S9E9: From Dancehall to Deliverance — The Testimony of Dr. Taneisha Shaw

In this episode of the Kareem Bwoyatingz Podcast, Kareem sits down with Dr. Taneisha Shaw, also known as The Radical Preacher.

From her upbringing on Maxfield Avenue to her past in the dancehall world, Dr. Shaw shares her journey of transformation, faith, and purpose.

This is a conversation about redemption, growth, and the power of change.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Boy Tings Podcast is brought to you by GWM Lobas Firm, Mark Superstore, and watch a block by Red. Welcome back to Boy Things Podcast with the No Emperor Boy Kings and today's episode is not for the faint-hearted. It's for anyone who believes your past does not disqualify you from your purpose. My guest today is a woman whose life reads like a testimony you can't make up. Born and raised on Maxfield Avenue in Kingston, she came up in the inner city where survival was learnt early, and faith came later. Before the pulpit, before the prayer line, before the anointing, she was deep in the dancehall world, moving as a promoter, a dancer, and living a life she now boldly admits was wrapped in danger, deception, and darkness. But God had other plans. Today she's a gospel minister, evangelist, author, CEO, conference founder, and a voice many known as Miss Click Click Powell, a symbol of spiritual authority and warfare. This conversation is real, it's raw, and it's rooted in truth. Please help me welcome the radical preacher, Dr. Tanisha Shaw. Welcome to Boya Things Podcast. How are you?

SPEAKER_06 1:25

I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

So I'll let a backstory, right? I remember seeing your lives a couple years ago, right? I haven't been following you, but I sometimes see your Instagram lives at the time, I think it was. And last year I did a fasting, and my podcast, I've been on a break for years. I'm gonna do a fasting, I'm gonna say, Father God, I feel like same. Oh fall back with the podcast, right? So I'm doing my content list and your name is on it. This is from like September, you know, August September. Say name the panel. Um I think I saw you after that. We were in the same bus going to the CCY show. When would they not the place and then I shut the way? And you were in the bus. And I remember saying to myself, This is the confirmation that I should ask you, but we're never about to ask you again that yeah, we just make it stay. Yeah, yeah. Then another time you were on your TikTok live. This is now recent. You depend on your TikTok live.

SPEAKER_07 2:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

And I came over there, and I don't remember what you were talking about, but it was like an early morning, and I said, There's no way that this is a coincidence because I don't scroll on TikTok. Plus, post and go. We don't read comments, we don't scroll nothing. I'm saying, God, this is a confirmation. So I had to have you on the show, but you have to make it work some way, shape, or form. So I must just say, you know, thank you so much for being here. Welcome back to another make me want the keys. Now, Jerome has 60 seconds to sell this vehicle to us. I'm going to start the timer. You understand me? 60 seconds on the clock. Tell us all you need to tell us about this vehicle and go.

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SPEAKER_02 3:49

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SPEAKER_06 4:00

It's an honor and a privilege. Always an opportunity for me every time that I do an interview because somebody out there needs what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Some in shape or form. Okay, so some of us would have known your story and we would have seen it, we would have watched it, we would have heard it. But for the ones who haven't, uh just take me back to Maxfield Avenue. Alright? Someone for go back to your formative years. Maxfield Avenue, what was your childhood like, you know, like growing up in the inner city? Your your most fond moment from you know those times in your life.

SPEAKER_06 4:35

Ah, you drag my back. Yeah, but no, that's fine. I always remember my past, but dear past, yes, I'm done with you. Benediction. You know, but it's always to tell people where you're coming from, because if you don't know where you're coming from, you will not know where you're going. And I want to say that that growing in Maxwell was I learned that by coming out of Maxwell that you can be in the ghetto and become a product of your environment because nothing powerful than when your mind changes. And this is where everybody might be in the ghetto, but you never come for remain in the ghetto. And people have to have that mindset. You have to have the mindset to go and come. But I believe that God is very intentional. Yes, it was purposeful that I was born and green at the ghetto because where God, what what God was doing inside of me was building me muscles, spiritual muscles. The ghetto was the most things that I see, and I could have differentiated where who I want to become and what I don't want to become. And growing in Maxhill, I learned and I see a lot of things. I see young girls by the time we reach 15, 16, we get pregnant. We see the young boys not care educated and the big school where they go. Not because of them doing it sometime, but like I learned something about the gate. So you will grow your child the good way. But when them go outside and connect with somebody, it's a different somebody. And this is why learn me, it teaches me to be a mother of prayer, a mother who let my son go down on him knee and I pour aisle on him and pray and speak over him because parents have authority what they don't know, and they need to do that. I did that for my son because I did not get that. Yeah, so my son, my seed shall be great in the land, no matter what will take our coron speak it because parents have authority what they don't know. So I learned that you have to do what you never get for your son.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

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SPEAKER_02 8:15

I want to know um for somebody who you know was born and bred, I know that you had a shop or a bar or something like that. Yeah, right? Um, but what did survival look like for a younger like yourself, you know, trying to survive on a daily basis?

SPEAKER_06 8:36

So I I I can tell you this. I was a person, I believe that it comes from my mother. I used to wonder, I'm a person who from younger high school, me as well taking a school and teacher, get mad and put all your outer class, hustle. That's what it that's what I did now. Yes, just to hustle. So even when coming to Christian Christendom, I was fighting with God because God wants me in a full-time ministry. And me won't go hustle, that me know. And the Lord said, you're too connected to your history. Me do something new. And he made me write a book, I go do song, it made me stop minister all over and he said, listen, we're in a full-time ministry. So it was very difficult. You have to truly surrender to God to really walk into God. Because you are saying, Hope you can survive when you for Anderson say God control the world, everything. Because if him gave the strength for God do what you do, or you can do it anyway. So if you do what him do, you walk in on purpose because purpose is what God created you for. So me being survival, I I could not be somebody else because as I tell you, by fighting, I see what I did not want in Max Seal. So I went to town, I have a shopper, Max Seal, I've never shop, I never stall at town same time, I never stop. When my inner seed me sell weed, I keep partying, I do everything, I like multiple streams of income. Because when one no work, one works, you know what I mean? So even now that I have all of these things I used to do. So I'm not the person, I wasn't a girl who a man can come with them money and feel like that I can get to because me know my mother's a survival. My band comes see my mother, my mother tell me this that she got pregnant at the age 14 and she was selling kiss cup up. One of the time she has sell her glean and a hide from her friend him. So I come see my mother. My mother did have a grocery shop too, and she sells clothes too, she sells shoes too, and everything. So my band comes to that.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Just what you were raised.

SPEAKER_06 10:40

Yes, so I wasn't a person who just sit.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

I'm just lazy.

SPEAKER_06 10:45

Even when I did the ghetto couldn't even have the capacity to for me because I I used to have a friend, she said, I thought that I didn't know that me and you were the same age because of what I see I do. A long time I see I got tone and see ya do this and another. So she thought that I was older. Older than because oh I am. Yes, so that kind of build me, and then you know, they get to you know, you can just buy something and start sell.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

And it works.

SPEAKER_06 11:11

And it worked. Yeah, so me personally, me never I never face like, you know, but with the struggle the same way. Yeah. One thing I understand about certain areas, there's a curse that fight, I care how much money you have, it comes like butter against sun. Especially when you don't know if we involve God in it and trust God with their finance. So I learned that. So even though God will do this and doors will open, we still have struggle. Yeah, you know what I mean? So I learned that that, but if we if we don't we decide so we're not going to do anything, I expect and doubts, we're not going to get better. So you have to think, ah, my thing. I was I live in Kingston 13 in Maxfield Avenue. I was the first person to keep a cake seal. In Maxfield. Once I see it, yes, I used to sell downtown, downtown get Tivali Garden Arcade. So Tivali do cake seal right too. Me had the first one.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

See the scatter Maxville. Well, so then you had a child at what age?

SPEAKER_06 12:15

I had a child at 15. I had baby when I at 16.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

At 16. Yeah. And at that time, you weren't in the church as yet.

SPEAKER_06 12:22

No, I wasn't in the church as yet.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

But then I also heard in an interview where you said, even though you used to be promoting all these things in at the dance hall, you still used to go to church on a Sunday.

SPEAKER_06 12:31

That's why um somebody asked me, How do you find God? I said, No, you get it wrong. God find me. Because I used to say, God, our like I would be randomly in my house when a Sunday I'm gonna say church. So I said, God wanted Christian, when I go to complete, yeah, it's like there was a calling that you know the Bible says he knew you before you even knew him, him knew your mother home. So God knows what he has placed on me. So him allow me to grow in Maxil, him, allow my mother and father to come together to have me. So we could have been, I could have been who I am today. You know what I mean? I don't regret nothing, I don't wish to be somebody else because I would not have this story, I would not be so passionate. Indeed. I would not be so so so so so much the things that I know now, I would not be so passionate and fierce about it. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because what I have gone through, it has changed the whole demeanor. And I believe that I was a person who I TikTok, I'm a little fight. No, I'm still a fight.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

It's a different fighting I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 13:52

So it's not in the flesh, you know, the spirit. Yeah, I will understand the assignment. So because of the fighting and who I was, it makes it easier for not giving it and switch right over into what God really wants me to be. I love it. I love the fact that listen, many a time I said when God delivers you from a place, don't go back. Because I don't really go to max seal like that. And you have to people don't understand it. Some people that say, Oh, she don't come and she don't come back, but you need to understand that when God delivers you from a place, you cannot go back. Because there are principalities and powers that something sometimes from the past, the Bible says every now and then the spirit comes and see if your house is clean, to see if it can't come enter, and then when it entered it, enter wickeder than before. So every now and then the past won't come back at you. Yes, so you have to learn for cut yourself and cut the diabolical card. So if my mother did bury my my my neighbor's children of Max Seal, I dig it up in other realms of the spirit and bond that you can't remember. No, for real.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

I love it. Here's the thing, and this is something that um that I am very, very uh sure of, and I've always been adamant about it. That once you feel like say God kind of take you away from a set of people, from a place, from whatever the case is, me to believe safe or go back.

SPEAKER_06 15:08

No, many people, but many people will hear it and them just get it wrong. They don't really understand it because they never walk into it. I used to be in Max and I see people do it, and I used to have a problem too. Right. So I can get I can relate to where they're coming from, but I want them to have an understanding that when God delivers you from a place, don't go back.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yes, load.

SPEAKER_06 15:29

There's some place where you have to cut everything, pack up everything, but by benediction done, it's over. You know what I mean? No, it's over. Yeah, so I said I don't eat my passport, I will not go back there because of what God is doing. And when God tells us if you level up, you cannot cycle.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

Yes, that is true.

SPEAKER_06 15:47

You cannot cycle because of where God is taking you. You have to the first thing when I was in Maxie, there are things that God speaks to me, and it still stands out today. He said, for you to see my glory, you have to leg up people, places, and things. And you must come to the you must you must you must realize that for you because what you don't address and where you don't confront, you cannot correct it. So many people don't know because them that address it, they don't they don't take the time to look and see, look at where God takes it from, what God is doing. Many a time people go through some things they don't even know that God is speaking to them. I learned something just now. The Lord whispered in my ears and said, you have to position yourself for the aisle for flow. So many a time people go through the breaking, but they don't know that that's the time when the aisle flows the most. Because what happened when you're going through something, this is why I write the book, The Wisdom to Win the War. Because when you look at a war, you think say a war comes make you bad. When a war stir up the warrior inside of you, build your spiritual muscle, make you able to take on the world. You know what I mean? So people look at things because war fear keep me at the pastor of God. Warfear make me fast more, war fear makes me pray more, make me stay at Jesus' feet. So if it takes you for go through the fire, yes, for be the fire, then that's what God is doing.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:14

Because many people, if you don't go through anything, oh yeah, if if goal no go through fire, oh, we know we are goal. If we don't go through it, you know, yeah, some war fear just make me know say there's a indicate, is an indicator, you know, like when you're driving the car and you're gonna take a turn off and you've put on the indicator that indicates that something is about to happen. Something is about to shift.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

A message, a message. I want to know though, right? So from the party and the things that you sell the things them and you do the things them, you warboat. What was that like definite moment where you've decided of one foot in, one foot out? I ain't happy all the poker and roll poker. But what was that moment for you?

SPEAKER_06 17:52

Alright. Even though this is why I don't judge people because oh my rough enough people make um don't know the real me. Because I believe that God give people their own personality. And I believe that despite who I was, there was a loving part of me. There was a godly thing that is inside of me. That's why I could have able to go party. Because even though I was in the world, I realized that enough things me never do. So I never belongs there. You know what I mean? Enough things I did not do, I never have the heart or the capacity for them the type of living day. You know what I mean? So even though I was a rough and tough girl, come from Maxel and everything, I still I always say this. Because people think that because you come from the ghetto, you have a ghetto mentality. Not that girl here. I didn't have a ghetto mentality. I always want to come out. But every time my friend would have come from Farin Fay, the big part of them, I pop my bag and gone. Cause your so is not it. You know, you have days when we get up and say, I feel like I want to go somewhere, the people them frighten over me. Like, me like for them not give me what me I look for. You know what I mean? So, and I learned that, and this is why I tell people I tell somebody, I tell a friend the other day, I say, you know something I really need now, old friend? And it's not because you're better than her or nothing, because where God is taking you and the work that I do. Look here, the work that I do, I meet people every day. And if a new friend still, if an old friend still all, all way of thinking, all things still the wish partially, because we have people who we meet five years ago and they still remain the same. That's not for we no more. You have to learn to set boundaries. I learn that. I learned that even now I don't I don't try to go to places where even I tell them this man that was preaching, I said, somehow we too enough. We need to lessen ourselves. We want to be everywhere, we want to do everything. People don't respect what you have access to. You have to limit your access. So when people see them happy because they don't do it regularly, they don't casual. And the Lord have to train me. I remember an election day I went down to Maxwell and me, the past me want to come out and just go jail. And the Lord said, remember this. A king don't get crowned in everyone to take away yourself. And I'd have to, there are things that I give up the word I really want to do. And that's where the decision comes in and the discipline that no, you're not gonna do that. You're not gonna go there, you're not gonna do that. If me sin, you know, for go pray that different, but not just going to go in with the water for what? What what why can I do for you?

SPEAKER_02 20:59

You no longer have a purpose there, but oh okay, so you uh gave your life over fully to the Lord in what year?

SPEAKER_06 21:06

Um 2014.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

So that's what, 12 years ago. Yes. Um the journey hasn't been easy.

SPEAKER_06 21:12

Um because people always say the journey is not easy, but if you say it, we we we don't realize how powerful your mouth is. If you say it hard, it's gonna be hard. The enemy are gonna put every roadblock, everything just for you for say and look at it that it is hard. But if you hold on to the anchor of God and know say God and may you in at this one and one and make it easy, even when you see the worst thing. So for me, living in a sin harder than coming to God.

SPEAKER_07 21:41

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 21:41

I believe that because many people don't know that they have a scale over them eye. You see what God has shown me, the the the prophetic word arise and the gifting and just me knowing I would not train that for anything.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

I wanted to kind of touch on that. The prophetic side of you is that a gift that you were born with? And anybody realized any of it? Of course.

SPEAKER_06 22:08

Remember, before you even burn everything that you see or do that was there. But I remember downtown one day and I was just talking about God, and then when my look messy crowded around me, I wasn't safe at that time. Really, it it it it I wouldn't say I was safe, but never get surrender. You know what I mean? So and when I look, I say, God, how will you do with me? And he said, I have given you a voice. But the only way it can activate is when you truly surrender. So when you truly surrender, that's why God says surrender all. There's something where you will come and fathom, where you never did fathom. The scale, no care all people say, I love God, I love God. You can't love God really until you truly surrender unto him. And I can tell you off an experience because I've been going to church and then being a sin. I live the both way. So I know when the difference will come when I said yes to God. I start to see. I start understanding and get wisdom, knowledge, and you get spiritual intelligence from that.

SPEAKER_07 23:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 23:21

You know what I mean? So the prophetic, I did not know anything about it.

SPEAKER_07 23:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 23:26

Some are taught and some are caught. It's not every church you're going at to them literally do it like ABC 1, 2, 3. You have to have the spiritual wisdom for that. Because Holy Spirit are the biggest teacher. Many people say, every time I speak, people say, which church you go? But I want to tell people the church don't have nothing to the church. Can be a little part, but you a relationship is personal between you and God. And I want people to understand that. When you have a personal and he calls intimacy, because many people don't understand intimacy with God. Intimacy with God is you having a full force relationship with God. Many people want to have intimacy with a man or a woman, but not with God. You know what I mean? And I learned that intimacy is a spirit because it's not everybody, even when they say my baptize, when they say, I am a pastor, I am this, they don't have that intimacy with God. Because when you have that true intimacy with God, you talk like him, you behave like him, whatever you do when you line up with him, it troubles you and convict you.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:30

Many people today we see people do a lot of things, Christian, and do anything, and it don't convict them. The Holy Spirit is not with them. When the Holy Spirit is with you, I tell him say back gunpowder, all right then sir. I just eat that. I surrender.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

I surrender on. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 24:50

You never get, you know, get me some, you know, me not get with nothing.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

So I can want to. I know that there was this incident that happened in Canada. You want to go there? We can go there. Okay. Um, so what happened and also what went what went through your mind when you were caught.

SPEAKER_06 25:13

God, you left me right here, so that that was the first thing we said, God, you really turn your back for me right here. Because I was always a praying person and I was praying, and I tell God that if you know I'm not gonna go, just break my foot. He never did. No, God may thank you for that. You never answer. It's not every prayer God answer, and that is good. He knows more than me and you. And uh when I because I tell people, sometimes I see some people and I say, When they didn't sin for them a coward. No, for real. Yes, me, I tell you, yes, bull like a lion. What I did, I don't believe a lot of people would have done it. Because I take a can I take a passport from Canada. I got a passport from Canada. Remember, you can't tamper with Canada passport. So it's either you have the person favor or not. And for me, meet the girl big and fat, so they tell them, no, me have a weight. But me this sleep like a wis, but I still say, Me go.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Put the passport.

SPEAKER_06 26:13

Yes, man, put the passport, man. And I did.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

So you look alike?

SPEAKER_06 26:17

No, it's not something that I'm proud of. No, I would never ever do that again. But I did it because I have my son in Canada and I said, if it even was a parachute, if parachute could have come back to Canada at that time, they would have came back to Canada because I have one son and I send him. And I never was hearing from him the way I wanted to. So I make a decision that listen, Canada may I go, Canada mean go.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

So then at the airport they caught it over there?

SPEAKER_06 26:42

Over there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Over a big firing. And then them ask her and you tell them the truth.

SPEAKER_06 26:47

No, what happened? It was me and God wrestling in that. When the woman said, Did you do did you do the plastic surgery? I was like, No.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Six to say yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:00

No, but let me tell you something for make it easier. Yes, Canada is not stupid. Okay, and I'm not gonna say Jamaica is stupid, but things where Jamaica it passed.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Jamaica it not gonna pass. It's not gonna pass. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_06 27:14

And once they they they see something, they see like it vivid, but Jamaica never understands. Jamaica I get in my way, I was saying Jamaica say, nobody never brief so. So they're not even text somebody passport. And I'm then in a eight, and just bearing so because we never wear a big ear style because I cover my face, just like we said this, I wear a barber shortcut right here. So nobody knows nobody not. Jamaica now fathomed that. So when I reached Canada, that's where the attacks come.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

And then they stop you.

SPEAKER_06 27:50

So when she stopped me, she said, Did you do a place? I was like, No. So when them go round, they must say, the immigration man never even come and say, is this you? The man sister and me. The man said he was like, um, where do you get this passport from? I said passport office, please.

SPEAKER_05 28:15

Passport office now, I remember.

SPEAKER_06 28:18

I never went anywhere. I don't know. We're gonna miss any government and the one. No, the money is not stupid because this is a born Canadian. We don't even have the accent like that. My God. This is a born Canadian passport we use.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Similar Cube?

SPEAKER_06 28:40

No, they did not. What happened when he said, Um, where do you get this passport from? In instantly me hear a voice in my head say, the truth shall set you free. I was like, so he asked me two times. The third time he asked me, I said, um, you know what, it's not me. Them times I was 19 years old. And he came back and he said, What does a 19-year-old do in smuggling through Canada? And I said, sir, to be can I tell you the truth? I have my son and I decide that my son said, sir, I know loony tune in nickel and dime. I know so the same to what the talis do I know, so I speak two languages, French and English. I've walked my name is Tanisha Shaw. Bojo, I mean the man. Yes, I was like, so yeah, I give me a boom. I said, sir, we even know the aunt, the Canada anthem. I start saying, Oh Canada, oh my native land. So the man said, the man said, he went away back and he goes on me. I tell you, there I was so I get broken now. I said, God, I sit. I remember sitting on the on this chair, and I said, God, this is where you're turning back from me. And I was crying, and then when I look up, so I saw the immigration man come and he said, You know what? You know, I can't forget nothing about that day. He said, You know what? You know what? I'm gonna help you. You see, when your life is not your own, and I'm not gonna tell anybody that I did not do wrong, but there's a scripture that resonates with me that said, in Proverbs 3 and verse 5, that said, In all thy ways, acknowledge him and he will direct your part. It's not a joke scripture that because that man was in position enough could I make a decision that he was going to help me because he gave me refugee status one spot.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 30:37

And he said to me, and I'm gonna tell you this, and I'm gonna tell somebody this if God says something, God is gonna do it for you. Hear me and hear me with your good ears. When I reached Canada, the man said, You have to promise me. No, first him called two other immigration women. So you know, when I see them come, you may start saying, Oh Canada, like eternal father. I stand up straight like a man. And when I start saying, Oh Canada, or oh my okay, Mama said with glory not we see the rise, the truth, not strong and free. And I'm saying, okay, Mama say far and wide, oh Canada, we stand in God. And I'm so okay, Mama say God keep a land glorious and free. Oh Canada, we stand in God for thee. Them love, them, love, them, love, them, love, them, love, them, love them.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

You sing on the until you write it. Mr. Mr. Sing.

SPEAKER_06 31:35

Mr. Eternal Father Finney.

SPEAKER_07 31:40

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 31:41

I'm telling you, it was like, so the way we didn't mess. You ever been to Canada yet? I said, no. They say, you know, people in Canada don't know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Don't even know the anthem, like oh, you know the anthem, they never go there yet. I love that though.

SPEAKER_06 31:56

So the lady said, he goes and him come back and say, you know what? I'm gonna help you out. The immigration name was laughing, and she said, and she said, you know what? You deserve Canada. That's what the immigration um lady looked at me and said. And he said, You have to promise me something. You have to send me an address in space of 10 days. And he gave me somewhere to send them my address in space of 10 days. In space of 10 days, I send them my address. I did not run. I did not because even though I did that, I was always an honest person. And the reason why I came home back because I was in Canada and I feel like even though I'm free, I still feel like I have an handcuff. Because I remember me and my hustle, you know. And when we're in Canada, I was still working, I was still doing what I do, but it would it must still feel like handcuff for man. So one day I go to God and I say, God, let me go through this and I tell you how to see it. And I say, go back to Jamaica and I, God, will make you come good. And when I was coming back, I remember I have a friend that lived in Clarendon. She said, No good one day.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

No, don't go back.

SPEAKER_06 33:11

No, she's like, don't go back. I'm gonna say each time. Let me tell you something. There's a will that call your will and God will. When I came out, I did not go for God's will. From the destination of the surrender, that was a miracle God performed here. It was it was a miracle because I'm supposed to send me back on the next plane. But God intervener. I'm supposed to pay at least $5,000 for even come out under bail. That did not happen. Jesus dropped the charges. They give me a them give me a quarter and said, go downstairs and call somebody who you know in Canada to come and pick you up. They did it. God answered, it was a miracle. They give me a refugee status and the immigration. So if police stop you, tell them we know about you and show them this. The card upon the spot. It have LCAD for one year. That's the same thing I used to get my son to go to school in Canada. You see, God no make mistakes.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Never ever.

SPEAKER_06 34:21

You know what I mean? Never ever. So whatever did me did forget stopped.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Yes. That was supposed to happen. It's stopped. That was supposed to happen.

SPEAKER_06 34:30

The man was on the time at that work.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 34:34

That shift.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Everything happened.

SPEAKER_06 34:36

Everything was lined up with God. So when I reached the Canada now and my daddy had me a good treat and said, God, he said, go on back home.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

And how long were you there for?

SPEAKER_06 34:48

Three, two years and eight months. Just four more months to make. Three years. And then my decide say, and then we get married. Yeah. My married man tomorrow and papers never read.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

Oh, but he got you a love.

SPEAKER_06 35:07

Well, well, him did definitely different part from me, but we know say a woman he did want. You know what I mean? So, but it still never worked out. The papers never got through. Never him not even push it in. Because after a while, me did I be a bad man. Sir, what do you? I'm going with one. Like him wants something from me, and never me want something from me. One day I'm gonna call him apologize to him. So we apologize. I'm gonna say, yeah, for all I did be here.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

I think all of that happened too, as we were just talking about, because God wanted you back here.

SPEAKER_06 35:38

And and and God never wanted, you see, there's some people where people can get things, but for me, God has given me.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

There's something that you said earlier that um I try to remind myself of. Um I'm very spiritual. Like very spiritual. I may not be going to church how I used to, I may not be going to church how I want to.

SPEAKER_06 36:02

Why not though?

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Because of a lot of personal reasons. I understand.

SPEAKER_06 36:10

When you say that you know, we're not doing this for us, we're doing it.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

No, no, no, no, absolutely not. I kind of felt like, and I spoke about this Wednesday on my night program on Nationwide. We're talking about like religious trauma. Um, so I kind of think the You were spiritually honed. I think so. I think the church, how I wanted them to have my back, because that was my place of solace. I feel like when I was swaying away from the physical body of the church, I felt like nobody really and truly cared to reach out and say, No man, brother, we are doing right, and for that, I really felt like those of my family. I grew up in that church all of my life.

SPEAKER_06 36:47

That's a different thing now.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

So I feel like for that is like it I kind of swayed away from the physical body of the church. But let me tell you something. There's not a man in where possible my devotion.

SPEAKER_06 36:59

No, no, no, no, no, no. But you see, the thing is, you left God, God never left you.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

I know that. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 37:04

And that's was the that was the thing. So God never ever gonna take him enough for you, and whatever God placed inside of you, it is gonna still be there. So, yes, there are people out there not serving God and still have the spiritual inside because remember, God gives it and they give and never take it back from you. That is true. So he's not gonna take it back from you. You, I know that a lot of people have been spiritually honed. Can I shock you? I did not get no recompense in church, nobody was there for me. But this is when you have a serious relationship with God Himself. Yes, God Himself trained me. Many people see me, and some people probably would have won't take the credit, but yo, this everything would concerning evangelist Dr. Tanisha is on God because if I did a church and I was looking for for this and that and the cushion and the comfort and for give me a word, and me there for go to God, me therefore go to God for myself, me there for see the song, the song that I say, I sought the Lord and He heard and He answered. You have to this so so so I don't really so I tell people be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might. Yes, Joshua, because we're the Joshua generation, we have to understand that when Jesus said I said Joshua, go forth, be strong, Joshua. This is what I remember and I lean on God because most of the time I'm me and God. Yes, everything where people see it's I've been on God, not on a person, not on a church, not on anything. So what you were looking for, you're looking for it at the wrong place. Indeed, indeed, and that's okay because not send them for do what they do or not to, but it's not everybody in the church truly safe or uh what I learned. I used to say, God, why am I love so much? But God said it's a love that I have, where you're easily able to forgive. Because I know the spiritual wounds. A lot of people have been spiritual horn. If I wasn't with my chest never big, yeah, like all coin. Yeah, if God never raised me to be this warrior and this champion, I could have been home too.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Would have been a different situation.

SPEAKER_06 39:14

So I can just tell people relationship is very personal. That is not about a person, what they do or what they not do. You have a relationship with God.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

I've been relearning that, and I've been at a place of solace now, accepting that it is not about a physical church, it's not about anything else about him and I and our personal relationships.

SPEAKER_06 39:38

I still want you to pray and say, God, where's the church? Many of us will just go one church, and and some of us, just like with you said, because a family church, you feel like that was the church. Right. But God did not, probably God allows you to go there, but that's not what where you where you resign. Because not because we need to understand, you know, that when we take on God, the moment we accept Christ, we take on a different lineage, we have a different family, we in a one different DNA. Yes, you know what I mean? Yes. So we come for break some things. So you don't come for drain because your father do this, and you have to do it, or your mother do it, you have to do it. No. So what I I implore people and tell them, pray and ask God which church to go, and then you will get it in a job. Absolutely, man. So so so so am I worried because the Bible says many a time some church make you get uncomfortable and you don't feel comfortable, that don't mean you have to leave because God will teach me, say, your character build right there. What you do, what you do when you don't get what you want. How do you behave? How do you look at things? So God will train me to be in a place where I'm no longer comfortable no more.

SPEAKER_02 40:51

Indeed. I want to just to to rap, you see? Because there's so many layers of your life, you know. But I want to go to just quickly touch on you being an author.

SPEAKER_07 41:04

Yeah.

unknown 41:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

I have sung over yourself, your apostas. How did we reach here from 15, 16 years ago to like whom you are? So we've spoken about all the stories and the things about the book first. What is the book about?

SPEAKER_06 41:19

The book is about my whole life.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 41:22

Oh, when when I have the money, I'm gonna go broke, and God gave me a tragedy, how to pray and how to do deal with things because many a time we don't understand that God concerns about everything of your minuscule thing, but no man.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

How you carry yourself, your wives, your life, everything.

SPEAKER_06 41:43

Yes, and He wants you to get it. So things what I go through, yes, the Lord will just whisper certain things in the ears and say, This is how you do this and this. So when I got saved, for a good three months I'm gonna go road. Like at least three or four. The first time I go outside, I went a man like my madam and run after the man with a stone. I'm gonna say, God, why? Yeah, you allow me for come out today. Every day in my house, me, the people that my wonder if I move. Because me I spend time with God. And the Lord said to me, said I come out today yet. That was the biggest, that was a test, just as just to see. You know, what would you do? You know, so and then we go over that and a lot of things come, but we still stay standing because God.

SPEAKER_02 42:33

And the book is still available now, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:35

On Amazon, Wisdom to Window.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

Wisdom to win the war. So if people want to buy it, they can still buy it.

SPEAKER_06 42:40

They can't go buy it.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

Musically now. But um, are we going to get more music this year?

SPEAKER_06 42:49

This year.

SPEAKER_02 42:50

Alright.

SPEAKER_06 42:50

This year. I do I have I do two music and I I have four songs. Okay. But I released two. Okay. I have Fruit of the Fight with Ryan Davis. That's one of my favorite ones because when I was writing, when I was doing that song, I said, God won't make a same say to speak your life. And I was like, if I never the fight, greatness would come. So every time you go through a fight, there's a fruit for it. And you don't know. So that's why sometimes when I see certain certain things me. Because I know that I go through this because this comes. So these things be an indicator for me.

SPEAKER_07 43:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 43:25

So every time I see a disappointment, I know it's actually an appointment. So God teach me and mold me to see the things as not they are. So me that woman of faith, so I do two this two songs out on every platform.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

But where can they go? How can they find it? Just type in Tanisha Shaw up on YouTube. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 43:47

Um every one of the the the iTunes, everything.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Any streaming platform, just type it and fight, God and time.

SPEAKER_06 43:56

I'm gonna see it come up. Okay, and yeah, this year I wanted to do. It last year, yes, but God wants to do, you know, our life is not our own. And one thing I learned about God that we think we are come out of time, but in the realms of the spirit, there's no time. God can't show up now.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Because this whole podcast coming back, that is exactly what's happening.

SPEAKER_06 44:19

Listen, listen anything where God wants to do. So me wouldn't say, Oh, God do the song. No, no, no, no, no. But gotta say, listen, because one thing I learned about God, I say, God, you know, easy though. If we take ministry, him do it, or he wants to do it. Yes. So him we use music, another one, him use preaching. Another one, he will use the book, it or it it it all makes sense. It's like you want to go to half a tree, you can't take it that way, they can't take it that way. Yes, yes. Yeah, reach a half away.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

But the destination is half a tree.

SPEAKER_06 44:50

So you're reaching other type of people. And I believe that he wanted me into the media and the entertainment world. So this is when we get to the.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

I'm sorry, sandy though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:02

Even though some religious people, because they don't know that we're not dealing with religion. And we're not dealing with with with with with with everybody just they don't want part where I'm dealing with transformation, not tradition. So they think that oh, a Christian not supposed to, oh, we're gonna show the other people that they can do another song, they can do a God song and actually go big, like oh, a regular song you don't do. So oh, you're gonna change in the morning because many Christians feel like they must stand up, but God calls me for the marketplace, or God called me for going and shift the atmosphere. A Christian did this so that's why we have so much of a Christian, because the mind needs to change. We need to get it right. Because if we don't go into entertainment, we're gonna have big sinners and sing to we. And it's gonna infect the children, then the 20th generation, then behind. But if we go in it and stand in it and take dominion and authority, we will have sinners singing God's song.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

Yes, instead of saying and saving souls. And you sometimes have to meet the people with part in the world.

SPEAKER_06 46:10

Listen, the pompete comes because I love pompage. And I said, if I ever share the video for myself, pomper take the mic, I have a body and say, Oh my god, I love palpite. And and I tell people, give me a plant of seed. Yes, and people will see manifest this is Tanisha Shah Sha'alloys. I'm gonna pray for you because God's patient with me. Yes. Why we can't patient with somebody?

SPEAKER_02 46:31

You know what I mean? Yeah, I want to go now to the preaching. Do you have a home church that you're pastored?

SPEAKER_06 46:37

Not yet. Not yet.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

But you do some things on social media.

SPEAKER_06 46:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

Is it every day?

SPEAKER_06 46:42

Every day. What time? Which part we must call? So now today. Today, as I'm speaking, I start a 50-day fasting. So at the 50 days. So at 6 a.m. in the morning and at 12 midnight. Okay. So I pray two times on the live.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

On TikTok.

SPEAKER_06 47:01

On TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

So yeah. So everywhere. So all the platforms. All the platforms.

SPEAKER_06 47:10

6 a.m. 6 a.m. and 12. 12 a.m. 12 midnight. Midnight, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

So those company on social media. Yes. You start him today for 50 days. For 50 days. And you'll explain to us what we're fasting for and things like that.

SPEAKER_06 47:23

I call it the rare both fasting. The rhabot fasting. Where Isaac did there were one point when Isaac got righteous and them fight him and him say him, dig another way.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

And the will and the will and the will and the way.

SPEAKER_06 47:37

Yeah, and there was a season where the reabout where it's more than enough. It can't stop right now. So I call it the reabout season where we're gonna get everything. Them but them did fight, we're gonna get more than enough this season. So I call it a reabout fasting because we're actually um digging and digging another well. So God is really good. And this is where this is one of my weapons fasting. Because the Bible said these kinds don't come. So many people don't understand. They must say, me I pray, me, I pray. No change the more shift because when you mix up the whole life, you fast, you pray. You don't see that. When you start finding somewhere else, you start faithfully laughing and dies, you start to sow seed, and you when the the when the four and the three combine together, you can't miss that. So many people don't know the weapons, so let me keep on praying, praying, praying, praying. Do something prayer is like and and prayer is a process. Many people don't know, so they make the testimony pending and then we give up to the word and on that note.

SPEAKER_02 48:45

I want to end there, but I was telling the people then what they can find you on social trees, whatever type you know, what them can find you.

SPEAKER_06 48:50

Okay, so you will find me on Evangelist um Dr. Tanisha on TikTok, you'll find evangelist Dr. Tanisha on Facebook also. Just put in Tanisha Shaw and you will find me on YouTube everywhere. You will find me and you can connect. And let me tell you something connect not only to me, but to the God that is in me. And when you come, you will find God, you will hear a word because one word can change your whole destiny. That is it, man. In Jesus' name.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

Dr. Shaw, thank you so much. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for unsigned that DM. Thank you for your wealth of knowledge and you know for all that you're doing, winning souls in your own way. Appreciate you always, guys. Big up and oh, so before that, I think we're going to show you something. So let's look on a screen. You see, this is going to be a song with Jan Pamete.

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Hallelujah is faithful.

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Join me in welcoming on stage, sister Tanisha to be praise and worship ladies. Alright guys, thank you so much for watching. Remember, hit the like button, subscribe, share, comment, and so much. Uh until next week, supporting podcast. Go with more. Labox firm, LaBox Done the Right Way. Mark's superstore, helping you build dreams from the ground up. And button block by red.