Reconnect With Your Creative Voice: How to Lead From What Feels True [Ep. 16]

What is coaching, really… and how is it different from advice, consulting, or someone just telling you what to do?

In this episode, I sit down with Cynthia Platero, certified coach and creative strategist, to break down what real coaching looks like and why it’s so powerful for leaders, entrepreneurs, and creatives.

We talk about the difference between external pressure and internal clarity, why so many people feel stuck or unsure of their next step, and how coaching helps you reconnect with your voice, your creativity, and your self-trust.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re constantly looking outside of yourself for answers, or questioning your decisions, this conversation will help you shift how you think about growth and leadership.

In this episode, we cover:

• What coaching actually is (and what it’s not)
• Why self-trust is one of the most important skills you can build
• How external pressure impacts your decisions and identity
• Why clarity comes from within, not from someone else

This episode is a reminder that you already have what you need, sometimes you just need the right space to uncover it.

Guest:

Cynthia resides in Texas. Outside of her coaching practice, she is an aerial dance artist who tells stories through original acts - a practice that mirrors her philosophy of listening inward, moving with intention, and creating from truth." 

You can find her at:
www.CynthiaPlatero.com
https://www.instagram.com/coaching.creatives

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Well I'm against this podcast is for Latina Entrepreneurs building businesses while navigating faith, culture, and yes, motherhood. William Pack How Your Story Shapes Your Leadership. You can build real life systems that help you grow without burning out. This is working with Latina meets strategy. So let's go.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Welcome to the Latina Entrepreneur Podcast. I'm your host, Anya Mercado, and today we have the beautiful Cynthia Platero, a certified executive coach, creative strategist, and an energetic guide to high-achieving creatives, leaders who are ready to start leading from what feels true. And so we have a couple of topics that we want to talk about and really want to know what is coaching, right? First of all, and why choosing coaching creatives? So we have all those questions for you and probably more, Cynthia, but welcome, welcome. And before we kick this off, I want to ask you, what's your favorite traditional dessert? I love this question.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

Thank you. So I'm from El Salvador, and Pan Dulce is really big in El Salvador. At least when I, as I was growing up, and I was there until I was nine years old. And when I was nine years old, we moved to the United States. But Pan Dulce has always been my favorite dessert. More specifically, salpores. So what does that look like? So it's like um, it's like a scone, but so much better. And I like the scones or the salpores that are from not from my ros, but the other one. I'm blanking on the other one, but it's salpore. So just look for salpur. You can go to Fiesta. I don't know if you have fiestas near you, but the salpores from fiestas are amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

That is awesome. Oh my gosh. Okay, I want to kick things off because I want to learn so much about you, really what got you into coaching.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Excellent. Yes. So first of all, thank you for having me. This is such a great opportunity, and I love talking about my coaching work. And so thank you for bringing me on. So, coaching, what is coaching? Coaching, the coaching industry has grown in the last few years, and you see a lot of these coaches that say, sign up for my program and you will be making six-digit figures by the end of the six weeks, or whatever results in six weeks and five weeks and three weeks, by the end of the week, you'll be doing XYZ, right? That's not the type of coaching that I do. So the type of coaching that I do is really like a partnership between my client and myself. And it's a thought-provoking and creative process with the goal to inspire the client to maximize their potential. So personal, professional, it all blends together at the end of the day. And so through this like collaborative discussion, clients define their own structure and their own strategy to achieve whatever personal or professional goals that they have. And this process really facilitates a meaningful growth and empowers them to make their own decisions about their lives. We live in a world where we're so influenced by not social media, but by our friends, by our family, by our culture, by our work. And we forget to listen to ourselves. So that's the space that I create with my clients, it's really a safe space to say what you have held back for so long from saying, to really desire the things that you desire internally and not what other people are pressuring you to desire. And we work on those things and we work on digging into what's holding you back. That's one of my staple questions in every session with every client. We'll go through what do you want to talk about? What's your goal for today's session? How will we know we have been successful? And then we'll go, why is this important? Why is this important to you? And then what's holding you back from doing this thing that you want to do? And so then we'll start to dig in really deep as to what's holding you back. A lot of times we'll go to the surface answer, oh, I don't have time to do XYZ. Through the questions that I ask, and it's all like dependent on the person. I don't have a script, I don't have a like a pamphlet or anything like that, right? We're having a conversation and we're deep in conversation, trying to dig deep as to what's holding you back, what's getting in the way, and what do you, what do you really desire to get clarity for you? Because a lot of times we're not really clear. And again, we go to the surface answer and we think this is it, but it's really not. It's like layers deeper than what we think it is. So that's what coaching is. And so, why coaching creatives? I'm a very creative person. I since I was little, I have been performing on stages and singing and dancing, and I love being on stage. And somewhere down the road as I grew up, I silenced that creative because of the pressures of again, social pressures, culture pressures, family pressures, friends pressures, right? And the pressure of I really shouldn't be playing around, I should be finding a job that's gonna feed me and my family, right? And we silence that creative. We're all born creative. Before we learn to speak, what do we do? We sing, right? Before we're walking around, what are we doing? We're dancing. And so we are all born creative. And through all the pressures, we silence, we silence that creative, that inner creative in us. And I did it. And so it's taken me years to bring her back, to bring my creative genius back. And I want to help people do that. I think that expressing our creative selves is the most important thing that we can do to staying true to who we are. And that's why I want to help people just like me.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

I love that. And I love how you said we're all born creators because it is true. We sometimes just what you said, all the pressures that happen around, like we put that creativity away. And because we just keep filling it with all these uh thoughts and things that happen around. And even though with my kids, that's the best time when they're bored. You keep saying, when when can I be creative? When you're bored, because you have nothing to do. Don't give them the iPad, don't give them, give them like either go outside, give them the pen and paper, and they'll see that they have this amazing gift inside them to portray. And that is true. So I love that you said we're all born creators. And I know that you're teaching a lot of leaders, executives. I want to ask you a question. Have you come up with a theme that you've seen people at their level struggle with the most?

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Yeah, I think what I have seen in a lot of my clients is that again, we hold ourselves back, right? And sometimes we want someone else to give us the answer again, because we're so used to the society telling us this is what you should be doing, our culture, et cetera, et cetera. And I have sometimes that's the people come to me and say, I want to do these things, tell me what to do. And I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. Right? Like, I'm not here to tell you what to do, I'm here to help you uncover how to do the things that you want to do in a way that is aligned to you, to who you are, right? I can tell you all day long, this is how I did it, but it doesn't mean that it's gonna be true to who you are, right? And so we figure out through these discussions, we figure out what is a true way for you to accomplish what you want to accomplish and do it in a way that, again, is aligned to who you are, to where two, three years down the road you look back and you say, Yeah, I'm aligned to how I did that thing, and I'm proud of the way that I did that thing. So that's a theme. The other theme that I find a lot with my clients is again, we hold ourselves back because of external pressures. Oh, it's the judgment, right? A lot of my clients they don't know this, but they judge themselves as they judge others. And that's the kind of voice that we try to quiet in our sessions, right? Bringing clarity to why can't you do this thing? And oh, I don't want it to look bad. It's gonna look bad at first. With practice, you're gonna get better and better. And this can be anything. This can be like something that if you want to learn to draw or you wanna learn to speak in public, whatever skill or whatever goal you have, it always takes practice. You're never gonna be the best thing, the best thing out there when you first start out. And it's about building that practice. So a lot of times we hold ourselves back due to that judgment that we have we've created this habit of telling ourselves we're not good enough, we can't do that. What are people gonna think? That's a big one. What are people gonna think? What are they gonna say? I'm guilty of that. What are people gonna say when they see me launching coaching creatives? Oh, they're all gonna be talking about me. But you know what? You do it anyway, and you build those habits and you become the person who you are meant to be and who you want to be, really.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Yeah, no, thank you for that. That's what I see a lot. And when even with what when I work with clients, and I that's why I think coaching is very important, especially as you leaders are developing in their roles. Because a lot of it, even in the workplace, right? Because they could apply in the workplace, they can apply leaders in the business, right? Either way, sometimes, especially in the workplace, I was in the works for many years. I can say that there were leaders were getting promoted, right? From being such great top performer salespeople, for example, into a leadership role, but they weren't prepared for that leadership role, right? They could do the skills of what got them there, but when you have to be that person to lead a team, to support your team, it's a it's completely different. And I see, and I saw some of them would struggle with it because they're like, I just I don't know, I want to deal with this. I go, I should just go back to be doing focusing on myself and like just what I have to bring. And it's no, like you have this opportunity, like it's a time to then challenge yourself to get to that next level. But yeah, I've seen I've seen it all the time. Now, let me ask you are is there like a transformation that you even you yourself have gotten from coaching? Because I'm sure like you went through coaching, that's why it also allowed you to do what you're doing now because you saw the impact. I know for me it was it's huge. Like I love coaching, and whenever I do have, I feel challenged about something and or something comes up, or I'm just like dealing with some type of imposter syndrome, let's say, I'm like calling my coach, hey, I need help right now, what's going on? Let's figure this out. I want to hear from you, like what has been your like transformation story?

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Yeah, in a lot of my clients, including in myself, I also have a coach and I meet with my coach every other week or every three weeks at the least. But a lot of the theme improvement, if you will, right? It's that clarity, it's that learning to listen to ourselves and it and it really boils down to self-trust, is building that trust within ourselves. Again, we're always hearing from our parents or our families or our friends. Oh, you should do this, you should do that. And that's fine. But what do you want to do? And we, and again, we as we silence our creative, we silence our inner voice. It's the same thing, basically. And so we have to, in through my work, through my coaching, we learn to listen and to bring that voice back and to place more trust, right? Who knows you better than you know yourself, nobody. And so we have to learn to, or we want to learn to listen to ourselves, right? Build that confidence, that trust within ourselves. I think that's probably like the biggest transformation that you can see, or that I have seen in my clients, is the self-trust, the self-confidence, the clarity of who you are and who you want to be. And and that's like the biggest. I love that. I love seeing the light turn on. I love seeing people realize, oh my God, I can't believe I was doing that. I was doing that thing to myself. I was holding myself back. And I just love that.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Yeah, I love that you said that nobody knows you better than yourself. I think it's so true. I think that's one of the things, the hardest thing, especially as going back to how we're like bombarded with so many things, that find the finding that quiet time now has gotten really hard for many people to just stand still and listen to your voice. Like I know for my that's something I try to practice. Like sometimes I'm in the car, and if I have a lot of things in my mind, I normally would have put a podcast on, put a music on, and just be in that moment. And when I started forcing myself to turn that radio off to turn in and just be in my car at that moment and just be in quiet, it was scary. I was not, and it's like, what? Like, how can I be scared of being by myself alone? But it was like that forcing that allowed me to just start thinking and talking to myself a little bit more. Okay, what is going on? What is this happening? Like almost like self-coaching myself, right? But it was through, like once again, through that coaching journey that I've gone through allowed me to understand that it's really within me. And it's like I have to stop and think. Why do I feel this way? It's is it really this high level? Like, I'm just scared. What's that fear coming from? What is it? And but it takes a lot of practice and self-awareness. I think that's key, right? Like that self-awareness, making sure like you you understand and you hear it. And same thing, like when I'm in coffee lines waiting, or at the sort, I'll put my phone away. Like I force myself to not be waiting and just looking through my phone, but okay, like Anya, like you can do this. Like, we don't have to look at your phone. Like, maybe we talk to somebody, like, and I'm an introvert. That does not come easy. Like, the more I can put my shades on and hide and go incognito, the better. It's it's those skills and that those breakthroughs, like you you explained, happen because of coaching and having a good coach as well. It's key that can help you navigate through that and not tell you what to do. Because I have seen a lot of that. We can talk a little bit about this, but where there's a lot of coaches out there that call themselves coaches, but they're really acting more as of, I don't know, I want to say almost like a consultant because they're telling the clients what to do. And so the clients think that's coaching, right? And in reality, it's not. So have you seen that happen where you haven't got a client, like where they come from that type of coaching, and then they come to you coaching and they're like, wait, that this is not what I was expecting. I don't know if you can share about that.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Yes, absolutely. Most people who call themselves coaches nowadays are more like consultants, more like mentors, right? They tell you, this is what I've done, and this is what worked for me. That's a mentor. So, a consultant, you pay them to tell you how to do XYZ. And they do, they build you a plan and it's beautiful and it's wonderful. And then, but here you go, there's no accountability, right, to you doing the thing or to you or to the success by doing it in this way, right? And so that's definitely a consultant with a coach, with a true coach, you build your own accountability measures. And when you do that, you're more likely to do the thing that you want to do, whatever it is, right? Whatever your goal is, you're you hold yourself accountable. I can also be your accountability buddy, and every time we meet, I will ask you, how did it go? And then, and but that builds, right? That builds the self-accountability. Because at the end of the day, if you're not bought in to doing the thing in a certain way, you're likely not gonna do it. You know, when we're talking about why do you want to do what like why is this important to you that you accomplish this thing, I'm looking for you to dig intrinsically and tell me what intrinsic like motivation you have to achieve this goal. Because when it's external, when it's like an expectation or an external pressure, likely it's forced. Yeah, you might accomplish it because sometimes that pressure, that tension, you definitely like you could do it, but it's not in a way that it's aligned to who you are and what you really wanted to do. So I'm really looking for intrinsic motivation when we're talking and when we're discussing your goals. So, to answer your question, yes, I've gotten clients again who say, Okay, I want to do these things, tell me what to do. And I'm like, again, I'm not here to tell you what to do, I'm here to help you clarify like the goal, why it's important to you, what's getting in the way of you accomplishing this goal, and then figuring out a way, okay, like how does it feel? How would you accomplish this goal in a way that stays true to who you are? And then we dig, and then we come up with plans, etc. etc. But it's all led by the client. I'm just helping you get clear on what you want, why you want it, and how to get there.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Yeah, and I find a lot that clarity is so important because you can have a plan per se, I'm gonna do this XYZ, but if you don't have clarity within yourself, well, what's the bigger picture too, right? I've seen where there's people that are very focused on the little tasks, right? On the little things to do, and they have a to-do list and you have to do this so that I can get to YZ, but it's like, what's the clear picture? What's the bigger picture? And that high-level thinking too, as well, and not just focusing like on that right now moment, right? I think a lot of us want that quick turnaround. We want to fix this like tomorrow or even today. We want to get things done now, but it's there's more than that. There's we have to have a clear path of what the for the future because you're not just gonna do this and be done. It's gonna continue on because it's what you want. You want maybe build a legacy or whatever it is, right? And so I feel like that clarity is so important. That's a that's definitely a great place to to start, right? As as you mentioned, coaching and stuff. Another question that I have is what I've seen also programs out there with coaching where they have like the one-on-one coaching, they have group coachings. Do you what do you see works best for what type of people during those like different phases? Because I feel I think like I've been to a mix of those, and I know they have their goods and bads or the takeaways like for certain things. So I want to hear from you. What do you what do you recommend?

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah. So personally, I think that having that one-on-one coach really gets down to the nitty-gritty of what your goals are, right? When you are in a group setting, it's more like a holistic guidance, if you will, right? And but but you have to consider like everyone in the group versus the individual one-on-one. And as I mentioned earlier, when I'm coaching someone one-on-one, it's very tailored to you, right? Where a group coaching class or workshop is tailored more to the material. And if if you relate to the material or it resonates with you, then maybe it's good for you to come to that. But we're not gonna get like real deep with what your challenge is or how to achieve your goal. They both have their place, right? I can do both. I can do, I have this tool that's called it's an assessment, basically, and it's we call it the ELI, it's an energy assessment. And so with that, I we can do it individually or we can do it in a group setting, and it works well in either way. But individually, we can always talk more in depth about what's holding you back, to where if we were doing the assessment or the debrief of the assessment as a group, we could, we might get to you to have a little bit of input, but we won't be digging deep as to what else it's holding you back or what could be a really great way for you to do XYZ. And so they both have their place, but again, it's not about in either scenario, it's not about telling the person what to do in a group setting. You're more like learning concepts and how to apply it to yourself, but again, there's the one on one that's not really there, or you may have it, but like very little. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Okay, that's great, and so you

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Mention an assessment in here and it's called energy what okay, you say yes, so it's like it's the ELI, and so it's the energy leadership index assessment. And I talk a lot about energy, but for someone who doesn't really align with energy, it could be more like attitude, right? So you've seen, I'm sure you have experience with personality tests, right? Or personality assessments. Your personality is pretty set, right? There's not a lot of change that's gonna happen in your personality, but your energy or your attitude, for example, you can definitely influence, or really you have the ability to control that. And what the assessment tells us is your energy levels or your attitude state on a good day, and then on a day where you are where you perceive to be under stress. What stresses you out may not stress me out, right? So it's different for everyone, and so it gives us both profiles on a good day and on a day, or when you're when you perceive to be under stress. And so we there's seven levels of energy, and we start with the more catabolic energy levels to anabolic energy levels. So basically, what that is catabolic is like a really heavy energy, is a energy that brings you down. That the more the catabolic energy there is within you, the more stress you are under, right? And so the seven levels, you can think about it in a spectrum, right? From level one to level seven. And the higher you get to level seven, the more lighter the energy, the more, the more building up energy is what it is, right? And the less stress, right? So if your profile comes back with you have heavy, heavier energy levels down with the catabolic energy, we can bring awareness to that, right? Even when you're not under stress, you're still in this conflict state or in this disempowered state, right? And so then now that you're aware, how do we start to bring you up, provided that you choose to? Again, I'm not here to tell you what to do, I'm here to bring you into awareness. So if you realize, wow, I'm spending a lot of this catabolic energy throughout my day or whatever, I really want to get out of being so stressed. We can talk through those things. What? How can you look at the situations that happen to you with a more like opportunity lens versus like disempowerment, like this thing that is happening to you? Where can you take the power back and bring you out of those levels of catabolic energy? That's uh yeah, that's a mouthful. But yes, that's the assessment basically.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

No, that's good. And then I was trying to come up with if you could give me like a specific of what that would look like, but I guess it depends on the person, right? Because everybody, like what stresses me out might not stress you out, like at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Incredibly individual to the person, right? So in a group setting, we could go through what catabolic means, what anabolic means, what the different energy levels are, right? But I but we won't have the conversation of okay, what's how does this level show up for you? What would you do? What would you give to get out of these levels? Should you choose to like this is all choice? Yeah. The thing is that we build our habits and we just react because we've built these habits. But what would it be like if you got to choose how you show up in different instances, right? So think about it. When was the last time that you got angry, for example?

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Right?

SPEAKER_02 26:11

When's the last time you got angry? Did you choose uh the anger because it helped you or it served you? Or was it just you reacted in this way because that's what you're used to? And so that's where the awareness lies, right? If you're choosing to use to leverage your anger emotions, do it in from a place where it serves you to get angry at this moment, right? To get things moving versus this is what I'm used to, and I just react. We want to get out of this reaction mode, right? We want to choose how we show up in the world. I don't want to get angry all the time. So I started watching myself. Why when I got those angry feelings, I after I did the assessment, I was like, okay, why am I angry? What's really underneath these anger feelings? And I started to train myself, if you will, to not be so reactive. So now things that would bother me six months ago, they no longer bother me. And that is like less stress in my life.

unknown 27:17

All right.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Oh no, it really is. Yeah, no, and it's true. And a lot of it when you're talking about like when we choose, because at the end of the day, we do get to choose how we're gonna react to whatever it is. And I've seen where sometimes that anger comes out, but it could be part of buildup because that happened as well, where you're just like, and then all of a sudden it's one little thing, and then people are like, whoa, like what just happened? Like humor.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Yeah, right. And that's a reaction, right? And we're not used to choosing, right? We're not used to choosing how we react to things, and this is something that I tell my clients all the time: the only thing you have control over, and I want all your audience to hear this. The only thing you can control is your behaviors, your actions, your thoughts, and your emotions. You can't control anything outside of that. And a lot of times we sit there and we try to control things, and I'm gonna do these things so that this is the outcome. Stop. Yeah, just stop. Control your thoughts because you can control your thoughts, right? If you start going off the deep end, you can pull yourself back. You have to learn to pull yourself back, right? You can you can control the way that you show up rather than letting yourself get angry over this thing that doesn't matter at the end of the day, stop, right? In your behaviors, in your actions, you get to choose those, but a lot of times we don't. We just react and we go through the through our lives, through, through the world, just reacting.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Where's the power in that? Correct. Worry comes up. I remember reading, I think it was long time ago. I can't remember the research, but I think it was like like they say like 80% of the things you worry about never happen, yet you're spending so much time and energy on the world. So much energy, right? That it doesn't even happen. Hey, like, why torture ourselves in that sense? Right. And so your thoughts, it's very I think it's important.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

We're used to torturing ourselves. So let's teach ourselves to who wants in reality who wants to torture themselves. Yeah, probably no one. So then how do we learn ways to like bring ourselves back when we go off, when we start worrying about the future? What are you doing when you're worried about the future? You're not living in the present.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

That's right. That's right. Everybody's in a that fight or flight state all the time, tends, right? Do I do this, do I do this? And it's like once you know people are able to find that good spot, that sweet spot of being able to control what you just mentioned, all those things that helps. For me, it's like a work in work in process because it takes a long time, right? To control. I always think about it when I'm struggling with it. I'm like, okay, that's why monks are monks. Like that's they could they like want to leave in peace, but they it's not an easy thing. And you think, oh, they're so calm, they don't have to worry about. Oh no, I'm sure they have to then practice and practice to be in a certain state.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

It's not about perfection, like you'll never get to a hundred percent, like it that's just never gonna happen. But it's about lessening, right? Lessening that catabolic energy, lessening those pressures, so that that internal stress that we build on ourselves. And it's a work in progress. It's you're always practicing. It is a practice, it is not like a destination, right? It's not a destination, it's practice.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Yeah, no, that's so true. No, and I thank you for sharing all of this. Definitely, I didn't even know about that energy assessment. And I know everybody's always looking to learn about themselves, right? Want to take that little quiz, like find out who you are, something like that. I think it's very beneficial to understand the energy levels because there are in us, it's us, right? It's not something superficial, but it's really who we are. And like you said, personalities can't just hard to change. Yeah, yeah. I'm not a I'm not a big fan of personality tests, to be honest, myself. But when it comes to things that are more like aligned with kind of like something like energy, because I know that's that that's really about me, and I want to learn about that or productivity, like we're gonna be more productive. Yeah, I appreciate that. Now, is there anything else that you like? Okay, you're dying to talk about this. Is the moment where I want you to share whatever it's on your mind that you haven't touched on that you can share with us?

SPEAKER_02 31:47

No, I think that if this conversation sparks any type of curiosity, reach out to me. I always love talking to people about these things. In our culture, we're not taught to listen to ourselves, right? We got to listen to our parents, we got to listen to our tías and our tíos, right? And so if if you have ever felt that something is not like working for you, like maybe definitely give coaching a try. I think for me, it I have always felt like the rebel in my family, and finding coaching has really opened up my eyes, my own awareness. I have learned so much about who I am and what makes me, what makes me in the past couple years through coaching, and I think that's incredibly liberating when you start to listen to yourself, even if you're not an artist, right? I think a lot of times we confuse creativity with artistry, and it's not the same thing. And you or any person not being an artist doesn't mean that you're not creative. We can be creative in many different ways. For example, I think that engineers are incredibly creative, right? But they're not painting, they're not dancing, they're not singing, they're looking for ways to make things work. That is creative. I want the audience to know that every person is creative. Where is your creative magic? Like it could be in the kitchen, it could be dancing, it could be in the garden, it could be in the way you speak, right? And just finding that and connecting back to that, it's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

Yeah. Thank you so much, Cynthia. And where can people find you? Because I'm sure people are gonna be like, okay, I need to talk to Cynthia, so where do I go?

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Absolutely. So cynthiaplatero.com, C-Y-N-T-H-I-A-Platero.com. And I'm also on Instagram. I drop daily coaching nuggets on my Instagram. I try to do it daily, but sometimes it doesn't work. Life gets lifey. So it's at coaching.creatives on Instagram. And if you're a professional, I'm also on LinkedIn. So you can look me up by my name, Cynthia Platero.

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Awesome. It was such a pleasure having you and sharing your knowledge. You definitely have such a soothing voice, and not to mention the way you're you can talk to clients and that calmness. And I feel like that is so needed, especially when you come and talk to somebody, you want a place of safety where it's like neutral, where that person's there really for you. And you have that. And I appreciate you coming here on the show today. Thank you so much. And yeah, thank you so much, everyone, for joining us today. And that's all I have for you. But if you want to share this video, please do. Somebody that might need it, happy to give you more. So take care. Thank you.