Episode 17

Popeyes Problems, Jackson Family Mess, Roast Regrets & Relationship Rules.

Episode 17 is serving chaos, clarity, comedy, and a whole lot of “now why would they do that?” energy.

We begin with Around the Social Media World

A Popeyes franchisee in FL and GA is filing for bankruptcy, and the sisters have thoughts. Between the missing chicken, missing biscuits, missing employees, and missing customer service, Tiff and Aunge are convinced the downfall was written in grease-stained handwriting.

The wildly successful Michael movie has dug up old Jackson family drama — the kind that would’ve broken the internet if social media existed back then. Messy messy. Like… “Thank God there was no Instagram Live in 1984” messy.

The sisters break down the controversial Kevin Hart Roast. Yes, there were funny moments. No, that does not make a funny roast. It’s a thumbs‑down from the Hello Sister couch.

Jamie Foxx is becoming a dad again at 58, and while the sisters celebrate the blessing, they also call out the double standard: Men having kids later in life = “Congrats, King.” Women doing the same = “Are you sure?” The math is not mathing.

Next, we do a relationships deep dive. This week’s relationship segment is PACKED:

• Dondre Whitfield and the difference between males vs. men
• Maino’s podcast post on manners vs. being a gentleman
• Liking a woman vs. wanting a woman — and why women need to know the difference
• First Date Restaurant Rules inspired by @im6footseven’s viral post about a man taking home leftovers and getting ghosted The sisters lay out the rules every woman should keep in her purse next to the lip gloss.
• Then comes the college girls’ “White Women Rules to Snag a Black Baller” and Aunge drops a revelation so wild you will SCREAM.

We close with love, pride, and applause for all the 2026 graduates. You did it, and the sisters are cheering loud.

Watch to the end because the drama was on full front street this episode.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello, sister. Hello, sister. Welcome to Hello Sister Podcast with Tiffanange. This is episode 17. 17. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Great show for you today. We're going to do a little bit of around social media world. This episode, we're actually going to talk a little bit more about relationships. Okay. Lots of buzz going around, difference with men when they mature, and lots around when they get ready for relationships. So we'll spend a little bit of time there. Of course, we got a what the Florida.

unknown 0:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Here we go. And then we'll end with the R Sister salute. Yeah. You ready to get into it? Sounds good. Let's do it. Alright. Alright. So let's start off about uh around social media. All right. So, no surprise here, but there are some Popeyes that are struggling financially. Popeyes? Popeyes. Now my Popeyes is always struggling. Every time I've gone to the point where I say I'm never coming back.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Popeye's chicken has to be the best chicken with the worst service. In every state, city, and everywhere you go. I've never been to a Popeye's that I didn't pull up to the window and they said, We ain't got that. We ain't got that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

We ain't got that. You ain't got no chicken? Close down, please. Close down. Yeah. Well, they're still kicking, and from a chicken restaurant perspective across the nation, they're doing just fine. But one of their largest franchises with over 130 plus stores in Florida and Georgia just filed chapter 11. Ooh. Yep. So they've already closed 20 plus stores and they're noting that they're underperforming. So they're citing rising food costs, inflation, high interest rates, competition, and declining foot traffic. But the brand is still strong within itself, but some of the franchises are starting to struggle. I know. Get better service. Yeah. I mean, I would I wholeheartedly crave chicken. I'm a stereotype. I crave chicken every single day. And if they had good service, I don't even care what it costs. I would be going there. But I already know every time I go to that drive-thru, one, it's going to take forever for them to come. Yeah. Two, I want the same thing: a two-piece and a biscuit. And a biscuit. And you know what? It's going to be an hour wait, or they're not going to have what I want.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

And I'm stuck because there's a line. So there's a car in front of me and a car behind me. They don't even ask me spicy or mild anymore. They just give me whatever they got. You know what? And they give me the attitude. So for me, it's a no for Popeye's. I wish them well. I hope the the franchise owner is able to recover. But until they get the service together, mine here locally can cut it. There's never a line, and they have restaurants and stores all around them, and there's never a line. Why is that? At some point, you got to stop and say, This is this is us. Right. And and most people these days, we understand inflation, we understand rising costs. We can't afford it, but we're still out here eating fast food. So if it costs McDonald's money to pay $12 for a value meal, you think I'm not going to do that at Popeye's for a real meal? Right. Yeah. I would. But not if I have to go through mama and them, auntie and them, cousin and them, and get the service that I get. I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Not auntie and them.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Auntie and M. Cousin and them. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Yeah, I wish them the best, but I I don't go back because of the service. Either you have terrible service, slow service, or you're out of everything I want, and it's not worth the hassle. So I don't go back to Popeye's. Um, but I wish them the best. They're people who love it.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

I mean, the food, nobody can ever say that they chicken don't bang. If you say that, you're lying. Yeah, you lying. But everyone has a Popeye story, and everybody has a Popeye story.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Not everybody has a spirit and a Popeye story.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Spirit and Popeye story, child. I will shout out there was one near the parents' house in Virginia off Mechanicsville. Sean and I had the best experience we've ever had. Excellent customer service. They did not have chicken ready, which just blows my mind. But she gave us a free drink. She talked to us. She was social. She made us feel like we were just having an experience while we waited. Therefore, it was okay. Unicorn. It was the unicorn. I've never had another experience like it. So shout out to her. I wish I got her name, but outside of them, done.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

R.I.P.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

R.I.P. Yep. Alright, let's keep it moving. So Michael movie is doing phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

It is. I am so excited. It's still doing phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Like to the point where I'm ready to go back and actually enjoy the movie. Because you know, the first time you go see it, it's good and you react to it with your first reactions, but you don't catch all the moments.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

So I definitely want to go back and check it out again.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Yep. I'm going to go back on a Tuesday. You got $5 movie Tuesdays. Uh-uh. I'm going to go back on a Tuesday and I'm going to go see it without the kids because in the movie they wanted to sing with me and dance with me and pull on my face and sit in my lap. I I enjoyed it, but I didn't get to actually see every part. So I'm going to go back and watch it alone on a Tuesday. Yes. On a school day.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Yeah, I think that would be a fantastic idea to catch those moments. For sure. But in the midst of all of this, of course, the things that happened in the past, in particular with the Jacksons, Jafar's mom, are starting to resurface in family drama. And there's nothing anything new. I mean, Jafar isn't a a child anymore, but the drama centered around his mama is definitely circulating again. So we all know that Jafar's mom, Alejandro, is the other, has other several Jackson children. She was romantically involved with Randy and Jermaine, um, and in total has five kids between the two brothers. So the brother cousins is out here, brother cousining.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Well, I so we didn't grow up in a time where social media was big and we didn't have to worry about things getting caught on camera. So now all of these stories were either like rumored or captured uh by somebody that was like a bystander, and then they reported it to the tabloids. So thankfully for them, there's no like real pictures and videos of the madness, but they're not the only ones with wild drama. I heard a Jackie Jackson story that blew my mind. What? I don't know about this one. I'm telling you, like, there's just so many juicy tidbits about the family that starting to resurface. I mean, they've got other celebrities involved like Paula Abdul. You've got to go read their story. Yeah. It's just so much, and and I think it's all trying to overshadow the beautiful movie that we just saw. Yeah. And people are like, Yeah, that's a beautiful movie. And you remember the time? Do you remember the time?

SPEAKER_02 7:04

I had a brother cousin.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Oh, you know what? And not a single person said that. Not a single person said that.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Don't do that. You want to hear something funny? Yeah. So again, all things circulating. So the brothers are older, and Marlon, Jermaine, and Jackie were playing around and they were doing a song in the booth. And uh Tito was coaching them outside the booth, and they were joking around. And he was like, you know, y'all, come on, get serious now. And then one of them sang flat, and Tito was like, yo, y'all singing flatter than your girl's booty. Like, y'all, you need to get it together. And he kept telling them, y'all get serious, y'all get serious. And then Marlon said, He just like his daddy. Just like his daddy.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

See, y'all playing around as adults. I can't even imagine what y'all was doing as a kid. Right. Not that Joe Jackson was, you know, appropriate, but can you imagine rallying them boys up in the booth as teenagers? I got two boys. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

They're not even teenagers yet. I can't even imagine having that many boys. Hilarious. They think they're gonna be a basketball team or a singer group. They're gonna do something.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

They're gonna do something. Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

I told my boys, I ain't paying for college. You better pick up a ball or a book. Or maybe come become a comedian. Okay, pick up a ball or a book or some jokes. Yeah. I still like paying for college.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Okay. Speaking of jokes, did you watch Kevin Hart's uh roast? I did. What'd you think? What's that mean?

SPEAKER_01 8:40

So tell me about it. It wasn't funny.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

It was funny parts. It had some funny parts, but it wasn't funny. Alright, so think about it this way. Okay. We grew up in the 80s and the 90s. Yeah. And we used to roast each other. Immediately. Okay? The your mama jokes, your mama so fat, your mama ho. Like everything was your mama. And things were so funny. It was so funny that you didn't even get mad at your friend because it was so funny. Yeah. Right? And if something won't funny, that's when you fight. Yeah. And it's to me, it just seemed mean-spirited. It didn't seem like it was funny.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Yeah, I wouldn't know who the writers are. That's what I need to go research. And they clearly had writers that told stingy jokes. Seriously.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

And so the second part I also think about is, you know, our friends used to tell the yo mama jokes, and the white boys used to always try to jump in and tell the jokes. And they were jumping into a space that they didn't understand, so it wasn't funny. Right. That's what it really felt like. It was it felt like they was jumping into, and I know a lot of white boys that got their feelings or themselves hurt trying to be in spaces that they don't understand. And when you're roasting a black comedian, your audience is going to be a black audience.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

And I don't think they understood that. And that's why I feel like Cheryl Underwood was the only one that was like hilarious. And she's the only one that got a standing ovation because she understood the assignment.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

Yeah, well, I think people also felt like dang it coming at her hard. So for her to understand the assignment, show up the way she did, give it to them the way she did, it was actually really, really funny. Yeah, but it's hilarious. Her part to me was really funny. But I hated the jokes that they made about her. And it had nothing, you know, it wasn't funny. Black woman jokes are just black woman jokes.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

But we already know the words, the targets they're coming. Period.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

But the whole, you know, her husband died. Like, if you have to call a person to say, hey, I want to do this, but it may be a little too much, maybe don't. Just don't do it. Yeah, she has enough material for you to joke on. Even the looks part to me was a a little extra, but even that's okay compared to just some of the stingy things.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

It was an obvious joke.

unknown 10:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Cheryl Underwood makes fun of herself for not being attractive. Yeah. So it's an obvious joke.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Yes.

unknown 10:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

It's an obvious joke. Tell a tell a good joke. And so she and Chelsea Hanler went on the Don Lemon show afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Did they?

SPEAKER_01 11:06

And um, you know, they said that they had an incredible night. They said it was a lot of fun. They enjoyed themselves. It was an incredible night.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Good.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

They just found that the jokes weren't funny.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

And you know, they they tried their best to be funny. And I thought the two of them were hilarious. The two of them and Kat Williams.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Cat Williams coming out was a good surprise.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Not only was that a great surprise, but he was hilarious. He was.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

He actually brought some humor to it, but that's what you expect from Kat. I do. And I'm sure he censored himself because he probably wanted to go there. But that check was good. That check was good. He was like, oh, I'm gonna roast you for fun and not roast you for it. I ain't gonna roast you for fun. All of it was cringy. It was very cringy to me. It was unnecessary and cringy. The writers were horrible, and I say fire them all. Every one of them. Yep. But you know what? Kevin Hart isn't that funny to me anymore. So I appreciate him, but this was a reflection, in my opinion, of just how he shows up and you know, he really needs to get that together because he he was funny at one point. He's stretching himself through Twitter. He's stretching, he's stretching and selling a little too much, and it's not necessary.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Yeah, he's got uh podcasts, he's doing movies, he's doing TV shows, he's got the liquor, he's got fabletics, he's doing commercials. Like it's just we know you're famous. Yeah, focus on one thing, be great at one thing, or a company. No, but I'm saying like he has so much going on that he doesn't have to. Yeah. And you're already independently wealthy right now, and you have gener created generational wealth. Congratulations. Now spend some time with your family and sit down somewhere because the spit ain't funny no more.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Yeah. I think that's the the bad part, is you're starting to move in a direction that's losing you base that you want to keep. So agreed. Well, it wasn't a good look for him.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

I sure didn't laugh the whole time. That's another thing.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

What are you supposed to do? If you're getting roasted and it's pre-approved jokes, and you're, you know, these people are paid to be there, clearly. What are you supposed to do? Even if it made him uncomfortable, it'd be hard for him to sit up and like say, time out, y'all. This is going too far. Like you, you, you needed to pre-approve doing that stuff, or else you do gotta go with the flow. Yeah, but why did he laugh at the George Floyd joke? That was definitely too far for me.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

Like, nobody would have falted him if he would have been like, uh.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

But he laughed. He was in the moment drinking all that tequila. Anyway, but he's he's still got us talking about him, so clearly I guess. We are still talking about him. But this is it. I have nothing else to give. You're right. Turn the channel, don't want to see it again. Yeah, I'll never watch it again. Yeah. Moving on. Moving on. Well, speaking of moving on, let's talk a little bit about Jamie Foxx.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Yes. So Jamie Foxx, Eric Bishop. My boy is 58 years old, and he is expecting his third baby with his third baby mama. And she is 31. Yes, yeah. Social media is in a chokehold. You know, rev you remember, you know, well, one people are in the chokehole because of Jamie's preferences. Um, they have a um similar characteristic and pattern. Uh he also just literally did his comeback comedy show and made it a point to say who he was done with and and and that he was not going back to that. And so here we go, circling the block, and baby mama number three with the same characteristic and pattern. So I'm less concerned about the characteristic and the pattern. For me, it's you 58. She's 31. Your daughter is the same age.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

E. E. You know, it's funny how they celebrate these older men for having children and that their their junk still works. Congratulations. We we know it works far beyond the of a woman. Right. Um, don't you want qualities time with your kids? Like high school graduations, college graduations, like I don't know. And and it's not just him. Like the 58 annoys me, but I think about somebody like Al Pacino, who had his last kid at 83. 80. With a uh Robert De Niro had his last child at 79.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

With a toddler.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Uh Nick Jagger at 73. With a toddler. Yeah. Richard Gere, 70.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

So all of these men are unconcerned about spending quality time with their children. They're more concerned with spreading the seed. It's disgusting to me. And not that they shouldn't be doing it, do it. But why why haven't you snipped tucked everything?

SPEAKER_00 15:54

I think that's probably the better question. Because I don't believe that any of these kids are intentionally, you know.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

I I do think that they are self- all of them have younger wives. All of them are dating women who are in childbearing years. Yeah. It's not like they just randomly found a 70-year-old woman who got pregnant. No, these are women in their childbearing years. You are choosing these women, and I'm sure they do want children, and they can financially take care of them. I don't have a problem with that. You can handle your responsibilities, you do what you want to do. But the quality of time that you're gonna get with your children is also important. So we give a really horrible stigma to children who don't have fathers in their lives. It's not just because dad walked away, it's because dad is having them older. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

That is another avenue of issue, too.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

So do what you want to do. I'm gonna mind my business. I'm gonna talk about you on my podcast because it's my podcast. But I just I think it's selfish to uh at least not be around for your children long enough into their lives to where they want to get married. Who who's gonna walk their them down the aisle?

SPEAKER_00 17:05

It's not gonna be you. Yeah, it's definitely some um different moments. But good news is these women will be set for life, these kids will be set for life, so they're at least will have a good life of financial stability. Yeah. And good luck to him. Maybe he'll get a boy. His other two are girls, so maybe he will get a boy. Either way, have a healthy children are blessings. Yes, have a baby, but it is a little sickening as you think about these age gaps and having dating someone at your kids' age. Like that's like looking at your I can't. I can't.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

I know. And and they crucify women for having children later and fulfilling their dreams later. And these men are celebrated. It's just it's disgusting. I know, like Cameron Diaz had her last child at 53, and I I don't knock anyone who wants to be a mom, and that's not a big deal. But she's 53, she can have 30, 40, 50 more years with her child. Yeah. At 83, how many more how many more years you got? Yeah, the Reaper is definitely knocking. You can be a hundred when your child graduates from high school or not.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

What are we talking about? Yeah, much different. Um I just good luck, Jamie. Yeah, yeah. Well, speaking of relationships, let's switch gears. Please get away from this because we can go on and on forever. We could. So, lots going around social media around relationships in general. And Dondre Whitfield, who I love, has lately been talking about his new book that he's selling, Male versus Men. So basically, ladies are looking for sponsors versus spouses, and how do you know if you're dealing with or how do you nail down and don't fall into a trap? So he says that males look to serve, males look to be served where men look to be of service. Males have the shinier stuff that they make the most noise, and that traditionally is what attracts women, but the men are looking to figure out how do they best come to you, attract you, show you the value, and want to marry you. So the goal is to help women to understand how do you distinguish and what you can actually get and the difference of dating a male versus a man.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

I appreciate him putting it out there. Um it it reminds me so much of the Steve Harvey era where it was the think like a man era. And I think this is kind of the updated version of it. That what does it look like in 2026 in our world and our climate nail? Um, so I appreciate that he's putting it out there because sometimes we just need to know what the signs are, and you know, I appreciate that there is a man who is actually saying it, and he is getting a lot of heat from men, and it has been very, very entertaining. Um I'm just gonna put this out there. Uh, we did a segment of Is It Cheating If? And one of our segments um went wild. Yes, it did. And uh I was so surprised at the comments that are still going. That are still going. But I was very surprised at the comments, and it was a lot of men in there with the uh, it was the one about the barbecue, the girl made the plate at the barbecue. And a lot of men were, why didn't you make the plate first? How did she beat you to it? And I was like, you know, uh-huh, you know, we always gonna have those guys in the group. But then all of a sudden it got weird. It was like, oh, they hoes. Oh, they wild hoes, they old hoes. I ain't never been called a hoe in so many ways in my life. And the comments get really dark, and I don't know if it's people trolling or if it's just people who are serious about the way that they feel. Um, but I I didn't even get down the entire rabbit hole of the comments in his section because there are a lot of men, I hope they're bots, but there are a lot of men who are just going in. Yeah. And they don't agree with him. And they're very vocal about not agreeing.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Yeah. Well, I appreciated Steve Harvey. My husband is a product of Steve Harvey's health. And it was less about get to him, it was more about me and me processing my approach, what I how I looked at relationships and what I really wanted. I look at his book the same way. Yeah. There are women who just want sponsors. If that's what you want, go on with your mail. But if you're looking to get married, there are key things and ways that people show up that I think Dondre did a great job of describing. So shout out to him, because you know, we can use all the help we can get. We can. The pool is brown. I was getting my hair done today.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Whatever. Um shout out to Tavonda. I love her. But um I was getting my hair done today, and you know, we We were exchanging some stories.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

There ain't no hope out here. No, no, there is hope. Ain't no hope. There is hope. There ain't no hope. You gotta stay positive. Hang in there.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

I'm trying, but ain't no hope.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Yeah, hang in there, sister.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Man, and and I appreciate a man actually exposing that. And hopefully, it educates some other men to say, like, okay, I've been exhibiting male behavior, you know, it's time for me to be a man.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

I don't think men reflect that way. And it's funny because women do that all the time. We get together in groups, we talk about how we can be better, we try to heal ourselves, we support each other, we read the books. And I don't think men do that. I don't know. Maybe he should put together like a group of mentors.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

That's definitely what's missing.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

I mean, I don't know. You gotta be able to willing to, you know, recognize it, humble yourself, be open to the process. Yeah. Well, shout out to him because I think he can do it. If anybody can do it, he has a platform too. If anybody can do it, he can do it. Yeah. Don't get it for us.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

In addition, help us out, please. Well, in addition to him, uh, Maino, you know, Mayno, uh he shared on his podcast, Let's Rap About It, that there is a difference between mannerisms and excuse me, sorry, manners and being a gentleman. And he wasn't taught how to be a gentleman until he was much older. He was a grown man. And he shared that being a gentleman is a step up, like manners are pretty much, you know, just being nice, saying thank you, the things that people normally do. But being a gentleman is slightly different, like opening the door, being thoughtful for the woman. And so it's funny because he's debating on the show, but he's actually recognizing that there is a difference in how you can show up being a gentleman compared to just basic manners.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Yeah. I wholeheartedly agree.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

And so I think we've talked about this before. Manners are if you open a door and you see somebody coming behind you, you hold the door open. Right. Being a gentleman is seeing a woman coming up behind you and having the forethought to open the door for her to go through first and then entering behind her. I think that's the difference between being a gentleman and having manners. Because anybody can hold the door open, but the gentleman part is additional forethought.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Yes. Totally agree. Totally agree. Two stories.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

So I was on my way to a Martin Luther King breakfast, Black Excellence in Tampa coming. It was a pretty far walk from the parking lot to where the breakfast was being held, and there was a major street that we had to cross. This brother came up to me behind me. I had on heels, I was looking good, I had a pretty dress on. He came up behind me, put his hand on my back, helped me across the street, opened the door, and kept it pushing. He didn't ask for my number. Nope. He didn't try to be inappropriate. He didn't touch me somewhere that I felt uncomfortable. He was a gentleman. He intentionally wanted to make sure a sister going to where he was going was good. Yes. That was it.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

That was a gentleman. That was a gentleman. I I I and he didn't want anything in return. No, there was nothing. That's the gentleman part of it. Yeah. And he didn't find you later or anything.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

No, I mean I smiled, I he ended up sitting like two tables from me, and this place had like 500 people. So it was funny just that he was sitting, you know, two tables down from me, and we just smiled at each other, and then um, you know, what about our business? I never saw him again. Yeah. Yeah. Gentlemen. I love that. Yes. My other story is I was talking to one of my girlfriends, and I was talking about men who hold the door for you. And she was like, I don't need that. And I was like, Well, I don't need that. Like, I can open my own door. I got two hands, two feet. Like I can walk up and hold my own door. Right. But what I told her the reason I do that is because you're training and conditioning on the thoughtfulness that if you're thoughtful around, is she good? You're gonna do that there. You're gonna do that in other places, you're gonna do that in other spaces. Yeah, and to this day. I mean, I we just grew up in a house where daddy opened doors. Don't you bet not with our brother? You better not catch a door.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

It's it's almost annoying how much of a gentleman he is, like slapping hands away from doors, get out the car and let me put you back in. Like it's almost sickening, yeah. But I appreciate it so much.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Yes, and for me, as even a wife today, I will stand by the door if you forget, because it's the conditioning of you know the thoughtfulness. And so I've come from a space where if you're thoughtful about me, traditionally you'll be thoughtful in other spaces and places that it continues on, and being a gentleman is important. So, ladies, let him do that for you, or say that that's something that you appreciate and be very appreciative, by the way. Yes, be be very appreciative. I I never not say thank you. Yeah, but it is important to um make sure that you know they're being a gentleman.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

I I really appreciate the fact that you said I have two hands, I have two feet, I can do it myself, of course, but allowing him to be a gentleman puts him in a position to actually do it. And if you do it all the time and you're stepping over him all the time, at some point he's gonna be like, Oh, well, this isn't something that she wants. So let me just go ahead and treat her to opening my door. So yeah. Yeah. That's a whole different conversation, and I'm not I'm not doing that today. Oh yeah. No, we're not doing that princess treatment, men princess treatment. We're not doing that. No. Not today.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

No. But there is a difference from a man liking versus wanting you. And how I see liking you is is just useless. You wanting and waiting to text me, you don't plan a date, you barely touch base, you only want to come over, you want me to cook for you and chill, is straight up lip service. Like, why liking me does nothing. Telling me you like me is absolutely a useless action. Now telling me you want me. Okay. That's engagement. That's thinking of me, that's extra effort, that's clear communication, that's sharing intentions. That's you telling me that you want to be married and hopefully to be. You're not wasting summers on people who like you. Right. Like actions speak louder than words, and wanting me shows up differently than liking me.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

I agree. I'm not gonna be flattered by the bare minimum. Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Absolutely not. And so we we if if I ain't shows you by the way, I date you. You do. Because I like to be outside and I like to be outside with you.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

I appreciate you so much. Yeah, I really do, but like settling for the bare minimum is isn't of I want to come over, I never want to take you out. Like, I just I could never settle for that again. That's not fun to me. Now I am a homebody and I appreciate being at home, but I also know that if I'm trying to get to know you and I'm trying to court you and date you, I need to see what you're like out. I need to see what you're like at at a restaurant. How do you treat the service? Like, I need to know that. I need to know what you're like on vacation. Yeah, where do you like to vacation? Yeah, are you a person that's gonna sit in the room and we're just there and we're gonna look at the scenery, or are we gonna actually do things? Are we going to museums or are we just that you're using? So, like, all those things are are things that I will never compromise on. So, having a guy like me and not put in the effort, I'd rather just be alone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Well, I'd rather you just be alone because that sounds horrible. I I appreciate that. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about dating rules. So I am six foot seven on social media, had an incredible video. It was going in one direction and then took a total left turn. Tull left turn. And it was pretty much about dating rules. So scenario was man took girl out on a date. He played in the restaurant, they got there, it was a nice restaurant, so he picked a great place. And the woman said what she was going to order, which was something simple. He was aligned, and then when the waiter came, she ordered caviar, bottles of wine, surf and turf. Like the meal was over $200. So before I get into part two of that, is there a cap when you go out to dinner with someone? Like, is there an expectation of what the person will get or not get when you go out on a date? And is it whose fault is it if you order something crazy?

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Yeah. So my dating rule number one, yeah, I will never accept to go to a restaurant that I cannot pay for myself. Facts. And I'll tell you why. Two reasons. I went on a date way back in college. This man took me to a fantastic restaurant, and he was horrible. He was awful to me. I wanted to leave so badly that I paid for the meal and left. It was awful. He was just so disrespectful and he was touching me and stuff. I'm like, this is this is our first date. And if this is how you're gonna act, I'm not gonna accept it. I knew back then I did not feel comfortable and I had to get out of there. So after that, my number one rule: I will not accept a date from a man at a restaurant that I cannot pay for myself. Fair. So knowing that when I choose my entree selections, I choose what I can afford.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I choose what I want and I choose what I can afford.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

So understanding that if I have to split the check, I'll never see you again. But if I have to split the check, I can afford my portion of it. Right. So dating rule number one, go to and pick what you can afford.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Fair.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

That's my rule number one.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

But the second part of this scenario. Let me add to the first part. Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

I just think that there's some inconsideration to go and order things that you would not order. Like, I don't believe that this woman would have gotten that on her own. And so whether she could afford it or not, like there's still something around being moderate and modest, first impression. So I just I find it weird that a woman would say, Oh, great, let me take advantage of this. I'm gonna get all the things I want to get. Like, that's just odd to me. She didn't want to date him.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Clearly. She she was getting a meal. She was not going there for a date.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Yeah, that's just very odd to me. Women don't do that. It's such a waste.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

And it and it makes it us all look bad. Like we that's what we all want. That's not what we want. No, that's not how we behave. Yeah. You women now, sir, you need a better picker.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

That's he picked a female.

unknown 32:48

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Versus a woman. And not a woman. Pick the female. Exactly. But still, like, why she didn't want all that food.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

No, caviar plus surf and turf plus bottles of wine. Like, come on, man. Well, not only did she not want the food, let's get into the second part.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

And the the second part was where he was upset and he was asking, was he wrong? Was should he take home the leftovers? And she told him she will never go out on a date with him again, and she wouldn't even let him take her home because he took home the leftovers.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Yeah, so she ordered all the food. When the food came, she barely ate any of it. And was gonna leave it. And was gonna leave it and let the wait staff take it and she was done with it. And she got mad at him because he said, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, box that up. Right. I'm gonna go ahead and take that. It's good food that was barely touched. I'm gonna go ahead and take that. Right. And she thought that that was disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

You know, again, she already didn't want to be out on a date with him. I think that was an excuse to never have to call him again. Um, but second of all, who wasted food like that? Yeah. I mean, that's good leftovers. What are we talking about here?

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Yeah. You wasted food? I I'll be honest, I am not a huge leftover person. But I also don't order significantly over what I'm planning to eat. Exactly. And if I do, I always bring the leftovers on because somebody in the house is gonna eat it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

And that's the thing that should show a lot about her character. Yeah. That she's willing to waste.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

The reaction, the the willing to waste and the reaction to him having a preference to not waste was very immature.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Yeah, so don't do what I say or don't do what I prefer, and I'll never go out with you again.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Yeah. What I hated though is it felt like it left him very bitter. And that was a terrible experience for him that the next woman has to walk into. And so we wonder why some men show up the way that they do. Well, it's residuals. Right. So go heal, sir, and then go to the next one and have a better picker.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Well, this is a very unpopular opinion. And I know you don't agree with me.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

Oh, if you gotta say that, you know already.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

I wholeheartedly believe in coffee first dates. Oh, I agree. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

I agree. Don't waste, I don't want to be locked into a dinner for an hour and a half, two hours with you at a nice restaurant if I don't even know if I'm filming you. Yeah. Coffee, a park, a walk, I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

And I I'd like to talk to you on the phone a couple of times before I will agree to the coffee date. I want to know if we're not wasting our time. And I can tell in a couple of conversations if I'm interested or not. We're not even gonna get to dinner if I'm not already interested in you.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

Yeah, I'm all for ice cream, dessert, yeah, coffee, quick, easy snippets of time to build up to a nice restaurant.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

Yes, yeah. I agree. I just you you're not gonna impress me by taking me somewhere super expensive. I told you it's impressed me, but it doesn't impress me like that. You're not gonna get uh extra points for taking me to the most expensive restaurant in town because a bad meal is a bad meal. If I don't like you, you just wasted money on a bad meal.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

And if you think about how many relationships work, you're gonna waste money on a bad meal.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yeah. Now, if that's where you're gonna eat anyway, and you're just taking me to where you're already eating, cool, but don't do it to try to impress me. Because a lot of these dudes are putting these on their credit card, and now you got a fourteen hundred dollar bill on your credit card for four dates. For now, I I just thought the whole scenario was ugly. I thought that it was awful the way that she treated him, and it was a bad representation of women who are really truly trying to date. But it is also a lesson to him. You need to have a better picker. Yeah, you said you had a little bit of extra money and you wanted to splurge on this young lady. How much time did you invest in talking to her before you took her to an expensive restaurant?

SPEAKER_02 36:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

Like, women want you to plan dates and women want you to be thoughtful, but have a conversation first. If you're trying to build something real, you have to talk first. You have to talk on the phone, you can FaceTime now. Like, do that. But you mad because you had a conversation with her for 30 seconds, asked her on an expensive date, and she turned out to be a jerk.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

That's all both y'all. Yeah. He'd definitely take some some ownership. Seriously. Well, speaking of taking ownership, did you see um the college girls who created and shared the white women rules to snag a black baller? God. They knew exactly what was up, they had a whole plan.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Okay, go ahead and say what you're gonna say, because I have a statement that I'd like to make.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

Okay, don't get me in trouble now. Please continue. All right. So there is a group of college girls who created and have been sharing what they consider the rules of engagement of snagging a black, intentionally black baller. Um, and someone leaked it. Good. So I'm not gonna read all the rules, but here's some of the rules. Make sure that he knows that he is the prize. Cheating is okay if it's a fling. Let it go. Be an asset to him, do his homework, full his clothes, never embarrass him. Go wild on him in the bed whenever he wants it. Always keep yourself made up and looking great and push for marriage quickly and try to have at least two kids. The list goes on, but that was just some that was on the list. The intention of this is to snag a black baller. Now, some of these things from a relationship perspective are things we should be doing anyway, but intentionally putting yourself in position to be thought of in a way that they see you this way for the intention of trapping them. That's that's what this is. And these are college girls, so and you're doing all of this with no guarantees, no guarantees, and with the intention of snagging them. What's up?

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Should have been a hoe. I should have been a hoe. I should have just taken the trap. I should have found me a bumble. I should have done his homework and folded his laundry and put it down in the bedroom. I should have been a hoe.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

No, because one of these little girls will candy across and stole you, told me mad before. Seriously, like when I heard that.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

I mean, this is this is ridiculous. I I hope their parents are just so embarrassed. I know. Golly, you just on national TV got yourself outed for trying to snack a black baller.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

I know that was the thing that got me. On Beyonce's internet, you got leaked, your name and everything of what you were trying to do to intentionally get a black baller. Not Tom Brady, which I'm sure they probably use the same rules, but I'll take it. This was intentional to get a black baller.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

Call me Tom. No, I mean, I just feel like it's ridiculous. Like what I think what you said is right. There are some things on the list that you already will do for a person that you are really truly in love with. I'm not doing your homework, but I'm gonna help you with your homework. We can sit on your bed and fold your laundry together.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

If we are sleeping together, I'm gonna put it down in the bedroom. Like those are things that are already gonna do. So why don't you find somebody who you like? Why does he have to be a baller?

SPEAKER_00 40:44

There are men what you can get from them.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

But there are men in high-paying career fields. Get you a nerd.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Well, I mean, now as an adult looking business, we know the technology and programming and some of these things are husband material.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Right, right. So, how do you want to spend your life like that? Like always blitzing the fan.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

Fame. Yeah, this was an intentional manipulation, and I hope that every one of these guys are smart enough to see through it, and then we wonder why we get treated the way we do.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

No, the way that they're talking, the way that they're saying, like, be everything to him. Yeah, he probably loves it.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

He's trapped, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Got him, got him.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Should have been a hoe.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

Should have been a hoe.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

Like, man, my body back in the day. Yeah, you didn't have that banging body. Man, I've had the same body for 40 years, which is so beautiful. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 41:46

Still, I mean, I I could have easily gone the hoe route. That would have been great. We was around some athletes. But I wanted love and substance. Yeah. And I still want to choose love and substance. Focus on the substance.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

Good luck. Got the because this is what you're competing against. I should have been crazy. Well, speaking of crazy, what you got from me for what the Florida?

SPEAKER_01 42:11

This whole episode has been crazy. This is may as well keep it going. What the Florida? Keep the wild going. What the Florida? I'm gonna read this so you can hear it the way that I read it. Because this is wild. A 13-year-old Deerfield Beach middle school student has been arrested for making a false report to 911 dispatchers after losing a game of rock, paper, scissors.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Come on.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

How old? 13. All right, please keep going. According to the Broward Sheriff's Office, a caller told dispatchers they were about to shoot up the school. What? The school was put on lockdown while sheriff sheriffs and detectives investigated, and they found a student who later admitted to detectives that he was playing a game of rock, paper, scissors, and if he lost, he would have to call 911 with the threat. He was charged with unlawful use of a two-way communication device, misuse of 911, disruption of a school function, and a felony charge for making a false report concerning the use of a firearm in a vient violent manner.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

What in the world? We are doomed. We are doomed. This is the decisions that children are making these days. Like we was going black knock on doors. Right. Toilet papers and trees. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

We won worst case egg house. Call 911 and threaten to shoot the school. Whose idea was this? And multiple agreement. Everybody agreed. They played the game. And he ever did. That's crazy. He sure did. And um he is now a 13 year old charged as an adult for felony uh charged. Of making a false report concerning the use of a firearm in a violent manner. Oh, Florida.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

What the Florida? This is the Florida kids. Yeah. This is our future. This is our future. We're doomed. I mean, I think that we just need to say we're doomed. So it's the next generation of idiots.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

What? The Florida.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

I can't. Yeah. Well. Florida never stops slaughtering. And this is a great example of that. Got plenty more. Hija wives, hi to kids. This is what we're dealing with.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

This is what we're dealing with.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

Crazy.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

Well, believe it or not, that's the end of our show. Please proceed with the drink. Okay. Please. This makes you want to drink. So today we are drinking a dirty Shirley. Oh. So Shirley Temples, Sprite, and Cherry Grenadine. Today we made it dirty. Did it? We added a little light rum to it. So I have Star African Light Rum. Goes down super smooth. And when it's mixed with some other things, it's really good. So cherry, African rum, cherries, and sprite.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Lovely. Let's try.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Dirty Shirley. Cheers. Cheers, sister. Mm-hmm. Tell me that ain't good.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

You don't like it? It's interesting. I mean, I like it. I just I wouldn't make it my drink of choice, but I like it.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Well, I love me as Shirley Temple. I do. Add a little good rum in it. You got me.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

I think I think it's the soda part. Yeah. Like I can't wrap my head around drinking soda. You don't really drink soda. I don't. Yeah. I do. It is tasty. Yes. Thank you. Your your dirty Shirley is tasty. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

Well, while you have the cup in your hand. Oh, okay. Let's go ahead and salute too. So May is a fantastic time.

SPEAKER_01 45:49

Yes. Not only is it my birthday month, but what else happens?

SPEAKER_00 45:52

And we have been celebrating.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

But May is also a glorious month of graduations. And so I have people close to me, one of my line sister's daughter, my friend Georgie, people who are graduating. Shaquille O'Neal graduated. Speaking of which, Shaquille O'Neal, when he had his name called, he said, uh, Shaquille, I hate Charles Barclay O'Neill. He had his name called.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

That's hilarious. Side note, um, I met his mom um at the uh foundation dinner that she does every year in honor of her mother. I love that. She's so sweet. I know she is. I know she is. She's the sweetest lady. So uh yeah, he comes from good stock. Yes, he does. He's silly as Al in the way, but he comes from good stock. He is.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

Well, appreciate everyone for continuing their education for the support that rallies behind them. So to our 2026 graduates, cheers to you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep, that is. All right, sister, what's that time? So, definitely want to thank you all for another great episode. We're gonna send you out like we always do to the sister who dared, to the sister who cared, to the sister who said yes to herself. We see you, we celebrate you, and we salute to you. Cheers. Love you, sister. Love you, sister. Yes, another one in the books.