Jae Henderson

Jae Henderson is a comedian and show producer from Memphis, TN, and also an author, public speaker, and voice over artist.  

In addition to chatting about all her entertainment hats, in this episode Drew and Jae chat about the joy of doing comedy, the joys of online dating, and much more!

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Laughter is medicine. And if I can, you know, give you give you a good shot.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Every now and then to brighten your day or add to whatever you have going on. And you leave feeling really good and you think it's money well spent, or whether you got in for free, you think it's time well spent, that that I'm happy.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

You're listening to the podcast Clean Comedy Chats with your host and David. It's gonna be often will change your life forever.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

You're welcome. You're welcome. Welcome back to Clean Comedy Chats, the podcast where we interview different comedians each week from the Clean Comedy Collective. I bring a different friend from our nationwide network. Um, and this week I'm so excited because I have my friend from Memphis, Jay Henderson. How are we doing, Jay? Hello, I am great. Thank you for having me. I'm glad you're here. Uh and happy to be here. You're you're visiting Nashville because uh we're on a show together tonight. Um and then you had a show last night in I had I was in Murphy'sboro. Murfreesboro, okay, and it was with your sorority or well, it was with a sorority.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

I am I am a member of Zeta 5 Beta, and this was Delta Sigma Theta, but my sorority sisters did come out to support, thank you, um, Rutherford County chapter of Delta Sigma Theta, and they um and they had a book chat slash comedy show, which was a lot of fun. That's the first time I've done that. I would love to do more of them. Um, so we talked about one of my books, um, where do we go from here? And then afterwards I did a set.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Okay, that's so cool. So you did a comedy show after your book like review, book study. So like did do you find did you find the book people were a good audience for a comedy show?

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Uh yeah. Yeah. Every, you know, most of the people stayed for both parts and a captive audience. I think they wanted to hear me even more after hearing me talk about my book.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

I love that. And that makes sense because you get to know you and they're like, okay, let's hear the jokes. Well, uh, before we get get more into Jay, just a friendly reminder to everyone here. Uh that so this podcast is part of the Clean Comedy Collective. Uh, we have a website called cleancomedycollective.com. Um, and you can go there and you can see you can get to know all the comedians that are part of our collective. We have about 220 right now from about 32-ish states. But the goal is to have all 50 states by the end of the year. That's wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

You know, I was there since the very beginning. Uh, we're up to over 200 members.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

That's yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, uh, because we start we started in Tennessee and then and then we branched out a little bit. We got some in Memphis. And uh, so me and Jay are both in the Tennessee section. If you want to check that out on our website, uh in addition to seeing the comedians in the network, you can see what kind of shows we have upcoming each month. Uh, you can check out earlier episodes of this podcast. There's also a donation uh function where if you if you want to donate and join our Patreon, we get longer episodes where you get to hear me um mess up the headphones and not figure it out and then get to learn on the you get to really it's like you're actually here in the room with us doing the podcast with us, whereas we we tidy it up before we put it out for uh public consumption. Um and then if you're a comedian and you're interested in being part of the Clean Comedy Collective, there is a submission process, and that's something you can figure out on our site as well. Um, and that being said, before we ask Jay questions, uh here's a quick bio of Jay. Um so we already said you're a Memphis Tennessee comedian. Uh she performs all across the country. Uh, we're talking Georgia, Tennessee, Las Vegas, Alabama, all all the all the places. Uh, you were the 2025 winner of the uh you got the up and coming award for the Memphis uh Comedy Festival. Memphis, excuse me, Memphis Urban Last Comedy Festival. Um, and then you are the founder of the Gospel Girls Comedy Show. You're author of 11 books, and used to write for the the Tom Joyner morning show.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

I did.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Um we talked, we learned earlier as we were working on getting things set up here that you're also a former radio DJ, so that might be fun to talk about. And uh you were a voiceover act uh I almost said voiceover activist.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

That sounds like a quite a voiceover actor.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Actor, artist, and uh a professional speaker. Um and we're be got we're gonna be covering all of that and more in this podcast. Uh, but before we jump into that, uh question we ask all of our guests right off the bat, you know, before uh beyond the bio, who is Jay Henderson?

SPEAKER_00 4:12

I was about to say you just said it all. Um, this is that's just what you do.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Who are you as a human?

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Um as a human. Um, well, Jay Henderson of uh is a wife. Uh I'm newlywed. I've been married less than two years now. All right. Yes. Um uh as you said, I'm a book author, and people believe it or not, I am an introvert.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Um I am a huge homebody, so it it's how does this feel like talking at here and being out of a home in a different city?

SPEAKER_00 4:40

As I tell people, I've learned over time how to turn it on, turn it off, because I learned very early in my career that a closed mouth does not get fed. You just sitting over in the corner being quiet. People might not even notice you're there. So you have to learn to speak up and advocate for yourself, especially as you're going through your career and trying to you know make dreams come true.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Absolutely. That's very wise. I learned early on uh that no one um no no one will value you as much as yourself as far as like in comedy and like especially when it comes to like how much do you charge? Like, no one you're you gotta give you if if you no one's gonna ever hear your amount and be like, let me double that. You seem like you're worth more than that.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Every now and then you run into somebody that says that that's not enough. Yeah, but but most people, oh that's all, and then you're like, dang, I should have charged right. Yeah, when I hear, oh, that's all, yeah, I did pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Yeah, yeah, that's good. And and you're like, no, that's that that was just the the first half, the first half. Um but yeah, that's uh I I I cut you off as you're talking.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Is there anything else beyond beyond the bio or you know, talking about yourself, or at least in my case, is one of the hardest things to do. You know, and so yeah, I think that's about it.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

That's it. That I mean that's a good start. So that's a good that's a good that's a good you. So hey, if you know Jay and you're listening to this, go ahead and comment below who is Jay beyond the bio. So maybe some of your sorority sisters will jump in and be like, well, let me tell you who Jay is. So um, okay, so I thought this was a fun, good first question. Uh because you're not so much a new comic anymore. You're a but in the grand scheme of things, you're a newer comic, but you've been doing it, you said, for about three years, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:17

So almost in October, it'll be three years.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Okay, very cool. And you've done so much in those three years. So it's are you're you're on a good start, if that's what we want to call it. It feels weird to say like on a good start. It also feels weird to call comedians like up and coming because like you're you're doing it. You are you have already you're you've come, you know, like you're like it's you know, it's levels to this.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Yeah. So I definitely think I I even I even refer to myself as your favorite up and coming comedian. I I don't definitely don't think I've made it yet. And a lot of that has to do with you know exposure and and money. Right. So you're trying to reach that benchmark where people are willing to pay you enough to live off of. Absolutely. And I'm definitely not there.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Not there yet. Not there yet. But we all gotta start somewhere and we all gotta move forward. So, but so in your three years, what has been either your favorite part of comedy, or if you have like a favorite like memory or experience, or just what's been something that's just been absolutely awesome in your experience of doing comedy?

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Well, early on, um, going to Las Vegas and performing at Jimmy Kimmel's comedy club, that was, I mean, that that was my first year in comedy, and that was a definitely definite high because everybody wants to perform on a strip.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

And I had the opportunity to do so. And then while I was there, a friend of mine, uh also fellow comedian Rob Love, he was performing at Dre's, and his promoter let me come on and do a few minutes. So I I mean, it ended up being a twofer and at two very popular venues on on you know on the strip. So yeah, that that that was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

I love experiences like that because you know, sometimes it it just kind of happens, but when it happens, you're like, man, I want this all the time. So it kind of gives you like kind of gives you like a goal of like I want to get it.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

And at the second show at Dre, Shang was hosting, and you know, that's one of the OGs of been around forever. So to get to work with artists such as him, and that's probably where most of my highlights come in when I've gotten to work with people like Shang and Damon Williams. And um, I was with um Joe Tory a few weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Yeah. Um, so it yeah, the stuff like that. Have you had any uh like conversation with them or any like it has any of the the more famous people ever given you any kind of like insight or maybe even or either like good advice or like or maybe like a there's like a fun story or anecdote about well, you know, most of them say the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Um, keep hitting the stage, you know. Um whether it's you know ones in Memphis that are well respected, like Prescott, um, Tony Tone, but uh they all pretty much have the same advice. Keep getting on that stage. The more you're on the stage, the better you'll get.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Yes. And I love hearing that we're still saying that in southern because sometimes it feels like in this age of like social media and stuff like that, everyone's worried about getting viral or like getting viral, that's not the right way of saying going viral.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Um well it helps. I mean, look at how many people have been able to launch successful comedy careers after going viral, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:20

So it it certainly helps. I just I'm old fashioned in that it's like as you go viral, make sure you have some good content.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Amen.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

As you know, as as you're getting bigger and filling up those rooms, make sure you got some funny jokes up there. And and that comes with going on stage all as much as possible.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Well, you can tell who has really really studied the craft. You can because I mean there's always this debate between you know people who are more traditional comedians and people who became comedians off of social media, but um, and and you can like I said, you can tell the people that have put in the work. Right. Absolutely. And I think being funny on social media is totally different than doing stand-up work.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

It is, it is a hundred percent different. It's a different skill, it's a different and it's different both both, especially in today's age, are important, but they are it is, you know, kind of two different different parts of the job, so to speak. And it is interesting because there is a fine line because on one hand, humor is subjective, true, but on the other hand, there's a skill to stand up, there's a there's a skill to being funny on stage.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

And that's what I love about the route that I went because you know I started off by taking a class. Uh at La Toyota Tanila in Memphis. She's delightful. Yeah, wonderful. She was doing a women in comedy boot camp. And I all I knew I could write jokes because as you stated earlier, I used to write for the Tom Jordan Morning show where I would write for their weekend segment called Right Back at You, where he would go over, he would basically replay some of the stuff that happened during the week, and I would write the funny commentary, the intros and outros to the segments. I knew I could write. I wanted to see if I could stand up and deliver the jokes as well. But I had no intention of becoming a comedian. That was supposed to be a one in one and done. You know, to graduate the class, you had to do a stand-up routine.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

But when it was over, Latoya was like, you know, you're actually pretty good, and we could use more clean comedians. So I kept doing it and I said I would keep doing it as long as I'm enjoying myself. That's and I I am still enjoying the ride. I I am. And it's not, it's not a bad way to make some extra money.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

No, it's so much fun. It's it's so much fun where you're and when you're not stressed about it, when it's not like when there's not so much pressure out, like, oh, I this I have to do this show to lead to the next show, to lead to the next opportunity. But when you get to go there, take in the experience, you know, if you're getting paid for it, that's even wonderful. Yeah, even more, you know, even more wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Well, for me, it's definitely my personality. And early on, when I when I'm my first public facing career was radio, and I said, I never wanted to do anything that I could not invite my grandmother to. And don't get me wrong, she's she's deceased now. But any family member, um, I grew up in a in a Christian household with strong moral values, and it I just don't want I don't want to see them in the audience cringing.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Or they have to get up and walk out like, nah, that wasn't for me. I would like to be able to invite anybody to in my family to anything I would do. And they and they can watch it. And yeah, that's just and it like you said, it's more comfortable for me. I remember once I was auditioning for a TV role, uh, or something, something local going on, and it and it had profanity. And the dude looked at me when I got done. He said, Next time you're not comfortable cussing, just tell the person. Yeah, I was like, it was that obvious. Yeah, that's true. And I don't do well, I can't say I don't, I don't cuss. I'm just gonna be real. I I don't cuss publicly. I do a few words do fly from time to time, but that that is not my my everyday personality.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

And I think that's so important when you're doing stand-up to lean into what you're comfortable with and not feel like you have to force it because authenticity really helps us be funny or not, if we're not, you know, if we're not like and so folks that like don't want it, like that it feels very awkward to cuss in front of people or or not, or I love that you for you, you know, it's like I want to do any joke I do, I would want my family or my grandma to be there, and then you're comfortable with it. But like if the it for any comedian listening, if you're ever working on stuff, and even if it works, if you if you don't like the way it sounds, if you don't like how you feel after you say that joke, there is nothing wrong with deciding I'm just not gonna do that joke because or changing or changing it. Yeah, that yeah, if you're able to change it, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

It's your show. That's the great thing. You can do anything you want with it. I mean, when I've talked to to other comedians, they say clean is a lot harder. And and it's it's natural, it's easy, it flows for me. Yeah, but yeah, do do what works for you.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

I like that. So so um you we were to speaking of kind of backtracking a little bit, but we were talking about uh the the phrase up and coming uh comic and how uh in 2025 you got the uh up and uh best up and coming comic award for the Memphis Urban Last Comedy Festival. So uh what was that like, or like what was the festival like? Or have was that your first year doing the festival? It was not.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

La Toya puts on a great festival every year. And the crazy thing was I missed the award. Um, I I I was not, I was um, I actually battled with depression. And I was having one of those days, and I just knew I wasn't gonna win. And but I was like, I'm gonna go. I'm I am going to go. So I drug getting in there and I'm en route and I start getting all these texts. You won, you won, you won.

unknown 14:34

I was like, oh my god, how was it even there?

SPEAKER_00 14:37

But once I got there, they let me say a few words, and I could have kicked myself for that one. Yeah, I mean, they still let me have a moment, but I I I had just convinced myself that I wasn't going to get it. But you know, that's what depression is. Yeah, it's it's horrible feelings about yourself and the things around you. But I um I had convinced myself that I wasn't gonna get it and there was no need to rush.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

But um the f I I encourage anybody to come to the festival. Great workshops. You get to see some great comedy from from artists you may or may not have ever heard of. Um, and I think next year is gonna be the tenth year.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

I believe it's gonna, yeah, it's gonna be tenth year. So, you know, if if you and it's all types of comedy, get to Memphis.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

It's a good time. It's usually in the fall.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Yeah, I want September-ish, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

I yeah, I won't even try.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

I don't even yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

I I said that, I was like, that might not actually be true. But I I know I'm wearing boots, uh, so yeah, it's in the fall.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

That is a really good festival. I believe I've been part of it twice, maybe three times, but um, it's it's been a really I it's I it's I enjoyed it. Of course, I I love the Memphis comedy scene. Uh I always tell people, uh, I learned the skill of comedy in Nashville when I started, but then I was in the Memphis area for like six years, and I feel like that really gave me like heart, the kind of heart I have for comedy. Nashville kind of gave me the skills, but Memphis, like the people I connected with and met with in Memphis helped me.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

What I can say about Memphis is Memphis has the friendliest comedy scene. I I had so many people who just kind of encouraged me and gave me opportunities. Um, you know, you hear these stories about people that are cutthroat and hating on you and that type of thing. I have not gotten that. Thank God, knock on wood that it does not happen.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

But so far, um, this industry has been really sweet and welcoming to me, and and I appreciate it because I may not, I mean, I might not have stuck with it if I kept um encountering not so nice people. Right. But you know, people like you. Anytime I'm coming to Nashville and I Drew, what's going on? And you gladly, willingly, cheerfully text me back.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, and and we love having you here. But I and I think it's important. I'm not gonna say that comedy and entertainment doesn't have like the competitiveness, the cut hutt throateness, uh, the the toxicness. Um, because that all is part of the entertainment. But I think it's so important to find the people that aren't like that, that are life-giving to you, and surround yourself with those people. And the more you do it, the more you find in addition, maybe maybe you do see some, you know, not great things, but you also see the people that you mesh with well. And then I just for me, I'm realizing now at this stage in comedy, um, even though stand-up comedy is kind of by nature a solo thing, like you're on stage just by yourself. It doesn't you in a mic. Yeah, it just it but in general, it doesn't have to be a solitary thing. You can have your people, you can have your team, you can have your connections, you can have and that gives you the strength to kind of keep going, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Yeah, but I'm I'm just so grateful that I have not encountered people who feel threatened by me or conniving. Yeah. And just yeah, they they want you to win.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Yeah. I wonder if it's also too part of your your vibe, like you just come across as just a friendly person. And so I think it might be harder. Um I said you come across. You are a friendly person. You you fake it so unwise. But and I don't know, like when people meet you, maybe they feel the less need to have their guard up. Maybe they feel less need to, you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Maybe, and then I'm just laid back. I'm I'm I'm I'm very laid back. So I'm I'm sitting back. Um and I'm also a student of comedy, so I spend a lot of time observing rather than talking. I I I love to go to comedy shows and just soak up what everybody else is doing, especially when there are people who have been doing it like 10 plus years, that because I I have so much more to learn.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Absolutely. I I feel the same way, and I've been doing it for close to 15 years, but I still yeah, yeah. I've been I started in 20, so I guess I've probably been doing it 13 years. I started in 2012. Um, but I still very much value going to shows and just watching and just learning and seeing. Um I when I teach classes, I to I encourage new coming in to do that. Um, you know, the way I say it is I say, you know, you can learn from the good and the bad. You can whatever whatever happens on stage is a teachable moment. Another question I thought of while we were talking, um, because you mentioned uh you struggle with depression, um, and you mentioned because we've talked about it for this whole podcast that you do comedy. Um and I know um I know how sometimes it's you know hard to be in comedy or do comedy or participate in the open mics when you also struggle with like depression. And so I for for and for myself, you know, sometimes there's times when I know um maybe I don't need to go out tonight, or or the time or then there's some times where I have to kick myself on the butt and say you need to go out tonight, you know. So so um has that been kind of a sh any kind of struggle, or do you have a way of kind of balancing the two? Or like how does how does that work with uh being an entertainer and also struggling with depression? Because that's a common thing that entertainers have to deal with.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Well, I I keep in mind the end gold, you know, on when it comes to an open mic, you don't have to go. But if I've booked the gig and I said I'm going to be there, I'm going to push through. I mean, I I do have mild depression, so it's it's not it's not extreme. Yeah, so a lot of days I can I may be able to maneuver it myself, do something to cheer myself up, you know, yeah, call the right person to get me in a good headspace, play some music that I that I need to listen to, or sometimes just take it a little bit slower. Like I didn't get to the award show on time, but I got there.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

There we go. That's good.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

So so there are ways that I am able to to work around it and and and get through it. Um standing on stage was really hard at first, but I I've I've gone, I think I've done pretty well with that as well. Yeah. So it's it's a process.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

Yeah, I love that. Let's talk gospel girls.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

I uh I don't think I've actually talked to you much about this, but I know with the Clean Comedy Collective, we promoted some of the shows and we've seen it on the website. Uh, and I just think it's so cool. And so I'd love to hear more about your gospel girls comedy show, how that works, uh, how's it going, and all all the all the things.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Well, the gospel girls of comedy was the brainchild of Chuck Hildreth, which is a promoter in Memphis, and he wanted to put together four women that did clean gospel comedy. And so it's uh myself, Quinn Kelly, who's amazing, uh still feel, and Latoya Tanil is the host. Okay. And we've done maybe four or five shows together. You know, it we're still gaining momentum, but it's been good. Uh, we I think of those we've done, we've maybe sold out three.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Um, and we all bring something different and unique to the table.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

I was just thinking that's a very cool group of ladies. Like, that's it, like that's fun. Like that in addition to being a good show, that's that'd be that's like a fun hang.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

We have a good time. We we do. And we're all at we're all in different stages in life. So we have things that's different things to talk about. You know, Quinn is a is a new mother, she just had another baby, and both her kids are under the age of five. Latoya Teneal's children are both in college now. I have no kids. Um, still feel is is more seasoned. Uh, but she lived an amazing life as a dancer before she started doing comedy. So we all bring this just this. Different vibe to the show. For sure.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

And it's been great. And that's wonderful because it can connect to different audience members. Like different people will see one of you and connect to your act more. And it's not that they might not connect to the other acts, they might still find them funny, but they'll find one of y'all more relatable. And like, oh that I see me and that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Yeah, and it's a great show for the Christian community. You know, anybody that that loves the Lord, loves to laugh. Yeah. You do both. If you attend church on a regular, you know, there's these little little idiosyncrasies or things that we do in church that that we just get. And and they're hilarious. I know one one guy said church is not funny, but the people in church it are funny. And I would have to agree. Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

Absolutely. It's funny. It's it's uh I I I find a lot of humor in you know cult the culture around it and some of the things that we do. And and it's not it's not like I'm laughing because I'm making fun of it, but I'm just laughing because it's like I get how important this is, but also it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Yeah, because you used to be a youth pastor, right? So yeah, I'm sure you have plenty of jokes during that from that time in your life.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Well, yeah, there's the um just the the things people would randomly come up to you and say after church, you know, or after a ceremony, or after like that. It's it's very relate, and it's probably very relatable to comedians after a show, too. So but oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Everybody wants to be a comedian after a show.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Have you had any fun about doing comedy?

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Go do it.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

That that is always my my my response. Do it with stopping you. You know, everybody says I'm so funny, do it. Go to an open mic, see how you do.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Yeah, the it's write some jokes, yeah. Do it and d getting up there or like the getting to do comedy isn't the hard part. It's like learning how to do it might be, you know, there's a skill to it, but like anyone who's ever interested in comedy, it's it's not that hard to go up and and sign up for an open mic or not at all.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

And we don't have a monopoly on this, so please. Uh uh this is one of those feels where it kind of feels like the more the merrier.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

I think so too. Yeah, is every everyone has a perspective, and that that perspective probably connects with an audience somewhere. So um, you were we were talking about uh everyone's being a everyone thinks they're a comedian after a show. Have you had anyone come up to you after a show and say something really funny or something really or not even just after a show, like but you being a comedian and people knowing you as a comedian, do people ever come up to you with the whole like, oh, I've got a joke for you, or like uh something random?

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Not really. I get mostly people who actually know me who are surprised that I am funny. Oh because I I tell people I'm not funny in real life. I I am funny on stage. You know, some people are the life of the party and they're always cracking jokes. I am not that person. And I'm I'm not I don't think I've cracked a joke since we've been sitting here. But um, so people who actually know me, they they're surprised right after they see me on stage. So that is probably the the biggest comment I got. You were really funny.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

I get I get the uh you were actually funny because it's like I think they think I'm probably not funny. They like they probably like he tries, but then when I get home, but uh I do. Um it's fun uh where I work during the day, I'll occasionally have people walk in the like the front office and they'll be like a guy literally laughs because, like, hey, I thought of a joke and I wanted to tell it to you. And they there's some people seem to have enjoyment in telling a comedian a joke. Like so, so I I don't I don't I don't know what it is, but um I thought and and I always laugh just to be polite.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Oh, yeah, whether it was funny or not, I I generally just go ahead and laugh.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

A hundred percent. If you're gonna go through the effort of telling me one on one, I mean that's like doing a comedy show for one audience member, and I'm like, that's rough. I'll I'll be a good audience member. I'll so um um so we talked about gospel girls. Um oh um, I know what I want to talk to you about. Um I learned I learned this morning when I was researching you that you're an author. You've written 11 books. I have. Um, and so uh, and I've also learned you're a speaker and you do voiceover and radio DJ. So we're gonna unpack all of that. But uh let's let's talk about your being an author since that's literally one of the reasons why you came here to Nashville this week was to talk about your book. Uh tell me about your books or like why you write or the pro I don't just you know, let's talk more about authorship.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Well, I can't say when I I haven't published anything outside of a pre- outside of a children's book in like the last five years. Um so but um I I started really I was in my 20s when I started writing, and I was just venting. I was venting about dating. I uh uh yeah, I was single, Christian, and dating, and it was not going well. That's a dangerous combination. That's rough for a lot of folks. Well, um, men didn't want you, they really didn't want a practicing Christian woman. They wanted a woman that was familiar with church vernacular and protocol. You know, if they took you to their grandmother's church, you would not embarrass them. Yeah, you knew what to wear, you knew what to say, you weren't trying to put your hand in the collection plate for change, you know, you knew what communion was, you know. Yeah, well, they give us this little cracker for you. You know, they wanted people that were familiar with church. Absolutely. But when it came to I know I'm I'm trying to do the right thing, I'm trying to live a a Christian life. I don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Wait, you actually do what you believe that? Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 27:21

No, that they didn't want that they didn't want to hear that part. Um, so I I was and then because I actually started writing in college. Um, and at that time I was really, I was, I was a good girl, and I was gonna I was gung-ho about I was gonna wait for marriage to have sex. And so I was venting and then I graduated, forgot about it, didn't worry about it. And all my friends, or several of my friends, started publishing books. And then I remembered I had written this, and one of my friends, um, La Trivia Nelson, she had actually started a publishing company. Oh cool. So I sent her what I had written and said, if I finish this, I have maybe 50 pages. If I finish this, would you publish it for me? And she was like, Absolutely. So that's what got it started. And so my first books ended up being a trilogy, Someday, Someday Two, and Forever and a Day. And um, I it was for Christian singles. And it was about a woman who was dating and just going through this journey, and and she met a man who was a former NFL player, but also had a stalker, a very relentless stalker. And it was about how they were trying to maneuver through this relationship uh without getting seriously injured. And so that's what got me started. And then after that, I wrote a couple of books of short stories, Things Every Good Woman Should Know, Volume 1 and Volume Two. And volume two is now, you know, I'm I'm full-grown adult dating. And so volume two has a subtitle, Dear God, did my bo ass get hit by a bus. I mean, because like where I thought I'd be married by 25, have all my children by 30, and I'm not even in a serious relationship. What's going on? And then after that, I wrote a book called Husband Wanted. I'm sure you're noticing the theme now, uh, which is was about the different ways that women try to find love. Um, there are three sisters who are beautiful, intelligent, but their grandmother, who was a millionaire, uh publishing house million heiress, did not understand why they did not all have husbands. So when she died, she put in her will that in order to get their inheritance, which was quite a bit, they had to be married in nine months. So, you know, somebody tried online dating, somebody was trying to make their failed relationship, they were in work. Um, one person, she had a whole roster and she was trying to figure out who out who out of the roster should I marry. Yeah. So that's that's what that book um was into. Because at that time I was, I was, I think I was starting just to get into online dating myself. And it was an it's an interesting journey. Yeah, that's a field.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

That is a thing that exists.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

And you know, when I got into it, I think the uh the hot ones were what plenty of fish, Black Planet, which wasn't supposed to be a dating site, but it was. Um, and um, and it was one other, and it it's just yeah, because I only did the free ones.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

I I I was I wasn't paying. I've often thought that's my problem is I just invest free for the dating sites, and I'm like, you get what you pay for.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

You know, I tried um the other ones a little bit later. Oh, but no, I'm but I actually met my husband on Facebook dating.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Rich.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

I did.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

Really?

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

I mean that's wonderful. Also, that is one of it feels like that's one of the sketchiest ones.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

They they've changed since I was on it. I mean, I haven't been on it in quite some time, but I I've it they became ho a lot of them became hookup central, you know, just just uh people who just were trying to hook up whether they are were already in a relationship, some of them were married. So you you know, you learned how to look for the signs, why they only texted you certain times of the day. Oh yeah, and they could only talk certain times of the day, um, or why they never why they rarely seemed interested in meeting you or you know, you want to meet at some random place.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

So you yeah, you there's all kinds of yeah, there's all kinds of warning signs you pick up in the the almost like the non-verbal texting communication, right? Most definitely. And so um now that husband one book sounds like it'd be a fantastic like movie. Like that's a rom-com.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Like that's some well, that's one we need to get on once you want to learn how to write screenplays so I can um because I've wanted to change my first series um into a into something for quite some time. So we'll see what the future holds. Yeah, but I tell anybody if you want to try um online dating, go for it. I mean, there are plenty of people who have met the right one, myself included, on online dating. You just have to be careful. I mean, exhibit the same rules that you would if you had met them in the grocery store. Don't invite people to your house too soon, meet them at the location. If they start saying things that you're not interested in, I mean, it's easier to cut somebody off when you've never seen them before. Yeah. If they're they're they're alluding to conversations and things that you're just not interested in. Stop responding.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. You know, I mean, that it's not like you have to if you start a text conversation or something, you owe them like your life, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

You don't owe anybody anything. Um at the end of the day, it's it's your safety, your well-being. You know, I remember I had a guy um that got mad at me because I wasn't always readily available to him. But I at the time I had a business, and I mean, it's just a small home-based business, and I was focused on my business. So if he called me and I'm the type person, if I care, I'll hit you right back. I'm in the middle of a phone call, I'll um, I'll I'll text you. I'm in the middle of a call, give you a call in 10 minutes, 15 minutes. My break will be over then. You must be in a relationship. You're never available when I am. I mean, we did not schedule a call, sir. No, I'm in the middle of a conference call.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

And I wonder if anyone's ever gotten that kind of response and be like, wow, this makes me like you more. Let me respond quicker.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

I was just like, I don't have a boyfriend, but I am very busy at this point in my life. And if that's a problem for you, okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

What would you say were the greatest benefits of writing uh being an author, like putting those books out on paper and getting on it?

SPEAKER_00 33:17

Therapy. Yeah, it it it is therapy. Getting all that stuff out. Um, but you know, uh if you're angry, put it on paper. I mean, still to this day, I might write out a Facebook post um and and then just delete it, or I put it in in what is it, view me only? Yeah, me only. Yeah, I did it. So nobody sees it at all.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Or or I mean, yeah, it just sometimes you just need to get it out. Yep. And then my last group of books, I had a I wrote with a male author called Mario D. King, which would this was the most fun I've ever had writing a book. It was about friendships with benefits, and I wrote from the female perspective, and he wrote from the male perspective. That's cool. And it was like a battle because we were trying to outdo each other in the chapters. So as soon as he would send me his chapter, I couldn't wait to read it and see what I could do to his character with my character to make it more interesting. Oh, that's yeah. It's um it's uh where do we go from here one? Where do we go from here two? And from here to there.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

Okay, very cool. And for anyone listening, uh, we are on all the episode notes. So whether you're listening to us on YouTube slash watching us, but uh or any of the any of the Buzz Sprout, Spotify, whatever, if you go to the episode description, um, I'll have Jay's website linked, and on her website you can access all of her books. So uh you know, unless you're driving, if you're if any of those interests you right now, pause and go get go get it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Yeah, so I say I write inspirational romance, which is the edgier side of Christian fiction and contemporary fiction. So, and my stories are fables for adults because everything has a moral to it. Um, everything I'm trying to teach a lesson or make you think about something.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's fun. Now, so when and you're also a speaker as well. Do you speak about uh similar topics or like based off of your books, or do you like what do you do as a public speaker?

SPEAKER_00 35:03

It just depends on the topic. Now, when um when I was heavy into the author circle, I did a lot more speaking that I do not, especially and when I was in radio. I don't do a whole lot of things where I'm just speaking. People would rather hear me tell a joke these days, uh, but uh it usually has to do with um a lot of it had to do with Christian singles at one time, but now I'm not single anymore.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Yeah, so no nobody cares what you have to say. We have to find out we have a five- we have to find another Christian single.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

I mean, but I tell people I can I I would still love to speak on the topic because I was single for so long. I mean, I got married at the age of uh right before my 47th birthday. So I was so I learned so much uh about being single and especially during those during those years when I was really trying to live right and um just loving yourself because once you once you get past 40, a lot of women we had we do have to start facing the reality that it may never happen. So my question is what's next? Yeah. Um I I did not want to be what I call a woe is me single, which is where you're unhappy because you don't have a spouse. That's uh that no, I I get it. We all want someone, yeah. But you have to look at what's going right. I mean, are you healthy? Do you have a job? Do you have a roof over your head? Do you have transportation? Are you making money and you're able to travel and do the things that do you that you love? Let's focus on that and and and try to have the best life we possibly can with where we are in life.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

The biggest lesson that I can tell any person, but especially a single person, it is nobody's job to make you happy but you. Yep. Now people can come and add to your happiness, they can even detract from your happiness if you're letting the wrong person in. But the the joy that you have deep down inside, nobody can ever take that from you. It's a it's a mindset thing. It's like it's like when you've decided to have a good day, and this ugly, nasty, rude person comes up to you and you still decide to have a good day. They tried to ruin your day, but you're not, uh, not today, Satan.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

And you laugh and keep having a great day.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

One thing I've learned through just lots of comedy shows and watching audiences and stuff like that is to an extent, being offended is a choice. To an extent, having a bad day is a choice.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

It can be.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Now there's absolutely extenuating circumstances, but when someone says something wrong, when someone does something wrong, when something happens, you choose where you're gonna go from there, you know. Like what she said, what's next?

SPEAKER_00 37:41

And even with comedy, because you know, you have those moments when you bomb, I would take it so to heart. I mean, it would it, I it would probably take me anywhere from 24 to 48 hours to get over it when I had a bad show. Yeah, and even if it was an open mic and I'm just trying, I mean, because I wanted to do well so badly. But I had and so people who could just shake it off afterward. I mean, Queen Kelly, she I mean, and don't get me wrong, we've all gotten we started at the same time, and we've gotten so much better on time over time. But those early moments when we were still learning the craft and we wouldn't get the laughs that we wanted, and she's a bubbly person anyway. She'd be bubbly after it. Yeah, and and I and I'm I'm sitting over in a corner like my day was just ruined because those jokes that I thought were so hilarious in the shower didn't work when other people were in the room.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

I relate to that so much because when I first started, uh one bomb would set my whole week. Yeah, it would, it would just, it would mess with me. Uh, and but to to your point uh that you were we were talking about earlier in this episode was uh the one of the importance of getting as much stage time as possible is it's kind of like you learn how to take a punch. It's kind of like bombing happens, it's part of comedy, and the more you do it, the less it bothers you.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Yeah, and you also learn how to pivot. Okay, that joke is not working. Let's go in a direction where I I've tried these jokes. Yep. And I so you you end on a high note instead of a low note. Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

So you know, we've talked about you as a comedian, we've talked about you as an author, we've talked about you as a speaker. We didn't talk much about it, but you as a radio DJ and also um as a voiceover artist, um, and you so you do all these things. Is there one that kind of brings you the most joy, or is it has it been kind of like at different stages in life, or is there like one that just really stands out that's like your favorite thing, or is it kind of like all of them and just whatever?

SPEAKER_00 39:32

I would say different stages in life because you know, um I started off in radio straight out of college, and radio led to voiceovers because you know, you you learn that you can get paid for doing these commercials. I don't do them as much as I used to because the company that I used to work for folded, and I never went to through all the steps to set up a home studio to keep continuing to do it. But um, you know, it was a great point in my life. I did I had some pretty big spots. Um, Ben and Jerry's, I did McDonald's, I think I had a Kroger spot. So it's I love eating at all those places. And yes, and and then the fact that you get I got paid just to talk. Yeah, I I what I'm doing right now, they just gave me a script for it. So I I really enjoyed, and I would love doing more of it. I just don't put forth the effort, and then the market is so much more saturated than when I started. And anybody with a microphone and a laptop can now do voiceovers before you needed to go to a studio and then you had a producer that did all the editing for you in most cases, or I would send my raw voice to a person. Um, you know, there I mean, I don't I don't want to audition for something that I saw 500 people already audition for. Right. Or, you know, when you get on these sites that cater to that. Um, so I don't really do that anymore. And then while I was doing that, I was writing books, which it was a great ride. It it was, but just like comedy, it can be grueling. And the thing about me, and in addition to all my other issues, they didn't call it ADHD back then, but I would get easily distracted. So after I I was one of those people that after I've accomplished this goal, I start to lose interest. So even though I I wrote all of those, you know, there are people who write their entire career. I mean, there's some people who have like 50, 60 books. Uh after maybe about book nine, 10, I was like, you know, I don't really want to do this anymore. It's a lot of effort and and time, energy, and money because going to these book conventions and setting up tables, playing vent paying vendor fees, it's expensive. And until you reach a point where, you know, ever your household name and everybody knows you, it's coming out of your pocket. They're not paying you to come. And and maybe if I had stuck with it a little bit longer, I would well, I know I would. I would be at that point right now. God, I hope I would be. But I I I fell off. I did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

And um, so it's it's it's all about you, you could say like I fell off, but you don't say like you moved on, you moved in a different direction.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

I did that. I moved on. Yeah. Um, and my last book, which was a children's book, which I released um maybe about two, three years ago, it's um prayers for Jenia. My friend is sick, what can I do? That was written for a child who was battling cancer in St. Jude. Um, I I was dating her uncle at the time, and then she became a very big part of my life. And um, and I wanted something, I wanted to do something special for her, but I also wanted to still have something tangible around in case she didn't make it. And unfortunately, Janaya did not make it. She passed when she was 18. But um, I'm very proud of that book. And it also teaches children who have friends that have chronic diseases that what you can do for them. When you have that friend that's always in the hospital, or um, and you know, in their times when you may not be able to come see them, you can always pray for them. Yeah, you can write them a letter, you can send them a card, do something to brighten their day when they're not feeling well.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

Yeah, that's so true. Wow. Well, well, that is thank you for that answer. That's a good point. I'm sorry about your friend. That's um, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

I'm still very close to her mom. We talk all the time, and so you know, it was a blessing.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Yeah, it still is for sure. So, uh, what would you say is your biggest with stand-up comedy since you've started standing up comedy? What's been like the biggest challenge that you've had to overcome since uh starting?

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Stand-up comedy. Um I wouldn't call it well, maybe you can see it as a challenge, but the one place that I want to improve is crowd work. Um, I I want to be able to incorporate the audience into my show. And that and and there is a um that's a craft. Yeah. That's a skill. That's definitely a skill. You know, so to be in because it's impromptu. You can have your set for the most part memorized, but give yourself some flexibility. ability but you never know who's gonna walk into walk through that door and what they're gonna say to you and how you can respond and bring them into the experience for sure so that's one part of the comedy that I am definitely trying to get better at.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Yeah I feel that because crowd work isn't my natural thing either and I'm also trying to get better at it and one thing I found that has helped though is um even at the open mics I always try like one little thing at the beginning of my routine just one and and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't I do feel like over the years or I think I've been trying this about a year or two over the past couple years I feel like it's gotten better but like I wouldn't again I wouldn't put myself as a crowd work comic. Imagine but I feel like it helped it's made it a little bit easier.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

And it's so funny when you see people who have this amazing crowd work um but you're not so crazy about their stand up but but going into that room and just having fun with the crowd they're totally in their element.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

Absolutely there's yeah there's that I feel the same I can think of comedians who I I love it when I see them get up and uh and and just interact with the crowd. And then you then they get into their material and part of me is like I I wish you'd still talk to the crowd.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Like and then there are people that are great at both.

SPEAKER_02 45:09

Mm-hmm. Yep. And I think it's important because I've heard plenty of comedians say that crowd work isn't real comedy and I disagree with that. So not even though it's not my particular style I can honestly say like there's a lot of talent and skill that goes into being a good crowd work comic.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

Being able to do impromptu improvise off the cuff whatever you want to call it that is a skill.

SPEAKER_02 45:32

For sure. It really is and it's cool it's a it's a cool and and and some people are more naturally talented at it and that's okay. But um okay so now we're gonna do the ask a comedian section of the podcast. So for everyone who's listening who maybe does doesn't know about this um you have the option at any point even you can literally send uh press the send us mail option on our our episode today um but you can send in any kind of question that you'd like to ask a comedian it can be a comedy related question or it could be a completely random related like nothing to do with comedy. And uh you can do this on Facebook you can do this on Instagram on threads um at Drew Davis Comedy that's all my stuff but I I about once a month uh ask people if they have any questions but uh you don't have to wait for me to ask I literally had someone one time email me be like hey here's a question you should add to your list so uh this just we ask a few questions to our comedians each week and uh earlier before we hit record uh Jay picked the three numbers that I asked I just feel like that runs a lot smoother than uh me asking you on site to pick three and so here are the questions uh so here's the first one it comes to us from Instagram from Bo Callen he's a comedian here in Nashville um and his question is what's your favorite comedy club food?

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Wings absolutely most of the time when I go to a comedy club I am ordering the wings and everybody makes them different it's true they they there there's the I knew that wings were you know when wings started to get really expensive one comedy club started selling drumming drummies and I mean and not drummies like where you chop the wing drum actual drumsticks instead of wings I like and that was funny within itself you know I I had my honey gold drumsticks I prefer I prefer the drumsticks over the the the I guess the wing part of it I always do whenever you because you get ready i i was I was not ready because when the waitress told me it really didn't register you're like what when she set like five big drumsticks in front of me yep so if you don't like dark meat you're in a problem yeah you know that's a problem. That's a problem but well if you don't like dark meat but I've always loved the drumsticks even as a kid that's the part of the chicken that I wanted.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

I feel like that's the I I I a hundred percent approve of places that just sell the drumsticks like I'm I I would I would I would pay extra for just drumsticks. I've only seen it once and and I've only seen it once yeah usually you get both um but the drumsticks are better so that's okay that's a good answer. Okay this next question came from Catherine Rogue on Facebook. She's also a clean comedy collective comedian um and this is a fun one because I feel like everyone has a different answer to this uh but what uh rituals do you do uh or excuse me what rituals do you go through before you go on your show I try to get by myself and go over my jokes.

SPEAKER_00 48:15

Um sometimes I will play um happy music you know I'll be out some you know for real uh happy feet something like just something to to h to I I can't say I want to be hyped up. I don't necessarily want to be hyped up but I want to be in a makes you more positive. Yeah it makes sense so like like when I drive to Nashville I'm going to spend that time in the car going over my set that just and then you know that that's actually the perfect time to I can I got I I got time at that point. So to try to to try to get my time down and then I also come up with some really good jokes they're a the a different way to veer off of what I'm already doing when I'm driving. So that's generally what I try to do right before I I do a show.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Yeah I love that last question this one comes uh from threads from someone named Joshua so I knew the other two I don't know I don't know I don't all right Joshua let's see uh and this is so funny because uh you referenced this early in the earlier in the conversation and I knew that we were gonna be ending with this question uh but what is your end goal for comedy? My end goal and I think you said I don't normally put goals and stuff together.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Well yeah I I definitely want to get to the point where I can live off of this I want this to be my career. I've real this is not a bad way to make living at all. So that is what where my end goal is and and what that looks like I'm sure it'll appear over time. Will I be a traveling comedian at all times? I mean I'm hoping maybe I get a good enough social media following to where that could be a nice chunk of my income uh will I do I mean will I do more um will I will I venture into films or things like that I I don't know but I I do know that I I want to stick with this this is this I I don't want my ADHD I won't you know they got so many terms I think I said that right ADHD I don't want this to be one of the times where it kicks in I'm like oh I've accomplished that goal I'm good yeah I mean unless I win the lottery then I'm like no I'll be then then you can just do a show you you get booked so often you're like you just gotta pay me a dollar dollar and I'll so I can count it for taxes and then I'll do it for and everyone be like we'd love to have you come do the show. So yeah that that that's my end goal.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

I like that goal um because I like that because it's a it's a tangible real life goal. So many comedians uh when they start or even as they go on their goal is to and and it's just to become famous to be well known among everyone and uh unfortunately that's not uh that's not a very quantifiable goal and that's not one that we have a lot of control over. To just say I want everyone to know me and and and it's hard to tell because some what works for some people doesn't work for others and you kind of never know until it's working or not working. But today it will say like you know I'd like to make money from this.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

Yeah I mean I'm not interested in being superstar status. I I don't want to be a Kevin Hart. I don't there's a lot of responsibility that comes with that but I I do want to be I guess in that middle tier yeah to where you can charge thousands to come but and and and this may sound crazy but people aren't threatened by you and they're always trying to sabotage. Right absolutely people are trying I mean somebody tried to set him up you know when he went through that whole sex scandal yeah absolutely I don't need people yeah we don't need to I don't I don't I don't I don't want people always gunning for me because they think for whatever they think yeah but I just want to be able to I just want to be comfortable enjoying my life making some money and and as people say out the way yeah I am out of the way do your thing and everyone else doing theirs and that's totally fine.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

You know what though I think you'll find as you continue to do this um and I've I've seen this in in my own career and it's one of my favorite things but I just just knowing you and what like a relatable and approachable and nice person and the heart you have behind your comedy uh you will find that you know you even if you don't become famous where everybody knows you and you're everybody's favorite comedian uh you will find as you continue this that you'll build your fan base and there will be those people that uh your act help matters to them so much and it makes such a difference whether it's the positivity or whether it's it's their funniest joke that they know and um it is really cool when you know you don't have to be famous to everyone but when you have those few people that what you because what that means is what you're doing is making their life better. And that's a cool that's a cool feeling.

SPEAKER_00 52:46

Well comedy is medicine.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Yeah it it it is that laughter is medicine and if I can you know give you give you a good shot yeah every now and then to brighten your day or add to whatever you have going on and you leave feeling really good and you think it's money well spent or whether you got in for free you think it's time well spent that that I'm happy I'm happy and I I love I love it when I mean it's so nice when we have crowds of people or people that come to the comedy shows whether it's a crowd whether it's just a few people uh just in like like I love watching the enjoyment they get out of the show. So if you're someone who's been to our shows either me or Jay's or the Clean Comedy Collectives uh let me just take this time and say thank you for supporting us uh because it's life giving for us uh now Jay first of all thank you so much yeah it makes it makes a difference it really is first of all thank you you also for being on this podcast for for driving all the way from Memphis just for this podcast and for nothing else. Uh well I have some other stuff going on in there for nothing else but I I drove to Hendersonville that's true you drove yes thank you for driving to Hendersonville uh and meeting me at Waffle House even though I was already here um do you have uh anything you'd like to promote now this episode is going to be coming out on the first Saturday in May which I think is like a May 2nd or whatever um so just just so you know I'll cut that part out but yeah so is there anything you'd like to promote that's coming up or m maybe most importantly like where can people find you what how can people support you that kind of stuff you can support me by you can go to any of my social media it's what did jay say and J S V J A E.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Well you can find me under that fit Facebook Instagram uh YouTube I think YouTube is J Henderson and also you can always go to my go to my website it's the J Henderson.com and you can find where I will be doing comedy as well as you can find my books and anything else that I have because um I yeah I just I just like to I I was in that phase where I was writing any and everything. I mean I even have um I even have a little um I guess you call it a pamphlet I don't know a how to book it's called the for women who are who are celibate the keys to keeping your legs closed because yeah because when I was going through that journey I learned there are certain situations and things if you want to accomplish this goal that you need to keep yourself out of. I mean little little tricks that you can do for yourself to to try to keep your mind off of that day. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Yeah that's really cool. Well we'll check her out follow her on all of our social media go to her site I went to the site earlier today there's a lot of good stuff I was like this is a good site. Thank you. And you and if if you don't know where else to go you can find her on our cleancomedycollective dot com site. Most definitely in addition to 219 other comedians um and just always a friendly reminder uh check our site out check out what shows we have in your area check out uh other podcast episodes we interview different comedians each week and when things work out and I post every week then there's a new interview every week so we'd love for you to continue to listen to our podcast if you think about it drop us a review give us a five star rating drop a comment give that that kind of stuff helps us get the podcast out more so more people can see it and so it just kind of sticks out more. So that's very it's more honestly more helpful than I would have thought before I started doing podcasting um but it does make a difference. But thank you guys so much for listening. Jay thank you so much for being here.

SPEAKER_00 56:11

My pleasure thank you for having me Drew this was a good interview.

SPEAKER_02 56:14

This was great appreciate it and uh we will see you all next week for another chat you're welcome