Mom-Life Meets Mediumship: Intuition, Grief & Healing with Joy Giovanni

In this heartfelt episode of Mom-Life Podcast, Sonya Flores sits down with psychic medium, spiritual teacher, podcast host, and mom Joy Giovanni. Together, they explore the intersection of motherhood, intuition, grief, healing, and personal transformation.

Joy shares her journey from being a young mother and WWE performer to embracing her spiritual gifts and helping others navigate life's biggest questions. The conversation dives into trusting your intuition, supporting children in developing self-awareness, processing grief, healing after miscarriage, and finding connection with loved ones beyond this life.

Whether you're curious about spirituality, navigating loss, or simply looking for encouragement in your motherhood journey, this episode offers compassionate insights and meaningful takeaways for every mom.

Listen in for a conversation filled with hope, healing, and reminders that love never truly leaves us. 💜

If you'd like to connect with Joy, learn more about her work, attend one of her workshops, or listen to her podcast Spirit Speakeasy, visit joyfulmedium.com and follow her on social media @joyfulmedium.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Welcome back to Mom Life Podcast. The show where we have honest conversations about motherhood, resilience, faith, healing, and all the beautiful complexities that come with raising a family. I'm your host, Sonia Flores. And today we're diving into a topic that many moms are curious about, but don't always feel comfortable discussing. Intuition, spirituality, grief, and connection beyond what we can see. Joining us is Joy Giovanni, also known as Joyful Medium. Joy is a psychic medium, spiritual teacher, podcast host, former WWE Diva, that's right, holistic health practitioner, and most importantly, a mom. In this heartfelt conversation, Joy shares her journey from navigating life as a young mother to embracing her spiritual gifts, the lessons Motherhood has taught her about intuition, and how grief, love, and healing continue to shape her life. Whether you're curious about intuition, navigating loss, seeking hope after miscarriage, or simply looking for encouragement in your motherhood journey, this episode offers thoughtful insights and compassionate perspectives. Let's jump into this conversation with Joy Giovanni. This is Mom Life.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Wow, congratulations on the expansion of your family. How exciting. Thank you. Thank you so much. Um, mom's meeting you for the first time. Who are you beyond being a psychic medium?

SPEAKER_02 2:09

Oh my goodness, I feel like how long do you have? I mean, like most of us, I'm so many things. I'm a mom and a friend and a business owner and a human soul just trying to figure out my way in this crazy world. I've been a lot of different iterations of myself, everything from an actor. I still carry a holistic, like a national board certified holistic health practitioner designation. So I really am more about picking up the breadcrumbs on our path and letting all of those experiences shape us into all the roles that we play. And then hopefully ultimately the fullness of our soul's expression in this lifetime, right? That was probably a crazy answer for what you said.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

You know what? Get excited. That was an excellent segue into the next question I was gonna have for you because you have had such a full life, just as you had alluded to from WWE Diva to spiritual teacher. What moment shaped you the most as a woman and a mom?

SPEAKER_02 3:12

I think really, you know, I'm the type of person that likes to learn a lot in my life and feel like I can learn from all experiences ultimately, right? Through the self-reflection and introspection. But probably being a mom and the constant challenge that that is, not just as like navigating, trying to raise little humans, but then also the challenges and things that lights up in us just from our journey or the pressures that are put on us, you know, not to be gender biased, but specifically women, I think have a lot of different pressures. I'll say it that way. So that's the thing that maybe I still work on the most because my kids are adults now. They're 25 and 27 as we record this. Wow. And I am constantly needing to check in with myself. Sometimes I'm holding space for hard conversations. And I am here to tell you when they're grown, no one tells you that it's gonna be just as challenging to for me now sit there and say, like, what does support look like for you right now when really I want to give all the mom advice that you know maybe's not the time for? So it's parenting for sure.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Was there a defining moment where you realized I can't ignore this calling anymore?

SPEAKER_02 4:28

So many defining moments, but I think the one that maybe is the biggest defining moment is probably when I was still working for WWE. I was, you know, every week on TV in front of international audience. And I at the same time was simultaneously holding all the finances for not just my family, but extended family and just like everyone, bills and cars and houses. And then my contract collapsed and they decided to release a bunch of us at one time. And I get this call. Yeah, and for me, it felt like a huge sacrifice because I had just agreed to go with them full time, which felt as a mom, like not the thing I wanted to do and not why I even agreed to be with them. And I get this call, I'm like all packed, bags ready to go out the next morning, and this raspy voice of like there are basically the person that managed us. Like, it's not, you know, it's not personal, it's just business. And I was like, this was really personal to me. And I, it was a just a strange pivotal moment because I realized I wasn't even doing something I wanted to do. I felt like I had made all these concessions, and now here I was in like the shoots and ladders of my life, going like back to one and really trying to again felt like starting over, figuring out like what do I want to do? So that really sent me on the very long journey of finding my way to the gifts.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

Wow. Wow. How has becoming a mother deepened or changed your intuition?

SPEAKER_02 6:00

That's really interesting. And for me, maybe it's a different answer than most women. I was a very young mom. So I was 20 when my son was born and 22 when my daughter was born. And what I know now that I didn't know then, I was in such survival mode. I had had so much chaos and trauma in my life that I didn't have any tools. And I really was just living from the most fearful place, I think, and trying to pre-mitigate any disaster and making quick pivots that didn't feel reckless at the time, but now looking to the girl like not the ideas I might, you know, as a 48-year-old woman, might have not advised my 20-year-old self to do. So I really think it's it's that deep love that continuously challenges me to be better, do better, show up better, take accountability in a more full way because I want to stay connected with these souls no matter what. And as we know, once they're big, like they don't have to. So that's true. Um, so I think it's I just started out in such a maybe not ideal way or phase in my life. And so they've fortunately and unfortunately grown through a lot with me.

unknown 7:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

And one of the biggest gifts, I think, is just to be able to take accountability and say, like, hey, like I didn't do the best job there and I'm so sorry. And, you know, I'm here now and I'm doing better. So I think that's all we can ask of ourselves, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yes, absolutely. Do you feel like moms naturally have a psychic ability when it comes to their kids?

SPEAKER_02 7:37

That's a really good question. Uh for me, I really think it depends on the individual. So yeah, I lost the thread of your last question. Sorry, it was about how did my intuition come in? I'm like, I had none. It came much later. Um I was listening to everyone outside of myself most of the time and making bad choices based on their recommendations. I feel like we all as humans have deep intuition, certainly. But sometimes, particularly as women, through the conditioning of being directed and rewarded for making ourselves small and looking outside of ourselves for answers, we just stop listening to that voice of our intuition. It's still there. It's usually the least convenient choice on the menu that is the best for us, right? So we don't always like the answer of what our intuition is sharing or nudging or whispering, but it's always there. I feel like certainly if we're the type of parent, any parent, you know, male or female, that is very tuned into the personality, the energy, the emotions of our child, and we're in a grounded enough space that we can feel our own emotions to kind of understand theirs, then I think there are really deep and profound levels of intuition we can have about our children. But I really find now that mine are big, when they're little, maybe it's a little different. But when they're big, it's that intuition of tuning in for what do they need me to show up as? Do they need like a quick rescue? Do they need advice? Do they just need a grounded person to listen? So I think that's maybe the intuition's not like so predictive of like, oh, something's wrong. But it's that intuition of feeling their emotion and energy in the moment and being neutral and grounded enough in our own that we are able to respond and not just react. And I guess that's true even when they're little. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

You remind me of my mom. When because she's such an amazing person. When I was in college, I was in Iowa, and she was here in California, and I remember talking to her. I would try to talk to her almost every day. And there was one time I talked to her after a night of having college fun. Okay. And so I'm talking to her, and she goes, Sonia, you shouldn't be doing that. That's not okay. And I'm just like, how like, mind you, this is before social media, this is before phones had videos, before all of that. And I'm like, how did she know? Like, she had this way of connecting with us where she knew what it was that we needed. Either it was like guidance or redirection or that level of support that you had were talking about. So I we experienced that firsthand with our mom.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

I will take that beautiful compliment. Thank you, and love to your mom, wherever she may be. So I think it's a great example, even just what you gave. And you as a mom with your own kids, you know that their personalities are different. Like my kids are so different that one of them having a certain experience, I would be like, Oh my gosh, this is a pivotal thing. This is very important. We have to dive into this. The other one, it might not be a big deal. So maybe it was your personality that she knew compared to maybe a sibling of like, well, this one's fire. I gotta watch her, I gotta let her know she's up to something. Do you know what I mean? Versus someone who maybe that's not their personality at all. You might be like, you need to get outside. Like, you're wasting your college years. Do you know what I mean? So kudos to your mom.

unknown 11:16

Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Have your kids ever noticed or commented on your gifts?

SPEAKER_02 11:23

What's really funny is because I didn't really identify or come into my gifts until I was a bit older and they were a bit older, they would have been like high school age at the time. Okay. And I was raised on and off Catholic and Christian and different versions of all of that belief system. And so I was really nervous when they were growing up in my efforts to try to do everything right and not mess things up. And I didn't even allow those types of shows inside my house. Like it was like, we don't watch that. I don't want to open doors. I don't understand. No witching shows, no psychic shows, none of that. And so it was really my son that first noticed because I, out of curiosity and not knowing where to search, I started binge watching all the shows, like, you know, with streaming services and all that. And he was like, Why are you watching all these witch shows? What's going on? What's happening? So I think it was him that first identified in that way. But I came in really slowly through because I was already in wellness. I was already doing like tinctures and blends of essential oils. So when I started training in Reiki, which was the way I came into my gifts, it was not that big of a transition. So a lot of it I could kind of keep, we know now medium friends, we jokingly call it the broom closet. I could keep things the broom closet a little better back then, but it was him that started noticing. And then later within the next few years, it was everyone in my household at the time that would just say, like sometimes I would do like a house clearing and they'd come home and they'd be like, What's different? Did you clean different? Did you move something? So they would start noticing just in the energy. So it it's been it's been a fun journey, I guess, all the time. And now once in a while, they'll call me and ask me to look at something for them, or my son. I typically send them to other people if they need readings, but my son will sometimes ask me to, you know, kind of look at the energy of a situation or something coming up, or so they it's grown for them too.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

Okay. Okay. Now, and how's it how has their journey changed? How were was it that you would talk to your kids about spirituality as you were coming into your gifts? And what does that look like now or the idea of loved ones in spirit?

SPEAKER_02 13:40

I really didn't have much understanding at all. I was kind of taught to think, you know, heaven is a faraway place. There's a couple places we could be. Maybe it's not all the same place, which now I understand there's the physical world and the non-physical world, and they're not somewhere far away. They just are right here in the unseen energy, right with us. I did, I think of my daughter especially. She's highly sensitive. She has a lot of gifts of her own, which to your last question is something she has been able to ask me about over the years, as she's felt comfortable. But I really dismissed a lot of things with her when she was young, as just like, oh, that's just your mind, or you're just anxious, or go back to sleep, or whatever it is. So I didn't do a great job when they were young about that. So as they've grown, I think it's really just changed as I've changed and become more comfortable and even knew how to explain or how to tell about things. And particularly my son has his own set of gifts, but with my daughter, she's very mediumistic. And so there was a time not long ago, maybe five years ago, where she was starting to have experiences and then would kind of come and ask me. And I just, I think I just have more well-formed answers for my own experience now, where before I was working on like these theories that were taught of, you know, where people go if they're good or bad, and what judgment looks like and all of that. That never really felt entirely resonant with me. So I just feel like I have more, more, maybe more answers and more questions at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

For moms who feel curious but also skeptical, what would you say to them? Skeptical about their own intuition, about the spirit world, about anything, about the spirit world, about seeking a medium.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

I feel like on the spirit world side, depending on the person, I find it kind of fascinating to go down these, like particularly YouTube university rabbit holes of physics. I think physics actually explains a lot of the unseen energy. And, you know, it's back to who is it, Newton or is it Newton or Einstein? That's energies that are created or destroyed. Yeah, it just changes form. So what's really interesting, whether someone has a faith system or not, or is very scientific or not, I think every faith system, every scientific modality has a little bit of it. And so some of it is just asking the questions and being willing to seek the answers for whatever we as an individual feel curious about in that moment. I don't think we need to push ourselves out of our curiosity, like outside of that curiosity, because then I think that's where fear comes and our mind wants to create fearful things or wants to make that shadow into a bad ghost, or you know what I mean, based on what we've learned. So I would just say let our own curiosity guide us. And if someone is like me and starts to experience things or just get curious, I mean, I have a podcast too, but seek out trustworthy resources. If it's something that is creating more fear in you, it's probably just something that's sensationalized to like get your clicks versus something that feels grounded in something true that's not so sensational. It's just such a different journey for every individual person. So I think it's really starting with what feels true to us and maybe even just getting to know yourself a little better. Why do you believe what you believe? What are your personal experiences? Have you ever had a moment where you felt like there was like a mini miracle in your own life, or you just knew something and you didn't know why you knew it, or you just were thinking about someone and then they call you, or vice versa, or it's those little moments of kind of proof and experience in our own life that we might not be able to define or explain, but we know how we felt in those moments. So I think sometimes those are some of the most powerful ways to stay grounded in like not the fear-based side of the spectrum. There's nothing scary to worry about, I guess is the best guidance I can give and just follow the curiosity, really.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

I love it. Love it. That's great advice. Can children be more open or receptive to spiritual experiences than adults?

SPEAKER_02 18:03

I don't know that they're more open or receptive. I think they're less physically focused. So what I mean by that is as we grow into our lives from a baby, we're very focused on just whatever we're aware of. As we grow, we become more physically focused to like pay attention in school, communicate out loud, play with toys, whatever it is. So there's this almost like spectrum of transition for most people that as we grow and focus more into the physical reality, this 3D reality, the less we pay attention to the subtle energies, the other things we might see and be aware of. I was telling you, I would say for many years that I didn't come into my gifts until my kids were in high school. But actually, over the years, I've remembered things from when I was very small that I just either kind of dismissed or didn't really put two and two together. And so now I have a lot of memories of kind of seeing and experiencing spirit. So I don't know that we're more open. I just think we're less conditioned away from it. It's like how little kids will just say, like, I don't like that person. I don't feel good, I don't feel good about that person. And then we get conditioned, right? Like, oh, that's not nice, be polite, whatever it is. So I don't know that it's more open or less open. I think it's just the where we're focusing.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Okay. Very good. Many, many moms carry grief, loss of a parent, miscarriages, or loved ones. How can they begin to heal?

SPEAKER_02 19:36

That's a great question. Well, I think the healing sometimes it's it's multifold, right? A couple of things I can say is one of the most important things to hold on to is grief is not linear. I think culturally we expect this amount of time has passed, or I have done these steps or classes, and now I should feel different or better. That's really almost never the way it works. So just know that sometimes you might feel more grief or less grief. It kind of comes and goes, or might feel like it spirals around. That's totally normal. I feel like depending on the nature of the relationship with the person, right? And sometimes even the way that they pass, we might feel more or less prepared or more or less active in our grief. I think it's always wonderful to seek out therapy if it's within your means to do so. And there are lots of free grief programs online too. So I think the support of a professional is always really helpful because it's not just about the loss of the person, right? It's about how we feel and how we continue to move through the world. So that's on the practical side. On the more spiritual side, what I can say is the way I understand it now is part of what makes us all human is this human spectrum of emotions that we get to access. So we all have the same spectrum of emotions regardless of our life experience. Your hardest thing is your hardest thing, even if it's different than my hardest thing, right? Same with joy. So when we cross over, we no longer have the challenged side of that spectrum because that side of the spectrum that feels challenged or like something's hard or traumatic is all based around the illusion of separation, the illusion of fear that everything's not going to work out or not gonna be okay, or that we, you know, we are separate from our loved ones or each other, even. So when they cross over to the spirit side, all of the physical pain, emotional pain, mental health challenges, substance challenges, anything like that is totally dissolved as part of their physical incarnation. And the soul is not scarred by any of that. So it's why we often hear, either through mediumship or dreams or near death experiences, that people are so different over. There or they will give apologies sometimes or acknowledgments of pain that they've caused. Part of it's through the life review, but it's just a very different, it's a very different experience to return to kind of the totality or fullness of our soul versus our limited experience in human form. So just know that those that we think are lost are not lost at all. They're just right here, never more than a heartbeat away. We just don't see them or physically experience them anymore, but they're still present just in a different way. And they can still hear you, they can still feel your emotions. Even if they weren't able to speak in life, they still can communicate and still are connected or close to you based on the love that you share. The other last little nugget, I know this is like a marathon answer that I've given, but I often feel and have learned, particularly through parents that I've worked with that have lost kids, that the depth of our grief is often in equal proportion to the depth and profound experience of love that we had with that individual. So it's sort of a bittersweet knowing that even though the grief is really painful, it is a testament to the depth of love that you have and that you share still with that person.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

That's so beautiful. What would you want every grieving mom to know about connection beyond this life? About connection beyond this life.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

That's a that's an interesting way of phrasing it. So I want to try to make sure I answer that part of it. We're again, I have to go back to the illusion of separation because that's that belief that we are disconnected. Our souls are never disconnected. It's just our physical body makes us feel separate. So again, if we can either lean more into or look more into that illusion of separation or that understanding that the soul never dies, love never dies, it continues on just in a different form. We do get to meet each other again and see each other again in a different way and experience each other again. I think the hard thing is while all of that is true, it doesn't alleviate the grief. And I think we have to honor the grief of that loss. It's a profound grief that I don't know how anyone bears and holds. But I also think that beautiful things can come out of that grief. So when someone feels ready, I feel like it's really important to look at for them personally. It can be different for every person. How do they want to honor that child, whether they never walked on the earth or whether they had many years on the earth? Do they want to do something in their name? Do they want to, you know, share their story in some way? Do they want to just do something very private that honors them? Because I think that's part of the healing that can be had. And the continuation of the expression of that relationship is as part of our grief and healing, what do what else do we start focusing on? Or what else do we start allowing to be healed or changed within us as a result of that person having been in our life at all?

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Thank you. Have you seen motherhood play a role in how women process grief differently?

SPEAKER_02 25:26

I think motherhood plays a role in anything, but I just because it's such a profound experience. But I also know that the energy of the mother's love, right? Just if we just look at it as a quality, not a physical experience, that nurturing, supportive, enveloping love that is the divine feminine can come in so many forms. So I don't think it's something that's necessarily exclusive to, for example, someone that has been a biologic mother in this lifetime. I think it's accessible to all of us, no matter what physical body we're in, that divine feminine love. But certainly any of our life experiences inform how we love, how we give and receive love, our experience with other souls in this lifetime. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Yes, it does. Thank you. What are simple ways moms can start strengthening their intuition today?

SPEAKER_02 26:25

I'm glad we came back to this because I was thinking, oh, there was something else I should have said earlier in one of my answers. One thing I will say, just in the parenting side of it, like not as the mom's intuition, but as the kiddo's intuition, because we were talking about when they're less physically focused, they are so empathic and so intuitive. Part of the magic of helping them stay intuitive is when they come up to you and say, like, oh, mom or dad, you you're sad. If you're sad, say yes. Don't say no. Because if we say no and do that thing we do to try to say, like, it's okay, everything's fine, nothing to worry about here, go on your merry way. What it starts teaching them and what it's taught most of us in our growing up time was, oh, my intuition's invalid. I'm not correct in what I'm feeling. This empathic ability that I have, it's wrong. I need to ask other people about how I feel and if it's right or not. So the mom or dad or primary parental figure is usually the first teacher of our intuition. So that's a beautiful way to like not help them down there. For the parent ourselves, I think some of it is just in the noticing of small things. I think one of the misconceptions with intuition is that for me at the beginning, I'll speak for myself. I thought it was gonna be like the movies where time stands still and a big scene appears and you have a premonition of the future. And I've heard it's like that once in a blue moon. It's never been like that for me, but that's not mostly what it is. It's those small little nudges that are soft and often about everyday things. If we can start trusting those, then when we do need our intuition or to know how we feel about a bigger thing, we have more access to it. But really start just by honoring that little nudge of, oh, you know what? I just need to leave extra time today. I don't know why. Or I'm just gonna bring this extra toy in my bag today. I don't know why. And you'll see how those breadcrumbs unfold. Maybe there's another kid that didn't have a toy, or maybe you I had something recently actually happened to me where I wasn't even gonna be out all day, but I was like, I need to bring a snack. And I was like, that's so weird. I'm not gonna go all the way back inside. But I was like, nope, we're just listening to our intuition now. And I did. I went in, grabbed something, and later I ended up having to wait for something that ended up taking like so much longer. And there was, I have like some dietary restrictions. So there was like nothing I could have had. I was feeling terrible. And I was like, oh my gosh, I have a snack. So it's in just those little ways if we can start listening to it, even making a note when we have like a feeling about something. Because most people are comfortable identifying it like that. Oh, I just had a feeling or I just I just feel this way. If we can even start making little notes of it and then seeing what unfurls as the day goes on, it starts building that relationship of trust. Because to have intuition, it's really about having a relationship with ourselves, our own emotions, that little inner nudge. And the more that we pay attention to it, it doesn't mean we always have to do what it says if we're not comfortable. But the more we even just say, like, okay, I feel that feeling. Let me just put a bit in that, you know, make a mental note of that, the more we will start to understand when it's showing up and it can spread out to more areas of our life, not just our comfort zone.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

I love it. I just you just reminded me of my oldest sister because she loves to have things that just in case, you know, and those just in case things do come in handy. It's crazy, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:52

It's it's you never know. And sometimes it's like the strangest thing, or you know, just noticing, like, oh, it's so it's so weird that I just so happen to be seated next to that person on the airplane that was talking about that book that I just read. Or yeah, it's those synchronicities and coincidences, like maybe not so coincidental.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

Okay. Mom life meets mediumship. The funniest or most unexpected moment where your worlds collided.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Oh, that's a tough one. Let me think. I don't know if I'm gonna have an answer for this. Funniest moment when my worlds collided. I have a weird story, but I don't know if it's if it's gonna take what we're hoping for. So a previous partner of mine, we knew each other from childhood and reconnected as adults, and we're together for about 10 years, and he had to go home for a funeral, for a family funeral. And I was, you know, with the kids and tending to them and doing all the mom things for our blended family. And I was so exhausted by the end of the night that I fell asleep like really hard. And I'm not someone that typically has dream experiences. My dreams are a lot of processing and not a lot of spiritual stuff going on. So I had my dream, it was weird. I forgot it when I woke up, and then that day I had to like do a million mom things and then go pick him up from the airport. And as I was picking him up, I was saying, like, can I ask you a question? Because all of a sudden, like memories started to come back to me from my dream. And I said, At your uncle's funeral, did it look like this? Was it positioned like this, with chairs behind like this? And someone got up and gave a speech and was talking about the weirdest memory that just started coming to me while I was driving us home from the airport, talking about how much he loved chocolate and that you could bribe him anything with chocolate and like just interesting stories about him as a man. And I freaked him out so bad, even though he knew I did this work. He just hadn't been around me doing it a lot. And he was like, How do you know that? Somebody gave a speech like that and said they were talking about he also collected dimes as just a weird quirk about him as a man. And so, like, it was like details from this speech at this funeral that I had not attended. And he's like, like stopped cold, staring at me as I'm driving. Like, how do you, how do you know all this? And I was like, Well, I s I remember I saw it in my dream last night, and your uncle was standing beside me, and we were behind the pulpit and the casket, and we were just listening to them talk about him. And it was so weird because I was, you know, you forget your dreams, and sometimes they'll come back to you later in the day. It was like real time, I was remembering it and saying it. It was a little bit surreal, and just watching his face go like white as a ghost of like, oh my gosh, I don't understand what's happening. So that probably is one of the more bizarre family connected experiences I've had. Wow. Wow. It was weird for sure. I it's not happened since in the same way, but it was kind of cool to, it's a cool experience to have.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

If a mom listening feels lost, overwhelmed, or disconnected, what's the first step she should take today?

SPEAKER_02 32:58

If a mom is overwhelmed and feeling disconnected, what can they do right now? What's tough about this question is I feel like initially it's a triage situation, right? Have you slept? Have you ate? Where's your mental health? Start breathing and coming all the way back into the center of your head, the center of your energy. Are you, you know, mind racing, kind of trying to live in the future or piece together a bunch of stuff outside of you? So if we're in like a triage situation, it's come immediately back into yourself. Get your breath. Really, you know, there's that wonderful technique that leans towards like anxiety or panic attacks, where it's part of getting all the way back in your physical body. You can just look around your room, like what's five things you can see, four things you could touch, two, you know, three things you could smell, two things you can hear. So really just coming all the way back into your body. I recently have also been learning about co-regulating, which I think is the coolest thing. And one of those things I wish I had very young, mom. Sorry. Oh, okay. It's kind of like if you have a like a little one, it doesn't have to be toddler, but I think some of the videos I've seen are mostly like toddlers or kindergarten age, and they are having some sort of emotion that's big and it's lighting up something in you where you are also starting to have a big emotion. You can, they call it co-regulating. You can hold them and kind of like do some version of rocking or tapping. It's like you're regulating your nervous system, and at the same time, they are co-regulating their nervous system, or you're helping them find uh an energy to tune into for their nervous system by creating it yourself. But it's often like the parent is also involved in the activity, whether it's like light bouncing or rocking or hugging or rubbing arms or something like that. And it just kind of shifts the nervous system and gets us more back into our body, and it's very calming. So on the triage side, like if it's very urgent or something's like really melting down in the moment, I think those are great things. I I will say I I know that meditation in its like purest form is not for everyone. So especially if you're in the phase of parenting where there's not a lot of sleep happening and things feel a little chaotic, don't put pressure on yourself to do those pieces until you feel ready. But it is great to have some, yeah, I think it's just that feeling disconnected from yourself, some connection back in with yourself. And I think listening in for that still small voice is often the right place to go. Or another way to kind of reverse engineer it is just noticing if there's a particular fear that's coming up for you on a regular basis, if there's a particular anxiety that's coming up, or a particular area where you're feeling disconnected, because often it's through identifying our patterns and just paying attention to how we feel. Are you feeling numb? Are you feeling sad? Are you feeling overwhelmed? Once you can really whittle down at the emotion and half emotion happening under there, then you can find a direction to unpack it. I feel like that's probably where a lot of the overwhelm comes from and just the stress of our chaotic world. But I also feel like it's wonderful to do, if you have the bandwidth for it, little like guided meditations, or if you don't have time to sit quietly like that, find like a podcast like this or something you enjoy that feels not heavy, but that you can, you could, you know, do some stretches for yourself or do the dishes or whatever you need to do. Yeah. So it's giving yourself grace as well, whatever phase or stage you're in, of finding those little pockets of what shifts your energy? What can make you go from stress to just a little more calm? Like if you think of it as like an emotional scale, let's just say, or ladder, what can just take you up or down two rungs on the ladder? Could you find five things in your life to be grateful about? You know what I mean? So it's some of it's shifting our energy from where we are to even just a little bit in a in a more aligned direction. I'll say it that way. And I mean like all the way to the bottom of there's some days where I've done this, and the thing that I'm finding that I'm grateful for is like this beautiful running hot water we have in the States. Like it can be that. It's wherever you are, you can do it from that zone, even if you are feeling like you're on the floor that day.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Oh, great advice. Great advice. Thank you so much. Where can listeners connect with you? I know you talked about your podcast. I know you have a website. Share with us all the good stuff you have going on.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

Or the hub of everything is probably the website, joyfulmedium.com. At any given time, there's usually something right on that homepage that you can sign up for that is some sort of like a free workshop or a free mini reading session or some sort of free offer. Even like a I have a pre-recorded free mini course that teaches people how to get signs. So if you do have more bandwidth and you want to start playing with like getting signs from the universe or your loved ones, so anything that you give your email will put you on my email community and then you'll find out about all the free things. But joyfulmedium.com, the website really is the main hub. Uh, my podcast is called Spirit Speak Easy, and you can find it wherever you listen to podcasts. It is also on the website under the blog section for those who want the video version. But that is the best way to get tuned in. You can also find me on all the socials at JoyfulMedium, but really get involved. Come to a free workshop or a free, you know, mini course or something that I have going on and just dip your feet in and keep it light and let yourself have some play. If you are ready for session, you can find out all about that on the website too.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Okay. We have a few questions that are ask a medium mom edition. Question number one: Can my child's loved one watch over them?

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Yes, is the easy answer. I will say sometimes when a person is still a little baby, right? And in kind of like a baby in a cradle age, you might see them looking over one of their shoulders or kind of looking up in the same area frequently and either laughing or smiling or just being very curious. And as far as your eyes can see, nothing is there. That is often one of your loved ones, spending time with them and saying hello to them. Cause again, they don't know that they're not supposed to see them. They're not super physically focused yet. So they absolutely still stay in our lives as inspirers and protector, I feel like almost leans to like that little bit of fear base, but they have our best interests in heart. If you have, let's just hypothetically say a mom or a grandma, even if you didn't have a personal relationship with them in this lifetime, of course they're gonna be interested in your littles, and of course they're gonna wanna see what's going on with them. And it's one of my favorite details that often is communicated in readings, especially if there are like little kids in the family, where the loved one, I just had one this last week that was a dad on the other side who wanted his daughter, who was my client, to know, okay, one of the kids just started actually being able to read, but for the last couple of years, he's been pretending to read to like an imaginary friend, and that's me. So it's fascinating when they'll tell, like, you know, they'll they're doing a tea party and they always sit an empty seat there, and I'm there with them. And so they really do spend time with them in really lovely ways. They can't affect their free will or like make them make a choice that they don't want to make, but they definitely get a kick out of watching and watching over them. And they sometimes will even make jokes and be like, I at that same session they were talking about this little kiddo had just started school, and the dad on the other side was teasing his daughter and saying, like, you can't follow him all day at school, and I can, like, ha ha. So because she was having a really hard time with him being at school, she was very worried. So I love when they share details like that. Cause for me, it's things I couldn't know that their kids are doing or even the ages that they are, that I'm like, oh, that's fascinating. That that's the only way I could know that is if the parent or person on the other side was actually with them. And again, we don't have to have known them in this lifetime because we're connected by the love that we share. Of course, even if it's like your great grandparent, wouldn't you want to know two generations down, like, hey, let me look on in these kids and what they're doing and what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

And oh, that is so sweet. I know the the next question and the way you uh the the way you articulated this next question when we had our group meeting as sisters was really healing for one of them. So I thought it was important to bring it up again. Okay. Can you share with us what happens when we experience miscarriages?

SPEAKER_02 41:52

That's a great question. I'm not sure I'm gonna answer it the exact same way because my understanding's always deepening. But the way I understand it now, which in 10 years I might have more information, uh, is that they really just whether they are not able to come to term or walk on earth due to illness or miscarriage or termination, that soul goes immediately back with our family on the other side and is loved and gets to still be with the family and still grow up. They're not, again, they they get to have the experience. So their soul also learns from the experience, but they're not damaged by the experience. There's not judgment about the experience, and they also don't need us to judge ourselves for what we in our humanness might feel like we should have done or could have done. They always express how much peace they are at with the experience, and often they express gratitude. And sometimes, even that was the experience they signed up for with us as the carrier of them, that it was just going to be for a little time. Because truthfully, sometimes those are the most profound moments for us as a soul and can be very pivotal. I had a friend long ago, and she ended up miscarrying a baby that she didn't even know that she wanted, and it changed everything for her about the course of her life and understanding that she did actually want to become a mom. And it's just so beautiful to know that that little soul who didn't get to have their human experience showed up as like, oh no, that was my role. I was supposed to come in at a pivotal moment to give her a different understanding. That's what we agreed to before she got here. Because as part of my belief, and no one has to subscribe to this, but it's fairly common among mediums at this point. I believe we choose the family that we're going to come into. We make contracts and agreements as souls on the other side with, you know, a mom that we might come to, or as a person coming in, we might have kind of like it's weird to say it this way, but kind of like an option out on a couple. Souls on the other side that, hey, if I choose to try to bring you in, or if I want to have this experience, you volunteer to come in to me. I think all of that is to some degree chosen by us as souls and orchestrated in some ways, but they do get to stay around with us. They it's very real for those that express that they feel like they can kind of sense that kiddo that didn't get to walk on earth, or even if they did and they were small or had only one day or one breath, or not even. If you even just send emotion from your heart, if you don't feel like you want to talk to them inside of yourself, they receive all of that and they truly know what they meant for you in this lifetime, whether it was giving you a different path for choice, or even if it's a full of grief experience, because there's no actual separation, we get to return to be with them at some point, and it's just a powerful version of our human experience. Uh, it's all super complicated because it doesn't take the grief away, and I hate that part of it. But I don't feel like they're damaged or separated or unable to be with us or communicate with us. They're just right there with the rest of the family. We've often had people, you know, that later maybe have another child, or maybe even, you know, the kids that they do raise then have kids. Well, that little soul on the other side returns to the fullness of its soul and is getting to meet and spend time with those members of the family that haven't come in yet. And as people cross over, they get to meet them. But souls that haven't even been born into our family, they're getting to be with them and meet them. So they're very much a part of it. It's just this illusion of separation that makes us feel like things are very black and white in this area.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

Thank you so much. I think that was really healing for a lot of people. Thank you. We're gonna make sure we're providing all the information and we will just see each other on socials. Yes, it was wonderful to be here with you.

SPEAKER_02 46:06

Thanks so much. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

What a beautiful and thought-provoking conversation with Joy Giovanni. I loved hearing Joy's perspective on motherhood, intuition, grief, healing, and the ways our life experiences continue to shape us as women and mothers. One of my biggest takeaways was the reminder that intuition often shows up in the quiet moments, the small nudges, feelings, and gentle whispers that guide us throughout our day. For those of you carrying grief, whether from the loss of a parent, loved one, or miscarriage, I hope this conversation offered comfort, hope, and reassurance that you're not alone on your journey. If you'd like to connect with Joy, learn more about her work, attend one of her workshops, or listen to her podcast, Spirit Speakeasy. Visit joyfulmedium.com and follow her on social media at joyfulmedium. If today's episode encouraged you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with another mom or three who may need to hear this message. Remember, motherhood isn't meant to be done alone. Together we learn, grow, heal, and thrive. Until next time, take care of yourself, give yourself grace, and keep showing up one day at a time. Thank you for listening to Mom Life Podcast because every mom deserves support, connection, and a reminder that she's never alone.