss.
SPEAKER_09I'm not quite sure. Maybe uh excuse me, Rich can answer this because I'm not sure what it is you're referring to, what the loss is the reconnection from spirit or your son.
SPEAKER_07Well, I'm feeling like there was a deep, deep connection, and sort of that connection is sort of evaporating for lack of a better word.
SPEAKER_09With your son? Yes. Okay. You know what I do quite a bit? I've done, especially when my child was when Melanie was alive. I used to have my higher power at night talk to her higher power. The soul talking to the soul. And sometimes with our strain, we had a str a strain relationship, again, for those of you that know me. And uh I just would give it that in almost like an instruction, and I never thought or worried about it again because I knew. At some deeper level, there was a connection. Even if my ego couldn't feel it some days on a physical level, there was something else that was so sacred and whole and holy. Do you want to add to that, Rich?
SPEAKER_04Just a little bit. Um but Sylvia, what I something I've learned is love is a universal power. I think everybody would agree on it, right? Actually unconditional love. It's a spiritual influence. So it can actually influence us on a deeper level to side and align with certain kind of choices over others. And what I've learned is that love is the only power capable of creating more harmony between people. And so one of the things I had to learn and change about myself is to make sure I was doing my part in a partnership with my daughter or my wife, I do not, I was never given the power to change them. What I was given the power to do is to change myself, to make myself more attractive to other people who are more spiritually grown. So if you are someone who's spiritually unlearned, you're not spiritually grown, for instance, those people you're going to find are going to be more aligned with money, a nicer home, more a larger professional status, more social acceptance, wanting to be liked by other people and willing to bend themselves or compromise themselves in order to achieve that. The more spiritually learns people are going to be more aligned with choices that are aligned with love. And choices, that means choices that are going to bring a greater unity between people, a greater harmony between people, and put money and power secondary. So when I was trying to change myself and doing my part, I noticed there were still other people that had to do their part. So if they weren't interested, if they were going on to something different than what I was aligned with, there's nothing I could do about it. So I'm not saying that's true about your son. But what I can tell you is this is he has a spirit. And the more spiritually beautiful we make ourselves, the more his spirit is going to be attracted to us and gravitate towards wanting to speak to us more. The more our choices create these more happier and positive outcomes, and we see greater success in our life from our choices, we're showing a wisdom. And when we show a wisdom in life and our life is progressing, other people gravitate towards that and they have more opportunities, they are drawn to ask us more often about what we're doing in life, how are we growing ourselves? They're inquisitive. So that would be something that I would want, I would suggest that maybe you just kind of like sink into for a second. You are never given the power to change other people. That's God's responsibility. That's a higher power's responsibility. That higher power that created us all in a spiritually equal way said, I'm not giving you the power to change one another. Only I have that power. So stop pretending you have that power. So in order to align myself with properly with love, the first thing I learned to do is not violate somebody's free will. I would I stopped telling people what to do, I stopped being controlling in life, I stopped um pushing myself to give them answers before they asked me for the answers themselves or before they asked me for help. There was little, there was a bunch of tweaks I did to myself. And when I did that, I found myself more attractive to my daughter. My wife was more attracted to being in the same room with me or having more conversations. So just something to consider.
SPEAKER_07Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, makes sense. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Outstanding, outstanding.
SPEAKER_09Thank you, Rich. And Sylvia, I'm I hope you don't mind. I'm gonna add something here. Some because Sylvie and I walk and we're pretty good friends. And I'm wondering, you know, the saying, a daughter is a daughter for the rest of her life, a son is a son until he finds his first wife. I'm wondering if some of that is happening. You know, I your son is getting married soon, and you're feeling that disconnection. I mean, the love is always gonna be there, but I didn't have boys, I only had girls. And so I I I can't relate to that, you know. But I'm wondering if that's some of what is happening. It's the grieving that, oh my god, my baby's gonna have another wife, another woman in his life, you know. It might, it may be that, but it's something to think about. We'll talk about when we walk again. Thank you, Lil. Thank you. You're welcome. Anybody else have a question or want to add anything with what people have been saying? And James, I want to welcome you for the first time. We're really happy to have you here tonight. And Rhondi, honey, I'll get right back to you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_08You're welcome. Thank you for being here. Yes, Rhonda, you had your hand up. I just want to add, Sylvie, I am the mother of two sons. And let me tell you, it's very different. My sister has two daughters and a son, and it's different. And remember that there can only be one important woman in a man's life. That doesn't mean that you are second at all, it just means that he has to honor this woman first. Okay, because it can't be two. And the minute I started to honor that aspect with my son, it changed how I saw him and the changes in our relationship. And I honored the fact that he was honoring his wife just the way I wanted my husband to honor me as well. And I love my mother-in-law, but you know what? I was glad to be number one in my husband's life. Put it into perspective. It's not that he doesn't love you anymore.
SPEAKER_07Okay. No, thank you, Randy. I appreciate that. And truly, I am blessed. Uh his future wife is a sweetheart, and she's very inclusive of me and very respectful. So, yes. Yeah, it's just a different mindset. It's just there was a deeper connection previously, but right. So thank you for that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I believe. You can call me anytime. I just might do that.
SPEAKER_09Thank you. Sorry, but Julie, before I go to you, Randi, thank you so much for that. And again, the validation for Sylvie. And Sylvie, I really am grateful that you brought this up because I'm sure that there are listeners that will be listening to this podcast that can relate to this at such a level. So thank you. Julie, you had your hand up.
SPEAKER_02I was merely gonna say I've got two of each. My eldest is a boy of 28. I thought you were describing him. He doesn't even have a partner. And yes, he was like my perfect, my IVF baby. So you know, brilliant, glued to me. I don't know what he does with his life now at all. So I I think you're not unusual. He will always love you, but your job is to bring him up to love someone else, like Rondy said. So you've done a marvelous job, it sounds like.
SPEAKER_03So you've done it perfectly.
SPEAKER_02Thank you.
SPEAKER_09Anybody else have thoughts about what we're talking about? Experiences. Pat, is your hand going up there? Yes. Just to get you to unmute. You're muted again. I love my accident there. Let me see if I can unmute you.
SPEAKER_11Am I okay now?
SPEAKER_09Yes.
SPEAKER_11I'm okay?
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SPEAKER_11I have two sons. And um I have had more of a connection, I think, with my younger son. I can tell you specifically a uh instance. We were all sitting around the dinner table, and all of a sudden this song came into my head and it was very, very loud and very, very disturbing. So I basically put down my knife and fork and I said, Who is thinking of this song right now? Because you are annoying me. Everybody just kind of sat there. I said, Come on, come on. So my son Stephen said, It's me. I said, Would you please stop it? So he said, Okay. Picked up my knife and fork and it happened again. So uh I know exactly some people you you are in sync with. And uh there have been times with him that that has happened. But now that he is married and has his own family, um as has been said, he's living his own life. I'm very, very blessed that they are all doing very, very well. Uh they're leading their own lives. And uh, you know, I'm I'm not jealous. Sometimes I feel a little bit, you know, I've seen them once since I got back from Florida, and I don't know when I'm gonna see them. Again, the youngest grandson is turning 15 tomorrow, and I'm I don't know when I'm gonna see him. So, you know, it's mail the card and send the the uh interact amount of money to them. But uh so I know I know what you mean, and I don't think you should feel bad about that because there will be times like I I know for instance when my first grandson was born, um, and I got to be the first one to go in into the room after the baby was born. And my my daughter-in-law suffers from white coat syndrome, and she was not doing very well at all. So I just uh walked up to her and I I put my hand on her arm and sent a calming message to her, and she looked at me and she said, Thank you. So things do happen and we don't always know when they're gonna happen, and it can be a pleasure to everyone. So I just want to share that with you.
SPEAKER_09Thank you, Pat. You know, I I'm feeling that there's gonna be people that are listening to this are gonna say, so how did this topic go there? However, this is mediumship. And Joe, I see you just sent me a text, but I want to talk to you before you go, hon. Um, this is a part of mediumship, like what Sylvie is doing is feeling that distance coming. I mean, this is reading other people, and we're not aware. We think mediumship is just talking to spirit. Yes, that's a big part of it, but being able to read the soul and spirit of another individual is a part of our mediumship, you know. It's it's uh again, as Rich would say, it's a universal truth. So, those that are listening, that's why this part of the conversation has come in because we are the ones as moms and then the dads, those souls choose us before they come in. Again, that's mediumship, they're coming through us. So, Joe, I know you have to leave early.
SPEAKER_06I let everybody in, don't beat me up. I let everybody in that said, so I was good.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, okay. But Joe, you know what I'm wondering before you go? You you have such wonderful stories about your wife and again the your own mediumship. Is there anything you'd like to share before you do go this evening?
SPEAKER_06I can share one quick story. Um five years ago, I got I bought an iPad, and I was supposed to replace the one I did. I had, and I never got around to replace it just because I wanted to teach and I used a regular laptop. And so it's kind of been bugging me that my one daughter-in-law needed the iPad for the kids. And I just never got around to do it with everything that was going on. So um we were we were away for vacation last week, and I decided to the Wednesday before to go to Best Buy to kill the iPad to delete it, and myself get a new one. I had to give the kids new on it. And I had it in my um my schedule that it was gonna be a Best Buy from 140 to 240. So when I got home again, there was another um text on cell that's still alive. That was my cell number that we don't know how it gets there. And the timestamp was 240. It's the time that I was supposed to end up at Best Buy doing what I should have done probably a couple years ago. So I thought that was the messenger meetings if I were to look at it. That's it. It's about time to get off the ass and do it. I saw that you did it. So I thought that was a cool story. You know, I and it was stamped, I mean, all time to get it. It was stamped 240, which was in my phone, my ending time. I was there later than that, but that was what was in there. So I thought that was a cool story that's just where I'm watching.
SPEAKER_09It absolutely is, Joe. And that's why I I I asked you because I love when you share with me your stories, especially how Sharon comes in through the phone. I mean, you have more than one, and I just think it's so beautiful.
SPEAKER_06There's about 18 of them now, really. It's crazy. It's insane.
SPEAKER_09And what and what you're teaching your granddaughter also, you know, we discussed this in one other episode. I mean, how you're teaching your granddaughter to attune to that medium ship is brilliant. I mean, we're here to serve humanity, and how what a there's no better way than passing this knowledge down to our grandchildren.
SPEAKER_06I show that one, the the one that I favor. We shouldn't be saying that, but the one I favor I show her all the time and tell her that's how, and again, Rich's guidance to tell her that's how I come through the home. So the same thing with you. So no, it's all cool. It's all cool.
SPEAKER_09You're you're the one that's cool, Joel. You're the one that's cool.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, Sharon's the one that's cool for coming through, so that's good.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's here all the time with you, isn't she? Beautiful.
SPEAKER_06Yep, gorgeous.
SPEAKER_09Thank you. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_06Go at the heat now. Okay, you guys have a good rest of the day. Okay, my love.
SPEAKER_09Thank you so much for joining us, and thanks for letting people in the door.
SPEAKER_06No problem. I let everybody in.
SPEAKER_09You did. Great job. Love you.
SPEAKER_06See you then. Take care, Rich.
SPEAKER_04Take care, my friend.
SPEAKER_09Thank you for introducing us, Rich, to Joe. Just a wonderful human being. Randi, you have your hand up.
SPEAKER_08Yes. Um, Rich. So I have a question to follow on what's going on with you and Miles. Now that he's born, and you're able to hold him and talk to him and cuddle him, is he still whispering in your ear, or are you having conversations that are just as meaningful as what they were prior?
SPEAKER_04It's a great question. And the answer is the answer is no. The communication stopped. The the presence, when either I see his face or he I'm holding him, his presence is that of an old friend. Like he and I have known each other for a long time. Just like if you met someone and you said, I know we just met, but I feel like that we are brothers and sisters from a previous lifetime. Like, there's a there's a synchronicity, there's a there's a unity there. On a spiritual level, that's what I sensed when I first picked him up. Like you and I, you and I have a connection that I can sense right now in this moment, but I I don't talk to him the way I used to. And I'm not quite sure why. There's something there. And it could be because he's in a physical body now where he's got a thinking brain, you know, you know his brain is still forming, but there's something there. It reminds me of this. There's been a lot of children documented who talked about a past life, and they've given details going, I used to be this person, here's my brother's name, here's my sister's name, this is where I mean, details that were documented and later proven of kids that were four, five, six, seven, eight. At some point, it starts to go away. Like their if their brain, as it gets older, starts to take over and have an influence on what they spiritually know is true. And so it could be something like that. Since he's been in this physical body, the communication that on a spiritual level, maybe he needs to get a little bit older for me to start to communicate with him again. It's the first time I've done this, so I'll keep you I'll keep you updated. But yeah, that's something I've experienced so far. Yeah. I my my sense, my awareness of his spirit is a strong one. Like him and I are are very, very close, but I don't get I don't get the messages or the conversation the way I did prior to him being born.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. It will it will be interesting going forward that um you will know when she's pregnant again.
SPEAKER_09Yes, yes, as well, if that happens. That's a good point. But I want to answer also, Randy, if I can. Um, Rich, as they get older, it does change. Because Tatiana, as you know, still at 15 years of age, calls me Fairy Lily. I mean, there's nothing as beautiful. Fairy Lily, why? But you know, when we're together and people have commented on it, sometimes we look at each other for the longest time, just right into each other's eyes. And it's the moment it doesn't even matter if the room is is full, there's just her and I, and we are communicating at some other level that there's no name for it, and this I have five grandchildren, as you know, and I love them all. And some of you that will hear my talk next week, um talking about my identity as a mother and the decision I had to make because I'm a grandmother, so you know how much I love them. But Tatiana, when we hug, there's no word to explain what that energy is. You're gonna experience that as he gets older. Uh, you know, I I don't have it with the other children, I love them all equally, but that soul connection that her and I have yeah, that's special. And you're gonna I hope that you experience that with Miles. Yeah, you just sit there and staring at each other and you're talking to one another. You know, it doesn't matter. We've been she was about three. I'd say she was about three. Well, I mean, we spent a lot of time with her, and I hope you're able to spend a lot of time with Miles. But she was about three when that uh that that connection came back from when she was born, before she was born. Sorry.
SPEAKER_04You know, Lily, it's interesting. Um, with Michelle, right? The woman that I'm married to, um, she's grown in spirit a lot, right, through the years. And probably and like listening to me all the time, but um on her own, she's grown in a lot. Over the past year, you know what we've noticed is her ability to be inspired is occurring more often, and the information she's getting inspired with is happening to me at the same time. So we'll turn to each other and we'll go to speak, and we're speaking about the same exact thing. That's happening more often now. And so it shows you that the oneness that I refer to that there's a A lot of times it's based on the needs of our spirit, the information we receive. You know, not the wants of our thinking, not our mental wants, but the needs of our spirit in order to grow, to evolve, to become more enlightened, to see how we're all created equal. And as she grows, that part of her, as she evolves, the information that we need to know isn't just coming to me, it's now coming to her. But it's not something that's coming to her. She's picking up on it because she's growing spiritually. So we're all picking up, we're both picking up on this channel of information that's flowing outwardly. And if one of you guys, because you're spiritually grown, was with us, you would get the same information. And then that's it's all synchronized together and we're speaking it at the same time. It's really cool watching, you know, learning this process, you know, self-discovering this process of how to evolve ourselves, and that it's we're pot, it's we're capable of it all. And we're just we're just so spiritually unlearned about ourselves, we're not taught about it. But you know, seeing the evidence of it all is really cool. James, what do you have to offer? James has got something to offer.
SPEAKER_09Beautifully said, Rich. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01No, I was just um listening to the conversation and um in agreement with what you were saying. So what do you agree and what do you not agree with? Um, well, I guess I've sort of been uh becoming more aware uh when people who I knew in life are are around me, people who have passed. I'm I'm sort of able to identify what you might call a spiritual fingerprint or so or so. Um yeah, so I can recognize when my aunt's around or when the family members around. And um yeah, it's just something I'm growing into and learning to just sort of relax and and listen to it and trust it a bit more.
SPEAKER_04So and uh are are you are you picking up on any conversations? Are you having a conversation or you're just picking up on their presence?
SPEAKER_01Well, I'll give an example. I had my friend Juan was visiting, and um, I'd lived in Mexico as an exchange student, and what you do on Mother's Day is you go out and serenade all the mothers, and one of the songs you sing is called Las Mañinitas. At any rate, on Juan's birthday in the morning, I wake up and I can hear a voice telling me I need to go downstairs and sing this song to Juan. And I'm thinking, that's not a birthday song because it was Juan's birthday that morning. I'm thinking that's it's a totally different song. It doesn't really fit for the occasion. And then so I was reluctant to come down singing this song at full volume. At any rate, I came down humming the melody, and Juan instantaneously said, That's my song. That's the song we play on my birthday. That's the first thing Larry would do was put this song on, play it as loud as he could, and we would dance around singing Los Manuitas. And I was thinking, well, that's what I was told to do. I was supposed to come down and sing it in your face, but I was a little reluctant because, you know, I didn't want to look like a crazy person singing a Mother's Day song to you on your birthday. So there's an example.
SPEAKER_04You know, can I just can I elaborate a little bit? Sure. Not that you're not aware of this, but this is for all people. What what you just said, James, is that you talked about the two different communications. So the first one was based on a sincere need. And that sincere need is based on love. And so to sing a specific song, you just got out of a sleep, so your brain was quieted down. So on a spiritual level, you were your spirit shifted more to the forefront and was picking up on someone who had crossed over who was saying, Can you do this? As you woke up, your physical intelligence started doubting the first communication. It tried to talk you out of it. What you did is showed faith. You had a choice to make, to show faith in the first one or the second one. You chose the first one. When you did, you got to see the outcome, which was a loving outcome. It was accurate, it was telling you the truth. The other voice, your thinking, was lying to you and trying to talk you out of this great experience that was destined for you. The reason why I'm bringing it up is because this is something we all go through. We have a choice to make in those moments. So don't let your physical brain, because its job, it was created to cast a doubt on what you first know to be true. And if you listen to it, you prevent yourself from all those beautiful moments that are trying to occur in your life.
SPEAKER_01Make sense? It's a great insight. And to be quite frank, it was a five-minute back and forth. You know, I'm being told, look it up on YouTube, get it right, come down loud. And I'm thinking, I don't know, I'm not really that guy. I'm sort of a shy person and still getting to know my friend, and I don't want to come down singing this, you know. So, at any rate, that's exactly applicable. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Outstanding, outstanding, James. Great. Thank you so much for sharing that story. That was that was insightful. That was great.
SPEAKER_09It was very insightful, James. And what I would like to add, if I may, is that there was you just gave everybody that's listening and to us the key to mediumship. You said two words. Relax and trust. And that's the key. So thank you, oh brilliant one. I'm so happy you're here tonight. Anybody else, Juan? Is it Juan? Yes. Nice to meet you.
SPEAKER_00Yes, nice to meet you as well. Thank you for having me. Um, I I wanted to speak up because I'm I'm the friend Juan that James is talking about. So um I I wanted to maybe add to the story. Um my partner, my husband of 20 years, Larry, um, had passed away in the middle of last year. And it was our tradition. He it was a tradition for him to play that song for me on um on my birthday in the morning, and he would actually blast it on YouTube um just the first thing in the morning. Just he was very proud. It was something that my my mom did for me as a kid. He knew that, so he wanted to carry on that tradition um when we got together. And so I found um this experience interesting because I was actually in the living room, in James' living room, um, when I was visiting um him, um, and I was actually playing the song on my phone on my YouTube app because I was still trying to, in some way, uphold the tradition that I had with my sweet liberty that had passed away the year before. And so it was just interesting that in that same moment, James came down the stairs, and then that's when everything unfolded. And it was kind of a it was an interesting um experience in us kind of sharing our respective stories, and I kind of filled them in on more of the details behind it, and um, it felt us we felt more connected with each other and also with uh obviously Larry and our loved ones um who were orchestrating this um situation, which um it it was obviously we took it with a lot of love and it was very special. So I just wanted to add to to what James shared because um I wanted to give my side of of the story as well, just because it all kind of interconnects um beautifully.
SPEAKER_04It's so cool, Lily, that you know, when James and Juan's here and here's James, who's spiritually grown, Larry, who's in spirit, is taking a moment when his brain is quiet to communicate with him and say, in a nutshell, if you interpret it right, is saying, Can you do this for me? And that's mediumship, like Lily was saying. You're actually talking to someone in spirit who's guiding you to do a loving gesture that he's been doing for years to Juan, and he's using you. And by you showing faith in that, you're able to fulfill something that Larry's telling you to do because physically he can't do it. But he's trying to show Juan that I'm alive, and even though you might not be picking up on me, I'm still going to communicate something that James is trying to fight not to do, but I'm winning over because of the power of love, and you showed faith in it, and I can still wish you a happy birthday the way I did when I was physically here. It's the coolest thing when you understand and you interpret it all correctly. It's the coolest thing. That's why I share with people don't miss out on this amazing life because we're so unlearned about ourselves. Take an opportunity to take these experiences and properly interpret them and make sure you align yourself with showing faith in any kind of choice that's aligned with a loving gesture. That's the key. Yeah, great story, you guys. Write a book about that. That's great. I love that.
SPEAKER_09Yes, and can you imagine being a fly in the wall in that house at that morning? You know, that the feel, that love, that presence would have been incredible. Thank you for sharing, is right, Rich. So we're going to close soon, but we still have time for those that haven't had a chance to share. Patricia, I don't want to put you on the spot, but you're more than welcome. Um, if you have anything you'd like to share. And Constance, my love, is there anything you'd like to add? You're on mute. No, you're you're okay. Any any other feelings coming up? You know what? I almost stepped out of alignment and said any more thoughts coming up. I always say to people, if I say I think, I'm making a if I say I feel, then I know it's coming from the place of love. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So there's a there's a there's a small story maybe for the future, we'll talk about a little bit more. But um, when I was first starting all of this, it I had a point where like I didn't understand any of it. So I had to show faith. And very often you're surrounded by people that are skeptical, and not because they're intentionally trying to be skeptical, just that's what we're taught. We're taught to use our thinking. And like James, you said, like you're just realizing that your thinking was created to challenge you in life, so that you can make the right choice, and you have to prove it that I'm aligning with a sincere gesture of love, and you can't talk me out of that. And so when I was earlier on in years, my daughter was very young, say she was seven or eight, and Michelle's father had passed away, and it was getting near her uh her birthday, and I was communicating with him, or I thought I was communicating with him, because I was just learning all of this and I was showing faith in it all. And he said to my daughter, what do you want for your birthday? And what what shockingly said, I want a I want a um a pocket watch, but I don't want any pocket watch, I want an antique pocket watch. Michelle and I never heard her talk about a pocket watch. She never drew one, she never spoke about it, she never pointed to one, but she said I want, and we were like, oh my god. And immediately he said, Here's where I want you to do, Rich. And he told me a specific location. He told me a specific store, and this look in this store I've never been to, I didn't even know it existed. I didn't even know if the location had this store. He said it was a jewelry store, it was gonna be four stores in from a corner. On the corner was gonna be an abandoned building. There's gonna be a jewelry store four stores away. Inside of there, here's what a guy's gonna look like. They're going to have only three pocket watches, one's going to be silver, and it's going to be this much money. And I want you to buy it for her, and I want you to give it to her from me as a gift. Anyway, there's a great story behind the whole thing, how it all turned out to be true. It was the coolest thing. Anyway, my point is this what James did, and what we all have these opportunities to do in life, is to recognize when these opportunities come our way that they hold some kind of spiritual understanding and meaning to enlighten us, that there's this communication that we're a part of that's based on love that's meant to make us more aware that there's a higher quality of life waiting for us. So, yeah, but in the future, maybe we'll talk about that story, go in detail.
SPEAKER_09For sure. Thank you so much, Rich. You know, as we come to the end of our evening together, I want to leave you, our listeners, and those of you that are with us tonight, with one thought. Both Rich and I would like for you to think about this. If tonight has taught us anything, perhaps is this that the soul is far greater than we can ever fully understand. Whether you believe Rich's experience happened exactly as he shared it, my experience, or whether it simply opens a door to wonderment, the invitation is the thing. So, listeners, friends, stay curious, stay open, and above all, stay connected to your own inner knowing. We don't have, we don't have to have all the answers. Sometimes the greatest gift is learning, learning to live with the question. You know, we don't ever ask a question unless the answer is inside. We just have to listen. So thank you, Rich, for your courage in sharing something so personal with us. And thank you to each and every one of you for bringing your hearts, your questions, and the presence to this sacred circle. You are what makes this evening so meaningful. So until we meet again, remember we'll meet next month. I'll send out the date. And also remember, especially when it comes to mediumship, to be aware. Never be afraid.