THE HANNAH MONTANA EPISODE | Flopcast ep.10

Welcome back to Flopcast (working title)- where we try new hobbies, collect minor celebrity encounters like infinity stones, and accidentally have therapy sessions. 

This week, Paige and Molly attempt gloving (rave-core incoming), recap the absolutely unhinged experience of attending the Hannah Montana 20th anniversary event with Miley Cyrus, and somehow end up meeting icons like Joan Grande and Hats by Abbey. 

The girls also touch on situationship horror stories (including a man doing whippets… alone… in bed), a deep dive into attachment issues, limerence, and romantic delusion, why being famous is both a dream and a psychological burden, and hot takes on celebrity behavior (hi Chappell Roan)

It’s hobbies, Hollywood, and chaos as usual. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

You get the limo out front.

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Hottest styles, every shoe, every color. We better not get copyright. When your famous kid can be got a bug.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

Figure eight, figure eight.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Wait, show them, show them, show them. Figure eight. Figure eight figure roll. Whoa.

unknown 0:20

Guys.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Oh wait, what's it? Overhand figure roll.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

This is my first time gloving. Check this one out. Whoa, I'm a natural. Anyway, we're gonna start trying new hobbies every week until we find one that like really sticks. And I think next week I'm gonna come with hobby horses.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Yeah, so we got the gloves this week. Let us know what everyone think. I know they really got like multiple settings.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Wait, has anyone ever tried this one before? Whoa, I'm sure. I mean it's been like I just unlocked something in the gloving community.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

How does this thing work?

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Also, it's like I'm already so what am I doing? I'm already so captivated by these, I can't even imagine like being like rolling on Molly watching this.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

I can't, or like being really good at it. Cause I've been like um making TikToks of myself like privately where I post them privately of me gloving. Wait, how come I've never seen because they're private. Oh my god, not even like a friend of the club. They're like only me.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Oh, like you've been practicing.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

Yeah, I've been practicing, and I like low-key get hypnotized too.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

I know. Well, whatever you were just doing, I was like really locked in for it. Thank you. And also, again, you predicted this. Moses has been dabbling into the gloving world. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

And I got these gloves for us right before. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

I forgot. I uh I like can't see too. Like, we're such pop stars. Whoa. Hannah Montana 20th anniversary.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Literally, like Hannah Montana 20th anniversary. Oh my god. But I literally got these gloves for us before Moses did the gloving, and then he just happened to post it quicker because he's quicker than we are.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

I know. He's they're so fixing the wig. Like it's like I threw it and ran. I know. Mine's so bad. Mine had lace and I cut it. This is not. I have pins sticking out the back. Oh. I was driving, they was like poking me in the back of the head. Anyway, more fucking importantly, Hannah Montana 20th anniversary. And also, welcome back to Flopcast working title.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

So, Hannah Montana 20th anniversary.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Girl, I was at the premiere. I can't believe who would have thought that a girl like me could double as a getty image. Getty image baddie. Check the getty. Check the getty. Please don't actually. Mine are so stiff. Bro, mine are so stiff, and I'm missing my pinky nails. Right. Check it. I walked the carpet like this. The real reasons for the gloves. And okay, right. I'm like, gotta gotta hide that. Here's my thing, too. It's like I've had opportunities in the past. I'm not saying I'm Beyonce. I've had a few opportunities in the past to walk on a carpet or two, and I've just never done it because it's like I know I don't photograph well. I am so unphotogenic, and you're the opposite. You're so photogenic.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

I'm very photogenic. Something about me is like I am very photogenic, but sometimes I see a picture of myself and I'm like, who is that? Because I'm much thinner than that.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

We have reverse body dysmorphia. We have reverse body dysmorphia.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

But I think like you really like when you take a good picture, like it's like such an amazing picture. I'm like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Thank you. Well, I know my angles like when I'm taking a picture or like when someone else is taking a picture, but when it's someone else, when it's like a professional HD 24 fucking 4K zoom. Oh, I look a mess. I'm knock-need. I'm pigeon-toed. Oh my god, I'm missing my fingernails. Molly, I looked a mess. No kneed. I'm knock-need, I look like Northwest. Yeah. No, it's bad. So I've just always been like, I'm not walking the carpet. I know my angles, and I know that you guys aren't gonna get my angles. And the the lighting is so harsh, you can see every pore, you can see every hair follicle. I'm like, I'm not doing it. Um, but I was like, you know what? Now that we're uh really big time in it over here, also like there's something about walking a carpet when you're kind of like a D- No, Z-list celeb. Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

I was gonna say like D-list influencer.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Celeb is crazy, influencer. Influencer. I'm like an F-tier influencer. I'm like, who the fuck am I walking a carpet? Yeah. You know, it's just kind of embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

I felt that way at Wicked. Where I was like, what the fuck am I doing here? Like it's like I get up there and it's one camera flash.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Literally, they're like, next. Literally, I'm like missing my mark. I'm like overstaying my welcome on the marks. No, like they're chapeleroning me.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

They're like, you shut the fuck up. Yeah, the who the fuck? Yeah, literally. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

My hands are getting warm. I know, I should probably take these off. It almost felt like pity flashes. It's like I'm standing up there and they're like, uh, over here. Okay, fine, we have to. Yeah, okay, just like make her feel good. So anyway, I got my first getty images. Go check the getty. Go check the getty. Stiff as hell, missing nails. And yeah, I was like, you know what? This is this is our era of trying things, clearly. Trying the Getys. I'm sure you look beautiful. Thank you. Honestly, we'll insert them.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Someone commented, like, you guys need to insert more, insert more. So I guess like maybe we'll start doing that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Wait, ready? These are this these are two of them. These ones are like the only acceptable ones. But what I've learned is like, oh my god, yeah, I have like reverse body dysmorphia, where it's like in my head, I think I'm Adriana Lima.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

And then I see a picture and I'm like, No, I'm like, I'm elf fanning. As hell. Also, not that blonde. I'm as elected.

unknown 5:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

But like, oh, and that this one was like moderately acceptable too. But cute, cute. No, I don't know how to pose. I don't know how to pose. Every single picture, I'm just going like this.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

That's cute. Especially for Hannah Montana.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Yeah, but like also my first Getty images like looking goofy, like I'm wearing like a zebra scarf and like No, but like that's what you're supposed to wear to Hannah Montana. She's on theme. The uh the thing. You were really on theme. Thank you. It was pop star chic. I think I was missing the chic part, but like there was a little pop star.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

I saw many people post and they were all in jeans. Yeah, denim and secret, like this. Yeah, very pop star chic. That's perfect. Very much the look. Yeah, this is kind of like everyday. This is like pop star chic.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Yeah, you're like Hannah when she's like off duty, like model off duty. Totally, totally model off duty. Hannah on stage.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

Hannah on stage. Like you literally are with the scarf. Like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

I know the scarf really was good. Dude, I need to like talk about the entire night that I had.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

I want to hear everything because Paige would text me, like, guess who I just saw? Guess who I just saw. Guys, okay. Yeah. Let's lead with this one.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Michaela. Oh, I thought you were gonna say Joan Grande. No. Whoa!

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Oh, no, no, no, they don't want to talk about Joan Grande. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Should we go like an order of operations? Like our whole day yesterday, which is kind of fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Okay. Go ahead. Take the reins.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

We we get paid from Flopcast. We're worth a dollar and a penny after paying um our editors that we've been putting on.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

We haven't paid anyone once. We've been like, guys, I put it on.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Now like those invoices are paid. Don't worry, like, mommy's home.

unknown 7:17

Like we got you.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Our first check hit, mind you, it's belly button lit and a belly. No, literally, it's like gum. We opened up the envelope and went just dust came out.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

It was like all owed to someone else. Anyway, and so we were like, okay, we we have enough to take ourselves out to lunch. So we go to Joan's on third. We go to Joan's on third, we walk in, Paige goes, Oh my god, is that Joan Grande? I go, what? I go, Molly, go back.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

I go, go back and look. Do a double take.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

There's a little petite woman with a beautifully blown out black hair, perfect, like short black hair, you know? Yeah. It's Joan Grande.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

It's Joan fucking Grande. Full face of makeup too. So at 11 in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

And these she was with two other women, and they were like in kind of like an not as serious, but like an intense conversation. So we were scared. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

It looked like they were holding like a like a real meeting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

And we were coming up like dead center in the middle of Joan's on third, like of the restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Yeah. Yeah. So we were like, oh my Molly was like, we have to say something, but I'm like, maybe just like give them a minute. Like, let's go outside and eat, and then we'll make our rounds. So we we go outside, we eat our Chinese chicken salad and your pancakes. My pancakes. Also, Joan's on third order. Always the Chinese chicken salad every single time.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Unless you're feeling fun. Oh, and then the the onions. Oh fuck, we should have got those. I know. These crispy onions.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Oh, it's so good. Um, so anyway, we finish our meals and then I'm like, okay, I'm thirsty. Let's go back inside, see if she's still there. I'm gonna grab a glass of water and then we can approach her. And we did just that. I go, Molly, take over.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Oh my god, I got I'm so sorry. Which is how I start every celebrity encounter. I'll go up to anyone and anything. When I saw Addison Ray, also coincidentally at Jones on third, you guys need to see my eyes for this one. I went like this. I literally, I went, if you're you're Addison. Yeah. I'm so sorry. She's like, who died? She's like, I got I'm so sorry. Are you Addison Ray?

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Like you're about to.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

She goes, No, she literally looks at me and she goes, Yes. Like you're about to deliver like the worst news. I loved Yuri P. And she's like, okay, and then like this like gay twin comes up and he's like, Addison, Addison, Addison, and I'm like, get the f out of the circle. No, no, I'm literally like, oh my god. And I didn't ask for a picture, but like that was okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Well, I think it's also we played it so cool with Joan because we didn't ask for a pick.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

And we didn't bring up Frankie or Ariana.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Uh-uh, you don't want to talk about the children. We approach and I go, To her, you are such an I.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Which was such a smart thing for you to say, because it's true.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Because it's the same thing as like someone coming up to me and being like, oh my god, I love Tana so much. And I'm like, Yeah. Wait, so me too. And like, yeah, but like what's that gotta do with me? But like Lover. Yeah, that's not that gotta do with the channel. She's not with me.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

Like, oh, I love Ariana. Ariana, thanks. I was her mother.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Yeah, she's like, I birthed her. Yeah, like you're welcome. So we decided to. I'm like, does this make sense? Are we just like Is everyone following? Oh my god! We approach Joan and we're like, we are obsessed with you. We think you're such an icon. We open it up so that we're talking about her first. And like we are, you know. I'm sucking the fart out of her ass with a boba straw. You literally go like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

You're from Florida, I'm from Florida. Yep. She's like, where I'm like, St. Pierre. She's like, so it's not poker a tone, bitch. Like, get your poor ass away from me. Yeah, she's like, anyway.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

No, she like I think she literally was taken aback by us. And also we introduced ourselves, and I'm like, oh my gosh, hi, I'm Paige. Like, hi, I'm Molly. She stands up and she like goes to shake our hand. I literally ignore it completely. I go and I hug her. And thank God you did that because then I was then entitled to a hug too. Yeah. I think she went, oh I was like, oh my god, I love you. And then we were really like coy about it too, because well, we weren't, but we were like, oh, we love your children. We did just say Ariana. We included Frankie, which you know she's never heard before.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

No, exactly. Unless it's like a real crazy person.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Not just like mediocre crazy.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think we were pretty cool about it. We're like, love you and your kids.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

And she was like kind of down to chill. And then I obviously overstayed my welcome where I was like, actually, I did the Bak Look A contest. Let's talk about it. And she was like, Oh. Yeah, she was like, oh she was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

I think she was like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Yeah, I was like, and you know what? And so, and in a sense, I'm like Ariana.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Basically, like when you really win, it all comes down to it. At the end of the day, it's night, and you're just like Ari. Thank you. But also, it was funny. She was getting kind of messy. She was kind of messy for a second. I'm just gonna say it because you were like, I did the Bach lookalike contest, but it was kind of in a way of like making fun of Bach in the character. Yeah. And she was like, Oh my god, yeah, he's like who likes him. Yeah, who likes him? Like, he's the least favorite.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

I was like, interesting. So how do you feel about Ethan Slater?

SPEAKER_00 12:12

I know. Well, then she goes, Whoever grabbed the oil can and oiled his mouth, she goes, they shouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

That was good. I was like, Oh, you've had that like ready to go ready to go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

I was like, You got that diva in you. Obviously, she bred two divas, but like literally. Um, oh my god, I almost pulled up a chair. I was like, so how's Toulouse?

SPEAKER_02 12:29

I know, literally, I was like, oh, and who are these ladies next to you? And we also said, Oh my, also, because we haven't addressed the elephant in the room, she's not the Joan of Jones on third. To anyone who's confused, because we were like, we're at Jones on third, we see Joan Grande, different Joan. We see Joan of Jones on third. They had lunch together.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Insane. In her little apron and all. Oh. The two Joan's kicking it in Joan's on third. Of course they did. So cute. Someday when I'm older. I know. God, I would love to like pull up with them. And also, that's something I love about like older women. Like that age range, serving at 11 in the morning. She had the full face of makeup on. Talk about like you get. Get ready, you get all dressed up. Literally. No women put it in. You love like that's really literally ate that. Oh, period, it's the wig. It's giving me like they really like dress for church every Sunday, but just every single day. Yes. Like full blowout, full glam.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Twice a week. Gel manicure. Not looking like this. Like, don't zoom in. They look like um water droplets on my nails because I need to like get them through.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Oh, yeah, mine are bad. I keep gluing them on. I keep I literally just keep slapping them back on. But that brings me back. Okay, so the nails, the carpet, the Hannah Montana of it all. First of all, I don't know how in the literal hell I got invited to this premiere.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

I'm so happy that you did. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

I know. Well, actually, I do know. I met this girl. I'm not gonna even like say her name because she probably doesn't even want the association. But I met her at like at an event back in December. It was like a holiday party, and she runs PR for Disney. She's head of PR at Disney. Crazy. And she meets me and she was like, oh my gosh, I used to watch canceled. Like, I'm such a fan. She's like, I think you're hilarious, whatever, whatever. And we just talk all night, and she's the biggest fucking sweetheart. And we're just like laughing, just cracking on. And she was like, I need to get your contact.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Love her down. So then I get this email in my inbox like a few weeks ago, inviting me to the Hannah Montana 20th anniversary premiere. And I'm like, bro, what the hell is my life?

SPEAKER_02 14:31

So awesome.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

So insane. And she texted me after, and I was like, I knew it was you. I knew you pulled the strings. Yeah. Because we had this whole conversation too about like how she's trying to make Disney and these events a little less like kid oriented. Yeah, and like not so brand safe where it's like so PG. She's like, but a little more like PG is like a good one.

SPEAKER_02 14:52

I was gonna say because like Tana and you and like all of these people, like even Alex Cooper, she was like a big part of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her entire the entire thing is like an interview with Alex Cooper that Miley's doing. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, and it's she's talking about sucking dick and cock. You did have my birthday day dinner. So I think Disney, like, because now it's becoming a little more like as we grow up, Disney's growing up with us, and I think they're kind of like leaning into that a little more and like getting like a little less PG, like a little less G with it.

SPEAKER_02 15:24

Especially for the Hannah Montana 20th anniversary of it all. I mean, like, yeah, like no little kids right now are going to be watching that. They're not gonna be like, great, Hannah Montana's 20th anniversary. It's like people like us who are like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah, like it's for like the Gen Z millennial age range.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

Um so that makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Yeah, so I was gagged about that and I was like, oh my gosh, like this is absolutely fucking insane. And just going to the premiere, I mean, I had I had so many goals because like I saw who was going to be. Oh my god. And I was like, I need to collect these influencers, like infinity stones.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

And you freaking did.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

And I did, and I fucking did. I will insert every picture. I met like obsessed. I'm like, you're gonna want to sit down for this. Michaela.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Michaela, I think it's Miguel, right? Something. Make a bag!

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Pack with me to go to Korea! We're going to Korea. I'm in Korea. It was insane. Um, first, I guess like let me go in order of operations. So we all I go, I go to this event with Tana, Ty, Amari, and Mario. We get there, we literally take the limo. So it's like you get the limo out front. Like perfect. And we immediately go, we walk the carpet. Also, it was so funny because we had this guy who was like passing out like all of like the name tags, like the guest passes, this, that, and he comes up to me. He goes, he goes, Oh, for Tana, oh, for Ty, for Mario. He goes, he turns to me, oh, and who are you? I went, so real. No, you should have said, Isn't it your job to know? I went, he goes, and who are you? Humbled me. And then, whatever. I'm like, uh, Paige Cameron, that's fine. I go, I walk the carpet, humbling, like three flashes, maybe max. I'm like, uh-huh, uh-huh. Um, humbling as fuck, needed that. It was good. It was character building. And we all go inside, they're ushering us inside, we're sitting down. It's like all of the influencers, like kind of in the front row, like Manny Emmy Way is there, and Quinn Blackwell. Oh my god, and my favorite one of them all. That's my Abby. Dude. What? Which is it's just so awesome. It was so insane. We're all sitting there, and I look over and I was like, first of all, everyone's kind of like sat before the screening. It's just like the loading screen. Yeah. And there's a DJ playing music, and they're playing like all old Hannah Montana throwbacks. And there's this girl that's like at the wayfront, and I keep thinking that she's making TikToks because she's kind of turned away from everyone. And she's just like singing and dancing. Fucking dream. Fucking dream. And I'm like, you go, girl. And then I realize I'm like, wait, there's no phone setup. She's just doing this for the love of the game. And I was like, oh my god, it's hats by Abby. It's fucking hats by Abby. And I was like, I need to go say something to her.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Oh my god. I'm like so happy that she like went to that. This is like such a perfect event for her.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

She was she was just living it up. I was so happy for her. And I was like, I need to go say something. So I walk up to her and I was like, Abby, hi, my name's Paige. Like, I just want to let you know. I think you were absolutely amazing. Like, I'm such a big fan of yours. I love her down too. She did not she probably did not give a fuck. She didn't give one fuck. She's looking at me, she's singing like along to the song, just going, get the limo out front. She has things to do. She's doing something. Oh, she's busy. Yeah. She's busy. She's singing, she's dancing. She didn't answer a single one of my questions. I was like, thank God. And then at the end, I just go, Can we get a picture? She goes, Yeah. I'll insert it. She's freaking awesome. And then I was like, I was walking away. I was like, oh my god, stupid, stupid, stupid. I fumbled. I should have asked her about the little mermaid. Should have asked her about lions. I know.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

She's not gonna answer Abby. How are you? She's gonna answer Abby.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Tell me about the Little Mermaid.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Tell me about the Little Mermaid. I feel like Ariel too.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Yes, a hundred percent. Or like, I don't know. I tried to like jive with her a little. I was kind of like saying with her, like dancing. Oh my god, I love her. She was my star of the night.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

That's amazing. She would have been my star of the night.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

For sure. For sure. Um, just a bunch of like random influencers, probably like everyone's faves. And then we're sitting there. Miley comes out before the screening happens and she makes the speech. I'm not kidding. It was we were second row.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

So that's great. Wait, also, I'm so sorry. I just have to restructure the wig a little. So please keep talking while whilst I take a moment.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Fix her. I don't know how mine's so secure. I think it's because they have a big head.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Mine just like stays on. I have a bowling ball head. Wait, but keep going.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

So Miley was front row.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

So yeah, we're we're second row. We're sitting second row. And a speaker comes out first and she kind of like gives a whole like speech, whatever. Everyone starts chanting, they're going, Miley, Miley, Miley! That's crazy and awesome. I know she just stops and she goes, Let's just bring her out. She walks out, everyone's going feral. Literally, Tana stands up, she starts a whole standing ovation. Everyone's standing at the city. Oh my god! Standing, clapping, standing ovation. Awesome. It was insane. Let's just bring her out. Oh and Miley just comes out and she's like, honestly, like I don't even have a speech prepared. I'm just gonna like speak from the heart. And she's just going and like everyone's just holding on to every word that she's saying because she's so captivating. And just like, holy shit, you are like larger than life. What are you doing? Like five yards away from me.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

That's gotta be a crazy feeling to like see that person in real life.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

It is so it literally felt like a hologram. I was like, there's no way she's actually. It was like, are you an apparition? Like, there's no way that you're real and you're standing there. Yeah. Um, and she talks to us for like 10 minutes, and she's just talking about like her experience as like Hannah Montana and like growing up and like shaping everyone's lives, and like just her whole take on it, and like coming to coming back together and like doing this whole like anniversary special and like what it means to her, and just doing this whole thing with Alex Cooper, which she also is like the wig's sending me to hell. She also was like joking around, but calling Alex Cooper like kind of creepy because Alex Cooper's like a super fan, and she's like she's going, yeah, she like low-key stalked me. She goes, She's like, I knew that Alex Cooper was like a super fan. Like, she came and like interviewed me for call her daddy at my house, and then like a few months or like a few years later, when she like you know got her big girl book, she bought the house like down the street from me. If I was Alex Cooper, I would have been like, I know. Mind you, she was like there in the crowd. She's like, that's what I mean. I would have been like, uh huh. And there's like articles about it today. Yeah. Oh. Like this one. Page six, Miley Cyrus calls out creepy Alex Cooper at Hannah Montana 20th Anniversary Special.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

Miley Cyrus called Alex Cooper out for being creepy and pretending she didn't know where the pop star lived during the Hannah Montana 20th anniversary special premiere. I'm like, I saw it. I was there. That's funny. I know. It was good. That's funny. Um but then obviously we watched the whole thing. It was just so cute. And like everyone was like singing along and just dancing. Like anytime like she would perform in the move, in like the what do you call it?

SPEAKER_02 22:32

The special? Yeah, in the special.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Um that's such an awesome way to watch something is to like have it kind of like carefree like that. Like no one's like, shut up. I want to watch this.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Yeah, no, it was cute. Everyone was like kind of like on the same page with it. And then it was like when she would talk and get serious, everyone would like lock in. It was just like, it was so crazy, like watching her speak and just like talk about everything and just like, yeah, realizing like the impact that she had on every single one of us, and like wow, just like the the nation, like the country as well. Like everyone, and like I'm sitting there watching all these like old clips of her, just being like, Holy shit, I forgot about the impact she had on me like as a kid too. And just literally, I wanted to be her so bad. So bad. I remember like watching the show growing up and being like, I want to look like her, I want to dress like her.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

I wanna, I wanna do that.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Like, I want to be her, I want to be a pop star. And like even planning like my back to school outfits around her and her fuck-ass vests. That's awesome. And the little scarves like this, like yeah, oh my god, it was just it was just so in like crazy to experience. And then after that was done, everyone packed into the Roosevelt Hotel where they had the after. And it was just oh my god, I was frolicking around. I had two glasses of Cabernet. Perfect. It was gorgeous. Willow Smith was there. I wait a second.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

I saw them on the red carpet, like pictures. Yes, yes. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

I know. Oh my god, and it was taking everything in me to not, I was like heavily influenced by you. Oh my god. I wanted to go up and go, wait a minute. Wait, oh, have I told this story?

SPEAKER_02 23:58

What? The wait a minute story. Oh, I don't know. I don't think I've yeah, wait a minute. But what basically one time I was in the car with my friend and her mom was driving, and her mom basically almost runs over Willow Smith, and Willow Smith goes, and I go, wait a minute. I just like I really wish everyone I've ever met knowledge that I did that because I think it's very funny.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

It that honestly, like, that's peak. That's peak. I I'm not kidding, like that's really good.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Yeah, and like I'll go up to any influencer or fucking celebrity, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

I know, and I was trying to channel that and like be shameless about it. And same thing, like with Jaden Smith. I wanted to walk up and go, hey, no one here is talking about the political economic state of the world. You go, but I am high, I'm page. Yeah, and I was channeling you and like I wanted to, but then I have I kind of flip-flop back and forth with like I want to do that, and then something stops me where I'm like, uh oh. Cause like this is like where the delusion comes in. Yeah. And I'm like, we're too adjacent.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

No, I'm we're in the same rooms as these people. Like, look, just right now. Right. We're in Jones on third.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Exactly. Right. We're in Jones. And it's like when I meet someone, I don't want to meet them as a fan, I want to meet them as an equal. Like, I don't want to walk up to Jaden Smith and be like, hi, I'm Paige. And he's like, Oh, yes, I know.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

See, I want to meet them as a fan right now, and then for like in a year or so, they're gonna be like, oh my god, I met that girl.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Oh my god, but then it's like yeah, honestly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

You know? Like, I still have a little bit of like grace, like there's a grace period right now. Like, I'm gap year between being famous. It's like actually such a delusion. So wait. Also, I have a bunch of questions about like kind of Han Montana adjacent questions. This leads me to one. Do you have an innate desire to be famous?

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Yes, yes, right? I think so, like like Maddie knew who she was from a young age to ask. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

I was thinking like how I would live my life if I was unburdened by this like almost divine desire to be famous.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

No, and that's so fucking real. And no one wants to be transparent about it because I almost answered it with like, no, yeah. You know what? Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

I was watching this Instagram reel of this mother be like, I'm getting my child ready today. We're going to Disney. We live in Orlando in like the Disney like fucking suburb. And I was literally thinking, like, God, that looks like so much fun. Too bad I'm busy.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

I wish I could live a normal, slow life. Literally, that's how I think. The photographer goes, and who are you? No, I'm just like, wait. No, we are. I'm like, we're in our chrysalis right now.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

I met um the girl group Stay Now today. Yeah. And I literally said, like, there, it was for like a like a social media thing where like, okay, like a few influencers, whoever like wants to join in and is free, they can like make content with them. So it's like, duh, I'm always free, I'm always down. And schedule. I literally, this one girl goes, okay, Molly, like, do you want to go now? And I go, Mr. Jamil, I'm ready for my close-up. Not one person got the reference.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Dude. I like, no, and it's so real. It's so real. Like, we were meant to be famous. I it's like we have like 10K Let's go. No, no, they're like blogging off as the seconds pass. Views are just dropping, bro. Like, oh my God. No, but I really do think. Yeah, no. I mean it right. I have a little desire. No, it mine's more so, and maybe this is like delusional manifesting, where it's like, mine's not even a desire. It's like, I just know. I just know this to be true. That's meant to be. I'm almost burdened by it. Yes, I'm like, this is my life's destiny. Like my life path. I'm sure if you looked up the number and like the description, it would be like fame. Fame. You know what that is, though? It's because we have like 10th house placements. True. And it's like totally. Again, like my son's in my 10th house, my Mercury's in my 10th house at the 29th degree, which I guess is like a critical degree, which it's like I'm supposed to be famous for like talking. Hello. Hello. Hello. Just making shit up again. But I think it's like it's my own delusional thinking where I'm like, oh, I'm meant to be famous. Not I want to be, I'm meant to be famous. Meant to be. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it just means like appealing to 10,000 people, sure. That's like to some degree.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Exactly. And that's that's one girl who's like, wait a second, my butt crack hurts too. Wait a minute. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Yeah. Oh my God. I know. So that's why I have some hesitancy to like approach celebrities. Cause again, I'm like, I want to meet you as an equal. I don't want to come up and be like, I'm such a fan, I can't take a picture. Which is like, there's no crime in that. It's like it's totally fine. Like 100%.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

The five times that's happened to me, it's been freaking amazing and boosts my dopamine levels for days.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

And you know what? Closed mouths don't get fed. And I learned that last night because I have pictures with hats by Abby. Yeah. I have a picture with makeup bag.

unknown 29:08

Makeup bag!

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Sorry, I just know the sound is like everyone with headphones.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Um, dude, but I was so scared too because like obviously, like, we've talked, we've talked our talk about her online. So I was like, God forbid, like what if she's seen a clip or something? Clearly, she hasn't. She hasn't. She doesn't even know who the fuck I am. We talk about her every episode. Just fucking swinging, swinging, beating a dead horse.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Oh my god, the horse is glue.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Like as well, yeah, literally. Oh my god. Oh, so I saw her and I was like, oh no, I get nervous, but Tana's like right there with me. Oh my god, perfect. So I was like, thank God she can kind of break the ice. Tana's so good at that. She walks up, she does her thing, she kind of breaks the ice, and I'm like, okay, if Michaela's cool with her, she'll be cool with me. Yeah. So after Tana's like done her big one, I go over and I'm just like, Michaela. I go, I think you're fucking hilarious. Whether it's intentional or not. She is!

SPEAKER_02 30:05

She's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

She's so funny. She's so funny. Again, is it intentional? Jury's out. Maybe. But whatever, either way, has me dying. So literally. I was like, can I please get a picture with you? Again, I'll insert. And she was honestly so sweet, obviously. Such a little sweetie. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

She was in that Hannah Montana wig.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Yeah, she had a blonde bust down.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Yeah, she kind of didn't look like Michaela.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

I know.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

I kind of wish like we could see her, like in her full Michaela-ness, like accent gone.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Real. Like, what would she be like? I know. Well, I even feel like last night when I was talking to her, like, she had it turned off for a second, then she was like, nice to meet you. See, it's almost like drag. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

She's like, she's like lowly performing drag. Like, you know how Trisha's like, it's kind of almost like drag? Yeah. She's a perfect. Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

She's a oh my god, she's a queen.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Like this is like she's playing a character. She's like Hannah Montana.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

She's you've heard it here for first, folks. Michaela Nugera.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Nuguera? Is Hannah Montana?

unknown 31:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Wow. Michaela Montana.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Michaela Montana.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Sounds like a star.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Um You get the makeup bag out front.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

We're going to Korea. Korea. But no, honestly, so nice, like nothing bad to say. Hmm. Shock. I love hmm. Shockingly. That's awesome. But obviously, everyone's on their best behavior. And like I was just frolicking around. Also. Michaela passed. Michaela, you get the flop cast approval. Today. Today. Yeah, you're safe for now. Um, I'm trying to think of who else. I saw Connor Wood. You know who Fibula? Yes. Oh my God. I'm like, I love him. I would. Connor, I would.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

He follows me back on TikTok, and one time he commented on one of my videos once, and I was like, I'm a comedian. I've made it.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Big leagues.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

And then I said, okay, I can make a podcast, and here we are. Wow. Oh my God. Well, I'm let's let's have him on. I'll DM. Lord knows I'll DM anyone who follows me back. Never follow me back.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

It's literally horrible for you.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Like I become crazy and will incessantly DM.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Oh yeah, no, I'm parasocial with that. I'm I'm sending people TikToks. I'm like, I think you'd like this.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

No, I'm literally, I this happened. Um, this like TikToker recently followed me back, and he was, he's the boyfriend of someone who went to my college. Uh-huh. And I would always see him like at my school. Actually, this is gonna be pretty easy to figure out who it is. Who cares? It doesn't matter. And um, he finally followed me back and I went, finally. And then we were talking for a little bit. He was like, Oh, okay, where do you live? And I was like, I live here, and he was like, Oh my god, I live like here. And I was like, Oh my god, and I just sent him my phone number, never responded.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Is it Chris Olson? No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

He would respond to me.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Yeah, I was gonna say, wait, yeah, so true.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

No, no, no, different age grade age range. Okay. Well, he's so funny, and I like, I was just like, great. I was like, here's my phone number. Did not respond to that. So I flew a little too close to the sun. It's kind of like I keep DMing Troy Savon, like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

Can't not. I know, I know it's hard. You give him a cookie. Baby, I'm taking the mile. Like, oh my god, I'm eating the whole sleeve. I'm eating the whole sleeve with regrets.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

With regrets. Like, oh, I'm turning into a depressed girl in high school. Like crying, binging, eating. Hating myself for eating it, being like, Troy, please respond to me. David's fame.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Yeah, literally, like anyone. Anyone. Oh my god, I'm just fucking, I'm throwing out the DMs.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Poor Grace Ryder. I'm obsessed with her. She knows it. I met her once. She was like, oh my god, hey, like what I was like, I'm like, I'm like, tweety burr! No, I'm like, you're gonna be a star. And she was like, dang. She was like, I guess, like, no, I was like, you are the next big thing. Like, just wait. Like, she's literally like, so I was just saying hello to you. She gave me your phone number, shouldn't have done that. Shouldn't have done that. Yeah, I'm taking mile. I don't do that. And yeah, she had to respond responding to valid for real.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Oh my god. Oh, also, some tea that Miley spilled. This is just like, I don't even know how I just like got there. But in the interview, like when Alex Cooper's talking to her, Alex Cooper was like, oh, by the way, like in the Hannah Montana movie, how'd you get Taylor Swift in there? And then Miley's like, oh, bring out the tea kettle. Obviously, because everyone hates Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

It's like Yeah, because everyone thinks it's freaking awesome to hate Taylor Swift. Fuck you. Everyone drinks Starbucks. Everyone listens to Taylor Swift. Everyone reads Colleen Hoover. Exactly. Don't piss me off. Aaron Zombie's like everyone wears Uggs. Everyone wears Uggs. Oh my God. And everyone's a women's bra.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

You literally wearing one right now. I was gonna say not working all that well. My shit's touching my knees, bro. Like, oh my gosh. I'm like walking to my car, I'm like tripping on my tits. Oh my god. But in the interview, she's like, oh my god, like bring out the tea kettle, whatever, whatever, you know, whatever. Um, and she was like, it wasn't even like she wasn't even spilling tea, but she did say the song, mind you, debatably one of her most popular You can change your hair. Change your hair to change your clothes. Written by Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Written by Miss Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

Gagged me. I didn't know. I said like a burger through my nose.

SPEAKER_02 35:40

I thought you were like gearing up to like really well, honestly, let me because basically in the movie, that's why I think she made a cameo. Because you know how Taylor Swift makes a cameo for like a split second in the movie? Like at the uh ho dance. Yes, yes. Uh do that. Yeah. Um, like Taylor Swift is sort of there, and then also the the guys from Cars. Highway. Laugh is that Lascal Flats are there. I love the cats. Young hoes run free. The guys from Cars. I thought Highway. Oh, anyway, that's why I think she makes the cameo because she wrote this the final song. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

In Miley Desk, she goes, gotta give credit where credit's due. As fuck. You do, because guess what? If not, she'll sue you. She'll get you good. Yeah, she'll get you good. Get her again. Hit her again. Oh my god. Yeah, and whatever. Poor Olivia Rodrigo. I know.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Girl, I'm on your side.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Yeah, yeah. Taylor was wrong for that.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

It's like the one thing I can't get behind. Oh my god. So if everyone remembers, well, I guess I can introduce it all you can.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

So if everyone remembers, um, obviously everyone has seen the last episode of Flopcast. Keeps up, I know. Um, Paige was going to bring me on a date with her to this guy who she met in Western Massachusetts when she was home for winter break. Our break from this.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Yeah, our break from a break.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Yeah, literally, like, my whole life's a fucking break. Like, I was thinking the other day, I was like, I need a vacation.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

No, that'll be me. I'll I'll get back from Cabo and be like, oh, I need to take a rest. What?

SPEAKER_02 37:26

And anyway, but she met this guy who lives in LA who's from this place, so she's from New Year's crack. New Year's crack. New Year's crack. And then he invited her to his birthday party. Yes. Question mark. Which is like kind of crazy because like you haven't seen each other since the New Year's crack. We go to like this, like, um, you'll be married in a year in the suburbs. Like, as like also that's a deep cut reference to anyone's like yelling. Um, like brewery, like obviously it's a brewery in downtown, which like was kind of crazy. That's what I said.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

I was like, who first of all, who who the hell are you? Are you on serious? Who has a who has a birthday party in downtown? Which is just crazy because he also like lives in the valley, I'm pretty sure. Um, he lives in the valley. He lives in the valley, so I'm like, why are you doing that down there? And then come to find out, it's a brewery, which is just the most like millennial again, going back to like the mustache on the finger, like, but like, oh my god, the worst part of it is.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

This is the worst part, and also is so damning considering everything we've just said. I know! We walk in, he goes, How's your butt crack? Oh because here's the thing I don't mind when people bring up the butt crack of it all. Like, actually, please, like, we need representation, Pylon Idol warriors. Yeah. But it ins also is I actually have to change why I'm sitting low-key. Um, because like it made me think of it. Um, but that insinuates that he has since watched the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

So, and we've obviously talked about him.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Hello. Hello, it stopped me dead in my tracks. I'm not kidding. We're walking in. I say hi to him. I brought with me Molly, and then I brought Amish Aaron, our podcast producer. This is Amish. Wait, you're kind of frame mogging me. Get out! Get out!

unknown 39:21

Get out!

SPEAKER_00 39:24

Um, why? I really don't know. It just felt right at the time. I was like, we need like a boy to kind of like soften the blow almost. Yeah, because we're coming in like Tweedle D and Tweedledee.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

Lun's blazing.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Yeah. Like we're kind of like a lot. So I was like, we need like Amish there. And he brought his roommate with him. So we show up, we say hi to the guy, literally, yeah, turn small. He goes, How's your butt crack? Stop me, dead in my tracks. How's your butt crack? Oh. I go, did you watch the podcast? He goes, Yeah. And then he's like, Okay, come meet my friends. We walk up to this table. It looks like high school detention.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Yeah, it's like a random gay, a random lesbian, not with each other, like hanging out, just randomly placed with like a couple. Like it was so crazy.

SPEAKER_00 40:14

No, no, no, no. And it was like a straight DJ from Boston.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Yeah, who pissed me off so fucking bad, the little one. Yeah. He was short and had a complex Napoleon.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Oh, yeah. And here's the thing. We'll call him Napoleon. Napoleon. Here's the thing, too. People from Boston need to make it known that they're from Boston. They literally, literally, like no one gives a fuck. Hey, shut up. Like he looked. Shut up. He's going to run. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, you know how we do it in Boston. Oh, well, because I'm from Boston. Like literally. Oh my God, drop it. My God. It was so.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

At one point he booped my nose. I think I looked at Amish. I said, I'm over him. I said, I can I I turned to someone else. I said, I don't want to talk to him anymore.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Unfortunately, like I'm so the type where it's like, I will turn anything into a bit. So like this man's talking to me like in a very serious way. And I'm fucking with him so heavy. I know. I am just like everything he says, I'm just kind of like little bro in him. Like so I'm having fun. You're pissed off. Amish is just over there, like, I don't even know what he's doing. Just drinking. And I'm just like, oh my god, what are we doing here? And then it was really bad too.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Cause I had this like moment of clarity where I was like, why have this like unwavering addiction to an ugly man?

SPEAKER_00 41:30

So then I don't know. And then like last night, my situation ship FaceTimes me. He texts me, he goes, What are you doing? I'm like, I just got home from the Hannah Montana premiere. What are you doing? He goes, balloons. I said, What does that mean? He FaceTimes me. He's doing whippets in his whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

I was just gonna say, does that mean whippets?

SPEAKER_00 41:46

By himself! He is doing whippets in his bed. There's gotta be more to life.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

There's gotta be more to life!

SPEAKER_02 41:57

There's gotta be more to life. Whippets in your bed alone? This is what I get. What did I hiding in in the wig?

SPEAKER_00 42:05

What did I do to deserve this?

SPEAKER_02 42:07

Oh my god. No, because I just Whip It's Alone in the bed. Whip it's alone in bed. No, because I think what it is, and we were talking about this, where it's like, if you went to like, like you're a pretty good artist. Like you, you know your way around a pencil. If you were to go to like an art 101 class, like you'd probably be the best in that class. And so like you'd probably have everyone beat. But if you were in like an art like 501 class, maybe you'd be like more competition level. You know what I mean? And so it's like you're playing with the 101s.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

I'm playing with the little leagues.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

You're playing in the little leagues. Like it's literally just cheap. You're out of their league. Like it's that's literally what it is.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

And then it becomes this kind of like confirmation bias when it's like totally it doesn't work out with the little leagues, and then I'm like, oh my god, even the little leagues can't handle me. Yeah, even like the little leagues like don't want me.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

No, but that's not it. Where I'm like, oh, it's like you don't want the little leagues, obviously it's not gonna work out.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

There is a reason why they're like, Yeah, there's a reason why they're in the little leagues, but then it's like I take it and then like turn it against myself, and I'm like, well, why doesn't this person want me totally when I see them as no, like lesser than like it by any fucking means like that sounds awful, but just like as low-hanging fruit? Yeah, sure. Take the mic, turn the mic off. Where it's like I'm kind of looking at them like, oh yeah, maybe I'm uh I'm I'm I'm aiming down a little here. Um, and then it's like when it doesn't work out or like they like don't want me back or something, then it like triggers this deep internal wound, and I'm like, Well, totally you don't want me, what's wrong with me? Oh, I'm ugly, oh I'm boring, oh I'm not funny enough, oh I'm too much, like whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Which is the wound that everyone everyone's dealing with in their own weird way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

You know, like and then I think it's like I almost do it to like reconfirm it. And it's so twisted, it's so sick and twisted. Interesting. I know, and then I think I like put myself like in this loop. Yeah. Ugh Damn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Oh, I but like I get it, because like in a way I do a similar thing, but I like pick people who like I don't like and who also don't know I exist. So then I'm like great.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

So then Alyssa Lou.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Alyssa Liu, if you can fucking hear me.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Wait, keep going.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

I have a stomachache now.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Um so I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

No, it's okay. No, but anyway, yeah, yeah. It's like we're all sort of dealing with what this like, oh, do people actually want me in our own weird way? Mm-hmm. Like, yeah. Clavicular, he's dealing with that too.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

With Wolvicky. Which leads me! Wait, but like, actually, too, and like we can get like real on it for a second. Like, me in relationships, I have this problem where it's like once I have it, I can't enjoy it because I'm so afraid of losing it.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

That's very interesting. I feel like that's very cancer.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

It is very cancer. I am always waiting for the shoe to drop. I live in constant, like anticipatory grief of like, when's this going to end? I can never enjoy it for what it is. I'm always like, when like, you know, like when's the curtain gonna close? Like I'm always waiting for that moment.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

And then in waiting for that moment, that moment that exists in everything, because everything is temporary. The curtain will always close, even if you get married, like someone's gonna die. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

And it's like now you're living in that moment, even during as it's happening, and I can't enjoy it for what it is because in the back of my mind, it's like this looming feeling of like this is gonna end. When are they gonna end it? When when's like the rug gonna get pulled from that? Yeah, right. It's always this feeling of like I can never just be like fully comfortable. Yeah, you know, even like in my last relationship, I think like that was my biggest thing, like going into it, because like it's made me like this mindset has made me kind of like an avoidant attachment style. Yeah. Where it's like I don't want to like get into a serious relationship because I'm so scared of it ending. Um, which is like really it's like a catch-22. Totally. I finally got into like this relationship, like with this person, my ex, and everything's going so fucking well, and like this entire time I'm so afraid of it ending. Like I'm talking to all my friends, and I'm like, you know, just like expressing this feeling, and ultimately it ends up happening, and I think it like confirms that belief even more. But I also think it was like a line. I kind of knew. I kind of knew, yeah, but I also think it was like a lesson to me, like stop thinking like this. Like it was, it was like the universe teaching me the lesson.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Yeah, because like look, look, fine. You want this, we'll give it to you. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

Yeah, exactly. And I think like because that breakup also happened like so out of fucking nowhere, like out of left field for me. It was like so shocking and just like ended so abruptly. Yeah. Where it was just kind of this thing of like, okay, yeah, it's completely out of your control, and like this is you're never gonna be able to like control someone else. So stop.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

It's two people.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Yeah, I don't know. And I it just really is like it's the whole concept. I think I like really had to learn. It's like, oh my god, like love is just like as corny as it sounds, like putting yourself out there, putting yourself on the line, like knowing the risk, and like is it worth it? Like, right and just knowing like the experience, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Well, isn't that like the whole like um eternal sunshine of the spotless mind?

SPEAKER_00 47:09

Yeah, yeah. Like, would you rather love and like seen it? What?

SPEAKER_02 47:13

Just love the album Eternal Sunshine. Oh, it's like super natural.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

Hey, Joan.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

Ah yeah, literally we're here.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

Oh my god, wait, you have to watch. I mean I mean, yeah, you get the idea.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

I'm like, meh, do I need to see it? Like 500 days of summer, do I need to see it? I get it.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

Favorite movie of all time. Really? Have you ever seen it? No. Well, because in that dynamic, I'm I'm Tom every single time I'm Tom.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Because don't they break up?

SPEAKER_00 47:38

Yeah, like they're never, they're like, it's literally like situationship final boss. Yeah, it's the whole their whole relationship is like a situationship. And it's like the first time you watch it, you're like, it's summer and Tom. Uh-huh. Summer's like, I don't want a relationship, like, this isn't for me. Tom's kind of like delusional and like living in viewing like everything through his lens of like this is a relationship, like I'm in love with this girl, like whatever. And then ultimately in the end, she's like, Never want, like, I just never wanted this, like whatever. He's all heartbroken about it. He's fucked up over it. And like the first time you watch it, you're kind of like on his side, and you're like, oh my god, yeah, she's fucked up for that. Then you watch it the second time, you're like, wait, she was very forthcoming the entire time about like what she wanted, and like the whole movie is kind of like skewed to view it through his lens. His lens. Because of what it's like, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. And every time I'm Tom. Cause I'll take like a situation ship and I'll be like, oh my god. Like, I'll romanticize it and make it into something that it's not in my mind.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

And then it's like, oh my god, switch your perspective because that is not what it is.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

No, and yeah. I yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

I do that a lot.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Same.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Where it's like my perception on things are very warp, it's very like warped.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

It's very warped, and I get really like like real limerency, you know.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

I am the fucking president.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

I love it. Like, oh my god. Like, no, I'm bad. I'm really bad. I hear something about someone who I had a crush on like two years ago. I'm like, how are they doing?

SPEAKER_00 49:02

I I will never let anything go.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

No, I'm like, I still have a crush on every person I've ever had a crush on.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Oh, me too. Are you kidding?

SPEAKER_02 49:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

My crush, my boyfriend from high school got engaged. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 49:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

I haven't spoken to him in like 12 years. I'm like, what the literal hell? Yeah. But like it's it's so real. I think like I hold on to things and it's like I don't know if I ever like really get over things.

SPEAKER_02 49:24

And I think that that's kind of like beautiful. I feel like we shouldn't be getting over things the way people think we should be getting over things. Oh, you should get over it. No. No, actually, you now know this thing and you can grow with it. Great.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

It takes yeah, it takes me like a long time to like actually get over some shit too. Like my my my breakup happened like God, what, August? End of August, beginning of September. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

Six, seven?

SPEAKER_00 49:51

It's like whatever.

SPEAKER_02 49:53

For the audio listeners, I just did the six-seven hand motions.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

Get into that.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

But then sometimes I think about it, I'm like, no, I'm not. Better to have loved and lost or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

But then sometimes I'm like, no, actually, you wasted my fucking time. You could have just left me alone. Sometimes it really is just as simple as that. It's like, okay, the memories were cute, but like you really did your fucking you did a toll on me. You did some irreversible damage to me.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

You know?

SPEAKER_02 50:20

Yeah. And then I guess like in proving that like these like weird boys will like you, you kind of like are like, wait, I'm awesome, but it never proves to be right because they're just weird boys.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

I know it's like at the end of the day, a man's still just a man.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Doesn't matter, it doesn't matter what kind of man, doesn't matter if they're working at Wall Street or doesn't have to be a good thing. And you can never forget this.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

You can't forget this, even if you're gay boyfriends. Yeah. You cannot forget that they're still men. Like they still will be a little misogynistic towards you. And every gay boy watching this, I hope you're like, thank you. I'll check myself. Period. At the end of the day, a gay man's still just a man. A gay man's still just a man. And like men, like you just walk through this earth differently, and like it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

Like, yeah, again, it's your perception, the lens in which to the world will never be.

SPEAKER_02 51:03

You all have it from Tom.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Haven't even seen it.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

I'm just I'm just that good. She just knows things. Yeah, anyway. Oh my god. Sorry about the flop therapy session.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

No, I feel like they need it. Oh, well, this is a little off topic, but I could make it on topic. Yeah. The Bachelorette, we canceled the Bachelorette season.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

We did.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

We filmed the day before they announced the cancel. I she got chills. The day before ABC announces they're canceling this season of The Bachelorette, which, mind you, fully filmed. So insane. Billboards like on Sunset Boulevard, like commercials ready to go.$100 million down the drain. So insane. Insane. It was supposed to come out March 22nd. Holy shit. What they're doing instead, they're re-airing a season that we've already seen of American Idol.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

You did that.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

Period.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

You did that.

SPEAKER_02 51:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

That's impact. Yeah. I honestly, they're really crazy. And I think like people are really there, people are swinging the pendulum in two ways. And I'm kind of like dead center right now. We're like, I think people are saying like she's probably also she's probably experiencing reactive abuse. I could totally see how that's a thing. Yeah. One, she hasn't said anything. Two, I think that's because maybe she's like, she's been pretty silent. I think it's probably because they're building a case.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

Like against Dakota.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

So like that's what my mind's going towards. Okay is watch this like come out like before this episode's up. But like I'm filming, let me. Yeah, wait. Tuesday, March 24, 3.28 p.m. Okay. I think that like she's probably building a case against Dakota right now. But if it is reactive abuse, like it's still crazy. And like, I'm sorry, like your children are still impacted on on this level, and like I'm not blaming the victim at all. But again, I think there might be like more to it than people are I think both people are at fault in this scenario.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

Yeah. I mean, I honestly I don't know enough about it. Like I've seen a few clips, but like I don't follow her. I don't know about her man or Dakota. I don't know anything. So I don't even want to speak on it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

Yeah, and I also really try like I've been re-watching season one of Secret Lives and Mormon Wise because I just like I love Mormons. Like Book of Mormon was on my Spotify raps. Like I love it. Real House is Solid City Down. Like um, ooh, that should be an episode. We do a Mormon episode.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

Down.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

Great. We get like big fancy sodas. We get like Botox. Yep. Right. Yeah. Ketamine. Liter. Please. Um, I've been thinking maybe I need that. I know.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Well, now they have like ketamine therapy.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

I know. I've just been like self-diaging. I need that. Literally. Um, but I've been re-watching season one, and in season one, everyone's really anti-Dakota. And I really think they're just both like really crazy to each other.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

I mean, that makes complete sense. That makes complete sense of like how it would be like reactive, and it's like, oh my God, you have to take it there, but it's like maybe more will come out.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

I don't know. Yeah, I think like I'm thinking right now, from like how silent she's been about this, more will come out.

SPEAKER_00 54:11

She's building the Rico case. She's like collecting all of her evidence. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

That's what I think is happening. If she's smart, that's what she's doing. If she's dumb, she's just staying silent.

SPEAKER_00 54:19

She's just staying silent and like thinking it'll pass over.

SPEAKER_02 54:21

Going to Swig and getting a 42-ounce fucking Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Right. Going to Wawa.

SPEAKER_02 54:27

Yeah. I know. Wawa's so awesome. Shout out Wawa.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

Shout out Wawa. Like, get those out of here. Bring her over here. Few things we need out here: Mo's. Well, we don't have Mo's. You have Moe's though, because East Coast, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome to Mo's. We don't have Moe. Welcome to Moe's. Moe's is pretty good. Moes is just like Chipotle, but a little bit better.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

You can get like an elevated crunch up supreme.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

Yeah. They have like fun things. Really delouche. I'm getting hungry thinking about it. Not enough Dunkin' drive-throughs around there. Duncan, period. I know. And like it's literally shit from a butt. Duncan sucks. It's disgusting. But it really is kind of just like you roll the dice. It's like, okay, I'm gonna get like my my caramel swirl iced coffee. I get the Charlie.

unknown 55:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:06

Right. Ordering the Charlie in 2026. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Putting money in her pockets. Love you guys. Keeping her mouth fed. Hello. Literally.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

And it's just like, yeah. It's also the high school experience out here must be so crazy. Cause like, what do you mean you're not going to Dunkin' Donuts?

SPEAKER_00 55:21

I would be late every day because I would drive to like the Dunkin' Drive-thru. I'd get my iced coffee. I'd walk into school, keys jingling 20 minutes late, sit down with my iced coffee. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

In college, I was like too old to be acting like this. But my friends, we would go, we would have a break, we'd have a three-hour class, and we'd have a 10-minute break in between. In that 10-minute break, obviously we'd make it a 30-minute break, and we'd go to Dunkin' Donuts in that 30-minute break. Yeah. And obviously then we'd come back in classes that already started, and like we'd have Dunkin', and everyone would be like, it did bring my grade down.

SPEAKER_00 55:55

It's just like it's the East Coast experience.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

But it's like it's the East Coast experience. Like, that's like kind of what you should be doing when you're in school. And like I can't believe like West Coast, you don't have this.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

I'm like, I get it out here. You guys have like Malibu Commons and you have the grove and you have like all these cool things you're probably partying at like Hyde when you're 12.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

Yeah, and you're like, oh my god, I saw Jaden Smith like when I was in middle school, like just walking down the street. It's like okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

Yeah, your friends are in the middle of the street.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

Well, I saw a crack addict when I was in middle school, and guess what? Yeah. I gave him Duncan.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

You ever been to Worcester, capital of heroin? Worcester! Worcester Worcester. That's how everyone says that.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

Um Kevin can fuck himself. Have you seen that show?

SPEAKER_00 56:30

No.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

It's really good. Is it in Worcester? It takes place in Worcester.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

I'm shocked. Is it about heroin?

SPEAKER_02 56:36

No, but it's about it's about um like uh, you know, Kevin James, like King of Queens. Mm-hmm. It's kind of like that, and so it's shot like um, like a sitcom, and then it follows the wife, and so every time they're no longer in the living room, it like cuts to her like single camera, and she's like, I fucking hate him. Like he's so fucking mean to me. Like, fuck you, like I Kevin, like go fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah, it was ripped Wester Core. Yeah, Worcester Core. It's like honestly, you should tap it out. You'd probably actually really find it fun.

SPEAKER_00 57:02

Wait, okay. Yeah. Let me get into it.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

It's actually very cool because it's like literally shot like a sitcom, like multiple camera angles, like bright lights, and then the minute someone exits or like is outside, it's like shot like how like um girls or like the bear, like single cam. Yeah, it's very cool.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Do they have accents so they sound like makeup bags?

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makeup bags.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

And they like heighten the accents when they're in the sitcom. Mm-hmm. It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Also, speaking of like being kind of back and forth on a situation, not having like a strong opinion either way.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Ooh, segue.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

Hello. Chapel Roan. I want to talk about her with the paparazzi. I want to talk about her with the kid, like the security guard.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

She kicked a kid?

SPEAKER_00 57:41

She shot him in the head.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

No. Timothy Chalamet bombed the opera. Oh, and you know what? Chapel Roan, let's kick children.

SPEAKER_00 57:50

Yeah, and I have a whole take on that too. I literally swear to God, Chris Jenner did some, like she planned a sting operation on Chapel Roan. She was like, we need to take the heat off of Timmy. Get Chapel. I know. You're on it. Like I genuinely agree. I'm not even kidding because we were talking about it on here. We were like, oh my god, Chris Jenner works hard. She's gonna do something. I swear to God, because everyone forgot about the channel. She planted the kid. She planted the kid. She planted the security card.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

She said, Stormy wear this wig. Yeah. Go stand out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:20

Uh-uh-uh. You don't want to talk about 9-11. 9-1. Here's my a lamb. Here's my whole thing on like Chapel Road and like as a whole. And it's like where I stand on like being a celebrity and like dealing with the public and like paparazzi and all that. Part of me is like, I understand the want to have like your boundaries and like be respected and like be treated like as a normal gen pop would, but you're not. And I think like the the territory that comes with being famous and being a celebrity, you're sacrificing your normal C for that. It's like that is part of the job. Just how every single job has its downfalls. It's like, okay, you're working at a nine to five in a cubicle, you're gonna deal with fucking idiots on like totally.

SPEAKER_02 59:03

You know, you can't talk to a client like that. You can't talk to a boss like that.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Yeah, it it's kind of like, yeah, you're dealing with idiots on an email thread where it's like this could have been like you're going to a meeting. This could have been an email. This could have been an email, you're going to a meeting and they're talking about the shit from a butt. Yeah. It's the same thing. Like, no matter what job you work in, you're gonna deal with some bullshit. The trade for fame, it just so happens that bullshit, it's it's a little bit of comfort. You give up a little bit of comfort. You give up your comfort and you get at that's and we know it.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

We have an innate desire to be famous, and we're super willing to give up for that.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

I'm ready for it.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

And I And I'm ready, and we're asking Mr. DeMille. I'm ready for my close-up.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

Yeah, right. And I love when I love when a girl comes up to me and she's like, oh my god, Paige. I go, Yeah. And I will. Here's the thing too, I learned from Tana because she is so fucking good. She could be having the worst day of her life. She's so gracious. She is the nicest. She could be having the worst day of her life. If a fan comes up to her and they're like, Tana, hi, like, can I meet you? Can I take a picture? She will give everyone the time of day. She will sit down, she will have a conversation with them for as long as they want. She'll take the picture, she does the thing. I can do it with a broken heart. Like, yeah. Oh my God. And I just watch her do, I just watch the way that she moves, and I was like, oh my God, like my my hats off, like my utmost seriously. It's like, holy shit, yeah. That is your job. Like, that is your job. And like, yeah. I don't know. So I think like I lean more that way, like on like the whole chapel roan and just like wanting respect and like her boundaries. And it's like, yeah, I'm kind of just like, you, you're a show girl. It comes with the job title.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

I think I really agree with what you're saying, but I have a little bit of a different take on the chapel roan of it all. Because I think it's almost kind of like her brand to do that. To be like, you shut the fuck up, you know. And I saw a clip of her actually talking to Miley Cyrus at the Anne Montana of it all, being like, you actually took a lot of the heat of like yelling at paparazzi to like get away from me and yelling at red on red carpets and being like, stop yelling at me. And like you took a lot of heat for like being weird and different on the red carpet, and like now I get to do that, and like I really appreciate it. And like, I think that's honestly kind of just Taperone's brand at this point. Like it's kind of like flipped. Like at first, I was kind of like, girl, like you really have to realize what's going on. Like, if you want to be a pop star, be a pop star, then wear your wig, you know what I mean? Like be the Hannah Montana, which Chopperone actually does do, which is awesome. Right. Um, but with the with the kid situation, I have to come to her defense because apparently it was all the security guard's fault because apparently she didn't even see the kid.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:33

Oh, how do you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:33

Which like I believe too. And also, anyone has a you have a right to say no, but you also have a right to be criticized for saying no to a kid.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:41

And that's the thing. And here's my right, it's both as a celebration. Even influencers who are like, I can't deal with the hate. Get a normal job then. Get a normal job. If you're putting yourself out to the public, you are opening the door for any type of scrutiny, judgment, commentary, judgment, that's all art is art is just an expression of yourself in any way.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

For me, it's talking shit on different influencers and celebrities, but that's who I am. And you, I any criticism of me is pretty valid to say, like, oh, she's just talking for likes, clicks, and views.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

That's like what I'm doing. That's what I do. Like the whole shit. Exactly. It's like, oh, Chaperon, like, hey, and guess what?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

I'm okay with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:18

Like, that comes with the territory. And that's what I'm saying. It's just kind of like if it bothers you to such an extent, also, same thing with like influencers.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:25

They're like, also, yeah, I just said that influencing is an art form.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

And is. And is that. Look at us right now. No, okay. I was like, um, but it's just kind of like if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. Because it's like there are 50,000 other bitches who want that so bad and would do unwillingly.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

Or Lady Gaga, she spends her money on security. You know, like there's that clip of her where she's like, I don't spend my money on cars or like stuff like that. I spend it on security. Guess what? I never see Lady Gaga out and about. I never see her getting into fights with the paparazzi because guess what?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

She keeps it under wraps. You keep it under wraps. Or if you're going out in public, and I'm sorry, like I understand, like you want to live a normal life. You're not a normal girl. You're not an ordinary girl. You're a chapel row or any celebrity. Any celebrity. It's kind of like you have to go under disguise. If you don't want people to see you and recognize you, put your hood up, put the sunnies on.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

Totally.

unknown 1:03:16

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

Wear a wear a black wig. And also, like, your hair is very recognizable. How you dress is very recognizable. People really like what you do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:25

People really like the art that you make. And shit, I do I'm she wrote red wine, red wine supernova. Yeah. I can't hate her.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

No, I love her. I love her. I even like I think it's kind of awesome that this is her brand now, but it's like everything you do, every pushback, it's now just going to be like, oh, well, this is her brand.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:40

Yes, exactly. And like because I love her down. I love her down. I know everyone has like their issues with her, and I understand why she's not everyone's cup of tea by any fucking name.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:50

No, I also, we also have this perspective. I'm speaking roll the bus you, you can obviously interject. Where it's like, I'm gonna go up to a celebrity that I like and say, oh my god, I love you, because guess what? If someone was like, oh my god, I I love flop past. Yeah, I would be elated. I would be elated, oh my god, you like this thing I do. Yes. That's so awesome. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:09

Like, if I've like impacted anyone in any way, shape, or form just by like getting on here and talking shit into a mic and like, I don't know, farting and like burping on camera, it's like, okay, like if you like that and you resonate with that and like you like me, and like I just I want to know that. Like, I don't want anyone to ever like as if we're Beyonce. Like I don't want anyone to ever like sitting in the public and like to be famous is like a burden to me. But it's like I also don't want there to be such a thing now around like people being scared to like go up to like their favorite celebrity and like and obviously everything within reason, don't be fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

And if you're and if you're crazy, I think that anyone has a right to be crazy back. I oh, you're crazy, you go up to Chaparron, you're like, Chapel, Chapel. She like the paparazzi, a lot of times when she reacts, super freaking valid. It's people yelling in her face, not moving, and like, you know what? Yeah, I get that. Like, you you're allowed to say your shit, but this is just going to happen, and you kind of have to expect it for a little minute.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

And if not, McDonald's is hiring. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:11

Or like you could become a songwriter.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:13

Yeah, pull a Julia Michaels, just go behind the scenes, be a ghostwriter. Yeah. It's just like, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

It's like, have your cake and eat it too. I get it. I want that, like, I want that for you, but it's just not the reality right now. Yeah, no. And so it can't be expected.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

You can ask for it, but it can't be expected. Exactly. Same thing. It's like if you anyone, like if you're sitting down, you're eating a meal at a restaurant, and a fan comes up and asks for a picture. Sometimes even influencers will be like, and I was eating dinner.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:41

Yeah. Okay. And what? This person came up. Uh Tana's standing up right away. She's going to take a picture. Joan Grande's at lunch. We just interrupted her fucking meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Met us with such kindness. It's just kind of like a wonderful woman. I I just think like if you want to be in that position, know what comes with it and act accordingly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:59

You know? Yeah. And I think also like there's a big difference between like a fan like you and I or like someone who's trying to sell a picture.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:07

And like your reaction to that allowed to be different.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:10

Yep. Yeah. There's definitely there's so much nuance to it. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:12

Yeah, which also like makes me feel bad about being like Chapel Rowan, like come on, but I'm also like valid, but I'm also like, you know what I mean? There's a super ambivalent way of yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:22

A hundred percent. And also it's like still love her down. Also literally. Also, almost like the more that a woman gets criticized in the media, the more I love her. I'm like the worse you are, the more the public hates you. I'm like, oh yeah, literally, I'm like, yes. Like I love her bad. And also, it's like I do love that she's a bitch. I love that she's mean, and I like, and also everyone always says, like, we want divas, we want divas. You don't actually want divas.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

You want like sweet, nice people. You want Sabrina Carpenter. You want Sabrina Carpenter, who's wonderful and amazing, but we also need the Joblerons.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:52

And I love keep them balanced. God, I love her. And she is generational talent, and she is such a fucking artist.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

Generational talent.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:58

It is crazy. I visionary.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

I so agree with you. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:02

That's why I'm like, I give her like so much slack because again, you wrote, I'm like, oh my god, the fall of the Midwest princess.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:10

On Wednesday. Yeah. Right. Literally.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

The rise, the fall.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:15

The subway. Wow, what a good song. That's what I'm saying. It's just like, oh my God. Like, honestly, probably no no one cares about this, but Jessie from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, she's been talking about this whole season. Oh, I'm gonna divorce my husband. Her husband files divorce from her and then files a restraining order against her.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:33

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:36

No, I'm sure people out there care.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:38

Oh, I have a question for you. Yeah. Do you pay for parking?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

Here?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:42

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Oh, like at my place?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:44

In general. No, this is like an in general. And like at a meter?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:48

Yes. No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

Yeah, like at a meter.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm like a I'm a proper civilian. You pay for parking. I I pay my taxes, I pay for parking. Uh I do I go to jury duty.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:59

I feel it out with the parking.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:01

Oh, well, if I'm like running in somewhere and it's gonna be like 10 minutes, like I'll leave the meter red. Yeah. It depends. Again, like it depends on the stitch. Depends on the sitch. But no, like I'll I'll I'll usually tap it. Because I'm scared. Because you know what? I've been fucked over like one too many times in LA with the parking and it's like I'm in somewhere for five minutes, I come out,$80 ticket on the dash. I'm like, just throw in a quarter.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:20

Yeah, exactly. Okay, interesting. Because I've been kind of icarus for a little bit right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:25

Ooh, yeah, you're getting dangerously close.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:28

Um, and then if you were Hannah Montana, what color would your hair be? Like what would your wig color be? Oh my god. Because mine would be like red.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:36

Oh wow. I was gonna say maybe like a pink. Right? Like pink.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:39

Like so I put my headphones on.

unknown 1:08:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

No, but like down to my ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:43

Oh, that would be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:45

Like your disguise wig.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:46

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it'd be pink.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:48

Or like Odessa.

unknown 1:08:50

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:50

Just like curly. Curly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:53

I think I'd want mine kind of like Chapel Rowan. Oh, did you hear about this? A quadruple amputee cornhole um champion killed someone. Yeah. I saw it on Instagram. I literally thought it was a meme, and I was like, guys, don't make it like don't make fun of disabled people.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:10

Yeah. It's real. Cornhole. The cornhole killer.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

Yeah, and then he was driving. Like a Paralympic sort of vibe. How's that work? I don't know. What that means. What that means. Usually it's like different buttons that they put in the car, but still I don't understand because of the quadruple part. Um, and then secondly, Charlie Kirk's mentor dies in a freak pickleball accident. You heard of this one?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:38

A freak pickleball accident? Freak pickleball accident.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:43

Alright. He gets sniped from like 50 feet away. Like then we call it pickleball accident.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:48

Yeah, he got a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:49

Wow. His mentor.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:52

Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:52

I'm like, first of all, Erica Kirk at it again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:56

Oh, kind of lucky giving Erica Kirk with this.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:58

No, I was looking at you. You kind of look like a Targaryen.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:01

Oh!

SPEAKER_00 1:10:01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

So such a compliment. Not the Erica Kirk, but Targaryen.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:05

No, but you're so Targaryen. Mine, I look like uh Target. Yeah. Yeah, you look like Khaleesi.

unknown 1:10:15

Yay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

Oh my god. I look like I I mean having the blonde wig, it really made me learn. Like I have dark features. Like I'm not suited for it. But you could do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

You could pull it off. You're kind of like pulling it off. Really? Well, I was bored my entire life.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:27

Until like this is just a real cool-toned blonde for you. Yeah, it's really, it's really not doing me any what any justice. Um, also, real quick before we sign off, Ethel Kane Lana Delray beef.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

Tried and true.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:41

I know. And this like literally just re-ignited because they had beef in the past.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:45

Yes, they had a big beef in the past, which is kind of like hard to follow because you're like, girls, what are we talking about? Again, it's just like okay. Because no one honestly cared that much other than them.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:54

No, literally. Yeah. Actually, I don't even think Ethel cared that much. I think it was Lana literally just like poking the bear, and then Ethel just kind of like, okay. Um also, this is not me taking sides. I love both of them equally. That's like asking a parent to like pick their favorite kid. It's like I I probably have one, but like I'm not gonna like say it, and like I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, exactly. Um but this all happened because this Instagram account posted like um a flyer for a drag brunch where it's like Ethel Kane versus Lana Delray drag brunch. Hilarious. Perfect. Lana Del Ray comments under it, she goes, This isn't funny. That's an abuser. Um, first of all, it's hilarious. Yeah, first of all, it's hilarious. Also, like I don't know. Stop pitting. I'm like, stomp, guys, stop. Break it up. Break it up. Heated rivalry. Heated rivalry. Wow, that's the Yuri I need.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

We we have Yuri at home.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:54

Also, I just wanna like also go on record and say everyone who's like Ethel Kane, like ripped off Lana's music, they could not be further apart.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

Nessa Barrett ripped off Lana's music. I wasn't gonna say it. Yeah, Ethel Kane, she's doing her own thing. She has her own sound.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

She has completely her own sound. I think because they both have themes of like Americana. Totally. In in totally different ways. Lana's like old American.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:15

And like she's more like Hampton.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:17

Yes, like Hampton's role is like House of Nebraska. South, like religious trauma, like dark gothic. And then Lana's very much like classic glamour, like country club.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:28

Yes. And I would argue that Lana, her new fixation with like Americana is post-ethels.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:35

Yeah, she's getting a little more like country southern with it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Because of that lasso, which where's that?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:42

Uh just stirring the body. Mind you, it's like but like love both of them like genuinely equally, but they're different. They're different, they have their completely different sounds and like themes that they write about.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:55

I love Lana Moore, but I like Ethelmore.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:58

Wow. Yeah. I can't pick. I really, I really can't. Should we do like a gloving goodbye? No, I was gonna do like a uh reveal, like I'm not really Hannah Monte. Yeah, I'm not really Hannah. Cage! Oh my god, Molly? Cage! Wow! Oh my god, there she is.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:19

This wig, more like Tana.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:22

They're literally Tana's wigs. I Ubered them to my house before the pod.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:27

Tana Montana.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

You know what? We're gonna start Trisha. We're gonna start Trishafying ourselves, like dressing up on theme.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

She's coming out with a memoir. Oh, she is! Yeah, crying on my kitchen floor.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:40

So fucking excited. Oh my god. So excited because like that is someone who has stories for days. You want to talk about some lore.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

Yeah, and like that's the type of person I want writing a book.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:51

Yes, yes. Some people write a book. I know. I'm like, really, what do you have to say that hasn't been said before?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

How is the selling?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:57

She is Trisha. She is still writing original sentences. Exactly. She is saying some shit that's never been said before, never even thought about before.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

Perfect. Like, perfect description of Trisha. Like, I'm so excited to read this book.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:10

Mm-hmm. Honestly, too. It's like I want I want Hats by Abby on the pod, but like I would just be, I would be equally as scared of her as clavicular because they would both stop me mid-sentence and be like, so how's it being fat?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:21

Literally, like it'd be like, so So Are you happy when life? Like Yeah, that was just you're kind of ugly. Why do so, yeah, literally. Okay. So why doesn't your boyfriend bring you gummy bears?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:32

Literally. So no ring? Uh you're you're pushing 30, no ring.

unknown 1:14:37

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:38

Um, also before we I just like keep saying things. Um before we say.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

Thank God.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:47

Thank God. About time.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:49

I've also been like the outrageous woman of it all. Like when it first started, it was mainly like guys pretending to be outrageous women. And I'm like, I love how you're treating it right now, but I'm scared it could be taken. Like to like, you know, like when a boy makes a TikTok and he like puts a rag over his head to show and be like, I'm a woman. Yes. I like hate that, and I didn't want it to become that, and it's not becoming that. And thank God.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:09

Thank God, leave it to the women. Yeah, leave it to the outrageous woman. I think we are outrageous women, and I love that we're getting our flowers. And I love being an outrageous woman.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:18

I know, because we've really we gotta hold it down. There's beauty in it. We gotta hold it down. Yeah, exactly. We're saying what the people want to hear.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:25

Mm-hmm. Because it's always, oh my god, shut up. You're a woman, shut up, shut up, shut up. It's like one thing I'm never gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:30

One thing I'm never gonna do is listen to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:32

Up anyway. Just had to get that off my chest. Yeah, and I'm glad you did. Well, love to love you. Literally, love to love you. Love flop, flop your wings. Flop your wings. Oh my god. Also, before we go, duh, thank you for watching this episode. Thank you literally so much. Like, I can't believe people watch it. It's so insane. It's genuinely so insane to me. And like, oh my god, it really it truly like means the world. Um, also, if you want to help out, because we are shit from a butt, um, download. I'm so bad at like I'm so bad at like promoting.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:03

Download us on Spotify. Like, we're also on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, we're everywhere you can get your podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

Um, and also like really helps us out. Like, if you subscribe if you want. Yeah, subscribe if you want. You don't have to, but you make your own choices. I think we might be making a Patreon soon-ish.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:18

Yes. Oh my god. Well, the girls have been comments, but they want second episodes.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:21

If they want second episodes, they want Patreon. We're trying to do probably both, but it's just gonna take a minute. So I think the next move is Patreon.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:28

Yeah, we actually did just sign with the network too. Yes, but like things are gonna get a little more official, yes, not like changing this, but it's just like we you might get an ad read.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

Yeah, which would be super awesome and is really awesome for everyone.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:39

Like, which will keep this going. Exactly. There you go. Um love you guys so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:45

Yeah, literally, thank you for listening. It's really awesome that people listen to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:49

I know. And hey, I will never complain about taking a picture. Same amen. Love you.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:56

Love you. Bye.