The X-Men TAS Podcast: Days of Past Future

X-Men 97 is back and so is the X-Men TAS Podcast! Let's jump right into and discuss...

• Wondering just how this new  Apocalypse story line fits in with the overall series continuity!
• Figuring out who Mother Askani is and then spoiling it for those who don't know!
• Why X-Men TAS is probably the best thing Marvel has made in 35 years!
• Previewing the fact that will confuse Sunfire and Sunspot for the rest of the show's existence!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Welcome to the X-Men Task Podcast. My name is Willie Simpson.

SPEAKER_01 0:10

My name is Sonia Rappaport.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Sonia, we are back. We are back to podcasting, and we're back with X-Men 97 Season 2. Who thought it would ever arrive? Yet here it is on July 1st, 2026, with three episodes dropped in one day. It is a lot of work for us today, for sure. But we will be here for everyone as we go through the three episodes, starting with the first one here, Days of Past Future.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Clever.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Clever, right. Yeah. Before we get into that, and a whole lot more, just a reminder, check our show notes for all our uh social media links, how you can contact us, uh, how you can donate to us. We appreciate everyone who does just that. Sonia, X-Men 97 season two has arrived after a near eternity of being away. Um, general first thoughts right off the bat, what do you got for me?

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Wow. Now, uh to uh let people peek behind the curtain here. Sonia's only seen the first episode. I've seen all three. I had to watch them earlier this morning and prep and take all the notes, and Sonia's busy working. So we're me and Sonia now, I'm I'm watching for myself, it's a second time, for Sonya, it's the first time, and then we're watching, recording, watching, recording. Uh that's what's happening right now. Right. So I know a little more than you.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Yeah, you know it's coming a little bit. Right. I don't really. You know, the first thing I thought about this was after our last podcast recording where we talked about disclosure day.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

I ended up feeling like we nitpick a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

There's a lot of stuff that we just don't like.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Or like we like it while we're watching it, we have fun, but like ultimately when we really sit down and like reflect on it, yeah. We have so many problems with so many things out there, which like is a little bit stupid because it's not like you and I are able to make movies and TV shows that are of excellent caliber. Like if we tried to make something at the level of like a movie or TV show, it would be absolute garbage. So it is a little bit stupid for us to be nitpicking in that way. However, like plot inconsistencies and just like logical fallacies really stick in my craw. And I just started feeling like, man, I'm such a complainer, you know, like it's not cool. I should be positive. When I watched this episode, I was like, this is great. I don't need to be a nitpicky complainer. Yeah, I'm I'm thoroughly enjoying this. Um like I don't know, if there are logical fallacies, I'm not picking them out.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

It's it's X-Men Cinema.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

I can just be happy and cheerful for once.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Right. It's it's it's cinematic, these episodes, my impression. Uh I don't I don't detect any quality slippage between season one and season two, which I know is a concern because it got rid of Bodomeo, whose name's all over the credits, and I think he co-wrote the third episode. He his name might be on future episodes too, I have no idea. So he's not like entirely gone. So and also it's like I just remember when they were making season one, how they were talking about, like, yeah, we've actually already recorded seasons two and three, the voice actors or something, and like I guess the scripts had been written. Like, I don't know. Um, and obviously we've talked about how they planned there's at least five seasons of the show plan, which is kind of crazy that it's gonna get an equal run, at least season-wise, as the original series. It's awesome. I don't know if it's gonna get 76. I guess not 76 episodes, because there's only nine this season. They're only doing about nine or ten a year.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Yeah, but they pack a lot of stuff into each episode. Yeah, I just aren't really like filler episodes.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Right. I and I also read that um they plan season three is gonna come out next year. They're not gonna make people wait two years. Okay. Which is good. Cool. Um You know, me and you had talked about maybe going back and re-watching X Men 97 season one. Uh we decided not to. I think it was mainly a time issue.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Uh but I don't I felt like, you know, the recaps we got, I just remembered it. I didn't feel like that was a disadvantage not having seen it in a while.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

You know, the X-Men were fighting Magneto on Asteroid M, and then they got transferred to the past and the future. The team I mean, like I remember they they had a kid, Madeline Pryor, the whole thing. I hope you remember too. I mean, like, I'm sure a lot of people did go back and watch season one.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Um that's not to say that I wouldn't go back and watch season one. I would even go back when this is finished and watch like all of it.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

Yeah, I would too, actually.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

One and two together. That would be fun. Right. I mean, when this episode ended, because I've only seen the first one so far, I didn't really want to stop to record.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Yeah, I know. It was tough.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

I kind of wanted to just keep going and see what it was.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

And honestly, I wanted to keep watching too. I was like, I was sucked in again. But um, let's that's you know what? And we've discussed too, you know, we've gone on several hiatuses for the past few months. Uh let's discuss briefly what our plans are here. Tomorrow you are going on a trip overseas and you'll be away for like a couple of weeks. So we're not going to be able to contemporaneously keep up with the show while uh you are away. I'm not going to do it without you. And we're also, we want to bring in uh, you know, uh guest hosts too along the way as we go forward. But what we are going to do is we're going to record three episodes for these first three ones, and we'll release them like three days in a row. So you're probably listening to this on Thursday morning, and then the next episode will come out Friday, Saturday, you know, whatever. Or maybe we'll release this one Wednesday. I have no idea. Anyway, so just to give people an idea of like if you if you're wondering next week why we're not talking about episode four, we will.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

It's just gonna be on a delay.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Right. So sorry about that. And if you're mad about it, you could have joined the Facebook group and voted, where we asked everyone, what should we do? You know, we gave everyone a fair chance, and and this is what people voted for. So people are okay with waiting. And um I'm and my rationale about it too is like I'm a little sad that we're not gonna be able to like do it immediately, but it's like we're promised five seasons of the show now, and this is only season two. So next time, hopefully it comes out in the fall, or we'll, you know, we'll know when it's coming out. We could plan our vacations better, but it doesn't matter. All right, episode one here, Days of Past Future. Um, it's you know, we get the intro, which is cool because I I kind of forgot, like not revisiting uh season one, is it they do some cool remixing stuff in the intros. They do Easter eggs, they do costume changes, they do like other like scenes that are relevant to episodes they want you to have like been tapped into as well, which is cool. Uh I appreciate that. That's really nice. The way they they make the intro like a celebration and sort of a like a fan service-y gift to the fans watching. Um, the biggest one I got here was like Wolverine with his bone claws. Right. Was neat. Yeah. So if we last remember, Magneto ripped out his metal skeleton, which is I I want to pat myself on the shoulder. That's something I called for uh called out years. I said if they're gonna bring X-Men back, they should do that storyline where Magneto, you know, X-Men number 25, that famous comic, where he tears out uh Wolverine's skeleton and he's got the bone claw. And they did it. That was amazing. So they're carrying that over, obviously. And then also you get from the intro, there's like a general focus on apocalypse, the main villain. Now, before we recorded, I just checked like my memory of season five of X-Men, going back to the original show, is like, like they defeated Apocalypse, didn't they? Like he's dead or something. But no, he's defeated in the days of or in the in the the time, you know, the um the tablet of time. The name of the episodes is keeping me, but the big four episode arc and where they fight Apocalypse in the nexus of time and they defeat him. He's defeated there. Right. But in season five, he is brought back. Like Phoebe and Cortez like finds him floating around the astral plane and like brings him back somehow. So Apocalypse is technically alive.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

They're actually dead. Right. He's defeated for now, but he's a perennial villain.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

I mean, they definitely kind of defeated him for good in season four. I thought that was a clear, unambiguous ending. But I guess when they did season five, which they weren't really planning on, season four is supposed to be the conclusion of the show, but they're like, all right, we gotta bring back Apocalypse. And they did. So and now I I guess so it does make sense that he's still alive. Although we have seen like there's endings, for instance, where we saw cable in his future in the year 4000 or 3999 AD, where like it's everything's happy. He's got a son, Tyler.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Remember Tyler?

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Tyler!

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

I remember to see. And it's just like, oh, like the so you know, they're the timeline is wonky, I guess, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

But Apocalypse is back. He's a great villain. They have a new voice actor, obviously, because the original voice actor passed away. It's main these actors have. But this looks close enough, you know, it's it it didn't uh bump me in any way. And the show opens with we see the destroyed X-Mansion, which has been destroyed many times, as we talked about in movies and cartoons and T like it's always getting destroyed. Uh but that's where it opens here, and uh there's a news report on the disappearance of the X-Men. And the newscaster, there's something like definitely wrong with her face. And she's got like scars in her face. I think it's a remnant of like when from the events of the first season where like half of humanity or something were fucked over by that virus. Right. Uh so I I guess it's a nod to that yeah, unless I'm imagining it, people can call uh correct me if I'm wrong. And I I love the way the season starts with like Bishop and Forge building a new time machine, the one we saw from the original series. And they had the time bands and everything and the rules and stuff, and it's just it's like a very satisfying way to start the premise of the new season. And to me, X-Men and time travel go together like peanut butter and jelly, too. So I'm just very happy in general with the overall premise and the way they kick things off here. And that we get some cool posters on the wall. Uh we see Cyclops, Gene, Storm, Morph, and Wolverine. They're in the future in the year 3960 AD. Uh, important date because we normally see cable in the year 3999. This is right, Rennie's a young boy. Um, they're in the Atlantic basin, which at first I thought was like, oh, like New York City's probably been destroyed, and you know, what remains is like a bait, like you know, the Atlantic Ocean's probably dried away, or half of it anyway, and there's like they're in the basin part of it. But then I remembered in the original show, Cable's clearly in New York City. They say he's in New York City 39.99. So the Atlantic Basin is it's not New York, it's just like a different part of the eastern seaboard. Right, exactly. Yeah. Um, I love setting the show in the 40th century. That's just a hilarious time to consider.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Why?

unknown 10:55

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Um and uh so they're there, and then Xavier Magneto, Beast, Nightcrawl, and Rogue are in the year 3000 BC in the Nile Delta in ancient Egypt. And uh we'll catch up with them shortly. Uh but I forget who says it, like Forge or Bishop says these are two of the darkest ages in humanity, in humanity's existence. And I guess primarily because Apocalypse was there, uh ruling over those times explicitly.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Right. So they're gonna split up. Bishop is going to the past and forge is going to the future. Um and Bishop gives Forge like the time travel tips.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Right. Because Forge, even though he's invented time travel, is not travel through time.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Um also he he says, Oh, Forge, you're going to the future because you gotta go after Storm. You gotta chase your heart. Uh which is interesting, their relationship.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

And then uh they jump through the time portals and it looks great, you know. Yeah. It's like an updated version of what we got from the 90s show. And then Bishop has that line, we gotta get the X-Men back to the 90s. Um, which, you know, I I only bring it up just because in the original show, uh this is a different actor voicing Bishop now. I thought the original Bishop actor was a little stronger in his line readings and stuff. And uh when they're preparing, I don't know, there's just like talk of going to the nineties in the original show and the days of future past two parter.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

It's like, where are you going? I guess it's Wolf Rudy says it to the nineties.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

I just thought that I was like, I don't know it's trying to call back to that, but it didn't hit the same for you.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Not for me, yeah. But it's okay. I appreciate the effort. Uh so now we go to 3690, and we're they're outside some building, and there's a whole bunch of green, probably like sweet smelling green smoke billowing around. Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Um Forge uh is there he's got like excellent weaponry.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Yeah. Um Which I didn't know how to feel about at first.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Why? Well, because his weapons shouldn't be as effective as they are, considering he's going to like Yeah, like and Apocalypse has amazing technology.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

It's like 2,000 years into the future, whatever it is, and it's his guns are really awesome. Um I just remember them making a big deal in the original series about Cable's gun being so dangerous, and he's way from the future. And Bishop had a powerful gun too, but it wasn't what nearly what cable's gun was. I don't know the gun technology. It just caught my eye. But then I was thinking, like, well, Forge is an incredible super inventor that maybe his gun inventions transcend time and space, you know. His guns will be powerful enough to fight in the year 4000, essentially.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Yeah. What are the monsters called? They're like robot hounds or something.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Yeah, you know, it's funny because we watch with the subtitles on, they they give you the names of some of the creatures.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

And the robot, they call them like uh, I don't know, apocalypse hounds or something, or they're like big robots, but they like they have like a skull uh sort of driver in them, and they like snarl and growl kind of like uh they look like apocalypse, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

I mean they're they're menacing, like they're as big as sentinels, but like n I I don't know if they're 100% machine or not. Maybe not.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Yeah. I mean we see cable fight these things in the original series too in the future. He's like always fighting these crazy robots. Yeah. They look a little different in the original series.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

I mean, here okay, let's just say this. The animation's a thousand times better than the original series. Yes. But I do think some of the set design in the original series was cooler too. Like I think the battle scenes of cable fighting in the post-apocalyptic future is like more interesting uh in the year 3999 than what we see here necessarily. It's a different location. I don't know. I'm being okay, here I go, being too nitpicky. Um this was still still a cool fight that we our first big fight here.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

And then um It looks like Forge is really in trouble because he's like surrounded in the putting up like a good fight with his laser gun.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

He doesn't really have powers.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Right he's a man, he's but a man.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

But then uh he gets some help. Um the first one to swoop in and start like s jumping on the back and of these robot creatures and like stabbing them is Wolverine, of course, but you see his he has the bone claws right away.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

And they show like repeatedly throughout this episode that every time he stabs a robot, his bone claws break off and he screams in pain a little bit. Yeah. But then they grow back, um, true to the comics. Uh you know, Wolverine looks a little haggard here. Him and Storm have like the classic late 80s Jim Lee era X-Men outfits that are like yellow and blue. That's a cool look. Um, his mask is a bit degraded because his hair is like puffing through the sides. I feel like that was like an age, I mean, an an uh what am I trying to say? It's uh an homage to the Age of Apocalypse Wolverine character design, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

With the hair.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

Yeah, something, but not quite. It's different. Um, but I do like the outfits though. That's the other thing in this new season. All the outfits you're gonna see S-tier, by the way. There's no complaints. They they they really nailed the the assignment when it came to like uh giving the characters different outfits, like fan service outfits, whatever it is, and we'll talk about them as they come up. So anyway, Storm also shows up. She's super powerful still. Forge quotes Beast saying, Oh my stars and garters, and uh he has good news. He's got a bunch of time bands in his backpack and he's bringing everybody home, problem solved.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

And when they first greet each other, they have like a long kiss to say hello, which is just like very cute. Yes. Very satisfying to see them reunited.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Uh it's at this point that Cyclops, Gene, and Nathan appear. Uh Nathan, all grown up now. When they bishop Bishop brought him to the future as a baby. Right. He's like 12 or something. I don't know, yeah. Uh or maybe he's like 13. Um, and we see Cyclops and Gene. Cyclops and Gene wearing their classic X Factor costumes from the 80s. Cyclops in that blue and white thing with the big X on his body, and Gene in red and yellow with the big yellow X, which is incredible. I love that. Um I don't know how they got these costumes in the future, but they haven't.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

It's cool that they're doing like the fan service of bringing back all the different costumes and outfits and stuff like that, but like, do you see a method to the Madness?

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Yeah. No, it's just fun.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

So like matching like where the outfits are.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

They got them from the Ascani tribe somehow. Yeah. Or Mother Ascani perhaps dressed them as we'll talk about that. That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

I don't really care. I was just wondering if there was like a pattern to it that I wasn't seeing, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Um Cyclops and Gene don't really want to go back to the present. They want to stay and raise Nathan, uh, who's we learn there's like a prophecy that he's the one that's going to save the future world. And that's a big burden that everyone has. But the other thing we learned too is that Cyclops and Gene have not revealed to Nathan that they're his birth parents. They're just these weirdo like adventurers that have decided to take him under their wing. Yeah. Right, yeah. It's like Mother of Scotty's like, oh, follow these people, they'll help you. It's been a few months we've learned too that they've been in the future. Um what happens next?

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Uh Forge has like this theory that um they got sent to like these specific apocalypse locations for locations in time. Right, yeah. Right. Right. Time stamps, I guess. Right, yeah. Locations. Um like s specifically because of like apocalypse, and he wants to bring them all to the.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Well, no, they don't know why. They think it was it was like for a reason they got brought to these locations.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Oh, I thought the reason was apocalypse.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Well, it is, but the reason they were like some other force brought them to those timestamps for a reason to stop apocalypse. Right. Yeah. Which again, like, this is they they're kind of like rehashing what we saw in the the apocalypse four-parter from season four. Uh like that they they also go to like ancient Egypt for that too. They travel through time and fight apocalypse in different time zones across time and space. So you know, this is like not unfamiliar territory for them, sort of. Although I guess these specific characters haven't been in the future.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Right. Um and so Forge is like, all right, well, let's go back to the 90s now, all of us. And uh Scott and Gene are like, well, give us one day. Like, give us just a day to like say goodbye and settle our affairs. Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

It's more right, it's settling affairs is the operative word because it's it's not that they just need like one more day with Nathan. They need to like decide if they're gonna tell them the truth. Right. And they have a that's like a heady discussion for them. And Storm tacitly approves of this, as we'll learn later on, but Forge is pretty aghast because he knows this is fucking with the timeline. He says the more the X-Men remain in the past and the future, the more chance they have to like screw the timeline up irrevocably. Um, and then we cut to Apocalypse's palace.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Yes, this is gruesome.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

It's just like all the palace grounds are covered in like dead bodies of all people who were just executed or tried storming the palace or escaping. So many dead people.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Right. And then they also pan up like this enormous palace, and you see just like endless like prison bars with people's hands sticking out. And so he's pretty much either killed or enslaved the entire planet. Uh it's hell on Earth.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Again, it's like Apocalypse was essentially a ripoff character of Darkseid from the DC universe that Jack Kirby created. Right. And this is like the same shit, more or less, in my opinion, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Yeah. So Apocalypse is there in his palace and he's doing like a regeneration process. This has like Rachel Ghoul kind of vibes.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

They're kind of similar, like Egypt adjacent adjacent like characters that live forever.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

But also like Darth Vader kind of vibes a little bit too.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Um, because he has on like a whole like masked sarcophagus sort of Oh, I didn't even remember what he looked like when he appeared from his regeneration. Um so he's like in the middle of doing that, and he has some kind of like sidekick, like wizard guy.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Osmodius?

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Osim Osum.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

I think it's Osmodius. That's what the subtitle said. Unless I'm pronouncing it wrong.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Um and this guy is like, I found you a new vessel apocalypse.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

He looks more like a visor than a wizard, right? Is that how you say that?

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Oh, what?

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Like, remember Aladdin, like the villain uh Jafar?

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Was he like a VSor? Like the Sultan's V uh Is that how am I seeing that word correctly? I have no idea. Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Like a seer?

SPEAKER_00 21:29

No, like uh whatever. It's fine. I think people know what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Um and he he's referring to Nathan because of Nathan's specific uh like mut mutant powers or whatever. Um and he's like, you know, you won't have to do the regeneration process anymore if you uh uh take this boy as your vessel.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

And so um the horsemen are sent out to this is kind of shit we saw in the X-Men movie Days of Future Past.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Where they get Oscar Isaac, who's just this Egyptian mutant guy, who has the Wolverine. Healing powers and they transfer his like decaying body to like this new guy that can't die.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Although cable doesn't exactly fit that power set, but whatever. They've sort of repurposed that storyline.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Um and yeah, so they send the horsemen out to get Nathan, who is with the Ascani tribe. The Ascani tribe was like a big reveal in the end of the uh last season.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Right? Like very mysterious. There was like a Mother Ascani or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Right. Um I mean, should we just spoil it now? Uh if you I guess if you don't know who Mother Ascani is, fast forward a minute or so. Like it's Rachel Summers. It's the old version of Rachel Summers, who we know is like the alternate dimension daughter of Gene and Scott, or I forget, is she Madeline Pryor's daughter? I have no idea. The point is, no, because Cable is whatever. Uh these are the issues. She's from some variant timeline or something. She's also known as Phoenix 2. Uh-huh. I always like Rachel Summers as a character because she's got this cool her prime version, her outfit's like this red bodysuit with these satanic spikes coming out of it all over her arms and legs and stuff. Cool. I like that look of her. And she basically has the powers of Gene Gray, like probably more powerful, actually.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Cut back to Scott and Gene. They're uh hanging out with Nathan, and Gene is trying to teach him how to control his like techno-organic virus or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

Yeah, that that part I'm not too clear on as to the I mean he was sent to the future because the virus was killing him as a baby. But in the future, he just lives with the virus and controls it with the I don't know. I don't know exactly how he's controlling the virus.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Gene like uses her psychic powers to make his like technovirus arm look like a normal like a normal human arm flesh again. And she's trying to teach him how to like keep it that way, I guess. But I don't know if that means that it's healed, or it's just an illusion that it looks like it's healed.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

I don't know, because he's got telepathy powers too, like his mother, or telekinesis powers anyway, like his mother.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

But the idea is that like Scott and Gene are trying to like help him train him to use his powers in a most productive way, I guess. Um meanwhile, Morph is there and he found a baseball.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Somehow he found a baseball in the year in the year 3900, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

And they give him a minute just to be like a normal kid. They're like, okay, go ahead, he's really happy. And then um Cyclops starts talking about like the prophecy from Mother Ascani that cable is destined to save the world.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

He doesn't buy it, he's very skeptical.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

And he doesn't trust Mother Ascani at all.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

His own daughter, as it'll turn out to be.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Right. But he doesn't know.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

Yeah. No, he doesn't know.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Um so he like goes to Mother Ascani, he's asking her all these questions like where did the prophecy come from? Who wrote it? Uh like is it real, basically, and who are you really? And uh she like doesn't really give him any satisfying answers. Everything is very cryptic.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Yeah. And I like how she meditates, she floats upside down over a flaming pit of fire and lets the fire surround her.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Uh-huh. That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Yeah. Um, yeah, so she's being very dodgy, and she says something like Nathan is supposed to shatter the rocks of the eternal shore, which is a callback to like one of Apocalypse's great lines from the original series. He says, I am the rocks of the eternal shore, crash against me and suffer or something. Whatever he says. Yeah. But they bring that back.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

And then finally, Scott asks her, like, Well, what about after the prophecy? Like, what happens then? And she's like, It ends. And he like can't accept that because he doesn't know whether to take that as like, he dies, everyone dies. Like, what happens?

SPEAKER_00 25:48

I like to think it's just a callback to the fake ending of season four of the original series. Yeah. It's just like, oh, you know, show's over. Oh, it's not, okay, carries on. We don't really know what the end is. Um so she won't answer who she is, and Scott is like not convinced. Uh meanwhile, Forge is like a little annoyed at Storm because he's like, I, you know, you respect the natural order of things, but you know, you're tampering with the timeline. And Storm says something like, You're asking me to get between a the parent and the child saying goodbye. So that's her defense of tampering with time.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

And then Forge has some other like weird stuff. He's talking about the relationship.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

And he's like, How are we gonna make this work? I'm a man of science, you're a woman of faith. Everything.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

That opened a weird question in my mind. I'm like, what is Storm's faith? I was like, is she Christian? Is she Muslim?

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Isn't she an Egyptian god or something?

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Well, that is Egyptian, but she's like not-I mean, modern Egyptian people are Muslim by and large, uh-huh. Uh or Christian.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Right. Uh but I thought the religion he was referring to was like the ancient Egyptian religion.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Well, I thought well, in like the comics, like when she's introduced, she's presented as like a she's in Africa naked in some tribe somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Oh yeah, and there she's the weather god.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Right. And she's like, maybe she's like more like traditional African god, uh-huh worship you know, religious worship or something. So I don't know what exactly what faith exactly he's referring to. Maybe it's just a more general statement. But that did strike a note of curiosity in my mind. I never thought about Storm, like if she has religion or I mean it might have been explored in the comics, I don't know. Alright. Anyway, Morph interrupts him as like We know Wolverine is Christian or Catholic.

unknown 27:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Based on that time Nightcrawler tries to Nightcrawler gives him a Bible or something, and Wolverine ends up uh praying in a church.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yes. Um Morph shows up and like interrupts their conversation, is like, uh, so I had this baseball, but instead Scott and Gene took Nathan and like ran away with him.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Right. And now Storm is mad though at Scott and Gene. Like she's like, all right, this is too far.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Right. They took advantage of the situation.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Because they think they're just going to decide to live in the future and raise Nathan. Uh and then Scott and Gene are psychically arguing with each other about like what to do about Nathan, and then Nathan reveals that he could hear their minds. So his powers have emerged, I guess. His or at least his telepathic powers. That's cool. Yeah. Um, and then they're attacked by like the apocalypse robots and the horsemen. We get some like crazy ass horsemen here.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

I only wrote down a few, like the kabuki lady who shoots bees from her mouth. That looks pretty horrifying.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

There's like a Confederate soldier that shoots like sound waves out of his drum.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Or is he the one spreading the disease, or is that the kabuki lady? I don't know. Either way, one of them, one of them is pestilence, and then uh, you know, then there's like some big brooding guy who's like uh the muscle, he's got a big axe, uh-huh, and they're being attacked by who this new incarnation of the four horsemen. I liked it. Creative character designs insane. Uh meanwhile, cut to Wolverine, Storm, Forge, and Mother Scotty, they well, okay. Well, what happens after that fight is they like they get uh beat badly. Scott and Gene get infected with horrible swords and they pass out sick and they just kidnap them. Right. And then uh Wolverine, Storm, and the others, like they go to investigate the battle scene and they discover that well Mother Scotty is worried that, like you know, the timeline is diverging from whatever the prophecy is supposed to be. And uh and then she gets more into it. She's like, the one destined to destroy apocalypse will rise from the cradle that birthed his power, an ancient craft that came from the stars, forged by beings some would call gods. And we know this to be well, it's the celestials, first of all. Because the story of Apocalypse is that celestials crashed land on Earth in ancient Egypt times, Apocalypse discovered their ship or something, got their technology, and that's how he got all immortality and technology and stuff. Uh and uh, but the thing is like she's specifically referring to the ship, which was made famous in the original series when they're trying to beat Apocalypse with Archangel and Rogue, and uh they hijack Apocalypse's like AI ship that is simply name ship, and Beast ends up falling in love with the ship and crying, and remember all that.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Yeah. Then they parody it in Futuramo.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Oh, do they?

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yeah, sort of Bender falls in love.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know if that was a direct X-Men parody. Probably not, yeah. But uh that was an interesting episode because like I as far as I recall, the ship, like what does the ship do at the end of it? Does it kill itself to stop apocalypse, or maybe it's just fly into hyperspace or something? They trap apocalypse in like a cage, in some kind of impenetrable energy cage, and then the ship like Beast is crying, they have to abandon the ship. I forget if the ship just explodes, or it's I think it just takes off and goes into hyperspace.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

I guess I remember specifically. I remember it ends in tragedy for Beast.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Right, he's crying. Oh, Beast has like a little tablet from the ship that has like its computer and the computer fades, and that's when he cries. Yeah. Um to weep for AI. Uh so Wolverine recognizes this whole he remembers this whole episode and he refers to the name of the ship as ship, which I thought was funny. That ship. That took me a second for that all to lock in. And uh I guess uh the Sky Tribe has the ship, the ship's back. Yeah, ship's back, it's in one piece. Um and uh the other thing is they say there's some kind of time, like the Gene, Scott, and Nathan are on this apocalypse slave ship that's heading to his palace, and they have the train, yeah. Right, they have to stop it before it gets to the palace of the Lords, there'll be no way to get inside. So they need like to use the ship, but the ship is unpowered to like fly fast enough to stop the train.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Right. Forge has a plan. He's like, I can, you know, m mess around with the electronics and stuff like that, but I'm gonna need an incredible power source to get it going again. Unless you have a black hole hidden somewhere, like I'm gonna do it. And Mother Scotty's like, Don't worry about it. We got it. Go ahead. Come to find out, her power source is gonna be Storm.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

And she's like, Storm, you're gonna unleash the power of the sun. And Storm's like, all right.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Yeah. Well, at first she's like, What? I could do that. She's like, Yeah, you have the power to do that. I she asked Storm, like Storm has to make a solar flare, or no, a solar storm. Uh-huh. Right. Something like that. Uh and then he also Mother Scotty hints that she's from some darker timeline. And uh that's the whole Rachel Summers stuff. Um, and you also see, I guess she I think she also has a time band on her arm, too. I could be mistaken about that. Unless that was just a bracelet. Maybe she has her own forge timeline. And it's also revealed that she's the one that brought the X-Men here. And uh and then we also see she's got the Phoenix Force in her eyes as well. Yeah. At first, I thought before just like thinking it was Rachel Summers that it was uh Gene from an alternate timeline.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

Um, because she says I'm from a much darker timeline than you can imagine, Storm. Um, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

Yeah, but she says she's the one who brought them here, and then she sent the other team to the future, and she was like the past. I mean the past. And so she's like, the thought is that they could like stop the mutant that's gonna become um apocalypse, perhaps in the past.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

And then this team could also be stop him in the future. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

Again, it's like they did this plot line a bit in the original series. It's kind of happened already, but whatever, they're remixing it.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

It's just it's always like an interesting philosophical question because it's like she's the one who like holds the prophecy and believes in the prophecy more than anyone else, but like she herself is taking measures to like change the past and the future. Yeah. But like, how do you know like that how does she know that she needs to do those things for the prophecy to become reality versus just letting things be and letting the prophecy become reality? You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, this is something like something is amiss with like the determinism versus free will.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

Yes, a hundred percent. Uh and then she also is talking about how like it's the X-Men's destiny to train Nathan to become cable as well. Like uh anyway, we cut to the bullet train, they're all imprisoned on there, Gene, Scott, and Nathan, and Gene's trying to like get Nathan to use somehow uses techno organic virus to overwhelm the mutant collars they're wearing. Again, same mutant collars they had in the 1990s.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Yeah, that technology doesn't seem to have progressed too much in 2000 years.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Um so he first he can't do it, he's too weak, it's too painful. Then Scott and Gene like pump him up and tell him, like, oh, you could do it, and they decide to reveal to him that he's their son. But I guess if well, I guess right now he can't read their minds because he's got the mutant collar on. Right. But before he couldn't pick up that he was the their son. All right, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

I don't know. But Scott calls him my son and like tells him about how his parents are both very powerful mutants, a lot of all that running in your veins.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

Right. A lot of weeping in this episode, too.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Yeah. Uh you can do it, and then he does.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

And then they also say, like, listen, like, the reason we can't be with you is like the best future of you is one with us not in it. And Nathan kind of understands. He overcomes the the constraints, he breaks the collar free, he frees his parents, a bunch of robots storm in, they fight them off, and then uh so the team breaks into the train, the shipworks, meanwhile, has summoned her the solar storm. This is a cool anime sequence. Very cool.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

They show us the sun, they show the storm brewing.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

The surface of the sun, cut to the surface of the sun. That's why I love the X-Men. This is the first time we've been to the sun in the X-Men show, too. The Phoenix flies and hides the Mkron crystal in the center of the sun.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

Yeah. Uh uh Flames of the Sun, source of all creation. I summon a tempest of fire and light, whose fl flares ignite the spark of hope and darkness and blaze our trail to the end to end apocalypse. For we are the dawn that breaks the night. So she's uh she had to come up with a really good conjuring to get that power kicking. Classic Storm. Uh you know, it's cool. Yeah, and then the the music kicks in, uh, and one of the horsemen's like, Who are you to defy apocalypse? And Scott says, In our time, we're called the X-Men. And then I like Storm uh chips in too with one of her like classic quits.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Good one, Storm.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Yeah, I uh a slight call back. She's done similar ones like that in the past too.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

This is cool where Morph becomes Thor in the fight sequence. Um and he uh uses like Thor's hammer.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

Storm freezes the Confederate drummer guy and Thor Thor, like kills him. Morph Thor kills him.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

With the hammer.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Right. Maybe not kills him, but knocks him. Shatters him or something. Uh and then Nathan, like, I don't know if this is part of his power set or something, but he grabs one of the huge guns that the robots left and starts shooting it.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

I think they're trying to show his like he has like tech power.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

That's what I thought too. I I might be confused about cable's powers if he could do stuff like that, but whatever. He gets a big gun. Uh uh this Osmodious guy like turns to dust and flies away. He's been defeated.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Uh Ozimandius?

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Or Osimandius.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

I I don't know if I'm saying that right now.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Neither do I. Uh the train crashes outside the palace. I like this line from Mother Ascani. Let destiny knock, and then you see the train crash into the palace. Um Apocalypse is told the bad news, and Apocalypse knows it's the X-Men, and he says he's going to strike them at their most vulnerable, the 1990s.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Why is that their most vulnerable?

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Because probably because, like, in general, Sonia, the 1990s is like the last time civilization was up to snuff in any timeline. Now thinking about the history of the world and how things have played out in the last uh thirty years. I mean, there were plenty of problems, but there are problems, but the nineties was way sweeter for a lot of reasons.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

Uh it's presumed, I guess, that apocalypse like time travels himself. He shoots out of his own palace in a dazzling beam of pink light. Right. That's cool. I like this next scene. Um all the prisoners from the apocalypse prisons are freed.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

A whole ton of mutants.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Right. I think there must be all mutants in the future. I don't know if there's any human beings around.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

Nathan um clears a path for them. He like moves a big hunk of train metal out of the way.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

Although I there must be humans. I think or I don't know. I can't say that for certain.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Maybe humans have evolved too to look different than now.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

But there's there's human, regular human-looking people in the the original show in the future that fight along cable. Yeah, it's true. They might have been mutants too, but I don't know, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 38:27

I'd this apocalypse was like specifically like capturing mutants in the future for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

I don't know it's hard to say. I wouldn't say that's the case. But the all the mutants we see here that are freed from prison, they all look like you know, crazy pink-colored people in pink and green and stuff. They're alien-esque looking.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

So then Nathan, uh Storm and Mother Ascani go up to the throne room, like Apocalypse's throne room. And the ship, or is it no, is it in the ship?

SPEAKER_00 38:59

That's a good I think it's in the throne room they go to.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

That's what I thought too. And I was like, Nathan looks real freaked out, and I would be too, because okay, Apocalypse left for now, but that doesn't mean he's not coming back. Right. And like there's like the implication that Nathan is supposed to become the leader now. Like he should take the throne. Like, why? Where did he get that idea?

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Well, because it's part of the prophecy. But that's not really what is the goal of the scene, though, as it turns out. I think right, there's confusion leading up to that scene. But the real goal is to give him the AI of the ship.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

Because that's part of the prophecy as well.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

It is the ship. It is the ship.

SPEAKER_00 39:34

No, it's the throne room, but they get they s I don't know. They somehow get the AI.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

I wasn't gonna nitpick me. I was a little confused at this point.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Right. They somehow get the AI from the ship and they set it up in the throne room or something. Nathan sticks his arm through this circle thing, and his arm turns into like a full metal arm.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Like the the the full metal cable arm.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

Right. Uh and then cut to modern day cable. Well, we see that he decides he is going to ascend the throne. He's like asking questions about like, but what if I'm not ready? And Storm is like, you know, only you can decide. And like you see his steely confidence in his eyes.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

And then the AI greets him. Welcome, Nathan Day Spring Summers.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

Is that his middle name?

SPEAKER_00 40:22

I guess so.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

Uh and then the AI gets transferred to his arm. We'll learn more about that in a like two episodes from now. Or maybe three. The next one, I forget. Um, and then cut to the modern day, cable in the 1990s, he realizes like his mission to stop apocalypse continues.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

Yeah, he's like basically says every time I think I squashed him, he like just pops back up in some order.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

It is a fun little yeah, poor twist of fate for cable. That it's like when he's a kid, his the whole prophecy of him getting being apocalypse is kind of clear and even.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

But as an adult, it's like so complicated.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

It's much more slippery than it should have been.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Like he's just traveling through time, and there's all these different timelines, and it sucks. But he's assembled a new team around him. He's got Silock and Archangel, we see to start. They call him boss. Scyllock appropriately has the British accent this time around. In the original series, if you'll remember, she's sort of Americanized her accent, but now they've made her uh appropriately British as to the character's trait. I don't know if they're gonna get into the whole Silock backstory. I kind of doubt it. It doesn't seem like you never know.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

They like I don't they really squish a lot of story into all these episodes.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

I mean, the Silock character is just so insane, the origin of her from the comics, of like where Jim Lee creates this guy. No, Jim Lee takes Silock, who is a character who's just like this British lady who's a new telepath on the team, and then he transforms her, I think inexplicably, and I guess Chris Claremont was doing this too. Like they transform into like an Asian assassin femme fatale character, and then they have to account for all this like weird body switching bullshit that happens, and and then it was like a little like racially insensitive to the storyline because she's this like British white lady inhabiting the body of an Asian woman, but then they decide to resolve that. They have like there's like a split personality thing going on where there actually was an Asian woman named Quenon, I think, who was that character, and she was a deadly assassin, and like the British white woman Silock took over her brain, like and they split again. It's it's super confusing and insane. So it's like whatever the modern version of Silock, the one we see in the cartoon, she is not Betsy Braddock anymore, the British sister of Captain Britton. Uh-huh. She is now Quenon, the like ja actual Japanese character, uh-huh, I believe. So here they're not really touching any of that. She just she has the British accent at the least. Um, Archangel's back. Uh I wonder if they're gonna like fix any of the Archangel plot holes from the original series. Because like originally, when we meet Archangel or Angel, Warren Worthington III, he doesn't know who the X-Men are. Right. Gets turned into Archangel, has some adventures with them, but then we see some episodes later on in the original series where it's like he was actually on the original team and it makes no fucking sense.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

I read somewhere that they said they're gonna fix that in this series. Um I'll say this much in the first three episodes, you don't get that doesn't come up, so it's not like to be determined.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

It was too complicated, and they were like, Oh, we can't make it make sense, forget it.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

Or maybe they do. I think it'd be cool. There's a lot of time traveling shenanigans. Right. So uh the episode ends with Cable like looking through a dossier and Psilock and Archangel, like, what's our next move, boss?

SPEAKER_01 43:37

He's like recruitment.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Yeah. And then you look at he's uh in his file, he's got Jubilee and Sunspot, who I think I wrote sunfire throughout my the entirety of my notes, which is wrong. Um and then the episode ends, and it's um This was a lot of fun. X Men ninety seven's back, baby. Uh yeah, I mean, I think its greatest strengths are it's cinematic.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

It really moves, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Animation is beautiful. Animation is beautiful. The color is beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

The characterization seems spot on.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

Yeah, it's just as messy as the comics. It's fun in that way. It's they just the spirit of the X-Men is captured. Uh, and the X-Men prove that they're the greatest thing Marvel has. Still, my I mean, like the Avengers are lame losers. I'll I'll hold fast to that opinion. Be it in live action or comics or cartoons. And Spider-Man's great, but the X-Men are like the true Marvel kings of like best stories, best characters, best male and female characters, and everything in between. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 44:33

They're just we've got violence, we've got romance, we've got action scenes, we've got social injustices.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

We've got super sci-fi, time travel, aliens. I mean, it's just like it contains it all in the most satisfying way. And and anyone, I feel like like what's great about the X-Men, like people find themselves in the characters, you know, like you're represented somewhere in some character, some trait of a character, you know, uh you're just they got you covered, and I think that's part of the fantasy, and that's why the X-Men are just still like great, and I think they're gonna they continue to have staying power anyway. And I think this remains to be like it's the funniest thing, my statement, which I don't think is controversial, it remains like the best thing Marvel has done since they became this new company in the 2000s when they started making their own movies and TV shows and things. Like, what's better than X-Men 97? Yeah, like nothing? I mean, like you want to argue like people who like love the endgame saga of Avengers movies. I mean, like, those are good, but also like they don't age that well in retrospect to me, and it's just the m the subsequent movies have like stunk more or less. Yeah. And people are tired I don't know. It's just the X-Men are the best.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

I I I think that's indisputable. I don't think there are any Marvel or superhero fans that would say differently. I mean, I know Iron Man has got fans now, but he did not have fans. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

Right. I mean, and we've said it going back to the creation in this podcast that uh the X-Men are the best. Like it's like they were the cartoon was a thing that gave Fox the confidence to make an X-Men movie.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

And it was a reason that that was the first movie franchise that started because the cartoon was such a fucking smash.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

And from that first X-Men movie, you get the entire MCU essentially. I know we there was Fox and Sony, whatever, but they all ended up merging anyway in different ways. And it's all because of X-Men, and it's all because of the X-Men cartoon. So here we are again with like the best thing Marvel's probably ever done, which uh it goes back, I'll close on this. My theory of how there's the one thing Marvel should have learned from Japan is fucking just animate all your comic books.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

If you are a fan of manga in Japan, you and the manga is successful enough, you can be damn certain they're going to make a cartoon that is faithful. Possibly a live-action version as well, with all the same storylines and characters. Completely honestly faithful to the the manga you read. Yeah. And the fact that Marvel just didn't take that strategy from the beginning where they're just like, we are going to just uh g animate all our classic storylines uh slavishly, the ones we've done through the years, the ones that people love, and just make them into cartoons is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

And X-Men was sort of like that, and not exactly, like it's a it's an interpretation of the actually like that would actually be awesome if they just started from like X-Men number one.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Right, the 60s. Yeah, Spider-Man number one.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

There's a lot of cartoons out now, like whatever, it's too late to go back. But like do that with live action movies, even or a live action TV show. Just start from the beginning and tell the story.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

That's too complicated.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 47:41

Well, you can't pump it out. Like a cartoon you could pump out, like I guess, yeah. Like live action, the actor's age, it's special effects, it's expensive. I'm just saying, and people like cartoons don't complain about cartoons, in my opinion, anyway. I mean they do, but you know what I mean? Like they don't like if a cartoon misses, people don't get too upset. If it's a live action it misses, people like th you know throw a riot over it. And everyone's mad. It's like all years wasted time of hype and energy and money, and it just goes out the window.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll take the rest of X-Men 97. It's been good so far. Yeah. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

I mean, it's its own thing. It's not like it's not the comics come to life, but it's close enough. They're throwing right. Oh, I see what you mean. Like if they just like went back as this is a project.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

I mean, they just a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

It would be a really cool project. I would watch all of that too.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

One day they'll have shitty, generative enough AI. That's not shitty and uh that's not too shitty. That you could just put the comic in and it can animate a whole comic, I bet. Yeah. With voice acting. That'll happen. If they can't even maybe they can even do that now.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

They can probably do it now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

But uh, so we might see that one day. Who knows? All right. Anyway, that's the end of episode one. Uh see you guys tomorrow, probably, with episode two.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Great. Good night. Bye.