Let's Talk About Confidence

Confidence, After Setbacks

John M Walsh Season 1 Episode 9

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One hard moment can make years of wins feel like luck. A failed launch, a public takedown, slow erosion at work—suddenly the proof you trusted no longer “counts,” and your brain starts telling darker stories. We’re closing the season by unpacking exactly how confidence crashes, how to protect what you’ve built, and how to restore it faster than you think.

We begin with four vivid stories: a leader whose high-visibility project failed in public, a consultant cut down mid-presentation by an aggressive CEO, a writer crushed by a mentor’s verdict, and a top salesperson worn down by constant second-guessing. From there, we map the anatomy of a crash: the trigger that flips the threat response, the reinterpretation of past successes as luck, the generalisation that spreads doubt across domains, the behavioural shifts into avoidance and over preparation, and the self-sealing feedback loop that keeps you stuck. You’ll hear why your evidence didn’t disappear—it got distorted—and why that’s good news.

Then we move into protection that actually works. You’ll learn how to distribute evidence across contexts, run a regular evidence review, set an expected failure rate for meaningful work, set boundaries around whose opinions carry weight, separate domains so one stumble doesn’t poison the rest, manage psychological and physical resources, and build meta-evidence that you can rebuild confidence itself. I share my own crash running a tough workshop, the car-park reframe that contained the damage, and the later test that proved the learning stuck.

To close, we lay out a five-phase recovery plan: contain the damage in 48 hours, access existing evidence in week one, correct interpretation in weeks one and two, re-engage at low stakes to gather fresh wins, and update mental models without turning setbacks into identity. If your crash is tied to trauma or you’re not improving after focused effort, we talk about when to seek professional support.

Confidence isn’t a vibe or a trait; it’s accumulated evidence, built through attempts and tested under pressure. Ready to act? Subscribe, share this finale with someone who needs it, and tell us the one domain where you’ll run ten attempts this month. Your next piece of evidence starts today.

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Four Stories Of Collapse

Five Root Causes Explained

The Anatomy Of A Crash

Protection Strategies That Stick

A Personal Crash And Reframe

The Five-Phase Recovery Plan

A Later Test And What Changed

When To Seek Professional Help

Season Recap And Core Principles

Your Next Step: Start The Cycle

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Let's talk about confidence. Episode 9, when confidence crashes, recovery and rebuilding. Welcome to the final episode in this season of Let's Talk About Confidence. I'm John M. Malsh, and over the past episodes we've built a comprehensive understanding of confidence, how it's built through accumulated evidence, how to push through the boring middle bit, and how to execute under pressure. And also how to build confidence across all the different life domains. But there's one thing we need to talk about. What happens when confidence crashes? When you've built confidence through months or years of systematic practice, and then something happens that undermines it, maybe a major failure or public humiliation, devastating feedback, betrayal. Suddenly the confidence you worked so hard to build feels fragile or gone entirely. This episode is about what causes confidence to crash, how to protect the confidence you've built, and most importantly, how to recover. Here's what I've learned over the years. Confidence crashes are not that rare. They're quite common. Almost everybody who builds significant confidence eventually experience a crash. The difference between people who recover and people who don't isn't that they're stronger. It's that they understand what's happening and how to rebuild it. Let me start by sharing some stories of confidence crashes. The first one I've called the high-stakes failure. It's Rachel, she's a senior manager. She's been eight years in the role, strong leadership confidence, built through hundreds of difficult conversations and thousands of decisions. Then she led a major project, six months of work, very, very high visibility, and she made a strategic decision that seemed sound at the time, but it failed spectacularly and in public. Rachel's leadership confidence crashed in two weeks. She'd questioned every decision, second guess herself constantly. Eight years of accumulated evidence felt meaningless in the face of one major failure. Second story is one called the public humiliation, and this is about David, who was a consultant. He'd built strong presentation confidence over five years. Then he was presented to a particularly aggressive CEO. Mid-presentation, the CEO interrupted. It's a waste of our time. You clearly don't understand our business. We're done here. In front of 20 people, it was brutal. David's presentation confidence crashed. For three months, he couldn't present without overwhelming anxiety. This one's called the Devastating Feedback. Lisa was a writer. She built a creative confidence over three years, finally felt confident calling herself a writer. Then she shared her work with a mentor she deeply respected, and the feedback was harsh. This isn't good. You need to start over. Lisa's creative confidence crashed, but she stopped writing entirely. Three years of confidence built and undermined by one conversation. And the final story is called the accumulated erosion. Because not all confidence crashes are sudden. James was a salesperson, he'd built strong sales confidence over ten years. Then his company changed his compensation, reassigned his territories, and brought in leadership who constantly questioned his approach. Over six months his confidence gradually eroded. There was no single dramatic event, just constant low-level undermining. Eventually, James was functioning like someone in their first year, not their tenth. There's five causes of confidence crashes. Cause number one is a high-stakes failure. High stakes attempt fails spectacularly, evidence that you built your confidence, it suddenly feels very unreliable. Cause two, the public humiliation. Someone whose opinion matters delivers brutal feedback publicly. Your brain categorized the entire domain as dangerous. Cause three, the betrayal or violation of your trust. Someone you trusted undermined you. The relationship context made your confidence feel safe. The betrayal removes that safety. Cause four is accumulated erosion. Not a single event but sustained pressure, gradually wears down your confidence. And cause five is life circumstances. Could be illness, loss, trauma, burnout. They just deplete your resources. And confidence requires psychological and physical resources. When it's depleted, confidence becomes fragile. The common thread in all of these is that all confidence crashes involve a reinterpretation of your evidence. You had evidence, I can do this, I've got hundreds of examples. But something happens that makes you question it. But I failed this time. Maybe all that evidence was luck. Confidence crashes when accumulated evidence suddenly feels unreliable. Understanding this is critical for recovery. Because the evidence didn't actually disappear, it got reinterpreted. And reinterpretation can be corrected. Let's look at the anatomy of a crash. Phase one is a triggering event, something happens, your threat response activates intensely. Your brain categorizes the situation as dangerous, socially dangerous, or identity-threatening. Phase two, the evidence reinterpretation. This is where the crash actually happens. Your brain in threat mode, and threat mode reinterprets your accumulated evidence. Those successes were luck. I was fooling myself, the failure reveals the truth. I'm not actually capable. The evidence doesn't change, your interpretation does. This reinterpretation is what crashes confidence. Phase three, the generalization, the crash doesn't stay contained, it generalizes. Rachel's project failure wasn't just about that project, her brain generalized it. I can't make good strategic decisions, I'm not a competent leader. The generalization makes a crash far more destructive than the trigging event warrants. Phase four, the behavioral change. Once confidence is crashed, behaviour changes. Avoidance, you avoid situations requiring that confidence. Over preparation, you prepare excessively, trying to eliminate all risk, and you get performance anxiety. Situations that used to feel manageable now trigger intense anxiety. In self-monitoring, you're watching yourself constantly, looking for evidence that you're failing. Phase 5 is the feedback loop. These behaviors feel protective, they're actually maintaining the crash. Avoidance prevents new evidence, over preparation creates exhaustion, performance anxiety degrades execution, and self-monitoring takes away the attention from external focus. These behaviors create a feedback loop that maintains low confidence. So we need protection strategies. And before we talk about recovery, let's just talk about that protection. How to make confidence less vulnerable to crashes. Let's start with strategy one, the distributed evidence. Don't put all your confidence evidence in one context. Lead projects in multiple domains. Handle difficult conversations with different types of people. When one context fails, you still have evidence from others. So distribute the evidence across your domains. Strategy two is regular evidence review. Don't just accumulate evidence. Review it systematically. Quarterly look at your evidence log. This keeps evidence psychologically accessible. It makes it harder for one failure to reinterpret years of success. Your log could be your diary when you're looking at what activities you've done. It could be reviewing the presentations you've done, the project milestones you've met, whatever it is, review that evidence. Strategy C's expected failure rate. Now understand that failure is statistically guaranteed. High performers fail more often than low performers because they attempt more difficult things. Build this into your expectations. I know I'll fail approximately 20% high-stakes attempts. That's the expected failure rate for challenging work. It might be higher. When failure happens, it's not shocking. It's statistical and you were expecting it. You were prepared for it. Strategy 4 is relationship boundaries. Be careful whose opinions have power to crash your confidence. Decide consciously whose feedback matters. This doesn't mean ignoring all criticism. It means being strategic about whose opinions can destabilize you. Strategy 5 is domain separation. Keep domains separate. A crash in one domain doesn't need to affect other domains. Rachel's project failure was in strategic planning. It doesn't actually relate to her capability in difficult conversations or delegation. A better approach, I made a strategic planning error. My other leadership capabilities remain intact. Strategy six is resource management. Confidence requires psychological and physical resources. Predict them. Make sure you get adequate sleep. Make sure you build in some recovery time. Build up your emotional reserves. Think of confidence like your immune system, when resources are good, can handle challenges. When it's depleted, it's vulnerable. Strategy 7. Meta evidence. Build evidence about your ability to build confidence. Not just evidence of specific capabilities. I've built confidence in sales and leadership and public speaking. I know how to build confidence. This is meta-evidence and it's way more stable. Even if confidence crashes in one domain, the meta-evidence remains. I've rebuilt confidence before I can do it again. Let me tell you about my own crashes. Years ago I ran a workshop for a car manufacturer in Birmingham. It was eight hours. I could see from the start the participants didn't want to be there. We call them reluctant learners. Arms crossed, legs extended, all looking away. You could tell they just didn't want to be there. But I pushed through, I did everything I knew how to do, but nothing was getting them involved and nothing was landing. When it finished, I felt like I'd failed, like I wasn't good enough. Drive home was two hours, I didn't put the radio on, just had my own thoughts and replaying every moment, every crossed arm, every disengaged face. By the time I pulled into my driveway, I felt worthless. And I knew I couldn't walk into my house feeling like that. So I sat in the car and had a wee chat with myself. I made myself remember the nine years of successful workshops before that day. The great participant feedback I'd had, the scores, they're all positive. The professional training that I'd completed to allow me to do my job. I trained hard for this, I was still learning. I had the evidence, real evidence, that I was good at this work. Then I made myself look around. I was sitting outside a beautiful home. I had a successful career, a wife who loved me, a family who loved me. And all of that was still true. One difficult workshop didn't erase any of it. That reframe snapped me out of it. Walked into my house, hugged my wife, and moved on. But it was a hard lesson, and here's what the experience taught me about recovery. The five phases of recovery, phase one is contain the damage. In the first 48 hours, when a crash happens, first priorities prevent generalization. The crash wants to spread to this workshop field becomes I'm not good at workshops because I'm not good at anything. Your job in the first 48 hours contain it to the specific context. Well I had to tell myself in the car this was one shop one workshop with participants who didn't want to be there. That doesn't mean I can't run workshops. Write it down if you need to. Your brain will want to generalize it. So writing it down, reviewing it actively prevents that. Phase two is accessing your existing evidence. You do that through week one where your accumulated evidence still exists. You temporarily lost access to it because you were feeling under threat. Restore that access. That's what I did in my car. Forced myself to remember nine years of successful workshops, excellent feedback, professional qualifications. If you keep an evidence log, open it. Read it systematically and count the attempts. Look at the progression. I kept a log of all the people that I've worked with and that we'd awarded certificates to for completing the workshops with us. I'd go back to that log and look at what I'd done that year so far. And up the top was a number that we'd done since we'd started moving into the workshops and consultancy. So you're not building it from zero, you're restoring access to what already exists. Phase three is correct interpretation. This is again in one week one, week two. The crash happened because of evidence reinterpretation. Correct it. My crashed interpretation was the workshop failed, therefore I'm not good at the work. The correct interpretation is I've got hundreds of successful workshops and one difficult one. That's a normal distribution of outcomes when you do challenging work. And this isn't just positive thinking, it's accurate thinking. You're correcting a cognitive distortion caused by negativity bias. Phase four, low stakes, re-engagement. Don't jump back into a high-stakes situation immediately. Re-engage gradually. After that Birmingham workshop, I didn't immediately take on another difficult corporate client. I ran a session with a group I knew well and built one new piece of evidence, then another, then another. Progressive re-engagement, each successful attempt, strengthens confidence slightly. And phase five is update your mental models. This is always ongoing. Use the crash as learning without letting it destabilize you. What I learned from Birmingham, some groups just don't want to be there. That's not always fixable. Read the room earlier. Don't take reluctant participants personally. That's useful learning, different from I'm bad at workshops. Extract the learning and don't internalize failure as identity. Many years later, as much as six years later, seven years later, I was running a workshop for an engineering company in Geneva. It was pre-Christmas, and it was just coming up to the bit where we would naturally break for Christmas. And again, I got the feeling that the people just didn't want to be there. There was a class about 12 or 15, and again it was this reluctant learner syndrome. But I went back to the Birmingham one, not in a bad way. I went back to it in a good way and went, I know this isn't about me. This is about them. I tried to build relationships with them. I delivered the material, they played a part, they went along with it, but I knew when I'd finished it it wasn't as good as it could have been. But I knew that it wasn't me. I'd stuck to the workshop process that I had, the techniques I'd used and got great feedback on. And I found out months later that these guys didn't want to be there before Christmas. They knew the travel, because they were from all over Europe. They knew the travel would be difficult and they begged not to do the workshop before Christmas. So they took that out in me, not the company that put them there. It was funny, I found out about it through a colleague who was doing the next module with them, and the group felt so bad, they sent me a case of wine to apologize. So don't take one instance of a crash as everything about you. Sometimes you've got to do a bit of digging to get your evidence to show that you are still confident in that area because you've got the evidence, and that helps. Confidence crashes, they do feel permanent when they're happening, but they're not. Systematic recovery is maybe week one after that acute crash, you've got an in an intense anxiety, and this is the worst phase where you're feeling it. And then the following weeks, you re-engage, still anxiety, but it's manageable. And then as you move on from that, your confidence starts returning noticeably. And after a couple of months, maybe even quicker, your confidence is largely restored. It's much faster than building confidence initially because you're not building from zero, you're recovering access to existing evidence. Most confidence crashes can be recovered using these strategies, but some require professional support. If the crash was triggered by a trauma, a trauma, or if you're experienced symptoms beyond confidence, loss, depression, inability to function, intrusive thoughts, if you tried recovery strategies for three months, two months, whatever, without any improvement, there's absolutely no shame in seeking professional support. Some confidence crashes are beyond self-recovery strategies. Over the episodes, we built a complete understanding of confidence. Episode one was why most confidence advice fails. And it was looking at the confidence cycle, evidence-based confidence, and building on that. Episode two, we majored on the bone middle, but where most people quit yet, that's exactly where your brain is restructuring and building the neural pathways. You need to be confident, but we can't see any of that yet. Episode three, when confidence starts building, that was us putting ourselves under some progressive challenges to build our confidence. Episode four, we started with confidence under pressure. We were looking at that pressure tolerance training. And episode five was team confidence. How do we get that collective execution under pressure? Episode six sales confidence. And it was looking at why sales skills alone don't work. We've got to be prepared for the rejection that sales roles naturally brings. Episode seven is leadership confidence in particular. It's that subject matter or technical expert that one day is doing the job on a Friday, but on the Monday they're now a leader. And it's how do they transition that and build their confidence. In episode eight, we looked at confidence across domains, life domains, and we consider what things transfer and what doesn't. And when confidence crashes, as has been this final episode, and it's all about protecting ourselves and recovering. Throughout the series, one message has remained consistent. Confidence isn't a feeling you conjure up through positive thinking. It's not a personality trait that you're born with. Confidence is accumulated evidence of your capability in specific domains, built through systematic practice, tested under pressure, maintained through continued engagement. Not quickly, not easily, but it is reliable. If you listen to the entire series, you know, understand confidence better than 95% of people. The question now, will you use the knowledge? Because understanding doesn't build confidence, practice builds confidence. Pick one domain, start the confidence cycle. Ten attempts this month, track them, build the evidence. In a year you'll have foundation confidence. A few years from now, application level confidence. A bit further on, mastery. Or you can do nothing, and then 10 years from now, you'll still be wishing you had confidence. The choice is yours. Thanks for listening to the series. I hope it's given you not just understanding, but practical tools to build your confidence at lasts. And most important, don't just listen, use it. Start today. One attempt, one piece of evidence, one step forward. John M. Walsh, this has been Let's Talk About Confidence. Thanks for listening, and I'll see you in season two.