HARRY DANIELS SPILLS HIS SECRETS + WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT | Flopcast ep. 12

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This week on Flopcast (working title), we’re joined by the internet’s most chaotic influencer, Harry Daniels—and nothing is off limits.

We get into EVERYTHING:

singing to celebrities in public (and getting absolutely humbled), the reality of going viral, and why being embarrassing is actually a career strategy. Harry spills behind-the-scenes tea on his wildest encounters, his rise from stan Twitter to LA, and how he’s navigating music, fame, and staying chronically online without losing his mind. 

We also get into:

LA party culture, flop vs. main pop girl discourse, celebrity run-ins, influencer chaos, and the art of not caring what people think

it might be our most chaotic episode yet

Transcript

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All the LA secrets. All of the LA secrets. Who's Zendega really dating?

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Who did I do anal with?

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Actually, less than true less than a shitty latte. Mm-hmm.

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SPEAKER_01 1:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really manipulate the girls.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

I just don't know how to exaggerate how poor we are. Like, guys, because like actually, like, my student loans kick in like in two days.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

No, I'm not kidding. I checked my bank account yesterday and I was like, I'm gonna have a good selling hole.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Like, I'm literally on, do you have gas buddy? No. Talk about gas buddy. Like, they tell me, like, in my area, where's the cheapest gas? I need that. We're gonna give like five dollars at a time. But anyway, if you uh if you love us, if you hate us, if you want more of us, that's you're totally welcome to join. Five buckaroos, baby.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Get it now. Before we okay, enjoy this episode of Harry Dimules. Bye. Well, welcome back to Flavor. I'm like another one.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Y'all kinda hit it.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

No, y'all kinda hit it as a few. Did you really? We rehearse on FaceTime. What if I said different song?

SPEAKER_01 2:40

I could I could pull another one.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

We could be like I'm in a face at my Swedish boy over FaceTime. Who know? Opening up, coming me ahead. Boots, that's my ego boots.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

We just like lost all of our money. Yeah, that's demonetized immediately.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself, hello. Oh my gosh, hi!

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Today we're joined with the Harry Daniels.

SPEAKER_03 3:05

Hello, hello. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

I was on my way here watching the video, the clip of you and John Cena.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Isn't it just so pretty? All the cons.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Okay, I'm sorry. I'm not putting much stuff in my own.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Oh god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

You go up to him, you approach him. Where were you?

SPEAKER_03 3:37

So I work out at this gym, it's called and it's an lovely gym, like a tri training studio. And so, anywho, next to it is this cafe called. And you know, sometimes people will go in there, whatever, right? And so I remember, I think it was in like January, um, Kanye West walked in, or Yay now. And so anyway, um my trainer was like, Yay, is in there, and I was like, Oh, that's crazy. And so I go up and I'm like, Will you film this for me? And he was like, No, and I was like, okay. So I was like, Well, if no one's gonna film it, I might as well just go up and introduce myself. You never know. If you run, I always say if you run into someone once, you probably will run into them again, especially in LA, where it's like everyone who I'm like, I can't believe I ran into this person or something.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

You'll see him five more times.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Or it's like you randomly meet someone for the first time at a party, and then they end up being at the next 10 parties you go to. So I was like, right, and so I was like, all right, great, and so I'll I'll see him again. And so anyway, I go up and trees myself, whatever, and whatever, like that was that. And anyway, I didn't get the video with him, and I was like, it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, man, like that would have been a great video, would have been great content, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

For sure.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

But a month later, John Cena comes in, and I'm still kind of like annoyed with myself because I don't let I'm greedy, I don't like to let opportunities pass me by. I want to take every opportunity that comes my way. And so I was like, well, I let Ye go, so I gotta go do it with uh John Cena now as to make up for it. And so that's kind of how that happened. Like he just like was really where I was sitting at this cafe.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Also, like the song toy sent me to hell. You picked Invisible String.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

Oh god, I was pleased. Well, the thing is I had to ask myself what, and I always do this with a video. If I like, if like I'm like, oh, this person's right in front of me. I always ask myself, sort of, what am I going to do to like target it to a certain audience? Because I am just one with like a Playboy Cardi song to like target the manosphere or whatever. Because like John Cena's their god, and I was like, No.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

The juxtaposition is like a sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

That kind of that's what I think makes it for me. I was like, well, that is kind of who I am as a person, so it felt very authentic to me.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

It was literally like that was another question I had was like, do you have the song pre-planned, or is it just like on site? It has to be like just in the moment, right?

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Yeah, it kind of depends. I mean, sometimes I have a running thing where I'm like, God, if I ever run into this person, I'm so doing this. And so it's like, but other times it's like very much, you know, I'm like, oh, well, this is my chance. That's why at Coachell last year I just kept singing anxiety by Dochi for people. Because I was like, I don't know what the hell to sing for you. And I was like, I think this song's kind of annoying. So I was like, this is gonna be really funny and make it more awkward, which is always the goal.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Yeah, oh my fucking god, the John Cena one. What'd he say? You walk up and he goes, a hello would be nice.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Usually, usually people, usually people introduce themselves to me before they come up to me. Hi, I'm John. And I was like, Oh, hi, I'm Harry. All right, would you like to sing for me now?

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Yes, and so you would go down for what purpose?

SPEAKER_03 6:35

For what purpose? Well, I guess I do it for everyone. I mean, he made a good point for what purpose. And I was like, um, you know what? I guess I do it for everyone. It's kind of my job now. And so he was like, I'm not buying what you're selling. And he kind of ate because now I told I sent that video to my friends like a month before I put it out. And anyway, we for the last like month, we keep saying, We're not buying what they're selling. Like, we think it's the funniest thing ever. And then, oh god, the aftermath of it was like a nightmare.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

No, you're so brave, and like you're so brave too for sharing that with the internet. Like, you just own it, you own it.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

Yeah, well, I was just like, okay, it went bad. Like, are you not entertained?

SPEAKER_01 7:13

As fuck, the video has, I think your clip has like almost a million likes.

SPEAKER_03 7:16

Oh, Jesus, does it really?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Well, I think, I mean, yeah, I just looked at it, it has like 800 something thousand. You're like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

I don't check my like I stopped checking my engagement because in 2024 I was so obsessed with checking my engagement. So, like when things would flop, and like flop is I always say success is so relative. So, like my definition of a flop now would be my definition of like a smash hit when I was starting out. Yeah, and so because of that now, I um I don't really like to check, like I don't read my comments. Like, I like I kind of skim them. I like see what the general consensus is. A lot of time it's like, or I check my DMs and people are like, kill yourself.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

And I'm like, Yeah, that's just like every day. It's like you're chopped, you're ugly, KYS. I'm like, all right, what else?

SPEAKER_03 7:55

I'm just like, all right.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Or I'd be like, you know who you remind me of? Amy Schumer. Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

I think she's funny. Have you ever seen the movie? Hot take training. Well, have you ever seen the movie I feel pretty? No. No, I watched it in like high school. I was like, oh, she kind of ate. I don't, I don't really get the Amy Schumer hate.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Well, she named her child Anal Fissure. Did she really? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

You're lying.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

No, sorry, genital anal fissure.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

Oh, okay. And I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Sorry, let me clarify. She likes steals jokes, which is just like the biggest no now, like in the comedian world.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Okay, everyone says that, but I'm like, how many comedians do you think have like stolen? Or like now they have all these micro comedians who are like, Well, I'm not a comedian, I'm a culture, I'm a cultural commentator now. And they literally and they legit steal all their jokes from freaking like also me. Yeah, literally. Or Instagram reels or a comment they saw.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Exactly. I'll make um like a TikTok post and people be like, I saw that tweet, and I'll be like, I didn't. Yes, I'm sorry that I'm just like a sheep and I have the same thoughts as some people.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

I used to steal tweets all the time when I was starting out. I was doing anything viral. I would I'm like, I wanted, I'm like, I wanted my damn way out. I wanted to my whole point with all the TikToks was I just wanted to do music really bad. And so I was like, but I can get in every room as I needed to as long as I had followers. And so that was the only thing I ever cared about.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

And so like I finally were you like any press is good press. Like, even if like it was all bad shit, you're like, all right, leave it up.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Well, I grew up in the world of stan stuff, and so I always know how to spin a narrative because like if my fave was getting cancelled, I would always just spin it. Where I remember I would literally just make up like fake news about my fave to like get them like positive press. Oh my god, have you ever seen the thing where it's like Selena Goma's activism thread? Yeah, no, but tell no, you're my kind of chronic line.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

She took a picture with a van. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

It's like there's this thing where it's like everyone's getting canceled. Get your Selena activism threads ready. And then it was like Selena Goma's activism. Like the next tweet.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Stop. Who are your like main girls that you stand?

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Oh, I literally stand everyone and their mother. I would like pick someone new to stand every month.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Who are your big three? Like Sun, Moon, Rise.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

At this moment in time, I love Ice Spice. Interesting. I love Ice Spice. I think she's one of the most singular and unique entertainers we have at this moment in time. If I want that kind of music, I have to go to that source. I can't sit and go and like listen to a different female rapper. If I want pop New York drill crossover, I have to go to Ice Spice. I think you're like so singular.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

You're converting me right now.

SPEAKER_03 10:20

Like she's kind of a genius. It's like everyone, like I think the reason Big Guy SpongeBob worked is because could anyone else do that? No, it worked because of the messenger. And it was so it was kind of genius. It's like everything that makes her music good. It's almost like very meta. It's super like.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

It's like cat's eye adjacent, but like rap.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

Not at all. Um like they're just saying shit. So then um, I try to think I love Dua Lipa. I think she's like Yeah, she's amazing. I think she's like a great, well-rounded entertainer. She's really good.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Future nostalgia is one of the best albums ever made. It was really clever.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

I completely drank the Kool-Aid on that. I remember when Dua Lipa was a flop ho playing in a basement and I was at the show, and then like I was like 12 years old. It was amazing. Then like I watched her become a superstar and I was like, hmm.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

In Stan Twitter did that because it was the video I was like, yes, girl, give us nothing when she was on stage dancing.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Well, I thought she was giving everything.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

And then no, it changed everything earlier.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

It was crazy. And then who would I say is like number three? I have a lot of respect for I think like the old divas. Like, I mean like Madonna is just like a goat, or like I god, it's so weird saying Rihanna's like an old diva now because she's like nothing. She's just put it in like 10 years, like yeah, like Rihanna, Beyonce, Janet, they're all interchangeable to me. I love them all. I think they're all so great. Like, I think that it's like an amalgam, an amalgamation of all of them. I think that's probably like my big three. But then, like, I guess in terms of like current people, I'm like, and I don't really know if it'd colour pop, but like I love what Ethel Kane is doing.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Oh my god, yeah. She she's up there for me. She's like top three. And she's not three. Are you going to Coachella?

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Okay, wait. Yeah, I'm gonna be barricade at Ethel, shaking the bar, chewing on it.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

So every Coachella, I go to five sets max because I'm so busy getting content the whole time. Because like Coachella's a work event for me.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

Like Coachella quite literally is like a fucking tax write-off because I need it to work.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

And everyone's there, right?

SPEAKER_03 12:11

No, exactly. Yeah, every weird niche influencer. Right, but I kind of love the weird niche influencers, those are my favorite people. I'm almost, but like my definition of weird niche influencer is not the definition of like everyone else's like weird niche influencer. They've been like, oh my god, I can't believe you saying to Jake Shane, and then like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Like one of the biggest influencers out there.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Yeah, I'm like, that's so that's actually not like any.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

He's hosting carpets.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

Yeah, they're like Caleb Heron, that's crazy. He had an HBS damage special.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Legit, but I'm like, oh bitch, whoa, Vicky is there. That's my kind of yeah, her revival is kind of a niche.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

She's well, yeah, she was for a minute, but she's like, well, she's kind of coming back because of this whole thing. Whole revival going on.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

Thank God.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Oh my god, so many questions. Like, they keep like going in my head. Literally, can we talk about the whoa Vicky clavicular stream that you were somehow involved in?

SPEAKER_03 13:00

Yeah, so it was supposed to be me and Clav.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Oh, Clav.

SPEAKER_03 13:04

It was supposed to be just me and Clav. Name basis. Right. Well, that's how he's referred to. Oh, period.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

Sorry, I'm I'm going government. Yeah, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 13:11

And so it's me and Clav. And anyway, I am always like, so what origin so originally it was supposed to be like me, Clav, and like neon, and then I something had happened. Clav had been out like really late the night before or something, and they were like, we don't know if this is gonna happen. And I was like, Well, I flew to Miami to do this fucking stream. So, like, no, like on my own dime, this is happening. Yeah, so I am like, God, the only thing that can make a really chaotic situation more chaotic is if you bring Wo Vicky into it. You don't know what she's gonna do, you don't know what she's gonna say, you don't know how she's gonna react, you just know she's there for vibes, and she's gonna be a great addition.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

And she's bringing the vibes every time.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

Yeah, she's dealing with the flash.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

And so I said, Yeah, I'm I'm like, well, is it cool if I bring Woe Vicky? And they were like, absolutely. And so then, like, the rest was history.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Wait, so you and you brought Wo Vicky into the mix.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

So the first time they met was with you because of you.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Yeah, it was on that stream.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

This is like breaking news. Wait, wait, wait. Was the first time you met the stream where like they're kind of like talking and you start singing, and he goes, Hey, shut up, and you go, I'm singing.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

So, what originally was supposed to happen is so I was sitting in like his rental, his lobby, whatever, his foyer, whatever you want to call it, right? And we're sitting there waiting for Vicky. Vicky comes, and like in like the off channel, like I happen to run into him while he's walking through the hall. It was really weird because like he never walks through this hall, but I was like, whatever. Anyway, so I run into him and it's like, hi, nice to meet you, whatever. And so I think he knew something. I think he knew he was being sung to. I don't think he knew who I was. I think that's completely fine. But anyway, so Vicky comes, and um, the original plan is like, all right, Clav's gonna sit on the couch, and me and Vicky are gonna give him a concert. Like, you know, like when you have a sleepover with your friends, and you're trying to convince your trying to have a sleepover with your friends.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

It's always at the cousin, like five, six, seven, eight, like, right, and so it's kind of gonna be like that.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

And then so we go up there, and Clav is like, Oh, nice to meet you. Like, he wants to talk first, like introduce himself, like have a conversation. Uh-huh. And so we're talking, he's like, Do you want to go outside? And I was like, Okay. And so we go outside and we're sitting in this like fire pit area kind of thing, and like on the couches. Uh-huh. And that's when I start singing beautiful because like we're talking for like 20-30 minutes, and then I'm like, Oh, okay. Well, let me just start, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yeah, like it's getting to a point.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

And then I just kind of keep going for like two hours on and off.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

So good. It's so good. Like, what is he like? Like, when the camera's not on, is he the same person? Or he has high cortisol? Yeah. No, please. Is his cortisol spiked?

SPEAKER_03 15:43

So his cortisol spikes when like he isn't in like control of a situation, which I think is like fair. I think you could say that for a lot of people. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I think he was like honestly pretty normal. Like, I think like his whole thing is like looks maxing. And I don't even think, I don't know, maybe it's because I'm like my brain has been fried from social media, but I'm like, a lot of you bitches are his whole thing is like looks maxing.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Oh, yeah. I do it just on accident.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Like, I'm putting on makeup, I'm trying to like look better.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

Well, it's like Cassie was looks maxing in euphoria when she spent like she woke up at like four in the morning. True.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

We've been looks maxing. Exactly. I'm like, girls have looks maxed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

Well, even in LA too, it's like the men who are like the men with eating disorders who go to the gym. And then they've been on it. They're all taking steroids. Right. And so I'm like, all right. And like, I think he just like capitalized present. No, I think he just presented it in a way to us that was like shocking. And just like memeed it.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

He like memeed the whole thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Like looks max looks maxing culture or like whatever. Yeah. But we, so it's not like a bit. Like if the camera's not rolling, is he like still talking like that?

SPEAKER_03 16:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Oh, okay. So that's him. Do you think he's autistic?

SPEAKER_03 16:44

Yeah. I mean, he's confirmed autistic. It came out in the article. Really? Period.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

I mean, he has a hyperfixation with like looks maxing. Hello? Yeah. No, he's like autistic.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Yeah, that's they um, I think they put like a whole press release about it.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

Season five love on the spectrum, him and Well Vicky.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

Whoa. Gag order.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Keen.

SPEAKER_03 17:03

I would watch it. I'd watch anything, those two real.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

Oh my god. And Well Vicky, obviously, she's like the same. Like she's her through and through.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

Well Vicky is like a special case, as in like Vicky is very singular. I was actually thinking about this last night. I took it I I took an edible. Sorry, Vicki. And anyway, um, I um I was just sitting and I was thinking, and I was like, you know, she kind of reminds me of like Kim Kardashian in the sense that she's like a very natural entertainer. And like Clav stream is almost like her keeping up with the Kardashians, if you think about it.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

I'm thinking I'm getting there.

SPEAKER_03 17:36

Like, do you know what I mean? It's kind of like right, right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, like I'm kind of like, well, if you think about it, she's this like natural-born entertainer. She's been like doing this for 10 years and she hasn't fallen off once. Like, bad baby has come in waves, and like Lil Tay is like completely. Well, Vicky is still here. And the thing about Wo Vicky's controversies and antics, like, they're genuinely shocking. It's not like contrived. True, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

It's the Christianity of it all. It's the like when I have 10 minutes of your time before I do this.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

When Vicky kind of does like a huge crazy rebrand, it's like it's like not like contrived influencer drama. It's like, no, it's genuinely shocking. Like Woe Vicky being like fake kidnapped in Africa was like, that's a shockwave.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

So the other thing. Yeah, like I remember where I was. Like low vehicular, like that was a virtual reset. Oh, yeah, no, it's insane.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

Because like now you have all this like fake contrived influencer drama that kind of goes away, but like, you know, hers like stays, like remains a part of her life. Do you ship them?

SPEAKER_02 18:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

I think they're I think if they're happy, they should like I think everyone should be with someone who makes them happy.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Do you think their vibes matched?

SPEAKER_03 18:40

No, and I think that's why it works.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Okay, I have a lot I think it's because like a lot of the girls that he surrounds himself with are kind of like down to just you know hook up and like do whatever. But she's like, no, I'm not doing that. Like a lamb. Yeah, a lamb, I'm off limits. And I think he's kind of like, ooh, it's hard to get a piece. Yeah, it's playing hard to get.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Like, right? I feel like there might be like a little air of that where he's like into her because she's not she's not giving up that cookie. But you did say good pussy will make a man do anything.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

Good pussy will make a woo. I think like the possibility of like the wovicky, the wovicie cookie is like so taintalizing for him.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

She's like dangling the carrot.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

The carrot snatch.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Well, she is the carrot.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

True. Right. She's the cookie.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

It's like you have to, it's like, what was the fairy tale where like the suitor has to like go be like if he wants to like date the princess or whatever, he has to like pull the sword out or something, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Sword stone something. Yeah. I don't know. The right guy can pull it out. Yeah. Oh, the right guy can open it up. Is there no time?

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Like, I think like I like I think like the right man will like bend to Vicky's will. That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

And I'm like, I'm watching it unravel in real time. She's doing that with clavicular.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

She's like, like he's on Vicky's time. Yeah. Are they both?

SPEAKER_01 19:59

She's wearing the pants.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Exactly. It's good. Are they both based in Miami?

SPEAKER_03 20:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Wow. So it's not even like an LDR sort of situation. Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

No, I think that's what makes it.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Like perfect.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Wait, where are you from?

SPEAKER_03 20:11

I'm from New York State.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Do you still live there?

SPEAKER_03 20:13

No, I live here in LA now.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Oh, what?

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Yeah, I came here because I was I wanted to do music. And my whole thing with that was I was like, all the producers are out here. I write everything myself. Thank you. No need, no need for a co-writer. Wait. But anyway, I um I was just like, if I want to finish this project and like move on to the next phase of like not only my career, but like my life and like actually achieve my goals. I have to like uproot my life and do this and finish this. I finished the EP like literally like last week.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

No fucking way. Wait, so when are you putting it out?

SPEAKER_03 20:44

I want to put it out in like June. I think I want to start the rollout for it. But the thing is, like, I I just like I have to sit there and I have to like do like technically like not final touches because at this point I've done all my part. Like I sat there, I recorded the vocals, I wrote the songs, we finished the production, blah blah. I'd just sit there and like do all the like boring like mixing and blah blah blah stuff.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

So you do all that too, or do you like work with a producer and you're telling him like what to do? Or the or her, yeah, or them.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

I predict I produce, I co-produce everything because I can start a song, but I can't finish it. Like I like I have like my limitations as a producer, and so I need someone to like take it out of the box for me, and then my friend Kayla mixes everything, and so she's like goaded, and then um I think that's gonna be Ryan's probably gonna end up like mastering it, and then I just have to put it out, and then I also have to like see if anyone wants to buy it because you have to pay all your collaborators, right? Like I'm not stiffing anyone of a check. So yeah, yeah, I have to like see if anyone's gonna flip the bill for me. That's like a whole that's a whole winner record label, they fit the bill.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Uh huh. Do you have a title? Do you not want to say it?

SPEAKER_03 21:44

I can't I don't want to say it. Okay, but you have one. I have one. Okay, amazing.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

Oh my god, you're gonna have to like tell us off camera. Like, can you give us one letter?

SPEAKER_03 21:50

Oh, I'll literally just I'll just play you the project. Okay. I'll send you guys a link. I'll just send you the link.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

You can just do like a Taylor stuff like Easter egg. Just starting to do it. Start the secret session.

SPEAKER_02 21:59

Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

The secret session.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

We're the secret session.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

The girl who stole soap from the secret session. Did you hear about that?

SPEAKER_02 22:05

No.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

People would like to steal board games and stuff. Oh my god. I would steal some crazy stuff. I mean, you are a T Swift fan for that.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

Yeah, like damn. But again, she should never invite me to one of those. Like, I would make it everyone's problem. I'd faint, vomit, everything.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

I want to go to dinner. People are always like, who would you want to go to dinner with? Like, you would go to dinner with anyone, dead or alive. I'm like, maybe like Taylor Swift.

unknown 22:25

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Just pick her brain. Get all the tea.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Well, you have to have her on Truth Serum.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

Well, exactly. Because here's the thing. I need to get call me Jennifer Lawrence. Like, I need to know what happened between her and Carly Closs.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

Oh, I think that's like the most boring tea ever. Okay, I don't even.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Are you like not a Galer believer?

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Or do you like believe it so much that you're like, this is old news?

SPEAKER_03 22:44

No, that's just not what happened.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

Wait.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Bruh. Give your side. What's your take?

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Well, someone had said that like Carly Closs was like apparently just feeding, and this is all alleged. Someone basically just said she was like, what? Fucking feeding information to Scooter Braun.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Well, yeah, that's something a crazy ex-girlfriend would do. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

They were still friends at the time. That's why they fell out.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Well, yeah, that's why like let me have this gay storyline. Right. Give us a.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

I mean, I I think it's like the lyrics in its time to go is like when the words of a sister come back to the city. Like a whisper and prove that she's prove that she's not. No, that's like what I think was alluding to. No, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

But I still think they probably hooked up. There was like something a little gay. There was something a little fake and gay. Yeah, something fake and gay.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

No, no, no. I have thoughts on this, but I mean, like, ugh, there's nothing worse than people I think she's like Do you not believe a gay woman could be that talented and powerful? No, it's more of just like I don't want to sit here and be like Taylor Swift is or isn't gay. Because like I remember when I was, I guess, figuring it out, someone from Twitter and I got in an argument, and so they called my house and just outed me to my parents.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

I'm sorry. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

No, it's fine. And they tried to get me to kill myself, it didn't work.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

You made it through.

SPEAKER_03 23:53

Well, yeah, but that's the whole thing. I'm like, oh, I don't want to speculate on this because I like don't really like I don't know her. And like that's actually by like I literally don't know her. Like, for all I know, it's like her and Travis Kelsey are secretly like each other's beards. Right. Or like they're really, they really are madly in love. I don't know them at all.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

And so it's like you know, that's also the beauty of it is like I don't know them, so I can say anything I want. And I don't know. No, exactly. Yeah, they are fictional characters.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

I feel that.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

You know, and so like that's what makes it so.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Well, I always say like a lot of entertainers are like door maths for people's productions.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Exactly. That's what Taylor Swift is for me. Hello, so I love her. Pushing the Yuri narrative. Why does it exactly?

SPEAKER_03 24:26

I had a friend who said that like people took their parents' divorce trauma all out on Ariana Grande. True. And he was so right. That's all everyone did. I don't even think people cared. I think they were just like, my parents divorced and I'm mad about it. Yeah. And then it was like that.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Because they can relate. Oh my god. We saw Joan Grande and Jones on Third. I like wanted to ask. Changed our lives. Almost pulled up a chair and I was like, so tell me everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

I ran into Frankie Grande at a cafe. I love Frankie Grande. I love Frankie Grande. Stop. Where?

SPEAKER_01 24:52

We ho.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

And like, no.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

I saw him at on like Rocco. Literally.

SPEAKER_03 24:57

It was like this cafe in Beverly Hills. I it was like, okay, I have this thing where, and this is especially when I kind of like really came out here. I absolutely love Gwyneth Paltro. I think Gwyneth Paltrow is a genius. You asked me my big three pop girls.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

She's not a pop girl, but she's but she's your top stand.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

Like I love Gwyneth Paltrow. I don't even care about like anything. I just like love Gwyneth Paltro as a person. And so Gwyneth Paltrow has the goop list. And the goop list, they have all these different restaurant recommendations. And so whenever I'm in a new city and I want to like find a restaurant, I typically check, well, where is Gwyneth recommending? And so I because the thing about Gwyneth is Gwyneth is a very rich, retired lady, and she's like literally the definition of like a wasp. But like that means Gwyneth has nothing but time. So you know these are gonna be crazy recommendations. She had nothing but time to filter and comb through these, and she has the best staff or whatever the hell, or like people who she sees fit to do the goop branding. Sure. And so it I was going to try everywhere that was like goop approved, basically. And so I'm at this cafe, I cannot think of what it's called, but it was in Beverly Hills. And so I'm like, I saw Frankie Grande there, and I'd already sang to Frankie Grande like two years prior. And so I was like Jesus when I saw Frankie Grande, and like he was lovely.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Well, I was just watching that video of him talking to Sean Mendes where he goes, Sean.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Sean Stan Twitter.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Bring it back to Stan Twitter. Sure. Like, because I have the interaction with you and the Zara Larson, like I really did Stan Zara Larson. Yeah, and back then it was a drag. What did he say to you?

SPEAKER_03 26:21

He was like, You literally stand up. Stan Zara Larsen Larson. You go, okay, and well, it was like she was kind of a flop, but she like wasn't a flop. It was like a weird thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

She was like still in the asylum a little.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

No, okay. Here's my whole thing about the Kia Asylum, right? Like, would you say Ethel Kane is in the Kia Asylum? No.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

No.

SPEAKER_03 26:40

Right, but like if BB Rexa was doing Ethel Kane numbers, she would be in the Kia Asylum. So it's all like it's like what I was saying earlier. It's relative. Success is relative. And so my whole thing is was Zara Larson in the Kia Asylum? Sort of kind of. Like, here's the thing people don't realize about Zara Larson at that moment in time, like when that fight happened so good. It was like one of the most streamed albums ever on Spotify. And like she had like multiple like never forget you with M and E K was like a top 15. Like she had like I think like the key the real Kia asylum dumb happened, I want to say like the year after. Because the thing is, like, she kind of had like a commercial streak going for her. Like Lush Life, like we Lush Life was a hit prior. Like in 2016, it wasn't Symphony, like was a hit. I would like, and that might be a reach, but like people know that song or like so good. Kind of people know that one, kind of. Or like never forget she was a hit. Like she had hits.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Yeah, she was like, she was keeping, she had a paycheck, she had like a steady income.

SPEAKER_03 27:39

Yeah, like ain't my fault. Like she had hits.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Yeah, but it's kind of like the Calvin Harris of it all. Like, he's in the Kia Asylum, even though, like, and I think he kind of went to the Kia Asylum as well. No, I disagree. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Well, and then well, girl Calvin Har Calvin Harris's$25 million estate.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Yeah, but like he's still Kia'd.

SPEAKER_03 27:55

I don't think he's Kia'd at all because when Calvin Harris plays in like a bitha or whatever the fuck, like people go.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Yeah, but Europeans are kind of they're like a little behind. Yeah, but if you ask every American, like if you ask Americans, like impact they're literally gonna be like, kill yourself, bitch, like you just lost a fan.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

If you ask Americans to name like five DJs, like it's like John Summit.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Like majority small out.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

Well, majority of people are probably gonna come back with like Calvin Harris when you're like name a DJ. And so I think his success is relative. Like Calvin Harris still can kind of put out like a hit. Like, you know what I mean? That Ellie Golden collab randomly, like three years ago, was like kind of a hit for him. Like you got a Grammy nom for it.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Yeah, but they're both Kia'd. Yeah, she's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

I think like Akiya is like a real flop hoe.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Really? Who do you think's next out the asylum?

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Who do I think is next out the asylum?

SPEAKER_01 28:39

I mean, like who's like next to escape?

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Slater just did 25k and her. Oh, true.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Okay, yeah. You're right. It's relevant. That's true. It's relevant.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Because to me, she's so not in the asylum anymore, as of like a few weeks ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Well, Slater got out of the asylum technically this week, but Slater doing 25K is like, all right, we'll put you on a supervised walk. But you know, if fucking um, like if Olivia Rodrigo did 25k, we'd be like, oh, bitch you're like bitcher and Al Kia Trash.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

And we're gonna like throw you food from like exactly. And so it's so relative.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Like that's the thing. It's like Charlie leaving the asylum. It's like well, it's Charlie's first week sale. Like Charlie's first week sales isn't even matching like a Tate McCrae first week, but everyone's like people are like, well, Tate's still in the Kia asylum.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Well, because it's kind of like the social relevancy of it all more than like streams. It's like the who is the audience.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

Well, right. And I but the thing is also if you go to the Midwest and you ask a bunch of white girls, like, who do you love? They're like Tate McCrae, Megan Moroney, uh.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

I'm like, love key same queens. Like it's so relative.

SPEAKER_03 29:43

Like, I'm trying to think like who's someone, like, I don't know, but I think you're better off giving me a list of names and I'll tell you Kia Asylum or not Kia Asylum.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Okay. Wait, oh my god, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Like, I because I think for me, I'm like, well, there's a case for everyone. Like, I wouldn't put Calvin Harris in the Kia Asylum.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Because I'm just like, nah, Calvin Harris has like at this point, I would say he's more like a legacy act. Because like you could name Calvin Harris songs. Like, can you name five BB Rexa songs? And this is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

No, absolutely not. I don't I couldn't even name one. I'm being so dead ass.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

And I love BB Rexa. I love BB Rexa. Really?

SPEAKER_01 30:11

BB Rexa. You just love.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

Well, I'm like, well, I'm a hater. Like, I'm an equal opportunist hater. But like I give credit where credit is really B Rexa Small Doses, great song. BB Rexa, That's It with Gucci Main and Two Chains, great song. BB Rexa Take Me Home, great song. BB Rexa, I'm a mess. I feel her. BB Rexa, I'm not even like, and that's the thing about like when I stand Zara Larson in that video. I'm kind of a staunch defender of pop because I think there's a hierarchy. I think there's a tier. And I think people need to learn to respect that it's all not black and white. I think you can't have your A-list stars without your B-list stars, and you can't have your B-list stars without your C-list stars. Because the thing is, if everyone was a star, then no one would be a star. Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Yeah, that's kind of what we're falling into. I think Kesha's soon to come out of the Kia Asylum because she's going on tour with Erica Jane.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Wait. Oh my god, what a combo.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

What a duo. That is like a duo.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Right? Yeah, that could like really save the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Well the thing is Kesha's now independent, so like the rules completely change.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Like the thing is, like, when you're independent, it's like you fight you foot the bill of everything. But it's like if you're with a big label, then the label is footing the bill of everything. So if it's like if you put 10,000, if you put$10,000 into something and you know, you make a return on investment as an independent artist, it goes like 100% of it into your pocket for the most part. Right. Versus if you're like, you know, you have all this money being put into you and you take home like 20%. Cause like that's why like 95 to 99% of artists on a major label are like in debt to the labor. Yeah. So it's like she doesn't, so it's like her success now, it's like she's on a different playing field than like someone like a BB. Well, BB are just like left her label, but like still you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Like who's like like who's like a like um like a Halsey? Like I pulled something up.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

Yeah, oh god, I have thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Weight share now. What's your Halsey? What's your Halsey thing?

SPEAKER_03 31:55

So I love Halsey. I bought that album, the one that like locked her in the asylum for I bought the last two albums. I like bought hard copies of like the last two albums. I still buy music, I buy physical music, I like Halsey, I love Halsey. I went to the tour two years ago. I didn't get to go to the last tour because I wasn't in town, but I would have gone. I genuinely like Halsey. I really like Halsey.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

I like don't even know her last album.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

She is like a fantastic catalog, she's an incredible artist. But basically, she's like, well, the label won't let me put out like my new album. And it's like yeah, because like I'm like, what was the last one really expensive to make? Because they don't want to give you the same budget if it was if expensive they didn't get a return on investment.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

It's the same thing, like it's in business, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:34

And like that's not even shade towards Halsey. It's just like, all right, then like calm down on your budget or like whatever, just like finance everything yourself.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Yeah, I saw her at the Aeros Tour.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

Oh wait, really?

SPEAKER_02 32:43

In the in the tent. Yeah, she was really nice. She was actually really like taking pictures with fans. Like, I think I might have even gotten a picture of the show. Yeah. Um, yeah, but she was actually very sweet. There were a few people, like, I went to the Aeros Tour twice, and there were a few people who would be like, Yeah, like photo Sunny Line. You're in the tent at the Aeros Tour. Like, can we get for real?

SPEAKER_03 33:04

You know, anytime anyone ever asks me for a photo or anything, I always do it. My whole job is to shove a camera on people's face. Yeah, that's like beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

We had like a whole conversation about this like a week or two ago, and I was like, that's like the whole thing. Like, you're being famous, you're sacrificing your peace. Like, it's just it comes with the gang.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Well, yes, and no, like, I think some people, it's like, all right, they didn't ask to be famous, but like I will say, if you want to continue to be famous, like then you're opting to continue to be famous. Like, someone like Alex from Target didn't ask for that. True. But Alex from Target asked for it to go away.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

Yeah. And so it went away. Yeah, it's different when it's like the public is like pushing it on you versus like you're putting yourself out there and you're like opening the door yourself. Yeah. You know. Wait, okay, so do you think Halsey's in the asylum as like a stan?

SPEAKER_03 33:45

Okay, as someone who really likes Halsey, Halsey basically gave this whole big interview being like, well, I don't want to be a pop star anymore. I want to be like an edgy alternative artist who like.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

So now she like wants to like go indie.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

So now she like kind of wants to be like an indie artist. And so I'm gonna say by pop standards, yes, Halsey is like in the asylum now where it's like you had your it's like there's this movie Babylon where it's like, have you guys seen Babylon?

SPEAKER_02 34:06

I have seen the trailer. Raya. Beautiful. Me nodding.

SPEAKER_03 34:09

I'm like, so Margot Robbie plays this girl, Nellie LeRoy, and she becomes this huge overnight sensation in the silent film era. And then when they move to talkies, which is like when the movies start having sound and you have to start talking, she kind of falls off a little bit. And so she goes from being like the biggest thing, which was Halsey. Like Manic had like opened with like 230,000 sales or something. Like, without me, is like a like she has like three diamond hits or something ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Halsey has she ran Tumblr. Oh, yeah, Badlands. No, she did not.

SPEAKER_03 34:35

And the reason I say that, Halsey, the Lana Del Rey ran Tumblr. Oh, as hell.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Marina and the diamonds were true, true, true, true. In the 1975, I was like slitting my wrist listening to like. Well, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

I think Halsey is from the second wind of Tumblr. I think like the OG Tumblr Queens, I would say, is I'd say the last of that would probably be like Lord.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

And like that's not shade towards Halsey at all. Like I like Halsey again. Like, I think like that whole generation of Melbourne.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Oh my god, but no, it was so like everything is blue. Like, right.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

And I'm saying, like, I think that whole generation of like Melanie Martinez, um, Halsey, 21 Pilot Choice Savant, no, you were second wind.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

It was kind of early Instagram too. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Like, no, no, no, no, no. Like Tumblr, like, that's Sky Ferreira, that's Lana Del Rey, that's Marina, that's 1925. Tyler Creator, even. And so that's kind of my hot take on it. But my whole thing on Halsey is like, well, by pop standards, yes, she is in the Kia Asylum. But she has like a loyal fan base. It's like kind of weird. Like, I think she opened with like 90,000 units of the last album.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Do you think she could like sell out the Kia Forum?

SPEAKER_03 35:39

I mean, girl, some of the people who sell the Kia Forum. Like, I it is the like we could sell out the Kia Forum. Like at this point, I'm like, girl, I mean, some of the people who like sell out the Kia Forum, it's like, alright, and anyone can sell it out clearly now. I mean, like, people just post COVID- They're like just buying it. Post COVID, people just love going to concerts. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

Like people literally just like want community. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Like, oh my god, that like that weird era post-COVID when people would like literally go to like the opening of an envelope was so funny. Yeah. Nowadays when a tour flops, it flops hard. Nowadays when a tour like does well, it's like it does great. I hate Vegas. Anytime I have to spend any time in Vegas, I like I'm honestly I'm right there with you.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

Vegas is really tough. Like Sin City, like, no one should be living in Vegas.

SPEAKER_03 36:16

Like, at least when I go to Miami, and I have similar thoughts about Miami, but whenever I go to Miami, it's pure chaos.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

I've never done anything normal in Miami. Last time I was in fucking Miami was that damn woovicular stream. You know what I mean? Like it wasn't with Vegas, it's like you go and you're like, oh, whoop do you do? Because it's like one big Times Square.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Oh my god, it's so I feel like I leave from Miami or like I leave from Vegas missing like a tit and like my eyeballs falling out. It's like I'm holding my eye, like holding my tit. Like it's just so bad.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Right, but you don't regret it. It's like control, it's like uncontrolled chaos where Vegas is controlled chaos.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

I I drove through Vegas when I was like 17 on this really crazy road trip with my friends, which is like whatever, and during COVID. And we stayed in this Airbnb that was like just a room in this guy's house. And so we'd have to like take our shoes off, like to walk through the house. Like take yeah, take your shoes off. Um, like, do you want the house toward down? Like, we'd have to go through the kitchen. And then the AC was set to 75 and we couldn't turn it down. It was like 115. You had it like locked. Yeah, it was like during the summer, and it was literally like I have to kill myself right now. I'm right here. I was like sleeping with like a cold um towel over me.

SPEAKER_03 37:18

As two women, are women always cold? No.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

No, I'm always boiling.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

I run like a furnace.

SPEAKER_03 37:24

My sister's always really like cold or really hot. And so anyway, I I have like nasal sensitivity or whatever. And so anyway, in my apartment, I like couldn't figure out when my nose kept bleeding. It was so dry and blah blah blah. She had it set to 75 degrees.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

Wait, so your nose is bleeding because it's so hot. Yeah, do you want it?

SPEAKER_03 37:42

It was so hot. It was like so like dry and humid in my own damn apartment. I couldn't figure out why. I was like, oh, because she fucking set the damn thermostat so high.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

I think I have like bad circulation. Like, fingers. My fingers. I have bad circulations. My toes are always like crazy.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

It's called rhinoids.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

I don't know about it.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

It's called rhinoids. Yeah, it's like a real thing.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Rhenoids, rhinoids, rhinoids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:04

Yeah, I have them really bad at my toes. It's like the blood doesn't properly circulate. So it's very common issue.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

I have to wear compression socks because when I stand up, I'll black out. Really? Oh bad. Like I'll have to like brace myself. Yeah. No, I grip the walls. Yeah, I grip the wall. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

Oh, I have this thing where basically, like, with my music, like for whatever reason, I have this dream of playing the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Like make it happen. Like some people dream of performing at the Grammys and like winning Grammys and blah blah blah. Right. And like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, sure, all that stuff, great. Of course, like I want it. But like my thing is like, whoa. But anyway, I have this thing where I really, really, really want to like play at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. But the thing is, that's when New York starts getting pretty cold.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:49

Growing up there. And so I would go, I went to the parade once when I grew up. And anyway, so whenever I'm like really cold or I'm in a lot of physical pain, I'm like, you know who else is in a lot of physical pain? The fans waiting for you at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. True, that's called empathy. So it's like you need to suffer so that way, like, you're not alone and you're suffering. And everyone's like, what? And everyone I told this to is like, what? No, thank you for saying that. But I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. It's like very important to me. I'm like, I'm like, you must suffer through the pain because, like, that way you can do the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

Grab your little hand warmers, put them in your shoes.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

I went to the parade like three years ago.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Did you have fun?

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Um, basically, my mom's friend's son was performing as like um I think he plays the saxophone. So he was in one of the bands. We were stationed in the silent area of the Macy's Day parade. Um Thanksgiving Day.

SPEAKER_03 39:44

Dallas, I hate noise.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

Um honestly, let me tell you right now, it was just weird because like all you could see Shania Twain on a on a float, like waving at you, but like she's not singing because four blocks down that way, that's where they were filming for the singing. And so you needed to be quiet four four blocks away, right? And so like we didn't hear him play the saxophone, we just saw him walk quietly with the saxophone. Okay. And it was like this is my mom's friend's son. Now we like follow each other on Instagram, and it's like Nick, you go king. Like, now he plays the saxophone in New York, so it's kind of like you know, like full circle moment. But it was the happy stay of my mother's life. Probably over her wedding and my birth. So do you like your birthday? I think I cry every year on my birthday.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

So I like I like I don't really care. Like, I you don't even think it's about my birthday, right? This year I like didn't really have a party for my birthday because I was just like the whole thing. How old are you? I'm 22. My whole thing. My whole thing was okay. Oh, period. When's your birthday? August 27th. Oh, okay. I'm January 26th. Oh, okay. So my whole thing. I'm older. Yeah, you are. Closer to the grave.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

Well, women live longer.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

Oh. We'll see about that.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Anyway, let's continue.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Not if I can help it.

SPEAKER_03 41:02

Right. Yeah, so my whole thing with birthdays, and especially in LA, is like I don't like the idea of throwing a party and then people are using my birthday party as an excuse to get ahead.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

Like a function. Oh, I thought you meant for like the open bar.

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Well, LA is all about social climbing.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

That's what I do. Every time like I get invited to a party, I'm like, check the partiful, see who's going, and then is it open bar or not?

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Right. But I'm like, okay, I'm like, I don't want people to take my birthday as an excuse to like do a business deal.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

You want to have a start filming videos going, boots, that's not ego boots, like using your bit against you.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Well, it's kind of just like someone who I haven't heard of, and like literally like someone who I haven't spoken to in six months, but you invite everyone you know, and then it's like, happy birthday to my best friends who you could post on your story that you went to someone's birthday party.

SPEAKER_02 41:42

I never post about someone else's birthday because I'm like I really don't either.

SPEAKER_03 41:44

No, no, I never post for birthdays.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

No, yes, I do think that. When people post a picture of someone with their birthday cake blowing out the candles, don't take a picture of that. Like, that's not your birthday. It's in the moment, yeah. You don't get someone to swipe up on your story and be like, tell them happy birthday weren't it just pissed me off.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

It's like, oh, I really needed to know where you were. And I think people feel excluded. How many times have you seen a party and you've gotten FOMO because you weren't invited on someone's story?

SPEAKER_01 42:06

I don't I don't get FOMO. Like, I really don't invite it.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

I think I'm working on like not getting FOMO as much. Yeah. Simply because I'm like, oh, I really don't care. Like I'm like, you're getting FOMO of people you already know. And you know what? You already know them.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

It's just like every time I go out, I'm like, it's never as good as you anticipate it being. Ever. So it's like if I ever do have like a little FOMO, I'm like, oh wait, they're posting this picture. Like it looks so fun, but I promise it's not. Like if I were there right now, I'd be complaining. That's not true.

SPEAKER_03 42:31

If you have sex on a night out, it's always worth it.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

It's always a great night. No, half the time I wake up and I'm like, what the literal fuck did I do? It's like I need to like order Chick-fil-A and like regret everything and then like pop a boric acid up. I just always want to kill myself after like I drank or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

I used to do that. I remember one time I got really fucking drunk, and it was literally at a Charlie party at X, and I literally Like that's worth it. Well, I got really drunk, but the thing is like everyone, it's LA, so everyone's like, Bitch, I was drunker than everyone. Apparently, I pulled my dick out and started peeing in the middle of the street. I was like literally, I'm like, I'm like a real freak, bitch. I don't give a fuck about your stupid little I'm still brat. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

No, that's brat. That is brat behavior. Like piss on the street. Let's see it.

SPEAKER_03 43:11

Multiple people, I shoved my tongue down their fucking throat. I was having a ball in that bitch. I was having a ball in that bitch.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

But anyway, this one's for all my mean girls. Right.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

And so I mean the next day, I'm having like terrible like hang anxiety.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

You were having hang suicide.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

No, I don't get hangovers, but I do I.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Have you ever done improv?

SPEAKER_03 43:29

No.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

I know.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

And so anyway, all these people were like the next day, like they reached out to be like, You were so much fun. I loved meeting you. And I was like, oh, period, I ate. And so anyway, I ran into someone like months later and I didn't forgot. I literally pulled my dick out and started peeing in the little street. And someone's like, Oh yeah, you did do that. Like, that's how I remember you. And I was like, Oh, I did do that. And I was like, Oh well, I ate.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

I don't get any anxiety because like I just choose to like not remember what I did the night before. If someone's like, oh my gosh, look at this video from you last night, like, don't show it to me. I don't want to remember. Like, that's not that's none of my business. I don't want to know what the fuck I did last night. I had fun. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

Well, the thing about me is like, even if you like make a fool out of yourself, I'm like, at least they made an impression. Now you're gonna remember me. True.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

And also you're in control of the narrative. Like, you get to choose if you're embarrassed by something or not.

SPEAKER_01 44:12

That's also like euphoria behavior. Like pulling your dick out and like peeing in the middle of the street. That's like something straight out of euphoria. And I think you just have to like.

SPEAKER_03 44:18

I'm like, I'm like, I had to go. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:21

What were you gonna do? Wait for a bathroom? No.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

That's called freedom.

SPEAKER_03 44:23

Right. I was like, I was like, oh, I'm gonna wait and I'm really I'm like so drunk I can hardly stand, and I'm gonna wait in line to get into this club, and then I'm gonna go wait in line for the bathroom.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

No, I have to Charlie was it at tenants? Was it that one?

SPEAKER_03 44:35

Yeah, was it like a honey is at Star Love or something in like 2024? I had so much fun that night.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

I mean, yeah. Yeah, I clearly had a great night. But that's what I'm saying. It's like anxiety doesn't exist like if you just don't believe it.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

Well, anxiety exists for sure. I'm just like learning now that I'm like, I don't really care. Yeah, I just like straight up. No FOMO, no anxiety. Well, now I don't really drink as much anymore because I'm trying to diet. I want to lose 10 pounds. I've already lost two.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

So yeah, calcium diet bars.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Like, I want to lose eight games. I want to lose three pounds. Yeah. You've already lost two.

SPEAKER_03 45:06

I've already lost two, so that means I'm down to eight.

SPEAKER_01 45:08

Wait, wow. What's your regiment?

SPEAKER_03 45:11

No, I'm like, we're like we're like grill.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:14

So it's all about the calorie deficit, and then it's all but like This is the clavicular impact.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Wait.

SPEAKER_03 45:19

Oh my god. The first thing I asked him, I was like, what could I do to like looks max? And he's like, he's like, he's like, you could lean max. And I was already like uh and the thing is like I've been I've been in the gym, and so like you know, I've been gaining like weight because of that. And I'm very bulking. Yeah, and I was like, it's kind of time to like cut back maybe a little bit, and he said that. I was like, oh, he's so right.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

No, I like I think that would like be my first question too. Is it a who?

SPEAKER_03 45:45

A semicircle tattoo on your wrist.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

It's more like a moon to me.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Oh, this. I thought you were talking about like my little knuckle tattoos. No, this is like a little moon. It's just blown the fuck out because I got it when I was 18 in like someone's basement, and then I have these little ones that are insane.

SPEAKER_03 45:57

I was like, Do you try carousel?

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Yeah, semicolon tattoo. But the semicolon, yeah. This is just a little moon.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

I think it just like flopped. I was so pissed. I did one where I'm like, I like got like a temporary semicolon tattoo, and then I was like, I literally was like a-tention. No, I got the temporary selling colon semicolon tattoo, something happened. I'd be like, I'm like, like, I it was like some sort of pop culture event. I can't even remember what it was. And I was like, I'm removing my semicolon tattoo because of this. And I was like, obviously trolling, but it was just like it was like Selena Gomez happened.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Yeah, she has one with the case.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

We all got the 33 reasons why.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

She's so the type to have thank God that television show is made. You're in support.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

Well, she produced it.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

I know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

We got some sleigh music from that. I like her cover of Only You.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

When I was 13 and that show came out, and everyone was like, This is actually a really fucked up show. I was like, actually, guys, like this is like helpful.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

Oh, I like I just saw it and I was like, because she gagged their asses.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Were you guys there for the brooms? Yes. Oh my god, that was the broad season in ever history where I had to close my last time.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

What season was that?

SPEAKER_02 46:59

That was season one, no, like at the end of season one, early season two.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

I didn't know there were more seasons than the other. Well, I remember she in the pool, and then I was like, oh, and then breaking point.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

But I thought that's- I think it's like gone from everywhere. It is. It was like the scene, I think his name was Tyler. He's in the bathroom, like, oh my god. Yes, I love gag order.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

I remember Oh, it's the season two finale.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

I did watch the movie because at this point I was like, I'm too old for this. Because like I think I think I was like, well, she's dead.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Right. She did not come back.

SPEAKER_03 47:28

So why do we walk through?

SPEAKER_02 47:29

After her death. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Because like, why do we keep going? It's such a bad idea for concept for a show.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

It's like we know that there belongs to the main character, and then$13 million.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Yeah, but also like how many seasons even were there?

SPEAKER_03 47:41

Like four's fucking she's dead.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Yeah, right. Bang it up.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

I honestly thought the bathtub scene was really graphic. And I like I thought it was very well acted. I thought that was beautiful. I think that that would have been a great way to end it. I think I think extending it further was just like a cash grab.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

The broom scene was just unnecessary. Like, I literally still remember that physically in my head. Like, literally, I didn't watch season two.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

Okay, yeah, I didn't watch season two because I was like, I'm too old.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Never watch it.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

I'm not kidding. I was sitting there like, don't worry, like, you won't even same.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

Well, I stopped watching Stranger Things after season one. Good. I love movies, but I like I'm like What's your favorite movie? Poor Things.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

Really? Wow.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

That was such a profound and beautiful story. And I think it touches on so much of like what life is about and like being an individual and like making your own decisions, and like having sex and just having fun. Well, that's the thing. It's like if you think about it, like autonomy. Well, yeah, like she had like full autonomy over herself. Everyone wanted to control her, and she said, No, I'm a bad bitch, you can't stop me.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

And then didn't she win the Oscar?

SPEAKER_03 48:37

She sure did. I was like really praying that she would. Yeah, that was really emotional. That like that's the kind of stand more I care about nowadays. I'm like, oh, I really hope she wins this Oscar more of so than like she has a number one hit. Because the thing is like those don't mean anything anymore.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:49

It was like God's.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

What Zara Larson said.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

That was such a strange thing.

SPEAKER_01 48:55

Oh, wait, yeah. Didn't she like dis like she didn't disappear?

SPEAKER_02 48:57

She didn't dis Taylor. She was just like, no one really cares. Like, I try not to look at streams, like whatever. Like, the only people I think who really care about that are like Taylor Swift fans. And it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

No, and this is going to be someone who absolutely loves her. Like, no, she cares. Yeah. There's a whole thing. Everyone cares. Well, there's a song in that album about it. It's like, no, everyone cares.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Well, kind of like how you were saying you were like, I try to like not to like look at my metrics and like look at my numbers. I think everyone does, whether you're like doing social media, whether you're doing music, whether you're an actor, whatever you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Yeah, like I might not look religiously, but I obviously like I have to care. Simply because like I'm not sure if it's your job. It's my job. I'm like, if I fall off, then like the the like the cash like exactly. I have to figure out my shit out.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Yeah. And I think it's the same thing. It's like even like actors, musicians, whatever, like they're looking at their metrics and they're like, I don't know, going back.

SPEAKER_03 49:36

Actors care as much.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Uh totally. Yeah. Think about like Timmy. No, think about like Timothy Chalama. He's like on stage being like, I want to be one of the greats, like, I'm really working hard at the end of the day. Yeah, but the thing is like you don't become.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Yeah, but like you don't, yeah, now because of streaming doesn't matter anymore.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

But like, in a front.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

Yeah, but also you have to consider someone like Kirsten Dunst. I mean, you know, she's saying, like, well, I want to be in a big blockbuster because I want to get paid. But like, I mean, there's so many people who are like, they literally just like they like like doing flot movies because they like doing flop movies.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

Daniel Radcliffe, he got paid out as like a child, and now he just does crazy shit. Yeah, like that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

It's like, eh, I'm like with actors, it's like kind of like that's like the thing about like Ethel Kane. Like Ethel Kane, she's even said it. She's like, Well, I mean, sometimes I have to throw a pop song on there to like pay my bills. Hello, but like, yeah, you know, I like making my weird shit. And like, I think like so many people, like, I don't know, like Boards of Canada and their fucking ambient music album that I like love listening to. Like, no, I doubt Boards of Canada 20 years later. It's like, and what are the recurrent streams like on Spotify? But like, I'm sure like they are for like like there's a lot of money being poured into Zara Larson actively. Yeah, yeah. And that's not like a crazy stream. Even if she doesn't care, like it's someone cares on her behalf.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

Someone like very close to her working with her cares.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Well, that was like Ethel too. She put out the perverts album. I feel like it obviously wasn't like widely received. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 50:43

I received, I thought it was amazing. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

It's like it's it's so for like a niche audience.

SPEAKER_03 50:48

Oh, I'm gonna drop a bombshell piece of information right now. This is the bombshell piece of information, and the reason I bring it up is because you brought up the perverts album by Ethel Kane. So when I work out, I love working out to really all kinds of music. So this day in particular, I was working out to Perverts by Ethel Kane. Love this album, beautiful album, great album. And so this was the day of the John Cena video.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 51:10

So I go, I sing to John Cena, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, right? So I go back into the gym, I'm working out, it's next door, and anyway, I think like I don't know what's like pole drone or something might have been. And anyway, you have to imagine this like very strange noise ambient music is playing. It's just like very, it's like music out of a horror movie. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

It sounds like forks in a blender. Like literally, to like anyone who hasn't wired.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

To anyone who hasn't heard this album, it's like legit rats chewing on metal wires.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

It's like it's like literally the noise of like a chainsaw whirring, it's just like scratched over like of your nightmares.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

And like it's kind of awesome. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:45

And I'm just like, ugh, this is so esoteric. I love this. So I'm listening to this. John Cena walks into the gym, and he, and I'm the only one in there. It's like me and my trainer, and he's like, Can I have a minute of your time? And I go, sure. And so he's like, you know, like I get that this is your job, but we have to be willing consumers of what you're selling. And so, like, you know, you disturbed everyone in that cafe. I was with my wife. Like, I don't appreciate that. Next time you need to like ask people for consent. Like, I'm giving you constructive criticism right now. You have to ask people for consent if you're gonna do this. Because like, we all don't need to be a part of this. And shut the fuck up. I was just like, oh, okay. I was like, well, like, thank you for your thank you for your words. Like, I I mean, like, I've dealt with all kinds of reactions. Some people like it, some people don't like it, you know. I completely get it. I mean, I see where you're coming from, whatever. And it was like, all right, bye, I'm John. I was like, hi, I'm Harry. And then like that was the end of the exchange. But while all this is happening, you just hear Ethel Kane's music in the background.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Like straight out of a horror movie, like John Cena reprimanding you, and it's just like, no, like literally like no but I was like, my trainer was something like very demonic instead of the case.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

Well, my trainer was like, oh my god, like they're in your ass, or like, can you handle it?

SPEAKER_03 53:02

I I can handle it. Really?

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Because I think like if that happened to me like after that fourth wall is broken, like I'd yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:07

It's mere him. Every time it's mirror him. It's mirror him.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Wait, is he your worst encounter? Like, who do you think?

SPEAKER_03 53:13

I guess in theory, that's the one that like went the worst, but I mean this is like he's like he's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

Or have you oh my god, have you sung like encountered Chapel Rhone? She'd like blow your head off.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

Okay, so oh, this is actually. Oh, this is okay, this is way you guys are getting the bombshell exclusive.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Thank God.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

So she's the she's doing she's doing her opening run for the Olivia Rodrigo tour, and someone from the label reaches out and they're like, Hey, would you want to do something with Chapel Rhone? Of course, I she's not big yet. Like, good luck, babe wasn't even released. It was like the Friday it was coming out or something. Okay. And so anyway, I'm like, yeah, like I really see it for her. I'd actually DM'd her the week prior, being like, I'd love to do something with you, blah, blah, blah. Like, so it was just divine timing. So we make it happen and we work together, and she's lovely. We're together for 30 minutes, she's great. I start meeting her friends, we get along great. She's a lovely girl. And then I see her a few months later at like Lollapalooza, and you know, she follows me on Instagram. Like, you know, we talk at Lala, she's very sweet. Throughout all this, she was like, Oh, like everyone's like, call her Kaylee, like whatever, like she's great. Yeah, no, it was like literally like that. So I see her a year and a half later, and like, mind you, I'm like a like at this point, I'm like, well, you know what? Like, Chapeleron's very nice to me. Like, I'm a staunch Chapeleron defender. I'm like, oh, Kaylee, like, it's gonna see you get our Halloween party.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

And I'm like, oh, would you prefer? Because like this is all the this is like when all this random discourse is happening, about like Kaylee and Chapel, like whatever they call her, what what do you call her? And I'm like, you know, like I've never asked, but like you've always been introduced to me as Kaylee. But I'm like, I figure I'll just hear it directly from you. She's like, Chapel is fine. I was like, Oh, I've known you for like two years, got it. Yeah. Okay, whatever. Like just like live audio. I was like, ah, all right. Oh my god. I was like, I was like, well, at this point, whatever. And so anyway, year and a half, whatever, two years, whatever you want to call it. So then anyway, a few weeks later, and this is like so strange, I keep having this. This was a three-week period. It's like what I said earlier. When you run into someone once, you're gonna run into them a bunch. I see her at the Addison Ray Show, and uh, we have all these mutual friends now. So I'm saying hi to my friends because I'm like, all right, like I'm like, I don't think she's like, I just don't think she's like fucking with what I'm doing right now, and like that's whatever. Like fame does like people change, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

Like acting like she's above it, kinda.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

It's just like I think she has Chapel Ron has surpassed the need for Harry Daniels at this point.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

And like Instagram mutual me used to mean something, right?

SPEAKER_03 55:27

Yeah, it's like at this point, it's like alright, it's like whatever, it's like random guy I know. And so we're like, I know through passing. And so she's with my friends though, and like I actually like like hanging out with them, whatever, and I'm like, or like I'd hung out with him a few times, whatever, and I was like, oh hi guys, whatever. I get clipped waving to them, and then her fans are like, bro, he's such a fucking leech and a social climber, and this and that, and I'm not expecting her to go put out some grand fucking statement, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

Right, yeah, defending like black, yeah, black.

SPEAKER_03 55:53

But I sent it to her friends, and I was like, This is so funny, like I'm getting dragged right now, all o well. And like again, she's not responsible for that at all. Like, but like I wasn't even saying hi to her.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

It was a complete like the internet is so nonsensical and like shit just gets clipped randomly, like so out of hand.

SPEAKER_03 56:08

Because I was like, all right, I'm like, well, I'm being talked about.

SPEAKER_01 56:11

That's the thing, yeah. Like all press.

SPEAKER_03 56:13

Yeah, but I was like, whatever. Like in my case, where there's no clear passion for me, like it's and like I say that with like love. It's like no one's like, when you ask someone like who's your favorite influencer, no one on this planet is gonna be like Harry Daniels, because I don't I have no personality outside the gimmick, like let's call it what it is.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

I don't know. I think the gimmick kind of is sort of your personality. Well, right, but you don't go further than that.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

But I'm never saying you're not like talking to camera, like sharing your thoughts and shit.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

Like, I no, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 56:37

Like this is probably the most you'll do. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:39

Well, now I'm like, well, that's why I'm starting the podcast now. Cause I'm like, I'm like, I have to actually like give up have a personality.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

Especially if I can do that for investments.

SPEAKER_03 56:45

Like I yeah, like I'm like, I like I actually have like things I have to do.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

Yeah, are you gonna do like pop culture commentary? Is it gonna be more about like I'm gonna be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03 56:51

That's such a massive point of my like life. For sure. So anyway, basically I'm um I see her, whatever that happens, and then a few weeks later I see at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and lovely event, whatever. She's walking the carpet, she's the last one to walk. And so they have this, they have all these photographers come, and anyway, they have this woman who works there come be like, Chapel's about to walk the carpet, you guys. Be nice, she's gonna blow your head off. And they didn't do that for like anyone. Like Andre 3000 has walked the carpet. Like Andre 3000 is like an industry legend. Like he like he like he's a legend, yeah, yeah. Like they don't do like the literal inductees in the hall.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Like, she's just like, Beyonce walks by, they're like, Okay, guys, Chapel.

SPEAKER_03 57:30

Yeah, and so any good for anyone. I was just like, this is like ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

Yeah, but so yeah, like is that your what's your take on just like her in general doing like with the cobarats and you would like to do it? That's what's up.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

So anyway, so she walks, and I'm like, so she walks, and I'm like, all right, well, let me do my thing because I'm like my I'm there to like sing to people on this carpet. Yeah. So I'm like, Chapel, guys, sing for you, and then like I she just like waves or whatever. Like, no, she giggles and then like she waves. And the thing is, like, you can't see her in the video giggle because like it was like it was like a minute before she even got into my fucking frame. So like she knew I was there. And so she's like, hi, or whatever. And like I didn't even think that was rude.

SPEAKER_02 58:07

Right.

SPEAKER_03 58:08

I didn't care. I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

I was like, I was like, I'm you're like, all right, Kaylee.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

Kidding, kidding.

SPEAKER_03 58:13

I would always like, all right, lady. Like that's a diss. Well, I was literally just like, all right, lady. Like, that's nice, sweetie. And so I keep it pushing, and then like people are like, Oh, like, sorry, didn't go well with her. I'm like, no, it's fine. Like, sometimes like a bad reaction just like people just like like seeing reactions, I think, and like I got my content, so I don't really care. Yeah, and like I think what's so funny about the video is she walks away, and then I'm like, I'm singing the subway, and I'm like, she got away, and then she literally, and so she literally gets away.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Wait, when was this?

SPEAKER_03 58:44

This is like November. Oh, I like turn to the camera at the end, I'm like, oh, she got away. And I thought that was so funny, and that's why I posted. Like, I'm I was like funny. That's fucking funny. Because I was like, it literally plays into the song, and so anyway, I know what the sentiment is around her, and so I make a disclaimer in my capture. I'm like, guys, like it's not that serious. It's like a three-second interaction. Like, don't go and draw, and it causes all this fucking disgrace. Of course, yeah, you can like make it a few. She's getting like dragged, and so anyway, all of the stuff is happening now with this like footballer or whatever, right? The what? The footballer, whatever, like the daughter of the little girl at the uh.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

Oh, okay. Oh, I was like, I love footballers. I was like, hello. I was like, what I missed.

SPEAKER_03 59:28

The little girl, it was a footballer's daughter.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

So she was actually relevant.

SPEAKER_03 59:32

Yeah, well, she was a non-Kia. She didn't go to Kia preschool.

SPEAKER_01 59:35

Right, right. She's Nepoed. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

Well, she thought it was a Kia child going to Kia preschool. Right.

SPEAKER_01 59:40

Yeah, so she like got her gun ready. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:42

Right, but it was a non-Kia going to non-Kia preschool.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

And only if she if she only knew. If she only knew.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

Right. And so anyway, um, I'm like looking, and my friend is like, you know, she just unfollowed you on Instagram throughout all throughout all of this, I caught the unfollow. And I was like, whoop, whoopsie Daisy. All right. I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, well, alright. And so, like, my whole take on the whole thing is like, look, like people, like people are allowed to have whatever boundaries they want. And I don't like really, I don't, I wasn't particularly phased.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:15

I'm not like, no, Chapel Rowan doesn't like me.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

I don't even listen to her music like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

It's also like not personal, clearly.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

Like, yeah, even if it was personal, I wouldn't give a fuck because I'm like, okay, like I don't entertain for Chapel Roan's approval. I entertain to entertain the masses. I'm not like dying for Chapel Roan to be like, I loved your video.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

You did really.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:36

I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:38

Like you're her personal jester.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Yeah, I was like, all right, bruh.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

And so like jester maxing?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:42

Right. No, I would jester max for her. Me too.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:45

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

I would like, I'd be like, I'm so stupid. You're so smart.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:47

You know, like I'm so pretty, I'm so buzzing. Exactly. Girl, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:51

Oh my god. Like, also, how are you always at the scene of a crime? Yeah, like how the fuck do you sniff them out?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

My whole thing with um You'd be willing providers. Right. I mean, just being everything, being everywhere. I mean, that John Cena video was like a month old before I posted it. It was what? It was a month old before I posted it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

You see what I want you to see when I want you to see it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

There are videos. If it goes bad, I don't if it goes genuinely bad, I don't post it. Well, you didn't think John if it like I didn't think John Cena went that badly that I couldn't post it. I just thought it was like so bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:18

It was hilarious. It was fucking hilarious. Like I remember wrong. And like it's not bad on your part.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

Like there's nothing like you did wrong where No, he kind of just looks like looks old and you look young.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

Yeah, I was like, I'm like, I just like look like I'm like I look exactly like I am, like a public nuisance. And I kind of love it. And so it was like I remember like two years ago I saw Phineas at Coachella or something, and I was like, it's your turn because I just think to Billy or something. And he was like, he's like definitely not and walked away. And I like Billie Eilish enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

I love enough thing. Wait, is that like what well you said you were like a stan. You were like a previous Billy Stan, and now you're just like oh, I just like grew out of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

She's like fine. Like I respect what she's doing. I think she's like cool. I think she's very talented. I just like don't care about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:57

I feel a very similar way, actually. Like I had a really big Billie Eilish moment. Now I like don't really listen to her music as much, but like I liked her last album. I think it thought it was great.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:04

Like it just like wasn't for me. And like it doesn't mean it was bad. I just like literally.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

I'm like down. Like I'm down with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:11

Like I'm like, I love the guest remix. Like, I think I don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Whoa, really? Yeah. Oh, I was so there. It's just like a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:18

Well, after having a blasted, well, after having every after going to Tenants of the Trees every night, playing it every single night. And they would play it every single night because they play Lovey Like a Love Song.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

And then they played.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:27

Well, that DJ actually has like 20 songs on his USB that he's allowed to play.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

No, it's plug and play, and I go up every time. And I'm like, can I request a song? They're like, no. No, yeah, I know that he's like. I have to leave. I have to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like part of the USB.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:39

Well, one time I asked if we would play like Peace of Me by Britney Spears, and he said absolutely not. And I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:43

And then Abercadabra plays, and then you go home.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:45

Oh my God. Back in the day, I'm like, back in my day, tendency to just be like vinyl records, and like that's all they would play. And I'd go up and ask like for the psychedelic furs, and they'd be like, Yeah, we got you. And now it's like parting the USA into like some like trap remix. I'm like, okay. Yeah. I just like And then it's like all the USC kids, and I'm like, uh oh I can't be there.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:01

Well, I don't really go there anymore because I just like uh something traumatic happened that changed my life. AI was something traumatic happened to me that changed my life. That's nice on the trees.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:12

Like literally saying, wait, why? What's your trauma?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

Oh god, I mean I'm actually dishing in. I I've I have to get into it on my own podcast. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

But we can cut this part, we just want to know too.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

But yeah, I'll tell you when I'll tell you. Okay, okay. Okay, okay, that's fair. Dead ass.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:27

No, I have some tenants' trauma. It's real. Yeah, it's real. I was there this past weekend.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

Like, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:32

I just stopped going because I was like, I'm tired of seeing the same people.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

My friend's just DJing the small room, the little room.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:37

I like the little room. They play better music in the little room.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

Yeah, the little room is fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:40

My friend Daniel, he's been DJing. It doesn't get enough attention.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:43

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

He's been playing fun stuff too.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:45

Yeah, I feel like I want to DJ, but I don't I want to like really learn how to. I mean, I like I'm learning how to DJ, but I like want to play some like really weird shit. I feel like I listen to a lot of like all kinds of music, and so I want to like do my in-weird message.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

Wait, what what genre is your album? Or is it an E album?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:59

So I call everything, it's an EP, I call everything pop music in the sense that everything is pop music. Like I consider not like us by Kendrick Lamar a pop song. Totally because it's popular. It's like it has surpassed genre at a certain point in time. And so anyway, you know, I um I say it's like pop, but I'd say it's like there's like rock elements to it, and I would say there's like electronic elements to it. So it's like a weird mix, but I'd say it's but it's like overall, it's like the basis is pop. It falls under pop. Like that's the umbrella. It's like I would never act like I have anything other than that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:29

Honestly fair. I'm so excited to listen. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:32

I like literally I'm just like, ugh girl, this damn project.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:35

How long did it take you?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:36

Yeah, it took me like 80. It took so long to make it, and the only reason it took so long is because you're scheduling with everyone, so you're on their time. It's like I'll go into the studio when you have time because I will drop everything to the studio because that to me is the most important thing. And so it's like, but for other people, like, well, they have 80 other artists who are like trying to be like, well, I want to make a song with you, I want to make a song with you, blah blah blah. So it's like you're on everyone else's time. And it's like until they've seen a return on investment for like their time, like you're not gonna be prioritized.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

It's like even Chapel herself was like, Well, the reason it took so damn long to make my album is because Dan Nagro got busy with the Olivia Rodrigo stuff. Yeah, which like that he didn't have time for me. Yeah, yeah. Like that was paying the bills. Yeah, right. And like now, I'm sure you're gonna be able to.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:11

Are you with a label?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:12

No, that's the whole thing. I have to shop at the labels if anyone wants to buy it. And then if someone then if someone buys it, then like then um I don't have to pay for it myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

Yeah, that would be great.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:22

Yeah, but then I think you owe them like a big cut out of the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:24

I was gonna say, yeah, one of them a cut, and then also you kind of lose a little bit of control, creative control.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:28

No, not really. No, I think that I think that era is dead of like the label controls which you make.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:32

I honestly really depends on the label.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:35

Or do they just like give you free range and you're like, okay, labels are just like sure, but at this point, they're like whatever fucking works. Yeah. Like I hate when like every artist is like it's so funny every time there's a hit. This is the song that no one believed in at the label every time that always happens to be the hit. Like, I'm sure that's true for all of you. It's like that's the thing. It's just like I think now though, even though like the label didn't believe it, well, the song still came out. Yeah, so it's like whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

Wait, so random. I like I don't even know how my brain got there. Did Zara use your fight as like an interlude on the album? Yeah, she did. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:06

And here's T. I was supposed to be on the album.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

You were supposed to be on the video.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:10

I was supposed to be on the album as like an as an outro for that song, The Ambition. Oh, whoa. And then um, because that's the song it's kind of the interlude for. And I was supposed to originally be on the album. But what happened was I was supposed to be in the video. Yeah. Anyway, what happened was um it was between, I think someone it was like she has this song Hot and Sexy on the album. It's my favorite song on the album. It's so good. And it's the f it samples New York, like Tiffany Polard. Like she thinks she's beautiful, fly, hot and sexy, and the whole song is built on this sample. So and it comes right before The Ambition on the track list. And so honestly, it's like that would have been a better, it was a better sample usage than what I had going on. And so they went with that. And so they're like, well, we didn't want it to be like too meme-y.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:51

That makes so fucking sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:52

And so she's used on tour.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:53

Yeah, so she's used on her tour instead. And I was like, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:56

I mean, like I have a still iconic. Like so freaking iconic. I saw a clip on TikTok. I was like, is that real? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Well, I mean, she didn't have to do well, she didn't have to do anything. Like, she's very sweet. Like, that's someone who's like, I've in for years, like, I've always supported it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:06

It seems real amazing. She's really sweet. For sure. Like the fact that she knows that, she knows you, like, that's so iconic.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

I've known her since I was like 14 years old.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:14

You're like the OG stand.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

Yeah, because like that's the thing. Like, this is like okay, the thing is like Zara Lars was never a Kia in Europe. Like, Europe has always been very kind to Zara Lars, and even in her flop era, Europe has always been kind. In America.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

Europe has their own Kia Asylum, and like our faves sometimes are there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:26

Right. Well, it's like I love Rita Aura. And like that's like the head, that's like literally like the head warden of the Kia Asylum. I love Rita Aura. Yeah. I adore Rita Aura. I think Rita Ora. Well, I think Rita Aura is like an amazing musician. I love Rita Ora. Like, I'm a Rita Aura defender. I love Rita.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:39

She's Black Widow baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:41

Bitch, that's a classic. Rita Aura Phoenix album 2018, one of the best albums that came out that year. She's very talented. I love Rita Aura. I think she makes very high quality pop music. Very talented girl. And so, like, the thing is, like, I've always loved the Kias, I've always respected the Kias. And so Zara Larson, of course, was no exception to that rule. And so, like, my whole thing is like, like, she was a Kia, but not in Europe. Like, you're only a Kia when you're a European pop girl and you start flopping in Europe. That's when you're a Kia. If you're a European flop girl and you don't cross over to America, no, you just haven't crossed over yet. Because that's what it used to be called. Now it's like you're Kia, and I think it's like the label is almost like harmful. I also don't think like Kia silently going mainstream has done any. I think I hate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:21

Yeah, like done more harm than good.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:23

Well, now because brands it's only a matter of time for brands are being like, guys, are we in the Kia Asylum?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:29

I mean, like BB Rex is already kind of trying to do that moment where she's like, I'm trying to break out of the Kia Asylum.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:34

And it's like Did you watch that Louis Thoreau documentary about the manosphere? I'm so scared to watch it. It's like bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:40

I feel like it's gonna stress me out too much.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:41

No, yeah. It's like it's bad, and the reason it's bad is because there's like he's like dragging this one TikToker in front of his, or like this one streamer, whatever the hell in front of his mom. And anyway, his mom's like, Aren't you like legit making a documentary about this for Netflix? Like you're saying he's so bad, he's so bad, you're the one making money off it. Yeah, and like he has nothing to say to it. Yeah, and then like anyway, it's like it's so stupid because I'm like, no, she's right. Uh-huh. I'm like, you're saying, oh, there's a point. It's like, oh, they're so bad, they're so bad, they're so bad. You're sitting here making a fucking documentary about it for money. And it's just like, well, she's right, and he had nothing to say to her. And though, so I'm like, I'm like, yeah, this kind of throws your whole documentary out of the window. No, I'm like, your point is like invalid. Or he's like, he's like, I was in the stream and they called me names. Yeah, that's like we we already know that there was no new information.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

I mean, like that to everyone, and like also you're kind of putting yourself out there for that to happen. You kind of want that to happen for your brand.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:35

Yeah, it was just like I didn't really love it. I don't like you could have done better than that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:40

Sometimes at the end, I just do like rapid fire.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Like I have a few too. Pop culture topics. Oh my god, Hayley Beck, Noah Beck's sister, the SA. God relationship with a high school student.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:51

It's really, really, really awful considering I mean it's like a kid. It's so crazy. The thing that's weird about it is like that TikTok about them making like a joke, like, oh, you get real close with their students. And obviously, they made it like not knowing that she really did. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:05

That's that is really the writing was on the wall. Something like that happened at my high school with my one of my swim coaches, like my sophomore year, I want to say. Like, she literally was fired because she like was having this thing with this kid who was on the baseball team. It was like actually nuts.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:18

Like awful.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:19

She happened a few times at my high school, so whatever. Um, Taylor Swift adopted a dog. Oh, I saw that. Oh, that's sweet. I saw that. I saw that as well. She's so cat lady.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:27

Well, no, I think her mom has the dogs, so it's like she doesn't like that dog. Oh, well, isn't it like a big white dog?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:33

Yeah, you think it's like is it Travis's? Yeah, I think it's Travis's, and people are like, it's the most cat-like dog. That just can't be true. Yeah, no, that's just so not her. I think the most cat-like dog is like a pug, but obviously she'd get canceled if she got a pug.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:43

Well, it's just like, so we know that like we know this how about like it's a cat-like dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:48

Right, exactly. It's literally like Selena Gomez activism thread.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:51

Like, legit.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

Um my god, Christy Gnome's husband, the bimbofocation. Yes. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:58

Um this is not the first time. Have you guys ever watched that movie Assassination Nation?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:02

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:03

Oh my god, we're like the really Republican, like mayor or whatever the fuck is like, turns out he's like super into cross-dressing.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:10

But this happens so often. Specification. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:13

And like this is like a common trope. Like, I wasn't really phased. I think I was more, it's like yeah, it's talking. Like, is it like she doesn't even work in the White House anymore? It's like, oh, okay, it's like you have bigger fish to fry.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:26

Literally. Oh, Noah Schnapp hasn't a boyfriend. I saw he did like all sorts of things.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:30

I thought it was April Fool's.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:33

Was it?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:34

I don't know. I saw someone say it was April Fools, but I also don't really care about what Noah Schnapp is doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

Yeah, well, me neither.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:39

Like, that's nice, sweetie. Right. Well, I just saw someone like, I'm not, I didn't watch Stranger Things for the last like what five years. What else is he in?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:46

Um, nothing. Nothing. Oh, he was in one short film called Abe. I know this because I'd be obsessed with Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:54

I was like, well, what are you in that I would know?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:56

Nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:57

I was like, he gets Noah bookings. Oh my god, this is like just for us, but like we have this running bet. I don't know if you like are a flop, but like Molly, every time she runs into like Charlie from Love Island, she goes up to him, she takes a selfie with him.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:09

I go, Oh my god, it's so nice to meet you. I'm such a big fan. Can I take a selfie? And then I take a selfie, and then I go, thank you so much, and I leave. I have like three, four pictures. You run into each other. Too many. Like genuinely too many. Like 4100, The Grove, like La La Lands, like we be running into each other. I like We're both flops. Like, yeah, like flops, like when you're unemployed and like kind of irrelevant, like you go to the same places. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:32

You'll run into each other.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:33

I have an album on my phone.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:35

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

So like I ran into him at a party like two weeks ago. I was like, oh my God, my friend has this running bit with you, like whatever, whatever. I'm like, I need a picture. Took a picture with him. Not even kidding, maybe three days ago, he posted and I'm playing in his face, too. I'm like, oh, I love language. Like, take a picture with me. Like, whatever. He posted TikTok three days ago and he's like, Rye. It's just it's just so disrespectful when Americans come up to you and they just mimic your hands. And treat you like a toy, treat you like a fucking prop, blah, blah, blah. I sent it to Molly, I go, I know we did this to him. Think we might have done this.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

The way I like literally have never seen Love Island.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

And just don't. Like, there's no need.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:15

I've never seen it. That was so funny when I sang to like a Maya Papaya or whatever. I'm just like, why didn't you sing her song? I was like, baby, I didn't know it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

I didn't know it. Yeah, baby doesn't. Oh, interesting. You really are in certain corners of the internet in certain things.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:24

Well, I'm just like, this Love Island thing is for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

You're also a contrarian.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:27

Well, I'm just like, this Love Island thing, like, isn't for me. I like don't really care. I'm like, I'm like, if I'm not getting pipe, then I don't care about who else is getting pipe. It's like cuck behavior to watch Love Island come.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

That me is how in my cuck chair. No, I literally love everything I'm saying. Rubbing my stomach like this night. Yeah. Yeah, like I love it. The recoupling. The fire.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

Like, I want to talk to Rob Roush or whatever the fuck. I don't want to be like, I don't fucking care about like.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:50

Yeah, like don't piss me off. Like, I don't want to like want to watch other bitches on TV talk to him.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:53

Right. Like, it should be me.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

You could sing to him. Have you?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:58

No, I don't want to.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:59

Too scared.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:00

It's cheap. And that's coming from me. You're like, fuck that bit. Well, I mean, I'm just like.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:05

You won traitors.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:06

I didn't watch traders.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

Well, are you not a reality TV girl?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:10

Well, my definition of reality TV is very different. Like, I think baddies is good reality TV. Baddies! Because that's the problem. That's the problem with all of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:18

Who's your favorite on baddies?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:19

Natalie.

unknown 1:14:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:21

Obviously.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:23

Miss Nunn. Okay. No, Miss Nunn. Vicky was, of course, lovely on baddies. But she's no longer. I mean, like, I love Rolly.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

I love Rolly.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:31

I like everything. Baddy to me is like primary. Not in the body. Because like they get down on baddies. Like on Love Island, it's like, it's like, you fuck the guy I was talking to. Okay, that's LA drama. I deal with that every part.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:42

Is it like amplified Jersey Shore?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:43

It's so crazy, but honestly, I think it's kind of fucked up when certain people watch baddies.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:47

Elaborate. Like, you need to watch baddies and you need to like because there's like definitely just a racial component to it, like, you need to watch it and be like, okay, I know what I'm watching. You can't just watch to watch these girls fight. You like have to watch like for real genuine reasons. And I think some people are like just like to see black women fighting each other. And it's like, no, that's why you can't. That's not why you can't watch it. No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:06

It's like, I don't know, like when Natalie said she wants a gypsy heroes on baddies, like, okay, gypsy heroes and going on fucking Love Island. I would love to see our baddies.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

Oh my god, are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:13

Yeah, like baddies had Vicky.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:15

She couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:16

I need to watch Gypsy.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:18

Like Krishana on Baddies. Hello. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:21

It's insane. They do, um, yeah, they do like the the reunions at CBS. Um, like in like near the error one in the grove. That's where they do the reunions. I know because I was talking to someone about a job to be one of the people to like hand out flyers for like or like wrangle the audience members for the baddies reunion. I didn't get that job. Um but I literally they were like, yeah, like a lot of people don't want to do it. Like it goes until like 5 a.m. And I was like, no, like I'm more than down, like you don't have to pay me. And I think they were like, we can't hire her. Like I was literally like, because she was like, there's this show, baddies. Um baddies.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:00

I bought a Natalie Nunn meet and greet like literally two months ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:04

She's playing a concert here in May. I really want to go. Study Africa was. Well, I bought a meet and greet and concert ticket, but then I just didn't stay for the concert because like she's on in three hours. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:15

Oh, that's her?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:16

Yeah, pose for me, baby. Natalie Nunn! She literally says Natalie Nunn.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

Oh my god, I didn't know it was her. It says Natalie Nunn! I thought that was just someone like shouting her out.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:24

No, no, no, no one really shouts her out. Nikki did one time one. Nikki did one last one. Yes. None of these bitches could chin check.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:29

Well, Cardi just brought it on stage at Madison Square Garden. I didn't know about this. Yeah, she brought it on stage, doing what I want.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:34

Oh my god. Wait. That wanted the little most drama tour. It's like we said we needed to rap, and I'm like, wait a second, but baddies.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:39

That's so crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

I had to tap in.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:41

It's the best show.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:42

It's like a lot of content to consume, but yeah. If you go in with the right attitude, it's really magical.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:48

I'm so sad I don't want this to end. Oh I know. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

I like we really hit that flow state.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:52

Like, I know. I'm having so much fun. I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:55

I'm like, we need to get our money up so we can like film longer. Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:59

We and a half. Yeah. We're going over our time and they have to tell us to stop.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:03

We normally do like an hour, like hour 15. Keep it cheap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

Everyone's like, do two hours. We're like, we want to do it. I'm like, or is like, if we could, we would. Y'all just like play it on silent, like.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:15

Oh, I keep it on my TV on the loop.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:17

On the loop.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:18

Like, I have those ads playing on my phone on my TV. I'm about to start like making burner accounts.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

Yeah, it's like, were you interested in that ad? Yes. Oh, I'm answering the surveys. Yeah, exactly. I'm replying to people in comments. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:30

You guys are gonna have to come on my show then.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:32

Done. Please. Oh my god. Is it in the works?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:34

Yeah, we started filming on the website. Oh my god. No, we literally started filming.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

We click say the name talking to me that people chronically online. Oh, perfect.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:41

It's out in like two weeks.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:42

Um shut up. It's like shocking that people like bank episodes because we didn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:46

Oh we started, we were like, okay, first episode, in five days.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:49

Oh yeah, I mean, like the thing is I technically am just like we have a whole thing coming for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:53

No, like you have like a real rollout. That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:55

Well, it's like, no, I can't, I can't do anything without doing like a roll. Like, I'm not a spontaneous person. That's why on that clap stream, I was like, thank god, thank God it gets clipped, right? Yeah, because I am so fucking awkward, and so it's like half the stream I'm standing there, like you're so freaking funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:08

Yeah, yeah. But no, that's also like part of the joy.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

Maybe it was like just you like looming in the background, like it's like I'm breathing. I'm like, I just loved he goes, hey, quiet.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

No, the funniest thing about all this too is his friend is like, I'm newly bisexual. Would you like to come upstairs with me? E na E.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

I'm newly bisexual.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:30

Like he just found this out like two days ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:32

Yeah, kind of. I was like, Oh my god, perfect. You know, he's like, he's like, he's like, I love Vaseline because I have to use it for gay sex.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:38

He watched your rivalry.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:40

You don't even use Vaseline, it's like literally what sepsis. It's like a last resort.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:45

Right. Petroleum gelatin. Like I'd use spit first. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:49

It's crazy, but it's true. I mean, you're Vaseline for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

Yeah, you can't use Vaseline. Well, no, no, no, like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:54

I mean, people use it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:55

I feel like that would like clog holes.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:57

No, it does. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:58

I think that would cause hemorrhoids.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:00

Well, yeah, because you have Vaseline and then like running around amok in your organs.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:03

Oh my god, I feel like your nut couldn't even get out. It'd like block it.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:07

Like petroleum jelly. It's a weird mixture of fluids. Like, I guess. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:15

Oh my god. I don't know. I like want to stream with you. We're gonna be able to do that. I know literally because we're streamers, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:22

We'll just talk about a whole lot of nothing for like eight hours.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:25

I know. I just feel like you'd be so funny, like responding to comments like in real time. Yeah. It's so fucking funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:30

God, I like literally some of the comments. I mean, like, I mean, like sometimes it depends on comments. Like on the club stream, I was like, I'm not even engaging.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:37

Yeah, but I also feel like those are coming in rapid fire, you can't even read.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:39

And it's like a demographic you're probably not interacting with all the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:42

Well, that's all I want. You want to interact with demographics you're not interacting with. That way you can reach new demographics. Like, that's the thing that like it's like that's the thing about like what I do. It's like I try to like do everything as wide appeal as possible. So that way it's gonna reach. Well, it worked because I was mech I was mixing demographics. If you like John Cena, you like the video. If you like it or stuff, you'll watch the video. So good. All right, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:58

Flap your wings. Flap your wings. Love you.