My Life, My Transition. MLK Fought for me too!

In this episode we tap in with someone who is proud of living her life her way! She is inspiring and a light. She breaks down her road to Transitioning. It’s a must watch show! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:51

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SPEAKER_01 1:05

Lee girlfriend round away with a whole lot of shit to say. It's your girl, K D.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

It's your hostess with the mic. It's Kiki.

SPEAKER_07 1:16

What up, though? You know who it is. Your boy coach D T M AKA Pure Motivation. I am Mr. Energy. Everybody love me. I'll have one enemy. Our podcast is here now, so you gotta respect it. You never get off on us because we've never the exit. If you know me, then you know that I'm more than a savage who loves living life and is allergic to average. So we're in conclusion, so it's no confusion. If you see somebody really than us, it's an illusion. So welcome to yet another episode of Relationship Reality Podcast, where you get your daily dose of relationships and reality. Talk about it, all right. So as you guys know, you know, we we love to uh connect with great, amazing, like-minded people, you know, that's out here doing their thing as well. So we brought you a few people already, you know, on the show, but today today today is a special day. Today we bring listen, listen, always talk about we are hot on the show, yes, and hot means humble, open, and transpired. Talk about that's what we do, all right. So we brought Mrs. Hot herself. No, for real. No, for real, no, for real, Mrs. Hot herself on the show today. Talk about it, introduce yourself to the people.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Hello, people. It is your girl, Miss Mouthie, the one and only the lips of Detroit. Okay, better known to some as Raquel. I'm so grateful to be here with you guys today.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

I'm a I'm a uh I'm a mouth.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

You a lips?

SPEAKER_01 2:59

I mean, I'm a lip. All right, yeah, yeah, because at the beginning of her podcast, she'll be like, Hello to my lips. That's me. You'll be talking, hey, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

My people are lips, they they know what it is, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_07 3:10

Okay, so now the the realists get to meet the lips, and now what's what's the name of the podcast so they know up front?

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Yeah, so it is the Miss Mouthy Podcast. This is my unmuted season. I think this is the season where I'm not afraid to say whatever and talk about whatever, where in the beginning of this shit you kind of like tiptoe and you don't want to offend nobody. But now I'm like fuck it. Yep. And then I got one with my husband called the Moutys, where we talk about love and relationships as well. And so you know we love tuning in to the advice that y'all give us when we be having our moments. So talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Yeah, that's you. You said this season is unmuted as a yeah, as opposed to the other five seasons they were muted.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

I feel like I was I was finding my way only when I got triggered. Like when somebody would do something to me, I would add my personal experience and then pop my shit. But overall, I wanted to produce like very uplifting, positive content. But sometimes, you know, people piss you off.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

I do think, I do think because I actually binge watched, like okay, I started with one episode, and before I knew it, I was like, Oh shit, ain't no more. I don't watch them all, but I I just say that to say I don't feel like any season was muted. Okay, I feel like you very you don't have to wonder. Okay, I'm gonna say great and transparent. Thank you. Hell yeah. I said, Well, yeah, well, damn, tell us tell us what happened in. Yeah, that makes me feel good to receive that. Oh, yeah, it's amazing. You guys, I listened to yours as well as the one with your husband. You guys are absolutely amazing. I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

She put me on it. I was like, Oh, I'm stuck. I sent this.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

I'll be like, You like podcasts? Listen to this podcast. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

Oh, I'm watching.

SPEAKER_07 4:44

I love that though, and that's what it's all about, man. It's about good, it's about sharing great news and great podcasts, and just great people in this space, man. I think we need that, yeah. Just as what we're doing, just content creators and things like that. So we definitely need to support each other the way we're doing here. Um, for y'all follow suit, man.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

I'm gonna just by go out.

SPEAKER_07 5:07

Great content, man. Great content, and you know, and listen, I'ma just say it now before we get started. What like, share, and subscribe.

SPEAKER_04 5:19

You got this on the one. What you about to do?

SPEAKER_07 5:22

So I this this episode I think is gonna be super amazing. We're gonna definitely try to get to one of these fan questions, but one of these realist questions, I should say. But we wanna kind of dig into Miss Mounty, aka Raquel, the rock. We want to kind of dig in a little bit more, you know, so so the people can understand who she is and what's going on in life, you know what I mean? Because I feel like it'll be powerful just to hear her story too. So give us a little backstory, okay, if you will.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Absolutely. So I would say I've been podcasting for the past six years, rooted, born native in Detroit. One of the biggest things that brought me to creating was advocacy. And so I did a lot of advocacy of work around trans people in Detroit. So for y'all listeners who may not know that, that is part of one of the letters in the LGBTQ community. And it's the trans, the T, which oftentimes get left off, but we started the movement. And so that's anybody who was born in one body, whether male or female, and somewhere along their journey, they transitioned and decided to be the opposite. And so for myself, being born male and then transitioning into a female brought me into the advocacy of discrimination, transphobia, homophobia. So you go through all these different journeys around discovering yourself, which made me have to create a platform because I was like, girls like me don't get to tell our stories. We oftentimes are being falling into all these stereotypes and all these things against us, but we never get to say how amazing. I know bitches that's doctors, parents, like amazing women, but because of our fear of people not understanding us, we stay in the shadows and we don't talk about it. So I was like, nah, not this, not this go round.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

So yeah, I just want to say, like, when I first met you and your husband, I didn't know you guys were trans.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Yeah at all.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

So when I first listened to the podcast and you all said like the TNT marriage, yeah, I said, What the fuck is that? Yeah, yeah, you're not right. Never heard of it. So as I'm listening, I'm like, oh, which made me love you even more because like you even more solid. And then to get on this microphone and talk about your truth because that's a lot in a way that says, I love me. Yes, I don't give a fuck what you think about us. We love, we are who we are. I love that, and then even like to speak to your husband, like he's been in the service, yes, like he is like he just is amazing. And I was like, I never would have known. That's dope.

SPEAKER_07 7:54

So when you say TNT, yeah, break that down a little more for those who don't may not, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Yeah, so a T for T relationship is a relationship that's comprised of two trans people that could be two trans women, two trans men, or a trans man and a trans woman. And so me and my husband just happen to fall in what we call the binary spectrum, which is a man and a woman being into a marriage together. And so that journey is beautiful because you see somebody else who knows your struggle, right? That will be no different. I'll give y'all one that people can relate to. When you're a black person, and when a man finds a black man finds his black wife and both of them know about the struggle of poverty, they can relate more, right? And so that's pretty much what me and my husband have in common.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 8:42

Yeah. All right. And then so as someone who was transitioning, when when was the time that you said, This is what I want to do? This is who I am. This is who I feel like I suppose. That's a good question.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

I think one one thing that happens that people don't often ask is like how early gender comes into play with you. So I remember being like five years old and being like, wait a minute, I'm different, right? People kept questioning me, like, why you walk like that? Why you talk like that? But I'm like not understanding what the real question they're trying to answer. Then when you're little, you don't see mirrors, so you don't really know. You only have this ideal of what you exist like in your head. But everything that little girls my age was doing, I wanted to do, but everybody was telling me, like, no, you're not supposed to do that. So what the fuck am I supposed to do? Um, I found myself shrinking myself at such an early age because I'm like, this is I don't want to get reprimanded every time I do what feels innate. So then what ended up happening was when you develop language, like when you get out in the world and you start seeing reflections of yourself. Whether I remember the first thing that I was like, why am I resonating with this? was Jerry Springer and Maury started having like this, these episodes of like, is it a man or not? And I was like, I remember that. I was like, oh bitch, oh, it's people out here that live like that. What does that mean? But as a kid, you just brush past. Yeah, it wasn't until after I graduated high school and I was like, I don't know why I have this instant desire to be something more. And so I remember my cousin actually giving me some of her old clothes. And baby, when I put on them little jeans and them little boots, it was over. It felt right normal for to you. Yeah, and then I knew I would get like a lot of criticism around like what people would think of me, but I never gave a fuck. Like, I think being a younger self and knowing I was different helped me build that confidence to know how to just push past people's opinions. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Okay, did you did you date in high school?

SPEAKER_00 10:47

Oh, rarely a little bit. Like I would use like what we like to call in our community blankets, yeah. Yeah, that too. Blankets, beard, something to cover up who you know to be yourself in inside, and what would honestly happen was every one of my girlfriends then were people who end up being lesbians or trans as we got older. So it was like we kind of not knowing, but knowing we we were like, oh, it's something about you that I can love in this moment, but we don't have to take it to header to normal behavior. So yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:20

Is there somebody who's in the community that you may have saw before that you kind of look up to and like, I kind of like how they're doing?

SPEAKER_00 11:31

I think so. Yeah, okay, yeah, absolutely. Before I knew my truth, there were a lot of young ladies that were doing shows at this club that was called Ingy Windows when I was younger.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

I remember that. Yeah. Still open, right? Yep, still open, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:46

But a young lady named April Summers was like an icon to the community, and she taught me so much about myself and being poised and like, but I wasn't ready to come to truth, and she knew that. And then I had another young lady on the other end of it, uh, God rest her soul, she passed last year. She told me, like, you're gonna be a girl. And I was so offended, like, bitch, no, I'm not. You can't tell me who I am. But had had I appreciated her embrace and like coming to truth about like yeah, like what do you mean? Like, give me more, I probably would have received it. So it that was an unnecessary year of running away from myself just to prove her wrong.

SPEAKER_07 12:27

Yeah. Do you wish you would have started the transition sooner?

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Absolutely, absolutely. I think, especially looking at the youth now, it's so much bravery and what they're doing and seeing their like family support them and them having a really sure sense of who they are. But I think I would have saved my family and me so much resistance if they really would have just sat down to try and understand me. Like a lot of times in my childhood, I felt like nobody cared. Like nobody, like, I used to just not say nothing because and they would forget like Christmas, it was one Christmas, everybody got a gift, and nobody got me shit because I'm so quiet, right?

SPEAKER_02 13:12

And they felt so bad, like, oh my god, how do you forgot about you?

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Yeah, like home alone.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

I'm like, God damn, you're like, hey, I'm I'm here, yeah, I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Yeah, so you know, but what I did appreciate when my mom came to terms to understanding me, even though she was like ignorant of some terms and things because her own knowledge, uh, her acceptance was full. Yeah, that's what I like.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

I like that. When the I know, like especially our parents are so much older, right? So they don't have the yeah, it just don't click in their head like it's okay for change. I think the younger kids are more open and available to do things because as parents, we're more accepting of things, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't care who you with as long as you're happy, as long as you're not being abused or mistreated. You know what I'm saying? I don't give, I don't give two shits, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I know our older, even now, older people are like, what the hell? You you let your son play with baby dolls? Like, yeah, because my I heard a lot of that for sure but you want to you want these boys to be good parents, you want these boys to be good partners, yeah, but you don't want them to learn how to cook, learn how to clean, or hold a baby. Absolutely, but that's how they gonna know how to be a good dad, you know what I mean? So I don't know, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:27

Yeah, I think one thing I noticed too, and y'all tell me y'all saying the same thing, it's really black people that don't want to accept 100. I agree, 100% people to where, okay. So let me ask you this because I know I've heard this on numerous occasions about other stuff. How often did you hear prior to your transition? Oh, it's just a phase.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Yeah, a lot, right? And because people will project their own ideas of you on you, and and that is just something that I never rocked with. Or take it a step further. They people in my family would try and set me up to see if I would fall for this imaginary bait, right? So, but what they did not know about transness is that while you're thinking it's about to be somebody who isn't reflection of me, like a hyper feminine boy, it's your homeboy that you sell weed with, right? Oh my god that you like, wait, why you keep talking to my little cousin like that? Or, you know, it's just like regardless of what you think it is, it's never gonna be really what it is until you have a one-on-one conversation with with someone and know their story. So when my cousin started being like, Hold on, why you keep hanging with all these niggas? I'm like, they hanging with me. I'm like, talk about it, they hanging with me.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

They want to be on my team, okay? Okay, okay, and then so being trans is different from sexuality, right? Yes, so even though you're you you are a woman, it doesn't necessarily mean that you want to be with other women or other men, or you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Like so, so gender identity and sexuality is completely different, okay. Um because you can be a trans person and still like the same sex, or you could like the opposite sex, or even step further, we've been learning as our community is growing that you can have no sexual desire to another human being at all, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:23

That's the asexual people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Okay, and you could be someone who only likes people of intellect. So there's so many different ways around people can show their sexual expression, but in the black community, what we fall victim to is telling somebody, like, oh, if you gay or you lesbian when they so young, they have these children haven't even had sex, so we're pushing something onto them that their minds can't even conceptualize because they're not sexually active, like put them in a box, yeah. It's like you can say they're feminine or you're masculine, yeah, but you can't identify their who they're gonna have sex with, right? Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

I follow a young man on social media, so he is a seahorse dad.

SPEAKER_04 17:06

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

So he's a trans, he's a trans man, yeah, who has two daughters, yeah. So he prefers to be with men. So people like social media is people are so fucking mean, bro. I'll just say that. They are but they like they comment, yes, but their comments are if you want to be with a man anyway, why why you want to be a man if you want to be with a man? Yeah, and he often tries to explain like it it's not about who I want to fuck, yeah, it's about who I am. Yeah, I'm a man, yeah. And I gave my husband two daughters because we wanted children, yeah. So it's like, you know, I just I do think people I think it's ignorance though, yeah. Because we don't because I didn't know, yeah, but because I like research and watching videos and documentaries, that's how I learned because I've always been an ally. Even when I was younger, I got a cousin that was gay, and they used to, my brothers and them used to beat them up. Like, I used to be like, no, we finna jump them, right? Right. Because no, we're gonna beat the fag out of them and stuff like that. Like, bro, no, he likes boys, he likes boys, leave him alone.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

I do feel like we were not educated enough when we were younger, too. That's true, right? Yeah, because in high school, middle school, like people frowned upon like gay, yeah, like the people didn't even come out. We knew people were gay in high school, right? Yeah, like we knew it, yeah, but they would not come out because they're like, no, everybody's gonna judge me. It's a safety.

SPEAKER_07 18:29

Some people don't want that. Yeah, they don't want that fight either.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

And they don't want to be in danger, like she said, like safety.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

It takes a strong person to be able to stand in front of other people and let them ridicule them, right? You know nothing of me, but you got so many opinions of me. I didn't come out until high school because the ones that was in my high school, I would see them getting chased and bullied by the football team. Bitch, cool. I don't have no problem with fighting, but I also don't want to get my ass being put on a stretcher, so you gotta just weigh like, How far are you willing to go?

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Yeah, and you don't want to be sexually assaulted. I feel like baby. I know when I was in high school, a girl came out, she was a lesbian, and the boys was like, Oh, that's because you ain't never had this dick before. Yeah, and then she had gone to I'm I swear and she had she had gone to a party, she had gone to a party and she was sexually assaulted by numerous guys, like they like locked her in the room, and like you know what I'm saying, and she never I don't even know where she is to this day, but she got a deal with suicide because of that, right? That's what suicide rate went up because of that because they can't be themselves, they lost, they stuck in this body that they don't understand, and then they are being told that how you what you feel is wrong, yeah, and then they like, well, I don't even want to be here, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

And to speak to your point, a lot of that is corrective sexual rape, right? Like that is this idea that I can make you straight, or straight is better, or if I do this, somehow you'll become you'll like it, but that's harm, that's abuse. You can't make somebody like what they don't like.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

You have to come to terms and accept that this is what this person's presence is, you know and it's or not, or say fuck you, yeah or not, or to me it seems like I would like it less. You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't want it, and then you forced it on me. Yeah, correct. So I don't know. This not now I really hate it. You know what I'm saying? Like yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

It's the corrective behavior. You're trying to correct somebody's life, their attraction, and you can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

That's crazy, yeah. Because there's nothing wrong with liking what you like. I don't eat meat. That don't mean that a motherfucker doesn't make me eat the steak, which I'm not trying to downplay the situation, but I'm just saying if you don't like it, you don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

And so many variations to sexuality, too, because we also, on the other end, when you become an outproud person of the community, then these people who fetishize you and they they now can identify with your queerness and say, oh, well, she a lesbian, she he gay, so I can be undercover in my approach to them, but you're not living in your authentic truth, and it's not our responsibility to bring you out the closet. Like, I just get to decide if I want to fuck you or not. But don't make the assumption that because I'm this way, I want you. Automatically not, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I'm not automatically attracted to you because I like, you know what I'm saying? Have you ever experienced like like a what's it called? Like a fetish?

SPEAKER_07 21:17

Like that was my I was about to go there.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Like a let's go there.

SPEAKER_07 21:20

I was about to go there with that next.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Okay. Absolutely. I think trans people are unproportionately exposed to that behavior because of the misunderstanding of how we exist, right? And there's so many different versions of trans people. You have trans people who are on hormones, people who are not, people who uh are post op that had all their surgeries, and people who don't want surgeries at all. But I think the now thing is that from the time we decided to be trans, it's this hyper fixation on us and our sexual uh preferences and our genitalia that makes people be like, oh, this is cool. It's a trend. And then they fetised the ideal of transness. This is why we see so many white trans people detransition because to be a raw person and be under a microscope, especially in this climate, you have to genuinely know that this is what you want. This is who you are, not for monetary gain, political power, or anything other such.

SPEAKER_07 22:20

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

That's wow.

SPEAKER_07 22:23

Once you are post-op, do you still have to use the tea?

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Not as much. Like it depends on what gender you are. But sometimes, like if you say if I go post op and I want all of these things, I might naturally have to take estrogen, but I don't have to take the tea blockers no more because the testosterone in my body levels would have uh mellowed out. And so that's also when people get into this idea that only trans people take hormones, it's a misconception because older women, cis-generate women, yeah, take hormones for after they have that, what is it, pre-menopause, post-menopausal stage in life. So that that access to hormone care for every woman is necessary, you know.

unknown 23:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 23:07

Have you ever dealt with like somebody you meeting somebody they not know in the beginning? And then once you let them know, they start to act differently.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Yeah, that was like in my early years, because I think as a trans person, you have to figure out how to navigate that detail of information and also like safety. Because everybody, regardless of whether they know or not, is not going to be receptive to that because it's not even you, it's how society is making people believe should they accept you or not. So one of my early on boyfriends, the funny thing is, I thought he knew. We went to St. Andrews, me and my homegirl, we partying. You said, Y'all know, I'm gonna take you back. We was in St. Andrews because I never used to want to go to the club. I'm like, no, girl, and it's in the church, absolutely not. They already telling me I'm going to hell.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

You're like, no, I'm going to double hell. God damn it.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

So I went, um, we dancing, we vibing, and she like, you should dance. He wants to dance with you. I'm like, no, girl, he don't know T, we not doing none of that. So long story short, we exchanged numbers. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna tell him when we exchange numbers. My rule of thumb back in my 20s was as long as we're not getting sexual, then I disclose, right? And so as we text him through things, I'm just telling him, like, hey, uh, I'm a different type of girl. I thought that was hint enough. The voice. I was like, maybe he's gonna clock it with the voice. Well back then, I looked nothing like how I looked then. So I was like, I was so up on the floor, man. You can't clock it. Um, but to be said, that was my own insecurity around my transness. You can't assume somebody else the way they perceive you, right? So he was getting ready to go off to summer camp and or summer college, and so he was playing for a basketball team. And so he was like, babe, I've been at this camp. I'm hella horny. Can you just send me a picture of your pussy? And I'm like, What pussy? What pussy am I about to send you? So I'm laughing, like, babe, what is what pussy? I didn't tell you anything. So he like, yo, pussy, stop playing with me. And I'm like, no, I'm serious. Dead ass told you everything was like, so you thought he knew something about it.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

But you wasn't picking it up.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

He did not, and lo and behold, he did meet his wife that same summer after like the weirdness have happened, and then he hit me maybe like 10 years later and was like, I always thought about like what would have come of us had you been born a certain type of way. And I was just like, Well, no need to wonder. Whenever there's no pussy in there, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever you're not sure, what you needed, I didn't have it. That is okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Fresh off. So have you ever been with someone who like they wanted to be intimate, but yet they like and I I think you spoke about this on your on your pod. Yeah, when they're when you were like, they like do something with it. Like, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yeah, so you know, a lot of I don't even want to say DL, but a lot of hyper masculine men that wants the experience of like whatever. I'll just say men, because niggas is freaky. Say it, yeah. No, they say it's and say it. And what I had to learn was it was never about me, it was about you, and so but what I was grown to believe was that I had to do myself and pleasure to make you happy. And women, we get that all the time. We are not supposed to be these sexual things, we can't be happy of our bodies, but when they would want me to just have my body, I'm like, okay, I'm no longer getting off of just giving you oral and just letting you do whatever to me, and I'm not being fully pleased. Yep. Then I realized like when something clicked and I just liberated myself that like if you cannot take all of me, you cannot have any of me. And I think if women start to people start thinking like that, we wouldn't be fucking half the people we fucking enjoy. Yeah, that is truth.

SPEAKER_07 27:05

Okay, how long did that take to come to fruition in your mind?

SPEAKER_00 27:10

I would say like middle to late 20s. So I give anybody a good six years. Like, if you out here fucking these niggas and giving so much of yourself and you think you want love, you might just want a warm body. You gotta start asking yourself these hard questions. Because I feel like for me, I was giving guys the most sacred part of myself. If I give you this good, yeah, you're gonna give me all of you, despite what somebody may say. And you can love me behind doors, closed doors, but when it came time, you never were ready. And that was your journey. So I would say people have to start looking at the investment of like, how could you give somebody yourself your essence and not hold them accountable to loving you wholly? I've never been ashamed of my any man that was on DL, bum, homeless, you know, that's my nigga. Homosexual. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? That's my man. Women are like that though.

SPEAKER_07 28:06

Yeah, women are like that. It's it's the men that are more superficial to where the men be like, I want the arm candy. It's the women that's like, no, I want the the Baywatch type dude with the six packs and all that. But for the most part, you got the the the notorious BIGs out here getting women, yeah, the uh Rick Ross is out here getting women. It's no it's no way in the world they should have them all. Yeah, but they got one, you know what I'm saying? Several, but you know, so it's I I think it's it's a thing where men just gotta have the arm candy and it's like uh you know I agree with you. We we fear how we're looked at for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

I don't know what the reason is, but what they don't know is like subsequently you are making these young girls feel bad about themselves and that they're not enough because who you fucking on or the embarrassment of or not wanting your homeboy to know because it don't just happen to trans girls. I'm like, I used to tell them girls when they come call me about their baby daddy, he don't know how to treat neither one of us right. It ain't about the question, isn't it? About what I got between my legs, it's about why he's beating your ass and trying to kill me. Like the deeper questions we're not asking. He don't know how to love no woman, you know what I mean? That's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:17

Yeah, and then you spoke on your husband. How long, how long you guys been married?

SPEAKER_00 29:22

You know what? We only been married a little over a year.

SPEAKER_07 29:25

Yeah, we known each other a year, married. I figured that yeah, she told me already too, but I just want to ask for clarification for this.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

But the way y'all vibe, it's I feel like y'all been wouldn't have been great. I feel like y'all have been together forever.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

No, for real. Yeah, when I first met him, we met at a healing and spiritual retreat um in Florida. Oh, my last boyfriend, which was my first love, took me down through there, fucked up my whole set. Uh no, not in a good way, just no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wanted to kill a girl, bow bow, bow. Um again, because the first time we hooked up, and then right, I was in Jamaica, mining my business. Oh come back, he hit the DMs. I'm like, he like, I want to hang out for my birthday. And I was like, Okay, cool. That's weird. First love, you know, you had this impression to say, Oh, if he comes back, we meant to be. Yeah, no, he's meant to finish you off, okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Especially if you met him in Jamaica, it's like this gotta be.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

No, I met him here, but I was in Jamaica. Oh, okay, okay. That's what it was. So you come back and you think, like, oh, this is our second chance, it's gonna work out. No, he just wanna know, is you dumb enough to let me back in? Yeah, so he tore up my whole house, all the things was going. He was gonna kill if I did not leave, he was gonna kill me. I know that unequivocally, yeah. And so I went to a spiritual healing retreat because I was like, I just gotta be off niggas. Like, I got to find myself and my peace in a way that like does not center none of them. And then I bumped into Grayson. That's sweet. Grayson was out here, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Nah, he's Grayson had some shit after he had a whole fiance at the crazy.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

He had a bitch on the crib, and so when he approached me, yeah. Yeah, straight bullshit. Now, mind you, I'm just like, You like I love him. No, absolutely no, you can't set boundaries, you can't even be my nigga.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Like you're saying, you ain't finna play my motherfucking, especially saying everything.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

You see what I'm saying? So I'm asking him questions out of like just casual conversation. Like, so if y'all been together this long and y'all not married, and then you over here with this bitch in your face, like, what is what's going on? You need a out. It's not even you don't know how to end that relationship, take some time for itself, and you like attention because this bitch is not even it. So uh, no, for real, she kept telling me, like, she like her, we got a problem. I'm like, we ain't got no problem. She came to you, is that that? Yeah, the girl that he was at the the girl at the retreat, not the girl at the criteria. Yeah, but she came along after we just want some smoke. Uh so I'm like, how do we got a problem? Like, I don't know you. Like, it will never have an issue over a nigga. Now, the issue could be is because I've been you before where you feel like the nigga you love is choosing someone else. I get that wholeheartedly, but you have to ask the right question. Is you fucking my nigga? Yeah, if I'm not fucking him, he's not mine. Damn. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, okay. So I was just letting the girl. I'm like, girl, you asked me if we got a problem one more time. We're gonna have a bad club come, bad girls club moment in the back seat of this car. And so the night we all went out, he came to my room and he was just like spilling out his heart to me. And I was like, You have never really talked openly, which most black men haven't been able to just express their feelings to their significant other. And I was like, Oh, this is different. This is I love vulnerability in any human being, right? Yeah, and I was like, This is something different, but you're gonna have to clean up all that shit. You got a lot to clean up, yeah. You know, I ain't jumping into no shit, but we went slow, we was diligent, and now we're sweet, and I do like like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

I to me, I know uh he's he said on the show that he done been on some bullshit before, yeah, on you all show, but his transparency in the moment and the way that he so openly honors you for healing the part of him that other women never even allowed him to feel, yeah. You know what I'm saying? For for a black man to be able to say, My woman loved me out of me, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like the heart, the the the worst parts of him you took and molded like like no, I love all of you. You don't gotta hide none of that. I love all of it. I love that, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:44

I was like, I just love it. Y'all give me chills.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

Most men don't do that, they don't because they don't have no safe space, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:52

I was about to say, are we creating the spaces for them to be fully authentic, fully open? We always say we want these truths, yeah. We want to you really need to know who you vested in, and it's not the part when he's taking you out on dinner or fucking your soul out, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the part that when he is snapping on you, when he's being unsure of himself, when he's not making the right decision, yeah, you gotta just be like, Oh, this is my person. Can I still deal with that?

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Yeah, yeah. And I like when when he was like, I think he said, like, he never been with nobody like you before.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

And you was just like, Cause I'm me. Yeah, and it and he did admit that at first it was hard because you're so like powerful and open and living in your truth, yeah. Where he was like, wait a minute, babe, we don't you like no, we do this, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:36

So explain to the people, I think we did breathe over it a little bit. I'm sorry. He I'm excited is trans true, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_07 34:46

Like he was born a female, a female, and he transitioned into a man. Okay, yeah. So with you guys doing that, what is what is what's one of the issues that you might have in your relationship that may not be in any other type of relationship?

SPEAKER_00 35:04

I think one of the biggest things is that in our relationship, he feels as if his manhood is threatened if I have an opinion, right? And maybe that's in most relationships, but and it's like I'm never going to make excuses for you mistreating me or not holding yourself in accountable that I know you kidding, right? But in this transness, there is so what I realize in this trans relationship is that trans men don't people can see us. It's easy for them to identify a trans woman and clock RT. But for trans men, it's like you gotta look a little harder. Once they get on that testosterone, it eats their ass the fuck up and you will never know. And it's safer for them to be in the shadows or live steaf. When you live steaf, that's when you don't want the world to know that you are even trans, right? Um, and so, but think of the violence that we know cisgender women face with sexual abuse. Trans men is still adjacent to that and they experience that at the same rate, but now it's heightened because of this fetalization that people have for black men, right? And so whether you have feminine lesbians looking at him, gay boys looking at him, cisgender men trying to emasculate him, or trans women trying to dominate him, that is the dynamic that I feel like brings a different nuance that I know I have to be very um not soft, but intentional about how I handle his his way of being.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

Yeah, like his yeah. So how many children do you guys have?

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Just one.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Just your so how do you all explain to her or do you just like you know what's funny?

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Because my daughter, she's 10 now, and she's from a previous relationship, and me and her father was in a T for T relationship. And she so she's always known transness, okay, but I think having a trans like trans people raising her don't make her look at queer people no different. Like she's been exposed, like I used to take her to conferences with me. One of the things I think she more so not protects me, but she checks in with me to be like, Did you okay with coming into this space? Do anybody say something to you? And I'm like, no, it's the other way around. Like, she's yeah, so thank you.

SPEAKER_04 37:29

Thank you like adorable.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

But I have to check her on just like the behaviors of a human being, no matter what, right? Like whether they're black, whether they're poor, fat, whatever, you don't get the right to make somebody feel lesia if you don't want to feel lestian. And so with that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

I was gonna ask that question. So, like, do you think she'll get like treated differently at school or made fun of, or like how would you yeah, as far as like having friends, having sleepovers, like things like that. So because you know, quote unquote, it's not normal, right? People don't understand it. Like how I think yeah, that will be a thing that she will face, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:07

Yeah, but one of the hardest things is being one of the black girls in an all-white school sometimes or being in a suburb. We have to deal with racial shit before we can even get to gender. For sure. But I I do think I notice when people want to impose their, but yeah, as a trans person, yeah, they're gonna always come for your kids first. Yeah, that's what I mean. There is something about the innocence of a kid, and I've experienced that, whether people know it or not. I was in a seven-year custody battle over my daughter with my ex, right? And so it's this thing about separation abuse that even when you don't, even when you're not with a person, yeah, they still want to cause you harm. And you know at the root of it, it's all rooted in transphobia. So the women that he rallies is either women who uh lost a child, want a child, or just don't like trans women. Okay, and so I have to work diligently to not expose my child to the hate that I get from just existing. Yeah, yeah. But I be for the shits, I'm an advocator.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

I know I know when I was when I was younger, because I'm biracial, and a lot of my friends, like parents, or really like the mom, I'm gonna be honest, it was the moms, wouldn't let their kids play with me because my mom was white. Yeah, so it's like, oh, she took that black man from us, you know. So that's why I was asking, like, because I didn't when I first the first time somebody didn't like me because my mom was white, I was so confused. Yeah, but it did cause me when I got older to not be so open about being biracial, right? Yeah, I just you see me with my daddy, you see me with my daddy. Yeah, if you don't ask, I don't tell type shit, which is crazy. Even when me and DTM first started dating, when we first started dating, I was living with my stepmother, who is a black woman, so I never I didn't tell him yeah that my my birth mother was white. I never told him. Oh, I I did eventually tell him, but we were together for a long time before I was comfortable telling him, yeah, because it's like I automatically became either like, oh, you the best of both worlds, like, oh, it's like fucking a black girl and a white girl. Like, wait, what? Yeah, like ew, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 40:08

But that's people ignorance about colorism, right? Um, they think because my daughter is lighter that she's been adopted or she's not my child, and they can't phantom their minds around like how was she born? Or like what I know is like my mom light as fuck, my grandma light as fuck. Yeah, like the way that blackness exists in so many different shades of like melanin is crazy, right? But society put these extra divisive things against us, and so the only thing as she grows older, I gotta let her navigate that for herself is that my love for you is always gonna be here, but I hope that my identity don't bring shame to you and like stop you from wanting to be great, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Yeah, it would when I was young, but now it's like yeah, people don't care, yeah. But when I was younger, it was like, man, I don't even see how my parents dated in the 70s, honestly. Yeah, which they did and they still together, but it's just like it was hard back. People are so like I think it was it was easier, it was hard back.

SPEAKER_07 41:08

It was hard, right? But I think it was easier because it was no social media back then, so like your scrutiny was coming from your it was so I feel like it was so much more racism back then though than it is. But you didn't go very many places though, like what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

Like, so once you home in your safety net, and that's that's it.

SPEAKER_07 41:27

Now today, if it went the same way today, well, in some cases it is, you still taking that same scrutiny when you just pick your phone up. You in the crib, really, yeah. So back then you had to go to the racism, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:40

You know what I'm saying? But you it was a way out of it by just going home. I just go home or going to your wherever your safe space is. You can go there and you know you're good. Yeah, but in today's society, there is no real safe space for a lot of people. That's true. Uh yeah, whether you in the community, whether you interracial, whether you you know, whatever the case may be, it's just no spot for that, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:04

And for our kids, right? Like, I think I'm never gonna let her go over the sleepover, period. And I'm never going to allow people, yeah. Her immediate family, like her cousin, just asked to sleepover. But I am meticulous in not letting people kids come over because I know what stereotype is posed on me. I'm never trying to make somebody kid or I don't even want the ramifications around that, right? Yeah, yeah. Kids can play outside all the day as long. They ain't gotta come to my house and you ain't gotta go to theirs. Yeah, because the people in which we know abuse these children don't look like me. Yeah, and until we wake up and see that and we start accepting these kids' truth to be that, it's never gonna be no protection around.

SPEAKER_07 42:48

Yeah, have you ever had a have you ever lost a like strong friendship because they didn't, you know, they were maybe trying to hide their true feelings or their convention.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

That happens all the time, and that used to hurt me so bad. One in particular, I had a friend, he was so near and dear to me, and I thought he was just like the coolest black boy ever. But it wasn't until, even though I always been who I am, it wasn't until I named it for him that it became a problem and an issue. And even with family, there were certain family members that I lost along the way. But I learned to just be like, if I know authentically, I'm a great person and I've been great to you in our friendship and relationships. Look, that's what we just need to learn. Why would I bother?

SPEAKER_02 43:37

We've been learning this.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

You have to let them lose you. Yeah, your value and your worth and investment into them is not for you to be questioned of your identity, right? Like you can't change that your mom is gonna be right. Like, I can't change my transness and I'm gonna not going to if you could pose a problem to me. And I've learned in my adulthood not everybody's meant to be. Around your energy. It's not. God does not for real. God will not remove without replenishing. So anything that He takes from you, He's going to give you tenfold.

SPEAKER_07 44:13

So I was going to ask that question next. Are you spiritual enough?

SPEAKER_00 44:17

Absolutely. Absolutely. The church don't fuck with me, but I fucked with God. So I don't need you to build no walls in order for me. Yeah, to have that connection to Him. Every time we so it's a funny thing. Every time we go to church, our church, uh they everybody stop what they're doing. And we in a mega church. Like it's a mega church. They stop what they're doing, they let us know. Nobody directly say it, but we know. Like when you exist as a other, you know how people go about it. Whether you're a black person in your white neighborhood, like you just know when that thing is thinking. He started talking that shit. So he tried to make you leave. I think he's trying to try to guilt them in the beginning. Yeah. And it make us uncomfortable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

And with G was like a lot. We seen that.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

G was like, okay, nah, three times it's a strike. You keep wanting to come back to this damn church. But I love the church. I love the word. I love because it's not about your humanness and unability to love me because your bias for me is about my connection and it's where I feel comfortable with God, right? But I just watch it online now. I go to YouTube Church in Atlanta. They better be lucky because I love their church. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

I I just told uh one of my son's friend mom, every time she sees me, she like, when you come to church. Yeah. I'm like, I'm not coming to church.

SPEAKER_04 45:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

And then she'd wait. Literally every single time I see her, I'm gonna see you tomorrow. I'm like, where we going? Yeah, we going to brunch? Yeah. She likes no at church. I said, Listen, that's the last time I seen her, I said, check this out, bro. Yeah, I don't fuck with church. I love God. Yeah, I'm like, I read the Bible, I watch sermons on TV, but I am not going into that building. It ain't for me.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

She was like, church harm is real.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

It is, and I I can't be nowhere where I don't, I don't like, I don't, and it's not even something that necessarily was done to me. I don't like nobody feeling like they shouldn't be who they are. Yeah, absolutely. Whatever that looked like for them.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

The fakeness of it.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

Because if we all created in his image, yeah, why why I can't be created in his image?

SPEAKER_02 46:26

Because they say come as you are, right?

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Yeah, as long as we be in a society where fake is the new real. That's that part we had a little stressful.

SPEAKER_07 46:36

We had an issue. Um, for those who don't know, I am probably one of the I'm gonna take the probably out. I'm the top officiant in Michigan. So if you get married, come holler at your boy. So when we first started, we used to we literally I guess I'm the only one not married. We literally over. We are literally, like I said, we're open and transparent, right? And we had a couple that came to us, and these may have been at least one of my, if not the favorite couple that I married, but they were lesbian.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

I knew that's what you were talking about.

SPEAKER_07 47:19

You're talking about the yeah, yeah, they were lesbians, but they were like two of the coolest people I think I've ever met. Yeah, yeah, you know, I counseled them and got them right, and everything was good to go. And I can remember pastors talking to me like, you finna you finna do what? Yeah, you finna do what?

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Even even the older gentlemen that were at the wedding were like, Oh, y'all not attached to no church, are y'all? I'm like, well, damn.

SPEAKER_07 47:45

My thing was when I started doing this, I pray often. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And and God told me, Listen, I created you in my image, right? What would I do? How would I look at my child?

SPEAKER_04 47:59

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 48:00

I'm telling you not to judge. Don't judge. It's not my job to judge. If it's wrong, it's wrong. If it's right, it's right. Yeah, I'm not gonna be the one to say it.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 48:08

Yeah, if you feel like if you're living in a peaceful spot, right? Who am I to say differently?

SPEAKER_00 48:14

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 48:15

You know what I mean? So I'm like, God said it's okay in my head, in my heart.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

Yeah, we're doing it. Yeah, you know, what I like to say, I oftentimes I call myself the silent assassin, right? Like y'all said, when people don't know, that gives opportunity for somebody not to judge you based upon their bias, but you come in and you fuck shit up. Yep, the human experience is based on that. We all want to be accepted, we all want to have safety. Yeah, like it is once we see these differences and we can still appreciate each other. Oh, now we got something. Because I ain't gotta know your story in order to know that you still need to be safe, right?

SPEAKER_07 48:49

Yeah, right. And that's my thing. I'm like, listen, I feel like for people who may not know God, right? Right, you wanna exemplify how he would be. Yeah, you want them to see him through you, yeah, and you don't have to say anything spiritual.

SPEAKER_05 49:03

Yeah, I hear you guys. Yeah, brought me to how you know what I mean. Yeah, it's gotta be who you are. Yeah, absolutely. Be authentic.

SPEAKER_07 49:09

So and that's what I think that's what what drew us to you, even the very first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you came in, you were breaking.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

Definitely love. I'm like from the beginning for sure. I'm like, I love like your energy, your vibe, everything is just so authentic. Like so it is, yeah, so real.

SPEAKER_07 49:27

A question that comes across, right? But uh it may not be asked often because it sounds like it could be offensive if the answer is no, right? Is has anybody ever asked you, hey, are you trans?

SPEAKER_00 49:42

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 49:44

Now, would you find that offensive if you wasn't?

SPEAKER_00 49:47

No, no, because I I recognize, right, if I had the privilege to be a cisgender woman and I was mistaken for a trans woman, one of the lot of trans bitches I see is very bad. Okay, they are beautiful, they are doing their thing, but we have to talk about so many different intersections that make people even think about that. So cisgender women come in so many different variations, and we have things like PO POS Yes, we have things where um people can't help their exotic features. You know what I mean? How tall you I got a cousin that's taller than me. You know, these things make people beautiful, and I think if we start accepting the difference between what we think masculine, masculine presenting women look like or feminine women look like and get away from the European beauty standard, we would appreciate black people more in their totality because oftentimes it's never the white people that are telling other people, are you trans? Yeah, like it is to demean and dehumanize black women, and we've had enough of that stuff. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_07 50:53

So I got a I got we got a not a homie, but somebody we used to work with who is also trans.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 51:01

And they felt really comfortable like coming out to me first, yeah, like letting me know everything, and then they came out to like everybody else at the job, right?

SPEAKER_02 51:12

Yeah, how did that make you feel?

SPEAKER_07 51:15

It made me feel good because I feel yeah, yeah, it made me feel like a common person. They trust you, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

They trust you, right?

SPEAKER_07 51:21

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

I do think she thought telling you was safe. Yeah, yeah, because even when I spoke to her, she was like, Yeah, your husband knew before anybody. Yeah, I said that's deep. I said no, no, we knew we were just waiting on you to tell you absolutely because what happened was for Halloween, she came dressed as a woman. I said, Ain't ain't no man put that shit on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 51:46

Yeah, everything the holy the matching purse. You had that already, yeah. You had that already.

SPEAKER_00 51:51

You were just waiting on the 31st to hit.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

But he he she did it to see the reaction, absolutely, but a lot of people did mistreat her after that, absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

So because what year was this?

SPEAKER_07 52:04

Was this two years ago, though, right? Six, six, seven.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

So that was still kind of like the murky, you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

Yeah, people wasn't really like no no, it was like 13, 13, 14.

SPEAKER_07 52:14

And for her before the transition, she had done so much right in different communities. This was the bodybuilder, yeah. She was a uh top bodybuilder, so in all kinds of magazines, marine corps, marine corps did didn't work like fine, fine, and then still fine as a woman, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:32

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Yeah, she did like presidential detail, everything like black ops, black ops, and that's why a lot of trans people choose to transition later in life because economically, so much of the shit that you could lose, you're you have to be very stable either mentally or financially in order to decide to transition because you're gonna lose so much, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 52:54

Just to know how how strongly you feel about who you really feel like you are, right? She goes overseas because nobody will do any work on her here because she cold every time she goes under. Yeah, so she goes overseas to take this risk. And I'm like, to know that you're you're impossibly cold, but you still like oh, I gotta have this done. That says a lot, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Yeah, yeah. Remember, she got the voice surgery, so she couldn't talk for like was it like three weeks or four weeks? Oh my gosh. Because she got her Adam's apple shade down, yeah. Oh, but she was so the way she stood in her truth, that's passion. And it's crazy because when she met her wife eons ago, her wife knew she was trans.

SPEAKER_04 53:40

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

So when they start having children, her wife thought she was gonna stop being trans.

SPEAKER_07 53:46

Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:47

And stop being who I am.

SPEAKER_07 53:49

I think I think the wife is looking at it like he he was just cross-dressing. Yeah, and that will stop. I don't because I think in her in the wife's head.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

So did the surgery did the surgeries come first or the surgery. No, came after. She didn't get the surgery until well after before. Okay, okay. She was already divorced and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:08

Yeah. So I think because at that time, she just looked at it as if that you just cross-dressing.

SPEAKER_00 54:13

Oh, because that's probably all they was doing at that time.

SPEAKER_07 54:15

Yeah, cross-dressing is it's probably something for the house, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

And people got to be honest in these relationships. What is your motive to love and me? Yeah, like you can't keep trying to push somebody non-negotiables, even though it benefits you. You have to know that if this person saying, I don't want kids, they don't want no motherfucking kids. If you don't want a marriage, if you don't believe in marriage, don't keep pushing this man about fucking marriage. He's not gonna marry you, or you're gonna be married miserably.

SPEAKER_01 54:44

Yeah, yeah. But I think too, he did. She said she wanted to wait until her children were adults, yeah, before she started transitioning. Because at the time when he was like a man, he was like a man's man.

SPEAKER_00 54:58

I'm sorry, I got a cruise says a humor, y'all. So I laugh at crazy shit. What happened? But this is this person black or white, right? I knew it. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, just go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

I just he does not wait until my kids are older, it's crazy because everybody is not afforded that privilege, you know. Life might take you out way people, which is why the wife was confused, yeah, right. That's why I'm like it's about communication because you say one thing, but you're not even living that, right?

SPEAKER_01 55:25

Right, yeah, and then he was like uh he was like a man's man, right? So he was like strong, like yeah, he was like the dad that all the kids have on, you know what I'm saying? So what happened was he ended up getting outed by uh what would we call this person? Somebody dirty always does. Like a bit, like I would say, like a bitter lover.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

They gotta be TMT.

SPEAKER_01 55:46

I would say like a bitter lover ended up um outing him. So they did like a whole press run. Yeah, so he lost so much, like he he had endorsements from like barbells and and protein shakes, and he lost everything. He lost, he literally lost every single endorsement he had, and then they were also because he was like Mr. Strong Michigan, yeah, like so many years in a row, they were trying to take that from him, yeah, because now he didn't he didn't fit the most. So when he got outed, he just started making his transition because then his kids knew, but his boy his boy said, Dad, we've been through that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

That's what I'm saying. It's about communication, communicate with your family.

SPEAKER_04 56:27

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

But his dad, listen, his dad said, Don't you come over here dressed like no bitch. Yeah, so he was afraid of parents, but his parents cut him off. Like, oh, you want to be a girl? I don't want we don't have daughters, we have sons.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

And so that the reason why I laugh is because racially, that's the difference. Black trans folks, we don't we already poor most of the time. Come on, you don't give a fuck about that. You have to be like, bitch, any bully come my way, my parents say shit. I gotta be mentally ready for anybody to try and dismantle me so I don't have that luxury to think about life 20 years from now, right? And we ain't got shit to lose. White people wait until they're already established from years of systematic privilege to then say, I think I can dip my toe in, and I like the way this feels. No, baby, it's either all or none because once you lose every fucking a black had she talked to a black trans woman before, she would have let her know, baby, you're about to lose everything, so you might as well get your offshore account, put your money, start getting it ready and start building up your portfolio for what it looked like to be a trans bodycaster. Yeah, you know, yep.

SPEAKER_07 57:34

Have you ever found issues like in your day-to-day like work life?

SPEAKER_00 57:39

Honestly, that's a good question. Yes and no. No, no, I would never know. Every job that I think about, I once I transitioned. I remember I was in the hood. I would used to work at Technicolor. Shout out to all my technical works at Technicolor. Yeah, because the money was the motivation, and I knew like, what they gonna say? Like, bitch, either we're gonna fight or we're not. Um but but I think as I transitioned, I had to learn there was a level of responsibility I had to show up professionally, like just in blackness, right? You have to be the best one in the room, you have to be educated. You can't give them any reason to dissect your professional profile. So I used to weaponize like knowing big words and being on time. And like, so even if, and in my transition, I'm uh I'm let you know, get your documents first, like make your documentation reflect, regardless if your transition has arrived to that point yet. So, what I knew was important was I need my ID to match what's gonna be on this check. So I took that route first, where everybody transition is a little different, but I knew money was the motivation and like y'all, but it's HR for a reason, right?

SPEAKER_02 58:52

Yeah, I just actually took a UAW class on like transgender because they are trying to, which I agree with, like the trans people at our job don't want they want to use the bathroom that they recognize that they recognize, but that they align with, yeah, align with, right? So people have a problem with that. They're like, no, that's a man, but no, they are saying they're a woman, so they want to use the women's bathroom. Yeah, so I took a class on it, and it was when I say it was eat it. I know spicy, it was a great debate because it's like some people agree with it, some people don't, but it's coming, right? So you can't, it's coming. Like I said, we don't need a separate bathroom, we're gonna use the bathroom that we recognize, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 59:34

I'm gonna use the bathroom that's available, yeah. Yeah, we just went to a restaurant a restaurant the other day and not available on Friday. No, for real. The men's restaurant, I mean the men's restroom was you know, out of commission. Yeah, so I waited and I was trying to wait for it to be back into the commission. KD came out. I said, Anybody else in there? She said, No, she said, You can't go in there. I said, Hold up one minute, yeah. Okay, I got to go. And I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

And on Friday, like it was it was a man's bathroom, then a man's bathroom. I don't even know what a woman's bathroom was.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:05

Oh, yeah, they put a man's sign over the women's bathroom, right? So both of them was men.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

What DTM opened the door, nobody was in there, and I wouldn't there use the rest of them, and then he just stood by the door, you know, just for safety. But yeah, that's I don't understand why. First of all, I we just come in here to pee. We're not in there, there's no bed in here, we're not spending the night like what you gotta pee, go pee. And I feel like it's safer for like a trans woman to use the woman's bathroom. Go before you identify as.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

How often did you letting your employees go clean them nasty ass bathrooms? I'd have been to both genders and they're just pissing everything everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

I wanna be one of those they clean ours every hour, and they still be a man.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:52

Women's bathrooms, and let's take it back to 1963, like when black people couldn't use the bathroom and it was separated. Like, stop letting fascism let you separate trans people from your blackness. No, you're still a nigga, and they're trying to push back all the rights of anybody who is different than white supremacists.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:09

So Malcolm Martin Luther King of transitions, of trendies, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:17

Say it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:20

That's funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

But I love it. I love when people can be they self though, and like you know what I'm saying? I love that. Taking these classes, I'm like, oh, I'm learning so much.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:28

Like, yeah, I mean, I could tell you I can see the issue from a different standpoint though. Like, even it's hard to say because even if like you are a lesbian, then you'll still kind of be looking in the back, like, what's going on? But I don't think nobody but we go in stalls though. Like that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

It's not like you just oh, nobody just stays watching you piss, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:50

Nobody sees like the actual way that y'all go. Yeah, you just see that you're in the bathroom. Like, we know that when you go to the bathroom, you're taking pics, you're in there for a minute. Dudes ain't taking pics. Now, the the thing that the dudes might have to worry about is being at the urinal and somebody asking you how's the hanging over there.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

Because y'all have pictures, yeah, yeah. How's it hanging? That ain't what I see in bathrooms, though. My existence with men going to the bathroom, they be on some freaky shit. Do they? Yes, girl. Wait, wait, yes, girl be doing. That's why you love me. And X, they be. I done seen videos where nigga be put his legs underneath the star to let the next nigga know underneath there they can do some freaky thing. They have spots in bathroom. Let me not blow up their spot. Never mind. No, no, no. Let me go back to that state. What? Um, when it comes to people, the stars, if a bitch sitting next to me, I I gotta go a star over. We don't even be wanting to be that close in the bathroom. That's true, though. If you that personally invest, in in the bathroom shit, then you need to look at yourself and say, like, what am I sniffy? Like, am I somebody who likes sense and like bodily or no? We got bigger issues to you know, voting rights. Let's stay focused on what they're trying to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

Yeah, I think oh our old studio, the uh when it had the alien on the oh, yeah, it was like whatever you identify as just clean the seat off or something like that, or yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. I do feel like people get caught up with such minute shit, like absolutely but like you said, let's focus on voting rights. Let's focus on they're trying to bring Jim Crow back. Let's focus on that they're trying to get rid of all of our help, like it's more than one person.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

You're gonna need these trans people when the voting rights need to be accounted for in all blackness. If we want to get to a state where they accept us, you're gonna have to include them LGBTQ people that y'all keep acting like y'all don't know the letters.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

It's an A and I added now, ain't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

Yeah, that's why because it's too and the person says too many letters, yeah. So when you keep adding it, because they don't want to because they don't want to be put in the box, but we are what we are, don't we? It's gonna still be chill. Yeah, it's still.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:06

And let's talk about it. The people who benefit from them letters are getting paid for it, so they're gonna keep adding it. Okay, value to commercializing pride and all these different things. I've never seen someone give a fuck about you.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

First of all, pride be the biggest festival ever.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:25

So much power in the letters, right? Where the reason why people don't want to get it wrong is because they don't want to be on the other side of that cancer. So they just that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

You don't want to burn, but you don't want to love them or embrace them. But if you talk bad about them, you know, you know nobody's gonna listen to you. You gotta respect it, you gotta respect it.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:45

It's like Jewish people, it's like the Muslim, like certain communities that you just know you better not cross them.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:51

So you thought they were small, and so you said person, and then you got canceled.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

Yeah, prime example when Miss Pat was on the Breakfast Club and Jess Liria said, You were supposed to let me on your show. She said, Girl, you talked about the alphabet game, and D said they want you on there. Yeah, she was like, I did want you on there. She's supposed to have a whole that's a big following for sure. And cause she needs that mouth be, yeah, and she fucked herself up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:16

You just said back in the day. No, they ain't going for that no more. Write it down.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

You ain't gotta like everything about everybody, but you ain't gotta say it either.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

Exactly. Just because you don't understand it, don't mean it's wrong. So the problem is now that it's social media, right? Shit don't go away. Every you can say some shit back in the day. It wasn't cameras, it wasn't this, it wasn't name. Now you're saying that shit back. Now you say, Oh, they bring that shit back. Remember what you said in 2024? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:41

I do think though, the crazy thing is I believe they're trying to take it back to that, right? Yeah, yeah. So when you see things like, and I hate to bring it up and give it any kind of light, but I like the person, I just don't really care. I don't think the the product was that great, but the roast that just happened with Kevin Hart.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:59

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:00

I believe that that was a sign. I believe that was a sign to show, like, let's see if we can just say whatever. Like they used to back in the day. They went so far, they went to the water. They went extremely far, but they only went far with a certain community. That's true. They never they never tested the Jewish people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They never tested the LBG. They never tested, like, the one they knew who to go with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can talk about black. We can talk about the fact that your husband committed suicide a thousand times. We can talk about all types of crazy stuff, but they knew who to tap in on. I feel like that was just a test to see, like, okay, let's see how they respond to this. And I think that the crazy thing, I believe they got a great response from the people that they were looking at for a response. So we will definitely see more of that come down the coming down the line.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:57

I didn't like the roast at all. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:58

Yeah. I didn't need now the part that I did.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:01

No, but I already knew I know my audience. I fuck with Jeezy, but my pretty ass can go to a Jeezy concert. I know what's gonna happen, right? Yeah, yeah. But in comedy, I already know my people are the butt of the dog. So yeah, I'm not even for that. But that's when I be expecting my black folks to hold them people accountable to say like distasteful. It was distasteful. I was like, man, turn this shit off.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:25

The thing I was looking for was I'm always looking for like the silver line or or some kind of motivation out of it. And the thing that I did get was, and I don't even know if it's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:34

Let me hear you. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:35

But the fact that Kevin Hart and Kat Williams was beefing for so long. I did like that. Yeah, okay. They squashed that beef. Yeah, if it was just for TV, that's one thing, but it still calls for the seat on that. I can't remember. I can't fuck with it. No. But to see that, to show I'm with you. To show black people that we can still like forgive and let it go. I don't even know what that issue was about. I just took that from that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

Okay, and I hear that, right? However, comma, how much did y'all both get paid to squash this shit for entertainment?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:14

Netflix dead.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:15

You gotta start holding these people.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:17

He said he was only there for the check. You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:19

He left. He was only there for the check. But he left. He didn't say. And I want them, I want them checks to go back into Brown and I don't give a fuck what you do or what you say or how tasteless you are. But make sure you're using your power because it's a privilege, especially as a black person in this country, to be able to sit on a platform and make an ignorant ass joke like that. How dumb do you want to play? You want to play into white people's tropes, or do you want to make impact to your community?

SPEAKER_07 1:08:44

So and that's even with like like the the Draymond Greens who was on there, right? Who don't tell jokes, but he kind of and I kind of knew that this would have been. Now y'all make me want to watch it. Okay. So you can tell he was reading.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

Well, none of them wrote their own jokes. They all okay. So Netflix wrote all these jokes.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:06

That's even worse. Because it's like, so somebody somebody sat down and wrote that shit. That was his office down. Like he said, it might have been AI.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:12

But even the host, the host was like, he wrote his joke, but he just didn't memorize it. So he had it on telecom. But he said they told him when you're writing your joke, be as as racist and disrespectful as possible. That is crazy to be the case. And I'm like, for you to be able to verbalize that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

So many I probably taste for jokes. I probably watched 10 minutes. I didn't even make it to the George Floyd joke. I couldn't get that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

I came at the end, so you wouldn't have I couldn't get past what was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:39

Was it Cheryl Underwood? I couldn't get past the jokes about her husband killing himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:43

That was in the beginning, too.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:44

I was like, Yeah, Google's gonna be able to do it. I had to Google too.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

I had to Google it too, and it was true. But I told him, I said, we're gonna cut this off. He ended up watching it by itself because I said I this is disgusting to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:56

Well, they did say that they asked her first before they said, Yeah, but it's kind of just tasteful.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:01

Do y'all feel like we as a society have gotten to a point of we have to go so far in extreme for a wow factor? You know what I mean? Society has social media did it.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:11

Yeah, social media did that. Yes, you're going for more of a shock vibe, yeah. You are, you know, just just being tasty.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:18

Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah, I do. I do I think everything is like that though, because the thing is you're trying to outdo the person that you see on on the on the social media, right? Yeah, even prime prime send offs could be 100% perfect example. I just seen the prime send-off the other day that probably cost the waiting, the cost. I was gonna say, I would say at least 10 G's. At least, yes, like I'm talking about fresh flowers hanging from your than 10 for sure. Uh violinist when you're walking in, a bar. I'm listening, prime send-off is like two hours.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:49

Well, what about the guy that just got murdered from that prime send-off? Flashing that money, how they flash the money now. Oh, yeah, he got robbed at the gas station and killed.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:58

See what I'm saying? Like what? Yeah, my son prom send off is in his business always.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:04

We are in a point where duality has to be like it's insane. It it if it goes too far to the left, it's gonna be a problem too far to the right. We got to get back to that middle where we don't even let shit slide or let up like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

I really hope they get rid of like the Facebook, they not because it's so much money, but oh my god, you can't even live in the moment because you're so worried about posting, you know what I mean? So much and I I don't know, it's just a lot, and I just feel like our kids are being we raising our kids in a digital world. It's so much negative when I was younger. When I was younger, I remember people used to say money gonna disappear one day, and I'm like, How the fuck is money gonna disappear? Right? But how many of us got cash on us right now? Yeah, but we all got a debit card, yeah, right. So money is disappearing, yeah. Like times are changing. I don't know. Times are changing, shit is wild, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

They're not for the better, it's definitely for the worst, for the worst, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:55

All right, let me ask y'all this question real quick, man. How important is physical appearance in your relationship, right? And I'm gonna ask from the standpoint of you know how your partner looked when y'all first got together, as opposed to after having kids, or after having surgery, or after having something that, like, not just you being at the creative lazy doing nothing, something that happened, right? Or there'd be some health size, whatever the case may be. So it it changed your physical appearance. How important is that for you? Are you able to kind of turn a blinder to it and not even see it or pay it any attention, or do you think it plays a factor in your relationship day to day? And this is for everybody. Okay. You can talk, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:42

All right. Um, you know what, it it is important, but I think the good thing is about falling in love with his soul way before I thought about like the looks aspect. We didn't have that, was the first relationship. I never had sex before we decided on what we were gonna become. But I will say, like, I don't know, there's always gonna be a base of my shallowness where I'm going to have to like what you look like and other things. But if you get like cancer and like things like that, I'm gonna ride with you. And plus, I do like to hype my man up. Like, I want bitches to be drooling at the mouth over you because you're with me. You know, it just your love brings out the more attractive parts of each other. So, you know, I I have to tell them sometimes, baby, you gotta go get a haircut. I don't know what mood you in, but go get your hair cut, you know what I'd be do what you can do. Yeah, do the part you can do.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

I'm like, I have such an appointment for this. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:40

I agree with that though, because sometimes it'd be like, okay, you in this depressive mode and you this, you're not getting a haircut, you're not showering, you're not this, you're not that, and you like, hold on now.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:49

Yeah, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:49

I get we're going through this, but let me um I love you enough to say, babe, come on now. Let's get it together. Yeah, but you know what it made me think of Nene from Housewives when she dated her her husband or whatever, but when they were married or whatever, and he went through cancer, she said he was so mean to her. So she loved him, whatever they got divorced, they got remarried, this, that, they went through all the shit. But she said, I don't even know if I could deal with him being sickly because he's so mean to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:20

Like, how would you deal with it? I don't know, what the fuck? So I can deal with like a physical appearance, right? Like, I've never been like a physical person anyway. I got to be attracted to, of course, because that's what we got together. But I feel like if it was like emotionally draining, that would be a different thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:36

I think that I think what we can get over, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:39

Well, I can take care of you, like we can do, we can rock through this because that's what we got married for, right? Sickness, illness, that like we we took these vowels for a reason, right? But when you mean to me, I don't need you to I'm gonna need you to get this shit together because emotionally it's already draining taking care of you, but I gotta deal with you being mean to me too.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:59

Like what you said, baby.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

I don't think I can. And you fucked up, and you ugly, and I ain't getting no sex, goddamn. But how much you want me to take?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:09

They do say they do say I can deal with it though, right? The the type the level of love that you have makes you uh blind to the physical of what's going on. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:21

Yeah, go ahead. What you say, I think physical is is important in the beginning because I don't see myself just being with an ugly nigga. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:31

Somebody gotta attract you. They gotta attract you.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:34

Yeah, but after that, it's like I it's I feel like no matter what you do or look or whatever, I'm still gonna love you because I love you. Yeah, like you are my best friend, you know what I'm saying? So, like you your hair be long, your hair be short, your hair be whatever, you be small, you be big, whatever it is. Yeah, we in this thing together, you know what I'm saying? Because nobody's gonna love me like you love me. That part, you know what I'm saying? Nobody's gonna help me through this thing called life like you do. So I don't give a fuck how you live. But you know what? The crazy thing is you always gonna look good to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

That's what we don't all look the same together, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:11

How are you looking at all pictures of us like when I got with Linard?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:14

I was 19. You know what I'm saying? We were so young when we got with our partners, they're not gonna be 16 and 17. They're not gonna be, we're not gonna be the same size, we're not gonna be the same.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:23

You know what I'm saying? If your person got swag, like on them date nights, that's when it counts. That's when you remind them.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:32

Yeah, I'm a lucky motherfucker. Let me come down the stairs. I'll be like, God, yeah, let's go back upstairs for two minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:37

But I feel like long as you long as you try and though, right? You got that you can't just let yourself go, right? I done had two kids and I'm like trying to keep my shape together. You like fuck this shit. I just I'm just gonna be with a people. You know, you gotta you gotta try. Like, you can't just let yourself go though. Yeah, you know what's funny with uh now if you're sick, that's different.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:55

Yeah, well, our sign principle kind of sick.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:58

Like if you got cancer or something, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:00

Something that's preventing you from taking care of yourself, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:03

Or a medicine you need that make you gain a set of things.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:05

Yeah, like steroids or something like that. Yeah, we can't do it.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:08

Sometimes you can be sick. You sometimes you can be sick and blame it on the see that's what I'm saying, yeah. But you still have the ability to go and you know work out, just keep this even if you can't get that six pack that you so designed, you gotta try it, but you still gotta stay healthy even in your sickness, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:24

So, but I was saying, like the principal he said he had gained like a hundred and something pounds, and his wife was like, Hey, what what you doing, bruh? Yeah, and he was like, What you mean? And she like, I lost all my baby weight. You kept yours. They daughter like 12. Yeah, so he was like, That made him go get baby weight. That made him go get in the gym because he had got so comfortable, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they've been together for damn near 30 years. Yeah, he got comfortable in where you going? Yeah, yeah. She's like, I ain't going nowhere, but I ain't staying here either. Yeah, get your shit together.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:55

You, I feel like you also gotta have a partner that with you saying, Hey, I need you to get healthy or I need you to get it, they gotta be able to accept that too, and take it and not be like, Why you calling, why you why you no? I'm telling you, we need to get it together. That'd be the we though, right? We need it to be scaled. We need to get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

We need to go for a walk.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:12

Yeah, because guess what? We need you here. We got a whole family, we need you back for the baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:17

And it's like we already predisposed to high blood pressure, high cholesterol, high diabetes, cancer, they all that all the shit. They like, yeah, this is all the black people, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta be healthy for our kids, and we gotta we gotta love ourselves enough to want to be here, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:33

We need you here a little bit longer, so go ahead and get it together.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:35

But yeah, you're gonna always be fine to me, baby.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:37

Talk about it, talk about it. You let them know. Huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:40

What about you, D TM?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:41

You definitely I I feel like you are probably even more beautiful than when I first met you, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:50

That part.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:51

Because beauty, like I just we just said it a couple minutes ago. The more that you are in love with a person, the more you start seeing even more amazing attributes out of that person, right? From the physicals all the way through the inside. So you like, wait a minute. Okay, so like I literally see no flaw. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:12

So a little tink tink.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:15

First of all, she keeps her shit together, she don't even eat shit, number one, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:20

That's what uh start there. I got a homie that'd be like, What you cook yesterday? And I tell him what I cooked, like you know, I cooked the wife some salmon and then I made this uh deep fried, whatever. For the it be smelling good though, but he said, Man, you spoil your wife.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:32

I know she load that you stay so I don't even know if I if I can stay focused and function like with what you I can't kind of I like. Everything and that's hard. My mama, like, you don't find no chicken.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:43

I'm like, my mama is so hard. She's like, You don't eat chicken. What you eat? I'm like, bro, you live here, you don't know how to eat chicken.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:50

We've been in a struggle and the chicken together. We're gonna rock this out.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:54

My mom, like, what you have the salad? I'm like, damn, yeah, but you know what? You also gotta be careful, people shame you for change.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:02

No, that's the truth.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:03

You know, healthy change, though. So if they shame you for the channel, but I'm just saying that's that's how people think.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:07

Like, I get invited to a barbecue and they're like, Oh, we don't have nothing for you to eat unless you're gonna bring okay, and I will bring my own shit. I can bring my own fish, right? I don't get I'm not eating them hot dogs, I'm not eating anything. Right, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:19

So let me ask y'all, we get let me read this to y'all. We got a uh message from one of the realists right that says, Hey RRP, I'm sending this anonymously because I'm embarrassed and honestly hurt. Damn, I had three kids in five years. Okay, right. Uh my body changed. I gained weight, got stretch marks, and I've been struggling mentally trying to feel confident again. And I think this is not from the letter, this is just me input. I think that's what plays the part, right? The confident part. Oh, yeah. This is what makes the Rick Rosses and the BIGs that are all being able to get who they can because they live in confidence in who they are. And they they understand that they the the the uh visually they visually challenge, they understand that, right? Wow. My husband used to be obsessed with me, but lately he barely touches me unless I initiated.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:14

They don't want to have another baby.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:15

Well, right, you're gonna be like three, five years.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:18

You further didn't further myrtle. I'm sorry, go ahead. Time he touched you pregnant, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:24

Well, last night we got into an argument and he finally admitted he said he still loves me, but he's not physically attracted to me anymore. I broke down crying because in my mind, this is the body that this is the body that gave him his family. It's true though. That's true. No, don't you trying to gaslight him, but here's the part that has me conflicted. He also admitted he let himself go too. He gained weight, stopped dressing up, and barely works out either. Now he says we both gotta got you comfortable. I feel torn because I appreciate the honesty, but it also feels cruel. So I think it's I need to know is physical attraction something you allowed to uh say change in marriage.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:29

I think his delivery was cruel. Yeah, I feel like if you had three babies in five years, you never even gave your body a chance to heal from the first baby before you had the second baby, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the third baby. So if they if it's three kids in five years, they probably no more than what 18 months apart. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because anything more than that, you would have been more years. So she literally had these babies back to back.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:53

Yeah, these babies soon as she went for her six checks. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:56

So you didn't get your body chance a chance to heal. You gotta give your body when we first have a baby, our uterus is still swollen, right? You gotta get that stuff back to a chance to get back into its normal position, yeah, in order, you know what I'm saying, to lose the weight properly. Yeah, yeah. So of course you got stretch marks. That's what the fuck we do. I'm like, your body's stretching, you just go exactly stretching. Has he ever baked a human?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:19

There's so many layers, right? I mean, I'm thinking about like to have that amount of kids, which I often see, is you trying to keep a nigga? That's what it's not like, you know what I mean? Why you keep because how y'all just arguing like that? I would think if we had that many kids, we the fucking no for real, the intimacy is heavy, and like, oh well, but I could see the financial strain. But when you having these kids like that, you know it's time to walk away, but you're not willing to, right? So let me let me tell y'all something.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:48

But it also are we having conversations outside the bedroom? Because we just fucking make him down like they're just fucking, and then that's it.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:54

Because how you not know he felt that way, speaking from a man's perspective, and he can't wait too.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:58

So it's like speaking from a man's perspective, right? For whatever reason, we are not, and I'm just saying we, it's not me, I know better, but we are not smart enough to connect the two together. Yeah, this is true. We'll have sex and be shocked when you say you're pregnant. Like you're not doing any, you're not doing any any precautionary methods, but we'll have now you should have only been shocked once.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:30

No, every time I said blew both of us, like where the fuck this little nigga come from, but the other three, you said every time because you gotta think about it, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:39

For men, some men don't understand how it works when it comes to like pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can I learned this from my wife, my listener, right? Yeah, you can only really get uh pregnant at certain times. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, okay, okay. So if we had sex for three two weeks straight, yeah, yeah, and nothing happened this month, and then next month we had sex and boom, pregnant. You're like, what? How did that happen?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:07

You feel what I'm saying? Like, some we don't know the anatomy of the body like that. We some of us are not trying to learn that, so he's shocked, he he confused. He like, I just um you know what? He might be one that don't really want these mini babies like that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

But that's probably another reason why he don't want to have no more sex, yeah. Because he, like, every time we fucking play like you know, every time I touch you, you know, that's okay. And and because getting on birth control wearing a condom is not an option. I got on birth control right after my kids. Well, we actually plan both of our kids, but yeah, I've just only black people in America that we ain't planning, but we never really use we definitely never use condoms.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:48

We didn't plan, but we we knew what was gonna happen eventually. Like we know that this is a possibility, this is a possibility, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:55

But like Kiki said, it's about communication because now we're at a point where we got three kids. Do we want any more kids? Are we clearly our relationship is come to come road cross where how you you know me well enough to not talk to me crazy like that in the heat of an argument and talk about my you thought it was cool to let me know I'm a fat bitch now? That's crazy now because that's what it sounds like like you know what? Fuck your fat ass like that. I might be fat too, but I ain't as big as you, bitch. Yeah, like what that's how I see it. That's how I saw it now. That's how I'm saying you said the delivery big girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:29

I said the delivery was off for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:31

I saw it being this is how I kind of see the relationship, right? We're not intimate like that. We we haven't sex, but we're not intimate, yeah. And you're questioning why, and I'm not answering, but you keep questioning. I'm not answering because I don't know how to put this in words, yeah. But then at some point, you I'm like, look, I'm so sick of her asking me this. Let me just tell you what it is. Your fact, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:53

I can see that. And that's and this is but that's why you gotta say it in the time that you're not arguing, though. Like you gotta have communication when you're not like trying to just say shit, like uh but my thing that's the worst time for me.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:06

Even if you are like if you do gain weight, right? We got these babies back to back to back, you gaining weight, but you're living confidently, yeah. You're you're you're still living healthy, yeah. You're still making changes, you walking every day, doing some stuff. I will still find that attractive. That's true, that's true though.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:26

But if I see you eating bonbons every day, you and you and it, you in the bed eating everything, you ain't even getting up, yeah. You just got everything in the bed.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:33

What you eating while you eat, why you cooking, why you eat? You keep talking about what you've been cooking and you eating at the same time, like, yeah, but you know what? I'll I had to pay for some what you eating right now. What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying? Like, so I think that's the biggest issue here is that he like, listen, I don't see no change. Yeah, he probably not even trying to change. He probably said which he which is in here, I gained weight too. Yeah, but he likes let's do it together. He could be wrong, yeah. I'm like, I'm working out, I'm I'm Actually, trying like even for myself, my job is extremely physical. Yeah, yeah. I'm lifting big appliances all day, going up and down several flights of stairs with appliances. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, shoot, I've worked out. Yeah, but I still work out also, you know what I'm saying? For the other parts of the body that probably did not get worked out. But some people, you know, I think she was fishing for the reason why we're not intimate. She's probably picking. Yeah, she's trying to kick.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:29

I don't know how she still wants to be intimate with all these kids, girl.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:32

No, the intimacy part is the part that we all yearn for. That's true, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:37

That's true. No, that's true. No, no, that's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:40

Intimacy is the part that we yearn for. That's true, that's true. And that's the part that she feels like she's lacking. They the sex is there.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:45

We can see that as well, but some men can't separate. That's why I'm like, it leads to it, though. For me, it leads to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:52

Yeah, and we gotta be honest, ladies, about the victimization in the relationship that we like to take. Like, you you kind of, if you want your nigga to always be the problem. Like, if you don't know how to apologize or accept that, like, yeah, I may have gained a little weight, or did I put on some monster? Yeah, like and who preparing the meals makes a big difference because who's the cooker is going to because you don't cook, but once I started to decide, like, okay, I'm gonna change the way I eat, not that nigga gotta eat vegetables, he don't even eat a vegetable, but it makes a difference that you're giving your body something that it didn't have before.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:24

So you know what I like something y'all said on y'all podcast, y'all don't allow sex to be used as anything other than what it's supposed to be used for. So, like they were saying you they don't uh use sex in their marriage as a reward, yeah. Because you did this, now we can have sex, yeah. Or we're mad, we're not agreeing right now, so let's have sex. Which your husband said that's new to him, yeah. Because he's used to like, oh, you mad, come get you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, let me let me hook you up, let me fix it. But he said, Raquel said, No, no, no, no, no. You're not doing that. We ain't on it, they're not doing that.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:57

And I hadn't always had those type of perspectives, like it's that's some grown woman shit. You get what I'm saying? It takes a like, yeah, oh, we weaponize sex over here.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:05

Yeah, that's what you said. You like in our marriage, sex not intimate, it's sacred.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:10

It is one, I'm about to hype your ass up, and you're about to hype me up, but we don't need to be deflected, yeah, like deflected on like is the issue really communication or because we ain't fucked this week. Now we know four days can go by before one of us gets nippy, so irritated, yeah, irritating. But we know that, but yeah, anything out of four days, okay. That's what keeps us vested. The love, honey. If we couldn't fuck each other and have a good sex life, I don't think I would be with, I would be cheating. I know that unequivocally, I would be cheating, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:43

Yeah, you gotta be honest with yourself. That's true, that's true, that's true.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:47

Yeah, and be able to recognize so but it's the same way for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:51

If you go too long without oral sex, it's gonna be hell to pay the captain. Yeah, I'm talking about we not talking, he knocking shit over, he mad the motherfucking frustrated. So you telling me it's still grass in front of the house, like, yeah, it's grass. Why the fuck is this carpet in the bed? Like, it's supposed to be carpet. What is going on? Why the fuck is so big? Oh, you need some head. Okay, all right, come here, baby. What cooking? Cooking. Who the fuck is gonna fuck you in this kitchen? Like, oh look here.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:21

Come here.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:21

Come here, we'll be right back. Oh my god, but yeah, I love that. Yeah, same thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:27

So, do y'all think that some truth can be damaging saying out loud? Or should it should some truth be like, let me just hold on to this?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:34

That's why people don't talk about because they scared to truth.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:38

No, no truth can be damaging. You take a person's power away from really actually how you know them if you take the truth away. Like me and G had this conversation for a long time. He will tell me the reason why I didn't tell you because I was afraid of your reaction. You don't know my reaction because you ain't no, you were scared of your actions and what you've done, and you let shame and guilt talk you through. You don't need to tell Raquel because you might lose her. You're gonna lose me either way. Whether I know because we have something called what's that shit we feel whether you or intuition, yes. So I ain't gotta know it, but I feel when it's like nigga, please. But when you verify, at least you let me know I'm not a crazy ass bitch. Like now I know, like, okay, cool. Yeah, and then I get to decide, am I still fucking with you? Now the limitations gotta be different. Yeah, oh, you can't go on a boys' cruise by yourself if y'all keep going to fuck on hoes and being in trip clubs and all that. Now it's a family trip.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:34

Now we're going. Thank you. Hello, but I told you, like, I don't know if the the truth can be damaging, but you can't you can't dictate how I respond.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:43

Yeah, absolutely. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:44

Well, I told you the truth. Like, yeah, just because you told me the truth don't mean I gotta accept that shit. It's still right. It's still fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:51

No, no. So I feel like when I tell the truth, sometimes it be well, you can't get it. But but listen, so when I tell the truth, like the reaction I get is so like heartbreaking to the other person. Like, now I don't even want to tell you the truth again.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:08

No, I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:10

No, I mean my delivery because I don't get it. Okay, maybe it will be my delivery. Yeah, yeah. Let me just clock that.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:16

Maybe it'll be you this person. Yeah, you fat.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:19

Maybe it's me. Maybe it's my delivery.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:21

You send this in.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:22

But again, no, don't feel bad about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:24

Maybe it's the delivery though, because your person knows you, right? Like G knows that I'm gonna say whatever the fuck I want to say, regardless, and they know you, you brutally honest. That's okay. But if people don't know you to be truthful, then all I'm gonna speculate is everything coming out your mouth is a lie.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:41

Yeah, yeah, or an omission.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:42

Yeah, what about why about exactly white lie? What about overthinkers, right? And and and what y'all just said. So if you are an overthinker and you are contemplating on how to make the delivery, you don't want it to be as harsh as a kiki. That's what I do though, because I feel so you're sitting back and now you're overthinking on how to do it, working out of it. Sometimes overthinking might push that that time frame back to where I didn't tell you right now, because I'm putting in my head how do I say it? Yeah, I'm going to say it, but how do I say it? You know what I'm saying? That's that's a deep one is.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:18

I mean, a delay is better than the removal, it is, but it depends on when that delay happened. You ain't contemplating on those for months and years, it don't have to be months and years, depending on the situation.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:27

And you don't want nobody, especially if somebody else comes, which I think is.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:36

But it's not that, it's just yeah, yeah, yeah. They're trying to figure out what's the right time, where's the asset, what's the just but when it goes so long and you choose to just omit, now you done took that out. You don't give a fuck. You you done thought so deeply about it. Like I always say, just rip the band-aid off. Like it's if it's fucked up, it's gonna be fucked up no matter how you say it, that's true, how you sugarcoat it, yeah. The person feelings gonna be hurt regardless, but at least you leave room for repair. Like at least you can really talk to, and your person can say, I know that I always tell G, I know this was hard for you to even come to me with it. So I appreciate that. That I can respect growth. And I already knew, like, when when I thought you were my husband, you thought I thought you was just no, your freaky ass tendencies is what led me to marry your ass. I know that's she did say that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:25

She likes no, he was my person. Okay, we're married.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:28

I'm ready to be so nasty with you because who's gonna shame me? Yes, you should. Whether when I was single, yeah, and I was out here doing the dog, oh, you a hoe. Well, you actually right. I'm a hoe. Let me go be married.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:40

Hello, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. But I do feel like delivery matters, right? Yeah, yeah. I've been working on it. So so you just gonna eat the whole fucking pizza. So you just gonna sleep all day and never go to the gym. I'm like, I see but you know it's crazy. As soon as she says it, she be like, damn, yeah, no, now she'd call me like BFF, that was too much. Yeah, yes, yeah. I knew it. Okay, I'm working on it. You are she is getting, I would say 100% she getting better. Yeah, she still says it, absolutely, but she just try to, yeah, yeah, and that's work. You know what I'm saying? So she is working on it because initially, yeah, I was like, Yeah, we ain't gonna make it out of here.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:23

That is you evolving, right? Like you care enough about the relationship to say, Let me go back and take accountability that I may have hurt my person. So that's that overthinking.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:32

Well, that's that's having good friends too. They be putting me in my place, like, did you the fuck? Did why the fuck would you just say that?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:38

Yeah, like each other kind of, yeah. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:40

I'd be like, Oh, okay, maybe that was wrong. Maybe I should have said that a little nicer.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:44

Yeah, yeah, we definitely would be like, No, that wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:46

I'd be having to tell you that sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:47

Yeah, I know that's like I know quick too. I love she like BFF. What the I'm like, god damn it, I'm sorry. But if you around people that think everything you do is right, that's you around the wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:59

We don't need no yes man.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:01

Nothing I do wrong ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:02

I don't want a yes man in my corner.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:04

Because now that got so small, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:07

It's probably four good people.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:11

We missed the one person. This is our circle. We're a period. Love it. Right quality over quantity. I tell y'all that all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:18

That's a fact, man. That's a fact. All right, y'all got any more questions? Anything that was fire. That was good. Okay, you want to plug plug the uh podcast home again?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:28

Yes, it is your girl, Miss Mouthie, the one and only lips of Detroit. You can catch me on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow the mouthies on Instagram or follow our website, lovethemouthies.com. We are just out here trying to give people great conversation. You know what I mean? Fuck all that yes man shit that we talked about. You know, it's okay to hold each other accountable, show that you're human and you make mistakes, and just come pop your shit with your girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:56

And she does a lot for the community. I don't I feel like you're downplaying yourself a lot, but she does a lot for the community. She she has like outreaches on her page, she does like fundraisers and feed the youth, and like you do so much, you more than just a podcast. I do, I got a bunch of you, you know what I no, not our you, not our kids.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:16

So, one of the things I do so much because I think it takes a community of all of us to get together and find our strength. One of the things that I'm passionate about is people never going hungry. Growing up, just being hungry and never feeling like there was enough food, and how we use food, access to foods in Detroit was hard. So every month, me and my husband go out and we feed the community. We have an initiative called Mouthy Meals. And so, even in November, we're gonna have an event where we're gonna let community members come in and have dinner because the holiday is hard. Like people don't have people in my community that get disregarded, they don't have placement. Yeah, come eat for free. Come copy your shit with us, have fun. Yeah, we do a lot. We also have nonprofits that center these type of teachings around gender identity.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:04

Yeah, so y'all just keep up with us when what we got going on, and I just feel like you're a super safe space for everybody. Like, I don't I don't want people to think like you only for the trans community, yeah, absolutely, or you only for the LGBTQIA plus. I don't want people to think that, right? I want people to know that you are a safe haven for all people.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:23

Like, don't come with no bullshit. You gotta be real. You coming over here. That's all my disclaimer. I don't give a fuck where you from, what's your background is that? But don't come with no bullshit. Like, if you want to really dissect some conversation, if you really want to impact change and you really want to take an introspective look at oneself and really take some accountability, let's have the conversation. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:43

And then and then you just like like we said, you just hot, you just open. You got a question, ask it. First of all, listen if you got a question, listen to the podcast. She has she answers all the time. She has a question. I didn't even know. I didn't even know I needed to make it.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:56

Oh, okay. I learned a lot today. I ain't even gonna lie. I'm gonna article on their podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:00

I know I gotta finish because I haven't even started yet, but I gotta finish. But yeah, I'm always here.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:04

Can we just add S to the to the rest of the letters? For what?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:08

S for what? What's S for?

SPEAKER_07 1:40:09

Straight. Yeah, y'all can be done.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:13

But y'all we the A though.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:17

Okay, so this is my let me pick a bone with allyship because motherfuckers to be an ally. This is my rule of thumb. If you do not want anybody in your family to show up with a bitch like me or like G, then you not an ally. You still got some for real. Everybody wanna be down when they get in their hair, nails, and clothes.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:40

Till it comes to the people.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:41

Then it comes to this your stepmama, this your cousin. Cause your people is fucking on us. We ain't we fucking somebody, so I just need y'all to not care so much about what people do and care more about who they are.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:54

Yeah, or you or like, no, y'all cool. Yeah, not over here though. Yeah, yeah, you move over there. Yeah, yeah. No, I love gay people. That might come better.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:03

I got three trans friends. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:05

Oh, I hate when people say that.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:07

Do they get a closer gay?

SPEAKER_00 1:41:09

You know, I just I just let people be people, I got one gay friend. Like I be like, get some more.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:17

How how dare you say I'm a homophobe?

SPEAKER_00 1:41:19

I ain't no gay people. Like, what because whether you got one black friend, one gay friend, you need more so you can get perspective. You can't get perspective until you have a bunch of people. I think they just be using it.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:31

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:31

We gotta have you back on here so we could talk about the hate inside the community. Oh, that's a whole different subject. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've heard I've heard gay people say if you gotta be a boy or a girl. Yeah, if you're a boy, you if you a boy, you can like boys. If you a girl, you can like girls, but all that other shit, yeah, no, that's fake.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:50

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:50

That's like hate inside your letter better than us.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:53

You can't just get rid of the alphabet. The fuck? No, we just you either gay or you bisexual. All that other shit, that ain't real. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna have her back on. Y'all think y'all we're gonna have Miss Mouthie back on. I'm a lip. Yeah, I'm gonna get me a shirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:09

Okay, I'll get you a shirt. I'll show you. I don't want to. I got y'all, I got y'all.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:13

Oh, okay. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:15

You can find us on my favorite platform, YouTube or Bumble.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:21

Buzz Pro.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:22

Oh, Buzz Pro. Yeah, ain't that a data site?

SPEAKER_07 1:42:28

You you can't find us on Bumble. We ain't on Bumble.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:32

I don't even know what Bumble is. It just popped up. It's a data side.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:37

It's like Christian Mingo.com, you know? Oh we're not on Bumble, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:43

Okay, Bud Sprout. Period. I also love my heart radio or wherever you get your. I mean, I guess if you on Apple Podcasts.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:51

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:51

Or wherever you get your podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:53

Said the Android. Said the Android. You can follow me at your girl.kd. You can follow Kiki at RRP.kiki. You can follow Coach DTM at Coach DTM. You can follow the podcast page at rrp.network.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:08

All right. Let me give you a mattress for the day, man. As we were talking, I was just putting letters and words down, and they came out to be actual words. All right. So this is what it says. Stop thinking. Stop shrinking yourself to fit in. Living in your truth means choosing peace over approval. Oh purpose over popularity and authenticity over applause.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:40

Coach DT. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:42

Girl KD. Your hostess with the most is Kiki.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:45

And our illustrious Miss Mouth, the one and only lips of Detroit.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:52

Raquel Luther Queen.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:54

Yeah. Oh, come on, huh? Oh, Martin Luther King.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:57

Yeah, Raquel Luther Queen. I do not experience. And this has been yet another episode of Relationship Reality Podcast, man. Make sure y'all tune in, not just to Relationship Reality Podcast, but on Mondays, we got Girl Talk.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:13

Cocktails. Girl talks.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:15

Cocktails. Girl talk and cocktails.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:17

Cocktails and girl talks.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:18

Y'all know what it is. Cocktails and girl talk with me and Lady. Cocktails and girl talk.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:24

I knew he was going there. That's how you got it down.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:28

And then um, you know, Wednesday, relationship reality, Friday.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:32

Marriage material.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:34

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:34

So what day you drop? Uh normally I used to do it on Mondays, Mouthy Mondays. So you know, now I just episode. But now 2.0 Ricky L. She's coming back with some heat. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:49

We're about to make her come back. So when she comes back, we're gonna let you know when she comes back.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:53

Make her come back.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:53

But till then, go on over there, listen to the episode they got.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:56

Yeah, go binge listen over there, man. Thank you. Uh scream record, like we tell y'all for us, man. Make sure y'all scream record your favorite part. You know what I'm saying? Post it and tag us and them.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:06

Period.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:07

You know what I mean? Because we want to know we got that love out there. You know, y'all like how we're a little country out there. I'm like, a little country out there like that though.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:16

So anyway, we gotta go uh get our drink on, man. We got an appointment with some wine. Yeah, it is it's wine time, you know what I'm saying? It's wine o'clock, you know. Um we appreciate y'all tuning in, man. We'll see y'all next week. So long, bye-bye.